Re: Paw Digital IR with Sepia

2006-04-10 Thread David Mann

On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/? 
action=viewcurrent=sepiaIR.jpg


I like the effect... it looks like a weird dream.

- Dave




Re: OT: Seeking Book Recommendations

2006-04-10 Thread David Mann

On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:14 AM, David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

OK, if you were to recommend just 2 books on or about photography,
preferably not technical  I have enough of those, which would they be.
Street, landscape, whatever, it doesn't matter, I like them all.


1. On Being a Photographer, as suggested by several others
2. Mountain Light by Galen Rowell

- Dave



Re: PAW - Incoming Storm

2006-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

This was taken on the same day as my previous PAW, as we were heading at 
breakneck speed towards Picton before the rain hit us.  This was the 
last photo on the roll.


It was quite an experience, trying to take photos one-handed while 
holding on for dear life as the water was getting choppy and the boat 
was going pretty fast.  Trying to time the shots between the showers of 
spray.  Using a K2 which has no power-winder.  I'm amazed that I 
actually got the horizon straight...


http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=352t=1

As a side-note, I have just finished scanning/processing/uploading the 
first slide books of both 35mm and 6x7 (200 and 40 slides 
respectively).  I don't want to know how long this has taken me so far, 
but there's only another three books of each to go :)


Dave, I remember my first impression when I was faced with Norwegian 
Landscapes. No matter how wide a lens I took, the view in the viewfinder 
looked not-damn-wide-enough.


I think this is the case here. It is extremely wide, I reckon, yet it 
looks very tranquil and hence the dramatic width is rather lost.


As a side note, I would have probably taken few more images with 
slightly different positions of the horizon.


Boris



Re: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes

2006-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/06, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:

Here's the last PESOs from Newcastle for the time being:

http://www.oksne.net/paw/kittiwakes.html

http://www.oksne.net/paw/BridgeMosaic.html

Thanks for looking.

Both excellent. Particularly like the kittiwakes - well done!




Cheers,
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Re: PAW - Incoming Storm

2006-04-10 Thread David Mann

On Apr 10, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Dave, I remember my first impression when I was faced with  
Norwegian Landscapes. No matter how wide a lens I took, the view in  
the viewfinder looked not-damn-wide-enough.


I think this is the case here. It is extremely wide, I reckon, yet  
it looks very tranquil and hence the dramatic width is rather lost.


The situation was against me: if I'd attempted to change lenses I'd  
have ended up either injured or drowned, as I'd have had to let go of  
the handrail and attempt to venture into the front of the boat where  
my camera bag was stored.  We're talking maybe a 15ft boat going at  
least 30mph on choppy water.  No time to feel seasick as you're  
having too much fun trying to stay upright.  That ride really was a  
blast.


I know what you mean about those big landscapes.  It is very very  
difficult to capture the sheer enormity of some places...

http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?t=1p=63

As a side note, I would have probably taken few more images with  
slightly different positions of the horizon.


Unfortunately the situation was against me once again.  That was the  
last shot on the roll, and changing film was not going to happen.  If  
I'd included more foreground it would have been at the expense of the  
sky, and it probably would have been motion-blurred and full of spray.


- Dave



Re: *istD sensor alignment?

2006-04-10 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I never received the messages too.

Since my camera is still under warranty, I may try to
get the focus screen removed and repositioned.

Thanks.
Jaume

 --- Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 I was checking the list archives and found replies
 to my original post
 from Rob Studdert and Godfrey DiGiorgi that I never
 received (I
 actually never got my own post either). I did the
 additional
 experiment that Rob suggested, and I'm fairly
 certain that the finder
 is the problem. As soon as I find the courage, I'm
 going to remove the
 focusing screen and put it back to see if that helps
 like it did for
 Godfrey. The last time I messed with a focusing
 screen, a severe case
 of butterfingers resulted in my ZX-30 making a trip
 to KEH for
 repairs.
 
 I'd like to say thanks to Rob and Godfrey for their
 ideas.
 
 Glenn
 
 On 4/9/06, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Same here with a Ds...and I did the same
 experiment
  with the same results.
  My horizons fall from left to right, and I have
 the
  same feeling of being unable to hold a camera
  properly.
 
