Re: Re: Help Flash coverage with a 10-20 zoom

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/23 Thu PM 04:49:11 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Help Flash coverage with a 10-20 zoom
 
 Look into LumiQuest bounce/diffuser accessories for your flash unit.  
 They're head and shoulders above the Stofen diffuser, which is no  
 better than finding a big white pill bottle and cutting it to fit  
 over a flash head.
 
 I use the LumiQuest UltraSoft and Mini SoftBox diffusers all the  
 time. The latter costs about 1.5-2.5 stops of light, so you need a  
 reasonably powerful flash unit to get reach.
 
 Godfrey

Buy some Fuji film, throw the film away.  Take the plastic canister and cut the 
bottom off.  Slit one side from top to bottom.  You can then usually fit it 
onto the flash head in the groove for the OEM attachment. Double up if it's not 
wide enough.

A use for film - who would have thought it?

m


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Re: Samsung announces GX-L1

2006-02-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
They still haven't figured out that S means S (pentaprism and 11-segment AF) 
and L means L (pentamirror and 5-segment AF).


GX-1S is the *istDS2
GX-1L is the *istDL2

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:10 AM
Subject: Samsung announces GX-L1



http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022403samsunggx1l.asp

Loos like another rebadged DS2 or DL2. It does say pentaprism, so that
would make it a DS2. Although the L in the name is suspicious, and
probably the report is mistaken.

j

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Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:27:11PM -0500, Mishka wrote:
 i think they are leveraging that with small limited lenses
 quite nicely. if there was a choice, usm or small primes,
 i would pick the second. perhaps that's not what pros
 need -- than i'm happy pentax is not pro oriented.
 
 best,
 mishka

I expect the 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 zooms to be quite
good enough for a lot of so-called pro work - after all,
the FA* 28-70  80-200 zooms were outstanding performers.

It's interesting that the new lenses don't get called DA*;
perhaps that's just too confusing with *ist bodies as well.



Re: More pics of the new stuff

2006-02-24 Thread Thibouille
There is a narrow/large sensor selector at the right of the eyepiece.

2006/2/24, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html

 Can anyone find an autofocus sensor selector on the 645D?

 --

 Yes

 --

 Well, good for you, Pål. Do you want to share with the rest of
 us where it is?

 Joe




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Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...

2006-02-24 Thread Thibouille
No problem, I'll owe you both a beer, then ;)

2006/2/23, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thibouille,

 I'm afraid you owe Mark, not me, a beer. I've just reported old and recent
 rumors already heard here.

 However, I'll be happy to accept your kind offer and raise a glass on his
 behalf the first time I'll meet you :-)

 Dario

 - Original Message -
 From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Another pre-PMA rumour...


  If you're right I owe you a beer, Dario, I promise.
  If you come to Belgium or we mmet anywhere else...
 
  Regards,
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  --
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RE: Re: Skiing with cameras...

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm not really expecting to carry a camera while I whizz down the slopes 

That will be a quick route to an early arrest.


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Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
LOL  I don't think we're too far apart on many things ... 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 How is it that we agree so much on some things, Shel? ;-)

 Godfrey

 On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  Some people care about specs, others care about making photographs.




Re: OT: Western Union fraud

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
 ps: is there any other reliable way to wire money to Central Europe from the 
 US?
 

I've sent money many times to Poland via simple bank transfer, using IBAN and 
SWIFT numbers.  Both times I have used WU (at the request of the recipient) I 
have had problems with delay and paperwork.

mike


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Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread dagt
Why shouldn't the pancakes be considered as pro lenses?

I'm wondering is they are aiming at the old rangefinder market.  A lot of pros 
liked Leica M6 because of their compact size and good lenses...

DagT

 fra: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 i think they are leveraging that with small limited lenses
 quite nicely. if there was a choice, usm or small primes,
 i would pick the second. perhaps that's not what pros
 need -- than i'm happy pentax is not pro oriented.
 
 best,
 mishka
 
 On 2/23/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  missing is USM
 
 



Re: More pics of the new stuff

2006-02-24 Thread David Savage
Left side of the top panel. Slide switch marked AF.C  AF.S.

Dave

On 2/24/06, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html

 Can anyone find an autofocus sensor selector on the 645D?

 --

 Yes

 --

 Well, good for you, Pål. Do you want to share with the rest of
 us where it is?

 Joe





Re: A closer look at the new D2

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4155243size=lg


Does nae work :-(

Kostas



Re: It's here (was: Another pre-PMA rumour...)

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


I'd sure be disappointed if it had image stabilization, a feature I'd not
want to pay for either with dollars or with weight and complexity.


Just like with the D, wait for the cut-down versions. Unlike the D, 
they may be badged Samsung.


Kostas



Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote:


There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well.

Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive.


Not really, it's a DA.

But they plan a DFA55/2.8. I will buy it in a flash. Not.

Kostas



Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:52 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

I guess it does. Their conservatism however does little now for the 
photography that I like to pursue. ...


And what kind of photography is that, really? Have you defined it?


Yes, but you deleted it:

The LX with its superb finders and the old array of high 
performance fast lenses made a pretty smick kit for low light work.


If the new DLSR behaves similarly to the D200 at high ISO I doubt 
that I'm going to be overly excited, proof is in the pudding of 
course be it a year ore more away. It's apparent that Pentax are 
heading in a totally different direction now, they are carving a 
niche of kit biased towards small rather than fast.


I too am changing my tack and will discuss with the powers that be to 
up my price for an MZ-S. I am also stuck with the F70-210, but hey-ho.


Kostas



Re: It's here

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 23, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:


There have been cases of strange banding--courduroy noise in D200
images in low light. However, Ken Rockwell loves it and says it isn't
a problem.



He probably wears a three-piece corduroy suit.

Bob



Re: Pentax announcement (rumors fulfilled)

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Juan Buhler wrote:


A manual focus camera would include some focusing aid that is not
common in an AF one, like a split image prism of something like that.


Just change it for the MZ-M screen. You will lose accuracy on 
spot-metering (which I don't think the MZ-M featured, but may be 
wrong).


Kostas



Re: [Bulk]

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, K.Takeshita wrote:


I have to apologize that my postings carry this annoying [BULK] prefix.


Keep posting Ken :-)

Kostas



Re: OT: Western Union fraud

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Cotty wrote:



I have read enough to know that I would rather have bamboo inserted
under my fingernails than use WU !



