Re: *istD Tv wheel problem
Hi Jostein, Thanks, Heiko! You're welcome. Simple solutions are the best ;-) Cheers, Heiko
PAW04: Another Spoleto shot
Probably a bit of cliché: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw04e.htm Comments, comments... Dario Bonazza
Re: PAW04: Another Spoleto shot
Ooh, I like this one. The composition is wonderful. The flower/subject in the lower right corner with the almost monochromatic background...This one is great! Bruce Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:12:36 AM, you wrote: DB Probably a bit of cliché: DB http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw04e.htm DB Comments, comments... DB Dario Bonazza
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Care to post a link? A. On 19 May 2004, at 08:44, John Francis wrote: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service.
Re: Future Practicality of Film
In a message dated 5/18/2004 8:59:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's room for both, but will both survive? Hard to say in the long run. Perhaps the sun will explode before film disappears, or perhaps there will be an ominous announcement tomorrow putting to rest all this speculation. Shel Belinkoff -- Come on, shel, you know you'll go with a DSLR someday. Resistance is futile -- you *will* be absorbed. ;-) Interestingly, I opened the latest Outdoor Photographer today and found that Canon has released a new film camera. Okay, not a new, new one -- a reworking of one. Nevertheless it is a new one in a sense: the Elan 7n/7ne. So I wouldn't write off film cameras yet. And I wouldn't write off Pentax releasing another film camera, either. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAW04: Another Spoleto shot
Bruce Dayton wrote: Ooh, I like this one. The composition is wonderful. The flower/subject in the lower right corner with the almost monochromatic background...This one is great! Bruce Glad you like it, Bruce. Maybe firing the flash could have improved it. I used the flash on the main subject in the foreground (for other different shots) that same day, but I'm not sure I like them more than this one. Speaking of almost monochromatic effect, I also tried desaturating all colors but reds before posting it. However, the picture did not improve so much, hence I left it unchanged, as taken that cloudy day. Dario
Re: Trolls
Not good point. I have been a Windows user since the beginning and still am. A. On 19 May 2004, at 09:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/18/2004 1:20:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is one more frustrated Apple zealot who is trying to justify himself to us. Regardless of the technical merits, this list is not the place for that discussion. Regards, Bob S. - Well, true, good point, about complaining without actually being a Windows user. But does that mean I get to b_tch more because I *do* use it? Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: Trolls
Hi, yes just saw your reply that came to late for my reply ... thanks for the welcome. A. On 19 May 2004, at 09:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/18/2004 8:12:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Greywolf. Yes, I was coming to the same conclusion myself. As a magazine editor I have a wide range of photographic interests, and obviously get to use a lot of different kit through work. Personally though I take mostly people and place photos (the people photos being mainly my 18 month old son at present!), and my favorite kit consists of a Spotmatic F, Super A, MX, with 28/3/5 50/1.4 and 85/1.8 lenses. Soon to be joined by a 105/2.8 purchased off the list. Antonio - P.S. Yes, saw your post later that you do actually use you-know-what. So ignore my comment. (Besides, if you remember, I was basically in agreement.) Welcome to the PDML! Sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's not. Marnie aka Doe :-) And sometimes it's fun even when it's not. Just stick your tongue firmly in your cheek and enjoy the show.
PAW05: Spoleto (again!)
Another one: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw05e.htm As usual, comments welcome. Dario Bonazza
Re: Trolls
On 19/5/04, GRAYWLOF, discombobulated, offered: That is not censorship, but as soon as we think we have the right to tell Cotty, for example, that he is not to talk about it either, we have stepped over that line. Yeah well I didn't wann join in yer flamin discussion anyways!!! ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
PAW05: Floating baskets
Here I liked the floating effect: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw05e.htm As usual, comments welcome. Dario Bonazza
RE: PAW - There heeere..
On 19/5/04, tv, discombobulated, offered: http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id16.html Cool. Got this one on the way out of a church last weekend - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/cicada.jpg I was hoping he was laying in wait for the bride, but he let her go... tv These things for real? They look like props from Judge Dredd. BTW tv I've emailed you separately about the van - I'm sure you're a busy boy, but can you let me know how much money please! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: Trolls
To summarize, Graywolf is basically saying that the list has exerted too much negative peer pressure on our dear Antonio. He came rampaging in like a bloody bull in a china shop. The gene pool always sorts itself out in the end. Heard of Gaia? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Air transport strategy
Hi tan I fly a lot and use a pelican 1600 for air travel: holds 2X LX 1X MX 8 pentax lenses 2 converters 1 voigtlander body 2 lenses 1 xpan body 2 lenses 1 vivitar 283 1 vivitar 2500 no way to carry this lot on board with room for film too! I use a hefty combination pelilock and the case is bright [well dirty] yellow. I also have a pelican 1500 that holds 5 more vivitar 283s, quantum battery packs,polaroid back for LX, slaves, flashmeter and all my other lighting goodies. I have seen these literally being thrown on the plane [like a masochist I always sit over the luggagehatch to watch them being loaded]..so far so good.the 1600 cost USD 30 on ebay! I carry on a billingham hadley with 2x voigtlander bodies and more lenses + FILM and if poss a Billingham 225 [normally has the pentax gear in] full of FILM If this isn't feasible then you can get an awful lot in a domke vest! [doesn't count as carry on!] just be sure to check in early enough for them to security check all this.. Just my .2 euro worth Clive Antibes France
Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Hello, nice to meet you too. The link you posted is to a know issue with DLling dodgly .dmg files (like .Zip files). Basically if you set your browser to auto open them after DL there is a potential security risk as you could be unzipping a dodgy piece of software - of course for it to do any harm you would have to allow it to install first too. No really a big risk but something to be aware of. The lesson as always is watch what you DL. A. On 19 May 2004, at 05:21, KT Takeshita wrote: On 5/18/04 5:53 PM, Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I didn't know that. Interesting. So how come Windows is still so vulnerable to virus attacks? Hi Antonio, Nice to meet you (on the list :-). This might help you understand what's going on in each OS? http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/05/18/safariadvisory/ index.php?redi rect=1084911514000 Cheers, Ken
Re: photo opinion wanted
On Wed, 19 May 2004, John Forbes wrote: I agree with Frank (no comments, please). This picture is all about colour, and it hits you in the face with it. Very powerful. As for the legs; flamingos have very long ones, and the body wouldn't dominate the frame if the legs were included. The picture just wouldn't work. Wouldn't work for me either; the colourful body would be much smaller. Since when am I entitled to an opinion (and particularly one agreeing with Frank), Kostas :-)
PAW06: Child's play
In the rain (Spoleto again!): http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw06e.htm OK, I believe it's enough for say 3 weeks! Dario Bonazza
Re: PAW05: Floating baskets
--- Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here I liked the floating effect: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw05e.htm As usual, comments welcome. Dario Bonazza Yes, so do I, strange how choosing the angle and restricting the view can change how we see things, almost looks like items washed up on a beach... Also... A good addition to the discussion on the 16-45, no better comment than a fine picture eh? Well done, Tom. Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Re: PAW - Sugar Glider
On May 18, 2004, at 8:16 PM, David Nelson wrote: http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/glider.jpg Wow, I'm just watching those things on TV right now. Wild Australasia or something. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
OT: Irony is alive and well ...
