Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #'s 44 and 45 - GDG

2005-11-21 Thread Gary Sibio

At 06:23 PM 11/20/2005, you wrote:


Whew, feels like forever since I've put a PAW photo up. Figured I'd
get these two on the site before I leave for NY tomorrow ... two at
once.

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/44.htm
  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/45.htm

Comments, critique, flames all appreciated.



I liked the second of the two better. Was that a tattoo or the edge 
of the person's underwear. It might be interesting to load the image 
into Photoshop and add color to just that one little section.




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PAW - Lees Valley

2005-11-21 Thread David Mann
I'm making good progress with my scanning so here's another one from  
the archives.


http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=127t=1

- Dave



Re: PAW - Lees Valley

2005-11-21 Thread Peter McIntosh

David Mann wrote:

I'm making good progress with my scanning so here's another one from  
the archives.


http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=127t=1

- Dave



Wow.

My mind's eye sees Gandalf and Frodo in the distance... :-)

Ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: 77mm Ltd Black available on special order

2005-11-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 21.11.05 4:14:

 Oh yeah,
 
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P3032974m.JPG (~113kB)
Rob, I hate you very much :-P Do you have similar photos with black 43 and
31??? Please send me them to me if you want me to have heart attack ;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: 77mm Ltd Black available on special order

2005-11-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Nov 2005 at 10:44, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 Rob, I hate you very much :-P Do you have similar photos with black 43 and
 31??? Please send me them to me if you want me to have heart attack ;-)

LOL

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PA152669m.JPG
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PA082548m.JPG
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P9302147m.JPG

I hope you have a defib nearby :-)


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Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: 77mm Ltd Black available on special order

2005-11-21 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 21.11.05 11:58:

 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PA152669m.JPG
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PA082548m.JPG
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P9302147m.JPG
 
 I hope you have a defib nearby :-)
Thanks for my heart care - especially that two last links don't work at all
;-)

-- 
Balance is the ultimate good...

Best Regards
Sylwek



Re: 77mm Ltd Black available on special order

2005-11-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Rob Studdert wrote:


http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PA152669m.JPG
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/PA082548m.JPG
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/P9302147m.JPG

I hope you have a defib nearby :-)


Have *you* got one? Someone stole them.

Kostas (the links, that is :-)



Re: Peso: Outake

2005-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 20/11/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Meet Roy.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/b_w9902.html

Great portrait Bill. Really nice.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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PESO: Requieme for a building

2005-11-21 Thread luben karavelov
Hello to all,

A week before I noticed that a beautiful and abandoned building I have
photographed the last winter was destroyed. I found the negatives and
copied them again. I have experimented with iodine bleach on the copies.

Here is the result:
http://static.flickr.com/27/65462501_e315da7592_o.jpg

All comments, advices and critiques are welcome

Thanks in advance
luben

-- 
Computers are useless. They can only give answers. - Pablo Picasso



Re: Opinions wanted - couple lenses

2005-11-21 Thread Derby Chang

Thibouille wrote:


Have the opportunity to buy these lenses. Primary use will be ist-D
but Z1 and others also (see signature). What do you think of these?

* Sigma 28-70mm 2.8EX Asph
* SMC Pentax-F 28mm 2.8
* SMC Pentax-F 20mm 2.8

How are these doing on the D? I seem to remember that the 20mm wasn't
all that...
I do not currently own any 2.8 zoom. Of course 28-70mm on a D is not
that interesting...
28mm makes a 35mm (more or less) and a 20mm makes a 30mm.

My Only AF prime is FA 50mm 1.4. I also have the DA 18-55anf the F
70-210 but a couple primes would be cool ;)

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I have the Sigma. Not bad for the price.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/05_10_spring/index.htm

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Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread Peter McIntosh

Jack Davis wrote:


I think you got all the scene had to offer. NICE!

Jack

 


Thanks, Jack.  The thistle is about to go, too.

ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread Peter McIntosh

P. J. Alling wrote:


That'a a very nice first effort.

I hate you, (Frank make a note.)


(Digital) beginner's luck, I'd say... :-)

Thanks for your comments.

Ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread Peter McIntosh

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Nice thistle!
Looks like you're doing well with the DL. Enjoy it!

I like the DS a lot, it's an amazing performer. The DL is essentially  
a slightly less expensive version of the same camera, no reason for  
it not to be excellent.


Godfrey

Thanks, Godfrey.  I like their flowers, but the plant itself is evil - 
lots of thorns.  This one was a right bugger to get rid of - almost 3 
feet tall...


I wondered when purchasing the DL whether I'd be happy with it, or 
whether I should try and find a DS out here in OZ.  Any DS I found was 
way over budget, so the DL it was.  I'm quite confident now that I've 
made the right decision.


Ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread Peter McIntosh

Paul Stenquist wrote:

A couple of snaps I took while watching football this afternoon. 
They're on the *istD, FA 50/1.4, f2 @ 1/125th, ISO 800

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894122


Wow!  She's a stunning little girl, and your shots demonstrate this in 
abundance.


Ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: OT -- Zeiss Ikon

2005-11-21 Thread Bob Shell


On Nov 20, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:


I was interested in how the camera performed with Leica glass.


From what perspective are you interested? The absolute res will  
only be as good
as you'll see out of any of the Pentax DSLRs since it uses the same  
sensor.
There seem to be plenty of reviews on-line, most however appear to  
concentrate
on edge performance and vignetting. In most instances the Leica  
lenses provide
improved results over the Cosina lenses but most WA lenses do seem  
to vignette

a little more than they did when used on film bodies.



I saw no real difference in image quality between lenses made by  
Cosina, Konica and Leica.  For that matter, some of my Russian lenses  
looked as good.


With film the limiting factors in resolution are the size of the  
silver halide crystals and the thickness of the emulsion.  With  
digital it is the size of the individual sensor elements, the  
smallest of which are far larger than the crystals in any modern film.


In digital the appearance of sharpness is created by the firmware/ 
software used to process the image, not by lens resolution. I think  
that lens contrast is far more important for digital than raw  
resolution.


Bob



Re: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Peter. It's great to have someone around the house who is not 
afraid of my camera :-).

Paul
On Nov 21, 2005, at 6:41 AM, Peter McIntosh wrote:


Paul Stenquist wrote:

A couple of snaps I took while watching football this afternoon. 
They're on the *istD, FA 50/1.4, f2 @ 1/125th, ISO 800

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894122


Wow!  She's a stunning little girl, and your shots demonstrate this in 
abundance.


Ciao,

Peter in Sydney





Re: Re: OT -- Zeiss Ikon

2005-11-21 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/11/21 Mon AM 11:47:43 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT -- Zeiss Ikon
 
 
 On Nov 20, 2005, at 9:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
 
  I was interested in how the camera performed with Leica glass.
 
  From what perspective are you interested? The absolute res will  
  only be as good
  as you'll see out of any of the Pentax DSLRs since it uses the same  
  sensor.
  There seem to be plenty of reviews on-line, most however appear to  
  concentrate
  on edge performance and vignetting. In most instances the Leica  
  lenses provide
  improved results over the Cosina lenses but most WA lenses do seem  
  to vignette
  a little more than they did when used on film bodies.
 
 
 I saw no real difference in image quality between lenses made by  
 Cosina, Konica and Leica.  For that matter, some of my Russian lenses  
 looked as good.
 
 With film the limiting factors in resolution are the size of the  
 silver halide crystals and the thickness of the emulsion.  With  
 digital it is the size of the individual sensor elements, the  
 smallest of which are far larger than the crystals in any modern film.
 
 In digital the appearance of sharpness is created by the firmware/ 
 software used to process the image, not by lens resolution. I think  
 that lens contrast is far more important for digital than raw  
 resolution.

The above two paragraphs qualify you for burning at the stake, with a free 
sachet of barbeque sauce.