  I also discovered that my first instictive
 reaction to
  correct an horizon was to tilt the camera in the
 wrong
  direction.
  (if the sky falls from left to righ, you have to
 tilt
  the camera clockwise, I tended to do the other way
  until I noticed).
 
  I had a similar problem with my MZ-5n, and I am
 also
  thinking if the instant review contributes to this
  impression.
 
  It would be nice to hear form others experiences.
 
  (BTW, Picasa is great correcting horizons, rotates
 and
  crops at the same time).
 
   --- Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
   Hi all,
  
   For as long as I've owned my *istD, I've spent
 lots
   of time rotating
   and cropping pictures to correct the horizon. I
   always assumed that I
   was just sloppy when framing my shots. But I did
 a
   quick experiment
   recently where I carefully lined up the focus
 screen
   marks with
   straight horizontal lines and took some test
   pictures. The shots all
   came out about 1 1/2 degrees off from level. Is
 this
   a problem with
   the sensor alignment? Is the focusing screen or
   prism somehow out of
   position? Could any of these be fixed? Somehow
 all
   these possibilities
   bother me more than when I thought I just
 couldn't
   hold a camera
   level.
  
   Glenn
  
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RE: Pentax User Classifieds

2006-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks for the link, Rob 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Rob Studdert 

 I don't know if everyone here is aware of this site, it's worth a look
there is 
 some nice gear posted there:

 http://pentaxuser.org/classifieds/




Re: Re: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes

2006-04-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/04/10 Mon AM 03:09:34 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jostein 
 Subject: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes
 
 
  Here's the last PESOs from Newcastle for the time being:
  
  http://www.oksne.net/paw/kittiwakes.html
  
  http://www.oksne.net/paw/BridgeMosaic.html
  
  Thanks for looking.
 
 WOW x2.
 Nice work Jostein.
 You wanna have Bridge Mosaic printed as a 16x40, send me the file.
 I'll accept a print of it in trade.
 
 William Robb
 
 

You've got a sale here.


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Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-10 Thread Gabriel Cain

Cotty wrote:

Yo Gabriel.

Cotty in England. 


Leave that home page just like it is - minimalist works!


Thanks.  I decided on a minimalistic approach due to wanting it to be 
simple and straight-forward.  :-)  I'm glad it works.


mike wilson wrote:
 Indeed.  Best one I've seen for ages.  But surely, as a blacksmith,
 you should be using Canon?  8-)

 You've got the ideal accoutrement for Cotty when he's in Klingon mode.
 http://www.dreamingcrowforge.com/?page=galleryproduct=Experimental

 mike

Thanks Mike.  At this point, I'm feeling a good deal of uncertainty 
about which of the DSLRs I intend on getting.  now, I like Pentax, but I 
find that for my hands, the *ist series is too small.  It feels very 
tight, and I'm not really happy with that.  I've been driving a few of 
them at the various camera stores, but so far, I still have that feeling.


My wife (her pictures are at http://dreamingcrowstudios.com) has a Nikon 
D70, and a few lenses.  It's nice; it has good feel, but I don't know. 
The Canons certainly have a lot of models available, notably the 20D 
with a full 36mm x 24mm sensor, so the lens multiplier would go away. 
But I don't know yet. :)


What I'd really really like is a digital back on the K1000.  I really 
enjoy its form factor and feel.  Oh well. :)


BTW, http://gabrielcain.com/gallery2/v/wallace2006/.

Gabriel



Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/06, Gabriel Cain, discombobulated, unleashed:

notably the 20D 
with a full 36mm x 24mm sensor

That's the 5D or the 1Ds Gabe.




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RE: PESO: Waiting.

2006-04-10 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Bob
thanks for you imagination on my broken english ;-)
Care to proof your claim with the posting of a PESO? (vbg)
greetings
Markus

-Original Message-
From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:32 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO: Waiting.


 -Original Message-
 From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Tim
 I really like this portrait here but would wish it to be a
 bit softer around the sheep.

Yes, I agree. Whenever I photograph sheep I use a soft focus
filter. I make
sure they've had a good wash first, so they're nice and fluffy, and I
photograph them against a pretty pink backdrop. Usually they're also quite
happy to wear stockings  suspenders, with a gold-sequinned eyemask too.