On 19/5/04, John Francis, discombobulated, offered: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service. John, can you put that into plain language for me? thx. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Alle 08:35, mercoledì 19 maggio 2004, Cotty ha scritto: On 19/5/04, John Francis, discombobulated, offered: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service. John, can you put that into plain language for me? thx. rm -rf / means : make up some space on those quite-full disk, you'll problably need it. but also means: loose all your data and Operating System too. Personally I prefer rm -rf . that first delete your data. (to be sure) ;) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if there are any drawbacks. ciao Danilo
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Alle 11:10, mercoledì 19 maggio 2004, danilo ha scritto: Alle 08:35, mercoledì 19 maggio 2004, Cotty ha scritto: On 19/5/04, John Francis, discombobulated, offered: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service. John, can you put that into plain language for me? thx. rm -rf / means : make up some space on those quite-full disk, you'll problably need it. but also means: loose all your data and Operating System too. Personally I prefer rm -rf . that first delete your data. (to be sure) ;) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if there are any drawbacks. Sorry, obviously was Jhon Francis who wrote that mail, my mistake. Danilo
OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase
I have been changing my photo kit since the arrival of the *istD, and thinking about how I might continue in film... I have always wanted to own a view camera to take a few Large Format BWs and there was this 5x7 on eBay and only £90, well one or two bids and it was mine. It arrived a few days later, and, as I unpacked it along with all the old film and dark-slides a small label fell out which read; LOUIS KLEMANTASKI F.I.I.P. F.R.P.S. Well the web makes initial reseach quick and easy so I typed his name into Google A wealth of information followed. Pause here, do not do what I did, but ask yourself who was he? Don't know.. Well he seems to have been one of the foremost photographers of Motorsport in the 20th C. beginning his career in the 1930s and retiring in around '75. he also photographed many figures in the arts in the post war years including Stravinsky and Margot Fonteyn. Did this camera belong to him? I emailed the seller and, yes, he knew the camera belonged to Klem but had not bothered to find out about him. So curiosity being roused, it has cost me quite a bit more to obtain a copy of his auto-biography (huge book full of anecdotes, history and pictures) but this reveals a fascinating life and I haven't yet reached as far as the end of the 1930s. All I feel is Wow, to own something that has been part of such a rich history. My friend, who deals in antiques, could not believe that the seller would not bother to mention the provenance in the hope of making more money Oh, and the camera, it's a Dutch made Monorail, all working, a full range of movements, could do with a bit of new felt around the back, otherwise ready to go.. Don't think I'll be carrying it too far from the car though... Happy Wednesday from sunny Devon, Tom. Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Re: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)
On May 19, 2004, at 11:30 AM, Winston wrote: Gosh, I would not pay the cost of G5 for the speed it offers. Neither would I... not in this country anyway. OTOH Virginia Tech got a pretty good bang for their bucks. But that's not exactly a Photoshop machine :) Cheers, - Dave (a G5 owner) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
On May 19, 2004, at 6:44 PM, John Francis wrote: Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) It looks like it runs the script as the user who's using the browser. So it won't wipe your entire hard drive, but if mis-used right it could potentially do some interesting things. If you're an administrator user it can't do any worse as it would prompt for a password to run sudo. OK that might fool some people, provided they don't get suspicious about the terminal window that just opened. Either way its not good and hopefully Apple will make a fix available soon. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)
Ouch! In my defense, I use my photoshop machine mostly for playing games though :( But hey, at least we have something in common - I use a G5 toofrom C*non :P -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME) On May 19, 2004, at 11:30 AM, Winston wrote: Gosh, I would not pay the cost of G5 for the speed it offers. Neither would I... not in this country anyway. OTOH Virginia Tech got a pretty good bang for their bucks. But that's not exactly a Photoshop machine :) Cheers, - Dave (a G5 owner) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase
Wow, Tom, that is a wonderful story! thanks so much for sharing! tan. -Original Message- From: Tom Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2004 7:36 PM To: Pentaxdiscuss Subject: OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase I have been changing my photo kit since the arrival of the *istD, and thinking about how I might continue in film... I have always wanted to own a view camera to take a few Large Format BWs and there was this 5x7 on eBay and only £90, well one or two bids and it was mine. It arrived a few days later, and, as I unpacked it along with all the old film and dark-slides a small label fell out which read; LOUIS KLEMANTASKI F.I.I.P. F.R.P.S. Well the web makes initial reseach quick and easy so I typed his name into Google A wealth of information followed. Pause here, do not do what I did, but ask yourself who was he? Don't know.. Well he seems to have been one of the foremost photographers of Motorsport in the 20th C. beginning his career in the 1930s and retiring in around '75. he also photographed many figures in the arts in the post war years including Stravinsky and Margot Fonteyn. Did this camera belong to him? I emailed the seller and, yes, he knew the camera belonged to Klem but had not bothered to find out about him. So curiosity being roused, it has cost me quite a bit more to obtain a copy of his auto-biography (huge book full of anecdotes, history and pictures) but this reveals a fascinating life and I haven't yet reached as far as the end of the 1930s. All I feel is Wow, to own something that has been part of such a rich history. My friend, who deals in antiques, could not believe that the seller would not bother to mention the provenance in the hope of making more money Oh, and the camera, it's a Dutch made Monorail, all working, a full range of movements, could do with a bit of new felt around the back, otherwise ready to go.. Don't think I'll be carrying it too far from the car though... Happy Wednesday from sunny Devon, Tom. Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) It looks like it runs the script as the user who's using the browser. So it won't wipe your entire hard drive, but if mis-used right it could potentially do some interesting things. If you're an administrator user it can't do any worse as it would prompt for a password to run sudo. OK that might fool some people, provided they don't get suspicious about the terminal window that just opened. Either way its not good and hopefully Apple will make a fix available soon. Translation required please Dave :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service. John, can you put that into plain language for me? thx. rm -rf / means : make up some space on those quite-full disk, you'll problably need it. but also means: loose all your data and Operating System too. Personally I prefer rm -rf . that first delete your data. (to be sure) ;) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if there are any drawbacks. No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* ! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
[..] Sorry, obviously was Jhon Francis who wrote that mail, my mistake. Danilo And obviously was JOHN. I've had a little problem with my keyboard. ubt nwo ti semes to eb fxide... FKUC!!! ;) danilo
Re: photo opinion wanted
A jest more than a comment. In fact, I often agree with you, but argument seems to be more fashionable than agreement on this list at the moment, so I keep a low profile. John On Tue, 18 May 2004 21:33:58 -0400, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, Of course, your no comments please is a comment in and of itself, isn't it? vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Frank (no comments, please). snip _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re[2]: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Hello Cotty, Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 1:06:59 PM, you wrote: snip C No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's C guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it C was* ! rm -rf deletes the given direcotry recursively, whithout asking any confirmation from the user. -r is for recursive: remove the contents of directories recursively -f is force: ignore errors, don't ask anything, wipe out what you can Now if the given directory is / and you have admin access, I'm sure you won't use it. Attila who don't know Macs... but this is fairly basic Unix
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
rm -rf / means delete all the files from your file system. it's unclear whether the service runs with root permission or not. if it does, then the delete will succeed. Herb... - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:06 AM Subject: Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ... No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* !