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Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Peter McIntosh

Subject: Re: PESO - weeds






Thanks, Godfrey.  I like their flowers, but the plant itself is evil - 
lots of thorns.  This one was a right bugger to get rid of - almost 3 feet 
tall...


I believed that is a Scotch thistle. In Canada, they are classed as a 
noxious weed.
I have a few in my back yard I have been trying to eradicate for about 20 
years. If you come up with something that works, tell me.
The best advice I have gotten so far is multiple doses of very weak 
Glycosphate (Roundup) over several moths.


William Robb 





Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: William Robb

Subject: Re: PESO - weeds





The best advice I have gotten so far is multiple doses of very weak 
Glycosphate (Roundup) over several moths.


Several months, though if you insist on using moths, I suspect one will be 
as good as another.


William Robb 





Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread Peter McIntosh

William Robb wrote:

I believed that is a Scotch thistle. In Canada, they are classed as a 
noxious weed.
I have a few in my back yard I have been trying to eradicate for about 
20 years. If you come up with something that works, tell me.
The best advice I have gotten so far is multiple doses of very weak 
Glycosphate (Roundup) over several moths.


William Robb


Not sure if they're classified out here, but I wouldn't be surprised if 
they are.  And yup - roundup will kill them, so long as they're small.  
I tend to go the other way and mix it to double strength - seems to work 
fairly quickly. I believe that you can over mix this stuff - too strong 
and it won't work because it's relatively too thick.


I let this one grow because I wanted to photograph the flowers - well, 
that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :-) .  A long-handled shovel 
removed it with only a few spikes to me in revenge.


Ciao,

Peter in Sydney



Re: OT -- Zeiss Ikon

2005-11-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Nov 2005 at 6:47, Bob Shell wrote:

 I saw no real difference in image quality between lenses made by  
 Cosina, Konica and Leica.  For that matter, some of my Russian lenses  
 looked as good.
 
 With film the limiting factors in resolution are the size of the  
 silver halide crystals and the thickness of the emulsion.  With  
 digital it is the size of the individual sensor elements, the  
 smallest of which are far larger than the crystals in any modern film.
 
 In digital the appearance of sharpness is created by the firmware/ 
 software used to process the image, not by lens resolution. I think  
 that lens contrast is far more important for digital than raw  
 resolution.

Hence the fact that the reviews I'm aware of don't tend to concentrate on image 
sharpness but on factors that do vary due to lens design like edge sharpness, 
CA and vignetting.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
Okay, that's an exaggeration.  It didn't ruin my weekend, but it
pissed me off some.  And, really, it was my fault, not the camera's

Actually, it was a pretty good weekend.  My middle daughter celebrated
her 17th, and she had a good party.  Of course, pix taken, in this
case with the LX/K1.2 50mm/TriX.

The next day, my youngest had to go up the road to Gananoque, about 20
miles from Kingston, to be in the local Santa Claus Parade.  Seems the
playhouse that put on the play that she was in over the summer had a
float in the parade, so she went to help decorate it.  She found out
that she was then going to be on the float, which thrilled her to no
end.  She got to put on one of the period costumes from Anne of Green
Gables, and sing caroles whilst being pulled through town.

So, my ex and I go to see the parade.  It was quite wonderful.  Being
used to big city parades with expensive floats and world-class
marching bands, I was prepared to be underwhelmed.  Quite the
contrary!  It was wonderful.  The streets were packed, and every float
was full of local folks, who seemed to know everyone along the parade
route.  There was an incredible sense of community and joy that seems
lost in the huge multi-million dollar parades in big cities that I've
seen before.

So, I have about 1/2 roll in my LX, with a roll in my pocket.  I can
see Claire's float coming, and by then I have about 5 shots left, so I
quick fire them off, so I can load a fresh roll, so I don't get stuck
at the end of a roll whilst shooting her and her float.  I put the
lens cap on, change film, change the shutter dial from Automatic to
1/2000th so that the shutter doesn't stay open interminably while I
fire off the first three pre-shots (you can see where I'm going),
and suddenly my ex yells, here she is.

I run off to snap about 20 or 25 shots of her and her float, quite
thrilled to have gotten that many of her.

On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

Oh well, that's what I get for not paying attention, I guess.  Plus,
that's what I get for regularly switching between 3 or 4 bodies.  I
think I got about 1/2 roll of pretty good parade shots, but missed all
of them of my daughter.  Luckily, someone else got lots of shots which
they'll share with me, but it's not the same.  :-(

Still, a wonderful weekend was had, and most importantly, both my
daughters that still live at home had terrific times!

-frank, back at work on Monday morning...
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Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread Kenneth Waller
The best advice I have gotten so far is multiple doses of very weak 
Glycosphate (Roundup) over several moths.

May I suggest you try dosing the weeds! VBG

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - weeds


- Original Message - 
From: Peter McIntosh
Subject: Re: PESO - weeds




 Thanks, Godfrey.  I like their flowers, but the plant itself is evil - 
 lots of thorns.  This one was a right bugger to get rid of - almost 3 feet 
 tall...

I believed that is a Scotch thistle. In Canada, they are classed as a 
noxious weed.
I have a few in my back yard I have been trying to eradicate for about 20 
years. If you come up with something that works, tell me.
The best advice I have gotten so far is multiple doses of very weak 
Glycosphate (Roundup) over several moths.

William Robb 





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RE: People Portraits 2005 #'s 44 and 45 - GDG

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Got to admit, #44 doesn't say much to me. I guess it is a cultural thing, me
being a rural Norwegian. 
The other one suggests an 8, the bow on chair being the upper part, and the
hips being the lower part of the figure. Pleasant lines for mens eye, but
not a wow for this either. Delicate bw conversion, BTW.
Can't help asking myself: Would we men comment on this picture, if it were a
mans hairy back? Something tells me that the answer is no.
Sorry guys for being such an ass ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21. november 2005 01:23
 To: PDML
 Subject: PAW: People  Portraits 2005 #'s 44 and 45 - GDG
 
 Whew, feels like forever since I've put a PAW photo up. Figured I'd
 get these two on the site before I leave for NY tomorrow ... two at
 once.
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/44.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/45.htm
 
 Comments, critique, flames all appreciated.
 
 enjoy,
 Godfrey
 






RE: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Grace is a pearl. No doubt. 
The reading picture is a winner. She is in her own little world, having a
great time. I like how the background kind of picks up the colours of the
book. Very nice bokeh. Excellent use of OOF.
The other picture is nice to, but it is not of the same standard. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21. november 2005 03:42
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon
 
 A couple of snaps I took while watching football this afternoon.
 They're on the *istD, FA 50/1.4, f2 @ 1/125th, ISO 800
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894122
 





Re: 77mm Ltd Black available on special order

2005-11-21 Thread David Savage
I agree. The silver versions do look a little odd. But when you look
through the viewfinder,  later at the final images, the colour of the
lens body doesn't matter at all.

BTW here are mine:

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/Friends.htm

Dave

On 11/21/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

  apart from rarity, do the blacks look much better?

 I have black 43 and silver 77... Silver 77 looks pretty odd on *istD...
 it looks perfectly in place on (silver) MZ-6. The light comes through
 the same exact way though...

 Boris





RE: PESO - Rosella

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
The flower and the stem do not connect, in my eyes. Can't explain why. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: David Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21. november 2005 07:15
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Rosella
 
 In the recent windy period in Sydney, one of my Rosella plants was blown
 over. I have since righted it and its peculiar response can be seen in
 the following photo which I took a moment ago.
 
 http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/rosella.jpg
 
 *ist D, FA50 macro @ f/2.8, ISO 400.
 
 As usual, I'd appreciate any comments on the photo. In particular I'm
 keen for suggestions on post-processing if anyone has any.
 
 Cheers,
 David
 





Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Nov 2005 at 8:10, frank theriault wrote:

 On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
 at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
 the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
 and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

Hmm, been there, done that, bummer, it's a hard lesson but one easily 
remembered :-(

Sounds like you had a great weekend otherwise :-)

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: www.pentaxslr.com

2005-11-21 Thread Cory Papenfuss

http://www.pentaximaging.com/index.jsp

The new page is to quote from the pentaximaging main page

WWW.PENTAXSLR.COM TARGETS SLR USERS - REBATES UNTIL 2006

Not really special news...