Cheers,
Little Bob Peep






Re: Pentax User Classifieds

2006-04-10 Thread John Whittingham
 I don't know if everyone here is aware of this site, it's worth a 
 look there is some nice gear posted there:
 
 http://pentaxuser.org/classifieds/
 
 It is primarily used by the DPReview Pentax Forum posters.

There's also this one for anyone in the UK or willing to buy from the UK, has 
some very good stuff:

http://www.pentaxuser.co.uk/pages/classifieds.htm

John

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RE: Hall of fame (was) PESO: Waiting.

2006-04-10 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Tim
I'm with Paul here, congratulations!
Markus

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:46 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Hall of fame (was) PESO: Waiting.


Great! It is gratifying to have your work noticed, and this photo is
deserving. I took another look. Still enjoy it very much.
Paul
On Apr 9, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 First thanks to all who has looked and commented. But, I do believe I
 can
 take more.

 Posting this image has been supahcool. For some reason (modesty suits
 me,
 doesn't it ;-)) it has been voted by some visitors. So it has been on
 the
 first page of the gallery all day.
 http://foto.no/bildegalleri/
 The numbers of hits is 600, and it's only been 20 hours since I posted
 it.
 This sure is fun ;-)





Re: F 35-135 NOT good in the aquarium

2006-04-10 Thread Lucas Rijnders
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:47:50 +0200, Mark Stringer  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



FA 28-105 f4-5.6 pz model was a favorite of mine for a film camera.


Seconded.


I still have it.  Very good lense, not much heavier than the 35-135


But not exactly light either :o)

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Regards, Lucas



Re: OT: Seeking Book Recommendations

2006-04-10 Thread David Savage
Thanks for all your suggestions guys.

A quick search on the various books turns up some potentially very
inspiring reading/viewing.

Mark I have to say, An Anthropologist on Mars sounds really
interesting. I've already found a local source, so that will be the
first pick of the bunch.

Once again, Thanks to all.

Dave S


On 4/10/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good one, Mark.  Your suggestion reminds me of a couple of books:

 Tao of Photography: Unlock Your Creativity Using the Wisdom of the East
 The Tao of Photography: Seeing Beyond Seeing

 Shel



  [Original Message]
  Wrom: BOHMKHJYFMYX

  Several people have already suggest traditional photography books that
  I would have recommended so I'll offer something out of left field:
  An Anthropologist on Mars by Oliver Sacks





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RE: PESO: Waiting.

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Over sharpened? Maybe. I think it's a matter of preferences. I wanted it to
stand out, against the soft background. With less sharpening, the whites
behind the head of the sheep became a distraction.

Markus. It is not among my first shots. So I do believe I'm close to taming
it ;-) It is heavy, 2,3 kg. So I wouldn't dream about shooting without
tripod. 

I'm about to post something crappy, stay tuned ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 9. april 2006 11:14
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO: Waiting.
 
 Hi Tim
 I really like this portrait here but would wish it to be a bit softer
 around
 the sheep. For my taste it is over sharpened in post processing, could
 that
 be or maybe I'm just awaiting crappy results ;-)
 Is this one of your first shots with the Tokina and what are your
 impressions so far. How heavy is that beast?
 
 greetings
 Markus
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Perry Pellechia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:35 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Waiting.
 
 
 That's not bd at all.  If fact it is a very good portrait.  I like
 it with the background highlights, but its hard to say if it would be
 better with them toned down.
 
 On 4/8/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Going back and forth to my bird spot, I pass some sheeps. This
 one caught my
  eye today. Big as an elephant, she was waiting for the event,
 patiently. The
  scene set me in a near religious mood. There was something very
 touching
  with her.
 
  http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229676
  *istDS, 800 ISO raw, -0,7EV, Tokina AT-X 150-500/5,6, f:8, 1/250s.
  Converted in RSP. Some Healing brush to get dampen some fuzz in
 






PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards. 

Here is one of the things I experienced
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864

This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the details
out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot to
learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign ;-)

What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers, and
off course, the action.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)




Re: OT: War Photographer Documentary

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/10/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I recall reading that Capa felt much the same way.