RE: Future Practicality of Film
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Yefei He wrote: I live in Iowa too and I don't raise hogs or corn. I do run over badgers from time to time:-) http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Anyone still using windows ME
Hi Antonio, I was expecting that you would read the following paragraph in that article in response to your query why Mac is usually spared for virus attack which is very rampant in Windows machine. Never mind on OS/X security hole etc. Typically, people write exploits and other forms of malicious code for the Windows operating system because so many people use that OS and because of the notoriety the person gets. For those same reasons, Macs are usually spared. It seems to be that people just don't write exploits for the Mac because they're not as popular and they [the exploit writers] don't get much bang for the buck, Cheers, Ken On 5/19/04 4:41 AM, Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, nice to meet you too. The link you posted is to a know issue with DLling dodgly .dmg files (like .Zip files). Basically if you set your browser to auto open them after DL there is a potential security risk as you could be unzipping a dodgy piece of software - of course for it to do any harm you would have to allow it to install first too. No really a big risk but something to be aware of. The lesson as always is watch what you DL. A. On 19 May 2004, at 05:21, KT Takeshita wrote: On 5/18/04 5:53 PM, Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I didn't know that. Interesting. So how come Windows is still so vulnerable to virus attacks? Hi Antonio, Nice to meet you (on the list :-). This might help you understand what's going on in each OS? http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/05/18/safariadvisory/ index.php?redi rect=1084911514000 Cheers, Ken
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 12:41:47 AM, graywolf wrote: g Golly, that will virus wipe a bunch of hard drives, won't it? This email contains the HONOR SYSTEM virus. Send ten copies of this message to your friends and then reformat your hard drive. Regards, Bob... I wouldn't joke at that ;-) You never know who might be reading the PDML archive on the web, you might have NSA/FBI on your doorsteps tomorrow for creating the HONOR SYSTEM virus. Ok, I will be offlist for a few days as I reformat my drive and rein^C
Re: Photoshop Machine (Was RE: Anyone still using windows ME)
On May 19, 2004, at 9:49 PM, Winston wrote: In my defense, I use my photoshop machine mostly for playing games though :( That's OK; I may use my Photoshop machine for Photoshop, but I also use my scanning machine for games :) But hey, at least we have something in common - I use a G5 toofrom C*non :P I once asked a guy who works in a camera store about the new G5 (he's an Apple guy as well) and he thought I was talking about the camera... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: OT: There May Be Trouble Ahead...
hmmm... Just for the cash, or is there a scent of upcoming enablement in the air? Jostein Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ah! Silly me. Now I read you. :-) A very nice man just popped around and gave me a pile of cash. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3816153181 We were both pleased as punch. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
On May 19, 2004, at 10:06 PM, Cotty wrote: (quoting someone else) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if there are any drawbacks. No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* ! Oh all right. rm is a unix shell command which removes files (ie delete). A lot of unix commands are very short and cryptic-looking, because they are named to be quick easy to type. The -rf options indicate (r)ecursively delete directories, and (f)orce deletion regardless of permissions or anything else the system might complain about (provided you're allowed to override these). / indicates the root directory, the top-level, which contains the entire filesystem. As another aside, Apple made one of the best desktop environment design decisions I've ever seen, in that they actually hid much of the internal structure of the filesystem from the desktop. So rm -rf / wipes your whole hard drive. If you have the permissions to do it. Because the exploit actually opens a terminal, it could theoretically do this, but note that the guy could not get a command with spaces to work. I have ideas for possible easy ways around this, though. On Mac OS X, only the root user can do this, and the root user isn't even enabled by default. Administrator users have limited root-like powers but you need to enter your password each time you try to do anything potentially damaging. Now this AppleHelp service... I don't think its a service in the same terms as file sharing, ftp access or remote login. It certainly isn't listed in my services panel (under Sharing in the system preferences). So if it can be disabled, it might not be a trivial thing to do. I'm just going to wait for Apple to release a patch, and get on with my life :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: OT: Eliminating 'virii' ( was Re: Anyone still using windows ME
BW I suspect that if you did a poll the overwhelming majority of BW those people would know perfectly well what the English plural of BW 'box' is, but continue to say 'boxen' for nerdy jargon reasons. I have a herd of boxen to care for from Ox, pl. Oxen Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
Re: PAW05: Spoleto (again!)
Oooo! I like this one. That's a very nice lens. I'm impressed at the range of the 16mm, without distortion. Yes, there are perspective effects, noting how the inner window frames lean toward each other, but not what I'd term distortion. One can get distortion with an extreme wide angle, but if you stay aware while you're exposing the shot, it will turn out just fine, as this one did! Well done, sir! keith whaley Dario Bonazza wrote: Another one: http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw05e.htm As usual, comments welcome. Dario Bonazza
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
It means remove (rm) recursively (-r) with a forced (-f) override of permissions all files starting with the root (/) directory. If run as root (systems administer) it will erase all the files on the filesystem. Sounds insane, but it allows remote upgrades over the network because it will leave the system running and you can restore the files from another server. All unix systems that I have seen do assume they are being administered by someone who knows what they are doing. That tends to go with the terriory of being a multiuser system. BTW, network connected unix systems should never be run as root except when being worked on. Always run from a user account. If someone can get into your system as root they can do anything they want with it from just about anywhere. BTW, does Apple tell you any of this? -- Cotty wrote: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service. John, can you put that into plain language for me? thx. rm -rf / means : make up some space on those quite-full disk, you'll problably need it. but also means: loose all your data and Operating System too. Personally I prefer rm -rf . that first delete your data. (to be sure) ;) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if there are any drawbacks. No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* ! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: head for monopod?
I just got the 484Rc miniball head for about $49 and I use it for soccer games. Note what Bruce said, however. You probably won't be using the head on the fly like a tripod, but rather tilting the monopod. It's much faster that way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase
Great story, Tom from Devon! PS: I lived in Devon (Kingswear) when I was young. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase
Tom, This is a real piece of luck! Now, if it turns out that 5x7 photography doesn't stick with you, at least you have a fine collectible, to act as a conversation starter for years to come! What a find! keith whaley Tom Addison wrote: I have been changing my photo kit since the arrival of the *istD, and thinking about how I might continue in film... I have always wanted to own a view camera to take a few Large Format BWs and there was this 5x7 on eBay and only £90, well one or two bids and it was mine. It arrived a few days later, and, as I unpacked it along with all the old film and dark-slides a small label fell out which read; LOUIS KLEMANTASKI F.I.I.P. F.R.P.S. Well the web makes initial reseach quick and easy so I typed his name into Google A wealth of information followed. [...]
