Re: [PD] showing text or number in gem
Le 19/12/2011 19:25, Jack a écrit : Le 19/12/2011 14:11, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-12-19 02:33, Jack wrote: Good to know that the problem about this 'bogus pointer' comme from the font. definitely not. Ah OK, I thought it was a possibility... It was a possibility..., because [text3d] didn't find the font. ++ Jack ++ Jack Yep, on Linux (I don't know on other OS) you have to specify the path to your vera.ttf (by default) in file path. Gem always needs to find the truetype font in order to be able to render a text. it will look for the default font vera.ttf in all search-paths of Pd, including the the patch's home. ghm,sdft IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7vN+YACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSrtACguKa75BywxsQZTNL+6L/m/O29 ViQAn05hBI0QOnw876rWvrxxi78K+auf =gCoR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] showing text or number in gem
Le 17/12/2011 22:16, Max a écrit : Am 17.12.2011 um 13:39 schrieb Jack: Here an other way to use texture as number. But the Cyrille's solution with texunit and GLSL is simpler for the same result ; error: GEM: Someone sent a bogus pointer to copy2Image ? Hello Max, This error means that an object tried to duplicate a non-existing image. But I don't get this error here on : pd 0.42.6, Gem 0.93.git 3a12873 and Ubuntu 11.04. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] showing text or number in gem
Le 19/12/2011 00:56, Max a écrit : Am 18.12.2011 um 14:32 schrieb Jack: Le 17/12/2011 22:16, Max a écrit : Am 17.12.2011 um 13:39 schrieb Jack: Here an other way to use texture as number. But the Cyrille's solution with texunit and GLSL is simpler for the same result ; error: GEM: Someone sent a bogus pointer to copy2Image This error means that an object tried to duplicate a non-existing image. But I don't get this error here on : pd 0.42.6, Gem 0.93.git 3a12873 and Ubuntu 11.04. hi jack, i get this error (many times) with your patch on GEM: ver: 0.93.3, compiled: Nov 10 2011 running in 0.43.1 ext on OS 10.7 also the font is not found. [text3d]: cannot find font-file '/path to/vera.ttf' if a font file is specified the patch works. m. Hello Max, Good to know that the problem about this 'bogus pointer' comme from the font. Yep, on Linux (I don't know on other OS) you have to specify the path to your vera.ttf (by default) in file path. Me, it is in the /usr/share/fonts/truetype. It is also posible to put this vera.ttf in the same folder than your patch. Good night. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] showing text or number in gem
Le 17/12/2011 14:53, Andy Farnell a écrit : I remembered this fun patch On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:39:59 +0100 Jackj...@rybn.org wrote: Le 17/12/2011 10:39, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, when i have to draw lot's of text, i usually generate letters as texture. using pix_multitexture you can render text the way you want. the drawback is that you have to generate the texture (imagemagick is good for this), Also, images quality is not as good if you change the size of the text. c Le 17/12/2011 10:11, jwind a écrit : hi list, tried to use the text2d-object to show a simple float counter in a gemwin. problem: the window updates too slow if a font-size of e.g. 400 is used. does anyone know a different approach to it? How can i show fast and effective a good readable number on screen? thanks j ,. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello, Here an other way to use texture as number. But the Cyrille's solution with texunit and GLSL is simpler for the same result ;) ++ Jack Very nice ! ;) ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Problem to compile zexy
Hello, After (https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/zexy) : zexy$ svn cleanup zexy$ svn up À la révision 15817. zexy$ ./autogen.sh I get : running autoreconf /usr/bin/autoreconf autoreconf: Entering directory `.' autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I m4 autom4te: cannot create autom4te.cache: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type aclocal: /usr/bin/autom4te failed with exit status: 1 autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 How can i fix this problem ? Thanx for help. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Problem to compile zexy
Le 16/12/2011 20:49, Charles Goyard a écrit : Hi Jack, autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I m4 autom4te: cannot create autom4te.cache: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type Wild guess: maybe manually mkdir m4. Some versions of autoconf don't create the directory. Hello Charles, Thanks for the suggestion, but there was a problem about the owner/group for the whole zexy directory. Now all is working as expected. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gesture recognition
Le 21/11/2011 15:22, Matthias Moos a écrit : Dear PD-List I recently decided to get into gesture recognition for several different performance-art purposes. one of them is for fireshows, where i would like to be able to control events on my computer throug the circling movements of torches. another one needs to be able to recognize simple gestures with the hand like swyping, cyrcling etc. my question: has anyone worked with gesture-recognition? are there specific objects or patches? tracking-wise i would use an infrared-cam or wiimote-ir for the fire, for the hand-gestures maybe a normal webcam which films the hand only, on the side of my body. big thanks for reading and any ideas or suggestions! greets, matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello, I know there is time delay neural network (TDNN) for this purpose. So you can get the ANN externals. I know that it exists other methods but I have never tested them. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem-0.93.3 released
Le 11/11/2011 13:40, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : i'd like to announce the release of Gem-0.93.3 this is the 3rd bugfix release in the 0.93 series. it fixes a major problem withthe 0.92.2 pre-release i announced yesterday. the use of 0.92.2 is discouraged in favour of the shiny new 0.93.3! grab it while it's hot from http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.93.3/ or alternatively from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/files/gem/0.93.3/ like always we have fixed numerous bugs and features, and most likely introduced an equal number of wishlists and showstoppers. difference between 0.93.3 and 0.93.2: - a major trivial bug that caused Pd to shutdown has been fixed. the problem was apparent only on OSX when using Pd-0.43, but could have triggered weird effects on all known systems. noteable differences between 0.93.2 and 0.93.1: availability: - this is the first 0.93 release, that provides binaries for OSX. the downloadable archive contains fat binaries for both ppc and i386 which should run on any OSX since 10.4 functionality: - fixed a crash on 64bit architectures related to SIMD-detection code - fixed other crashes on 64bit architecture when using some pix-effects (ports of Pete's Plugins) - pix_texture now handles repeat/quality of external textures - failing plugins no longer keep other (working) plugins from functioning - improved filmGMERLIN framecount behaviour - made recordQT work again documentation: - a number of typos and inconsistencies in the help patches get happy! fgmadr IOhannes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Seems to work fine here on Ubuntu 11.04, Pd 0.42.6. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] crash with reactivision
Le 09/11/2011 17:17, Max a écrit : this patch freezes Pd. it needs the tuio, and you need to wave around with the ID1 in front of the camera for about 30 seconds. never the less it is actually is the [route] that causes the crash, if you remove that and replace it with a OSC over local udpsend it is stable. m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Max, I tried today reacTIVision with your patch. I didn't get crash or freeze from pd (on Ubuntu 11.04, pd 0.42.6 and reactivision 1.4 compiled from sources). The TUIOclient was downloaded on the reacTIVision website (.zip). I stayed with the fiducial 1 around 1mn in front of my PS3Eye and saw the values from the Y axis changing. Hope it help... ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] /dev/art/#10 in Paris with Pure (AT) and Christophe André (FR) - Friday octobre, 14
For people in Paris during the next friday (tomorrow). In french only... ++ Jack /dev/art/#10 avec Pure (AT) et Christophe André (FR) Rencontres, discussions et échanges entre artistes et développeurs utilisant les nouvelles technologies de programmation (arts numériques, hacking, performances, etc.). Le vendredi 14 octobre / 14h-22h au BlackBoxe. Avec Upgrade! Paris #47 / http://www.incident.net/theupgrade 17 rue de la Chapelle / 75018 Paris Metro ligne 12 / Station Marx Dormoy ou Porte de la Chapelle http://rybn.org/dev/art/ 14h / 19h : Atelier Rep/Rap + /dev/art/ : Venez découvrir ou partager autour du prototypage 3D, venez discuter de vos projets Pure Data, SuperCollider, Arduino ... 19h / 19h30 : Apéro 19h30 / 22h : Présentations - PURE : Heart Chamber Orchestra est une performance audiovisuelle où le duo TERMINALBEACH (Erich Berger + Pure) utilise les pulsations cardiaques de 12 musiciens classiques pour générer la partition d'une composition sonore et visuelle. Cette partition instable est envoyée à chaque musicien sur un terminal informatique, leur permettant de la déchiffrer et de l'interpréter en temps réel. Le projet sera présenté à Rennes dans le cadre du festival Electroni[k], le 14 octobre 2011. - Christophe André Vers un design libre PURE (AT): Dissimulés derrière de nombreux pseudonymes, PURE compose de la musique électronique depuis 1992. Ciselant des univers sombres et oppressants, il crée des pièces sonores hypnotiques, mélanges de compositions électroacoustiques, de synthèse sonore et d'improvisation. Depuis 2003 il co-développe avec Erich Berger le projet Heart Chamber Orchestra, qui a été distingué en 2010 lors des festivals Ars Electronica, FILE Lux et VIDA 13.0. Son dernier album 'Ification' est sorti sur le prolifique label portugais Cronica. http://pure.test.at http://heartchamberorchestra.org/wordpress/ Christophe André : « designer militant ». De double formation (ingénieur et artiste), il nous explique son parcours dès lors qu’il a quitté le monde de l’industrie pour développer d’autres modes de production. Dénonçant les méthodes de conception des objets intégrant le principe d’obsolescence programmée, il réalise aujourd’hui des objets en design libre, afin de se réapproprier les savoir-faire, les partager, et devenir des acteurs responsables du monde que nous façonnons. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Andre ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] /dev/art/#10 in Paris with Pure (AT) and Christophe André (FR) - Friday octobre, 14 (English version)
For people in Paris tomorrow. In english ! ;) ++ Jack _ Workshops at 2 pm _ Conference/démo at 7 pm __ with: PURE Heart Chamber Orchestra CHRISTOPHE ANDRÉ Towards libre design Conference proposed by Blackboxe _ Conferences are hosted within the blackboxe open atelier, in Théâtre de Verre, Paris. http://www.blackboxe.fr __ Blackboxe collective open house programm: _ Friday 14 14h Rep/Rap Workshop /dev/art/ Workshop Discover and share about 3D printing, come and discuss about your own Pure Data, SuperCollider, Arduino ... projects 7 pm PURE: Heart Chamber Orchestra Conference 9 pm CHRISTOPHE ANDRÉ: Towards libre design Conference proposed by Blackboxe _ Sunday 16 6:30 - 7:00 pm Sangue Concert by Pierre Mourles. Triangular exchange between voice, augmented accordion and elctronique manipulations. Thanks to an installation based on real time sound manipulation, Sangue paves its sinuous way between folk, experimental and jazz music. 7:30 - 7:45 pm Fluxus demo http://www.pawfal.org/fluxus by Milovann Yanatchkov. Fluxus is about smoothing out a continuous transitional process, such as a flowing creek, successive graphical changes generated live. _ Blackboxe / Théâtre de Verre 17 rue de la Chapelle, 75018 Paris M° Marx Dormoy _ about: _ Pure Heart Chamber Orchestra http://pure.test.at The Heart Chamber Orchestra is an audiovisual performance consisting of 12 classical trained musicians and the artist duo TERMINALBEACH. Using their heartbeats, the musicians control a computer composition and visualization environment. They read and play a real-time score from laptop screens placed in front of them. « Heart Chamber Orchestra » will be performed in the festival Electroni[k], Rennes, on the 13th october 2011. http://heartchamberorchestra.org/ PURE (AT): PURE has been making electronic music under different monikers since 1992. Working in the darker and heavier domains of the sonic universe he creates hypnotic, soundtrack-like sound pieces using a mix of electro-acoustic composition, sound synthesis, and live electronics. Since 2003 he co-develops and performs the award-winning Heart Chamber Orchestra. His latest album Ification was released on portuguese label Crónica. In 2010 he received his Master degree in Computer Music from the University of Plymouth. http://pure.test.at _ Christophe André Towards a libre design http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Andre Christophe André: born in 1979, is an activist designer. He followed a double training: after having earned his engineering degree, he chose to leave the world of industry to develop other modes of production, in the Ecole Nationale des Beaux Arts of Grenoble. Denouncing the design methods objects which incorporates the principle of planned obsolescence to control and reduce the life objects, forcing in this way the consumption, he now realizes design freedom objects, to reclaim the know-how, share, raising the abstraction that surrounds our objects of every day life, in order that we become responsible actors in the world that we shape. _ _ /dev/art/ Meetings, discussion, sharing ideas between artists and developpers (media art, hacking, performances) http://rybn.org/dev/art/ _ Blackboxe The Blackboxe is an open atelier, on the hackerspace model. Hosted in le Théatre de Verre, Paris. http://blackboxe.fr/ _ Upgrade! Paris The Upgrade! Paris sessions are organized by Incident.net. They are public and monthly. Artists, researchers, architects, theorists present during one hour their recent work. http://incident.net/theupgrade/ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix.multi.crop (Michael Karr)
Le 07/10/2011 17:18, Michael Karr a écrit : Aha, I see. Now this problem, when I try to use your patch with pix_movie it flashes green stroboscopically and repeats the entire video frame in all 9 blocks of the GEM window; and when I change the grid from 3x3 to 1x5, it does crop, but creates space between the individual crops. In gems.multi.crop the video loads fine and crops fine with the 1x5 setting. I have tried to hook up the parameters like you did in your example, but the patch is set up quite differently from multi.crop. How would I go about separating the cropping values in multi.crop from each other so that I can control them dynamically? Thanks, Michael ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Use [pix_film] + [pix_texture] instead of [pix_movie]. Before to go more far i advise you to open each examples in Gem help to understand how Gem works. To understand what are the differences between [pix_film] and [pix_movie] open Gem help. For the problem about [pix_crop], change the values in the long message separate by commas arriving in [translateXYZ]. If you get small black lines between crops, the problem should come from the texture (send repeat 0 or repeat 1 to [pix_texture]). ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Synchronisation fo video and sound
Le 06/10/2011 11:25, Albena Baeva a écrit : Hello List, I'm trying to synchronise film and it's sound in pd. I have several short clips exported as one longer video and separate audio file. I need to be able to start each one of them when I choose, but I loose synchronisation of sound an video. I first try to use this patch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boX0v54SqtU ) - I send to the right inlet of [phasor] the starting point of the video (/) by the total fim length. That worked with one of my video test, but with the real video that I have to use totally lost synchronisation. I send separately the begging point of the video to [counter] and [pix film]. Then I tried to use [phasor] as the play machine for both. But it still doesn't work- the problem this time is the speed of the sound sample is faster and the way the films change is pretty random, but there is synchronisation. I attach part of my second try. I hope that will be enough to see where I' wrong Thanks Albena http://albena.posterous.com http://albena.posterous.com/ runabout.eu http://runabout.eu the-rest-art.blogspot.com http://the-rest-art.blogspot.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list To synchronise movies and sounds, you need to do the same thing presented in the youtube video (with [snapshot~]). Then you need also to know how many frames per second there is in your movie. For example, if your movie has 25 fps and your sound is at 44100 Hz, then you need to divide the value from [snapshot~] by 44100 (to get time in second) and multiply this time by 25 to get the frame that must be reached (you send this value to the right inlet of [pix_film]). Then : [snapshot~] | [/ 44100] | [* 25] | [pix_film] Hope it helps. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gemlist_info of iterated geo