Occasionally someone in east Europe has to send me money.  WU is  
really the only convenient option.  I'm located in Virginia, and the  
abbreviation is VA.  Two out of three times the person at the WU  
office in Europe will write VI.  That's the abbreviation for Virgin  
Islands.  When that happens the money takes a nice vacation in the  
Caribbean for a week or two until the people at WU can re-route it  
from there to here.  So far it has always come through, though.  I  
now tell people who have to use WU about this and ask them to make  
absolutely sure the person at the WU office uses the correct  
abbreviation.  Other than that I have never had any sort of problem  
with WU on a fairly large number of transactions.  They do seem to  
give stupidity tests to the people who work for them, though, and  
only hire those with the lowest scores.


Bob



Re: Camera bag

2006-02-24 Thread Don Williams
I bought this one 7553927412 -- a Tamrac 
5682. I think it will do for me. There are 
bigger, better and more expensive models but 
I have a larger bag as well.


Don

Christian wrote:

Don Williams wrote:
Does anyone know how good Tamrac bags are? I'dlike to get one to hold 
the *ist D on my belt.


Don


I have one like this:
http://www.tamrac.com/515.htm

Which I used for the *ist D and liked very much.  I'm selling it because 
I don't tend to use small bags anymore.




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Re: A closer look at the new D2

2006-02-24 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Paul,

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:03:10 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The autofocus selector appears to be the same, but the order is 
reversed. It looks like there's a PC connector on that side with a 
cover. 

No, it is the autofocus selector switch, it has changed from 
a slider switch to a rotating one, see the white dot marking
the current setting (pointing to the the AF.S text).

I expect the PC-connector, if any, to be nicely hidden
under a connector-door, that you can almost see the
grip for at the left-back side of the body.
(right side in that photograph)

Regards, JvW

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Re: More pics of the new stuff

2006-02-24 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:14:33 -0800, Marco Alpert wrote:

Photo of the 21mm and the back of the 645D here:

http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/200609.html

Hmm, I like the new design for the 4-way controller,
hope the D replacement has a similar one now :-)

Regards, JvW


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More new lenes comin this year

2006-02-24 Thread Margus Männik

Take a look:
http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf

Besides DA21/3.2 Limited, there should also appear D FA 55/2.8, DA70/2.4 
Limited, DA 16-50/2.8 and DA 50-135/2.8 this year.


BR, Margus




Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
You can get two of the new Pentax for the price of one 5D. Or you could 
make a sizable down payment on the 645D, which apparently will be much 
higher spec than the 5D.

On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Tom C wrote:

I was comparing it to that, largely because if I was going to make a 
jump, it wouldn't be a small one.


Tom C.





From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Lens Road Map revised
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:31:47 -0500

Tom C wrote:


I don't see how you can call it under-spec'd compared to Canon 
(especially without seeing it's specs).  You cannot compare it to 
the 5D.  That's a whole other animal.


You're right in a sense.  Except that's what I was comparing it to.

Tom C.


You can only compare it to the 5D if it has a full-35mm-sized sensor. 
It doesn't so the only fair comparison is 20D/30D and D200.  That's 
Pentax's target.  Not the full-frame market.  Apples-oranges.



--

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Re: Seeking advice on photographing cyclists

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

Tour 2 is an excellent shot. Good work.
Paul
On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:39 PM, David Mann wrote:


On Feb 23, 2006, at 4:50 PM, John Francis wrote:


Now moved to
http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/AmgenTour1.jpg
A much better shot, from today's time trials:
http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/AmgenTour2.jpg


You're becoming quite good at photographing people who are wearing 
bright green clothing :)


- Dave





Re: FA 10-17mm lens

2006-02-24 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Bill,

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:59:24 -0600, William Robb wrote:

I decided I liked the 10-17mm lens enough to take it home.

What a coincidence, I just ordered one yesterday :-)

(It is out of stock though, have to wait 10 days)

I can see myself getting to know some distortion removal software.
I like the wideness.

So do I, but have the 14mm for that too.

I expect the extreme wideness to be useful for many outdoor
nature shots, without needing correction. I used to do that with
the 17mm f/4 fisheye on film ...

Its really nicely built, it feels nicer than the 2 Limiteds that I have.

Good to know ...

Now wait for the 21mm limited :-)

Regards, JvW


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Re: It's here

2006-02-24 Thread Cory Papenfuss
My sentiments exactly. I've just finished selling off the rest of my pre-AF 
Pentax lenses (keeping only the A50/2.8 Macro) since I've replaced all of 
them with the newer, better performing current series offerings. Adding cost 
to the package to support 20+ year old lenses is less desirable to me than 
making a very fine camera with good ergonomics, responsiveness, etc.


	It's been well-established (primarily by the short burst from a 
troll awhile back) that it's a very minimal additional expense.  I for 
one, can't think of any single feature that I would like better than 
full k-mount support.  Without it, I doubt there will be any incentive for 
me to upgrade.


-Cory

 --

*
* Cory Papenfuss*
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Re: *IST-D / DS High speed action!

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Exactly. And straightforward, easy-to-use cameras are capable of 
anything most photographers might attempt. The lone exception might be 
top-level sports journalism. But even for motorsports or the occasional 
sporting event, the new Pentax should prove excellent. Hell, the 
current D gets the job done. If Jens or anyone else plans on being one 
of those guys standing behind the end zone (or the goal) with their 
lookalike Canon outfits, then they should switch. For the rest of us, 
the new camera will be just fine. I can't believe anyone here was 
realistically expecting an $8000, 8fps monster camera. If they were, 
I'd like to have some of what they've been drinking.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:02 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I'm pretty much on the same page as Juan.  Not everyone needs all the 
high

specs so many on this list so frequently cry out for.  I don't want to
carry the weight around, I don't want big, honking zoom lenses, I don't
want high-speed motor drives ... a nice simple camera that makes good
pictures is just perfect.  Small lenses with good resolution and a nice
fingerprint are more important than slow, zoom lenses that cover 300mm 
of

focal range.  Straightforward, easy-to-use cameras are what I like.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 2/23/2006 7:01:44 PM
Subject: Re: *IST-D / DS  High speed action!

On 2/23/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pentax don't want to be at the stadium. If they did, they'd make a 
5-8

FPS

body and a lot of 1.4-2.8 (digital) lenses. They obviously don't want

to.


This is a great thing! There are plenty of options already from Canon
and Nikon. People should use one of those if that's what they need.
Why would it be a good thing to have yet another brand making cameras
like that?  I like my small, no frills Pentaxes that stay out of the
way while I  try to create art with them.

[...]
Only people who bring a camera while they are really doing OTHER 
things

care

about size and weight.


Speak for yourself. If you are walking around in a city for six hours
in a row shooting people in the street, camera strapped to your wrist,
size and weight become a big issue. When I do that I'm not doing
anything else, btw.