Re: OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase
Ain't eBay a strange place. Full of overpriced Vintage junk. And Valuable, documentable, stuff sold as just plain junk. 5x7 is enjoying a bit of a resurgence of enterest fed strangely enough by annoucements of the size being discontinued by some of the big film makers. You may wind up having to mail order your film but it is available. I always have thought 5x7 was a rather neat size film. Small enough to be enlarged, big enough to show contact prints. Enjoy your new toy. -- Tom Addison wrote: I have been changing my photo kit since the arrival of the *istD, and thinking about how I might continue in film... I have always wanted to own a view camera to take a few Large Format BWs and there was this 5x7 on eBay and only £90, well one or two bids and it was mine. It arrived a few days later, and, as I unpacked it along with all the old film and dark-slides a small label fell out which read; LOUIS KLEMANTASKI F.I.I.P. F.R.P.S. Well the web makes initial reseach quick and easy so I typed his name into Google A wealth of information followed. Pause here, do not do what I did, but ask yourself who was he? Don't know.. Well he seems to have been one of the foremost photographers of Motorsport in the 20th C. beginning his career in the 1930s and retiring in around '75. he also photographed many figures in the arts in the post war years including Stravinsky and Margot Fonteyn. Did this camera belong to him? I emailed the seller and, yes, he knew the camera belonged to Klem but had not bothered to find out about him. So curiosity being roused, it has cost me quite a bit more to obtain a copy of his auto-biography (huge book full of anecdotes, history and pictures) but this reveals a fascinating life and I haven't yet reached as far as the end of the 1930s. All I feel is Wow, to own something that has been part of such a rich history. My friend, who deals in antiques, could not believe that the seller would not bother to mention the provenance in the hope of making more money Oh, and the camera, it's a Dutch made Monorail, all working, a full range of movements, could do with a bit of new felt around the back, otherwise ready to go.. Don't think I'll be carrying it too far from the car though... Happy Wednesday from sunny Devon, Tom. Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Future Practicality of Film
The Kodak kiosks for printing from CF cards and other media are also very convenient and give folks a little control such as cropping. When my wife discovered this, she became a much bigger fan of digital. The point is that digital CURRENTLY gives the average person some control over their prints, which is more than they have with film. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 02:09PM On 18/5/04, BOB S, discombobulated, offered: Digital photography still has issues to address. Being computer literate is the first hurdle. Owning a computer is the second. Long term storage is the third. Some manufacturers realise this and are providing a simple camera-to- printer solution that the majority of point and shooters (even with DSLRs) would find very convenient Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Future Practicality of Film
Ebeneezer Scrooge writes: Now, they are being told that digital is good enough. And, they are being told the truth. The truth is, a 2mp camera is good enough for most consumers. The truth is, they don't need to be a computer wizard to run the thing. The truth is, they don't even need a computer. And the truth is, when enough of them have bought enough digital cameras, and are no longer feeding Max 400 into their point and shoots, film will go away. William Robb Bah Humbug Mr Schrooge. Bob Marley Seems being dead has done wonders for Bob Marley's coherence.
PUG is down???
I just tried to check themes for future galleries and pug.komkon.org refuses to oppen :-( Are there any problems with PUG site??? -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Trolls
Good question. I don't know who Herbert is or why it came out of my keyboard. Edwin Armstrong Inventor of FM modulation. http://www.oldradio.com/archives/people/armstrong.htm Regards, Bob... --- No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. -- Mark Twain From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who's Herbert Armstrong? Bob Blakely wrote: EVERY great innovator, in all fields of endeavor, held a minority view and was prepared to argue it against more than one person and win the argument. Galileo, Gandhi, Herbert Armstrong, Martin Luther king, Copernicus. The converse, however, is not necessarily true.
Re: Refrigerator Organization and Use
I'm afraid we'll see this thread start too Dario (what about getting back on Pentax and photography sooner or later?) - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use Last night, wading through all the off topic and inane messages and comments posted these past few days made me hungry, and I went downstairs for a snack. Upon opening the fridge, I realized that the shelves were not well organized. I tend to put things in just every which way. This got me to wondering about how other people store items in their refrigerators. Are they neat and organized, with dairy in one area, fruits and veggies in another, do they use dispensers for soft drinks and beer, and what do they use their crispers for? So, in the spirit of the recent threads, how do YOU organize your refrigerator? Do you wish for some feature that your fridge doesn't have, like an ice maker, or maybe a USB 2.0 or Firewire connection? Does anyone have a digital refrigerator, and, if so, can you store film in it? Maybe some refrigerator photos would be in order. Let's see what's inside yours, or maybe just a snap or two of all the things tacked up on the doors magnets, photos, kid's drawings, diet reminders. Shel Belinkoff
RE: PAW: Kelly
Hi Fred ... She is cute. I'd like to see some background, though. There's something very odd about seeing her just floating around without something to anchor her. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/18/2004 7:07:11 PM Subject: PAW: Kelly http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2372227size=md Another photograph of my little friend, and budding model Kelly. I snapped her sitting on a couch with my Optio 33L, then removed the background in Photoshop. I think she looks real cute and her mother just loved the 8x10 I printed of this shot. I find the Optio great for shooting children, they get a big kick out of seeing themselves straight away which usually makes them happy to pose for even more shots. Hope you like it. -- Fred Widall, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall --
RE: PUG Deadline
DON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!! You just shut up now you hear? :) Tom C. From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PUG Deadline Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 06:48:13 -0700 Get scanning or uploading folks! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California
Re: PUG is down???
This month's PUG is at: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04may/ You can go to the PUG Form to see the upcoming themes: http://oksne.net/autopug/PUGform.asp The theme for June is cliche. Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: I just tried to check themes for future galleries and pug.komkon.org refuses to oppen :-( Are there any problems with PUG site???
Re: PAW - That Darn Ball!
Time to play catch up on my paw viewing.:-) Nice shot Shel. I love the boys expression and wide eyes. The clotthes in the background really helps break up the brighht sky. 'Nother one well done. Dave It's that ball again ... it's appeared in so many photos of the kids from the old neighborhood in San Francisco. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/paw/boy_with_ball.html As always, comments, criticisms, and the tossing of tomatoes are welcome. Shel Belinkoff
Re: PAW - Snack Time
-Original Message- From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, the girl's expression and the way she's clutching her money is priceless, whatever is being shopped for! Ditto. It was the first thing that I saw in the shot. Nice grab. Christian
Re: PUG is down???
on 19.05.04 16:50, Daniel J. Matyola at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This month's PUG is at: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04may/ You can go to the PUG Form to see the upcoming themes: http://oksne.net/autopug/PUGform.asp The theme for June is cliche. Thanks! It seems that I am outdated lately ;-))) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Pentax Signpost
Hi, I`ve updated my website and the Pentax Signpost. The biggest update was moving to GoLive 6 for easier future updates. I hope you will find the link-lists useful and would be glad if you inform me about broken or missing links. www.mycroft.de Cheers, Heiko
RE: PAW - There heeere..