Le 03/10/2011 17:30, ronni montoya a écrit : Hello, im using gemlist_info for getting the positions of my geos. I need to get the positions of a group of iterated geos, for example: repeat 19 translateXYZ -4 0 0 sphere 4 Use [gemlist] instead of [repeat]. but i use gemlist_info with a group of iterated geos i get the position of my last repeated element. Wrong, you get the position of all the spheres. Use [print] instead of number box to see the output of [gemlist_info]. How can i select the geo from which i want to receive the position? See the patch attached. You can use [gemlist_info] or [gemlist_matrix] to get the transformation matrix. ++ Jack thanks R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 717 145 678 343 10; #X msg 37 8 create \, 1; #X obj 37 49 gemwin; #X msg 47 28 destroy; #X obj 194 10 gemhead; #X obj 194 79 until; #X obj 194 215 gemlist_info; #X msg 194 58 19; #X obj 263 308 print; #X obj 194 193 spigot 0; #X obj 194 37 t b a b; #X msg 343 93 0; #X obj 328 125 f; #X obj 356 126 + 1; #X obj 194 100 t a b; #X obj 328 169 ==; #X floatatom 343 152 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 106 8 - 1; #X text 383 152 - 2 (from 0 to 18); #X obj 194 170 sphere 4; #X obj 263 236 unpack f f f; #X obj 194 149 translateXYZ -4 0 0; #X obj 194 128 gemlist; #X obj 332 257 + 4; #X obj 263 287 pack f f f; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 9 0; #X connect 4 0 13 0; #X connect 5 4 19 0; #X connect 6 0 4 0; #X connect 8 0 5 0; #X connect 9 0 6 0; #X connect 9 1 21 1; #X connect 9 2 10 0; #X connect 10 0 11 1; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 11 0 14 0; #X connect 12 0 11 1; #X connect 13 0 21 0; #X connect 13 1 11 0; #X connect 14 0 8 1; #X connect 15 0 14 1; #X connect 18 0 8 0; #X connect 19 0 23 0; #X connect 19 1 23 1; #X connect 19 2 22 0; #X connect 20 0 18 0; #X connect 21 0 20 0; #X connect 22 0 23 2; #X connect 23 0 7 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] AntiDataMining project in ZKM (Karlsruhe) using Pd and Gem
Le 24/09/2011 21:28, Charles Henry a écrit : A very nice project. What do you make of the robot and tts voices in the video? Chuck On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Jackj...@rybn.org wrote: See the video of a trade bot in the panoramic room ;) http://www02.zkm.de/videocast/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=446:rybncatid=115 http://www02.zkm.de/videocast/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=446:rybncatid=115 ++ Jack ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Charles, Here a small description of the project (the voice of the robot comme from MacOSX speach) : On May 6, 2010, around 2:40 p.m., the Dow Jones Industrial Average index fell about 900 points in less than twenty minutes. The loss was estimated at one trillion dollars. Following this event, all transactions made that day between 2:40 and 3 p.m. were canceled in joint agreement. This instantaneous stock market crash, which is now referred to as the “Flash Crash,” was caused by miscalculations carried out by high-frequency trading robots operating on the markets. Despite its virtuality, this crash sheds light upon the actual architecture of finance; its particular temporality and scale that reaches far beyond human physical abilities and perceptions, where robots trigger thousands of orders each second and flood the market with millions of fake information to hide their true investments, a process which is called “quote stuffing.” Engaging finance in its most recent and complex developments, RYBN has undertaken the construction of its own amateur trading bot, designed to invest and speculate on the financial markets. Its decisions are taken with the help of an internal algorithmic intelligence system, and can be influenced by a wide range of external arbitrary parameters. The whole decision system allows the program to foresee the next moves in the markets, while it tries to identify and anticipate the relevant and effective patterns within the financial chaotic oscillations. The performance stops when the robot reaches bankruptcy. You can follow the portfolio and the evolution of the PL realized by the bot on this web site (directly connected to the installation) : http://www.rybn.org/ANTI/ADM8/ The website about AntiDataMining is there : http://www.antidatamining.net/ ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mouse-driven camera
Le 24/09/2011 10:58, topo bot a écrit : Hello, is there any library or abstraction that allows to control the perspective of the camera with the mouse on gem? Do anybody have tried something like this? i would like to have a simple functionality as in the peasycam library for processing. http://mrfeinberg.com/peasycam/#demos thanks Adam ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello, It should not be too hard to make. Simply use this : [gemmouse] | [perspec( | [gemwin] You need to add other object and messages to make it works, but this is the main structure (look at the help file of [gemmouse] and [gemwin]). Good development. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Problem with msgfile in zexy
Hello, I have a problem with [msgfile]. When i send [add2 1 2 3 4( to [msgfile], Pd crash. This on Ubuntu 11.04, Pd 0.42.6 and Zexy 2.2.3. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1
Le 28/08/2011 17:27, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : after a few days of waiting (for you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93.1, the 1st bugfix release for the 0.93 series, has been released today. like always we have fixed numerous bugs and features, and most likely introduced an equal number of wishlists and showstoppers. noteable differences since 0.93.0: functionality bugs: - [pix_film] no longer crashes when sending an auto message to it, while no film is loaded - [pix_film]'s auto message actually does something - [pix_frei0r] no longer crashes when dynamically instantiating plugins documentation: - [pix_frei0r]/[pix_freeframe] help patches now mention how to dynamically load a plugin at runtime (or change the plugin) - [separator] help patch now explains how to only work on special openGL matrices OK, thanx for the clarification about [separator]. ++ Jack binaries are available for w32 (installer zip), for the brave and adventurous there is the source code. binaries for OSX are still not available yet, but we hope to get them online soonish. grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.93.1 alternatively you can get the files from https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem mfgadr IOhannes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0
Le 26/08/2011 18:20, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available for w32 (installer zip), for the brave and adventurous there is the source code. binaries for OSX and not available yet, but we hope to get them online soonish. grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.93.0 alternatively you can get the files from https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem Hello IOhannes and bravo to bring us this new stable release of GEM. highlights == Objects --- frei0r video plugins support - [mesh], [surface3d],... - [separator] now takes arguments to define which stacks to push/pop Can you tell us more about arguments on [separator] ? Thanx. ++ Jack documentation - - numerous bigfixes and improvements extra - - [pix_fiducialtrack] is no more part of Gem (but comes bundled with Gem) - [pix_artoolkit] fiducial tracking using ARToolKit - [pix_drum], [pix_mano]: Jaime Olivier's analysis objects! plugins --- image acquisition is now factored out into plugins this means that you can e.g. easily add new image acquisition methods to the existing [pix_video], [pix_film] and [pix_image] objects - still image loading/saving now uses plugins on all platforms on w32 you can now use ImageMagick and/or QuickTime for loading/saving images, which greatly increases the number of supported formats. you now get programmatic feedback on image loading success... - video acquisition now uses plugins on all platforms uniform way to get or set properties/attributes/controls, like hue, saturation, shutter-speed, pan,... working DV support (on linux) V4L also works with newer kernels (that dropped v4l) support for IIDC support for industrial grade GigE cameras using 3rd party libraries such as PYLON, Halcon or AVT's PvAPI experimental UNICAP support - film acquisition now uses plugins on all platforms (you could use gmerlin on w32 or osx...) - recording (film output) now uses plugins on all platforms support for V4L2 (and V4L) loopback devices, in order to generate a fake live video from your Gem window - use itfor recording, streaming,... settings global local settings files to modify the overall behaviour of Gem you don't like Gem's default framerate, windowsize, font, texture mode,...? change it once and for all internals - - API: this is the first Gem with a public API: a selection of headers that you can use to write your own Gem-plugins build-system - build system: completely switched to a proper autotools - openGL: updated bundled GLEW - source organization: re-organized the entire source tree for hopefully better maintainability lowlights = i need an OSX developer willing to spend some time in getting image acquisition and windowing to work on OSX=10.6 (x86_64) mfga,dsra IOhannes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)
Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ? Thanx for help. ++ Jack Le samedi 02 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, In ubuntu, if I send border 0 to [gemwin], then the window (once created), besides being borderless which is the expected part, also sticks on top and doesn't have a button in the panel on the bottom of the screen as windows usually have. Not so in Windows, where it just creates a borderless window which, a part being borderless, behaves as any other window. Is there a way in Linux to get a gem window that is simply borderless without sticking on top and without having to renounce to the panel button?? thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: borderless window is also always on top (and hasn't an icon)
Hello Pierre, Thanx for the recommandation, but i am looking for a simplest way with Ubuntu Gnome Classic. It would be nice if i could send a message to [gemwin] to disable topmost window when you send 'border 0' message (under Linux). ++ Jack Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 à 13:50 +0200, Pierre Mersadier a écrit : Le jeudi 28 juillet 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Jack a écrit : Is there a simple possibility (hidden) to avoid that the Gem window become the top most window on linux when you send 'border 0' ? Thanx for help. ++ Jack Yo Jack, a simple trick for that is to use fluxbox, with this window manager you can hide your windows decoration with a simple shorcut: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Borderless_windows easy and efficient p. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] route - pack issue
Yep, there is a bug. For a workaround, you can add a [bang( message between [route] and [pack]. ++ Jack Le jeudi 07 juillet 2011 à 17:44 +0100, Joe White a écrit : Hi list, I've been doing some patching with [route] and came across a problem - I'd love it if someone could explain why this happens otherwise I think it's a bug. Basically I'm sending a message with one item to a route object with an argument of the same name. For example: [start ( | [route start] This is connected to a [pack f]. When I bang the start message the route object outputs a bang, which in turn should output the stored number in the pack object. However, this does not happen (which is the problem). If I connect a [t b] after the [route] and before the [pack f] it works. It also works with [f ] instead of [pack f] and a [select] object will correctly bang the pack. I've attached a patch to show this. What seems weird is that it is not a problem with either [route] or [pack f] on their own, but rather only when they are connected. Thanks, Joe ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Testing whether a directory is empty without printing error messages if it is
Le lundi 20 juin 2011 à 18:36 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I'm using [folder_list] to perform the following tasks: - check whether a directory or file exists - get the list of files in a directory (which is an empty list if the directory is empty) However, when the file does not exist or the directory of which I'm getting the list is empty, it prints an error message on the console. The test works, but I need to avoid printing error messages when there's no error to worry about. Is there another way of getting a directory list without printing an error message to the console if the list is empty? Modify the source code ? ++ Jack Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] Gemwin help patch
Hello Nico, In the fullscreen subpatch, use [gemkeyname] instead [keyname] (or use both). Maybe, add a [create, 1( and [0, destroy( in the more viewing, more lighting and more window properties subpatch. Save the patch with all subpatch windows closed (here the FSAA subpatch open itself with the patch). ++ Jack Le dimanche 19 juin 2011 à 17:05 +0200, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit : Hello all, I've seen the same gemwin help patch for many years, and i think it needed an update so i've worked on the version attached. My main concerns when designing it were: - fit to the gem help patch template - remove automatically sended parameters, as for example lighting 1. That was very confusing for beginners: they create the gemwin object, open the help patch, close it and then they can see nothing in their window cause they have no light but lighting activated. - explicit if the message must be send before or after the creation of the gemwin. - use only one gemwin object - limit the number of hidden geos I submit it to the community for critics, what is missing, what should be changed, updated? I have not change much of the text, maybe it needs also some editing. I have drawn a moving object cause i think it can be useful for FSAA demo or frame rate. Many of the design was in discussion with cyrille. I hope that will be useful, Nicolas ___ GEM-dev mailing list gem-...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] export from gem
Hello Max, Open this .zip and tell me if it is working now. I just added the message [color $1 $2 $3( in the abstraction to have the background white with [absCaptureHD myPicture 6000 6000 1 1 1]. Be aware that your saved picture is not anti aliased (maybe use another application - like photoshop or the gimp - to reduce the resolution with interpolation). ++ Jack Le vendredi 17 juin 2011 à 13:02 +0200, Max a écrit : hi jack, i'd be glad if you could have a look: Am 17.06.2011 um 01:38 schrieb Jack: Yes, put a [t a a] or [t a a a a a a ...] after [absCaptureHD] to 'set in order' your scene you want to capture. As Mathieu says, you have to render the scene before you capture it. Tell me if you still have a problem. Send your patch to have a look. ++ Jack Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 à 18:20 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Max wrote: that's a useful abstraction, however in this specific scene it renders black only if i put it right after the gemhead. where's the catch? BTW, you need to have proper priority for this operation, using either [t a a] or a numbered [gemhead] so that [pix_snap] snaps *after* the rendering is done. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (GEM) Getting the z-buffer value of a pixel in a rendered image
Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Jack a écrit : It is possible to use shader to define the z-buffer. What i mean is not z-buffer but depth of a vertex. ++ Jack gl_ModelViewMatrix * gl_Vertex gives the eye coordinate position of each vertex (it is what we need here to define the depth of each vertex). See example attached. You can change this example to apply the depth to alpha channel. ++ Jack Le mercredi 15 juin 2011 à 17:09 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Is there a way in GEM to take a snapshot of a rendered scene (such as with pix_snap) and save the z-buffer information, for example saving it as an extra channel? (e.g. have the z value saved as the alpha channel)? I'm interested in getting an image of the scene as it would appear if it was captured by a depth sensor like a Kinect... How many bits do you expect the z-buffer to be, and how can that possibly fit in any GEM pix structure ? AFAIK, only GridFlow, PDP and iemmatrix are equipped to handle that data. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] export from gem