	I would speculate that the most important thing about this is that 
it offers direct sales.  Isn't there speculation of a new product 
announcement around Jan?


-Cory

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Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread keith_w

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!


This one's a 75mm Xenar.
O.M.G. ~ it just occurred to me, I'm just watching it!
Maybe I'd better commit!  ;-)

Okay, I did it...
Talk to y'all tomorrow!



Keith, for a splittest briefest moment I thought you were going to let 
me have it...


*sigh*

Boris


I promise, Boris, you can have the NEXT one. I have this one!

(See my comments to Godfrey...)

keith



RE: PAW - Lees Valley

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
I like it. I wish it was larger. This kind of photo cries for a larger
format. 
I like the lines. The yellow bush in right makes a pleasant counterpoint.
The lens thing (don't know the word in English) is a bit disturbing. 



Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21. november 2005 09:57
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PAW - Lees Valley
 
 I'm making good progress with my scanning so here's another one from
 the archives.
 
 http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=127t=1
 
 - Dave
 





Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread Boris Liberman
 I promise, Boris, you can have the NEXT one. I have this one!

 (See my comments to Godfrey...)

I doubt it I will be after RolleiFlex... Fuji rangefinders are very
attractive proposition. I need to do two things:

1. Get to meet one such camera in person.
2. Somehow get to know how reliable they are...

--
Boris



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread David Savage
On 11/21/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, that's an exaggeration.  It didn't ruin my weekend, but it
 pissed me off some.  And, really, it was my fault, not the camera's

 Actually, it was a pretty good weekend.  My middle daughter celebrated
 her 17th, and she had a good party.  Of course, pix taken, in this
 case with the LX/K1.2 50mm/TriX.

 The next day, my youngest had to go up the road to Gananoque, about 20
 miles from Kingston, to be in the local Santa Claus Parade.  Seems the
 playhouse that put on the play that she was in over the summer had a
 float in the parade, so she went to help decorate it.  She found out
 that she was then going to be on the float, which thrilled her to no
 end.  She got to put on one of the period costumes from Anne of Green
 Gables, and sing caroles whilst being pulled through town.

Sounds like a lot of fun.

 So, my ex and I go to see the parade.  It was quite wonderful.  Being
 used to big city parades with expensive floats and world-class
 marching bands, I was prepared to be underwhelmed.  Quite the
 contrary!  It was wonderful.  The streets were packed, and every float
 was full of local folks, who seemed to know everyone along the parade
 route.  There was an incredible sense of community and joy that seems
 lost in the huge multi-million dollar parades in big cities that I've
 seen before.

 So, I have about 1/2 roll in my LX, with a roll in my pocket.  I can
 see Claire's float coming, and by then I have about 5 shots left, so I
 quick fire them off, so I can load a fresh roll, so I don't get stuck
 at the end of a roll whilst shooting her and her float.  I put the
 lens cap on, change film, change the shutter dial from Automatic to
 1/2000th so that the shutter doesn't stay open interminably while I
 fire off the first three pre-shots (you can see where I'm going),
 and suddenly my ex yells, here she is.

Uh oh

 I run off to snap about 20 or 25 shots of her and her float, quite
 thrilled to have gotten that many of her.

 On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
 at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
 the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
 and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

Poop?, Poop?! That's a bit mild. When  things like that happen to me I
tend to use language that would make a sailor blush. vbg

 Oh well, that's what I get for not paying attention, I guess.  Plus,
 that's what I get for regularly switching between 3 or 4 bodies.  I
 think I got about 1/2 roll of pretty good parade shots, but missed all
 of them of my daughter.  Luckily, someone else got lots of shots which
 they'll share with me, but it's not the same.  :-(

 Still, a wonderful weekend was had, and most importantly, both my
 daughters that still live at home had terrific times!

That's the main thing.

 -frank, back at work on Monday morning...
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Peter McIntosh 
Subject: Re: PESO - weeds







I let this one grow because I wanted to photograph the flowers - well, 
that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :-) .  A long-handled shovel 
removed it with only a few spikes to me in revenge.


It will be back.

William Robb



Re: PAW - Lees Valley

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm making good progress with my scanning so here's another one from
 the archives.

 http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=127t=1

 - Dave

Cool.  I like the colours - light foreground, dark background.  Very
well composed.

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A couple of snaps I took while watching football this afternoon.
 They're on the *istD, FA 50/1.4, f2 @ 1/125th, ISO 800
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894122

Both wonderful shots, Paul!  I especially like the second one - her
sparkling personality shines through.

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys,

 This is one of the first photos taken with my new ist-DL.  It's a weed -
 a thistle.  Just love the flowers they produce, though.

 I like the DL.  Easy to handle, and hasn't taken too long to get using
 with a little confidence.  I'm blissfully ignorant of the D and DS, so I
 can't compare it.  It's my first digital SLR, and it has constantly
 surprised me in the 4 days I've had it.

 This shot was taken in RAW, converted to highest quality jpeg with
 Pentax' tool, then processed (minimally) using Picture Window Pro.

 All comments, critiques most welcome.

 Oops - the link would help... http://www.pbase.com/image/52485409


Nice one!  Like you, even though they're weeds, I've always liked the
flower of the thistle.

Well captured.

-frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - weeds

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That'a a very nice first effort.

 I hate you, (Frank make a note.)


Check.  Peter Mc's on the hate list.  Thanks for the heads up, Peter.

-frank the list-keeper

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread keith_w

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Nov 20, 2005, at 4:35 PM, keith_w wrote:

I just located a _superb_ f/3.5 Rollei TLR, a 3.5E, and I hope it's  
still available the next time I check.


I found that the f/2.8s are NOT available for much less than the  
national debt! I'd have to sell 3 or 4 cameras to get one, and I  
don't know which ones I'd sell.


For 1/2 stop difference, maybe it's not worth it, if the rest of  the 
camera is mint...



The 3.5E has either a Schneider Xenitar or a Zeiss Planar lens. These  
are actually better performers in their f/3.5 incarnation than the f/ 
2.8 models, particularly wide open.


My best Rolleiflex was a very late F3.5 Whiteface with Zeiss Planar  
75mm f/3.5. Superb camera, worth every penny.


I read about that in your 1999 post to the Rollei list!


Godfrey


Turns out I was looking at a Rollei Magic, not a 3.5 E!
The E was less money but even so...

Sports an f/3.5 75mm S-K Xenar, which is reportedly identical to the 
Tessar version of the same aperture.
Practically new in box, it's near mint. For a 40+ year old camera, nice. 
To have the box it came in and manual, etc. even better!


So now we wait... and that's the hardest part!  ;-)

keith



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Fred
 I put the lens cap on, change film, change the shutter dial from
 Automatic to 1/2000th so that the shutter doesn't stay open interminably
 while I fire off the first three pre-shots [snipped] On the way to the
 car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial at 1/2000th.

Been there, done that...  (g)

 (you can see where I'm going)

I knew instantly and exactly just where you were going with that - g.

As much as I sometimes get annoyed by forced automation, I do see the
advantage to my Super A's, which set the shutter speed automatically at
1/1000 or 1/2000 (I forget which) for the pre-shots, before reverting to
whatever settings were in place before changing rolls.

Fred




Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread Gasha

I can only agree with Mishka:

P645 has very good mirror dampening. I don't have a single unsharp frame 
so far, because of slow shutter speed. Only because of missed focus or 
DOF...

It holds VERY good.
Meter is accurate, so shoot with slides and expect correct exposures.
And it is built solid, with good ergonomics.

Better get 55mm lens or even 45mm. Wide angle is fantastic with SMC 
coating and manual focus.