-Original Message- From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id16.html http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/cicada.jpg These things for real? They look like props from Judge Dredd. Yep they are real. about 3 inches long and in densities of 500,000 - 1,000,000 per acre. My co-workers complain about how hard it is to walk in some areas without crunching over their bodies or discarded exoskeletons. Cars can skid out of control on their bodies. The noise can be deafening as well as they woo their mates. Imagine spending 17 years underground sucking tree roots and then only having a few weeks to mate. and then you die Christian
Re: Future Practicality of Film
William Robb wrote: ...And the truth is, when enough of them have bought enough digital cameras, and are no longer feeding Max 400 into their point and shoots, film will go away. - It almost makes me feel it my duty to get a 67II. :) Seriously folks, I think Mr. Robb is likely correct. There doesn't need to be a total demise of film users for film, as a practical device, to disappear. The key word is enough. There just has to be enough people not using it, enough film sales not being made, and enough film not being processed, and enough profit not being made, for the production lines to shut down. There was enough people not purchasing Oldsmobiles and Plymouths. Look at VHS over the last two years... in a couple more I think one will be hard pressed to find the movie they are looking for. Already stores are clearing out what used to be $20.00 retail for $5.99. DVD has taken over. Is there much difference between whether film goes away mostly as opposed to totally? I don't think so. It may never go away totally. But practically, it will be nonexistent in the lives of most people. Just like LP's. I haven't purchased a new LP since 1987 and wouldn't pay double or triple for vinyl now (though some may). When film selections are down to a handful, and we can't find the ones we like, will we keep shooting on film? I just wish I knew if that was coming this year, next year, or three years down the road. A side thought... it would be interesting though if film became the preferred archival method for digital. Tom C.
RE: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use
Wine goes in the front and in the bottom drawer... film is in the bottom door shelf. Tom C. From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 07:28:54 -0700 Last night, wading through all the off topic and inane messages and comments posted these past few days made me hungry, and I went downstairs for a snack. Upon opening the fridge, I realized that the shelves were not well organized. I tend to put things in just every which way. This got me to wondering about how other people store items in their refrigerators. Are they neat and organized, with dairy in one area, fruits and veggies in another, do they use dispensers for soft drinks and beer, and what do they use their crispers for? So, in the spirit of the recent threads, how do YOU organize your refrigerator? Do you wish for some feature that your fridge doesn't have, like an ice maker, or maybe a USB 2.0 or Firewire connection? Does anyone have a digital refrigerator, and, if so, can you store film in it? Maybe some refrigerator photos would be in order. Let's see what's inside yours, or maybe just a snap or two of all the things tacked up on the doors magnets, photos, kid's drawings, diet reminders. Shel Belinkoff
Re[2]: *ist D sensor and 35mm lens resolution
Hello Rob, Wednesday, March 10, 2004, 1:34:44 AM, you wrote: RS On 9 Mar 2004 at 18:24, J. C. O'Connell wrote: Oh no, very mistaken! Yes of course a 14mp FF sensor will be better than a 6Mp FF sensor in terms of resolution, but a 6MP FF sensor is DEFINATELY better than a 6MP APS sensor, not only will the image be sharper due to lens limitations, the FF image will be less noiser due to larger pixel area. The only downside to FF vs. APS for a given Mp is cost. RS John, you're not listening, many of us are very happy with the noise RS performance and latitude afforded by our puny APS sized 6MP sensors, many of us RS however would like full frame coverage. The cost is mainly a function of the RS substrate size not the density, CCD sensors of any density have huge structures RS compared with most any other type of VLSI semiconductor in production. In other RS words the cost to produce a 6MP or 14MP FF sensor is going to be similar. RS Rob Studdert RS HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA RS Tel +61-2-9554-4110 RS UTC(GMT) +10 Hours RS [EMAIL PROTECTED] RS http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ RS Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- Best regards, Haroldmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trolls
Oh, he's an evangelistic believer/preacher, once tied up with the 7th Day Adventists in some way. I'd rather not say any more about him than that. Visit Google. They have a LOT of things to say about that man. Make up your own mind. keith whaley Bob Blakely wrote: Good question. I don't know who Herbert is or why it came out of my keyboard. Edwin Armstrong Inventor of FM modulation. http://www.oldradio.com/archives/people/armstrong.htm Regards, Bob...
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
So rm -rf / wipes your whole hard drive. If you have the permissions to do it. Because the exploit actually opens a terminal, it could theoretically do this, but note that the guy could not get a command with spaces to work. I have ideas for possible easy ways around this, though. The article I saw mentioned a couple of straightforward workarounds. On Mac OS X, only the root user can do this, and the root user isn't even enabled by default. Administrator users have limited root-like powers but you need to enter your password each time you try to do anything potentially damaging. Anyone can *try* rm -rf / The root user would succeed in deleting everything. A regular user wouldn't be able to delete the OS itself, but would be able to wipe out all their own data files. That's devastating enough :-( Now this AppleHelp service... I don't think its a service in the same terms as file sharing, ftp access or remote login. It certainly isn't listed in my services panel (under Sharing in the system preferences). So if it can be disabled, it might not be a trivial thing to do. I'm just going to wait for Apple to release a patch, and get on with my life :) That seems like the approriate course of action.
Re: Trolls
I can only add pervert to the list Keith Whaley wrote: Oh, he's an evangelistic believer/preacher, once tied up with the 7th Day Adventists in some way. I'd rather not say any more about him than that. Visit Google. They have a LOT of things to say about that man. Make up your own mind. Bob Blakely wrote: Good question. I don't know who Herbert is or why it came out of my keyboard. Edwin Armstrong Inventor of FM modulation. http://www.oldradio.com/archives/people/armstrong.htm
Re: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use
In a message dated 5/19/2004 7:31:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe some refrigerator photos would be in order. Let's see what's inside yours, or maybe just a snap or two of all the things tacked up on the doors magnets, photos, kid's drawings, diet reminders. Shel Belinkoff Sorry, shel, a refrigerator is a pretty private thing. Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: Future Practicality of Film
This same friend now has an Epson RX500 print/scanner/etc. She took one of her files, sharpened and adjusted, and printed an 8.5 x 11 inch. I must admit that it's really good, easily good enough to matte and hang on the wall. She is thrilled with the result. In her case, she's bright enough to figure out how to do the basic PS adjustments (she's actually using the included Nikon software, which is more basic than PS elements). With the 5700, the software and her printer she suddenly has these amazing photographic capabilities. There's no real film equivalent of this system for color. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/04 07:19PM about a month ago, i spent a weekend scanning and cataloging about 10 rolls of Provia that i had marked up with selects and file copies. shooting with the same lenses, i get noticeably sharper images with my *istD than with Provia. the fine detail is still there in the film, but it's fine detail full of noise with too much film grain. i complained about it when i was using my Nikon Coolpix 5000 (which has the same sensor as the 5700) but it has enough sensor noise to make the images less noticeably different. the *istD is much less noisy. the only lens i own where the slide shots are consistently sharper than my *istD is my FA 50/2.8 macro, but only when i shoot Velvia. Herb - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Future Practicality of Film And, of course, the 6 MP cameras work well enough for many folks since many did not take full advantage of the resolution available in 35 mm. My friend who just bought a Nikon 5700 is very pleased with her 5 MP images. She did, however, borrow a CF card from me and was astonished by the sharpness of one of my images still on the card. The difference was mainly the FA20-35, however, not that extra MP.