Give me a small istD with an FA35 over a 20S with whatever lens is
equivalent anytime.

j
(who couldn't care less about sports photography)

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Re: Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/24 Fri AM 09:57:53 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Lens Road Map revised
 
 On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, John Francis wrote:
 
  There's a DA 50-135/2.8 on the way as well.
 
  Looks like 2006 is going to be expensive.
 
 Not really, it's a DA.
 
 But they plan a DFA55/2.8. I will buy it in a flash. Not.
 


Now, now, Kostas.  You know that sort of talk is frowned upon.  If you can't 
say anything nice, just hold up your stick with the cut-out smile on it.


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Re: Re: It's here

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/24 Fri AM 10:12:24 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: It's here
 
 
 On Feb 23, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
 
  There have been cases of strange banding--courduroy noise in D200
  images in low light. However, Ken Rockwell loves it and says it isn't
  a problem.
 
 
 He probably wears a three-piece corduroy suit.
 

In bed.

Oh dear - I think I need to go and wash my mind out.


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Re: Pentax announcement (rumors fulfilled)

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm with Godfrey on that one. I have the scribed H and V grid screen in 
my LX. It's perfect. I too am annoyed by a split image in the middle of 
the screen.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:13 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:


A manual focus camera would include some focusing aid that is not
common in an AF one, like a split image prism of something like that.


Funny, but I've always replaced the standard focusing screens in all 
my manual focus SLRs with a plain matte fresnel focusing screen (with 
scribed H and V reference grid). Those darn focusing aids get in the 
way for me.


AF SLR screens are cleaner, in general, and less annoying. ;-)

Godfrey





Re: A closer look at the new D2

2006-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
I deleted it. It was just a blowup of the Steve's pic. The Pentax shot 
referenced in another thread is much higher resolution.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4155243size=lg


Does nae work :-(

Kostas





Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-24 Thread Lon Williamson

Frank mentioned that this is in his Public Phone collection.
Personally, I think the US FBI should investigate this apparently
harmless Canadian.  PINKO bunnie ears, an intrest in
telecommunications, and a camera.  Terrorist tie ins?
Excessive use of catsup and/or vinegar on potatoes?  Bush would
lock him up in a blue second.

Not a bad shot, though.  I like Frank's style, mostly because
his pix, to me at least, seem to indicate he gets fun outta this stuff.
That's not all bad, by a long shot.

-Lon

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Mildly amusing.  I'm not much of a fan of the hand in the face shot -
probably because I have so many of them of my wife.




Re: Pentax announcement (rumors fulfilled)

2006-02-24 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
 --- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
 Just change it for the MZ-M screen. You will lose
 accuracy on 
 spot-metering (which I don't think the MZ-M
 featured, but may be 
 wrong).

You are not wrong.
With the MZ-M you only have multisegment metering (2
or 3 segments only) with A and AF lenses, and only CW
with pre-A lenses. Unfortunately, no spot available.

Actually, this is one of the weakest points of this
camera, which I consider a great learning tool.



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Re: Most compact DSLR

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ya, with a 6,000 pixel sensor.   Bob S.

On 2/24/06, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks like Canon's got us beat again:

 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/eos1_14l.jpg

-Marco





Re: More pics of the new stuff

2006-02-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I count definitely three, and possibly five or seven bits of tape.  I think
this is Juan's camera LOL

Must be. Cesar would have used snakeskin!
 
 
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Re: FA 10-17mm lens

2006-02-24 Thread w__robb
Quoting Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 sorry -- i meant full APS frame fisheye, that is, on *istD.

That it is.

Now I'm stuck using webmail.
How Hoovery.

William Robb


 best,
 mishka

 On 2/24/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   at 10mm, is it a full-frame fisheye?
  best,
  mishka
 
  No. I just stuck it onto an LX and put the front against my monitor. It
  never stops vignetting, though it looks like it is minimal from 14mm to
  17mm.
 
  Still no email coming in, but the website is refreshing really quickly.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 




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Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Jon Myers
What's wrong with the 55/2.8? It is for the 645D,
after all - according to the english version of that
roadmap.

--- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 But they plan a DFA55/2.8. I will buy it in a flash.
 Not.


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Re: It's here

2006-02-24 Thread brooksdj
Over on the Nikon BB, there are about a dozen members with the D200. One has 
reported
banding and 
Nikon UK is fixing it free. Nikonn is aware of this problem, not like the D2H 
were they
buried their 
collective heads in the sand about the AE board.
As far as KW, how can a guy who shoots basic Jpeg affect my desisions.gBut i 
must add, he
actuall 
tried this camera.


Dave

 The issue Nikon's been having with the early 
production D200s isn't  
 the sensor itself. It's in some of the supporting hardware and  
 adjustable/controllable, within limits of course. People who are  
 experiencing a problem are being told to return their cameras for a  
 service to eliminate it. From what I was told by a Nikon tech, it's  
 simply changing some small setting or resistor.
 
 I think the choice of sensor is excellent. By the time Pentax goes  
 into production on it, all the kinks with the components should be  
 well known and easy for them to eliminate in the final product.
 
 Godfrey
Patience is rewarded.
 
 On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
 
  There have been cases of strange banding--courduroy noise in D200
  images in low light. However, Ken Rockwell loves it and says it isn't
  a problem.
 






Re: OT: Western Union fraud

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
$1,700 is a matter for the police.
Report it and take the officers back with her to the Western Union office.
It's the clerk on duty at the time she made the deposit.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 2/24/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Cotty, Shel, Tom. She is going to use a bank transfer for the
 bulk of it, but needed to have this money over there within the day,
 thus the reason she went to Western Union.

 I saw the fake signature, and boy, it is a bad fake. I recognized it
 as such without a reference to the real one. I'm sure an expert would
 prove it is fake without trouble.

 They have security cameras at the place. Also, the transaction time
 (they said Rolling Red went back for the money around 6) doesn't make
 sense. She has witnesses that she was at work at that time.

 I'm just very angry at all this, and I'm trying to stop myself from
 going there and talking with them myself. I do hope the people
 responsible (we have an educated guess as to who exactly that is) end
 up in jail over this.

 j

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Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Jon Myers wrote:


What's wrong with the 55/2.8? It is for the 645D,
after all - according to the english version of that
roadmap.


Thanks, I read that later on. What is wrong is that it would benefit 
from not being on the same roadmap as the K-mount products.


Kostas



looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Looking at the back-side image:
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg

1.  Note the side tripod mount for vertical shooting.  A very 
practical feature.  Just add your favorite quick-release plate.


2.  The large media door could indicate either (a) CF or (b) multiple 
media (use CF or SD)
(c) put in more than one and when #1 is filled, start on #2.  (I 
would hope for (c) but it's probably (a) )


3.  Regarding the two taped-over covers at the bottom .. USB, 
Firewire, and perhaps ethernet?

How about a wired remote control connection?