Maybe Capa was restless to get back to the action, but between
assignments he was fairly gregarious, enjoyed several close
friendships, enjoyed the nightlife, the horsetrack, had a few affairs
(including one with Ingrid Bergman).

The Nachtwey that's portrayed in the documentary that we're talking
about seems nothing like that.  When on leave he seems to be a
near-recluse.

Of course, maybe it's all bull-***t, but that's the way they paint him.

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/04/10 Mon PM 02:05:00 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
 yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards. 
 
 Here is one of the things I experienced
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
 
 This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
 keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the details
 out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot to
 learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign ;-)
 
 What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers, and
 off course, the action.
 

Doesn't look too sharp [-ened 8-)] to me.  The bird is called Curlew in English.

m


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Re: OT: War Photographer Documentary

2006-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Frank,

Is bull-***t a C*n*n accessory?  Nachtwey was shown using a C*n*n in the
documentary.

Do you think they painted a picture of Nachtwey, or that maybe Nachtwey
had a lot to say about what was shown and how he was portrayed?  I'm not
suggesting one or the other, just wondering aloud as I always felt that
Nachtwey had a lot of control over the film.  Of course, that could be
totally wrong ... just a feeling.

On a different matter.  In the documentary Nachtwey is show using a film
holder that held five rolls of film in their canisters.  I've never seen
them anywhere, and even searched the web looking for them.  Does anyone
know where these can be found?

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: frank theriault 

 The Nachtwey that's portrayed in the documentary that we're talking
 about seems nothing like that.  When on leave he seems to be a
 near-recluse.

 Of course, maybe it's all bull-***t, but that's the way they paint him.




RE: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
For got to say: It is about 50% of the frame. Shot horizontally.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10. april 2006 16:05
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
 yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.
 
 Here is one of the things I experienced
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
 
 This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
 keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the
 details
 out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot
 to
 learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign ;-)
 
 What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers,
 and
 off course, the action.
 
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
 






Re: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Kenneth Waller

Tim, it doesn't look over sharpened to me.

Compositionally, the location of the lower bird causes the bird to get lost 
in the ground clutter.
The upper bird is a good capture especially back lit as it is. But I'd loose 
some of the background water above the bird.

The cocked shore line is a minor distraction to me.

2GB huh, you must have a tired finger!

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us



Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.

Here is one of the things I experienced
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864

This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the 
details
out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot 
to

learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign ;-)

What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers, 
and

off course, the action.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)






Re: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Don Williams

I copied your curlews, rotated the canvas 3 degrees clockwise and cropped
as close as I could. To me they look a lot better.

Don

mike wilson wrote:

From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/10 Mon PM 02:05:00 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards. 


Here is one of the things I experienced
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864

This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the details
out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot to
learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign ;-)

What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers, and
off course, the action.




Doesn't look too sharp [-ened 8-)] to me.  The bird is called Curlew in English.

m


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RE: If we ask Jostein really nicely......

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Tools ain't art. Tools are, ... tools.

But I've never used an LX, so I could be wrong ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10. april 2006 07:26
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: If we ask Jostein really nicely..
 
 On Apr 9, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
 
  Cotty's ascii thing, that's not art ;-)
 
 To me it looks like an LX with winder  grip that is most
 certainly art of the second highest order.
 
 (the highest order of art is kittens)
 
 - Dave
 
 






Re: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Tim,

Sharpening is not an issue with me. Nice trophy shot with some good
action.
Well done!!

Jack

--- Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
 yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards. 
 
 Here is one of the things I experienced
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
 
 This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is
 a
 keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the
 details
 out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a
 lot to
 learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good
 sign ;-)
 
 What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the
 feathers, and
 off course, the action.
 
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
 
 


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RE: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Since PP was my abbreviation I'm asking you to enlighten me. What did I say
wrong this time? 
Judging from the reactions it's got to be something annal, eh anal ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10. april 2006 06:27
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes
 
 Very nice, Jostein.
 
 I, however, am not impressed by your PP.
 
 Thankfully, I've never seen your PP.
 
