Re: Autoloaded to frame 1

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

Great film. On a manual wind camera I always got 28-29
frames from a 24+3 film. The autowind cameras seem to
only give 27 though.

--- dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of course one could use AGFA's HDC + which gives you
 3 free exposures on a 
 24 exposure roll., that means you get 27 exposures
 for the price of 
 24.  One of our local supermarkets sells AGFA HDC+
 100 for $1.99 USD.
 
 DG


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Mattias Klum Pentax

2001-05-19 Thread Bob Keefer




It's been occasionally mentioned here and elsewhere that Klum, 
a nature photographer who does work for National Geographic, shoots with a 
Pentax.

A detailed account of his equipment appears on his web site, 
here:

http://www.klumphotography.com/expedition/equipment.html

It looks a lot like he favors the F-5 for 35mm work. Does use 
a 645n, though, and a 6x7. (His wife seems to have an LX and a PZ-1, though if 
the website is to be believed she has nothing but 645 Pentax lenses for 
them.)



Re: Very OT - Imagine !

2001-05-19 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

IIRC, the traditional US start of summer is Memorial Day
(May 30) and the end is Labor Day (first Monday in
September).  Some time between the early sixties, and the
late seventies the media started calling the Solstices and
equinoxes the beginning of the seasons.  Why?  I don't
know.  My calendar says June 21 is the first day of summer.
In my mind that is wrong, the solstices and equinoxes are
mid-season traditionally.
--Tom


Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 Gerald Cermak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think your weathermen are not the clueless ones here :)
 
 http://encarta.msn.com/find/Concise.asp?ti=05A49000
 
 I don't think so ;)
 http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_170b.html
 
 There is a widespread misconception in this country--which extends, I might
 note, to the makers of most calendars, dictionaries, and encyclopedias--that
 summer officially starts on the day of the summer solstice, June 21 or 22,
 which is the longest day of the year. Americans also believe (1) that there is
 some valid scientific reason for doing it that way, and (2) that everybody in
 the Northern Hemisphere does it that way, and always has.
 
 None of these things is true. So far as I have been able to discover, no
 scientific or governmental body has ever formally declared that summer starts on
 the solstice.
 
 Certainly there is no good scientific reason for doing so. In the Northern
 Hemisphere the period of maximum daylight falls roughly between May 7 and August
 7--in other words, the six weeks before and after the solstice. The period of
 maximum temperature, on the other hand, is June 4 through September 3. (The
 period of max temperature in the mid-latitudes always lags about 25 to 30 days
 behind the period of max daylight, due to the fact that the earth heats up and
 cools off relatively slowly.)
 
 It isn't really clear how the astronomical definition [i.e., summer starts on
 the solstice] got started, says Kevin Trenberth, a climate researcher at the
 University of Illinois in Urbana. Although the sun-earth geometry is clearly
 the origin of the seasons on earth, it has nothing directly to do with
 temperature or weather.
 
 He notes that meteorologists define summer simply as June, July, and August.
 For practical purposes, the meteorological definition is the best one, being
 very closely to the [weather] statistics, he says.
 
 In fact, it appears that June 1 was accepted as the beginning of summer in the
 United States until relatively recently. According to many older reference
 books, ranging from The American Cyclopedia (1883) to Webster's Third New
 International Dictionary (1966), summer in the U.S. comprises the months of
 June, July, and August. Seasons in Britain, for no particularly good reason,
 start a month earlier.
 
 The Oxford English Dictionary, somewhat confusingly, says that spring in Britain
 (and evidently in Ireland) runs from February 1 through April 30, but that
 summer runs from mid-May to mid-August. This leaves the first two weeks in May
 mysteriously unaccounted for, by my reckoning, but that is England for you.
 
 The Irish appear to have opted for May 1 as the starting date of their summer,
 but it was not always thus. I have here an old Irish guidebook (1938) that says
 summer begins the day after the third Saturday in April (Sunday, presumably) and
 ends the day after the first Saturday in October. The May 1 starting date may
 strike Americans as odd, but it sure beats what they were using in 1938.

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Re: Clue re next limited lens

2001-05-19 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Interesting, the same magnification factor between 23 mm and
28 mm, as 31  35, 43  50, and 77  90.  Four lenses?  You
guys want to tell me again that it is a coincidence?
--
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Re: digital cameras

2001-05-19 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Ya, Rob, you are right about that.  Also, most of them
(maybe all) take several seconds to make an exposure.  But,
like just about all electronics today if you can buy it it
is obsolete grin.  I understand the old three pass
scanning backs are being replaced by one pass backs.  That
is an improvement. I have read of a guy that does location
photos with one of these things tethered to a high-end
laptop.  The clouds stream across the images do to their
motion.
--Tom


Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 You forgot to mention too that these backs must be tethered to a host
 computer and most are currently suitable for near static subjects only.