4.  The separation of metering  af point selection (to the left and 
right of the eyepiece)
seems very practical.  Far better than going through the menu.  This 
would be nice to

have on the 135-format DSLRs.

5.  The exposure mode knob looks like they took one off another body 
and taped over the things

which weren't needed.  Sloppy tape job for a press release.

6.  Did you catch the LCD backlight button to the right of the 
display?  Nice  practical.


I hope it lives up to the prototype in this press release.  Many pros 
will be very pleased.



CRB


He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Re: Most compact DSLR

2006-02-24 Thread frank theriault
On 2/24/06, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks like Canon's got us beat again:

 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/eos1_14l.jpg


Yeah, but the ergonomics are an absolute pig.

-frank

g


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Re: OT: Western Union fraud

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


$1,700 is a matter for the police.



Definitely.  That's grand larceny.

Bob



Re: Most compact DSLR

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell





On 2/24/06, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looks like Canon's got us beat again:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/eos1_14l.jpg




Anybody here read Japanese?  Is that actually a working camera?

Bob



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Looking at the back-side image:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg
 

 3.  Regarding the two taped-over covers at the bottom .. USB, 
 Firewire, and perhaps ethernet?
 How about a wired remote control connection?

My thoughts, also.

This seems like a much more desireable option than the Kmount.  I count 8 
pieces of tape.  What can the two be that are on the bottom edge of the top LCD 
screen?

mike


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Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Dario Bonazza

And what about the 1/4000 shutter speed?

Dario



Re: Most compact DSLR

2006-02-24 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/24/06 8:04 AM, Bob Shell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/24/06, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks like Canon's got us beat again:
 
 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/eos1_14l.jpg
 
 
 
 Anybody here read Japanese?  Is that actually a working camera?

No.  See below (and perhaps put it through babelfish etc).

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/

It is a miniature model of EF 600mm F4 IS USM  EOS-1Ds Mark II, offered as
a prize for some sort of questionnaire (or contest).  These are made
commemorating the 30 millionth EF lens.  Body  lens are attached by magnet.

Hilarious thing about this is the asterisked note in red.

 This is not a working model.  Lens cannot be used as a telescope.  No
spark or flash effect from the tip of the lens.

Ken



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 2/24/06 13:57, Collin R Brendemuehl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking at the back-side image:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg
Looking at the LCD - 1/4000 s is shown - that would mean new shutter unit,
perhaps with faster 1/125 s flash sync and maybe with support for P-TTL and
HSS flash - that would be the first in MF ;-)

-- 
Best regards
Sylwek



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:

I hope it lives up to the prototype in this press release.  Many pros will be 
very pleased.


Very good points snipped. On the one I have left: in the good old days 
the interface would be enough. With digital the question is the 
sensor, which is untried, untested and under development. This is the 
big concern.


How I hope it works out (though I am not audience, just fan)!

Kostas



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas

Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:


Looking at the back-side image:
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg

1.  Note the side tripod mount for vertical shooting.  A very 
practical feature.  Just add your favorite quick-release plate.



Yep



2.  The large media door could indicate either (a) CF or (b) multiple 
media (use CF or SD)
(c) put in more than one and when #1 is filled, start on #2.  (I would 
hope for (c) but it's probably (a) )


CF at a minimum, possibly a return of PC Card (Hmm, 60GB cards...)



3.  Regarding the two taped-over covers at the bottom .. USB, 
Firewire, and perhaps ethernet?

How about a wired remote control connection?



USB, firewire, AC



4.  The separation of metering  af point selection (to the left and 
right of the eyepiece)
seems very practical.  Far better than going through the menu.  This 
would be nice to

have on the 135-format DSLRs.


D already has that feature

5.  The exposure mode knob looks like they took one off another body 
and taped over the things

which weren't needed.  Sloppy tape job for a press release.


Probably



6.  Did you catch the LCD backlight button to the right of the 
display?  Nice  practical.



Agreed.



I hope it lives up to the prototype in this press release.  Many pros 
will be very pleased.



CRB


-Adam



Re: Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/24 Fri PM 01:29:37 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: looking at the 645D
 
 on 2/24/06 13:57, Collin R Brendemuehl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Looking at the back-side image:
  http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg
 Looking at the LCD - 1/4000 s is shown - that would mean new shutter unit,
 perhaps with faster 1/125 s flash sync and maybe with support for P-TTL and
 HSS flash - that would be the first in MF ;-)
 
 -- 
Smaller sensor allows different shutter than the 645.  Maybe some leftover Z1-p 
stuff...  But won't the mirror need to be the same size as the 645 or you will 
get blank parts of the view in the finder?

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Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

Looking at the LCD - 1/4000 s is shown - that would mean new  
shutter unit,
perhaps with faster 1/125 s flash sync and maybe with support for P- 
TTL and

HSS flash - that would be the first in MF ;-)


Not necessarily a totally new shutter.  The shutter might be limited  
to 1/60 or so for top speed.  Faster speeds would be attained by  
switching the sensor chip on and off, as is already done in most DSLR  
cameras.


Bob



Re: Most compact DSLR

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell
I tried Babelfish, but it doesn't work well on Japanese.  I would  
love to enter the contest, but it says only people living in Japan  
can enter.


Bob

On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:27 AM, K.Takeshita wrote:


No.  See below (and perhaps put it through babelfish etc).

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/

It is a miniature model of EF 600mm F4 IS USM  EOS-1Ds Mark II,  
offered as

a prize for some sort of questionnaire (or contest).  These are made
commemorating the 30 millionth EF lens.  Body  lens are attached  
by magnet.


Hilarious thing about this is the asterisked note in red.

 This is not a working model.  Lens cannot be used as a  
telescope.  No

spark or flash effect from the tip of the lens.




Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Jostein

I appreciated most of the button layout too, but I'm a bit concerned about the
AE-L button. It looks too exposed for my liking, sitting on the grip between
the thumb and the rest of the hand.

Jostein

Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Looking at the back-side image:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg
 
 1.  Note the side tripod mount for vertical shooting.  A very 
 practical feature.  Just add your favorite quick-release plate.
 
 2.  The large media door could indicate either (a) CF or (b) multiple 
 media (use CF or SD)
 (c) put in more than one and when #1 is filled, start on #2.  (I 
 would hope for (c) but it's probably (a) )
 
 3.  Regarding the two taped-over covers at the bottom .. USB, 
 Firewire, and perhaps ethernet?
 How about a wired remote control connection?
 
 4.  The separation of metering  af point selection (to the left and 
 right of the eyepiece)
 seems very practical.  Far better than going through the menu.  This 
 would be nice to
 have on the 135-format DSLRs.
 