Re: OT, strange(longish) tale of eBay purchase
Kewl story. Even though some complain, I love ebay. Really. It's the biggest garage sale in the world, and garage sales can be fun. With unexpected bonuses. Enjoy the camera! Marnie aka Doe
RE: PAW - There heeere..
-Original Message- From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id16.html Cool. Got this one on the way out of a church last weekend - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/cicada.jpg I was hoping he was laying in wait for the bride, but he let her go... thanks tom. I'm still waiting for a picture of a bride with half a dozen cicadas perched on her vail! Christian
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Yes. I am English and english is my first language. Born and bred in good old London, UK. As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:45, Henri Toivonen wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Hi Henri, not sure if english is your first language. Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Windows is indeed the current standard OS for computing in many areas. Antonio Hello Antonio, english is not my first language. But take a look at this, from my dictionary (Collins English Dictionary): Substandard - adj. - 1. Below an established or required standard, 2. another word for nonstandard. Is english your first language then? /Henri
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning of sub-standard was not as he had understood. As to this being a friendly group I would beg to differ with that assertion. There appear to be some very unfriendly people here from what I have seen. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: There is nothing wrong with Henri's command of the English language. We all understand him. This is a friendly and tolerant group. Try to fit in. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Hi Henri, not sure if english is your first language. Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Windows is indeed the current standard OS for computing in many areas.
Re[3]: *ist D sensor and 35mm lens resolution
Please ignore my previous message that was originated by my mail program! I am playing catch-up on over 7,000 odd messages and my mail reader program must have had a fit! Harryo
RE: GFM: Starting to Run into Big Bucks
It's a good job it's not being held in the UK! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll come with what I have, though I might get a cheapish fanny pack.
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Antonio Aparicio wrote: I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning of sub-standard was not as he had understood. As to this being a friendly group I would beg to differ with that assertion. There appear to be some very unfriendly people here from what I have seen. smile Oh, the folks here really _are_ quite friendly and tolerant, so long as you don't push any of their panic buttons. Of course, no-one knows what those buttons are, until you inadvertantly push one, so there you are. You can only learn about these sensitivity buttons through experience. Welcome to the Stepford camera list... keith whaley Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:46, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: There is nothing wrong with Henri's command of the English language. We all understand him. This is a friendly and tolerant group. Try to fit in. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Hi Henri, not sure if english is your first language. Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Windows is indeed the current standard OS for computing in many areas.
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
I wish that there was no need for that, but apparently there is. Most of the unfriendly comments have come from you, and many of the others are in response to you. Antonio Aparicio wrote: I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning of sub-standard was not as he had understood. As to this being a friendly group I would beg to differ with that assertion. There appear to be some very unfriendly people here from what I have seen.
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Antonio Aparicio wrote: Yes. I am English and english is my first language. Born and bred in good old London, UK. As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:45, Henri Toivonen wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Hi Henri, not sure if english is your first language. Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Windows is indeed the current standard OS for computing in many areas. Antonio Hello Antonio, english is not my first language. But take a look at this, from my dictionary (Collins English Dictionary): Substandard - adj. - 1. Below an established or required standard, 2. another word for nonstandard. Is english your first language then? /Henri Umm, now I don't get it. First you say that substandard doesn't mean below a standard, but infact it means just poor quality. And should not be confused with non-standard. And this time, you say that it was what you were saying all along. Is it just me or did you just change opinion? Lets recap: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Its amazing that a company with so so so much money at its disposal continues to put out such shoddy substandard products. Henri Toivonen wrote: Substandard? Maybe that's the wrong word for it. Windows IS the standard for operating systems. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Henri Toivonen wrote: Substandard - adj. - 1. Below an established or required standard, 2. another word for nonstandard. Antonio Aparicio wrote: As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. To me, this looks like you're trying to save face just because you were wrong and got beat in english by a foreigner that doesn't have english as his first language. /Henri
Re: Trolls
Please don't start a discussion of that crackpot theory. There are so many more worthy of being beatin' to death first... Cotty wrote: To summarize, Graywolf is basically saying that the list has exerted too much negative peer pressure on our dear Antonio. He came rampaging in like a bloody bull in a china shop. The gene pool always sorts itself out in the end. Heard of Gaia? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Future Practicality of Film
Well they are traditionalists, and they have promised one, (well sort of). Just remember there's always Cosina. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/18/2004 8:59:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's room for both, but will both survive? Hard to say in the long run. Perhaps the sun will explode before film disappears, or perhaps there will be an ominous announcement tomorrow putting to rest all this speculation. Shel Belinkoff -- Come on, shel, you know you'll go with a DSLR someday. Resistance is futile -- you *will* be absorbed. ;-) Interestingly, I opened the latest Outdoor Photographer today and found that Canon has released a new film camera. Okay, not a new, new one -- a reworking of one. Nevertheless it is a new one in a sense: the Elan 7n/7ne. So I wouldn't write off film cameras yet. And I wouldn't write off Pentax releasing another film camera, either. Marnie aka Doe
PAW: Trinidad Beach
This was taken walking along the beach just below the Trinidad lighthouse. There is a seal in the lower right hand corner, for those who care. I have played around with crops and haven't found any that improve the image for me. Comments welcome. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6809.htm Pentax *istD, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 LD, handheld, ISO 800, 1/3000, F8, manual focus Bruce
Re: Future Practicality of Film
What do the Whalers have to do with Schrooge anyway??? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ebeneezer Scrooge writes: Now, they are being told that digital is good enough. And, they are being told the truth. The truth is, a 2mp camera is good enough for most consumers. The truth is, they don't need to be a computer wizard to run the thing. The truth is, they don't even need a computer. And the truth is, when enough of them have bought enough digital cameras, and are no longer feeding Max 400 into their point and shoots, film will go away. William Robb Bah Humbug Mr Schrooge. Bob Marley Seems being dead has done wonders for Bob Marley's coherence.
Re: PAW: Trinidad Beach
I like seals.g I think its ok left in the shot,Bruce. Helps add something to the water. Is that mist behind the rocks or just very hazy. Nice shot BTW Dave This was taken walking along the beach just below the Trinidad lighthouse. There is a seal in the lower right hand corner, for those who care. I have played around with crops and haven't found any that improve the image for me. Comments welcome. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6809.htm Pentax *istD, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 LD, handheld, ISO 800, 1/3000, F8, manual focus Bruce
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
In Unix most services that do anything useful run with root permission. Herb Chong wrote: rm -rf / means delete all the files from your file system. it's unclear whether the service runs with root permission or not. if it does, then the delete will succeed. Herb... - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:06 AM Subject: Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ... No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* !