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Re: Drug Dealer Lens?

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

  And yes, I plan to ask the vice squad whether
 they're interested in
  the film.)
 
 Sell them some prints, then sell the negs to the
 dealers.  :)
 
 chris

And don't forget to include your business card and
home address :)

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Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-19 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Actually, I thought rappelling was the english term and
abseiling was french. Abseiling is not in my dictionary,
rappelling is. Nor does my spell checker recognize
abseiling.  I always figured folks who said abseiling were
just being pretentious.
--Tom


petit miam wrote:
 
 When I went abseiling, we used a cliff to climb down.
 I suppose it's harder without something to walk your
 feet down. And it was done as a complete entity. The
 cliff was at the edge of our camp, so there was no
 climbing involved.
 
 I didn't find it very exciting, adventurous, or scary.
 Some people refused to go, but I guess they were just
 scared of heights (or pathetic). It felt pretty safe
 to me. Mind you, this was pre-Cliffhanger, so I didn't
 think about breaking caribiners.
 
 I have never been rappelling, so don't know what the
 difference is. I nearly went sky-diving once, but the
 lessons were on the wrong night.
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Re: Autoloaded to frame 1

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

You can be absolutely sure of getting at least 3 extra
shots. It is clearly written on the packaging. And
none of this silly sunny-bright language.

Jody.

  Of course one could use AGFA's HDC + which gives
 you 3 free exposures on a 
  24 exposure roll., that means you get 27 exposures
 for the price of 
  24.  One of our local supermarkets sells AGFA HDC+
 100 for $1.99 USD.
  
  DG
 
 Sorry, I could not get your point. Is it written on
 the package of the
 film that the user will definitely get 3 free
 exposures or the user is
 supposed to get 3 exposures free of cost but he/she
 may not be sure about
 it?
 
 - Ayash Kanto.


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Re: Clue re next limited lens

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Tom Rittenhouse 
Subject: Re: Clue re next limited lens


 Interesting, the same magnification factor between 23 mm and
 28 mm, as 31  35, 43  50, and 77  90.  Four lenses?  You
 guys want to tell me again that it is a coincidence?

I go with the conspiracy theory on this one.
L8R
Bill

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FA 28-105 filter thread and other things...

2001-05-19 Thread Roland Mabo

Hi all!
In the press release at the russian Penta-club site - it says that the
new FA28-105 f/3,2-4,5 AL (IF) has a filter thread of 58mm. According to
a swedish store, it really has 62mm. Now, which one is it?

The 28-105 is now available in Sweden, it cost more or less the same as
the original price for the Pentax(Tamron) FA28-105 f/4-5,6 Silver, which
now sells at a discount price here.

MZ-S is to go on sale here late july, at a list price of 12 500 SEK
(body only), 18 500 with the FA24-90 lens, which in itself cost 7400 SEK
(more or less the same price as for the new Nikon AF 24-90). As a
comparision, Minolta Dynax 7 sells for around 8000 SEK here, while Nikon
F100 is around 13-14 000 SEK.

Btw, the swedish stores now also list the FA 31 f/1,8...

Best wishes to you all,
--
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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread David A. Mann

Tiger Moses writes:

 I got them back and said, darn, which I know which was which.  Then I
 thought about the black slides!  I tore one open and look at the edge and it
 tell me Fuji RDPII or Kodak EB100, ect.   So if you ever submit mixed rolls
 like I did, remember this easy trick.

 My lab gives me the leader back unmounted so I never suffered from that 
problem :)

 Now, for those in the know is, is RDP II Provia or Astia?

 Someone else has already answered this, but I wonder if there is an RIP?  
Would that be RG25? :)

Cheers,


- Dave

David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec)
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Re: Color Medium Format Print Film

2001-05-19 Thread David A. Mann

Tom C. writes:

 I haven't used the Konica or Agfa, but Reala would be my #1 pick.  I have
 never ever been disappointed by it.

 I'll second the Reala suggestion.  I don't use it much in 120 but it's a nice 
film for landscapes.

 I've also used Agfa Portrait 160 but the colours turned out a little more 
pastel.  Quite pleasing to me (especially with the low contrast) but it might 
not be to your tastes :)

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Just to please Aaron...

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

It's people like you that ensure that some of us can't
even get one LX :) Shame on you.

--- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 ...I bought my third LX!


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Re[2]: What Do You Carry

2001-05-19 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

'abseil' is the word used in British English, even by gritty,
unpretentious mountaineering types. We also recognise 'rappel',
which is also from French so probably no more and no less pretentious.
On the one occasion when I foolishly volunteered for this activity I
abseiled down the side of a very tall building; this meant that I had
to 'walk' down it. If there had been any hostages to rescue I'm sure
I'd have been allowed to bounce like the SAS, but we had strict
instructions from the organisers not to do that. Besides, there were
no windows to swing through, and I'd have looked pretty foolish trying
to swing through a brick wall.