Gasha

Mishka wrote:

Boris,

You can hardly go wrong with P645 (although I wouldn't buy a
FA75mm -- the manual focus ones are much cheaper). The
*big* plus of P645 is that you can easily mount many 3rd party lenses
made for pentacon6/kiev mount, inluding some very inexpensive
Zeiss gems (and very expensive Zeiss gems from Hasselblad as well)
The MLU is not really required with it since it has  very good mirror
dampening.
It's *very* handholdable and the built-in meter helps a lot.

If you want a lighter option, go for a clean late model Rolleicord.
At f/5.6 on, it easily outresolves 50lpmm on slide film. And it is
very light. And inexpensive.

I have no experience with 645 fujies, but their 690W is fantastic.
But *very* bulky.

Best,
mishka

On 11/18/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi!

I think it would be prudent to open a new thread...

What I was thinking of is a camera with standard lens, preferably fixed
lens. I have eyed some Fuji models. I want something that is reasonably
light, with good quality and reasonable versatility...

I think I can live with Pentax 645 and 75/2.8 lens... But I think I'd
want a MLU so that I won't have to haul a tripod with me *all the time*
 if I go shooting MF...

Well, in fact, except that wonderful day in Norway, I am completely
clueless about MF...

I have a friend who is deeply in love with his RolleiFlex, but I may be
not good enough with mechanics to try and repeat his path...

For now, on KEH, they show Pentax 645 (basic, manual focus) body for
order of $300 and FA 75/2.8 lens (supposedly I'd go AF some day) $250
more... There are some RolleiFlexes for similar sum. They also list some
Fuji GA645 with 60/4 lens for similar money.

As for what Frank suggested... I've seen some shots made with
YashicaMat... They did not impress me really. The lens was probably very
simple triplet variety. It was sharp but I am not after bleeding
sharpness...

Well, I am confused all right.

Any help in unconfusing this individual will be appreciated.

Boris

P.S. I lean towards Fuji cameras because I know they'll be much lighter
than Pentax. Also, evidently, having fixed lens means it is leaf shutter
and so it does not suffer from shake too much...









Re: PESO - Rosella

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, David Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the recent windy period in Sydney, one of my Rosella plants was blown
 over. I have since righted it and its peculiar response can be seen in
 the following photo which I took a moment ago.

 http://davidavid.whatsbeef.net/rosella.jpg

 *ist D, FA50 macro @ f/2.8, ISO 400.

 As usual, I'd appreciate any comments on the photo. In particular I'm
 keen for suggestions on post-processing if anyone has any.


maybe just a bit more dof would work better to my eye.  The petals
seem a bit oof to me.

Well composed, however...

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Wanted to Buy

2005-11-21 Thread brooksdj
Hi Gang.

Family were discussing things for Christmas presents over the weekend and i 
asked my
daughter if 
she was still using/enjoying her istD. 

Yes was the answer.

So, i thought another lens would be inorder for her. She has my old 35-70 
FA and i
thought i 
would ask if someone has an F or FA 70-200 or 80-200 AF lens that they are 
thinking of
selling.

Thought i would ask here first, and if not i'll explore ebay. I can offer MO or 
cheque. I
still don't trust 
paypal etc.

Dave





Re: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread Doug Brewer

Mr. Brown can moo. Can you?


Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg




Re: OT -- Zeiss Ikon

2005-11-21 Thread Bob Shell


On Nov 21, 2005, at 7:05 AM, mike wilson wrote:


With film the limiting factors in resolution are the size of the
silver halide crystals and the thickness of the emulsion.  With
digital it is the size of the individual sensor elements, the
smallest of which are far larger than the crystals in any modern  
film.


In digital the appearance of sharpness is created by the firmware/
software used to process the image, not by lens resolution. I think
that lens contrast is far more important for digital than raw
resolution.


The above two paragraphs qualify you for burning at the stake, with  
a free sachet of barbeque sauce.



So long as the sauce is liberally laced with Jack Daniels, bring it on!

Bob



Re: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Stringer
I've pushed TriX 4 stops. Might be interesting photos. Not what you expected 
but there is such a thing as serendipity.


Mark Stringer

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:10 AM
Subject: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend



Okay, that's an exaggeration.  It didn't ruin my weekend, but it
pissed me off some.  And, really, it was my fault, not the camera's

Actually, it was a pretty good weekend.  My middle daughter celebrated
her 17th, and she had a good party.  Of course, pix taken, in this
case with the LX/K1.2 50mm/TriX.

The next day, my youngest had to go up the road to Gananoque, about 20
miles from Kingston, to be in the local Santa Claus Parade.  Seems the
playhouse that put on the play that she was in over the summer had a
float in the parade, so she went to help decorate it.  She found out
that she was then going to be on the float, which thrilled her to no
end.  She got to put on one of the period costumes from Anne of Green
Gables, and sing caroles whilst being pulled through town.

So, my ex and I go to see the parade.  It was quite wonderful.  Being
used to big city parades with expensive floats and world-class
marching bands, I was prepared to be underwhelmed.  Quite the
contrary!  It was wonderful.  The streets were packed, and every float
was full of local folks, who seemed to know everyone along the parade
route.  There was an incredible sense of community and joy that seems
lost in the huge multi-million dollar parades in big cities that I've
seen before.

So, I have about 1/2 roll in my LX, with a roll in my pocket.  I can
see Claire's float coming, and by then I have about 5 shots left, so I
quick fire them off, so I can load a fresh roll, so I don't get stuck
at the end of a roll whilst shooting her and her float.  I put the
lens cap on, change film, change the shutter dial from Automatic to
1/2000th so that the shutter doesn't stay open interminably while I
fire off the first three pre-shots (you can see where I'm going),
and suddenly my ex yells, here she is.

I run off to snap about 20 or 25 shots of her and her float, quite
thrilled to have gotten that many of her.

On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

Oh well, that's what I get for not paying attention, I guess.  Plus,
that's what I get for regularly switching between 3 or 4 bodies.  I
think I got about 1/2 roll of pretty good parade shots, but missed all
of them of my daughter.  Luckily, someone else got lots of shots which
they'll share with me, but it's not the same.  :-(

Still, a wonderful weekend was had, and most importantly, both my
daughters that still live at home had terrific times!

-frank, back at work on Monday morning...
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread pnstenquist
Mr. Brown can go, cocka doodle doo!' There are so many wonderful things that 
Mr. Brown can do.

(Not responsible for the accuracy of the above quote, although I've read the 
book several dozen times. I'm very good at the cork popping sound, and I 
deliver a decent moo.)
Paul


 Mr. Brown can moo. Can you?
 
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg
 



Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #'s 44 and 45 - GDG

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whew, feels like forever since I've put a PAW photo up. Figured I'd
 get these two on the site before I leave for NY tomorrow ... two at
 once.

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/44.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/45.htm

 Comments, critique, flames all appreciated.

The first one's rather whimsical, but really doesn't do much for me. 
The face 1/2 in the shadow bothers me some, and the awning and
buildings in the background just don't seem to work with the
foreground.  There just isn't any integration between foreground and
background.

The second one, however, is a real winner!  Strong composition;  it
all just comes together and works very well for me.

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread graywolf
Hope you have not tossed the film. You have two choices, since I know 
you use a custom lab where you have good relations: 1--have them process 
the film by inspection, 2--have them push the film 3 stops, and pray a bit.


Of course the images will not be as good as if shot at the correct 
exposure, but these are OIALT (once in a life time) shots. You should be 
able to make OK small prints. Heck you may find out you like the results 
from the technique.


graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



frank theriault wrote:


Okay, that's an exaggeration.  It didn't ruin my weekend, but it
pissed me off some.  And, really, it was my fault, not the camera's

Actually, it was a pretty good weekend.  My middle daughter celebrated
her 17th, and she had a good party.  Of course, pix taken, in this
case with the LX/K1.2 50mm/TriX.