 5.  The exposure mode knob looks like they took one off another body 
 and taped over the things
 which weren't needed.  Sloppy tape job for a press release.
 
 6.  Did you catch the LCD backlight button to the right of the 
 display?  Nice  practical.
 
 I hope it lives up to the prototype in this press release.  Many pros 
 will be very pleased.
 
 
 CRB
 
 
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  -- Jim Elliott
 
 





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Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 2/24/06 14:44, Bob Shell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not necessarily a totally new shutter.  The shutter might be limited
 to 1/60 or so for top speed.  Faster speeds would be attained by
 switching the sensor chip on and off, as is already done in most DSLR
 cameras.
Not all, just some - like Nikon D70 or Canon 1D.

-- 
Best regards
Sylwek



Re: Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Jostein
Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Smaller sensor allows different shutter than the 645.  Maybe some leftover
 Z1-p stuff...  But won't the mirror need to be the same size as the 645 or
 you will get blank parts of the view in the finder?

Unless the CCD is exchangeable, they can scale the whole lightpath to match it.
The viewfinder would be masked to match the size of the mirror, I suppose.

Jostein


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Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 2/24/06 14:38, mike wilson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Smaller sensor allows different shutter than the 645.  Maybe some leftover
 Z1-p stuff...  But won't the mirror need to be the same size as the 645 or you
 will get blank parts of the view in the finder?
Mirror should reflect size of sensor if you don't want to have tunnel
effect. I doubt if shutter from Z1P could be taken, as Kodak's sensor to be
used in 645 is larger than 35 mm film frame.

-- 
Best regards
Sylwek



Looking for D Glenn Arthur Jr

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

If any of you has valid e-mail or even postal address of the guy, please 
contact me off-list.


Thanks.

Boris



Re: [Bulk] Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]


That make sense. It will be the new standard lens. The D FA label 
probably
(almost certainly) indicate that it will be full frame and that it will 
fit
film 645 as well. That strongly  indicate that it have aperture ring 
(thank

God).



That's a bit of a stretch.  I think the D prefix pretty much says
that it is intended for the digital bodies.


But D FA designates full frame for K-mount lenses. It would be confusing if 
they use different nomeclature for 645 lenses. If the 55/2.8 is not full 
frame I would presume they would have labeled it DA, not D FA.


Pål 





Re: Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/24 Fri PM 01:53:22 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Re: looking at the 645D
 
 Quoting mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Smaller sensor allows different shutter than the 645.  Maybe some leftover
  Z1-p stuff...  But won't the mirror need to be the same size as the 645 or
  you will get blank parts of the view in the finder?
 
 Unless the CCD is exchangeable, they can scale the whole lightpath to match 
 it.
 The viewfinder would be masked to match the size of the mirror, I suppose.
 

My bad wording.  I've just ripped a lump out of my thumb and I'm having 
difficulty concentrating, never mind typing. 8-)

I see what you mean but there would still be black areas around the image, 
unless the optics were arranged to enlarge the viewfinder image to the same 
size as the 645.  You would get the equivalent of tunnel vision.

m


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Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]





And what about the 1/4000 shutter speed?



That indicate a new shutter...



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Dario Bonazza
Achieving higher synch speeds can be useful, and a nice feature to boast. 
And what's a good reason for not doing so?


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: looking at the 645D



on 2/24/06 14:44, Bob Shell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not necessarily a totally new shutter.  The shutter might be limited
to 1/60 or so for top speed.  Faster speeds would be attained by
switching the sensor chip on and off, as is already done in most DSLR
cameras.

Not all, just some - like Nikon D70 or Canon 1D.

--
Best regards
Sylwek





FS lots

2006-02-24 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZdpconsult.comQQhtZ-1

Still stuff to get rid of soon.
More to come next week.
(Any hardware geeks interested in an Intel SBC-85?)

Collin


He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Re: Pentax announcement (rumors fulfilled)

2006-02-24 Thread Jack Davis
Humm.. Just to add to the record, I've ALWAYS felt the split image
focusing feature to be extremely precise and a distinct advantage.
When I do a MF shot with my AF, I tend feel somewhat insecure.

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
 
  A manual focus camera would include some focusing aid that is not
  common in an AF one, like a split image prism of something like
 that.
 
 Funny, but I've always replaced the standard focusing screens in all 
 
 my manual focus SLRs with a plain matte fresnel focusing screen (with
  
 scribed H and V reference grid). Those darn focusing aids get in the 
 
 way for me.
 
 AF SLR screens are cleaner, in general, and less annoying. ;-)
 
 Godfrey
 
 


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PESO - Sea, Bottle, No Message

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12120

Went today to the seashore for the first time in 2006... The day is 
really hot. It is +27 degrees Celsius...


Boris



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


Not necessarily a totally new shutter.  The shutter might be limited
to 1/60 or so for top speed.  Faster speeds would be attained by
switching the sensor chip on and off, as is already done in most DSLR
cameras.

Not all, just some - like Nikon D70 or Canon 1D.



I did not say all, I said most.  I don't know about Pentax, but in  
Nikon the D100 and D200 do this, and in Canon the 10D, 20D, 5D, and  
presumably the new 30D.  This feature is not always documented in  
the tech specs, but I have been told by tech experts at Nikon and  
Canon that this is the case in these cameras.  It is the most  
practical way to achieve high shutter speeds in DSLR cameras.  I'd  
bet that Pentax is getting 1/4000 this way, since the existing 645  
shutter is not capable of that and the camera doesn't look large  
enough to house a metal blade shutter as used by Mamiya and Contax.


Bob



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 2/24/06 15:30, Bob Shell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did not say all, I said most.  I don't know about Pentax, but in
 Nikon the D100 and D200 do this, and in Canon the 10D, 20D, 5D, and
 presumably the new 30D.  This feature is not always documented in
 the tech specs, but I have been told by tech experts at Nikon and
 Canon that this is the case in these cameras.  It is the most
 practical way to achieve high shutter speeds in DSLR cameras.  I'd
 bet that Pentax is getting 1/4000 this way, since the existing 645
 shutter is not capable of that and the camera doesn't look large
 enough to house a metal blade shutter as used by Mamiya and Contax.
None of mentioned by you DSLRs has electronic shutter. In case of D200 it is
even clearly stated in this review:
http://nikonimaging.com/global/technology/scene/12/index.htm

-- 
Best regards
Sylwek



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 2/24/06 15:20, Dario Bonazza at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Achieving higher synch speeds can be useful, and a nice feature to boast.
 And what's a good reason for not doing so?
There were some issues with image quality at electronic shutter speeds.
That's why Nikon has dropped this solution in hi-end cameras (they used it
in D1 series where top shutter speed was 1/16000 s) leaving it only for
amateur class (D50, D70). Some explanation is in article about D200
development on Nikon home page:
http://nikonimaging.com/global/technology/scene/12/index.htm

-- 
Best regards
Sylwek



Re: PESO - Sea, Bottle, No Message

2006-02-24 Thread David Savage
Nice one Boris. I like the colour  textures.