RE: Prime Lens Adventures
What do you have in the 300mm range?? -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Prime Lens Adventures Shawn K. wrote: Thanks Andy, I'm looking forward to my prime lens adventures. I have an SMCK 400mm f5.6 available if you are thinking of going for a long prime in your new adventures . Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: PAW: Trinidad Beach
Very nice. You caught the birds in really interesting poses. Bruce Dayton wrote: This was taken walking along the beach just below the Trinidad lighthouse. There is a seal in the lower right hand corner, for those who care. I have played around with crops and haven't found any that improve the image for me. Comments welcome. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6809.htm Pentax *istD, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 LD, handheld, ISO 800, 1/3000, F8, manual focus Bruce . -- Daniel J. Matyola (908)725-3322 fax:(908)707-0399 Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 78 Grove Street mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Somerville, NJ 08876 http://geocities.com/dmatyola/
Re: OT: Irony is alive and well ...
Root services are running at all times in Unix, a security hole allows an unautorized user to take over the service, that's what most of the security holes in Windows NT based systems are dealing with these days. There used to be several very large holes in UNIX so I don't doubt that there are more. Don't expect that a login is required to take over the service, the fact that it isn't required is what makes it a hole. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Yeah, given you would have to log on as root it sounds like a non issue - and loggin on as root is not something that is easy to do by mistake, nor would ever really need to do. Waiting to see what Apple has to say about it. As a normal user you would have to use sudo, which prompts for admin pasword, hence no big threat. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 13:58, graywolf wrote: It means remove (rm) recursively (-r) with a forced (-f) override of permissions all files starting with the root (/) directory. If run as root (systems administer) it will erase all the files on the filesystem. Sounds insane, but it allows remote upgrades over the network because it will leave the system running and you can restore the files from another server. All unix systems that I have seen do assume they are being administered by someone who knows what they are doing. That tends to go with the terriory of being a multiuser system. BTW, network connected unix systems should never be run as root except when being worked on. Always run from a user account. If someone can get into your system as root they can do anything they want with it from just about anywhere. BTW, does Apple tell you any of this? -- Cotty wrote: Hot on the heels of the assurances that OS/X is secure, and not susceptible to the same sorts of exploits Windows suffers from, comes the news that there's a gaping great hole in OS/X as shipped. Basically, the AppleHelp service can be used to execute an arbitrary shell-level script. (rm -rf /, anybody?) I'd suggest any OS/X users here might want to disable that service. John, can you put that into plain language for me? thx. rm -rf / means : make up some space on those quite-full disk, you'll problably need it. but also means: loose all your data and Operating System too. Personally I prefer rm -rf . that first delete your data. (to be sure) ;) on how to disable this service, i really don't know. I haven't a Mac. But mac is all about mouse, so there should be some option called AppleHelp (as Cotty suggested) somewhere. Cotty is suggesting to disable it, I don't know if there are any drawbacks. No - I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I need an idiot's guide here. Personally i might prefer rm -rf *if I iknew what the hell it was* ! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
RE: Refrigerator Organization and Use
Shel Belinkoff winds up the PDML with: Last night, wading through all the off topic and inane messages and comments posted these past few days made me hungry, and I went downstairs for a snack. Upon opening the fridge, I realized that the shelves were not well organized. I tend to put things in just every which way. This got me to wondering about how other people store items in their refrigerators. Are they neat and organized, with dairy in one area, fruits and veggies in another, do they use dispensers for soft drinks and beer, and what do they use their crispers for? So, in the spirit of the recent threads, how do YOU organize your refrigerator? Do you wish for some feature that your fridge doesn't have, like an ice maker, or maybe a USB 2.0 or Firewire connection? Does anyone have a digital refrigerator, and, if so, can you store film in it? Maybe some refrigerator photos would be in order. Let's see what's inside yours, or maybe just a snap or two of all the things tacked up on the doors magnets, photos, kid's drawings, diet reminders. LOL! Thanks Shel. Malcolm PS - Fridges have 3 sections; Colour, BW and slide. Food in the fridge (?), kind of kinky that is. If you want something to store food in, buy a cat or dog :-)
Re: PAW06: Child's play
-Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the rain (Spoleto again!): http://www.dariobonazza.com/paw/paw06e.htm Dario, I hate you! What a wonderful shot. A dull, dreary picture with this splash of color and movement. Nicely captured. Christian
Re: Squirrel pictures
Just one more http://www.mindspring.com/~palling/photography/gallery7/photographs/Squirl1.jpg Dario Bonazza wrote: Here's another one: http://www.dariobonazza.com/essex/essex01.jpg Dario - Original Message - From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:12 PM Subject: Sorry to hear that Bob. Damn Bob, that sucks. Here, have this squirrel: http://www.bluehorizon3d.com/PDML/squirrel3.jpg -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? Gee... I'm sorry to be living, Peter... Have a great day. Regards, Bob... From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh jeze, somebody woke up Bob... Bob Blakely wrote:
Re: PAW: Trinidad Beach
On my monitor the seals head looks like a rock, What makes the photo for me is the bird with it's wings out spread on top of the rock. Bruce Dayton wrote: This was taken walking along the beach just below the Trinidad lighthouse. There is a seal in the lower right hand corner, for those who care. I have played around with crops and haven't found any that improve the image for me. Comments welcome. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp6809.htm Pentax *istD, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 LD, handheld, ISO 800, 1/3000, F8, manual focus Bruce
OT 8-) Wasting film on birds
Hi, purple Just been mowing the lawn in a glorious, early summer evening. Gazing westward, I noticed against the setting sun a small flock of house martins (Delichon urbica) skimming over the stand of Sycamore trees (Acer sp) feeding on the hatching insects. /purple Legging inside, I brought out the Z1-p, AF1.7 and Tamron 90mm. 100ASA slide film. Touch of overexposure. Did I get any good pictures? Did I pills - and I don't mean lager. They were just too fast to keep up with. A whole film gone and I'm sure that there will be nothing on it worth looking at, although I'll process it anyway. The camera could keep in focus but I couldn't get the moment right. _Much_ harder than black grouse. Looking out of the window, I see the little, feathered sods are back. Dilemma: do I try again or just enjoy the sight? Got any spare barn owls, Cotty? mike
Re: OT 8-) Wasting film on birds
90mm and a 1.7x TC... 153mm... for birds? Christian -Original Message- From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 19, 2004 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT 8-) Wasting film on birds Hi, purple Just been mowing the lawn in a glorious, early summer evening. Gazing westward, I noticed against the setting sun a small flock of house martins (Delichon urbica) skimming over the stand of Sycamore trees (Acer sp) feeding on the hatching insects. /purple Legging inside, I brought out the Z1-p, AF1.7 and Tamron 90mm. 100ASA slide film. Touch of overexposure. Did I get any good pictures? Did I pills - and I don't mean lager. They were just too fast to keep up with. A whole film gone and I'm sure that there will be nothing on it worth looking at, although I'll process it anyway. The camera could keep in focus but I couldn't get the moment right. _Much_ harder than black grouse. Looking out of the window, I see the little, feathered sods are back. Dilemma: do I try again or just enjoy the sight? Got any spare barn owls, Cotty? mike
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Henri, I have said all along that Windows is a sub-standard OS. i.e. a poor quality one. I have not changed my mind on this matter, nor have I said otherwise. Below an established or required standard IS poor quality in English. It was you who attempted to shift the meaning to non-standard, as your quotes clearly show, and which I have now corrected you on. All the best, Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 18:19, Henri Toivonen wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Yes. I am English and english is my first language. Born and bred in good old London, UK. As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 15:45, Henri Toivonen wrote: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Hi Henri, not sure if english is your first language. Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Windows is indeed the current standard OS for computing in many areas. Antonio Hello Antonio, english is not my first language. But take a look at this, from my dictionary (Collins English Dictionary): Substandard - adj. - 1. Below an established or required standard, 2. another word for nonstandard. Is english your first language then? /Henri Umm, now I don't get it. First you say that substandard doesn't mean below a standard, but infact it means just poor quality. And should not be confused with non-standard. And this time, you say that it was what you were saying all along. Is it just me or did you just change opinion? Lets recap: Antonio Aparicio wrote: Its amazing that a company with so so so much money at its disposal continues to put out such shoddy substandard products. Henri Toivonen wrote: Substandard? Maybe that's the wrong word for it. Windows IS the standard for operating systems. Antonio Aparicio wrote: Substandar basically means poor quality. I think the term you are confusing it with is non-standard, which of course is not the case as you have pointed out. Henri Toivonen wrote: Substandard - adj. - 1. Below an established or required standard, 2. another word for nonstandard. Antonio Aparicio wrote: As you can see in the dictionary the main meaning of sub-standard is below an established or required standard. To me, this looks like you're trying to save face just because you were wrong and got beat in english by a foreigner that doesn't have english as his first language. /Henri
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly. You however seem to have made quite a few unfriendly remarks. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 18:09, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I wish that there was no need for that, but apparently there is. Most of the unfriendly comments have come from you, and many of the others are in response to you. Antonio Aparicio wrote: I beg your pardon. There was no need for that. I was merely pointing out to Henri that the main meaning of sub-standard was not as he had understood. As to this being a friendly group I would beg to differ with that assertion. There appear to be some very unfriendly people here from what I have seen.