 Doug
 
 On Apr 9, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Jostein wrote:
 
  Here's the last PESOs from Newcastle for the time being:
 
  http://www.oksne.net/paw/kittiwakes.html
 
  http://www.oksne.net/paw/BridgeMosaic.html
 
  Thanks for looking.
 
 
  Jostein
 
 





Re: OT: Seeking Book Recommendations

2006-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote:

Thanks for all your suggestions guys.

A quick search on the various books turns up some potentially very
inspiring reading/viewing.

Mark I have to say, An Anthropologist on Mars sounds really
interesting. I've already found a local source, so that will be the
first pick of the bunch.

Another Sacks book, The Island of the Colorblind has also been
highly recommended for photographers but I haven't got to that one
yet. It's on my list for this summer.



RE: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Based on your and Jack's input I did another crop. I played safe and used
the rules of third. If you are interested, it is at a thumb below the
picture. The remaining problem is that the second bird doesn't stand out of
the ground. Not much to do about that I guess. 

BTW. My trigger finger is ok. Today I'll give it some real exercise and
bring along my image tank ;-)

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10. april 2006 16:41
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 Tim, it doesn't look over sharpened to me.
 
 Compositionally, the location of the lower bird causes the bird to get
 lost
 in the ground clutter.
 The upper bird is a good capture especially back lit as it is. But I'd
 loose
 some of the background water above the bird.
 The cocked shore line is a minor distraction to me.
 
 2GB huh, you must have a tired finger!
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 
  Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
  yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.
 
  Here is one of the things I experienced
  http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
 
  This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
  keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the
  details
  out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot
  to
  learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign
 ;-)
 
  What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers,
  and
  off course, the action.
 
 
  Tim
  Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
  Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
  (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
 
 






Re: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread pnstenquist
I like the square second version best. The composition works for me. You might 
try exposing for the shadows on backlit shots and letting the background burn 
out a bit. You might also try the shadows/highlight tool if you're working in 
PhotoShop.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
 yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards. 
 
 Here is one of the things I experienced
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
 
 This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
 keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the details
 out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot to
 learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign ;-)
 
 What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers, and
 off course, the action.
 
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
 



Re: Paw Digital IR with Sepia

2006-04-10 Thread wendy beard
On 4/9/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=sepiaIR.jpg

Really nice, Dave!
--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada



RE: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Jack should be Don. Sorry Don

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10. april 2006 17:13
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 Based on your and Jack's input I did another crop. I played safe and used
 the rules of third. If you are interested, it is at a thumb below the
 picture. The remaining problem is that the second bird doesn't stand out
 of
 the ground. Not much to do about that I guess.
 
 BTW. My trigger finger is ok. Today I'll give it some real exercise and
 bring along my image tank ;-)
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 10. april 2006 16:41
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
  Tim, it doesn't look over sharpened to me.
 
  Compositionally, the location of the lower bird causes the bird to get
  lost
  in the ground clutter.
  The upper bird is a good capture especially back lit as it is. But I'd
  loose
  some of the background water above the bird.
  The cocked shore line is a minor distraction to me.
 
  2GB huh, you must have a tired finger!
 
  Kenneth Waller
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 
   Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
   yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.
  
   Here is one of the things I experienced
   http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
  
   This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is
 a
   keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the
   details
   out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a
 lot
   to
   learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign
  ;-)
  
   What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the
 feathers,
   and
   off course, the action.
  
  
   Tim
   Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
   Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
   (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
  
  
 
 
 
 
 






Autofocus Lenses - The Quick and the Slow

2006-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My apologies if this appears twice on the list.  The original hasn't shown
up yet, and subsequent posts by others have and are already in the archive.

==

As I move gradually into the 21st century, autofocus lenses have become a
serious consideration, and the FA lenses are especially interesting at this
point. In trying a few different autofocus lenses it seems that some have a
shorter focus throw than others, and some may have even been faster to
focus than other lenses. For example, I used John Celio's 18~35 (or maybe
it was an 18~55) and the focus throw seemed quite short and the lens seemed
to focus faster than the 77mm Ltd. I say seemed because I didn't have the
77mm at the time in order to make a direct comparison.

