Re: PESO The graduate
Hello Rob, I quite like this one. The 20mm gives it a real strong, conquer the world kind of look. Very fitting for graduation. Nice shot! -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 8, 2005, 3:05:30 PM, you wrote: RS Hi Team, RS One of many very rushed shots from yesterday, my baby sis's graduation: RS http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP2123BW.jpg (~61kB) RS Tech: *ist D, ISO200, 1/125s, Prog, Multi-seg metering, A20/2.8 @ f3.5, hand RS held RS All comments and questions welcome (and yes she is an Art's graduate :-) RS Cheers, RS Rob (who has a PESO/PAW folder of over 260 messages he's trying to work RS through)
Re: PESO: Yellow Rumped Warbler
Very nice shot - but I can see what you mean about the crop. Seems a bit too much. I can relate to only having a 400mm at the long end. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 8, 2005, 7:45:30 PM, you wrote: PS Checked this one in my bird book. I think I have him identified PS correctly. It's with the *istD at ISO 800, f11 @ 1000, fill from the PS Sigma 500DG Super flash. I could have gone to ISO 400 on this one, but PS most bird shots are in open shade, so I usually keep the camera at 800 PS when walking through the woods. This is about a 2X crop, so you'll see PS some digital noise. As Herb pointed out earlier today, a 400 is a bit PS short for shooting shy little birds in the wild. But it's still fun. At PS the highest interpolation level from the Adobe RAW converter I end up PS with about a 40meg image after crop. That still makes the minimum PS resolution for my stock house, but I'd like to do better. PS Anyway, enough talk. It's here: PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3265548size=lg
Re: How do you keep track of exposed film?
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer Subject: How do you keep track of exposed film? S...how do others keep track of rolls through the lab? Is there some way to quickly and indelibly mark the leader? Take a picture of the film ID you are assigning it on the first frame. William Robb
Re: GESO - California Poppies
Thanks Mark. Yes they are wild flowers. They grow natively many places here in California. Sometimes I have seen entire hillsides covered in them - quite a sight. -- Bruce Friday, April 8, 2005, 8:22:37 PM, you wrote: MC Nice work, Bruce - beautiful shots. Are these wild flowers? All the poppies MC over here are garden varieties. MC - MCC MC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MC Mark Cassino Photography MC Kalamazoo, MI MC www.markcassino.com MC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MC - Original Message - MC From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] MC To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net MC Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:32 PM MC Subject: GESO - California Poppies The state flower of California is the poppy. They bloom once a year so there is a short opportunity to see and photograph them. On my recent morning walks they have been out and I have been taking pictures when conditions were good. I felt that there were more than would be worth showing as a string of PESO's, so here is a little gallery. View if you are so inclined: http://www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/Poppies/index.htm Comments always welcome. -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: GESO - California Poppies
No fish there - the water droplets are real. These are exactly as found in their natural state. Early morning this time of year has quite a bit of dew that settles on the flowers. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 8, 2005, 9:16:45 PM, you wrote: KK Missed the OP. KK On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Kenneth Waller wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:32 PM Subject: GESO - California Poppies http://www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/Poppies/index.htm KK I saw very few, but liked 1436 and 1590 (which may benefit from some KK cropping). 1383 is nice composition (though again I might try cropping KK to put them on/close to either third), but is there something fishy KK about the water drops? KK Thanks for sharing, KK Kostas
Re: PESO The graduate
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: PESO The graduate Hi Team, One of many very rushed shots from yesterday, my baby sis's graduation: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP2123BW.jpg (~61kB) BRAVO! William Robb
Re: OT: The Older Man - was: PESO: Here's my Mannequinr
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: OT: The Older Man - was: PESO: Here's my Mannequinr On 8/4/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: The Titan is a five gear tranny, but the engine puts out in excess of 300HP, whoa, nice truck! Got any pics? I'll send some in a day or two. Wanna wash it first William Robb
Pentax ist DS shutter.
Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. Thanx. Johan. (Great camera, especially with an 50mm 1.7 A :-) )
RE: PAW PESO - Interpretation
-Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/senior/bw2.html More impact and what the hell is going on factor in the new versions. I really like it. -- Peter Williams
RE: PAW PESO - Interpretation
-Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It moves the photo to a much more expressive, graphic space. Does it ever :-) -- Peter Williams
Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
Johan Uiterwijk Winkel wrote: Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It's mechanical. If you do take it apart, be sure to post some photos of the innards to the list! :-) S
Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
Steve Jolly wrote: Johan Uiterwijk Winkel wrote: Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It's mechanical. That nice. At least there's something between the big dusty world outside and the CCD :-) If you do take it apart, be sure to post some photos of the innards to the list! :-) Not today, tooo much dust in the room.. And hopefully also not in the near future. While searching for the details of a mechanical shutter, the only thing I cam across about the innerworks of this camera was http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0914/pentax107.jpg . And that did not show the thing I needed ... But when I do, I'll send them. (Ofcource, the photo's are then taken with a low budget digicam) S Johan.
RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.
-Original Message- From: Johan Uiterwijk Winkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It has a normal focal plane shutter. They are required with the dslr type sensors. -- Peter Williams
Re: CR1/3N / DL1/3N / 5008LC / K58L / 2L76 Battery 3V
Not only that but you get a free bar of chocolate with every order. At least, that's what arrived this morning. Big tick and a star from me. Never could resist a free bar of chocolate :) Fruit nut by any chance? John
Re: PESO: I'm watching you
Hi Gonz The detailed pic doesn't add anything the original is a much better photo, even with its flaws. BTW, have you tried running the pic through Noise Ninja or Neat Image? Shel [Original Message] From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 4/8/2005 10:36:08 PM Subject: Re: PESO: I'm watching you Thanks Shel for your input. Here is a closer crop (@ 200%) in its original state: http://www.g0nz.com/images/sleepy3.jpg I played around with it alot trying to get the crop + the detail that I wanted to convey. But alas, what I really needed was a longer and brighter lens. A 135/2.5 would have been nice in this case. The grain from the high iso really obscures what would have been a much better pic.
Re: DG lenses
i've been eyeing the 500/4.5 and the 800/5.6 for a while. the 500 is available in Pentax mount, at least. the 300-800/5.6 isn't. i hope that the 800/5.6 is. for small bird work, 800 on the *istD is just right. I think the 800/5.6 would be awesome, personally I'm trying to fill the gap in my present outfit needing a fast 200mm AF lens. I'm wondering if they'll work with film and digital. I still wish Tamron would produce a 70/80-200 f/2.8 to complement the 28-75 that's not been off my camera until the FA 35 f/2 arrived. I've even considered going for a 180 f/3.5 Macro John
Re: GESO - California Poppies
On 8/4/05, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: No fish there - the water droplets are real. These are exactly as found in their natural state. Early morning this time of year has quite a bit of dew that settles on the flowers. Well done. Didn't I read somewhere that spraying flowers with water does them some harm?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: DG lenses
John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been eyeing the 500/4.5 and the 800/5.6 for a while. the 500 is available in Pentax mount, at least. the 300-800/5.6 isn't. i hope that the 800/5.6 is. for small bird work, 800 on the *istD is just right. I think the 800/5.6 would be awesome, personally I'm trying to fill the gap in my present outfit needing a fast 200mm AF lens. I'm wondering if they'll work with film and digital. They will. Sigma's DG lenses are full-frame but optimized for digital (I'm as suspicious of this digital optimization as herb Keppler is.) Their digital-only (small image circle) lenses are designated DC. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT - I'm on strike tomorrow!