Hello Max, I have make an abstraction recently (absCaptureHD) to save a scene in high resolution (using pix_writer). Have a look in your recent e-mail. ++ Jack Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 à 15:00 +0200, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, pix_write works, i juste test it. the gemhead connected to pix write should be rendering after rendering the primitive... if you wish higher resolution, you can render in a big frambuffer, and snapshot this frambuffer. c Le 16/06/2011 12:13, Max a écrit : any ideas how to export this other than a screenshot, possibly with a higher resolution? pix_write doesn't see the object at all(!?). m. Am 05.06.2011 um 18:54 schrieb Max: now with 2 axis control sineXY-glsl.zip Am 05.06.2011 um 18:41 schrieb Pedro Lopes: Just tested it, and it looks pretty cool in GEM. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Maxabonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: hi jack, that's great fun, i've modified it a bit: Am 03.06.2011 um 18:06 schrieb Jack: Hello Max, Have a look at this patch and shaders. ++ Jack Le vendredi 03 juin 2011 à 17:21 +0200, Max a écrit : dear list, i've been trying to make a 3d sine wave like on this image: http://lh4.ggpht.com/mihir3445/SBHWmG4KGxI/AxY/I0XfllImW98/%5BUNSET%5D.png in gem, ideally interactive that might become the CI for the PdCon, any help is appreciated. max ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list maxWaves.zip ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (HCI Researcher / MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RE : problem with pdgst
Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 à 12:34 +0200, Antoine Villeret a écrit : hi, gnomevfssrc works fine for me with photojpeg stream i just need to do : [location=location=http://discontrol:discontrol@192.168.1.21/cgi-bin/cmd/system?GET_STREAM( [location http://discontrol:discontrol@192.168.1.21/cgi-bin/cmd/system?GET_STREAM( is the good format for this message. Thanx anyway, I don't know why but it is working today ! ++ Jack | [gnomevfssrc] | [jpegdec] | [ffmpegcolorspace] | [pix_gst2gem] do you have the same error on all locations ? i'm using gnomevfssrc v.10.0.34 cheers a. -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:17:16 +0200 From: Jack j...@rybn.org Subject: [PD] problem with pdgst To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 1308151036.2055.14.camel@jack-laptop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I can play a stream without problem with gstreamer and the command line : $ gst-launch-0.10 gnomevfssrc location=http://... ! qtdemux ! ffdec_h264 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! xvimagesink But using pdgst with : [location http://...( | [gnomevfssrc] | [qtdemux] | [ffdec_h264] | [ffmpegcolorspace] | [pix_gst2pix rgba] It doesn't work. I get in the pd console : verbose( 0):setting property 'location' GEM: Direct Rendering enabled! GEM: GLEW version 1.5.4 GEM: Start rendering info:gst2pix: stream_status 0 gnomevfssrc1 info:gst2pix: stream_status 0 gnomevfssrc1 info:gst2pix: stream_status 1 gnomevfssrc1 info:gst2pix: stream_status 1 gnomevfssrc1 error: [gnomevfssrc]: Impossible d'ouvrir la ressource en lecture. error: [gnomevfssrc]: gstgnomevfssrc.c(868): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstGnomeVFSSrc:gnomevfssrc2: No filename given error: [gnomevfssrc]: Impossible d'ouvrir la ressource en lecture. error: [gnomevfssrc]: gstgnomevfssrc.c(868): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstGnomeVFSSrc:gnomevfssrc2: No filename given I am sure the filename is given with the [location( message. Here my configuration : Pd 0.42.5 GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3952M GEM: compiled: May 1 2011 pdgst $Revision: 0.0 $ (copyleft) IOhannes m zmoelnig @ IEM / KUG compiled on Jun 15 2011 at 16:58:09 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5. I miss something ? Any help would be appreciated. Thanx. ++ Jack -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20110615/fdedb4d6/attachment-0001.pgp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] videoIO compilation error
Thanx Antoine, your method works fine ;) ++ Jack Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 18:37 +0200, Antoine Villeret a écrit : Hi jack, for me, I can change the location property of gnomevfssrc but I have to stop AND bang pdgst before changing the location the bang is necessary to kill the window after stoping the pipeline best antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr http://drii.ensad.fr -- Google lit ce mail... si vous refusez cela, utilisez l'adresse antoine.villeret [at] free.fr pour me contacter 2011/5/30 Jack j...@rybn.org Le lundi 30 mai 2011 à 16:10 +0200, Antoine Villeret a écrit : thanks IOhannes ! concerning pdgst, could it work ? and should i send you some bug report or is it also almost dead ? No, i think it is not dead. It is not perfect but it works fine in most cases. For example, one of the problem i have, i can't load an other video from a stream with the message [location(. ++ Jack regarding filmGMERLIN plugin, i'll try it and thanks for all, you're the man ! cheers antoine -- do it yourself http://antoine.villeret.free.fr http://drii.ensad.fr -- Google lit ce mail... si vous refusez cela, utilisez l'adresse antoine.villeret [at] free.fr pour me contacter 2011/5/30 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ]On 2011-05-30 11:37, Antoine Villeret wrote: hi, humhum ok... I need to read and write video stream from Gem, videoIO appeared to be a good solution when it was alive... well, yes and no. i don't think videoIO was ever in a state that could accomplish this. is there a Gem plugins with which I can read/write HTTP and RTSP streams ? afaic, you should be able to _read_ rtsp/http streams using the gmerlin-avdec backend of [pix_film] (yes, that's [pix_film] rather than [pix_video]; gmerlin-avdec is a generic video decoding framework targeted mostly at video-file playback but which can also do some networking) however, there is currently no direct way to _write_ these streams. i also saw your pdgst which seems to be buggy... buggy is a bit generic. so is there a solution (on Ubuntu 10.4) ? dunno about the inclusion state of gmerlin-avdecoder in ubuntu-10.4; it's definitely in current debian/wheezy, so it should hit ubuntu at some point. anyhow, this is what i would do: - - read the streams using [pix_film] - - write the streams to a pipe using [pix_record] and a v4l2loopback device; you will need the v4l2loopback kernel modules, which are available in ubuntu starting with natty, or directly get them from http://github.com/umlaeute/v4l2loopback/) you will also need a recent enough version of Gem (that is: current SVN) that has support for writing to v4l2-loopbacks in [pix_record] - - send the stream using GStreamer (grabbing the v4l2 loopback source and using whatever technology gstreamer offers to broadcast the stream) (you could also do v4l1 loopback using the vloopback driver and [pix_record]'s v4l1 writing capabilities; however v4l1 is considered dead, so i'd use v4l2) fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG
Re: [PD] export from gem
Yes, put a [t a a] or [t a a a a a a ...] after [absCaptureHD] to 'set in order' your scene you want to capture. As Mathieu says, you have to render the scene before you capture it. Tell me if you still have a problem. Send your patch to have a look. ++ Jack Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 à 18:20 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, Max wrote: that's a useful abstraction, however in this specific scene it renders black only if i put it right after the gemhead. where's the catch? BTW, you need to have proper priority for this operation, using either [t a a] or a numbered [gemhead] so that [pix_snap] snaps *after* the rendering is done. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] problem with pdgst
I can play a stream without problem with gstreamer and the command line : $ gst-launch-0.10 gnomevfssrc location=http://... ! qtdemux ! ffdec_h264 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! xvimagesink But using pdgst with : [location http://...( | [gnomevfssrc] | [qtdemux] | [ffdec_h264] | [ffmpegcolorspace] | [pix_gst2pix rgba] It doesn't work. I get in the pd console : verbose( 0):setting property 'location' GEM: Direct Rendering enabled! GEM: GLEW version 1.5.4 GEM: Start rendering info:gst2pix: stream_status 0 gnomevfssrc1 info:gst2pix: stream_status 0 gnomevfssrc1 info:gst2pix: stream_status 1 gnomevfssrc1 info:gst2pix: stream_status 1 gnomevfssrc1 error: [gnomevfssrc]: Impossible d'ouvrir la ressource en lecture. error: [gnomevfssrc]: gstgnomevfssrc.c(868): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstGnomeVFSSrc:gnomevfssrc2: No filename given error: [gnomevfssrc]: Impossible d'ouvrir la ressource en lecture. error: [gnomevfssrc]: gstgnomevfssrc.c(868): gst_gnome_vfs_src_start (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstGnomeVFSSrc:gnomevfssrc2: No filename given I am sure the filename is given with the [location( message. Here my configuration : Pd 0.42.5 GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3952M GEM: compiled: May 1 2011 pdgst $Revision: 0.0 $ (copyleft) IOhannes m zmoelnig @ IEM / KUG compiled on Jun 15 2011 at 16:58:09 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5. I miss something ? Any help would be appreciated. Thanx. ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Send GEM to Resolume
If Resolum accept video stream, then there is a solution with V4l2 loopback with pdgst for example. There is a lot of information on this list about how to use pdgst. ++ Jack Le vendredi 03 juin 2011 à 19:08 +0200, Roch Jub a écrit : Hey there ! I'm wondering if it's possible to send the content of gemwin to Resolume ... I've looked over internet, only a solution with veejay on linux but I want to stay on windows. From what I read on Resolume flossmanual it's possible to stream somehow ( http://resolume.com/support/manual/index.html#Recording ) . Maybe one of you have a good idea ? cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OCR with Puredata?
Le mercredi 01 juin 2011 à 12:51 -0400, Tedb0t a écrit : Is it just me, or it sounds like it's going to take a lot of preprocessing before you can even think of feeding it to a neural network ? Black/white thresholding and resolution reduction, that's it. I also use grey images and it was working fine. Human vision is made of a lot more layers of neurons than we can hope to deal with in artificial networks. It sure is. Luckily you only need a few to do some basic OCR. You could try a grid of something like 10x10 pixels just to start, which would require 100 input neurons. The lower the resolution, the higher your error rate will be, but you can find good compromises. I was working with a grid of 16x16 pixels and it was OK for me. At what angles should characters be recognised ? Well, that's the beautiful thing about neural nets—it just depends on how you train the net. If you want the net to be able to recognize tilted letters, you can add tilted letters to the training sets. It can affect Yep, if you train your NN with angles, deformations, etc. You should get good results. ++ Jack But making an OCR using ANN is a lot lot more work than using an OCR library. Making a Pd-to-OCR-library interface is less work than making an OCR abstraction library Agreed, strongly. OCR is a really excellent exercise in neural nets (look up Self-Organizing Maps or Kohonen networks), but it's a lot of work. It would be faster by far to set up an interface as Mathieu suggests. However, if you want to go through with it anyway, I'd love to help! It looks like the defacto open ocr lib is Tesseract: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ This would be great to have in Pd. Incidentally, I can't see any reason why Pd would be bad at it, since the ANN external uses the C FANN library, which is likely what any other library would use in the first place. ±tedb0t On Jun 1, 2011, at 11:49 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Jack wrote: You can do this with the use of artificial neural network (for character recognition). There are externals for Pd : http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/ann/ Is it just me, or it sounds like it's going to take a lot of preprocessing before you can even think of feeding it to a neural network ? Human vision is made of a lot more layers of neurons than we can hope to deal with in artificial networks. At what angles should characters be recognised ? Which colour on which colour ? You better settle those things first, so that you can figure out how you can reduce your data beforehand. But making an OCR using ANN is a lot lot more work than using an OCR library. Making a Pd-to-OCR-library interface is less work than making an OCR abstraction library... and it isn't necessarily because Pd would be bad at it (I don't know about that). It's more because it takes a lot of knowledge to make an OCR library from nearly scratch. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cut audio files into very litle pieces
Hello William, [list split 1] and [t l] give error: stack overflow. So the whole song can't be load in [table shuffled]. By replacing this with [list-drip], [list] and [t l] (see patch attached) it is working fine ;) ++ Jack Le mardi 31 mai 2011 à 23:22 -0400, William Brent a écrit : That's a job for [until], [tabread], and [tabwrite]. It's tedious but in the end it's just a lot of copying loops. I just made the attached patch - is that what you want? William On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:06 PM, oskoff lovich noi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list! some help, i need to cut audio files into very small pieces: 50-500 ms and after to create new audio files (adding the small pieces with diferent patern) any idea?? thanks (i fond a way to do it with SOX, the cut part sox infile.wav outfile.wav trim 0 0.01 : newfile : restart ) but i would like to do with pd -- mEtaminaFreeNetRadio http://metaminafnr.hotglue.me/ http://noconventions.mobi/noish ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list sf-slicer.pd Description: application/extension-pd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OCR with Puredata?
Hello, You can do this with the use of artificial neural network (for character recognition). There are externals for Pd : http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/ann/ ++ Jack Le mercredi 01 juin 2011 à 17:09 +0200, Alvin Google a écrit : Hello All . I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with an abstraction or some built in process being able to handle character recognition on any platform. I mostly interested in running a test on Linux Ubuntu. What I would like to do is have PD react to marks or characters being picked up by a webcam. I suppose the web-cam would have to capture an image (pixvideo, piximage) and pass that to an ocr engine and then read a text string from the application to be processed by PD in one way or another. Any help of pointers would be greatly appreciated. Alvin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Problem with 'invalid enumerant' with only gemwin
Hello, I have installed GEM 0.93.SVN rev3949 with Pd 0.42.5. on Ubuntu 10.04. I get 'GL : invalid enumerant' when i use only [gemwin] with [create, 1(. I am working with ATI Radeon HD 5770. Do you know what does it mean ? Thanx. ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] problem in Gem to get properties from PS3Eye Camera
Hello, I have installed GEM 0.93.SVN rev3949 with Pd 0.42.5. on Ubuntu 10.04. I don't get properties from [pix_video], even if i get in the console : [pix_video]: backend #0='v4l2' : v4l2 analog [pix_video]: backend #1='v4l' : v4l analog (i have link the .so with $ ln -s) I missed something ? Thanx for your help. ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem in Gem to get properties from PS3Eye Camera
I can remember, it was last month, i could have properties from my PS3Eye. But it was with Ubuntu 10.10 (can't remember the kernel). ++ Jack Le mardi 24 mai 2011 à 19:01 +0200, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, same for me. when trying with guvcview, it did not offer any parameter modification. so, it's the drivers that have no parameter... i'm using the kernel driver, i don't know if other driver offers more configurations... c Le 24/05/2011 18:30, Jack a écrit : Hello, I have installed GEM 0.93.SVN rev3949 with Pd 0.42.5. on Ubuntu 10.04. I don't get properties from [pix_video], even if i get in the console : [pix_video]: backend #0='v4l2' : v4l2 analog [pix_video]: backend #1='v4l' : v4l analog (i have link the .so with $ ln -s) I missed something ? Thanx for your help. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem in Gem to get properties from PS3Eye Camera
Ok, but I thought it was time the kernel had the driver for PS3Eye. I need to add the module gspca_ov534 ? ++ Jack Le mardi 24 mai 2011 à 19:18 +0200, cyrille henry a écrit : i think i also use to have some parametter, but i did install an other driver. that's what you probably have to do now. c Le 24/05/2011 19:13, Jack a écrit : I can remember, it was last month, i could have properties from my PS3Eye. But it was with Ubuntu 10.10 (can't remember the kernel). ++ Jack Le mardi 24 mai 2011 à 19:01 +0200, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, same for me. when trying with guvcview, it did not offer any parameter modification. so, it's the drivers that have no parameter... i'm using the kernel driver, i don't know if other driver offers more configurations... c Le 24/05/2011 18:30, Jack a écrit : Hello, I have installed GEM 0.93.SVN rev3949 with Pd 0.42.5. on Ubuntu 10.04. I don't get properties from [pix_video], even if i get in the console : [pix_video]: backend #0='v4l2' : v4l2 analog [pix_video]: backend #1='v4l' : v4l analog (i have link the .so with $ ln -s) I missed something ? Thanx for your help. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Problem with 'invalid enumerant' with only gemwin
Le mardi 24 mai 2011 à 19:04 +0200, cyrille henry a écrit :
Le 24/05/2011 18:31, Jack a écrit :
Hello,
I have installed GEM 0.93.SVN rev3949 with Pd 0.42.5. on Ubuntu 10.04.