 
So, my questions to the list are these: 

 
* Are there any AF lenses (FA or otherwise) that definitely focus faster
than other lenses? 

 
* Do lighter weight plastic-bodied lenses focus faster than the
heavier-bodied metal lenses? 

 
* Would a shorter focus throw be an indicator of a faster focusing lens? 

 
* Are there any Pentax lenses, and maybe even third party lenses, that are
noted for poor autofocus performance, which are they, and in what areas do
they perform poorly? 

 
* In general, do the DA lenses focus faster or more accurately than FA
lenses? 

 
* What's the best and the worst autofocus lens you've used (wrt focusing
speed and accuracy)? 

 
* Which autofocus lenses do you prefer for manual focusing, and why?

 
* Are there any things that can be done to improve focusing speed and
accuracy with a given lens?

 
Thanks for any help.
 
Shel





RE: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
I could be a Curlew (Storspov in Norwegian). 
But there is a smaller very similar relative, with the Latin name Numenius
phaeopus (Småspov). They where hunting crabs, and I don't believe Curlew
hunts crabs. So it could also be that one. Size of the bird also indicates
Småspov. 
I'm no expert, both species are observed here.

I have other shots of the same bird, more specie oriented shots ...


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

 -Original Message-
 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 10. april 2006 17:19
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
 
 
  From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2006/04/10 Mon PM 02:05:00 GMT
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
 
  Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
  yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.
 
  Here is one of the things I experienced
  http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
 
  This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
  keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the
 details
  out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a lot
 to
  learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign
 ;-)
 
  What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers,
 and
  off course, the action.
 
 
 Doesn't look too sharp [-ened 8-)] to me.  The bird is called Curlew in
 English.
 
 m
 
 
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Re: Paw Digital IR with Sepia

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Maas

wendy beard wrote:

On 4/9/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=sepiaIR.jpg



Really nice, Dave!
--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada


Ditto!

-Adam



Re: PESO: Waiting.

2006-04-10 Thread Don Williams
That ewe should have lambed by now. Why not go back and see if you can 
find the babies.
I'll bet there are two. I hope they are not to be some families Easter 
dinner. But they'd still

be some weeks too young for that.

She has such a serene look on her face -- inscrutable is the word I was 
looking for. I've been
back to look at that picture several times. Its great. Too bad her 
children are to be murdered.


Don

Tim Øsleby wrote:

Over sharpened? Maybe. I think it's a matter of preferences. I wanted it to
stand out, against the soft background. With less sharpening, the whites
behind the head of the sheep became a distraction.

Markus. It is not among my first shots. So I do believe I'm close to taming
it ;-) It is heavy, 2,3 kg. So I wouldn't dream about shooting without
tripod. 


I'm about to post something crappy, stay tuned ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)


  

-Original Message-
From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9. april 2006 11:14
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO: Waiting.

Hi Tim
I really like this portrait here but would wish it to be a bit softer
around
the sheep. For my taste it is over sharpened in post processing, could
that
be or maybe I'm just awaiting crappy results ;-)
Is this one of your first shots with the Tokina and what are your
impressions so far. How heavy is that beast?

greetings
Markus






-Original Message-
From: Perry Pellechia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:35 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Waiting.


That's not bd at all.  If fact it is a very good portrait.  I like
it with the background highlights, but its hard to say if it would be
better with them toned down.

On 4/8/06, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Going back and forth to my bird spot, I pass some sheeps. This
  

one caught my


eye today. Big as an elephant, she was waiting for the event,
  

patiently. The


scene set me in a near religious mood. There was something very
  

touching


with her.

http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229676
*istDS, 800 ISO raw, -0,7EV, Tokina AT-X 150-500/5,6, f:8, 1/250s.
Converted in RSP. Some Healing brush to get dampen some fuzz in
  







  



--
Dr E D F Williams
www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/
personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/
41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616



RE: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Tim,
I actually agree with the idea of cropping some from the top, AWS
squaring up the scene. I'm just too easy. 8-/

Jack


--- Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jack should be Don. Sorry Don
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 10. april 2006 17:13
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: RE: This beach is not big enough for both of us
  
  Based on your and Jack's input I did another crop. I played safe
 and used
  the rules of third. If you are interested, it is at a thumb below
 the
  picture. The remaining problem is that the second bird doesn't
 stand out
  of
  the ground. Not much to do about that I guess.
  