On 9/4/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis, discombobulated, unleashed: I was watching a Champions League game the other night. Every time the ball approached the box Icould hear a camera going tsk-tsk-tsk like there's no tomorrow. That's not photography, though it is photos alright that come out of the other end of the process. Hey Kostas, I'm not defending the practice, but if you were sat on the goal line and your mortgage depended on the shot, you'd be rattling off 8 FPS as well! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
On 9/4/05, Johan Uiterwijk Winkel, discombobulated, unleashed: But when I do, I'll send them. (Ofcource, the photo's are then taken with a low budget digicam) Do you mind if I ask why you are taking your Ds apart? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Auntie Brenda
On 8/4/05, Mat Maessen, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.matoe.org/pics/England2005/roll1/tn/005_3.JPG.html Taken on my trip to the UK last week for my grandmother's funeral, on the day of the funeral. Typical weather for the south of England this time of year. Canonet QL17, Fuji NPH, quick grab shot while having tea. Is 009_7 the Australian version? Love the cow in the hedge :-) New Forrest? Nice place. The weather last week was pretty bad. We even had a snow shower yesterday, with temps about 2 deg C. But today it's bright sunshine and 11C with tomorrow set to be 16, which is good as we're about to set off for a week to Cornwall, a place I've never been. Sorry to read about your grandmother. best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO The graduate
On 9/4/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi Team, One of many very rushed shots from yesterday, my baby sis's graduation: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP2123BW.jpg (~61kB) Awesome! That's graduation with attitude! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: DG lenses
They will. Sigma's DG lenses are full-frame but optimized for digital (I'm as suspicious of this digital optimization as herb Keppler is.) Their digital-only (small image circle) lenses are designated DC. Thanks Mark, the 70-200 is still definitely an option then. I'm not familiar with Keppler's opinion on digital optimization, would you care to elaborate or post a link to the article? John -- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 06:57:42 -0400 Subject: Re: DG lenses John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been eyeing the 500/4.5 and the 800/5.6 for a while. the 500 is available in Pentax mount, at least. the 300-800/5.6 isn't. i hope that the 800/5.6 is. for small bird work, 800 on the *istD is just right. I think the 800/5.6 would be awesome, personally I'm trying to fill the gap in my present outfit needing a fast 200mm AF lens. I'm wondering if they'll work with film and digital. They will. Sigma's DG lenses are full-frame but optimized for digital (I'm as suspicious of this digital optimization as herb Keppler is.) Their digital-only (small image circle) lenses are designated DC. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com --- End of Original Message ---
Re: DG lenses
John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will. Sigma's DG lenses are full-frame but optimized for digital (I'm as suspicious of this digital optimization as herb Keppler is.) Their digital-only (small image circle) lenses are designated DC. Thanks Mark, the 70-200 is still definitely an option then. I'm not familiar with Keppler's opinion on digital optimization, would you care to elaborate or post a link to the article? He's asked for examples of both old versions and digitally optimized version of the same lens, along with suggestions as to what kind of photo situations will best reveal the improvements of the optimization so that he can compare the differences. So far no manufacturer has taken him up on it. He has drawn a somewhat cynical (but probably accurate) conclusion from this ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: GESO - California Poppies
Bruce, Wonderful gallery! Some of the nicest photos I've seen. Keep taking walks... Regards, Bob S. On Apr 8, 2005 11:32 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The state flower of California is the poppy. They bloom once a year so there is a short opportunity to see and photograph them. On my recent morning walks they have been out and I have been taking pictures when conditions were good. I felt that there were more than would be worth showing as a string of PESO's, so here is a little gallery. View if you are so inclined: http://www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/Poppies/index.htm Comments always welcome. -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: A bit OT: Stones in My Pathway
Yefei He wrote: Hi, Folks, I just found this excellent photo gallery site by Bill Steber, documenting Mississippi hill country blues tradition, with audio! I just feel it has a great collection of photos and is very informative. And who knows, perhaps he used a Pentax:-) Cheers, Yefei And the URL is..?
Re: PESO - Auntie Brenda
Cotty wrote: On 8/4/05, Mat Maessen, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.matoe.org/pics/England2005/roll1/tn/005_3.JPG.html Taken on my trip to the UK last week for my grandmother's funeral, on the day of the funeral. Typical weather for the south of England this time of year. Canonet QL17, Fuji NPH, quick grab shot while having tea. Is 009_7 the Australian version? Love the cow in the hedge :-) You might find that that cow moos in a particularly deep voice. 8-) New Forrest? Nice place. The weather last week was pretty bad. We even had a snow shower yesterday, with temps about 2 deg C. But today it's bright sunshine and 11C with tomorrow set to be 16, which is good as we're about to set off for a week to Cornwall, a place I've never been. Been snowing on and off for the last two days here unlike Cornshire, where I was two weeks ago, with glorious early spring sunshine. Reccommend the Eden Project. See if you can do better with the Giant Killer Bee than I can. Sorry to read about your grandmother. Ditto. mike
Re: A bit OT: Stones in My Pathway
mike wilson wrote: Yefei He wrote: Hi, Folks, I just found this excellent photo gallery site by Bill Steber, documenting Mississippi hill country blues tradition, with audio! I just feel it has a great collection of photos and is very informative. And who knows, perhaps he used a Pentax:-) Cheers, Yefei And the URL is..? Belay that. Just spotted the changed header.
RE: DG lenses
Actually the only specific claim I've seen from Sigma is: Super Multi Layer (SML) coating reduces the ghost caused by reflections from the surface of digital image sensors. Assuming Pentax was wise enough to put an anti reflective coating on the filter in front of the CCD, this wasn't much of a challenge. ;-) In the case of the 50/2.8 Macro at least, the size and weight haven't changed at all. The letters DG and the price tag may be about the only difference. I went with a like new used EX for 1/2 the price of an EX DG. Been very pleased with it on the D. Don -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 6:33 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: DG lenses John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will. Sigma's DG lenses are full-frame but optimized for digital (I'm as suspicious of this digital optimization as herb Keppler is.) Their digital-only (small image circle) lenses are designated DC. Thanks Mark, the 70-200 is still definitely an option then. I'm not familiar with Keppler's opinion on digital optimization, would you care to elaborate or post a link to the article? He's asked for examples of both old versions and digitally optimized version of the same lens, along with suggestions as to what kind of photo situations will best reveal the improvements of the optimization so that he can compare the differences. So far no manufacturer has taken him up on it. He has drawn a somewhat cynical (but probably accurate) conclusion from this ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: CR1/3N / DL1/3N / 5008LC / K58L / 2L76 Battery 3V
John Whittingham wrote: Not only that but you get a free bar of chocolate with every order. At least, that's what arrived this morning. Big tick and a star from me. Never could resist a free bar of chocolate :) Fruit nut by any chance? Luckily, no. 8-) Just a small piece of rather nice Belgian plain. I'm not a fan of adulterated chocolate. Especially the ghastly confection called milk. m p.s batteries work fine in the LX at an overnight temp of approximately 0degrees C.