Re: Trolls
Lets hope there is a good selection of genes out there with all those viruses around. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 18:24, Peter J. Alling wrote: Please don't start a discussion of that crackpot theory. There are so many more worthy of being beatin' to death first... Cotty wrote: To summarize, Graywolf is basically saying that the list has exerted too much negative peer pressure on our dear Antonio. He came rampaging in like a bloody bull in a china shop. The gene pool always sorts itself out in the end. Heard of Gaia? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use
Hi, store film in it? Maybe some refrigerator photos would be in order. Let's see what's inside yours, or maybe just a snap or two of all the things tacked up on the doors magnets, photos, kid's drawings, diet reminders. Mine's digital - I keep fish fingers in it. In fact, mine is very tidy. It's connected to my local supermarket http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Debate/Sustainable_2829.html via the internet. It creates a shopping list for me which I can download as I leave work, and go directly to the aisle. The shopping list is arranged by product in aisle sequence for maximum picking efficiency. Included with the picking list is a schematic which dictates how the packer should arrange the goods in the shopping bags, so that when I later unpack them at home my fridge is optimally packed according to a space-filling constraint logic program that I coded for it. If the packer has not filled the bags according to instructions then the fridge is able to detect my necessarily out-of-sequence unpacking, and correct it. At the same time it interfaces in real-time with the supermarket's payroll system and sends negative feedback to the packer's performance-related pay records so he or she can regret their poor packing skills in the next pay packet - a worthwhile incentivisation. Most of them are semi-retired people who frittered their money during their youth, rather than save for a pension, so there is a satisfying moral aspect to this, too. Besides, old people don't have a lot to spend their money on. Anyway, here's my very manly fridge: http://www.web-options.com/fridge.jpg Film, beer, champagne and carrots. I did have some tongue in cheek in there, but I took it out to nibble on while I write this. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Future Practicality of Film
Now you are being threatening. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 02:07, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: Future Practicality of Film And you sir are being abusive. You haven't seen abuse directed at you yet. William Robb
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.95.133.170] X-Declude-Spoolname: Db15e0e8.SMD I have no problem with your opinions. Some of your comments to others have been a bit unfriendly. I have said nothing unfriendly to you, but have merely requested that you be a little less strident in your posts to this list. Thank you for your cooperation. Antonio Aparicio wrote: I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly. You however seem to have made quite a few unfriendly remarks. Antonio
RE: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use
You should pitch that idea to someone, you know the internet grocery thing is taking off for the second time. And pundits are saying that this time it is here to stay. -Shawn -Original Message- From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use Hi, store film in it? Maybe some refrigerator photos would be in order. Let's see what's inside yours, or maybe just a snap or two of all the things tacked up on the doors magnets, photos, kid's drawings, diet reminders. Mine's digital - I keep fish fingers in it. In fact, mine is very tidy. It's connected to my local supermarket http://www.architecture.com/go/Architecture/Debate/Sustainable_2829.html via the internet. It creates a shopping list for me which I can download as I leave work, and go directly to the aisle. The shopping list is arranged by product in aisle sequence for maximum picking efficiency. Included with the picking list is a schematic which dictates how the packer should arrange the goods in the shopping bags, so that when I later unpack them at home my fridge is optimally packed according to a space-filling constraint logic program that I coded for it. If the packer has not filled the bags according to instructions then the fridge is able to detect my necessarily out-of-sequence unpacking, and correct it. At the same time it interfaces in real-time with the supermarket's payroll system and sends negative feedback to the packer's performance-related pay records so he or she can regret their poor packing skills in the next pay packet - a worthwhile incentivisation. Most of them are semi-retired people who frittered their money during their youth, rather than save for a pension, so there is a satisfying moral aspect to this, too. Besides, old people don't have a lot to spend their money on. Anyway, here's my very manly fridge: http://www.web-options.com/fridge.jpg Film, beer, champagne and carrots. I did have some tongue in cheek in there, but I took it out to nibble on while I write this. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: OT: Refrigerator Organization and Use
The outside is quite neat and orderly. That could indicate that there is not enough beer on the inside. wendy beard wrote: Do you think I'd let complete strangers see inside my fridge! It's as (dis)organised as the rest of the houseand as clean. Here's a shot of the outside instead. http://www.beard-redfern.com/tmp/fridge.jpg
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Yeah right. You think you have not said anything unfriendly, what about when you said: Would everyone please just ignore him until he calms down or goes away or perhaps This is a friendly and tolerant group. Try to fit in. You seem to enjoy throwing stones from he sidelines. Antonio On 19 May 2004, at 21:15, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [66.95.133.170] X-Declude-Spoolname: Db15e0e8.SMD I have no problem with your opinions. Some of your comments to others have been a bit unfriendly. I have said nothing unfriendly to you, but have merely requested that you be a little less strident in your posts to this list. Thank you for your cooperation. Antonio Aparicio wrote: I may have argued an opinion that has not found widespread approval here on this list but I believe I have no been unfriendly. You however seem to have made quite a few unfriendly remarks. Antonio