---

 Bob  

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Art is a form of play, not to be taken seriously - Plato

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 7:41:19 AM, you wrote:

 Actually, I thought rappelling was the english term and
 abseiling was french. Abseiling is not in my dictionary,
 rappelling is. Nor does my spell checker recognize
 abseiling.  I always figured folks who said abseiling were
 just being pretentious.
 --Tom


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Re: Re[2]: Very OT - Imagine !

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

St. John the baptist was born on 24th June. I know
because it is also my birthday. Usually horribly cold
and wet in NZ (mid-winter). But perhaps his Day is
on a slightly different day.

Jody.

 The summer solstice has also been known as
 midsummer (and, IIRC,
 St. John's Day) for a very, very long time.


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Re: Re[2]: Very OT - Imagine !

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

It begins on 1st December here. I wondered what that
US thing of saying 21st June was the first day of
summer was about. I always think of the seasons as
always starting on the first day of a month. I don't
know that any NZers think differently, and that is
what you get taught at school.

Jody.


 There is a widespread misconception in this
 country--which extends, I might
 note, to the makers of most calendars, dictionaries,
 and encyclopedias--that
 summer officially starts on the day of the summer
 solstice, June 21 or 22,
 which is the longest day of the year

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Re[6]: Very OT - Imagine !

2001-05-19 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

 Bob, you are forgetting about air conditioners, which suck up a
 tremendous amount of electricity. I suppose in cold and damp
 England, you wouldn't have much call for them.

yes that's true.

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Re: 645 problem

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

Je desire vous aider, mais Je ne parle pas anglais :)

--- Jeff Tokayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Puede explicarme que dice.
 No entiendo su ingles.
 
 Jeff
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Yeah, and I tought I taw a puddy tat :)

  --- Jeff Tokayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I tought you have to set the focal plane shutter
 to
   1 sec. when using a leaf
   shutter lens.
   
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Re: New Photos

2001-05-19 Thread petit miam

  I have a lot of photos of Melbourne Zoo in this
 lot as
  well. I tried to get the lions without their cage,
 so
  it looked like I was standing right next to them
 in
  the wild, but I couldn't get rid of the cage. My
 lens
  will only give f5.6 when zoomed to 80mm, and I
 don't
  think this was enough. Any suggestions for getting
 rid
  of cages?
 
  Do they let you walk right up to the cage or is
 there a barrier?

There is a barrier. I don't know if I would want to
get right up close.

  I've managed 
 to shoot caged animals by putting my lens hard-up
 against the fence (a lens 
 with a small enough barrel will fit through), with
 limited success.  Unless you 
 can get the end of the lens through the cage you'll
 also lose sharpness and 
 contrast.

You have Orana Park fairly close I suppose. I went
there once. The safari part would be good for getting
uncaged lions.

  You also need to be careful to avoid getting the
 fence on the other side of 
 the cage into the photo :)

Yeah, I know.

 Check out:
 http://pug.komkon.org/00janu/lion-480.htm
 for a picture I took with my 400/5.6 pressed up
 against the fence.

Couldn't open it.



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Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-19 Thread Arnold Stark

Bob Walkden schrieb:

 'abseil' is the word used in British English, even by gritty,
 unpretentious mountaineering types. We also recognise 'rappel', which is
 also from French so probably no more and no less pretentious.

'rappel' may be from French origin, but abseil definitely is not.
Abseilen is a German verb which consists of ab (down or downwards) and
Seil (rope), so abseilen literally translates into going downwards
with the help of a rope.

Arnold

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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff

William Robb wrote:

   Someone else has already answered this, but I wonder if there
 is an RIP?
  Would that be RG25? :)
 
 Agfapan 25

Sniffle - I'm down to my last 40 rolls. 

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: David A. Mann
Subject: Re: Those black slides



  Someone else has already answered this, but I wonder if there
is an RIP?
 Would that be RG25? :)

Agfapan 25
William Robb

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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Those black slides


 William Robb wrote:

Someone else has already answered this, but I wonder if
there
  is an RIP?
   Would that be RG25? :)
 
  Agfapan 25

 Sniffle - I'm down to my last 40 rolls.

Trade ya 10 of em for a lens pen
William Robb


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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff

William Robb wrote:

   Agfapan 25
 
  Sniffle - I'm down to my last 40 rolls.
 
 Trade ya 10 of em for a lens pen
 William Robb

I'll trade for some well-stored Panatomic-X.

I've always been curious as to why Kodak chose that name.  Perhaps
it had some reference to the modern, atomic age of the late
forties and the fifties.  When did Panatomic-X first appear?
-- 
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Re: HHGTTG

2001-05-19 Thread Bob Blakely

 How can you have a TRIlogy with 6 books?