Re: CR1/3N / DL1/3N / 5008LC / K58L / 2L76 Battery 3V
p.s batteries work fine in the LX at an overnight temp of approximately 0degrees C. Quite impressed, I'll get round to ordering some today. John
Re: DG lenses
He's asked for examples of both old versions and digitally optimized version of the same lens, along with suggestions as to what kind of photo situations will best reveal the improvements of the optimization so that he can compare the differences. So far no manufacturer has taken him up on it. He has drawn a somewhat cynical (but probably accurate) conclusion from this ;-) Excellent! I'd really love to see a 105 Sigma EX tested against the newer digital version, or the Pentax FA 100 against the newer D-FA? Those lenses are so good to start with. John
RE: DG lenses
In the case of the 50/2.8 Macro at least, the size and weight haven't changed at all. The letters DG and the price tag may be about the only difference. I went with a like new used EX for 1/2 the price of an EX DG. Been very pleased with it on the D. I'm getting very sceptical now, the 50mm 2.8 EX is a fine lens, I'd really doubt there is more than perhaps a coating difference between the old and the new. I have the 105 EX and I'm very pleased with the results. John
Re: CR1/3N / DL1/3N / 5008LC / K58L / 2L76 Battery 3V
mw Luckily, no. 8-) Just a small piece of rather nice Belgian plain. I'm mw not a fan of adulterated chocolate. Especially the ghastly confection mw called milk. :-) 80% cocoa chocolate anyone? Seems like this list is full of connoiseurs. The only flavour I like in chocolate is chili. Try it some day, it's very interesting g (really). Good light! fra
RE: CR1/3N / DL1/3N / 5008LC / K58L / 2L76 Battery 3V
Sorry I like Milk Chocolate bet. That makes me a Chocolate kind of a sewer too! ;-) Don -Original Message- From: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:34 AM To: mike wilson Subject: Re: CR1/3N / DL1/3N / 5008LC / K58L / 2L76 Battery 3V mw Luckily, no. 8-) Just a small piece of rather nice Belgian plain. I'm mw not a fan of adulterated chocolate. Especially the ghastly confection mw called milk. :-) 80% cocoa chocolate anyone? Seems like this list is full of connoiseurs. The only flavour I like in chocolate is chili. Try it some day, it's very interesting g (really). Good light! fra
Re: DG lenses
John Whittingham wrote: I've even considered going for a 180 f/3.5 Macro It seems like a very nice lens optically. Build I could live with. Lack of a Pentax mount I couldn't (-: Now Tamron's old adaptall 180/2.5 - well that would be another one to drool over in an AF reincarnation. Cheers, David
Re: PESO - Auntie Brenda
Cotty, Cornwall is a great place. Take a lng walk on the Coastal Path for me, and remember to post lots of pix! Rick Cotty wrote: The weather last week was pretty bad. We even had a snow shower yesterday, with temps about 2 deg C. But today it's bright sunshine and 11C with tomorrow set to be 16, which is good as we're about to set off for a week to Cornwall, a place I've never been. __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
Digital Cleaning Kit Price
Has anyone seen a better price on this kit? http://tinyurl.com/52pbk I was a very bad boy this morning and cleaned my sensor filter with a cotton swab and breath. It worked fine but don't want to make a habit of it. Plus the mirror is streaked and the way it is coated it's probably way easier to damage than the filter. Don
Re: Pos vs neg grain
Thanks Mark, Your answer is appreciated. In the past, producing color separations was the reason given by editors/publishers for preferring slide film. I gather that is no longer true. In my case, print film work flow is preferred due it's exposure latitude as well as the local availability of C-41 over E-6 processors. I am, however, among those who salivate in anticipation of reviewing slides on a light box with a quality loupe. Jack --- Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a lab owner emphatically contend that..positive film of the same ISO has finer grain than negative film. Didn't address bw. It's been a couple of years since I've made much use of 35mm films, so take this with a grain of salt In general, slow transparency film is less grainy than negative film. A good ISO 100 or 50 slide film will usually beat even the best ISO 100 negative film. At ISO 200, some transparency films hold their own, but most are as grainy or worse than print film. At ISO 400 print films generally beat slide, with the exception of Fuji's Provia 400 which seems to match or beat most ISO 400 negative films. You have to consider several factors when deciding slide vs print film. In the past, work flow issues drove a lot of people to slide film, just as work flow issues drive a lot of people to digital. For printers and publishers slide film was a what you see if what you get set up, so it was easier to work with and therefore more in demand for publication photography. Digital is even better in the workflow department, and a lot of the reasons for shooting digital are workflow, rather than image quality, related. Print film also has much greater exposure latitude than slide film. This was more or less a mute point with legacy processing, where the color photo paper had latitude more or less on par with slide film. But with scanning, that increase in latitude can be a real boon. We happened to be reviewing a bw print at the time and their existed a situation wherein the subject couldn't be pursued (customers waiting). I've since emailed him for a follow-up on his recommendation that bw film be scanned as positive film. I scan all my BW film as positive and then reverse it in Photoshop. For me, that is simply a way of circumventing some of the brain dead adjustments that the scanning software makes to the image. I also push the histogram end points out so nothing is clipped and all detail is captured. It would seem that a properly configured scanning program would be able to handle BW film as BW. Vuescan does a pretty good job in that regard. But both the software with my Canon scanner and Epson flat bed really clip the histogram and screw up contrast when scanning BW negs when set for BW negs. When scanning as slide film both softwares seem to make minimal - or no - adjustments - leaving the screwing up part to me. :-0 FWIW - traditional BW is a whole nother mindset than either slide film or color neg (or digital). With all of the latter there is pretty tight range of exposure at which the film will work. Yes, you can push or pull slide film or color negs, and you can adjust the exposure of a digital RAW file considerably, but with traditional BW you have really broad latitude to push or pull the film via development, and can then tweak it a lot in scanning and printing. I use some old, toy, and/or junk cameras with fixed shutter speeds and F-stops, and control exposure entirely through development of the neg. It's amazing how far you can take things when you get creative with BW chemistry - time, temperature, and agitation are all things that you can modify to control development. MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost
Well, I finally got a digital, though it's a Optio S5i. An *ist D, or its successor, is still in my future, but we're spending a bit of money on racing right now, so camera funds are scarce. :-) In celebration of finally getting a digital of some sort, here's my first PESO. http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost
Neat shot Doug, must be one of those Leafus Nurturus trees! ;-) Camera does a great job. Don -Original Message- From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 9:11 AM To: PDML Subject: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost Well, I finally got a digital, though it's a Optio S5i. An *ist D, or its successor, is still in my future, but we're spending a bit of money on racing right now, so camera funds are scarce. :-) In celebration of finally getting a digital of some sort, here's my first PESO. http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: April PUG (looooong)
You have to get close. frank theriault wrote: On Apr 5, 2005 10:03 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Frank, Black Towers: Cool. Gotta get me a fisheye someday...snip Thanks, Rick. Yup, the fisheye is a fun lens. I have find a way to get more people in there - it's just that the people are so small with that lens! vbg Thanks for the comment, both on my photo and the whole gallery. cheers, frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: first PESO - last of winter?