The next day, my youngest had to go up the road to Gananoque, about 20
miles from Kingston, to be in the local Santa Claus Parade.  Seems the
playhouse that put on the play that she was in over the summer had a
float in the parade, so she went to help decorate it.  She found out
that she was then going to be on the float, which thrilled her to no
end.  She got to put on one of the period costumes from Anne of Green
Gables, and sing caroles whilst being pulled through town.

So, my ex and I go to see the parade.  It was quite wonderful.  Being
used to big city parades with expensive floats and world-class
marching bands, I was prepared to be underwhelmed.  Quite the
contrary!  It was wonderful.  The streets were packed, and every float
was full of local folks, who seemed to know everyone along the parade
route.  There was an incredible sense of community and joy that seems
lost in the huge multi-million dollar parades in big cities that I've
seen before.

So, I have about 1/2 roll in my LX, with a roll in my pocket.  I can
see Claire's float coming, and by then I have about 5 shots left, so I
quick fire them off, so I can load a fresh roll, so I don't get stuck
at the end of a roll whilst shooting her and her float.  I put the
lens cap on, change film, change the shutter dial from Automatic to
1/2000th so that the shutter doesn't stay open interminably while I
fire off the first three pre-shots (you can see where I'm going),
and suddenly my ex yells, here she is.

I run off to snap about 20 or 25 shots of her and her float, quite
thrilled to have gotten that many of her.

On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

Oh well, that's what I get for not paying attention, I guess.  Plus,
that's what I get for regularly switching between 3 or 4 bodies.  I
think I got about 1/2 roll of pretty good parade shots, but missed all
of them of my daughter.  Luckily, someone else got lots of shots which
they'll share with me, but it's not the same.  :-(

Still, a wonderful weekend was had, and most importantly, both my
daughters that still live at home had terrific times!

-frank, back at work on Monday morning...
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


 





Re: PESO: Grace on a Sunday Afternoon

2005-11-21 Thread brooksdj
Mr Brown said:
Forget that swine flu, It won't make you blue.
Its the bug in Mr Chicken,that will give us a lick'n.

Nice shot BTW Paul.

Dave

 Mr. Brown can go, cocka doodle doo!' There 
are so many wonderful things that Mr. Brown
can do.
 
 (Not responsible for the accuracy of the above quote, although I've read the 
 book
several
dozen times. I'm very good at the cork popping sound, and I deliver a decent 
moo.)
 Paul
 
 
  Mr. Brown can moo. Can you?
  
  
  Paul Stenquist wrote:
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3894117size=lg
  
 






Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
 at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
 the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
 and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!
 


Been there, done that, got the poorly exposed film and self-inflicted bruises 
on my derriere to prove it.  I have done it a few times recently, also.  But 
that probably says more baout me than the camera.

m


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Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hope you have not tossed the film. You have two choices, since I know
 you use a custom lab where you have good relations: 1--have them process
 the film by inspection, 2--have them push the film 3 stops, and pray a bit.

 Of course the images will not be as good as if shot at the correct
 exposure, but these are OIALT (once in a life time) shots. You should be
 able to make OK small prints. Heck you may find out you like the results
 from the technique.

Thanks, Tom (and Mark Stringer as well, who posted to the same effect
a few minutes before you).

Now that I think of it, I ~may~ have had the shutter at 1/1000th, not
1/2000th.  And, if the meter was telling me 1/125th and 1/250th, I may
be only off by 2 or 3 stops on some of them.  I'll tell him to push
two stops and hope for the best.  Even those that are off by a stop
may be salvageable at the print stage.

At least there's a chance that I might get a couple that way.

Why didn't I think of that?  OTOH, that's why I love this place!  g.
 Thanks, guys!

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #'s 44 and 45 - GDG

2005-11-21 Thread Mat Maessen
To add another me too to this one, I love the second shot as well.
I'm not sure I'd have the guts to shoot that in a public place, but I
am glad you did. Made my morning here, and I'm not even done with my
first coffee.

-Mat

On 11/20/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whew, feels like forever since I've put a PAW photo up. Figured I'd
 get these two on the site before I leave for NY tomorrow ... two at
 once.

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/44.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/45.htm



Re: According to Herbert Keppler...

2005-11-21 Thread Mat Maessen
I'll buy that for a dollar...
(hey, that's what I paid for my Polaroid 545 holder)

-Mat

On 11/20/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am awaiting an affordable full-frame digital back about the size of a
 Polaroid 545 holder. Full-frame in that sentence means 96mm x 122mm.
 Affordable means Graywolf has enough money to buy it. Such words sure
 are vague, aren't they?



Re: Peso: Outake

2005-11-21 Thread Mat Maessen
This looks to me like a portrait that could only be taken of someone
that you know well, and have known for a long time.

Excellent work.

-Mat

On 11/20/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did a group picture of a family I have known for about 30 years last
 night.
 Roy is one of the people who more or less mentored me into making quality
 pictures.
 Meet Roy.
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/b_w9902.html



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Fred wrote:


As much as I sometimes get annoyed by forced automation, I do see the
advantage to my Super A's, which set the shutter speed automatically at
1/1000 or 1/2000 (I forget which) for the pre-shots, before reverting to
whatever settings were in place before changing rolls.


1/1000. Still, I find the loading system of all the AF Pentaxes to be 
flawless and indispensible.


Kostas



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Toralf Lund


 


On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

   




Been there, done that, got the poorly exposed film and self-inflicted bruises 
on my derriere to prove it.  I have done it a few times recently, also.  But 
that probably says more baout me than the camera.
 


No, it's the camera; you should have used an MESuper instead ;-)

I actually did almost exactly the same trick yesterday, with my body of 
said type, only on that the obvious choice for speed is 1/125. Which 
saved the day, as that turned out to be a quite suitable exposure time 
for the lighting conditions and the aperture I was using ;-)


- T



Re: eBay help

2005-11-21 Thread Gonz



William Robb wrote:

Thanks to all for the offer of help.
Gonz, I bet you don't know what I want, I'll post the auction results 
when it's over




It'l be something interesting I'm sure.  If its pentax 35mm, then I'm 
guessing its the 50mm 1.2 that someone had, or the reflex zoom.



William Robb







Re: Peso: Outake

2005-11-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
William Robb wrote:
 
 I did a group picture of a family I have known for about 30 years last
 night.
 Roy is one of the people who more or less mentored me into making quality
 pictures.
 We would go out and shoot the same locations with each other, sometimes
 shooting every day for weeks on end, then dissapearing into the darkroom for
 several hours and later meeting for coffee and comparing contact sheets and
 work prints.
 He got me involved in bothe medium format and large format cameras, and in
 fact, my BJ view camera came from him, as did the 4x5 enlarger I had been
 using up until I shut my darkroom down three years ago.
 
 Quickie grayscale conversion then some levels adjusting was done.
 
 Meet Roy.
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/b_w9902.html
 
 William Robb

Do they spill white paint on his beard and make
him play Santa at Xmas?

nice shot, Bill
DId you get that lens or not???

a



PAW: Monument Valley at sunrise

2005-11-21 Thread Peter Lacus

http://www.misenet.sk/USA/MV.html

It was pleasant calm dawn and then the Sun began to rise...

Bedo.
--
PS: I changed PESO to PAW because I have some more slides from my 
southwest trip scanned and ready to show you. So stay tuned. ;-)

Hope you won't be disappointed...



Re: Wanted to Buy

2005-11-21 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, i thought another lens would be inorder for her. She has my old 35-70 
 FA and i
 thought i 
 would ask if someone has an F or FA 70-200 or 80-200 AF lens that they are 
 thinking of
 selling.
 
 Thought i would ask here first, and if not i'll explore ebay. I can offer MO 
 or cheque. I
 still don't trust 
 paypal etc.

I have a Tokina 80-200 2.8 that is coming up pre xmas.
It is in excellent condition and was purchased from another list member.

Kind regards
Kevin


-- 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



RE: Monument Valley at sunrise

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Øsleby
Pretty. I like the composition.