6 = 4 + 2

42 is the answer to this mystery.

Regards,
Bob...
---
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would
cease.
And when we disarmed They sold us delivered and bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: 'Stick to the Devil you know.'
--Rudyard Kipling

From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 How can you have a TRIlogy with 6 books?

 Divide by two.

 Fans of Douglas Adams might enjoy the William Sleator
 books also. I thought these were great when I got them
 out of the library 10 or so years ago. Singularity,
 House of Stairs, etc. I have been trying to find them
 and read them again without success.

 Thanks for the tip. Terry Pratchett is worth checking into, also.


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FA 28-80

2001-05-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy

Are there any optical differences between the FA 28-80 power zoom model and the non 
power zoom lens? 

Does one provide better images then the other?





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Gary


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Re: Vs: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Dan Scott

Hi Raimo,

We do pay through the nose for somethings-Mercedes, BMW, etc.. :-)

Dan Scott
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Thanks, Arnold
So it seems - when you look at the performance - that the lens is indeed a
bit overpriced. The German price is about the same as in Finland. Why do
the Americans get everything so cheaply?
All the best!
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Re: HHGTTG

2001-05-19 Thread Dan Scott

 How can you have a TRIlogy with 6 books?

6 = 4 + 2

42 is the answer to this mystery.

Regards,
Bob...

Doh! Can't believe I missed that.

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RE: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

I just ordered my 24-90mm here in the UK! For £380.00 inc. VAT, that is
about $543.50.
BH is $499.95, if you buy local you need to ad 6% I assume, so that would
be $530
If I mail order it, I have the shipping cost and the import duty, so that
would be even worse.
Now I have to wait about ten days.

Frits
 So it seems - when you look at the performance - that the lens is
 indeed a bit overpriced. The German price is about the same as in
 Finland. Why do the Americans get everything so cheaply?
 All the best!
 Raimo
 Personal photography homepage at
 http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
 
 Foto Magazin says 1300DM, but I'd rather wait for real prices in
 real shops. The new
 FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 is sold by http://www.technikdirekt.de/ for 629DM
 Arnold

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Vs: OT. Aland language use. (Was: A friend made it to the NewYork Times.)

2001-05-19 Thread Raimo Korhonen

The facts were correct but as to the politics, there´s always at least one more side.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Päivä: 19. toukokuuta 2001 15:12
Aihe: Re: OT. Aland language use. (Was: A friend made it to the NewYork Times.)


Thanks, Lasse! Very enlightening. OT, but worth it for me.

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Vs: Vs: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Raimo Korhonen

I think that you get those cheaper than us, too.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi Raimo,

We do pay through the nose for somethings-Mercedes, BMW, etc.. :-)

Dan Scott
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Thanks, Arnold
So it seems - when you look at the performance - that the lens is indeed a
bit overpriced. The German price is about the same as in Finland. Why do
the Americans get everything so cheaply?
All the best!
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Re: HHGTTG

2001-05-19 Thread Treena Harp

It's like a zen martini. No vermouth -- and no gin, either.

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From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: HHGTTG


  How can you have a TRIlogy with 6 books?
 
 6 = 4 + 2
 
 42 is the answer to this mystery.
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
 
 Doh! Can't believe I missed that.
 
 Dan Scott
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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb


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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 19, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: Those black slides


 William Robb wrote:

Agfapan 25
  
   Sniffle - I'm down to my last 40 rolls.
 
  Trade ya 10 of em for a lens pen
  William Robb

 I'll trade for some well-stored Panatomic-X.

 I've always been curious as to why Kodak chose that name.
Perhaps
 it had some reference to the modern, atomic age of the late
 forties and the fifties.  When did Panatomic-X first appear?

Man, I only have a dozen rolls of Panatomic left. I think it
came out in the late 50s, so is likely named for the age of
blowing up south Pacific islands. Of course, having granularity
as small as atoms might also have something to do wit the
name.
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Re: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Alexander Krohe

Arnold wrote:-

Raimo Korhonen schrieb:

 Interesting! What´s the price in Germany?

Foto Magazin says 1300DM, but I'd rather wait for real
prices in real shops. The new
FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 is sold by
http://www.technikdirekt.de/ for 629DM
Arnold
--

internet-foto.de sells the FA 24-90 for DM 1.191,00.

http://www.internet-foto.de/deu/pentax/pentax.php?PHPSESSID=c214f4b0ff4d497ecfbe01c9a02132d9

Alexander


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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Sat, 19 May 2001 13:57:55 -0600, William Robb wrote:

Man, I only have a dozen rolls of Panatomic left. I think it
came out in the late 50s, so is likely named for the age of
blowing up south Pacific islands. Of course, having granularity
as small as atoms might also have something to do wit the

Can this stuff still be processed through labs? I LOVED that film. 