Thanks for your answers and comments, I just saw the the subject during a walk with the Mrs, so I didn't take that much time for composing. I hope to get a better scan to re-post this picture, porbably this will happen next winter... pancho
Re: PESO - Auntie Brenda
On 9/4/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Reccommend the Eden Project. See if you can do better with the Giant Killer Bee than I can. One of the reason's we're going. My lad was ill when his school went on a trip there a couple of months ago. I just like being near the sea. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Auntie Brenda
On 9/4/05, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Cornwall is a great place. Take a lng walk on the Coastal Path for me, and remember to post lots of pix! Thanks Rick, I will. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost
On 9/4/05, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, I finally got a digital, though it's a Optio S5i. An *ist D, or its successor, is still in my future, but we're spending a bit of money on racing right now, so camera funds are scarce. :-) In celebration of finally getting a digital of some sort, here's my first PESO. http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html Doug Does Digital ;-) Nice one mate. Like it. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: DG lenses
It seems like a very nice lens optically. Build I could live with. Lack of a Pentax mount I couldn't Damn no Pentax mount, I remember having to wait for Sigma to make the 300 f/4 APO in Pentax fit. The release of the MZ-5 did the trick IIRC. John
Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
On Apr 9, 2005, at 12:35 AM, Peter Williams wrote: Before taking apart my ist DS, I am wondering if this digital body containts a mechanical shutter, or is it just firing up some electronics during the exposure time. It has a normal focal plane shutter. They are required with the dslr type sensors. Nearly all digital cameras have a mechanical shutter. Only very simple cameras rely upon capture timing with the sensor alone. Godfrey
Re: GESO - California Poppies
Bob, You are most kind. Sometimes those walks don't end up being very strenuous - due to the picture taking, but oh well... -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 9, 2005, 4:24:03 AM, you wrote: BS Bruce, BS Wonderful gallery! Some of the nicest photos I've seen. Keep taking walks... BS Regards, Bob S. BS On Apr 8, 2005 11:32 AM, Bruce Dayton BS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The state flower of California is the poppy. They bloom once a year so there is a short opportunity to see and photograph them. On my recent morning walks they have been out and I have been taking pictures when conditions were good. I felt that there were more than would be worth showing as a string of PESO's, so here is a little gallery. View if you are so inclined: http://www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/Poppies/index.htm Comments always welcome. -- Best regards, Bruce
Missing...
In case anyone wonders why I haven't been on the list of late, I had a paying gig for most of the last two weeks that kept me busy and out of touch, then my Win2K server decided to go tits up. (Near as I can tell the mother board is completely fried). Since it was the only machine that could be connected to the internet, for various technical reasons, I was SOL. I've reconfigured and I'm now off to find a replacement MB. I've got 5588 messages in my mailbox... -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: How do you keep track of exposed film?
Rick, I found that the fixing bath is aggressive enough to delete any permanent marker. If lab's cooperation is not an option I suppose you can always mechanically stamp your rolls by punching some holes. Just make sure you it's not on the first 5 cm which the lab usually cuts. BTW, do you send the rolls by mail or do you deliver it yourself? Personal contact makes people more responsible. Servus, Alin Rick wrote: RW The problem: I send my slide film out for processing RW (to The Slideprinter) about 5 rolls at a time. I RW number the rolls, and ask the lab to note the roll RW numbers on the slide boxes. Sometimes that happens, RW and sometimes not. Last year I came back from a trip RW with 15 exposed rolls, and the boxes came back with no RW numbers, which was a real pain. RW S...how do others keep track of rolls through the RW lab? Is there some way to quickly and indelibly mark RW the leader? RW Don't anyone bother to tell me to switch to an MZ-S or RW istD/DS! RW Rick
Re: Pos vs neg grain
Jack, In absolute terms, the negative emulsions have finer grain than positive. Indeed, Agfa's best negative, Portrait 160 with it's granularity of RMS 3.5 is obviously better than the RMS 10 of their best positive - RSX 50. The difference maintains more or less at all other manufacturers. In real world though, the thicker layers of the positive emulsion accounts for higher densities that translate to finer gradations in all three colour channels. This comes at the expense of the reduced exposure range compared to the negative emulsion, but given a subject whose exposure range is covered by the positive emulsion latitude, the positive delivers a richer image than the negative and the continuity of tones hide its higher granulation giving the overall better appearance. In the digital era, this becomes even more obvious with the post processing level of the scanned image: the lack of tones of the negative emulsion image is immediately apparent as noise, sometimes after as little as level adjustment and curve manipulation to open the shadows. Despite its smaller grain, the noise gives the negative film the contrary appearance. In my limited experience, the only negative film that comes close to various positives (like Provia 100F, CT Precisa 100, RSX 100, etc.) in terms of rich image in tones is the Kodak RG50. Too bad it became obsolete. [Flame disclaimer: note that I don't discuss other criteria like exposure latitude, colour linearity, etc.; it's not the end of the world if I cannot capture all the subject's details, to me a good picture should also suggest, not just depict). Servus, Alin Jack wrote: JD I had a lab owner emphatically contend that..positive JD film of the same ISO has finer grain than negative JD film. Didn't address bw. JD We happened to be reviewing a bw print at the time JD and their existed a situation wherein the subject JD couldn't be pursued (customers waiting). JD I've since emailed him for a follow-up on his JD recommendation that bw film be scanned as positive JD film. JD If his answer (if received) is at all decipherable, JD I'll forward it. JD Does anyone know or suspect what he may be talking JD about? JD I've, also, read the RMS charts but, their results JD don't appear to be comparable. JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: A Small Gallery
frank theriault wrote: On Apr 7, 2005 1:18 AM, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, They're your pics, make 'em any way you like, regardless of comments and crits from others. I know I do. Contrast! I need more contrast! She can't take it any more, frank! She'll blow if I crank it any more!! I don't care ~what~ you have to do, I want more contrast!!! LOL -frank Hey Frank I thought you weren't here - I guess they have internet access in Halifax now :) ann (... ducking) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Digital Cleaning Kit Price
Hello Don, Looks much like my CopperHill kit Describes cleaning technique: http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/image/15473243 Ordering and price: http://www.pbase.com/image/39082096 This kit is 29.95 + 10.00 for shipping - seems the better deal. I have it and am pleased with it. HTH, Bruce Saturday, April 9, 2005, 7:06:38 AM, you wrote: DS Has anyone seen a better price on this kit? DS http://tinyurl.com/52pbk DS I was a very bad boy this morning and cleaned my sensor DS filter with a cotton swab and breath. DS It worked fine but don't want to make a habit of it. DS Plus the mirror is streaked and the way it is coated DS it's probably way easier to damage than the filter. DS Don
Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost
Well, I like it. The colors go nicely together the composition shows off the tree quite well. What kind of tree is that, anyway? Nice work with your first digital! Bruce Saturday, April 9, 2005, 7:11:29 AM, you wrote: DF Well, I finally got a digital, though it's a Optio S5i. An *ist D, or DF its successor, is still in my future, but we're spending a bit of money DF on racing right now, so camera funds are scarce. :-) In celebration of DF finally getting a digital of some sort, here's my first PESO. DF http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html DF TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: Digital Cleaning Kit Price
Thanks Bruce! Don -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:20 AM To: Don Sanderson Subject: Re: Digital Cleaning Kit Price Hello Don, Looks much like my CopperHill kit Describes cleaning technique: http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/image/15473243 Ordering and price: http://www.pbase.com/image/39082096 This kit is 29.95 + 10.00 for shipping - seems the better deal. I have it and am pleased with it. HTH, Bruce Saturday, April 9, 2005, 7:06:38 AM, you wrote: DS Has anyone seen a better price on this kit? DS http://tinyurl.com/52pbk DS I was a very bad boy this morning and cleaned my sensor DS filter with a cotton swab and breath. DS It worked fine but don't want to make a habit of it. DS Plus the mirror is streaked and the way it is coated DS it's probably way easier to damage than the filter. DS Don
Re: GESO - California Poppies
Bruce Dayton wrote: The state flower of California is the poppy. They bloom once a year so there is a short opportunity to see and photograph them. On my recent morning walks they have been out and I have been taking pictures when conditions were good. I felt that there were more than would be worth showing as a string of PESO's, so here is a little gallery. View if you are so inclined: http://www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/Poppies/index.htm Comments always welcome. -- Best regards, Bruce I love California poppies, too.. getting them to sit is always a challenge... my fave looking at the thumbnails was bkd_1655.htm but I'd like to see the blur on the left cropped out or darkened with photoshop... Cropping being the preferable route.. the first one on the left is stunning,too - how about that little bit of orange on the lower right hand corner? chop? If cropped even a tiny bit I think this one bkd_1698a.htm would be my favorite... it takes me right there. lovely stuff, Bruce ann
Re: GESO - California Poppies
Cotty wrote: On 8/4/05, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: No fish there - the water droplets are real. These are exactly as found in their natural state. Early morning this time of year has quite a bit of dew that settles on the flowers. Well done. Didn't I read somewhere that spraying flowers with water does them some harm?? Cheers, Cotty Tell that to the man upstairs.. :) ann ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
This was taken on one of my morning walks. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1673.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
inside Pentax *ist DS ...
This guy took the top cover off his DS to replace an eyepiece element and provided a couple of pictures of the camera dismantled to this point: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=13012591 enjoy, Godfrey
Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
WOW. That's a great shot Bruce. I love the red in it's wings. Dave S On Apr 9, 2005 11:40 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was taken on one of my morning walks. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1673.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
Autofocus Extension Tubes Coming
I believe this was raised here recently. As of today, the only ones autofocus ones available for Pentax are Kenko's 12 and 25 mm. tubes, sold individually. I read this morning in the May issue of Popular Photography that Kenko is bringing out new sets of tubes--the usual set of three, in 12, 20, and 36 mm. lengths. These will supposedly support Pentax AF. They will cost--$219 U.S. I don't know if that's MSRP or street price. So far they are not on the THK web site. But watch for this if interested. Joe
Re: GESO - California Poppies
Thanks Joe. I find that the longer focal lengths really help isolate the subject better. - Bruce, were the poppy photos also taken with the Tokina 400? jof
Re: Missing...
On 9/4/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: In case anyone wonders why I haven't been on the list of late, I had a paying gig for most of the last two weeks that kept me busy and out of touch, then my Win2K server decided to go tits up. (Near as I can tell the mother board is completely fried). Since it was the only machine that could be connected to the internet, for various technical reasons, I was SOL. I've reconfigured and I'm now off to find a replacement MB. I've got 5588 messages in my mailbox... You were gone? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
Cotty wrote: On 9/4/05, Johan Uiterwijk Winkel, discombobulated, unleashed: But when I do, I'll send them. (Ofcource, the photo's are then taken with a low budget digicam) Do you mind if I ask why you are taking your Ds apart? No ... For some reason, everything I have is taken apart by me. It can take one year, it can take much longer (in case of the ist ds I hope it will take very long.) Most of the time because it's broken. So, I hope it will take a long time before it happends, and at that time Pentax has hopefully released another generation of digital bodies, so the photo's of this one won't be so interesting anymore. Let's find a screwdriver ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.
Sounds like the same disease I have. Curiousititis. ;-) Don (The succinct and curious) -Original Message- From: Johan Uiterwijk Winkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:58 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax ist DS shutter. Cotty wrote: On 9/4/05, Johan Uiterwijk Winkel, discombobulated, unleashed: But when I do, I'll send them. (Ofcource, the photo's are then taken with a low budget digicam) Do you mind if I ask why you are taking your Ds apart? No ... For some reason, everything I have is taken apart by me. It can take one year, it can take much longer (in case of the ist ds I hope it will take very long.) Most of the time because it's broken. So, I hope it will take a long time before it happends, and at that time Pentax has hopefully released another generation of digital bodies, so the photo's of this one won't be so interesting anymore. Let's find a screwdriver ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: How do you keep track of exposed film?
I've found that out about the permanent markers. The lab I've been using is mail-order, and several rolls go into one bag. Their service has generally been good, and the quality of the processing is excellent. Service has been a bit off lately, I suspect because the volume of E6 processing is dropping. Rick --- Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I found that the fixing bath is aggressive enough to delete any permanent marker. If lab's cooperation is not an option I suppose you can always mechanically stamp your rolls by punching some holes. Just make sure you it's not on the first 5 cm which the lab usually cuts. BTW, do you send the rolls by mail or do you deliver it yourself? Personal contact makes people more responsible. Servus, Alin Rick wrote: RW The problem: I send my slide film out for processing RW (to The Slideprinter) about 5 rolls at a time. I RW number the rolls, and ask the lab to note the roll RW numbers on the slide boxes. Sometimes that happens, RW and sometimes not. Last year I came back from a trip RW with 15 exposed rolls, and the boxes came back with no RW numbers, which was a real pain. RW S...how do others keep track of rolls through the RW lab? Is there some way to quickly and indelibly mark RW the leader? RW Don't anyone bother to tell me to switch to an MZ-S or RW istD/DS! RW Rick __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
Hi! This was taken on one of my morning walks. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1673.htm To me the blue-red-black color makes it work. Tiny critter... Boris
Re: Missing...