I hope you picked it up and put it in the bin :-)

27 isn't hot...oh...err...um...it's supposed to be winter in your neck
of the woods, isn't it?. Then that is hot :-(

Dave

On 2/24/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12120

 Went today to the seashore for the first time in 2006... The day is
 really hot. It is +27 degrees Celsius...

 Boris





Re: Most compact DSLR

2006-02-24 Thread Gonz



Bob Shell wrote:





On 2/24/06, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Looks like Canon's got us beat again:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/static/present/eos1_14l.jpg




Anybody here read Japanese?  Is that actually a working camera?



Surely you jest.  LOL.


Bob





Re: PAW - Shy

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Yet another to add to my public payphone collection.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4112142size=lg

Comments are always appreciated.


Frank, I am looking at this photo like this:
1. I see a man, shielding his eyes from either or like it's been said 
here - the sun. Say, he just hides his eyes from me, the viewer.
I also see a woman face left to him, that is hidden from me by the wall 
in such a way that it very much corresponds to the expression of the 
walking guy.


2. Then I see the pay phone, the big shade, and the LHS of the picture 
that I cannot relate to what I said in p. 1 above in any way. This whole 
story just happens to take place near the pay phone which is shaded very 
unpleasantly by whatever object produces that shade. And then of course, 
some graffiti on the way to which the pay phone is attached.


What I am trying to say is that this time your composition seems to 
break down in two rather weakly connected parts. Since I find the RHS 
much more interesting than LHS, I suggest getting rid of LHS.


Just my cents worth...

Boris



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-24 Thread Gonz



Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi,

I guess I should have mentioned that I've seen the exhibit several times,
so I know about the light.  A tripod isn't mandatory, although, for some
shots, it could be useful.  Blur might be nice, BTW ...



Ok, I'll change that to would make a big difference from mandatory. 
Some displays are brighter than others, still, take a fast lens. 
Handheld @ f4 might be really pushing it.



On a separate note, your Mitch Hedberg sig got me to rent one of his DVD's.
Thanks!


Really?  Whats the name of the DVD?


Shel





[Original Message]
From: Gonz 



I have, the light is very low, so you have to use high iso or the 
movement will show up as blur. Of course it goes without 
saying that a tripod is mandatory.


Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I'm going to try to take some time off and head down to the Monterey Bay
Aquarium for some R n R.  Photographing the jellyfish exhibit has been on
my to do list for a while.  Has anyone photographed the exhibit - any
suggestions?


 


I found these pics, but boy, are they poor quality 


 


http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/monterey-aquarium-jellyfish.html








Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Jostein
Some further comments, interspersed, and some extra points at the end...

Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Looking at the back-side image:
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg
 
 1.  Note the side tripod mount for vertical shooting.  A very 
 practical feature.  Just add your favorite quick-release plate.

Indeed. Also a traditional feature on all the 645 cameras.

 2.  The large media door could indicate either (a) CF or (b) multiple 
 media (use CF or SD)
 (c) put in more than one and when #1 is filled, start on #2.  (I 
 would hope for (c) but it's probably (a) )

I vote for (b), with the option of saving in different formats simultaneously.

 3.  Regarding the two taped-over covers at the bottom .. USB, 
 Firewire, and perhaps ethernet?
 How about a wired remote control connection?

They look more plugged up than taped over, imo. A Firewire and/or USB is
likely. As is a remote control connection and external powersupply.

 4.  The separation of metering  af point selection (to the left and 
 right of the eyepiece)
 seems very practical.  Far better than going through the menu.  This 
 would be nice to
 have on the 135-format DSLRs.

This is also a continuation of the 645 interface. However, I don't think the
button on the right side is actually a point selection. I think it's a choice
between large and small metering area for the matrix pattern. Also, I think the
metering mode selection ring should have had a small handle to make it more
accessible. The way it is now is just like on the *istD, which is very fiddly.

 5.  The exposure mode knob looks like they took one off another body 
 and taped over the things
 which weren't needed.  Sloppy tape job for a press release.

It looks sloppy, I agree. However, there's going to be something there. There is
currently no apparent way of setting the ISO. Notice also that there's no number
before the word ISO in the LCD display. Looks like the implementation is not
decided yet.

 6.  Did you catch the LCD backlight button to the right of the 
 display?  Nice  practical.

Agreed. An improvement over having it on the DOF preview.

7. Notice the separate button on the left side of the camera for flash
compensation. Maybe Pentax has finally implemented some good fill-flash
automatics.

8. The white balance selector has also been moved off the exposure mode switch,
and now allows fast switching between different balances.

9. I think the scroll wheels are too tiny.

Jostein



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Re: PESO - Sea, Bottle, No Message

2006-02-24 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


Nice one Boris. I like the colour  textures.

I hope you picked it up and put it in the bin :-)

27 isn't hot...oh...err...um...it's supposed to be winter in your neck
of the woods, isn't it?. Then that is hot :-(


Indeed, Dave, it is hot relative the time of year. Usually it is around 
+20... It just feels hot.


Actually I did not put it in the bin for two reasons:
1. It was really not only just one piece of such litter on the beach.
2. I would have to look really hard for litter bin...

Julia chuckles...

Boris



Re: PESO - Sea, Bottle, No Message

2006-02-24 Thread Mat Maessen
Very nice, Boris. I think it's the orange of the bottle cap against
the sand and the blue sea behind that make the shot so good. Good
find.

-Mat

On 2/24/06, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=12120



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Jostein wrote:


Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Looking at the back-side image:
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg

4.  The separation of metering  af point selection (to the left and
right of the eyepiece)
seems very practical.  Far better than going through the menu.  This
would be nice to
have on the 135-format DSLRs.


This is also a continuation of the 645 interface. However, I don't think the
button on the right side is actually a point selection. I think it's a choice
between large and small metering area for the matrix pattern. Also, I think the
metering mode selection ring should have had a small handle to make it more
accessible. The way it is now is just like on the *istD, which is very fiddly.


I think it is the same as the MZ-5n interface: spot; CW; matrix.