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Re: Just to please Aaron...

2001-05-19 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's people like you that ensure that some of us can't
 even get one LX :) Shame on you.

Har!

Gianfranco



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Re: Those black slides

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 19, 2001 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Those black slides


 On Sat, 19 May 2001 13:57:55 -0600, William Robb wrote:

 Man, I only have a dozen rolls of Panatomic left. I think it
 came out in the late 50s, so is likely named for the age of
 blowing up south Pacific islands. Of course, having
granularity
 as small as atoms might also have something to do wit the

 Can this stuff still be processed through labs? I LOVED that
film.

I process my own, but there isn't any reason why not. It takes
standard processing. There used to be a direct positive kit that
could be used with Pan-X for making BW slides that was fun.






 Later,
 Gary


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Re: Good price?

2001-05-19 Thread Todd Stanley


I thought the nickname around here for that lens is The Softie.  Even so,
$125 isn't a bad price for it, but for $125 you can definently get a better
lens.

Todd

At 01:30 PM 5/17/01 -0700, you wrote:

That lens, if I'm not mistaken, is famous lemon.  Personally, if
I were to buy it for any price, it would be so that I could take
it apart and see what lenses look like inside.  Wouldn't have
another use for it.

Regards,
___
Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe)

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Emmanuel Ingelsten wrote:

 Hi!
 I'm a total newbie and know very little fair prices when it comes to
used equipment.
 I've been offerend to buy a Pentax 100-300 with Autofocus. Not the new
silver one but an older. They Guy wants 1200 SEK which is 125 US$. He says
it's in good optical condition and this is what it looks like:
 http://home.bip.net/e.ingelsten/Pentax100-300A.jpg
 Do you think it's a fair deal? Maybe the prices on used camera equipment
is different in the states and over here?

 Oh, and when I'm asking I wonder if there are any thing special to think
about with shooting with my manual Takumar 135 f2.5. It doesn't have SMC,
what does that mean in actual photo-situations?

 Thanx alot for all the help and fun this list gives me!!

 Emmanuel

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Re: AF 2.8 35-70mm

2001-05-19 Thread Todd Stanley


Yes, this lens only autofocuses on the ME-F, but it will work on a MF lens
on other Pentaxes.  I suggest you take a look here, for information on the
contacts and how to test the focusing:
http://www.phred.org/pentax/k/extras/K-mount/Kf.html

From what I have heard it's not a great performer, plus it's bulky and hard
to focus manually.

Todd

At 11:55 PM 5/17/01 +0200, you wrote: 

Hi,
  
I'm back since a long time (beginning of this year).
Can anybody help me with the following: I just got myself the first AF lens
from Pentax the 35-70mm. It was cheap while the former owner considered it
as the AF is not functioning. AFAIK the AF does only work when the lens is
mounted on the MEF camera. Is that true? If yes, how can I test if the AF
is working without having the MEF available?
  
What is the value of such a lens if it is in good working order and undamaged?
  
Regards,
  
Wim van Heugten




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FA 28-105 filter thread and other things...

2001-05-19 Thread Joseph Tainter

 Hi all!
 In the press release at the russian Penta-club site - it says that the
 new FA28-105 f/3,2-4,5 AL (IF) has a filter thread of 58mm. According to
 a swedish store, it really has 62mm. Now, which one is it?
 
The filter thread of the Tamron rebadged 28-105 was 62 mm. That may be
the lens this store is referring to, or they may have confused the old
lens with the new one. I understood that the new 28-105 would have a 58
mm. filter ring. This is a Pentax standard, so it gave some assurance
that this may be a Pentax-designed and -built lens.

Joe
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1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread Steve Larson

Hi,
 There`s a pic using the 1000/8 at:
http://members.nbci.com/stevelarson/Photograghy%20Page/Landing%20(2).jpe
if you care to check it out. Went to LAX last evening.
Steve Larson
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June Pop Photo: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Ed Mathews

Peter wrote:
Keppler's SLR column...snip..but the Pentax at $600 stands out like
a sore thumb.  It is the most expensive of the bunch, with the shortest zoom
range. ..snip

Yeah, when I tried out the MZ-S with that lens, the local rep told me that
he thought the lens cost way too much for what it was, and he was afraid
they had priced it too high.

Thanks,
Ed
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RE: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

http://www.technikdirekt.de/ has it for DM 1.279,00

Frits


 Arnold wrote:-

 Raimo Korhonen schrieb:

  Interesting! What´s the price in Germany?