Cotty wrote: On 9/4/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: In case anyone wonders why I haven't been on the list of late, I had a paying gig for most of the last two weeks that kept me busy and out of touch, then my Win2K server decided to go tits up. (Near as I can tell the mother board is completely fried). Since it was the only machine that could be connected to the internet, for various technical reasons, I was SOL. I've reconfigured and I'm now off to find a replacement MB. I've got 5588 messages in my mailbox... You were gone? I'd actually be amazed if anyone noticed... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: How do you keep track of exposed film?
I'd have thought the solution was simpler than that. Carry around a small notepad with you, with numbers 1 thru however many rolls you're carrying that day inked in thick black felt pen, and let the first frame of each roll be shot of it's own sequential roll number, at minimum focus distance. No need to touch the film leader itself. keith whaley Rick Womer wrote: I've found that out about the permanent markers. The lab I've been using is mail-order, and several rolls go into one bag. Their service has generally been good, and the quality of the processing is excellent. Service has been a bit off lately, I suspect because the volume of E6 processing is dropping. Rick --- Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I found that the fixing bath is aggressive enough to delete any permanent marker. If lab's cooperation is not an option I suppose you can always mechanically stamp your rolls by punching some holes. Just make sure you it's not on the first 5 cm which the lab usually cuts. BTW, do you send the rolls by mail or do you deliver it yourself? Personal contact makes people more responsible. Servus, Alin Rick wrote:
Re: How do you keep track of exposed film?
Rick, I can highly recommend this outfit, all he does is slides. Several outdoor pros, among others use him. The owner/operator is Michael Lussier, Phone # (906) 632-1850. AgX Imaging, 228 West 14th Avenue, Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan 49783. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: Re: How do you keep track of exposed film? Ken, Who and where? Answer back-channel if you wish. Rick --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I've run into a processor that won't individually number the rolls as I've requested, I have them write up a separate receipt (envelope) for each roll. I keep track of my roll number their envelope number. I've done up to 15 rolls at a time, they complain I threaten to take my business elsewhere. Its a pain for all involved, Luckily for the last several years I found use a top notch slide processor who does what I ask of him. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: How do you keep track of exposed film? The problem: I send my slide film out for processing (to The Slideprinter) about 5 rolls at a time. I number the rolls, and ask the lab to note the roll numbers on the slide boxes. Sometimes that happens, and sometimes not. Last year I came back from a trip with 15 exposed rolls, and the boxes came back with no numbers, which was a real pain. S...how do others keep track of rolls through the lab? Is there some way to quickly and indelibly mark the leader? Don't anyone bother to tell me to switch to an MZ-S or istD/DS! Rick __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
First Macro Stuff
Hi! Well, the poppies are still blooming. Galia so much wanted to have a photo of ladybug (if you see the pic and I am mistaken in English, please correct me)... So I took my tripod, attached a 2x matching converter to my Tamron 90/2.5 SP and headed to the field... http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/8902760/ Also, while on the field, we've been attacked by the rather known flying objects... Though I cannot identify these objects with any degree of certainty... This time, my Tamron 90/2.5 SP was without the converter... http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/8902759/ Comments are welcome, as usual. Boris
Re: Pos vs neg grain
Alin, Useful and much appreciated information. Thanks! Pos and neg RMS factors relate to two different scales. The actual conversion factor escapes me at the moment. If I should locate it, I'll put up on list. This isn't to say that the total of all other information you furnished isn't exactly right. Just wanted to make the minor point. Jack --- Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, In absolute terms, the negative emulsions have finer grain than positive. Indeed, Agfa's best negative, Portrait 160 with it's granularity of RMS 3.5 is obviously better than the RMS 10 of their best positive - RSX 50. The difference maintains more or less at all other manufacturers. In real world though, the thicker layers of the positive emulsion accounts for higher densities that translate to finer gradations in all three colour channels. This comes at the expense of the reduced exposure range compared to the negative emulsion, but given a subject whose exposure range is covered by the positive emulsion latitude, the positive delivers a richer image than the negative and the continuity of tones hide its higher granulation giving the overall better appearance. In the digital era, this becomes even more obvious with the post processing level of the scanned image: the lack of tones of the negative emulsion image is immediately apparent as noise, sometimes after as little as level adjustment and curve manipulation to open the shadows. Despite its smaller grain, the noise gives the negative film the contrary appearance. In my limited experience, the only negative film that comes close to various positives (like Provia 100F, CT Precisa 100, RSX 100, etc.) in terms of rich image in tones is the Kodak RG50. Too bad it became obsolete. [Flame disclaimer: note that I don't discuss other criteria like exposure latitude, colour linearity, etc.; it's not the end of the world if I cannot capture all the subject's details, to me a good picture should also suggest, not just depict). Servus, Alin Jack wrote: JD I had a lab owner emphatically contend that..positive JD film of the same ISO has finer grain than negative JD film. Didn't address bw. JD We happened to be reviewing a bw print at the time JD and their existed a situation wherein the subject JD couldn't be pursued (customers waiting). JD I've since emailed him for a follow-up on his JD recommendation that bw film be scanned as positive JD film. JD If his answer (if received) is at all decipherable, JD I'll forward it. JD Does anyone know or suspect what he may be talking JD about? JD I've, also, read the RMS charts but, their results JD don't appear to be comparable. JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Missing...
Who was gone, Cotty? Shel [Original Message] From: Cotty You were gone?
Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost
Hi! Well, I finally got a digital, though it's a Optio S5i. An *ist D, or its successor, is still in my future, but we're spending a bit of money on racing right now, so camera funds are scarce. :-) In celebration of finally getting a digital of some sort, here's my first PESO. http://www.nutdriver.org/IMGP0038.html Welcome to DigiWorld, Doug. I should say that this very photo leaves me indifferent. I neither dislike it nor really like it. Although, somehow it seems to me you will be shooting much more now... Boris
Re: PESO: After School in Oxfordshire
Hi! Ten years ago, we had a glorious four-month sabbatical during which my wife and I worked in Oxford and lived ~30km south, in Faringdon. Two years ago we returned for a visit, which included the school my daughter attended while we were there. This was the ever-so-English scene outside the school: uniformed schoolboys playing football on a cool late-spring afternoon. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3263979 PZ-1p, FA 24-90, Elite Chrome 100, exposure unrecorded. Slide scanned, and the scan tweaked in PS Elements 2 until it matched the slide (a bit of work, that). Comments and critiques cordially invited. Tea anyone? Thanks for teaching me what is ever-so-English :). I'd go for a cup of strong darjeeling (spelling)... Pity you couldn't get closer. It almost works for me, but something is still missing. It could be however, that what missing is that I never visited England, except few quick connection waits in Hithrow... Boris
Re: Yellow Rumped Warbler
Paul, good catch. Only nit I have with this is the extraneous branch in the ULH corner. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:45 PM Subject: PESO: Yellow Rumped Warbler Checked this one in my bird book. I think I have him identified correctly. It's with the *istD at ISO 800, f11 @ 1000, fill from the Sigma 500DG Super flash. I could have gone to ISO 400 on this one, but most bird shots are in open shade, so I usually keep the camera at 800 when walking through the woods. This is about a 2X crop, so you'll see some digital noise. As Herb pointed out earlier today, a 400 is a bit short for shooting shy little birds in the wild. But it's still fun. At the highest interpolation level from the Adobe RAW converter I end up with about a 40meg image after crop. That still makes the minimum resolution for my stock house, but I'd like to do better. Anyway, enough talk. It's here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3265548size=lg
Re: PESO - Angel Hair
Hi! An early morning walk is a most wonderful time to take the camera along. The lighting presents very nice possibilities. In this case, hazy backlighting helped to create the effect. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 800, 1/1500 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1552a.htm Converted from Raw to Tiff in Capture 1 LE and sized/sharpened for web using BreezeBrowser. Bruce, I am sorry to say that, but it reminds of me geometry in nature and fractals. It is beautiful, but in a very mathematical way, at least in my eyes... I mean that as a compliment, I really do :). Now, we need to see who's strong, Paul Stenquist-the-handholder or Bruce Dayton-the-Tokina-wielder :). Isn't *istD lovely at 800 ISO? :) Boris
Re: PESO: Shy smile
Hi! Another one from my recent trip to a village in Mexico: http://www.g0nz.com/images/girlsmile.jpg Tried it in BW, and the color was so much better. Comments welcome. Indeed, in BW the sparkle in her eyes would be so, well, colorless :). Thanks for the lesson :). Boris
Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
Nice capture Bruce. If it were mine I'd crop it vertically to zero in more on the bird. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? This was taken on one of my morning walks. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1673.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
Great photo. Don't crop it, though! Uncropped it has just the right balance of light and dark, of black and blue, of red and blue. Cropping it further would IMNSHO ruin the photom make it just a boring bird illustration. Why are there all the 'croppers on the list eludes me ;-)) Frantisek Good light! fra
Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
Thanks for the tip. I'll try that and see what I think. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 9, 2005, 11:07:03 AM, you wrote: KW Nice capture Bruce. KW If it were mine I'd crop it vertically to zero in more on the bird. KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net KW Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 11:40 AM KW Subject: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? This was taken on one of my morning walks. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1673.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce
Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...
I own three transparent Pentax bodies, the SF1, PZ10, and a 110 Pentax. It would be cool if Pentax had made a transparent *ist D- and I could get one. Jim A. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:47:27 -0700 To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: inside Pentax *ist DS ... Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:47:31 -0400 This guy took the top cover off his DS to replace an eyepiece element and provided a couple of pictures of the camera dismantled to this point: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=13012591 enjoy, Godfrey
Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...
That's some wirey mess ;-) (seriously - not at all, you should see the old Fujicas...) That could be an incentive for list members to replace the plastic eyepiece lens with a glass one, just like some did with PZ1p! Good light! fra
Re: Pos vs neg grain(RMS conversion)
Just ask Jeeves about the neg to pos RMS conversion factor. Rule-of-thumb: neg RMS x 2.5. (Example: Neg of 4 x 2.5= 10 for pos). No explanation noted as to why the two film types are not based on the same scale. Much tech info avail if one cares to read it. Jack --- Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, In absolute terms, the negative emulsions have finer grain than positive. Indeed, Agfa's best negative, Portrait 160 with it's granularity of RMS 3.5 is obviously better than the RMS 10 of their best positive - RSX 50. The difference maintains more or less at all other manufacturers. In real world though, the thicker layers of the positive emulsion accounts for higher densities that translate to finer gradations in all three colour channels. This comes at the expense of the reduced exposure range compared to the negative emulsion, but given a subject whose exposure range is covered by the positive emulsion latitude, the positive delivers a richer image than the negative and the continuity of tones hide its higher granulation giving the overall better appearance. In the digital era, this becomes even more obvious with the post processing level of the scanned image: the lack of tones of the negative emulsion image is immediately apparent as noise, sometimes after as little as level adjustment and curve manipulation to open the shadows. Despite its smaller grain, the noise gives the negative film the contrary appearance. In my limited experience, the only negative film that comes close to various positives (like Provia 100F, CT Precisa 100, RSX 100, etc.) in terms of rich image in tones is the Kodak RG50. Too bad it became obsolete. [Flame disclaimer: note that I don't discuss other criteria like exposure latitude, colour linearity, etc.; it's not the end of the world if I cannot capture all the subject's details, to me a good picture should also suggest, not just depict). Servus, Alin Jack wrote: JD I had a lab owner emphatically contend that..positive JD film of the same ISO has finer grain than negative JD film. Didn't address bw. JD We happened to be reviewing a bw print at the time JD and their existed a situation wherein the subject JD couldn't be pursued (customers waiting). JD I've since emailed him for a follow-up on his JD recommendation that bw film be scanned as positive JD film. JD If his answer (if received) is at all decipherable, JD I'll forward it. JD Does anyone know or suspect what he may be talking JD about? JD I've, also, read the RMS charts but, their results JD don't appear to be comparable. JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Missing...
Saturday, April 9, 2005, 7:44:27 PM, Shel wrote: SB Who was gone, Cotty? Exactly. Good light! fra
RE: How do you keep track of exposed film?
...I use ring binders and put the film in chronologically - that is when I remember to do so. I don't keep track of single negs - unless scanned, of course. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. april 2005 19:37 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: How do you keep track of exposed film? I'd have thought the solution was simpler than that. Carry around a small notepad with you, with numbers 1 thru however many rolls you're carrying that day inked in thick black felt pen, and let the first frame of each roll be shot of it's own sequential roll number, at minimum focus distance. No need to touch the film leader itself. keith whaley Rick Womer wrote: I've found that out about the permanent markers. The lab I've been using is mail-order, and several rolls go into one bag. Their service has generally been good, and the quality of the processing is excellent. Service has been a bit off lately, I suspect because the volume of E6 processing is dropping. Rick --- Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I found that the fixing bath is aggressive enough to delete any permanent marker. If lab's cooperation is not an option I suppose you can always mechanically stamp your rolls by punching some holes. Just make sure you it's not on the first 5 cm which the lab usually cuts. BTW, do you send the rolls by mail or do you deliver it yourself? Personal contact makes people more responsible. Servus, Alin Rick wrote:
Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me?