I get 'GL : invalid enumerant' when i use only [gemwin] with [create,
1(. I am working with ATI Radeon HD 5770.
Do you know what does it mean ?
it mean that ati driver on linux are still a bit crappy!!! ;-)
gem try to set an opengl configuration that the driver don't understand.
i did not find where exactly did this comes from. but things mostly works.
(except hard crash when destroying the opengl windows).
In fact, i have no problem, apart this message ('GL : invalid
enumerant') being repeated every frame.
++
Jack
c
Thanx.
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Re: [PD] problem in Gem to get properties from PS3Eye Camera
OK, thanx. There is a tutorial on this site : http://kaswy.free.fr/?q=node/54 ++ Jack Le mardi 24 mai 2011 à 19:20 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-24 19:13, Jack wrote: I can remember, it was last month, i could have properties from my PS3Eye. But it was with Ubuntu 10.10 (can't remember the kernel). ++ there is a patch for the ov534 module in the wild internet [1], that gives you control over the ps3eye properties (the stock kernel module lacks these) fgmasdr IOhannes [1] http://bear24rw.blogspot.com/2009/11/ps3-eye-driver-patch.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3b6OoACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS70ACfblwuIP3LnlyUP8uugWHn+b3e 3igAoLea56jkwnYHrEr+byefL12a6SFQ =DNaa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Hello Chris, If I have time to do this test the next time i will do it (putting the graphic card on the 4x PCIe bus). Now, it works fine with 2 MacPro (with one graphic card and 2 PS3 Eye on each MacPro) and Ubuntu 10.04. I have installed PureData 0.42.5, last GEM from SVN and ATI driver Catalyst for the Radeon HD 5770 and the acceleration is OK. When i was using 'dialog' message, i can't remember what i got. Thanx for your help and suggestion. I will try to test all your recommandations the next time. One remark : it seems the graphic acceleration is better under Ubuntu than MacOSX. Is there a problem with the driver under MacOSX ? (The same patch worked faster under Ubuntu). ++ Jack Jack I think two of those cards might draw too much power to run at the same time? Also, check the PCIe lane speeds and try running them at 4x or 8x rather than 16x. AS far as getting 4 of the same cam running, it depends on how the driver presents multiple cams to Quicktime. It might show up as one device with four inputs, for example. Use the 'dialog' message to check it out. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Thanx Mathieu, I will give it a try with your tips. I have started to install Ubuntu 10.04 on the Mac Pro and i think i will use this OS. In fact, i am crazy because i have installed two ATI Radeon HD 5770 on this Mac Pro (version 5.1). Each card has 2 Mini Display Ports and 1 DVI port. On the Apple website it is write each graphic card accept a resolution of 2560x1600 px. When i plug 2 TV screen (HDMI and each screen with 1280x768px) on the 2 Mini Display Port on one card (with an adapter Mini Display Port/HDMI), it works fine. But if i use the second card with the same configuration (so 4 TV screen on the 4 Mini Display Port), it seems the computer have not enough power, the Finder quit each 10 second. I use MacOSX.6.6 and this is not the lastest version (the lastest is X.6.7 and maybe it is working with this version but now i have no time to test this config). With Ubuntu, the sytem start to load then the 4 screens stay black. I have to unplug the 2 cables on one graphic card to boot normaly. So i can only use 2 screens. I don't know where is the problem (power ? Apple computers ?). If someone have any experience on this problem, i will be happy to listen him. Now, the solution that i am going to use : 1 Mac Pro with Ubuntu and one graphic card (ATI Radeon HD 5770) 1 PC with Ubuntu and one graphic card (NVidia GT 440 or NVidia GTX 460) ++ Jack Le mercredi 18 mai 2011 à 11:58 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Wed, 18 May 2011, j...@rybn.org wrote: I'm going to work on a Mac Pro with MacOsX.6.7 and the latest stable Pd-extended 0.42.5. I would like to connect four PS3 Eye on this computer and use GEM with pix_video to read these four devices in four instance of Pd (= one camera per instance of pd). I will use Macam driver (or something else ?) Is it easy to get each camera working in the same time on this system ? Do you have experience in this area ? My experience with just one cam on OSX and Pd-extended 42 was that object creation order mattered because each [pix_video] object automatically opens the first available camera AND the device 1 method didn't work. So, to access only the 2nd camera, I had to create two objects and only use the 2nd one. using 4 [pix_video] objects for 4 cameras may work, but they will be assigned by creation order. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Le samedi 21 mai 2011 à 14:07 +0200, zmoel...@iem.at a écrit : Quoting j...@rybn.org: I have installed PureData 0.42.5, last GEM from SVN and ATI driver Catalyst for the Radeon HD 5770 and the acceleration is OK. When i was using 'dialog' message, i can't remember what i got. well, dialog will only give you something meaningfull, if the used backend will provide a dialog-window. read: on w32 and osx, you should get a dialog, whereas on linux you will get none, as the backends (e.g. v4l2) don't know anything about GUI but are rather concentrating on the grabbing. Yep, here i was talking about 'dialog' on MacOSX ;) I remember to have something like 'Macam #0 PS3Eye', 'Macam #1 PS3Eye', etc. with the 'dialog' window in the source section. ++ Jack fmgsadr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] opengl performance on osX ; Re: four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Le samedi 21 mai 2011 à 13:12 +0200, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, from my experience, Gem is 2 times faster on the same computer using ubuntu than osX. thanks to nvidia profiling tools, Nicolas pointed that gem is limited to 50% usage of the GPU. there is certainly a limitation somewhere on osX preventing application to use full performance of the hardware. Amazing ! so, you applications are slower, but the interface will always be smooth... :) This the first time i see things are much easier on Ubuntu than MacOSX (installation, configuration, things working directly). Of course, i am talking about Pd environment, this is not true for all. ++ Jack Cyrille Le 21/05/2011 12:59, j...@rybn.org a écrit : Hello Chris, If I have time to do this test the next time i will do it (putting the graphic card on the 4x PCIe bus). Now, it works fine with 2 MacPro (with one graphic card and 2 PS3 Eye on each MacPro) and Ubuntu 10.04. I have installed PureData 0.42.5, last GEM from SVN and ATI driver Catalyst for the Radeon HD 5770 and the acceleration is OK. When i was using 'dialog' message, i can't remember what i got. Thanx for your help and suggestion. I will try to test all your recommandations the next time. One remark : it seems the graphic acceleration is better under Ubuntu than MacOSX. Is there a problem with the driver under MacOSX ? (The same patch worked faster under Ubuntu). ++ Jack Jack I think two of those cards might draw too much power to run at the same time? Also, check the PCIe lane speeds and try running them at 4x or 8x rather than 16x. AS far as getting 4 of the same cam running, it depends on how the driver presents multiple cams to Quicktime. It might show up as one device with four inputs, for example. Use the 'dialog' message to check it out. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jackj...@rybn.org wrote: Thanx Mathieu, I will give it a try with your tips. I have started to install Ubuntu 10.04 on the Mac Pro and i think i will use this OS. In fact, i am crazy because i have installed two ATI Radeon HD 5770 on this Mac Pro (version 5.1). Each card has 2 Mini Display Ports and 1 DVI port. On the Apple website it is write each graphic card accept a resolution of 2560x1600 px. When i plug 2 TV screen (HDMI and each screen with 1280x768px) on the 2 Mini Display Port on one card (with an adapter Mini Display Port/HDMI), it works fine. But if i use the second card with the same configuration (so 4 TV screen on the 4 Mini Display Port), it seems the computer have not enough power, the Finder quit each 10 second. I use MacOSX.6.6 and this is not the lastest version (the lastest is X.6.7 and maybe it is working with this version but now i have no time to test this config). With Ubuntu, the sytem start to load then the 4 screens stay black. I have to unplug the 2 cables on one graphic card to boot normaly. So i can only use 2 screens. I don't know where is the problem (power ? Apple computers ?). If someone have any experience on this problem, i will be happy to listen him. Now, the solution that i am going to use : 1 Mac Pro with Ubuntu and one graphic card (ATI Radeon HD 5770) 1 PC with Ubuntu and one graphic card (NVidia GT 440 or NVidia GTX 460) ++ Jack Le mercredi 18 mai 2011 à 11:58 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Wed, 18 May 2011, j...@rybn.org wrote: I'm going to work on a Mac Pro with MacOsX.6.7 and the latest stable Pd-extended 0.42.5. I would like to connect four PS3 Eye on this computer and use GEM with pix_video to read these four devices in four instance of Pd (= one camera per instance of pd). I will use Macam driver (or something else ?) Is it easy to get each camera working in the same time on this system ? Do you have experience in this area ? My experience with just one cam on OSX and Pd-extended 42 was that object creation order mattered because each [pix_video] object automatically opens the first available camera AND the device 1 method didn't work. So, to access only the 2nd camera, I had to create two objects and only use the 2nd one. using 4 [pix_video] objects for 4 cameras may work, but they will be assigned by creation order. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http
Re: [PD] opengl performance on osX ; Re: four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Le samedi 21 mai 2011 à 12:06 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Sat, 21 May 2011, cyrille henry wrote: from my experience, Gem is 2 times faster on the same computer using ubuntu than osX. thanks to nvidia profiling tools, Nicolas pointed that gem is limited to 50% usage of the GPU. there is certainly a limitation somewhere on osX preventing application to use full performance of the hardware. so, you applications are slower, but the interface will always be smooth... There's a setting in Gnome/Ubuntu for choosing no effects, normal effects, extra effects. This may make a difference. What kind of performance difference do you get when you change that setting ? It might explain part of what happens on OSX, perhaps (where, afaik, you don't have such a setting, and effects level is somewhere between ubuntu's normal and extra levels). Yep, of course, you have to choose 'no effect' in 'Appearance' to get best frame rate. MacOSX should have this option too. ++ Jack ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Thanx Mathieu, I will give it a try with your tips. I have started to install Ubuntu 10.04 on the Mac Pro and i think i will use this OS. In fact, i am crazy because i have installed two ATI Radeon HD 5770 on this Mac Pro (version 5.1). Each card has 2 Mini Display Ports and 1 DVI port. On the Apple website it is write each graphic card accept a resolution of 2560x1600 px. When i plug 2 TV screen (HDMI and each screen with 1280x768px) on the 2 Mini Display Port on one card (with an adapter Mini Display Port/HDMI), it works fine. But if i use the second card with the same configuration (so 4 TV screen on the 4 Mini Display Port), it seems the computer have not enough power, the Finder quit each 10 second. I use MacOSX.6.6 and this is not the lastest version (the lastest is X.6.7 and maybe it is working with this version but now i have no time to test this config). With Ubuntu, the sytem start to load then the 4 screens stay black. I have to unplug the 2 cables on one graphic card to boot normaly. So i can only use 2 screens. I don't know where is the problem (power ? Apple computers ?). If someone have any experience on this problem, i will be happy to listen him. Now, the solution that i am going to use : 1 Mac Pro with Ubuntu and one graphic card (ATI Radeon HD 5770) 1 PC with Ubuntu and one graphic card (NVidia GT 440 or NVidia GTX 460) ++ Jack Le mercredi 18 mai 2011 à 11:58 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Wed, 18 May 2011, j...@rybn.org wrote: I'm going to work on a Mac Pro with MacOsX.6.7 and the latest stable Pd-extended 0.42.5. I would like to connect four PS3 Eye on this computer and use GEM with pix_video to read these four devices in four instance of Pd (= one camera per instance of pd). I will use Macam driver (or something else ?) Is it easy to get each camera working in the same time on this system ? Do you have experience in this area ? My experience with just one cam on OSX and Pd-extended 42 was that object creation order mattered because each [pix_video] object automatically opens the first available camera AND the device 1 method didn't work. So, to access only the 2nd camera, I had to create two objects and only use the 2nd one. using 4 [pix_video] objects for 4 cameras may work, but they will be assigned by creation order. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Hello, I'm going to work on a Mac Pro with MacOsX.6.7 and the latest stable Pd-extended 0.42.5. I would like to connect four PS3 Eye on this computer and use GEM with pix_video to read these four devices in four instance of Pd (= one camera per instance of pd). I will use Macam driver (or something else ?) Is it easy to get each camera working in the same time on this system ? Do you have experience in this area ? Thanx for help. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] four PS3 Eye on Mac Pro and Pd-ext and GEM
Thanx Peter and IOhannes for your answer. it's not very reassuring... I test this configuration today. I will keep you informed. And if it is not working, i will switch to Linux. About Linux (Ubuntu), is there someone who know if the graphics cards (2 ATI Radeon HD 5770) work fine under this OS ? ++ Jack -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-05-18 13:12, j...@rybn.org wrote: Hello, I'm going to work on a Mac Pro with MacOsX.6.7 and the latest stable Pd-extended 0.42.5. I would like to connect four PS3 Eye on this computer and use GEM with pix_video to read these four devices in four instance of Pd (= one camera per instance of pd). I will use Macam driver (or something else ?) Is it easy to get each camera working in the same time on this system ? Do you have experience in this area ? i'm successfully using 4 PS3 cam's in parallel within one Pd/Gem instance on linux. however, i heard rumours that there are problems on OSX. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3TuPcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQ2AQCdGTPrjL5Y0EChpjIPOmvey66D FFkAniZv13/r5uol90ADsOsW7wshaaME =Hs9Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] very low cost computer
This project could interest some people on this list : http://www.raspberrypi.org/ Specification : * 700MHz ARM11 * 128MB of SDRAM * OpenGL ES 2.0 * 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode * Composite and HDMI video output * USB 2.0 * SD/MMC/SDIO memory card slot * General-purpose I/O * Open software (Ubuntu, Iceweasel, KOffice, Python) The price is around 25$. ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] [gemdead]
Something like this could help. ++ Jack Le samedi 30 avril 2011 à 12:06 +0100, ALAN BROOKER a écrit : Hey Ant, This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see for gem' but haven't perfected it yet. The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer to pix object then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing this tho The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips here too! All the best Al On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC. Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube] as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so far Ant On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: from irc #dataflow : hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as [cube] and [sphere] in gridflow? In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from using OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be doing much that is related to it, therefore : [gemhead] | [b] | [gemdead] | [cube] will really draw the cube as if you had done : [gemhead] | [cube] I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find exceptions, please tell me. But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as long as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the buffer to the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the time to draw. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Gridflow-dev mailing list gridflow-...@lists.artengine.ca http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev gem_see.pd Description: application/extension-pd gem_see-help.pd Description: application/extension-pd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Toggle Status
Or you can use [value] instead of [float] and its cold inlet. ++ Jack Le samedi 23 avril 2011 à 14:13 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : banging most GUI objects will get their values. But with toggle, it changes it, so you would just need to connect the toggle to the right inlet of [float], and bang the left inlet when you want to know the toggle's state. .hc On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Saul wrote: Hi All, I'm sure this has been asked many times, but nothing comes up in an archive search. I'm using a multiple toggles to activate each element of a sequence. Is it possible to interrogate the status of a toggle or in fact any gui object. Thanks for any help, /S ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem clipping planes
Hello Tim, You have to change the values in the perspec message to change the frustum volume. Try something like [perspec -0.5 0.5 -0.5 0.5 0.5 20( - instead of [perspec -1 1 -1 1 1 20( - and reduce these values if you want. ++ Jack Le lundi 18 avril 2011 à 01:09 +0200, tim vets a écrit : Hi all, How do I move the Z clipping plane closer to the camera so that I can zoom in on a cube without the closest face of it disappearing? I've been trying with 'view' and 'perspec' but was unable to get the result I need... Thanks, Tim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd on symbian^3
Hello list, Is there someone who succeeded to install pd or pda on Symbian^3 ? Thanx. ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Looking for partconv darwin for mac