 Foto Magazin says 1300DM, but I'd rather wait for real
 prices in real shops. The new
 FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 is sold by
 http://www.technikdirekt.de/ for 629DM
 Arnold
 --

 internet-foto.de sells the FA 24-90 for DM 1.191,00.

 http://www.internet-foto.de/deu/pentax/pentax.php?PHPSESSID=c214f4
 b0ff4d497ecfbe01c9a02132d9

 Alexander


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Filter Blab

2001-05-19 Thread Steve Larson

Hi,
 There was a discussion a while back about Pentax filters, on how to tell if
they are
SMC or not.
I won a 77mm UV SMC off ebay a while back, and it is definitely SMC by the
wonderful colors. Comparing it to the non SMC  it`s like night and day.
While on filters, the B+W
polarizer I have is about twice as massive as all the other (cheap)
polarizers I have.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

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Re: OT: Re: What Do You Carry

2001-05-19 Thread Stan Halpin

When I was climbing, we considered abseiling to be the same as
rappelling. Each involves sliding down a rope in controlled (?) fashion.
The rope, and the rock below, don't care if you use the German or French
term. In fact, when you are in rapidly falling light, the wind is blowing,
there is a mix of rain/freezing rain/sleet/snow coming down fast, you are
off route on the descent, you can't tell if the rappel rope is long enough
to have reached the next ledge below (which you can't see), at that point
the climber doesn't really care what you call it either. Or at least that
was my experience.

(To make a long story short, the rope reached, I didn't die, but I did
wonder there for awhile . . .)

Stan

 From: petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:33:03 -0700 (PDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: Re: What Do You Carry
 
 I actually thought it was the other way around. But I
 dunno.
 
 I believe rappeling refers strictly to 'walking'
 down a rock face,
 while abseiling can also include simply sliding down
 a rope which
 is many feet away from the nearest surface.  But
 that's just my
 impression; I'm open to correction by those with
 definite knowledge.
 
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RE: 24-90 overpriced?

2001-05-19 Thread Rob Brigham

Where in the UK did you order it from at that price?

I have only seen it for £399 everywhere...

Rob Brigham

-Original Message-
From: Frits J. Wüthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 May 2001 18:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 24-90 overpriced?


I just ordered my 24-90mm here in the UK! For £380.00 inc. VAT, that is
about $543.50.
BH is $499.95, if you buy local you need to ad 6% I assume, so that
would
be $530
If I mail order it, I have the shipping cost and the import duty, so
that
would be even worse.
Now I have to wait about ten days.

Frits
 So it seems - when you look at the performance - that the lens is
 indeed a bit overpriced. The German price is about the same as in
 Finland. Why do the Americans get everything so cheaply?
 All the best!
 Raimo
 Personal photography homepage at
 http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
 
 Foto Magazin says 1300DM, but I'd rather wait for real prices in
 real shops. The new
 FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 is sold by http://www.technikdirekt.de/ for 629DM
 Arnold

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Re: Filter Blab

2001-05-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Steve ...

  There was a discussion a while back about 
 Pentax filters, on how to tell if they are
 SMC or not.

All of mine say SMC on the filter ring.

 I won a 77mm UV SMC off ebay a while back, 
 and it is definitely SMC by the
 wonderful colors. Comparing it to the non 
 SMC  it`s like night and day.

I had a SMC skylight on one of the LX one day, and the guys at the
local camera shop were astonished.  Unless they looked very
carefully they couldn't tell there was a filter on the lens.  I
liked 'em so much that I'm in the process of getting all sizes and
all colors.  Just put an order in for a full set of yellow filters. 
They are, without a doubt, the best filters I've ever used. 

 While on filters, the B+W polarizer I have 
 is about twice as massive as all the other (cheap)
 polarizers I have.

It's big compared to the not so cheap Hoya SMC Pol as well.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grain is the brushstroke of photography. - Man Ray

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Re: 1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread Rfsindg

Steve,

Looks like the lens has more resolving power than the air around LAX can 
deliver!
Was the airborne plane on the way in or taking off? ...like the guy in the 
yellow vest too.  He gives the whole thing some scale.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
  There`s a pic using the 1000/8 at:
 http://members.nbci.com/stevelarson/Photograghy%20Page/Landing%20(2).jpe
 if you care to check it out. Went to LAX last evening.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
  
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Cable Release F? Who needs it.....

2001-05-19 Thread Bob Keefer



Suddenly needing to remotely trigger my PZ-20 from about 15 
feet away fora series of photos this weekend, I called the local camera 
store this morning and was told the Pentax Cable Release F was a mere 
$50.

For a switch?

So here's what I did: In the absence of any 
plugI could find around the house that remotely resembled the 
Pentax release socket, I took a length of two-strand speaker wire, stripped 
insulation from the ends, and wrapped one end of each strand around a smallish 
piece of aluminum foil, so it formed a ball about the size of a matchhead on the 
end of each wire.