Kostas



Re: Photographing the Jellies

2006-02-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

I don't have any F4.0 lenses  ;-((  

What I meant about the t'pod is that, in a lot of cases, the camera can be
put directly against the glass, obviating the need for additional support
yet allowing for stability and longer shutter speeds/greater DOF.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Gonz 

  I guess I should have mentioned that I've seen the exhibit 
  several times, so I know about the light.  A tripod isn't 
  mandatory, although, for some shots, it could be useful.  
  Blur might be nice, BTW ...
 

 Ok, I'll change that to would make a big difference from 
 mandatory.  Some displays are brighter than others, still, 
 take a fast lens. Handheld @ f4 might be really pushing it.




what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
Hi all,

what's your guess about the name of the next *istD?

The 10 MP camera does not show a name yet.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-04.jpg
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html


Will it be a *ist D2?

Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would have
to name this as GX-1?

How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better *ist D*...


- Martin



Re: Freiburg Market

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
 Last June my wife and I spent a couple of days in
 Freiburg, Germany.  What a lovely town!  My favorite
 place is the market square surrounding the cathedral,
 where there is a very lively market 6 mornings a week.

Glad to here that you liked it ;-)

 Two other enticing features are interesting geometric
 designs inlaid on the sidewalks, and an incredible
 number of bicycles.  

Not to mention the small streams (Bächle) all over the city center - if
you were here in winter, you'll have to come back between spring and
autumn ;-)

And yet another side note: it's one of the warmest cities in Germany.

Greetings from Freiburg,
Martin



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Cory Papenfuss

Just a WAG on my part (nor do I give a sh*t), but:


Will it be a *ist D2?

	Doubt it... too easily confused with D[LS]2 of the 6MP 
generations.



Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would have
to name this as GX-1?


Again, generational confusion.


How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better *ist D*...

	How about just '*'?  Seems pretty likely given the names of 
before.


Stupid Pentax.

-Cory

--

*
* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
*



Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't see a definition for a kind of photography in that quote,  
Kostas. I see a statement relating to a kind of equipment. What kind  
of PHOTOGRAPHS is the equipment intended to make? That's photography.


Godfrey


On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:09 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


And what kind of photography is that, really? Have you defined it?


Yes, but you deleted it:

The LX with its superb finders and the old array of high  
performance fast lenses made a pretty smick kit for low light work.


If the new DLSR behaves similarly to the D200 at high ISO I doubt  
that I'm going to be overly excited, proof is in the pudding of  
course be it a year ore more away. It's apparent that Pentax are  
heading in a totally different direction now, they are carving a  
niche of kit biased towards small rather than fast.






Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée

A new name ?
No more *ist ?
newname D  ?

??

Michel



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread DagT

My guess is: *istDx

DagT

Den 24. feb. 2006 kl. 16.45 skrev Martin Trautmann:


Hi all,

what's your guess about the name of the next *istD?

The 10 MP camera does not show a name yet.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-04.jpg
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200609.html


Will it be a *ist D2?

Since Samsung did GX-1S = *ist DS2 and GX-1L = *ist DL2, they would  
have

to name this as GX-1?

How about *ist DA (advanced) or *ist DP (professional)?
Or even better *ist D*...


- Martin





Re: Camera bag

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Looks good, I'm sure you'll like it.

Godfrey

On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:25 AM, Don Williams wrote:

I bought this one 7553927412 -- a Tamrac 5682. I think it will do  
for me. There are bigger, better and more expensive models but I  
have a larger bag as well.




Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/24/06 10:55 AM, Cory Papenfuss, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about just '*'?  Seems pretty likely given the names of
 before.

I thought I saw somewhere that Pentax no longer use *ist designation for
next generations of DSLRs.   Crossing fingers ;-).

Ken



WTB - Ever Ready Case

2006-02-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Looking for original case for K-body cameras and MX.  Cases must be in good
condition.  Thanks!
Please reply off list.


Shel





Re: More new lenes comin this year

2006-02-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:06 AM, Margus Männik wrote:


http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/roadmap.pdf
Besides DA21/3.2 Limited, there should also appear D FA 55/2.8,  
DA70/2.4 Limited, DA 16-50/2.8 and DA 50-135/2.8 this year.


The DA50-135/2.8 is what's gotten my interest. That could be very  
useful. Looks like Photokina time frame on the chart.


Godfrey



Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:09 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:


And what kind of photography is that, really? Have you defined it?


Yes, but you deleted it:

The LX with its superb finders and the old array of high performance fast 
lenses made a pretty smick kit for low light work.


If the new DLSR behaves similarly to the D200 at high ISO I doubt that 
I'm going to be overly excited, proof is in the pudding of course be it a 
year ore more away. It's apparent that Pentax are heading in a totally 
different direction now, they are carving a niche of kit biased towards 
small rather than fast.


I don't see a definition for a kind of photography in that quote, Kostas. I 
see a statement relating to a kind of equipment. What kind of PHOTOGRAPHS is 
the equipment intended to make? That's photography.


It says low light work; that's photography. In it Rob expands that 
for that type of photographs he needs a combination of low noise in 
high ISO and bright lenses. He concludes that Pentax is not moving 
towards this direction. The subject of the thread is Lens Road Map 
revised.


And don't shout, I read even without it.

Kostas



Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-02-24 06:08, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 You can get two of the new Pentax for the price of one 5D. Or you could 
 make a sizable down payment on the 645D, which apparently will be much 
 higher spec than the 5D.

So the new roadmap indicates:

- 'consumer cameras' use APS sized sensors and DA-lenses with PK mount

- 'pro cameras' use a full frame sensor and DFA-lenses with PK mount

The professional roadmap is 6x7 cm - 6x4.5 cm - 3.6x2.4?
Now the body form factor still looks big, while the lens mount is PK,
mixing medium format and 35 mm?

ok, I'll take that - at least this will promise some new DFA lenses for my
analog bodies ;-) 

- Martin



Re: Samsung announces GX-L1

2006-02-24 Thread dick graham
So what's with Samsung using Schneider lenses on this Pentax/Samsung 
combined effort?


DG



At 06:10 PM 2/23/2006 -0800, you wrote:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022403samsunggx1l.asp

Loos like another rebadged DS2 or DL2. It does say pentaprism, so that
would make it a DS2. Although the L in the name is suspicious, and
probably the report is mistaken.

j

--
Juan Buhler
Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com





Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Ryan K. Brooks

Pål Jensen wrote:


- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]




And what about the 1/4000 shutter speed?



That indicate a new shutter...


More likely that it's a mock-up as previously suggested by Rob and just 
has a bunch of things turned on in the display.




Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread pnstenquist
The lens mount for the new pro camera is not PK, it's the 645 mount. And the 
sensor isn't 35mm full frame. It's somewhere in between that and 645. The DFA 
lens on the chart is apparently a 645 mount lens.

