date:20170719

Re: [PD] testing some 0.48.0 GUI updates

2017-07-19 Thread Federico Camara Halac

Hi Dan, thanks!

the browser now works really great, and it is much more intuitive in my
opinion. I noticed that opening a file is now only with Enter/Return, which
helps a lot.
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Re: [PD] One click too many on macOS

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Wilcox

Ah ok, I misunderstood. What I was referring to was *very* buggy behavior such 
as creating a bang with the key binding creates two bangs...

What you're talking about is the fact that macOS does not have "focus follows 
mouse", which it sounds like you are used to. Yes, clicking to focus the window 
is normal. You can hover over an unfocused window and scroll it but not click 
in without the initial focus click.

I'd suggest using CMD+` to cycle the currently active app's windows.


> On Jul 19, 2017, at 6:00 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: Roman Haefeli >
> Subject: Re: [PD] One click too many on macOS
> Date: July 19, 2017 at 5:27:25 PM GMT+2
> To: Pd-List >
> 
> 
> On Mit, 2017-07-19 at 10:49 +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>> Most of the UI error like this are because the first test build from
>> Miller is using the buggy Tk 8.5.9. Please test with Tk 8.4 or with a
>> custom build of something newer.
> 
> I built my own Pd-0.48.0.app and it uses 8.4:
> 
> Tk 8.4.19
> 
> and it still has the same behavior. 
> 
> Since I remember using Pd on macOS, I had to click once for switching
> windows and another time for actually clicking on something. So this
> doesn't seem something new with this release.
> 
> Your post sounds to me as you have a different experience. Can you
> click a bang from a window that has not focus with a single click? 
> 
>> it took me a *long* time to figure out what was going on when I first
>> tried the update years ago and happily through away all the double-
>> bind & key event detection code I added by simply using a newer or
>> older version of Tk.
> 
> Instead of wish8.4, should I try a newer self-built version, too?
> 
> Roman


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Re: [PD] problem with translation : WAS Re: testing some 0.48.0 GUI updates

2017-07-19 Thread cyrille henry

in the po directory.
have a look at the readme.txt
cheers
c

Le 19/07/2017 à 18:26, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :

hi, may I ask where can I find, edit and check out the brazilian portuguese
translation of pd, or add it?

thanks

2017-07-19 11:23 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox >:

I was able to apply the diff, more or less. There was a slight positioning change
after I removed the menu list string, so someone might want to do a quick double
check:
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/703c1f8d5d268ceb74e99d1420906fd1519aca24/po/fr.po

On Jul 19, 2017, at 4:06 PM, cyrille henry > wrote:

hello,

I'm sorry, i don't have time, so here is only a diff.

Since I made small modification of the existing translation, I copy this
mail to the 2 other author of the original translation for verification.

thanks and cheers
c

Le 19/07/2017 à 10:46, Dan Wilcox a écrit :

On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:10 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
> wrote:

Le 17/07/2017 à 12:13, Dan Wilcox a écrit :
[...]

* The translation build system has been updated as it wasn't automatically
refreshing the translation files. For translators, there should be new strings
to add and other to update (see po/README.txt for details). For users, the menu
titles should now be translated for those languages which do so.

I'm updating the french translation file, but I've got a problem with the
line :

msgid "file edit put find media window help"

if I translate this line, the pg GUI will not start.

That line should be removed as it's been replaced by each menu item as a
separate string. The reason why Pd can't start is that the strings in that list
are used to call procedures ala pd_start_file, pd_start_edit, etc. Changing
them means tcl errors early in the startup and nothing seems to happen. I
figured this out the hard way too :)

should I just ignore this line?

Yes. I will check the Tcl to make sure it shouldn't appear in the
translations. That might be an artifact to my earlier experiments.

What is the best process to share this file : forking pd on sourforce git,
changing the file and doing a push request?

Whichever works best for Miller, really. We've been working successfully by
doing small feature Pos via Github as well. Since it's likely a small update,
you could generate a patch and send to pd-list as well. I'm finding GitHub
easiest for my workflow, but use whatever works for you :)

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