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Lacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21. november 2005 18:17
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PAW: Monument Valley at sunrise
 
 http://www.misenet.sk/USA/MV.html
 
 It was pleasant calm dawn and then the Sun began to rise...
 
 Bedo.
 --
 PS: I changed PESO to PAW because I have some more slides from my
 southwest trip scanned and ready to show you. So stay tuned. ;-)
 Hope you won't be disappointed...
 





Re: Which RAW converter?

2005-11-21 Thread Jack Isidore
Rob,
Thanks, this works perfectly in ACR. No need for Pentax Raw anymore.
Jack

On 11/20/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 20 Nov 2005 at 16:35, Jack Isidore wrote:

  Rob,
 
  I will try this. I should have a kodak grey card somewhere. I guess I
  have to shoot this greycard under controlled lighting with the
  different camera white balance settings. Convert it to neutral gray in
  Adobe RAW and save the profile. Correct me if i'm wrong?

 Jack,

 Don't bother with a grey card, it doesn't matter what you shoot, make it 
 1/2000
 with the lens cap on and you'll achieve the same result. All you are trying to
 do is record the embedded colour temperature information in the file, that is
 controlled by the WB selection nothing else. You can then use these recordings
 or the standard in camera colour temp selections to apply in PCR.

 Cheers,



 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998





Re: PAW: Monument Valley at sunrise

2005-11-21 Thread pnstenquist
Beautiful image. You nailed the exposure. Nice work.
Paul


 http://www.misenet.sk/USA/MV.html
 
 It was pleasant calm dawn and then the Sun began to rise...
 
 Bedo.
 --
 PS: I changed PESO to PAW because I have some more slides from my 
 southwest trip scanned and ready to show you. So stay tuned. ;-)
 Hope you won't be disappointed...
 



Re: another harassment by police story

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/19/05, Gary Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 There's a federal law which prohibits the photographing of bridges.
 Yes, it's a stupid law but the police could have arrested the
 photographers instead of just making them delete the images.



I took a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge this summer.

Shit, I'm in big trouble now!

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: RAW: DA12-24 image

2005-11-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
Interesting.  When I downloaded it, it arrived as a 13meg tif which opened
in Camera Raw.

Looks like a keeper lens.  ACR removes colour fringing well.

Powell


At 09:21 PM 15/11/2005 , you wrote:

its about 8Mb, compressed with gzip.  Untouched.

In the folder http://g0nz.com/raw

The file name is da1224.gz


enjoy

rg




Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:
 
 Okay, that's an exaggeration.  It didn't ruin my weekend, but it
 pissed me off some.  And, really, it was my fault, not the camera's
 
 
snip
 I run off to snap about 20 or 25 shots of her and her float, quite
 thrilled to have gotten that many of her.
 
 On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter speed dial
 at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on the overcast day,
 the meter was reading between 1/125th and 1/250th.  I was between 3
 and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!
 
 -frank, back at work on Monday morning...
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

I can't tell you how many times over the years I
did that --
for those of you unfamiliar with the anatomy of an
LX (not many here, I trust, tho)
that 1/2000 setting is right next to the auto
metering button... and you have to
take it off auto to load film, of course. 

Sometimes I caught it in a few frames because I
heard the shutter - once
or twice I shot a whole roll. Now and then it
happened that I was luckily
only 1 or 2 stops under.  Ugh. Poor you.

ann



Re: another harassment by police story

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, Gautam Sarup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  They never check my back pack on the subway
  though.

 You're a lady.  It would be really silly to
 think you were up to something no good.

She may be a woman, but she's no lady g,dr

-frank (no gentleman, now that I think about it...)

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: Monument Valley at sunrise

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.misenet.sk/USA/MV.html

 It was pleasant calm dawn and then the Sun began to rise...

 Bedo.
 --
 PS: I changed PESO to PAW because I have some more slides from my
 southwest trip scanned and ready to show you. So stay tuned. ;-)
 Hope you won't be disappointed...

I'm not disappointed.

It's beautiful.

I believe that Peter Alling and I will have to hate you now (if we
didn't already).

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: another harassment by police story

2005-11-21 Thread Gary Sibio

At 12:49 PM 11/21/2005, you wrote:



I took a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge this summer.

Shit, I'm in big trouble now!


Not until you hear the knock at the door.



Gary J Sibio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand 
binary numbers and those who do not.  



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Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Cotty
Forgive me but am I missing something here? When I had the LX, I seem to
remember loading it and firing off the first couple of frames on auto.
Never seemed a problem. Why switch to a manual speed except of course if
the light's bad, well, just open the ap all the way?

Genuinely,



Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: PESO - First Roll through the MX - Park Bench

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/65160674/

 Pentax MX, PanF+ 50 in Rodinal 1:25, 50mm lens (Not sure which one,
 think it was the SMC-M 50/2)

 -Adam

Right in front of the big church (which one's that?  Metropolitan?  I
know it's not St. James or St. Mike's).  Amazing that you found a
bench in that location not occupied by the less-fortunate.

Anyway, nice, moody shot.

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Forgive me but am I missing something here? When I had the LX, I seem to
 remember loading it and firing off the first couple of frames on auto.
 Never seemed a problem. Why switch to a manual speed except of course if
 the light's bad, well, just open the ap all the way?

 Genuinely,

Dear Mr. Genuinely,

Over the years I got into the habit of putting the lenscap on when I
changed film, so just in case I drop the camera there's that little
extra protection for filter rings and the like.  As well, I like to
have the cap on, just so I know the real photographs from those of
the first couple of wind-ons before 0 LOL.  With a mechanical
camera it's never been a problem.  With the LX, the exposures in the
dark of the lenscap are infinite.  So, I change the shutter speed.

I won't do it that way any more.

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Peso: Outake

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/20/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did a group picture of a family I have known for about 30 years last
 night.
 Roy is one of the people who more or less mentored me into making quality
 pictures.
 We would go out and shoot the same locations with each other, sometimes
 shooting every day for weeks on end, then dissapearing into the darkroom for
 several hours and later meeting for coffee and comparing contact sheets and
 work prints.
 He got me involved in bothe medium format and large format cameras, and in
 fact, my BJ view camera came from him, as did the 4x5 enlarger I had been
 using up until I shut my darkroom down three years ago.

 Quickie grayscale conversion then some levels adjusting was done.

 Meet Roy.
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/b_w9902.html

 William Robb

Great Shot!!

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/11/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Dear Mr. Genuinely,

Over the years I got into the habit of putting the lenscap on when I
changed film, so just in case I drop the camera there's that little
extra protection for filter rings and the like.  As well, I like to
have the cap on, just so I know the real photographs from those of
the first couple of wind-ons before 0 LOL.  With a mechanical
camera it's never been a problem.  With the LX, the exposures in the
dark of the lenscap are infinite.  So, I change the shutter speed.

I won't do it that way any more.

h. I see. Sorry buddy, I missed the bit about the lens cap.

Yeah, well, with the famous LX otf metering, I suppose you'd get quite a
long exposure with the lens cap on - probably in the order of half an
hour or so. But hey, it would be beautifully exposed ;-)LX
wank, er i mean wink




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: PESO - First Roll through the MX - Park Bench

2005-11-21 Thread Adam Maas

frank theriault wrote:

On 11/20/05, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/65160674/

Pentax MX, PanF+ 50 in Rodinal 1:25, 50mm lens (Not sure which one,
think it was the SMC-M 50/2)

-Adam



Right in front of the big church (which one's that?  Metropolitan?  I
know it's not St. James or St. Mike's).  Amazing that you found a
bench in that location not occupied by the less-fortunate.

Anyway, nice, moody shot.

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


That is indeed Metropolitan United Church. And the less fortunate were 
all clustered around one of the chess tables according to another frame 
on the roll.


Thanks.

-Adam



Where to get film developed?