Then I stuffed the foil balls into the release socket, one 
each next to the middle and top contacts on the camera. A strip of black 
electrician's tape held it all in place.

For firing, I first wrapped the other ends of the speaker wire 
around the twin prongs of a household extension cord, and plugged an HH-PC flash 
cord into the other end. The theory was I could plug the PC end of the cord into 
my flash meter and trigger the camera by hitting the cord-flash-meter 
button.

This Rube Goldberg solution actually worked, although 
intermittently; I suspect by the time the camera trigger voltage made its way 
through all that wire, it was able to be stymied by any contact corrosion or 
lack of alignment. Eventually I gave up on the flash meter and triggered 
thecamera by shorting across the PC connector with a car key, which worked 
just fine.

Inelegant, perhaps, but very effective. And dead cheap. I shot 
tworolls and didn't waste $50on photo price gouging.

(By the way, this apparently only triggers the shutter, so you 
need to set focus and exposure manually...The third contact seems to do AE and 
AF.)

 


Chromogenic BW Film

2001-05-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Does anyone know why all the chromogenic BW film on the market is
400 speed?
Why not some other speed?
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 9

2001-05-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff

From: dave o'brien

 I find it astoundingly difficult to believe 
 that the most popular film in the world is 
 Tri-X as your typical point'n'shooter tends 
 to think that only colour print film will 
 work in their cameras and you can't
 get Tri-X processed in a minilab.

I misread the article.  It said that TX is the most popular BW film
in the world.

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grain is the brushstroke of photography. - Man Ray
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Re: 1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread Steve Larson

Hi Bob,
 I think you are right about the resolving power, it is a good piece of
glass.
The plane was on final approach for landing. I took some panned shots also
of planes taking off, and they were pretty crisp too, but not with the
wooden
tripod, I`ll try the wooden one on the next outing.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: 1000 f8 pic


 Steve,

 Looks like the lens has more resolving power than the air around LAX can
 deliver!
 Was the airborne plane on the way in or taking off? ...like the guy in the
 yellow vest too.  He gives the whole thing some scale.

 Regards,  Bob S.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi,
   There`s a pic using the 1000/8 at:
  http://members.nbci.com/stevelarson/Photograghy%20Page/Landing%20(2).jpe
  if you care to check it out. Went to LAX last evening.
  Steve Larson
  Redondo Beach, California
   
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Re: Filter Blab

2001-05-19 Thread Steve Larson


Hey Shel,
 The non SMC Pentax UV is a nice filter, but you`re right, when the SMC is
on the lens you can`t tell, because the coatings are so nice. It says Class
II
on the box, does your SMC`s say that (Class II) too? I going to eventually
get them
for all my lenses too.
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Filter Blab


 Hi Steve ...

   There was a discussion a while back about
  Pentax filters, on how to tell if they are
  SMC or not.

 All of mine say SMC on the filter ring.

  I won a 77mm UV SMC off ebay a while back,
  and it is definitely SMC by the
  wonderful colors. Comparing it to the non
  SMC  it`s like night and day.

 I had a SMC skylight on one of the LX one day, and the guys at the
 local camera shop were astonished.  Unless they looked very
 carefully they couldn't tell there was a filter on the lens.  I
 liked 'em so much that I'm in the process of getting all sizes and
 all colors.  Just put an order in for a full set of yellow filters.
 They are, without a doubt, the best filters I've ever used.

  While on filters, the B+W polarizer I have
  is about twice as massive as all the other (cheap)
  polarizers I have.

 It's big compared to the not so cheap Hoya SMC Pol as well.

 --
 Shel Belinkoff
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Grain is the brushstroke of photography. - Man Ray

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California

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Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 9

2001-05-19 Thread Steve Larson

20 lashes for Shel!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message - 
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Favorite Film Roll Call Results UPDATE 9


 From: dave o'brien
 
  I find it astoundingly difficult to believe 
  that the most popular film in the world is 
  Tri-X as your typical point'n'shooter tends 
  to think that only colour print film will 
  work in their cameras and you can't
  get Tri-X processed in a minilab.
 
 I misread the article.  It said that TX is the most popular BW film
 in the world.
 
 -- 
 Shel Belinkoff
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Grain is the brushstroke of photography. - Man Ray
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Re: 1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread Dan Scott

Steve,
Very cool photo!
Dan Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve,

Looks like the lens has more resolving power than the air around LAX can
deliver!
Was the airborne plane on the way in or taking off? ...like the guy in the
yellow vest too.  He gives the whole thing some scale.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
  There`s a pic using the 1000/8 at:
 http://members.nbci.com/stevelarson/Photograghy%20Page/Landing%20(2).jpe
 if you care to check it out. Went to LAX last evening.
 Steve Larson
 Redondo Beach, California
  
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Re: 1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread Gary L. Murphy

On Sat, 19 May 2001 18:57:36 -0700, Steve Larson wrote:

The plane was on final approach for landing. I took some panned shots also
of planes taking off, and they were pretty crisp too, but not with the

Steve,

That's a great pic!! Thanks for sharing.