Hey, I tried both import bsaylor and bsaylor/partconv~ and neither works, except that one strange thing happens: after I use the import object in one patch, then I open the convolve test patch that came with the partvonv package and it looks like the parkconv~ object is working, because its no longer surrounded by a red dotted line, but as soon as I try to access the object, PD crashes. Any idea what is going on here? Thanks, Jack On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Mitchell Turner mmturner2...@gmail.com wrote: Jack, I've always had to use the import object with the argument bsaylor to get partconv~ to work. [import bsaylor] That seems to do the trick for me. Hope this helps, Mitch On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:09 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:30:25 + From: William Turner Duffin willai...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Looking for partconv darwin for mac To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: bay133-w12ad5b794c6b8fbb96f459b6...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Try calling it bsaylor/partconv~ instead of partconv~ Working is going on to create a toolkit for making?impulse responses here:http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-4189-1.html ...though as Chris says it might not be the way to do what you're looking to do. Perhaps checkout the fftease collection http://www.somasa.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/?thresher~; in particular. _Will Message: 3 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:54:05 -0400 From: Jack Kalish j...@jackkalish.com Subject: Re: [PD] Looking for partconv darwin for mac To: chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: AANLkTimTqBUxAL+L33RNo_Q+5X-YxehQ0bMJofyerz=9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks. What is the extended? If you meant the extended version of PD, I have that, and partconv is not available. I get this error message when I try to use it: partconv~ ir 2048 ... couldn't create I will look into impulse response. Is there an object in PD for creating impulse responses? -jack On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:14 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote: I made a Mac version (and wrote a lot of Altivec PPC code) for partconv~ many years ago.? It should be part of extended. I don't think partitioned convolution is really what you want for the sound you describe.? The typical use for partitioned convolution is for reverb and other time based effects that are static.? You would have to make a set of impulse responses artificially and cross fade between them (or make one long IR). On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Jack Kalish j...@jackkalish.com wrote: Hey Y'all, I'm trying to accomplish convolution in PD. I understand there is a partconv external available, but I cannot find the Darwin file to do it on a Mac. Essentially, what I am trying to accomplish is to have a sound that sounds like static/noise, but over time musicality emerges out of the sound. From my understanding, convolution is a good method by which to achieve this effect. But, I am open to other suggestions. Any help would be great! Thanks you! Jack Kalish www.jackkalish.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Looking for partconv darwin for mac
Hey Y'all, I'm trying to accomplish convolution in PD. I understand there is a partconv external available, but I cannot find the Darwin file to do it on a Mac. Essentially, what I am trying to accomplish is to have a sound that sounds like static/noise, but over time musicality emerges out of the sound. From my understanding, convolution is a good method by which to achieve this effect. But, I am open to other suggestions. Any help would be great! Thanks you! Jack Kalish www.jackkalish.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Looking for partconv darwin for mac
Thanks. What is the extended? If you meant the extended version of PD, I have that, and partconv is not available. I get this error message when I try to use it: partconv~ ir 2048 ... couldn't create I will look into impulse response. Is there an object in PD for creating impulse responses? -jack On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:14 PM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote: I made a Mac version (and wrote a lot of Altivec PPC code) for partconv~ many years ago. It should be part of extended. I don't think partitioned convolution is really what you want for the sound you describe. The typical use for partitioned convolution is for reverb and other time based effects that are static. You would have to make a set of impulse responses artificially and cross fade between them (or make one long IR). On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Jack Kalish j...@jackkalish.com wrote: Hey Y'all, I'm trying to accomplish convolution in PD. I understand there is a partconv external available, but I cannot find the Darwin file to do it on a Mac. Essentially, what I am trying to accomplish is to have a sound that sounds like static/noise, but over time musicality emerges out of the sound. From my understanding, convolution is a good method by which to achieve this effect. But, I am open to other suggestions. Any help would be great! Thanks you! Jack Kalish www.jackkalish.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] /dev/art/#8 in Paris with Benjamin Gaulon - Friday March, 18
or people in Paris during the next wednesday evening. In french only... /dev/art/#8 avec Benjamin Gaulon Rencontres, discussions et échanges entre artistes et développeurs utilisant les nouvelles technologies de programmation (arts numériques, hacking, performances, etc.). Le vendredi 18 mars / 19h-23h au BlackBoxe. Avec Upgrade! Paris #42 / http://www.incident.net/theupgrade 17 rue de la Chapelle / 75018 Paris Metro ligne 12 / Station Marx Dormoy ou Porte de la Chapelle http://rybn.org/dev/art/ 19h / 21h : Présentation du travail e Benjamin Gaulon suivie de la démo de certains de ses projets : la RES, Pong Game et LSD (description ci-dessous). 21h / 23h : Pot/apéro suivi de rencontres, discussions et échanges autour des arts numériques, de la performance, du hacking et du développement d'applications et d'installations. Du recyclage de manettes Nintendo en instruments de musique (The Res) à la transformation urbaine du célèbre jeu Pong (de Pong Game™), avec Recyclism, Benjamin Gaulon travaille sur le détournement et le recyclage. Il s’interroge sur le rebus en tant que produit dépossédé de son propriétaire et de sa valeur marchande et, plus largement sur la place de l’objet usé dans notre société de sur-consommation. http://www.recyclism.com http://ewasteworkshop.com http://adw.tumblr.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film generates new image one frame later than it should
Have you try [route gem_state] after your [gemhead 1] ? Tell me if that work. Your patch seems complex, I don't test it. ++ Jack Le mercredi 16 mars 2011 à 00:34 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I'm observing an unexpected behavior that may be a bug, but i'd like to be sure before I file it to the tracker, so please if anybody can show me this is the expected behavior and explain why, or confirm this is a bug, I would be grateful. In the attached patch I have two gemheads; the first one is used just as a trigger (it is connected to a [t b]). The second one (their render order is relevant) is driving a pix_film. What I do in the test patch is basically show the following situation: - while the second gemhead is turned on, I send a frame number to its pix_film, to place it at frame M, which is actually shown - then I turn off the second gemhead - the first gemhead is triggering a message with number N which is sent through a spigot to pix_film's inlet, but the spigot is closed, so pix_film is not receiving the frame number and the last it received was M - then I open that spigot so that pix_film will soon receive the number N triggered by the first gemhead. Immediately, I also turn on the second gemhead which is driving the pix_film. So I would expect the following to happen: at the next frame rendering, first the first gemhead will trigger the number N that will reach pix_film's inlet; then the second gemhead will output the gemlist (for the first time since it has been turned on), causing pix_film to output the new frame N which will show up on the rectangle as soon as it appears. Instead, what I observe is the following: first the first gemhead triggers the number N that reaches pix_film's inlet; then the second gemhead outputs the gemlist, causing the rectangle to appear, but pix_film doesn't output a new image, so the rectangle appears with frame M as its texture. Only at the next frame, pix_film outputs the new image which is drawn on the rectangle. So during one frame when the rectangle turns on, you see a flash of a frame you shouldn't see. The attached patch shows (or I think it shows) that what happens is what I have described, that is, it shows that the order in which gemheads output their gemlists and the numbers are sent are the expected ones, and the unexpected thing is that pix_film outputs the new frame one frame too late. To test the test patch you need a video called video.mov of at least 100 frames (I used M=100 and N=2). Just click on the bang at the top and watch the console. Expected output: . ===: 1 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 1 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 Observed output: . ===: 1 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 1 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 Expected behavior when you bang: You see frame 100, then the screen goes black for a little while then suddenly you see frame 2 Observed behaviour: You see frame 100, then the screen goes black for a little while then you suddenly see frame 100 again for an instant (one frame) then you see frame 2 I cannot reproduce the same problem with only one gemhead. With only one gemhead, if I send pix_film a new number, and immediately turn on the gemhead, as soon as the rectangle appears it already shows the new frame, as I expect. Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_image can't open some tiffs
Have you remove all options when you save your TIFF in LZW with Photoshop ?(For info : I never use LZW compression when I save in TIFF) ++ Jack Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 23:08 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : On 03/15/2011 10:08 PM, chris clepper wrote: Maybe the compression is the problem? I don't think so. I also use LZW from Gimp (almost the only setting I can change in Gimp) and it gives no problem. Unless of course Photoshop's way of compressing using LZW is different from Gimp's way, I don't even know if that is possible. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_film generates new image one frame later than it should
Sorry, should not work. ++ Jack Le mercredi 16 mars 2011 à 01:12 +0100, Jack a écrit : Have you try [route gem_state] after your [gemhead 1] ? Tell me if that work. Your patch seems complex, I don't test it. ++ Jack Le mercredi 16 mars 2011 à 00:34 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I'm observing an unexpected behavior that may be a bug, but i'd like to be sure before I file it to the tracker, so please if anybody can show me this is the expected behavior and explain why, or confirm this is a bug, I would be grateful. In the attached patch I have two gemheads; the first one is used just as a trigger (it is connected to a [t b]). The second one (their render order is relevant) is driving a pix_film. What I do in the test patch is basically show the following situation: - while the second gemhead is turned on, I send a frame number to its pix_film, to place it at frame M, which is actually shown - then I turn off the second gemhead - the first gemhead is triggering a message with number N which is sent through a spigot to pix_film's inlet, but the spigot is closed, so pix_film is not receiving the frame number and the last it received was M - then I open that spigot so that pix_film will soon receive the number N triggered by the first gemhead. Immediately, I also turn on the second gemhead which is driving the pix_film. So I would expect the following to happen: at the next frame rendering, first the first gemhead will trigger the number N that will reach pix_film's inlet; then the second gemhead will output the gemlist (for the first time since it has been turned on), causing pix_film to output the new frame N which will show up on the rectangle as soon as it appears. Instead, what I observe is the following: first the first gemhead triggers the number N that reaches pix_film's inlet; then the second gemhead outputs the gemlist, causing the rectangle to appear, but pix_film doesn't output a new image, so the rectangle appears with frame M as its texture. Only at the next frame, pix_film outputs the new image which is drawn on the rectangle. So during one frame when the rectangle turns on, you see a flash of a frame you shouldn't see. The attached patch shows (or I think it shows) that what happens is what I have described, that is, it shows that the order in which gemheads output their gemlists and the numbers are sent are the expected ones, and the unexpected thing is that pix_film outputs the new frame one frame too late. To test the test patch you need a video called video.mov of at least 100 frames (I used M=100 and N=2). Just click on the bang at the top and watch the console. Expected output: . ===: 1 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 1 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 Observed output: . ===: 1 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 1 0 G1_GEMLIST: bang GH2_FRAME: 2 GH2_GEMLIST: gem_state (pointer) (pointer) GH2_PIX_INFO: 0 0 Expected behavior when you bang: You see frame 100, then the screen goes black for a little while then suddenly you see frame 2 Observed behaviour: You see frame 100, then the screen goes black for a little while then you suddenly see frame 100 again for an instant (one frame) then you see frame 2 I cannot reproduce the same problem with only one gemhead. With only one gemhead, if I send pix_film a new number, and immediately turn on the gemhead, as soon as the rectangle appears it already shows the new frame, as I expect. Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Read/write of raw binary data
Hello Jamie, There was some informations on this list recently about [binfile] from mrpeach. Then use [read(, [writeat( and a list of bytes. Finish by [write(. ++ Jack Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 17:15 +, Jamie Bullock a écrit : Hi all, Does there exist an external for reading and writing raw binary data from file? I tried with with [msgfile], which kind of works, but it doesn't give me an identical file if I read/write e.g. a JPEG. Context: I have a student who works on 'glitching' images and video by editing the files in a text editor and the saving. He'd like to experiment with doing this dynamically in Pd. Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10
It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d] like on MSD objects. The 54_pmpd_wave.pd example doesn't work here. [pmpd] seems to have a problem. Do test and interaction objects work with [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d] masses ? ++ Jack Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 19:04 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, i've made a new pmpd version. There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d. this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible. there is few differences anyway : - few messages get renamed (both on input or output) - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping - there is now a damping associate with each masses - there are more messages to get simulation data I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained. help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn. Cyrille ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10
Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit : Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit : It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d] like on MSD objects. it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it. i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull. Yep :) It is useful because you can see in the console the masses created with their id and links created between two masses with their id. So it is useful to debug. The 54_pmpd_wave.pd example doesn't work here. [pmpd] seems to have a problem. i correct a problem after the official annonce. could you make sur you have the last version (svn update) thanks and tell me if that solve the pb. It seems it doesn't solve the problem because i compiled pmpd today (sources from svn) : $ svn up À la révision 14977. Do test and interaction objects work with [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d] masses ? no from a technical point of view, they could be working. but pmpd* are really MSD* clone. and the philosophies is a bit different. OK. you can very easilly make 100 connections. that should replace interactor objects. I tried to make a segment (like [iSeg]) of several masses in the past but it was not a good solution. I guess the best solution is to test position of each mass and then add force on it. but yes, pmpd have a wider range of interactor shape, so it may be interesting someday to make them work. Would be nice ! ++ Jack ++ c ++ Jack Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 19:04 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, i've made a new pmpd version. There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d. this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible. there is few differences anyway : - few messages get renamed (both on input or output) - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping - there is now a damping associate with each masses - there are more messages to get simulation data I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained. help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn. Cyrille ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10
Ah, good ! ++ Jack Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 15:12 +0100, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit : Le 28/02/11 14:54, Jack a écrit : Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, cyrille henry a écrit : Le 28/02/2011 11:41, Jack a écrit : It would be nice to have a second outlet on [pmpd], [pmpd2d] and [pmpd3d] like on MSD objects. it's not very complex, but i'm really wondering why one would need it. i'll make it if you convince me that it's usefull. Yep :) It is useful because you can see in the console the masses created with their id and links created between two masses with their id. So it is useful to debug. you have a [print( message that prints directly in the console. see help patch :) n signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] unexpected behaviour in [route]
This is not a bug.
Just do something like this to avoid any problem :
[route number number number ...]/[route word word word ...]