2005-11-21 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
Hi,

I have been in the US only a few months. I typically get my film
developed/printed at a
neighbourhood photo lab that I think is quite expensive at $14 for 36
exposures for
one set of 4x6 prints. Slides are developed/mounted for $9 or so.

Is that regular? I sent out a slide roll yesterday by mail using the
Fuji mailer hoping
that there will no loss in the postal system.

Question: Are the cheaper film mailers any good? Does anyone of a good
lab in the
north-eastern Massachusetts area (north of Boston or southern New Hampshire).

How much would you expect to pay for a 8x10 or 8x12 print from a
negative? And where
do you usually buy the mount/frames/matte/border or whatever it is
called to put around
a print when you want to show it to others.

Thanks a lot!
Gaurav



Re: Wanted to Buy

2005-11-21 Thread brooksdj
Kevin
Is this the mf or AF model.
F2.8  is to good for a learner. Now maybe for me:-)

Dave   

 This one time, at band camp, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So, i thought another lens would be inorder for her. She has my old 
  35-70 FA and i
  thought i 
  would ask if someone has an F or FA 70-200 or 80-200 AF lens that they are 
  thinking of
  selling.
  
  Thought i would ask here first, and if not i'll explore ebay. I can offer 
  MO or
cheque.
I
  still don't trust 
  paypal etc.
 
 I have a Tokina 80-200 2.8 that is coming up pre xmas.
 It is in excellent condition and was purchased from another list member.
 
 Kind regards
 Kevin
 
 
 -- 
 Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
 Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
 






Re: Which RAW converter?

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Kennedy
I've just started playing with RawShooter, (instead of Elements3)  for
batch work .
Too early to draw any conclusions, other than bringing the batch
outputs into the PSE3 Organizer is another step in the workflow. 
(sigh) It keeps growing

(by the way, I'm firmly in the Raw camp now).

dk

On 11/20/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've heard from a large number of people using PSE3 and 4 along with
 ACR. They seem to be satisfied with it.

 Similarly, a lot of folks like RawShooter Essentials. I can't
 evaluate that one as it does not run on Mac OS X, and I only use Mac
 OS X. But from comparison tests I've seen, ACR does a better job.

 Godfrey

 On Nov 20, 2005, at 6:59 AM, Mark Stringer wrote:

  Is anyone happy using Adobe Elements 4 and Adobe Raw converter?
 
  What about RawShooter?





Re: Wanted to Buy

2005-11-21 Thread Dave Kennedy
Sigh... Just after blowing my gear savings on a new flash and portable storage.

(my wife keeps saying she will not buy me camera gear for Christmas).

dk


 I have a Tokina 80-200 2.8 that is coming up pre xmas.
 It is in excellent condition and was purchased from another list member.

 Kind regards
 Kevin





Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Jack Davis
Same lens cap/locked shutter and body cap/locked shutter. Many times
I've removed the lens/body cap and held the LX near a light to hasten
the release.
Many times, when getting organized to take off for a shoot, I'd check
the bodies to see which were loaded. Often the LX had no lens attached,
only the body cap.
I've uttered/mentally yelled rude descriptions of myself as well as
when I later forgot to return the mode selector to A.(my default
setting).
I remember more than once, being miles down the road after leaving a
shoot and breaking into a queasy cold sweat realizing there was no
recollection of having either re-set the mode or (when I switched film
speeds) changed the ISO setting..
They're few greater feelings, however, than pulling over, taking the
camera out of the bag and discovering you HAD remembered to make the
control changes. VERY RARE!

Jack
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 11/21/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Forgive me but am I missing something here? When I had the LX, I
 seem to
  remember loading it and firing off the first couple of frames on
 auto.
  Never seemed a problem. Why switch to a manual speed except of
 course if
  the light's bad, well, just open the ap all the way?
 
  Genuinely,
 
 Dear Mr. Genuinely,
 
 Over the years I got into the habit of putting the lenscap on when I
 changed film, so just in case I drop the camera there's that little
 extra protection for filter rings and the like.  As well, I like to
 have the cap on, just so I know the real photographs from those of
 the first couple of wind-ons before 0 LOL.  With a mechanical
 camera it's never been a problem.  With the LX, the exposures in the
 dark of the lenscap are infinite.  So, I change the shutter speed.
 
 I won't do it that way any more.
 
 -frank
 
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 





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Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread brooksdj
I was going to suggest developing at 2-3 push stops and hope. But i see thats 
been
done.vbg

Bummer that had to happen Frank.

My film mishaps were more, open up the back of the camera not thinking film was 
still in
there.:-)

Now if i shoot a mechanical camera i wind the rewind knob to see if there is 
tension
before opening. 
In the case of the 6x7, sometimes the locks at the base plate are knocked out a 
bit by my
hand or brush 
or what have you and the film does not advance properly and when the back is 
opened
thinking i have 
shot 10 frames there is the paper smiling back at me.:-)

Dave 

 On 11/21/05, graywolf 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hope you have not tossed the film. You have two choices, since I know
  you use a custom lab where you have good relations: 1--have them process
  the film by inspection, 2--have them push the film 3 stops, and pray a bit.
 
  Of course the images will not be as good as if shot at the correct
  exposure, but these are OIALT (once in a life time) shots. You should be
  able to make OK small prints. Heck you may find out you like the results
  from the technique.
 





BURT: Losin' it???

2005-11-21 Thread macburt


Am I losing it or has Pentax dropped the *istD and DS from its lineup?
Seems they only show the DS2 and DL.
Could it be that Pentax is about to enter the new era of Pro DSLRs?
Will Samsung drag them kicking into the market to compete with the 
fantastic Nikon D200?
Forget about the Canon 5D. Never really liked the feel of any Canon 
after the AE-1.

Maybe I should wait for Easter before I switch and Passover Pentax?



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's nonsense.  One doesn't have to switch the camera to manual and a
high shutter speed when loading film.  As we can see by all these stories
of screw-ups, it's probably not a well advised idea.  If you're shooting on
auto, leave the settings exactly where they were when you change film, load
film and wind on as normal.  If it is of concern that there may be a few
exposed frames that could later confuse you or your lab as to what should
be printed, then just point the camera down when winding on and expose the
street or floor.  There will be no mistake as to where the real photos
start.

Please explain to those who are ignorant of such things why you have to
switch from auto to manual.  Thanks,

Shel 
(5 LX's, hundreds of rolls of film, never switched when loading)
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele 


 for those of you unfamiliar with the anatomy of an
 LX (not many here, I trust, tho)
 that 1/2000 setting is right next to the auto
 metering button... and you have to
 take it off auto to load film, of course. 




Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
How would you use MLU without a tripod?

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


Boris wrote:

 I think I can live with Pentax 645 and 75/2.8 lens... 
 But I think I'd want a MLU so that I won't have to 
 haul a tripod with me *all the time*
  if I go shooting MF...




Re: Peso: Outake

2005-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why do you say that?

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Mat Maessen 

 This looks to me like a portrait that could only be taken of someone
 that you know well, and have known for a long time.

 Excellent work.

 -Mat

 On 11/20/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did a group picture of a family I have known for about 30 years last
  night.
  Roy is one of the people who more or less mentored me into making
quality
  pictures.
  Meet Roy.
  http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/b_w9902.html




Re: another harassment by police story

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11/19/05, Gary Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a federal law which prohibits the photographing of bridges.
 Yes, it's a stupid law but the police could have arrested the
 photographers instead of just making them delete the images.

I took a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge this summer.

Shit, I'm in big trouble now!

You'll never take me alive copper!
I shot this pano this morning:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/bridge.jpg

BTW Frank: There was some discussion of this yesterday and it seems the
no bridge photography thing is an NYC ordinance, not a federal law.
That'll keep me out of jail as my shot's in Pittsburgh, but I'm afraid
your Brooklyn Bridge photo doesn't escape so easily...
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: another harassment by police story

2005-11-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
graywolf wrote:
 
 Actually, I was expecting a response about like we got when someone
 called you Anne. Hum...? Lady Anne? grinning and ducking
 
 graywolf
 http://www.graywolfphoto.com
 Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
 ---
 
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

or, that was no lady that was 
ann

 
 William Robb wrote:
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Gautam Sarup
 Subject: RE: another harassment by police story
 
 
 
 From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 They never check my back pack on the subway
 though.
 