Later,
Gary


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Re: 1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread Doug Franklin

On Sat, 19 May 2001 20:16:24 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was the airborne plane on the way in or taking off? 

Inbound. Angle of Attack is too low for takeoff and engines don't seem
to be at full-throttle, based on the exhaust plumes.

TTYL, DougF

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Re: Filter Blab

2001-05-19 Thread Dave Sprinkle

Hi;

BH lists a more expensive Pentax 49mm UV filter for the 4377 lenses,
anyone know the
difference between that filter and the standard pentax 49 mm UV filter.

Dave


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Re: 1000 f8 pic

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb

My wife likes it Steve (thats a good thing)
William Robb
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From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 19, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: 1000 f8 pic


 Hi,
  There`s a pic using the 1000/8 at:

http://members.nbci.com/stevelarson/Photograghy%20Page/Landing%2
0(2).jpe
 if you care to check it out. Went to LAX last evening.
 Steve Larson


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Re: Cable Release F? Who needs it.....

2001-05-19 Thread Michel Adam


I ended up doing something similar, but only as far as the extension cords.

The last fireworks we shot here, March 30th, I controlled 3 cameras remotely,
two of them at 100 metres, by using extension cords, connected at the control
end to light switches (the wall mounted kind), affixed to a piece of wood.

But at the other end (a Z1p, an MZ3 and a 645), I simply used cable switch F
ends, and a remote trigger cord end for the 645 (the same one that can be
used for a Super A / SuperProgram).

At 20 below zero, the fiddling with aluminium foil is just not an option.
Also the fact that everyone was counting on this to be the pictures of
record did not allow for a reshoot (aside from the $10,000 of fireworks).

Another advantage of using light switches instead of the regular
switches, is that when set to 'B', you don't have to hold the switches
closed for the duration of the shot, typically 5 to 20 seconds.
 
In the end, when reliability in adverse condition is an issue,
the manufacturer's connectors was the only way to go.

In this case, all three rolls came out fine. Even had two of them
scanned to photocd. I guess I have no excuse not submit to the
PUG ...

Michel

 
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From: Bob Keefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 18:34
Subject: Cable Release F? Who needs it.


Suddenly needing to remotely trigger my PZ-20 from about 15 feet away
for a series of photos this weekend, I called the local camera store
this morning and was told the Pentax Cable Release F was a mere $50.
 
For a switch?
 
So here's what I did: In the absence of any plug I could find around the
house that remotely resembled the Pentax release socket, I took a length
of two-strand speaker wire, stripped insulation from the ends, and
wrapped one end of each strand around a smallish piece of aluminum foil,
so it formed a ball about the size of a matchhead on the end of each
wire.
 
Then I stuffed the foil balls into the release socket, one each next to
the middle and top contacts on the camera. A strip of black
electrician's tape held it all in place.
 
For firing, I first wrapped the other ends of the speaker wire around
the twin prongs of a household extension cord, and plugged an HH-PC
flash cord into the other end. The theory was I could plug the PC end of
the cord into my flash meter and trigger the camera by hitting the
cord-flash-meter button.
 
This Rube Goldberg solution actually worked, although intermittently; I
suspect by the time the camera trigger voltage made its way through all
that wire, it was able to be stymied by any contact corrosion or lack of
alignment. Eventually I gave up on the flash meter and triggered the
camera by shorting across the PC connector with a car key, which worked
just fine.
 
Inelegant, perhaps, but very effective. And dead cheap. I shot two rolls
and didn't waste $50 on photo price gouging.
 
(By the way, this apparently only triggers the shutter, so you need to
set focus and exposure manually...The third contact seems to do AE and
AF.)
 
  


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Re: Chromogenic BW Film

2001-05-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 19, 2001 7:23 PM
Subject: Chromogenic BW Film


 Does anyone know why all the chromogenic BW film on the
market is
 400 speed?
 Why not some other speed?

I suspect the emulsion technology is considered good enough that
a slower speed isn't needed, the chromogenics were originally
marketed to the zoom lens crowd, so the extra film speed is a
bonus, and Ilford has been marketing XP-1/XP-2 for the past 20
years as a 400 iso, so anything slower would likely be risking
being viewed as a step backwards.
FWIW, I think XP-2 is Crap with a capital C.
I did a microscope analysis of the grain of normally processed
T400CN and Ilford PanF+ which had been processed in Rodinal. The
chromogenic had much finer grain, though it wasn't anywhere near
as sharp.
William Robb



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