 -- Original message --
From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 2006-02-24 06:08, Paul Stenquist wrote:
  You can get two of the new Pentax for the price of one 5D. Or you could 
  make a sizable down payment on the 645D, which apparently will be much 
  higher spec than the 5D.
 
 So the new roadmap indicates:
 
 - 'consumer cameras' use APS sized sensors and DA-lenses with PK mount
 
 - 'pro cameras' use a full frame sensor and DFA-lenses with PK mount
 
 The professional roadmap is 6x7 cm - 6x4.5 cm - 3.6x2.4?
 Now the body form factor still looks big, while the lens mount is PK,
 mixing medium format and 35 mm?
 
 ok, I'll take that - at least this will promise some new DFA lenses for my
 analog bodies ;-) 
 
 - Martin
 



Re: what's the name of the new Pentax 10MP camera?

2006-02-24 Thread Pål Jensen


- Original Message - 
From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I thought I saw somewhere that Pentax no longer use *ist designation for
next generations of DSLRs.   Crossing fingers ;-).



It was said that the *ist name was reserved for entry level cameras. So it 
depends wether this ine is entry level or not...



Pål 





Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-02-24 16:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The lens mount for the new pro camera is not PK, it's the 645 mount. 

How do you know?

 And the sensor isn't 35mm full frame.

I suppose that it's not really 35 mm. 36x24 mm - ø 43 mm, 
60:45 @ 43 mm - 34.6 x 26.0 mm  

That's 4 % more area ;-)


I missed the smc PENTAX-FA *645* on

http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-06.jpg

So you're probably right that they'll keep the bigger format.

- Martin



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas

Bob Shell wrote:


On Feb 24, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


Not necessarily a totally new shutter.  The shutter might be limited
to 1/60 or so for top speed.  Faster speeds would be attained by
switching the sensor chip on and off, as is already done in most DSLR
cameras.


Not all, just some - like Nikon D70 or Canon 1D.




I did not say all, I said most.  I don't know about Pentax, but in  
Nikon the D100 and D200 do this, and in Canon the 10D, 20D, 5D, and  
presumably the new 30D.  This feature is not always documented in  the 
tech specs, but I have been told by tech experts at Nikon and  Canon 
that this is the case in these cameras.  It is the most  practical way 
to achieve high shutter speeds in DSLR cameras.  I'd  bet that Pentax 
is getting 1/4000 this way, since the existing 645  shutter is not 
capable of that and the camera doesn't look large  enough to house a 
metal blade shutter as used by Mamiya and Contax.


Bob


Bob, are you sure about that? I know the Nikon D1's do this, as does the 
D50 and D70(s). As far as I'm aware the D100, D200 and all the D2's do 
not. The way to tell is the flash sync (The 1/500 sync cameras use 
hybrid shutters, 1/250 and below do not, relying on mechanical sync).


The current Canon's don't do this, which can be confirmed by simply 
listening to the shutter. Pentax and KM also do not (The sensor in the 
Pentax, KM and D100 do not support this, the modified version of this 
sensor in the D70 and D50 does).


But I do agree that the 645D is quite probably using a hybrid shutter.

-Adam



Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas
Should be a big improvement over the D, where you couldn't find the 
AE-Lock without looking because it was so recessed and awkwardly placed.


-Adam


Jostein wrote:

I appreciated most of the button layout too, but I'm a bit concerned about the
AE-L button. It looks too exposed for my liking, sitting on the grip between
the thumb and the rest of the hand.

Jostein

Quoting Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Looking at the back-side image:
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2006/press-image/200609-08.jpg

1.  Note the side tripod mount for vertical shooting.  A very 
practical feature.  Just add your favorite quick-release plate.


2.  The large media door could indicate either (a) CF or (b) multiple 
media (use CF or SD)
(c) put in more than one and when #1 is filled, start on #2.  (I 
would hope for (c) but it's probably (a) )


3.  Regarding the two taped-over covers at the bottom .. USB, 
Firewire, and perhaps ethernet?

How about a wired remote control connection?

4.  The separation of metering  af point selection (to the left and 
right of the eyepiece)
seems very practical.  Far better than going through the menu.  This 
would be nice to

have on the 135-format DSLRs.

5.  The exposure mode knob looks like they took one off another body 
and taped over the things

which weren't needed.  Sloppy tape job for a press release.

6.  Did you catch the LCD backlight button to the right of the 
display?  Nice  practical.


I hope it lives up to the prototype in this press release.  Many pros 
will be very pleased.



CRB


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-- Jim Elliott









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Re: Lens Road Map revised

2006-02-24 Thread pnstenquist

 -- Original message --
From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On 2006-02-24 16:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The lens mount for the new pro camera is not PK, it's the 645 mount. 
 
 How do you know?

Pentax made that clear when they announced this camera some time ago. 



Re: Pentax announcement (rumors fulfilled)

2006-02-24 Thread Tom C
I'm with Jack on this one.  I always have liked split image screens and miss 
them as most cameras come without them now.  There was times I would go get 
a steak knife and place it in the same plane as my subject, turn it on edge, 
walk back and focus on it, then remove it from the scene.


Seems a little silly now, but focus was pretty accurate.

Tom C.





From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Pentax announcement (rumors fulfilled)
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:26:00 -0800 (PST)

Humm.. Just to add to the record, I've ALWAYS felt the split image
focusing feature to be extremely precise and a distinct advantage.
When I do a MF shot with my AF, I tend feel somewhat insecure.

Jack

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

  A manual focus camera would include some focusing aid that is not
  common in an AF one, like a split image prism of something like
 that.

 Funny, but I've always replaced the standard focusing screens in all

 my manual focus SLRs with a plain matte fresnel focusing screen (with

 scribed H and V reference grid). Those darn focusing aids get in the

 way for me.

 AF SLR screens are cleaner, in general, and less annoying. ;-)

 Godfrey




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Re: Samsung announces GX-L1

2006-02-24 Thread Adam Maas

So far, all the 'Schneider' lenses are actually rebranded SMC-DA 18-55's.

-Adam


dick graham wrote:
So what's with Samsung using Schneider lenses on this Pentax/Samsung 
combined effort?


DG



At 06:10 PM 2/23/2006 -0800, you wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0602/06022403samsunggx1l.asp

Loos like another rebadged DS2 or DL2. It does say pentaprism, so that
would make it a DS2. Although the L in the name is suspicious, and
probably the report is mistaken.

j

--
Juan Buhler
Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com







Re: looking at the 645D

2006-02-24 Thread Jostein


- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I think it is the same as the MZ-5n interface: spot; CW; matrix.


The left side button, yes. The MZ-5 is where it came from in the first 
place. The whole button layout is a cross-breed of almost every 
previous Pentax AF camera.


Jostein



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