++
Jack
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 22:46 +0200, rene beekman a écrit :
I'm preparing some patches for courses that I teach and I noticed
behaviour in [route] that I found unexpected or at least inconsistent.
Attached is a patch that demonstrates the problem.
In short: when mixing types of arguments for [route], the object will
fail to properly route a float if the float is preceded by a symbol
argument.
For example:
[route 12 nobug] will route 12 properly
[route bug 12] will send any incoming 12 to its last ('undefined')
output
This is with Pd Extended 0.42.5 on Mac OS 10.6.6
Is this a bug or am I overlooking something?
Rene
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[PD] tracking multiblob with constant ID
Do you know if there is an external to track multiblob with a constant ID (the ID doesn't change in the time when two or more blobs move). For example, with [pix_multiblob], the ID of the blob is given by its position relative to the lower left corner (or i'm wrong), so it is not good for my application. Thanx. ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tracking multiblob with constant ID
I have also tested with gridflow (based on multiblob.pd) and there is the same problem (no possibility to follow a same blob). ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 14:07 +0100, Jack a écrit : Do you know if there is an external to track multiblob with a constant ID (the ID doesn't change in the time when two or more blobs move). For example, with [pix_multiblob], the ID of the blob is given by its position relative to the lower left corner (or i'm wrong), so it is not good for my application. Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tracking multiblob with constant ID
Thanx Max but i never make an external for Pd from c++. The example with ping-pong balls is what i am looking for. Jaime, your external seems to be what i need, but i am a newbie in compiling stuff. When i enter : $ make i get : make: *** No rule to make target `.pd_linux', needed by `pd_linux'. Stop. How do i fix this error ? Thanx. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 15:42 +0100, Max a écrit : http://cvlab.epfl.ch/research/body/surv/ GPL Licensed. Am 18.02.2011 um 15:23 schrieb Jack: I have also tested with gridflow (based on multiblob.pd) and there is the same problem (no possibility to follow a same blob). ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 14:07 +0100, Jack a écrit : Do you know if there is an external to track multiblob with a constant ID (the ID doesn't change in the time when two or more blobs move). For example, with [pix_multiblob], the ID of the blob is given by its position relative to the lower left corner (or i'm wrong), so it is not good for my application. Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tracking multiblob with constant ID
Yes, i use linux. Thanx it is working now. (it was a mistake from me : i tried with track.pd_linux, omiting the s !) I try now. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 10:04 -0500, Jaime Oliver a écrit : have you tried: make tracks.pd_linux ? J On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Thanx Max but i never make an external for Pd from c++. The example with ping-pong balls is what i am looking for. Jaime, your external seems to be what i need, but i am a newbie in compiling stuff. When i enter : $ make i get : make: *** No rule to make target `.pd_linux', needed by `pd_linux'. Stop. How do i fix this error ? Thanx. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 15:42 +0100, Max a écrit : http://cvlab.epfl.ch/research/body/surv/ GPL Licensed. Am 18.02.2011 um 15:23 schrieb Jack: I have also tested with gridflow (based on multiblob.pd) and there is the same problem (no possibility to follow a same blob). ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 14:07 +0100, Jack a écrit : Do you know if there is an external to track multiblob with a constant ID (the ID doesn't change in the time when two or more blobs move). For example, with [pix_multiblob], the ID of the blob is given by its position relative to the lower left corner (or i'm wrong), so it is not good for my application. Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tracking multiblob with constant ID
Ah, good to know. I will give it a try. Thanx. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 16:11 +0100, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 02/18/2011 02:07 PM, Jack wrote: Do you know if there is an external to track multiblob with a constant ID (the ID doesn't change in the time when two or more blobs move). For example, with [pix_multiblob], the ID of the blob is given by its position relative to the lower left corner (or i'm wrong), so it is not good for my application. there is an abstraction that comes with Gem called [pix_blobtracker] that try to label the blobs (based on a least error algorithm) it uses iemmatrix, but apart from that, no extra externals are involved. gfmadr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tracking multiblob with constant ID
So i tried and it seems to work fine with [pix_multiblob] ! :) No problems to report at this time. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 16:25 +0100, Jack a écrit : Yes, i use linux. Thanx it is working now. (it was a mistake from me : i tried with track.pd_linux, omiting the s !) I try now. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 10:04 -0500, Jaime Oliver a écrit : have you tried: make tracks.pd_linux ? J On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Thanx Max but i never make an external for Pd from c++. The example with ping-pong balls is what i am looking for. Jaime, your external seems to be what i need, but i am a newbie in compiling stuff. When i enter : $ make i get : make: *** No rule to make target `.pd_linux', needed by `pd_linux'. Stop. How do i fix this error ? Thanx. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 15:42 +0100, Max a écrit : http://cvlab.epfl.ch/research/body/surv/ GPL Licensed. Am 18.02.2011 um 15:23 schrieb Jack: I have also tested with gridflow (based on multiblob.pd) and there is the same problem (no possibility to follow a same blob). ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 14:07 +0100, Jack a écrit : Do you know if there is an external to track multiblob with a constant ID (the ID doesn't change in the time when two or more blobs move). For example, with [pix_multiblob], the ID of the blob is given by its position relative to the lower left corner (or i'm wrong), so it is not good for my application. Thanx. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp_vloopback ?
Le lundi 14 février 2011 à 14:27 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-14 14:13, Jack wrote: i have now installed : GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3720M GEM: compiled: Feb 14 2011 good. But i have still nothing when i create [pix_record] : error: [pix_record]: no video backends found! ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. I have remove the directory 'recordQT4l' and all files starting with 'gem_recordQT'. hein? you don't need to remove the recordQT4L directory. current Gem SVN handles multiple record backends just fine. anyhow, even, if you don't have the recordQT4L anymore, this shouldn't be a problem (since you want V4L2) I missed something ? it's the same as with the film- and video- plugins: you need to have the plugins besides your Gem.pd_linux: $ pwd .Gem/src $ ln -s plugins/recordV4L2/.libs/gem_recordV4L2.so . $ Done, but i still have the problem after : $ ln -s plugins/recordV4L2/.libs/gem_recordV4L2.so I get : ln: creating symbolic link `./gem_recordV4L2.so': File exists Any way to fix this problem ? Thanx. ++ Jack should do the trick (if you don't want to install (which i haven't tested, btw) mfgdst IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1ZLacACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQAAgCdHiz7xNAMMN04FM/ZyiDjKncx rIQAoJqGweeN/TtmMWKIz9UlCdTc1QyH =NhXf -END PGP SIGNATURE- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem+v4l2loopback (was Re: pdp_vloopback ?)
Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 19:50 +0100, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 02/18/2011 07:33 PM, Jack wrote: it's the same as with the film- and video- plugins: you need to have the plugins besides your Gem.pd_linux: $ pwd .Gem/src $ ln -s plugins/recordV4L2/.libs/gem_recordV4L2.so . $ Done, but i still have the problem after : $ ln -s plugins/recordV4L2/.libs/gem_recordV4L2.so I get : ln: creating symbolic link `./gem_recordV4L2.so': File exists Any way to fix this problem ? seems like i lost track of where exactly you are stuck. #1 you need a recent version of Gem (you have that, i figure) Yep : GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3720M GEM: compiled: Feb 14 2011 #2 you need to compile the recordV42L plugin - this is usually done automatically when you compile Gem using make It is what i done. - all the plugins do some auoconf checks for required infrastructure (obviously you need a linux system for recordQT4L; it also checks for libV4L, but this should be optional) I'm working with Ubuntu 10.10. - if not all requirements are met, you might end up with an empty (and thus non-working) plugin Here, i don't know... - since i'm using automake, the compiled plugins are a bit hidden; they live (e.g.) in plugins/recordV4L2/.libs/ In this directory, i have : gem_recordV4L2.la gem_recordV4L2.lai gem_recordV4L2.so gem_recordV4L2_la-recordV4L2.o #3 you have to make sure that the plugins end up besides Gem.pd_linx - if you run make install, this should be handled automatically - if you just want to test (and not install), you have to manually copy (or symlink) the files next to your Gem.pd_linux I have already a 'gem_recordV4L2.so' besides 'Gem.pd_linux'. SO: it seems like you already have a file gem_recordV4L2.so besides your Gem.pd_linux; Yes. if this is an old _copy_ remove it, and copy/symlink the new one to this place (i usually do symlinks, but that's because i'm developing and want to have my changes to take immediate effect) if it's a symlink, then you should be fine This was the problem. Now it is working fine, i get : [pix_record]: backend #0='V4L' I need to do like this with all plugins or there is an other method ? then you start Gem (make sure you load the correct .pd_linux file), and create a [pix_record] object. watch the console! it should tell you about the found backends (it managed to activate) Yep, i have always an eye on the console :) Thanx again for your help. ++ Jack watch the stderr (your terminal!) if anything goes wrong; you will see notes about each plugin that is tried; if it fails, you should see an error message there. gfamsr IOhannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] externals tutorial: link error
Try here : http://iem.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/ ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 11:39 -0800, Elliott Slaughter a écrit : I'm getting a link error when following the counter tutorial from the following page: http://pdstatic.iem.at/externals-HOWTO/node4.html 2counter.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _s_float 2C:\Users\Elliott\...\externals\build\Debug\counter.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals I got the first (hello world) example to build and link and run, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. I am definitely linking against pd.lib, because if I stop linking against it, I get about 8 link errors instead of 1. My code is identical to the example except for an added extern C and __declspec(dllexport) to get the counter_setup function to have the correct visibility. I am building with MS Visual Studio 2010 and the Pd 0.42.5 from http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html . I would be happy to provide more details on my code and build system if that would be helpful. Thanks in advance. -- Elliott Slaughter Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to predict the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] externals tutorial: link error
Oups, sorry, i think it was an error concerning the web link to the how to. ++ Jack Le vendredi 18 février 2011 à 15:03 -0500, Martin a écrit : On 18/02/11 02:39 PM, Elliott Slaughter wrote: I'm getting a link error when following the counter tutorial from the following page: http://pdstatic.iem.at/externals-HOWTO/node4.html 2counter.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _s_float 2C:\Users\Elliott\...\externals\build\Debug\counter.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals I think it's because you need to define MSW in the preprocessor defines section so that EXPORT in m_pd.h is replaced by __declspec(dllimport). Otherwise it's just extern and the linker can't find it. Another way to avoid that error is to replace any ocurrence of s_float with gensym(float) but then you'll probably run into more trouble down the line. Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] /dev/art/#7 in Paris with Emmanuelle Gibello - Wednesday february, 23
For people in Paris during the next wednesday evening. In french only... /dev/art/#7 avec Emmanuelle Gibello, Maurin Donneaud et Vincent Roudaut Rencontres, discussions et échanges entre artistes et développeurs utilisant les nouvelles technologies de programmation (arts numériques, hacking, performances, etc.). Le mercredi 23 Février/ 19h-23h au BlackBoxe (salle de cirque) 17 rue de la Chapelle / 75018 Paris Metro ligne 12 / Station Marx Dormoy ou Porte de la Chapelle http://rybn.org/dev/art/ 19h / 21h : Présentation d'Emmanuelle Gibello, Maurin Donneaud et Vincent Roudaut de Je suis l'écho de l'ombre d'une ombre (description ci-dessous). 21h / 23h : Pot/apéro suivi de rencontres, discussions et échanges autour des arts numériques, de la performance, du hacking et du développement d'applications et d'installations. Je suis l'écho de l'ombre d'une ombre, titre générique de pièces écrites et jouées, à l'aide de partitions et d'un chronomètre. Présentation du prototype I depuis l'idée initiale jusqu'à l'évolution vers le prototype II. Cette interface de contrôle a été développée cette année à Montréal (Perte de signal), Amsterdam (STEIM) et Paris (BlackBoxe avec Vincent et Maurin de XYinteraction). La présentation sera suivi d'une performance. Emmanuelle Gibello développe depuis 2001 une pratique qui emprunte à la fois aux arts visuels et à la musique électronique. Très influencée par les nouvelles technologies qu'elle s'approprie en autodidacte, elle interroge les rapports sons, images, paysages sonores et souvenirs. Son travail de composition et de mixage s'effectue à partir de sons enregistrés, naturels et urbains. Cette collection de bruits issus du quotidien et de ses voyages lui permet d'explorer et de manipuler, au moyen d'outils électroniques les différentes strates des sons concrets et synthétiques. A l'instar d'une performance, ses pièces sont exécutées en direct et en public par elle-même ou d'autres interprètes, en multidiffusion spatialisée ou au casque, pour donner une écoute proche de celle du monde réel. Elle crée des micro-chaos dans l'écoute, perturbant l'auditeur avec des sons parasites semblant connus mais ne pouvant être entendus dans le monde réel, comme des signes de « vie ». On a pu entendre son travail au Japon, en Corée, aux Philippines, en Europe, en Amérique du Nord et aussi sur Internet, en solo ou en collaboration : nocinema.org, myownspace.fr, sobralasolas.org. Collaborations : Magali Babin, Dominique Blais, Sévrine Ballon, Caroline Bouissou, Christophe Charles, Yannik Dauby, Mathias Delplanque, DinahBird, Chantal Dumas, Luc Kerléo, Alain Michon, Jocelyn Robert, Diemo Schwarz, Black Sifichi, Björn Eriksson, Kaffe Matthews… http://scenophonie.free.fr/ http://xyinteraction.free.fr/ Avec le soutien du CNC bourse aide à la maquette DICRèAM (2010) et de la DRAC ile de France, bourse d'aide à la création (2010). Benjamin Gaulon sera invité durant le prochain /dev/art/#8. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pdmtl] [PD-announce] four more fractal videos, and reposting the two previous ones
Yep, good. ++ Jack Le jeudi 17 février 2011 à 11:26 +, Claude Heiland-Allen a écrit : On 04/02/11 16:45, j...@rybn.org wrote: (BTW, can you make it so you don't have to copy-paste each time you want a new level to the fractal ? because in my patch, I just have to change a number) Sure it is possible with Lua or something else. Or even plain Pd... Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pdmtl] [PD-announce] four more fractal videos, and reposting the two previous ones
Le mercredi 16 février 2011 à 21:02 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, j...@rybn.org wrote: With [GEMglVertex3f] you can draw the polygon with dynamic patching. You don't need dynamic patching for that. It's easier to use [repeat]. Yep, it is also possible and certainly better (i prefer to use [gemlist] than [repeat] but this is my choice). (But it's even easier to use [gf/gl], really.) I will take a look at gf/gl... (BTW, can you make it so you don't have to copy-paste each time you want a new level to the fractal ? because in my patch, I just have to change a number) Sure it is possible with Lua or something else. Do you mean that it's not possible in Pd ? Well, with dynamic patching, it's possible, but without dynamic patching, could it be ? This is possible, i just saw the Claude's version ! ++ Jack (In my version, it's possible, but it's also a non-recursive.) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp_vloopback ?