Objection noted. The vertical orientation of the bird makes me want to accentuate the vertical. The space on the LH side detracts from that orientation. I wouldn't necessarily crop it all away. I probably would have used the vertical length as the longest dimension and kept (1.5:1.0) proportions to do horizontal crop. I believe I said if it were mine... ;- ) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Waller pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? Great photo. Don't crop it, though! Uncropped it has just the right balance of light and dark, of black and blue, of red and blue. Cropping it further would IMNSHO ruin the photom make it just a boring bird illustration. Why are there all the 'croppers on the list eludes me ;-)) Frantisek Good light! fra
Re: Pos vs neg grain
Jack, First I want to correct myself: I meant Kodak RG25 not 50 (I don't even know if there was such a beast as RG50). Second I am not aware there may be different RMS measurements or interpretations for negative and slide film. According to Agfa technical documents they use the same technique for both negative and slide. Maybe you are referring to PGI (Print Grain Index) Kodak introduced to scale emulsion grain to printed paper grain? They do claim that negative film grain cannot be directly compared to positive film and a translation is in order (via a reference printing system / reference paper). Whether this supports a real fact or Kodak just wanted to avoid a direct comparison to its green rival is anybody's choice... Servus, Alin Jack wrote: JD Alin, JD Useful and much appreciated information. Thanks! JD Pos and neg RMS factors relate to two different JD scales. The actual conversion factor escapes me at the JD moment. If I should locate it, I'll put up on list. JD This isn't to say that the total of all other JD information you furnished isn't exactly right. Just JD wanted to make the minor point.
Hello and Sensor cleaning
Having managed to keep up with this list for the last 20,000 or so posts, I thought I would introduce myself. I've recently acquired an istD after owning a succession of digital point and shoots over the last few years. Prior to that my only photographic experience was long ago, when match needle TTL metering was the latest thing. I still find myself approach these new cameras with a manual bias. If anyone's interested you can see some of my pictures at the url listed in my sig, below. Those are a little out there's other more normal stuff here: http://www.ahayesphoto.com/carnival2/index.html and http://www.ahayesphoto.com/glare/index.htm and http://www.ahayesphoto.com/blurrysite/blurindex.html On sensor cleaning, I've been following this fellow's advice and using a cosmetics brush. His approach seems to make sense and work pretty well, and it's cheap to boot! http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/a_Brush_Your_Sensor/a_Brush_Your_Sensor.html This is a well named list, the members display a prodigious knowledge of things Pentax and a prodigious ability to discuss...almost anything! -- Alan P. Hayes Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design Pittsfield, Massachusetts Photographs at http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm
Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ...
Saturday, April 9, 2005, 8:59:32 PM, Jim wrote: JA I own three transparent Pentax bodies, the SF1, PZ10, and a 110 Pentax. JA It would be cool if Pentax had made a transparent *ist D- and I could get JA one. Best thing would be that with just the mirror chamber not transparent, you could have an almsot wholy transparent camera that still makes perfectly good pictures :) Good light! fra
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #748
unsubscribe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:06 PM Subject: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #748 -- Content-Type: text/plain pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 748 Today's Topics: Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? [ David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Autofocus Extension Tubes Coming [ Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: GESO - California Poppies [ Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Missing...[ Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.[ Johan Uiterwijk Winkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: Pentax ist DS shutter.[ Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: How do you keep track of exposed [ Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Missing...[ Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: How do you keep track of exposed [ Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] First Macro Stuff [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: How do you keep track of exposed [ Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Pos vs neg grain [ Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Missing...[ Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO: Tree Cuddles Lamppost [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO: After School in Oxfordshir [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Yellow Rumped Warbler [ Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Angel Hair [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO: Shy smile [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? [ Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? [ Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? [ Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ... [ Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: inside Pentax *ist DS ... [ Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Missing...[ Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -- Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 23:48:07 +0800 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Are you talkin' to me? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW. That's a great shot Bruce. I love the red in it's wings. Dave S On Apr 9, 2005 11:40 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was taken on one of my morning walks. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6 ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7, handheld, manual focus http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1673.htm Comments welcome -- Best regards, Bruce -- Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:33:55 -0600 From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Autofocus Extension Tubes Coming Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe this was raised here recently. As of today, the only ones autofocus ones available for Pentax are Kenko's 12 and 25 mm. tubes, sold individually. I read this morning in the May issue of Popular Photography that Kenko is bringing out new sets of tubes--the usual set of three, in 12, 20, and 36 mm. lengths. These will supposedly support Pentax AF. They will cost--$219 U.S. I don't know if that's MSRP or street price. So far they are not on the THK web site. But watch for this if interested. Joe -- Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 10:39:59 -0600 From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - California Poppies Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Joe. I find that the longer focal lengths really help isolate the subject better. - Bruce, were the poppy photos also taken with the Tokina 400? jof -- Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 17:47:21 +0100 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Missing... Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9/4/05, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: In case anyone wonders why I haven't been on the list of late, I had a paying gig for most of the last two weeks that kept me busy and out of touch, then my Win2K server decided to go tits up. (Near as I can tell the mother board is completely fried). Since it was the only machine that could be connected to the internet, for various technical reasons, I was SOL. I've reconfigured and I'm now off to find a replacement MB. I've got 5588 messages in my mailbox... You were gone? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
RE: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #748
Here we go again!!
-Original Message-
From: Peter Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 April 2005 08:38
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #748
unsubscribe
{Vast amount snipped}
Malcolm
How To Unsubscribe WAS_pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #748
The same guy again too!
Peter, go HERE: http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p4.html
And READ it.
6th line down on the right.
Don
Here we go again!!
-Original Message-
From: Peter Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 April 2005 08:38
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #748
unsubscribe
{Vast amount snipped}
Malcolm
Re: First Macro Stuff
On 9/4/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/8902760/ Well done Boris - that's one of the nicest ladybird pics I've ever seen! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: PESO - Angel Hair
Beautiful photograph, Bruce. I love it.! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. april 2005 07:20 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PESO - Angel Hair Yes, to me, that is one really big difference with digital. Shooting higher ISO can be very handy - and at much lower penalty than with film. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, April 7, 2005, 8:36:49 PM, you wrote: wnna Quoting Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pentax *istD ISO 800 wnna These dslr high ISO results are a lot different to what you'd have got on film. wnna Very nice. wnna wnna This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au
Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning
On 9/4/05, Alan P. Hayes, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.ahayesphoto.com/carnival2/index.html and http://www.ahayesphoto.com/glare/index.htm and http://www.ahayesphoto.com/blurrysite/blurindex.html Yo Alan, welcome. Bloody hell an artist! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: PESO: I'm watching you
He's quit an actor, isn't he? Nice shot. Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 8. april 2005 16:22 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO: I'm watching you http://www.g0nz.com/images/sleepymanmx.jpg This fellow likes to watch people go by near a church in a small village in Mexico. He was keeping his eye on me, I had been snapping pics all around him when I thought that maybe he wasnt looking and I snapped this. But when I looked closer, I realized that he was still looking at me with his eyes half closed. It was almost dusk, so I had to use iso 3200 on the *istD, hence the graininess of the pic. Comments welcome. rg
Re: Missing...
On 9/4/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Who was gone, Cotty? Shel Baloo Solid gone. /Baloo Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Pentax ist DS shutter.
On 9/4/05, Johan Uiterwijk Winkel, discombobulated, unleashed: Let's find a screwdriver ;-) A man after my own heart Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