 
 You're a lady.  It would be really silly to
 think you were up to something no good.
 
 
 Obviously, you've never met Ann.
 HAR!!!
 I just can't help myself.
 WW
 
 
 
 
 Damn - got that comment in before I could out
 myself! :)
 
 ann
 
 
 
 



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Cotty wrote:
 
 On 21/11/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Dear Mr. Genuinely,
 
 Over the years I got into the habit of putting the lenscap on when I
 changed film, so just in case I drop the camera there's that little
 extra protection for filter rings and the like.  As well, I like to
 have the cap on, just so I know the real photographs from those of
 the first couple of wind-ons before 0 LOL.  With a mechanical
 camera it's never been a problem.  With the LX, the exposures in the
 dark of the lenscap are infinite.  So, I change the shutter speed.
 
 I won't do it that way any more.
 
 h. I see. Sorry buddy, I missed the bit about the lens cap.
 
 Yeah, well, with the famous LX otf metering, I suppose you'd get quite a
 long exposure with the lens cap on - probably in the order of half an
 hour or so. But hey, it would be beautifully exposed ;-)LX
 wank, er i mean wink
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty

There were a lot of us who mentioned doing that. 
I always switched to 1/2000,
set aperture at f22 and put the camera face down
on a table or on my bag -
to minimize light -

Lens cap? hmmm, I've heard of them but... ;)

ann

 
 ___/\__
 ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
 ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
 _



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread graywolf
In really does not make any difference how old or primitive the camera. 
Any large format photographer who says he has not taken some gorgeous 
photos of his darkslides is a liar. My most likely mistake with the MXen 
is to change the lens and not set the f-stop. Somehow I have done 
several shots with the digital where the flash went off and everything, 
but there was no image (still trying to figure that one out). Then there 
is the old shooting in the church trick of turning towards the windows 
and carefully setting exposure compensation for the back light, then 
going back to normal shots without turning off the exposure compensation 
(seems to be my favorite trick with an ME Super).


My favorite* one however is the time I asked the camera store guy for 
some 100 speed slide film, popped it in the camera and shot it in a 
non-reshootable situation, and only notice when I go to put the second 
roll in that he had given me 200 speed slide film. So I pay them extra 
to have them pull it one stop, and they pulled it 2 stops. After that 
they never sold me any more film, nor did any processing for me.


*not the correct word for it

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was going to suggest developing at 2-3 push stops and hope. But i see thats 
been
done.vbg

Bummer that had to happen Frank.

My film mishaps were more, open up the back of the camera not thinking film was 
still in
there.:-)

Now if i shoot a mechanical camera i wind the rewind knob to see if there is 
tension
before opening. 
In the case of the 6x7, sometimes the locks at the base plate are knocked out a bit by my
hand or brush 
or what have you and the film does not advance properly and when the back is opened
thinking i have 
shot 10 frames there is the paper smiling back at me.:-)


Dave 

 On 11/21/05, graywolf 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Hope you have not tossed the film. You have two choices, since I know
you use a custom lab where you have good relations: 1--have them process
the film by inspection, 2--have them push the film 3 stops, and pray a bit.

Of course the images will not be as good as if shot at the correct
exposure, but these are OIALT (once in a life time) shots. You should be
able to make OK small prints. Heck you may find out you like the results
from the technique.
 






 





Flash light on-line movie

2005-11-21 Thread Jens Bladt
Does any of you guys still have the link for a flash site, where some guy is
demonstrating different flashes (some movie file), screens etc. I remember
he said that the larger the light source is, the softer the light.
Answers are greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk






Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why?  What difference does it make if the frames are more or less exposed?

Shel 
You meet the nicest people with a Pentax 


 [Original Message]
 From: Ann Sanfedele

 I always switched to 1/2000,
 set aperture at f22 and put the camera face down
 on a table or on my bag -
 to minimize light -




Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Nov 2005 at 13:12, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 Please explain to those who are ignorant of such things why you have to
 switch from auto to manual.  Thanks,

Of course no one has to it just offers a far more consistent method to load 
film. In marginal light you can end up waiting a few seconds between film 
advances that is unless you pop up the camera to find a light source, IOW it's 
far easier just pre-setting the film speed dial. Been loading film this way for 
almost 20 years now, I haven't accidentally left the camera on auto for more 
than a decade now.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: another harassment by police story

2005-11-21 Thread Bob W
That bridge looks familiar. Am I right in thinking that W E Smith
photographed it quite a lot?

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 21 November 2005 21:28
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: another harassment by police story
 
 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 11/19/05, Gary Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There's a federal law which prohibits the photographing of bridges.
  Yes, it's a stupid law but the police could have arrested the 
  photographers instead of just making them delete the images.
 
 I took a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge this summer.
 
 Shit, I'm in big trouble now!
 
 You'll never take me alive copper!
 I shot this pano this morning:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/bridge.jpg
 
 BTW Frank: There was some discussion of this yesterday and it 
 seems the no bridge photography thing is an NYC ordinance, 
 not a federal law.
 That'll keep me out of jail as my shot's in Pittsburgh, but 
 I'm afraid your Brooklyn Bridge photo doesn't escape so easily...
  
  
 --
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 



Re: Possibility of Medium Format enablement

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How would you use MLU without a tripod?


Aaron Reynolds claimed to be able to do it - did it all the time (so he said).

But he was the Senior Brother of the Brotherhood...  LOL

Aaron?  Can you respond?  g

-frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Bob W
 On the way to the car, I notice that I'd left the shutter 
 speed dial at 1/2000th.  I was shooting at about f5.6, and on 
 the overcast day, the meter was reading between 1/125th and 
 1/250th.  I was between 3 and 4 stops underexposed.  Poop!

Frank,

never mind - it could be worse. On my first trip to the US I spent an entire
day shooting with no film in the LX. I kept thinking to myself this film's
lasting a long time, but was too dumb to check the dial...

Bob



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread frank theriault
On 11/21/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why?  What difference does it make if the frames are more or less exposed?


I wouldn't want to mix up the real photographs with the accidents.  LOL

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: BURT: Losin' it???

2005-11-21 Thread Adam Maas

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Am I losing it or has Pentax dropped the *istD and DS from its lineup?
Seems they only show the DS2 and DL.
Could it be that Pentax is about to enter the new era of Pro DSLRs?
Will Samsung drag them kicking into the market to compete with the 
fantastic Nikon D200?
Forget about the Canon 5D. Never really liked the feel of any Canon 
after the AE-1.

Maybe I should wait for Easter before I switch and Passover Pentax?


The D is on life support, Pentax is selling off it's remaining stock but 
as far as I'm aware they are no longer manufacturing the D. The DS was 
replaced by the DS2 two months ago and hasn't been commonly available 
since the end of August.


-Adam



Re: OT: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Adam Maas

frank theriault wrote:

On 11/21/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why?  What difference does it make if the frames are more or less exposed?




I wouldn't want to mix up the real photographs with the accidents.  LOL

-frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson


I've gotten some very good accidents.

So many I now load for the frame before first.

-Adam



RE: How my LX Ruined my Weekend

2005-11-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Nov 2005 at 22:01, Bob W wrote:

 never mind - it could be worse. On my first trip to the US I spent an entire 
 day
 shooting with no film in the LX. I kept thinking to myself this film's 
 lasting
 a long time, but was too dumb to check the dial...

Hmm, I shot off the top of the WTC tower with the film mis-loaded in my M6, I 
only made a few shots but I worked it out after we'd left the building, I 
always check the rewind crank whilst loading now :-(


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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