Le lundi 14 février 2011 à 09:13 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-14 00:40, Jack wrote: Le samedi 12 février 2011 à 13:51 -0200, Daniel Roviriego a écrit : Hi all! v4l2loopback is working pretty nice! thanks for the awesome work, Iohannes! I did suceed with the v4l2sink element (st-launch videotestsrc ! ffmpegcolorspace ! v4l2sink device=/dev/videox) .Now, the doubts: . Which apps you know can already write to v4l2 devices ? All applications using gstreamer and v4l2sink ? You can find some application using gstreamer here : http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/apps/ . What's the name of the gem object for the v4l2loopback ? There is no such object in GEM but in pdgst. And the name of this object is [v4l2sink]. that is one possibility. I 'm using pd-extended from yesterday auto-build (GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3703 GEM: compiled: Feb 11 2011) and get no valid object for recordV4L2 . For example, you can use [pix_video] with [pix_writer] or [pix_write] or [pix_record]. But what do you want to do exactly ? you should be able to use [pix_record] with v4l2loopback. just do: - - create [pix_record] - - check at the console whether it prints something like [pix_record]: backend #1='V4L2' (this will only happen the first time you create a [pix_record] object for hygienic reasons) Good to know. But i don't have this in the console when i create [pix_record] (even after to have created the gemwin and with a gemhead). GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3578M GEM: compiled: Jan 3 2011 I need an other version of GEM ? ++ Jack - - if so, continue - - set the codec to v4l2 and the output filename to /dev/video1 (or whatever your loopback-device is). something like [codec v4l2, filename /dev/video1, record 1( should do the trick. f gmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1Y5CgACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSdHQCg2fmPe7ofmDlAeA+szG2y01Oq ST8AoOCOi3kUB6Wz0j54T05KsJk/cYuG =V6AK -END PGP SIGNATURE- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp_vloopback ?
Le samedi 12 février 2011 à 13:51 -0200, Daniel Roviriego a écrit : Hi all! v4l2loopback is working pretty nice! thanks for the awesome work, Iohannes! I did suceed with the v4l2sink element (st-launch videotestsrc ! ffmpegcolorspace ! v4l2sink device=/dev/videox) .Now, the doubts: . Which apps you know can already write to v4l2 devices ? All applications using gstreamer and v4l2sink ? You can find some application using gstreamer here : http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/apps/ . What's the name of the gem object for the v4l2loopback ? There is no such object in GEM but in pdgst. And the name of this object is [v4l2sink]. I 'm using pd-extended from yesterday auto-build (GEM: ver: 0.93.SVN rev3703 GEM: compiled: Feb 11 2011) and get no valid object for recordV4L2 . For example, you can use [pix_video] with [pix_writer] or [pix_write] or [pix_record]. But what do you want to do exactly ? Don't know if this helps you ? ++ Jack Thanks in advance! 2011/1/14 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at On 01/14/2011 06:01 PM, benjamin 01xy wrote: oups, I thought it had moved but main site of webcamstudio remains here : http://www.ws4gl.org/ by the way, it worked for me in GEM in both way (grab your gemwin feed pix_video gemwin with webcamstudio) btw, the SVN version of Gem has support for writing to both vloopback (aka v4l(1)-loopback) and v4l2loopback so you can do the gemwin-/dev/video* directly within Gem i very much prefer v4l2loopback because: - you can use gstreamer to write to /dev/video - you can use more apps to read from these pipes (using LIBV4L should be possible for writing as well) - i'm involved in development :-) fgmadr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (16) 99645077 @deedos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video presentation of pure data
Le mardi 08 février 2011 à 13:21 -0300, Jose Luis Santorcuato a écrit : Hi Cyrille, in my blog there are plenty of videos, some better than others, you can download and make a mix if you wish. Pd alone, Pd Processing, Wii, Tracking, Physical interfaces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A94_tHq15uE Hello Jose, Do you use a filter in Pd to clean the raw data from your Arduino with your touch interface ? I have to clean data from a PSOC (with a touch interface), and i really don't know how to process these data (there is a lot of noise !). A clue to find where to dig ? ++ Jack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn9EQg_-31U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p42PU_7F2MM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM4Un76LB90 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSoAb8Y_1Fk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqvQBNSwPfo (my students, the first semester, non hardware develop) http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com (a lot of videos) Feel free Br José 2011/2/8 jurgen noise@gmail.com: I have a keynote presentation that I made while teaching in China, 1 1/2 years ago. Requires adjustment to your needs (take out stuff of mine that is irrelevant to your needs) and then export it as QT movie with manual advance. I could upload it somewhere but as I don't have time to edit it myself you would need to do some work. The keynote file is ~ 2MB, the exported QT movie full size should be ~15MB. Jurgen On 08-Feb-2011, at 1:06 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did you find one? .hc On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:25 AM, cyrille henry wrote: hello, did anyone have made a small video trailer to present pd in a few min? thanks, Cyrille ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pdmtl] [PD-announce] four more fractal videos, and reposting the two previous ones
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, patko wrote: ça passe sur le navigateur et c'est très joli, est-ce que tu as essayé aussi en 3D, en passant sur Gem? Non, en partie parce qu'on peut pas dessiner des polygones auto-intersectants avec Gem/GL, ni aucune autre interface d'OpenGL, d'ailleurs. Avec [gf/gl] c'est nécessairement la même chose : il n'y a simplement pas de mode pour ça dans glBegin. Même les polygones concaves sont pas supportés directement par OpenGL ! It is easy to draw a concave polygon with [polygon] in GEM ! You can also use [GEMglVertex3f] without problem. Pour dessiner les fractales en question avec OpenGL, ça me prend au minimum une tessellation de polygone concave, mais si je me fais une patch pd qui fait une tessellation à partir d'un polygone à 12288 côtés (ou même juste 3072), ça va être très long (et si je veux supporter les auto-intersectants, c'est encore pire) C'est plus facile de faire une Koch complètement à base de triangles collés ensemble, mais pour ça, il faut changer un gros morceau de la patch : la patch calcule présentement un unique contour. Au moins ce sont les mêmes sommets, mais vraiment pas dans le même ordre, et surtout, à chaque étape, ma méthode double le nombre de sommets, au lieu de quadrupler, donc ça s'adapte pas rapidement aux triangles. Et après ça, il faut trouver ce qu'on veut bien faire avec l'axe des z ! Ensuite il faudrait envoyer 4096 ou 1024 triangles à GEM avec des [repeat] et tout, mais avec [gf/gl], c'est plus facile : tu envoies les triangles directement à OpenGL et t'as pas besoin de [repeat]. C'est deux fois moins de patchage. It is easy to build a Koch fractal with GEM. Open the patch join to this message. ++ Jack [#draw_polygon] est moins mauvais que je le pensais originalement ! Pour ce qui est des Julia, oublie-ça, c'est même pas des polygones, et avec la méthode que j'utilise pour les calculer, c'est particulièrement pas imaginable de faire quelque chose de similaire dans GEM. Il faut recommencer du début et je sais pas comment. Ãa dépend aussi de quelle sorte de 3-D tu veux faire : les montagnes en Julia c'est pas pareil comme (et moins compliqué que) les trucs de quaternions. Mais c'est possible de prendre la sortie destinée à [#out window] et faire un grillage de quads dans GEM avec ça. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC___ Pdmtl mailing list pd...@lists.artengine.ca http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdmtl koch.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Pdmtl] [PD-announce] four more fractal videos, and reposting the two previous ones
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, j...@rybn.org wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, patko wrote: Même les polygones concaves sont pas supportés directement par OpenGL ! It is easy to draw a concave polygon with [polygon] in GEM ! Then why is your patch doing it by gluing many small triangles instead of one big 192-sided polygonal contour ? This is an other method to draw Koch fractal. In fact, everything depends of the shape of the polygon. In some case it is possible to draw concave polygon, in other, it is not possible (it is possible to do it anyway with certain methods). I didn't mean simply something that looks like a concave polygon, I mean a method of building a shape that involves drawing a single list of vertices. That's because if one tries to make something 192-sided with a single [polygon], you write [polygon 192] and you have 193 inlets that have to be connected ! With [GEMglVertex3f] you can draw the polygon with dynamic patching. Ok, *some* concave polygons are supported by GEM/GL. For example, in trianglefan mode, you set a centre, and you put triangle vertices all around. This means that the concavities can't go in any direction one could want, because in some directions, triangles will overlap areas that are meant to not be part of the polygon. Yep. Concave polygons that can't be drawn so easily, are the one that contains no single point from which straight lines to all vertices stay completely inside of the polygon. In that case, they have to be broken down in more complicated ways. Those are difficulties that can be completely avoided by using a plain Bresenham rasteriser such as XFillPolygon (from X11) or GridFlow's [#draw_polygon] (two distinct implementations of basically the same idea). It is easy to build a Koch fractal with GEM. Open the patch join to this message. Yeah, indeed one can use [gemlist]. Now who wants to make something that looks 3-D with that ? (with lights...) Don't know ! ;) (BTW, can you make it so you don't have to copy-paste each time you want a new level to the fractal ? because in my patch, I just have to change a number) Sure it is possible with Lua or something else. ++ Jack ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem dolly zoom
Hello Tim, Have a look at this patch. Is it what you asked ? ++ Jack Le jeudi 03 février 2011 à 23:26 +0100, tim vets a écrit : Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how to control the camera lens in Gem. i.e. go from normal view to 'ortho' gradually, or still, change focal length form 18mm to 55mm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_length I've been playing around with 'view', 'perspec' to gemwin, and also tried changing an object's size and distance simulatneously to achieve this, but it seems that the perspective deformation always stays the same... any ideas? thanks Tim ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list cameraLens.pd Description: application/extension-pd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] MSD and rectangular structures like brick
I would like to know if it is possible to build 2D brick system with MSD : I would like to draw rectangles in GEM (the bricks) which can't cross each other (like 'solid' brick). I have good results using several mass aligned on a rigid line to simulate the brick. But i would like to know if there is an other method ? ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_set / pix_gain weirdness
Have a look at this patch... ++ Jack Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 16:53 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette a écrit : Hi, I get some strange behaviour with the attached patch which is basically: [gemhead] | | |[0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 ( | | [pix_set] | | | \ // numbox attached to the second i.e. common inlet | | [pix_gain 1] | [pix_texture] | [rectangle] 1) When I send a new value to pix_gain's inlet, the output is not updated until I re-send the pixel color values to pix_set. 2) If I modify the pix_gain object and change its creation argument (which means the object is recreated), the pix_set seems to be reset as well: the rectangle resets to white, as if the pix_set objet was recreated. I have to re-send the pixel values to pix_set. After doing this, the pixel colors are as expected and the gain is applied correctly Why doesn't the pix_gain update its output when a new value of the gain is applied? Why does pix_set reset when I recreate the pix_gain object? Is all this expected behaviour and I am missing something? thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list test1.pd Description: application/extension-pd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd basic for multimedia workshop at HONF ID
Hey Andreas ! Good Pd workshop at HONF ! ;) ++ Jack Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 16:05 +0700, :a a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all, we're having a pd workshop here at indonesia, hosted by honf the workshop is part of an events called Tropis///Subsonics http://wiki.natural-fiber.com/TropisSubsonics the programming workshop contains 2 session: 1. Workshop Laser Sound Oscillators using Max/MSP by Robin Fox (AU) http://wiki.natural-fiber.com/Robin_Fox http://robinfox.com.au 2. Workshop Pd Basic for Multimedia oleh HONF (ID) http://wiki.natural-fiber.com/HONF http://natural-fiber.com thanks for rybn (FR) who started the whole thing http://wiki.natural-fiber.com/RyBN http://rybn.org/ cheers, :a - - andreas siagian the house of natural fiber [HONF] yogyakarta new media art laboratory jl. wora wari a 80/6 baciro 55252 yogyakarta indonesia p: +628175471005 url: http://natural-fiber.com 01010110111001100100011100 10011001010111011100110010 0101001101101001011101 10011101101001011101101110 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNRntIAAoJECBy/6hFabPkQwUP/RGrVS7na35pF17goTFvgQkz RG3OySZSomY0NxRV9u+FJA1SqrfkFnvzpxATdAhuJ8gbEQ3O1IdyLdi9r+kvYFN3 /gVNhuDFe604oCvp52eOGEFWwfoZKl+OlRgbzoZyG9dLXomIvwkhdhHRm1Dmbth9 eH9L185Z+DbExmKOlfZZ+l6GiJiT3r1LR+VvYIunnshyt2d/LoqPefAYBErlIQZv wOvxG1Xf+CsEJba8hpNI6j7x1RYCJmLaokDZ/6LmKJdLhTJsx0djoyqcosRsYdGo slX1jbqWSWo7B6OiZVCh5iBLzhH66AgC+kEK+RTgaE5iBwwS7vE6hTbCaOHGvKjS nv2qiieayYWVruZD80Sw6AsM1P5aaM5G+aGAQKRee794X983+Y3i1ahqrUGdPfKG aYKUnDgF2oErbOsrtktUvnq28wjoWezYbekpJyTLZnpoZGAlmYT7ZB8F12KMTWoP sfUdeq5LdmlX1ZAp5Y5c7pNirLnmEl5UT/ts0lUNtvCu0G51CjwSsM8Hxrfufs8y 1D6pwoJOF7SM5lpxbwQIynAUs4GSPuS7sRpZ0NhfaWnw+LDmKJBmYnjDrCev25o/ vjRxtPH6QNm+3EFoYGFWjocDDa849y+ZpfVdGhnmhq/vpfRHRcMz7KNJymRtZ3Vv LJdgG3cQMwWXQzT71iBv =64ul -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
This patch doesn't work ? ++ Jack Le dimanche 30 janvier 2011 à 18:01 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Yeah, I think it would be awesome to combine your self.pd with the 50.pure_data_files.pd to make the ultimate version! .hc On Jan 28, 2011, at 11:08 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: There's also doc/manuals/0.intro/50.pure_data_files, but the clone is missing the subpatch. -Jonathan --- On Sat, 1/29/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] pd quine? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de, pd-list List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 4:47 AM On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Here's an attempt (without being totally sure I understand what a quine is...) That's it, precisely ! (almost all quines of other programming languages use standard-output instead, but that's a quite unimportant detail) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list self.pd Description: application/extension-pd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is pdp supposed to work?
Using multiple windows using GEM ? Or using one GEM window per instance of Pd and have many Pd instances ? What was your problem with GEM and gemwins ? ++ Jack Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 17:24 -0500, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : i found some issues with running multiple windows when i was also using GEM pdp_sdl builds sometimes too From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Mathieu Bouchard [ma...@artengine.ca] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:07 PM To: Matteo Sisti Sette Cc: PD-List Subject: Re: [PD] is pdp supposed to work? On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: However, unlike GridFlow, PDP supports only one window per window-class (one for [pdp_glx], one for [pdp_xv], ...) whereas GridFlow supports one window per window-object, so that [#out x11] four times opens four windows. Erratum : I remember having to do something like use one object of each class for the purpose of doing something, but I don't quite remember what it was, and I'm pretty sure it was in 2004 or 2005. The PDP currently on my machine can open multiple [pdp_glx] windows and [pdp_xv] windows. Now that I think of it, it probably was instead something to do with multi-screen video cards that would only allow GL on the first screen. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] is pdp supposed to work?
Yep, i remember a similar problem there is 3-4 years ago. ++ Jack Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 17:53 -0500, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : when using a GEMWIN and a pdp_glx the GEM win would turn black From: Jack [j...@rybn.org] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:47 PM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: Mathieu Bouchard; Matteo Sisti Sette; PD-List Subject: Re: [PD] is pdp supposed to work? Using multiple windows using GEM ? Or using one GEM window per instance of Pd and have many Pd instances ? What was your problem with GEM and gemwins ? ++ Jack Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 à 17:24 -0500, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : i found some issues with running multiple windows when i was also using GEM pdp_sdl builds sometimes too From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Mathieu Bouchard [ma...@artengine.ca] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:07 PM To: Matteo Sisti Sette Cc: PD-List Subject: Re: [PD] is pdp supposed to work? On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: However, unlike GridFlow, PDP supports only one window per window-class (one for [pdp_glx], one for [pdp_xv], ...) whereas GridFlow supports one window per window-object, so that [#out x11] four times opens four windows. Erratum : I remember having to do something like use one object of each class for the purpose of doing something, but I don't quite remember what it was, and I'm pretty sure it was in 2004 or 2005. The PDP currently on my machine can open multiple [pdp_glx] windows and [pdp_xv] windows. Now that I think of it, it probably was instead something to do with multi-screen video cards that would only allow GL on the first screen. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] /dev/art/#6 in Paris - chdh and Sébastien Bourdeauducq - Friday january, 28
For people in Paris during the next friday evening. In french only... /dev/art/#6 avec Sébastien Bourdeauducq et chdh Rencontres, discussions et échanges entre artistes et développeurs utilisant les nouvelles technologies de programmation (arts numériques, hacking, performances, etc.). Le vendredi 28 janvier de 19h à 23h à la Générale Nord-Est 14 avenue Parmentier / 75011 Paris Metro ligne 9 / Station Voltaire 19h / 20h30 : Présentation de la station de VJing interactif Milkymist One par Sébastien Bourdeauducq. La station de VJing interactif Milkymist One est un appareil open hardware permettant de réaliser des performances visuelles mélangeant la danse et des effets abstraits inspirés de MilkDrop. Ce mini-atelier survolera les possibilités du système et montrera comment écrire un patch permettant de programmer l'appareil pour créer de nouveaux effets et de nouvelles interactions. http://www.milkymist.org/mmone.html 20h30 / 21h : Pot/apéro. 21h / 22h : Présentation par chdh de son interface de travail entièrement réalisée sous Pure Data : Vivarium. Cette interface permet le contrôle temps-réel de processus audiovisuels. Elle sera abordée au travers des différentes réalisations du collectif : DVD, performances, et du travail en cours dénommé Egregore. Ces travaux relèvent tous d'une même problématique : l'utilisation dinstruments audiovisuels ayant une composante sonore et une composante vidéo. Ces instruments sont basés sur des algorithmes de modélisation physique qui génèrent des comportements expressifs. Cette rencontre sera orientée en fonction des envies et demandes du public : détails du nouveau projet, explication des patchs pure data, applications des modèles physiques, ... http://sourceforge.net/projects/chdh-vivarium/ http://www.chdh.free.fr/ 22h / 23h : Rencontres, discussions et échanges autour des arts numériques, de la performance, du hacking et du développement d'applications et d'installations. /dev/art/#7 aura lieu le vendredi 25 février au BlackBoxe avec Emmanuelle Gibello. ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_record problem
I don't know why you use [pix_dump] in your patch. And i am not sure what you want to do but i guess you need send your [pix_crop] in different rectangles. Then capture with [pix_snap] the entire gem window, then record this capture with [pix_record]. I strongly recommend you start to see 02.advanced examples in the GEM section to understand how render order and capture work. ++ Jack Le jeudi 20 janvier 2011 à 15:04 +0100, Michael Karr a écrit : Hello all, I am still teaching myself how to get good output from GEM, I am working now with a formant vocoder which feeds values into a video composition of 5 rectangles. It renders the rectangles as I want it to, but when I export it via pix_record, it only saves the top rectangle, and rotated 180 degrees and in slow-motion. So strange... I have tried several objects as an in-between, now I have pix_dump, because I thought it might have to do with the 5 different pix_crops, and needed them to go through one device to the rectangle. So how can I get the entire window to save properly to the disk (I have read in the forums that many people experience problems with the color.. this is not my problem here.) I would like to avoid using screen capture from an external. I have attached the patch as is.. there are two bangs which need to be activated before starting the rendering. Thanks! Michael ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Strange bug between GEM and MSD ?
Hello, All works fine at the beginning. When i send [draw line] to [circle], that change the behavior of the masses and links in MSD. Did you have a similar problem ? ++ Jack signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] /dev/art/#5 in Paris with Jukka Hautamäki - Friday january, 21
English presentation bellow. /dev/art/#5 Rencontres, discussions et échanges entre artistes et développeurs utilisant les nouvelles technologies de programmation (arts numériques, hacking, performances, etc.). [http://www.rybn.org/dev/art/] Le vendredi 21 janvier / 19h-23h au BlackBoxe 17 rue de la Chapelle / 75018 Paris Metro ligne 12 / Station Marx Dormoy ou Porte de la Chapelle /// Noise ambiante abstraite /// 19h / 21h : Présentation de Jukka Hautamäki (FI), suivie d'une performance. Lors de cette rencontre, il présentera la dernière version IOKO (sous Max/MSP) réalisé à Paris lors de sa résidence à la Cité Internationale des Arts (description ci-dessous). 21h / 23h : Pot/apéro suivi de rencontres, discussions et échanges autour des arts numériques, de la performance, du hacking et du développement d'applications et d'installations. Jukka Hautamäki est artiste en nouveaux média basé à Turku/Helsinki, Finlande. Il travaille avec la vidéo, la photographie numérique, les paysages sonores expérimentaux et électroniques. Sous le nom de Ihokas, il essaie de maintenir un style évitant la facilité et les solutions trop communes. Son style de musique s'apparente à de la noise ambiante abstraite tournoyante, perturbée, obscure, difficile d'écoute. La musique d'Ihokas est une combinaison de traitement du son numérique, de sampling live, de synthés DIY et d'improvisation électro-acoustique. J. Hautamäki aime également bidouiller avec l'électronique, Arduino et Max/MSP. Il est le membre fondateur de l'association Kokomys d'électronique expérimentale de Turku. http://ihokas.tumblr.com/ /// English version /// Jukka Hautamäki is media artist living and working in Turku / Helsinki, Finland. He works with video, digital photography, experimental soundscapes and electronics. With Ihokas moniker Hautamäki has always tried to maintain unique kind of style while avoiding most common mainstream solutions. Music style is abstract ambient noise with a twist. Disturbed, obscure, difficult listening. Ihokas live music is combination of digital sound processing, live sampling, DIY synths and electro-acoustic sound improvisation. Hautamäki is also working with DIY electronics, Arduino and MaxMSP. He is founding member of Turku based experimental electronics association Kokomys. He will present the latest version of IOKO MaxMSP patch, developed in Paris during his residency at Cité Internationale des Arts . http://ihokas.tumblr.com/ /dev/art/#6 aura lieu le vendredi 28 janvier à la Générale Nord/Est avec CHDH. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] msd puredyne errors
MSD try to create a link between two succesive masses but it can't. I really don't know why (because the masses are created before). Can you send us your patch ? ++ Jack Le mardi 18 janvier 2011 à 17:47 +, J bz a écrit : Hey Jack, Here is the console output when loading msd2Dadd example: msd: Reset msd: Mass 0 mob 1 152 41 30 msd: Mass 1 mob 1 167 48 29 msd: Mass 2 mob 1 155 41 26 msd: Mass 3 mob 1 104 18 32 msd: Mass 4 mob 1 113 99 85 msd: Mass 5 mob 1 111 66 21 msd: Mass 6 mob 1 166 37 7 msd: Mass 7 mob 1 164 37 10 msd: Mass 8 mob 1 179 14 48 msd: Mass 9 mob 1 125 71 17 msd: Mass 10 mob 1 120 86 53 msd: Mass 11 mob 1 170 97 24 msd: Mass 12 mob 1 118 28 37 msd: Mass 13 mob 1 172 65 59 msd: Mass 14 mob 1 168 59 50 msd: Mass 15 mob 1 106 68 31 msd: Mass 16 mob 1 118 48 78 msd: Mass 17 mob 1 116 3 91 msd: Mass 18 mob 1 102 22 41 msd: Mass 19 mob 1 193 22 50 msd: Mass 20 mob 1 158 41 24 msd: Mass 21 mob 1 124 17 10 msd: Mass 22 mob 1 182 91 99 msd: Mass 23 mob 1 143 4 65 msd: Mass 24 mob 1 183 33 83 msd: Mass 25 mob 1 162 36 10 msd: Mass 26 mob 1 159 77 95 msd: Mass 27 mob 1 102 11 19 msd: Mass 28 mob 1 178 8 37 msd: Mass 29 mob 1 196 15 33 error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found error: msd2D - link : Index not found no findable error yet. (I searched for an error after loading) Also, nothing immediately obviously wrong in any of the 3 folders mentioned. Config in previous email. Best wishes, Julian On 18 January 2011 17:32, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Hmm, strange, here it is '05_msd2Dadd.pd'. And all examples are working fine. Have you some message 'X couldn't create' in the pd console when you open this example ? Maybe a problem during creation of the structure, have a look in [pd structure_creation] and inside [pd masses] and [pd links]. What is your configuration (pd version and OS) ? ++ Jack Le mardi 18 janvier 2011 à 16:52 +, J bz a écrit : Hi all, I'm working on quite an involved patch using the msd library and for some reason it just doesn't work happily on Puredyne. So for example, the '02_msd2Dadd' example when loaded gives a stream of error: msd2D - link : Index not found messages out of the console. This is the same error message I receive when loading my msd.txt file containing all my data. Other examples from msd2D: 1. Works 2. See above 3. Crashes pd 4. As 2 5. As 2 6. Works I have tried the Puredyne mailing list but I ain't getting anything so thought I would try for some help from here. If anyone can help me track this down I will be immensely grateful. Cheers Julian Cheers, Julian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] String manipulation?
Le mercredi 19 janvier 2011 à 00:25 +, Andrew Faraday a écrit : Hey Guys I've been playing around with the [httpget] abstraction, building some music generation patches using html files. Presently using the length of each line in 'words' (pd lists) as an array and playing as a musical phrase, which actually works really well. Any ideas how I could use their length in characters? Hello, You 'drip' your list of 'words' and use [s2l] from Zexy. Then you have a new list with each letter of your word. ++ Jack Or parse away html tags? Or any other nifty data-from-string tricks? I'm considering using [shell] and writing either an irb or bash script to get some of this stuff. But this is a little bit clunky and not particularly portable (cross-platform), so I'm not keen on it as a long-term solution. Any ideas appreciated. Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdp_vloopback ?
Le vendredi 14 janvier 2011 à 18:17 +0100, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 01/14/2011 06:01 PM, benjamin 01xy wrote: oups, I thought it had moved but main site of webcamstudio remains here : http://www.ws4gl.org/ by the way, it worked for me in GEM in both way (grab your gemwin feed pix_video gemwin with webcamstudio) btw, the SVN version of Gem has support for writing to both vloopback (aka v4l(1)-loopback) and v4l2loopback so you can do the gemwin-/dev/video* directly within Gem i very much prefer v4l2loopback because: - you can use gstreamer to write to /dev/video - you can use more apps to read from these pipes (using LIBV4L should be possible for writing as well) - i'm involved in development :-) And i can confirm it is working fine ;) ++ Jack fgmadr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: pdgst : unicast object?
You should see udpsink and udpsrc. ++ Jack Le mercredi 12 janvier 2011 à 12:58 +0100, Adrian Riffo a écrit : Hi list! I'm looking for an object to perform unicast (sending the stream to only one PC). [shout2cast] enable streaming via an icecast server, and i don't know other object to stream. thanks -- adrian riffo 2 rue Vulpian 75013 paris 06.70.12.57.50 09.50.46.96.98 skype : adrian_kostia http://www.myspace.com/arghmusique FBook : adrian kostia riffo duvet -- adrian riffo 2 rue Vulpian 75013 paris 06.70.12.57.50 09.50.46.96.98 skype : adrian_kostia http://www.myspace.com/arghmusique FBook : adrian kostia riffo duvet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to detect if array has changed
Le mardi 28 décembre 2010 à 13:25 +0100, João Pais a écrit : what do you mean with data structures, didn't see any in your patch. It was a suggestion. My patch only show one possibility to achieve what Ico was looking for, without data structure. The use of data structure (array) is another possibility (not so elegant, as i wrote before, the click on data structure is not enough, you still need a metro or a mouse listener. However, it is most elegant graphically ! ;). ++ Jack to the original poster, if it's a control array, it should change when you tell it to. so, jack's first suggestion is the most efficient, before you do a change, see if the written indexes are really different. otherwise there is the hard solution, but that implies you have a constant data flow going on at the same time, it's not the most efficient solution. Look at the patch attached to this mail. I think array in data structures is a most elegant way to do what you are looking for. ++ Thanks all for the reply. Forgot to mention critical part--all this detection should however happen when one is drawing the array by clicking with the mouse onto the array's points and dragging them to new positions. Hence, there is no middleware patch to speak of (other than what array inherently provides). Is there anything that may provide this? if that's what you want to do, then there will always be changes. it's not possible to have the hand precision. unless you use an array that has a vertical step limit. since that's not a feature from array, I did once a data structures abstraction to do it. but I can't find it now. or, if using data strucutres, you can use the click output to know when change is being made, and compare it with an older state. that makes it more efficient, the comparison patch doesn't have to be working at an x rate. actually, that abstraction I did would do the job, then. it's somewhere in my disk, was part of a bigger patch. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] how to detect if array has changed
Just output the value store in the array at the desire index (with [tabread]) before to write the new value (at the same index) and compare this new value with the old with [==]. If the result is false (0) then the array change. You get also the index that changed. Or i miss something ? ++ Jack Le lundi 27 décembre 2010 à 11:44 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : Is there anything in the API that offers ability to detect when an array has been changed and then act upon it? This would be quite useful when using array as a multislider to change values. If there isn't I am proposing providing an invisible send from array whenever it is changed with the name array_name_changed. It could also send exactly which element has changed. Likewise, for the same reason, I would like to provide clipping of the drawn items to the visible area but before I do so, is there a reason one would want to keep outside elements visible as well despite their distracting appearance? Ico ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