  BTW. My trigger finger is ok. Today I'll give it some real exercise
 and
  bring along my image tank ;-)
  
  Tim
  Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
  Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
  (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 10. april 2006 16:41
   To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
   Subject: Re: This beach is not big enough for both of us
  
   Tim, it doesn't look over sharpened to me.
  
   Compositionally, the location of the lower bird causes the bird
 to get
   lost
   in the ground clutter.
   The upper bird is a good capture especially back lit as it is.
 But I'd
   loose
   some of the background water above the bird.
   The cocked shore line is a minor distraction to me.
  
   2GB huh, you must have a tired finger!
  
   Kenneth Waller
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us
  
  
Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours
 there
yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.
   
Here is one of the things I experienced
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864
   
This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think
 it is
  a
keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get
 the
details
out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still
 got a
  lot
to
learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a
 good sign
   ;-)
   
What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the
  feathers,
and
off course, the action.
   
   
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
   
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Paw Digital IR with Sepia

2006-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On 4/9/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/? 
action=viewcurrent=sepiaIR.jpg


Very nice indeed. Worthy of a good sized print, a nice matte and  
frame. Well done!


Godfrey



Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Unca Mikey
Has anyone read or heard anything about the status or future of the 
Pentax *ist 35mm SLR?  It's still shown on the Pentax USA site, but 
is no longer in the catalog for BH or Adorama.  Amazon shows it as 
not in stock and some other sites show the model as discontinued. 
Is there any official word?  I emailed Pentax, but no answer yet.


I know the *ist is not highly regarded in PDML-land, but I love my 
*ist -- if they really are discontinued, I may have to buy one on 
closeout somewhere or on ebay, just to have a backup.


*UncaMikey



PESO: English saddle in S Louisiana

2006-04-10 Thread Mark Stringer

http://www.cmstringer.com/allie/large/0016.jpg
Late afternoon sun.
A rare entry for me.  I shot it as a jpg and worked it over in PS6 in Adobe 
RGB 1998 work space.  When I can use PS6 a little I want to move up to CS2. 
I wish I had shot this as a raw file.  Everytime I shoot jpg's I wish I had 
shot raw.


Saved this with the Adobe RGB 1998 profile embedded but seems that nothing 
reads it but PS.  Saved it with sRGB and everything reads it.  See, I 
learned something.


Mark Stringer



Re: (Thanks)Paw Digital IR with Sepia

2006-04-10 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks to everyone who commented on the picture. It certainly helped 
brighten up a rather frustrating weekend.:-)I was kind of expecting a 
not so warm reception on this one for some reason.


As far as the print, i think this will be a good test of the R220 when 
i set it up. I have the MIS inks now.


Now, didi i save not only the web version, but the conversion itself.??

If not, i remember what i did. Godfreys channel mixer starter %'s, a 
curve tweak of the midtone and the sepia filter.


Thanks again everyone.

Dave

Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 4/9/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/? 
action=viewcurrent=sepiaIR.jpg


Very nice indeed. Worthy of a good sized print, a nice matte and  
frame. Well done!


Godfrey






Equine Photography in York Region



PESO - Signs of spring

2006-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
We have had a very strange spring here.  We had some beautiful days in
February and then March came setting records for number of days with
rain - 20 right where I live.  April is looking the same so far.  So
we had spring blossoms opening up in February (early) and then kind of
struggled along since.  I caught this one just as the rain ended for a
short while this morning.  I took several and decided that I liked the
foliage in the top left corner - sort of anchored it and gave it a
sense of place.


Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, Tripod
ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3094.htm

Comments welcome

-- 
Bruce



Re: Thoughts on cameras, and a PESO (was Re: OT Nother test)

2006-04-10 Thread Gabriel Cain
Cotty wrote:
 On 10/4/06, Gabriel Cain, discombobulated, unleashed:

 That's the 5D or the 1Ds Gabe.

*face palm*  That's true.   Very discombobulated.

Gabriel



PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread Powell Hargrave
PC Inspector image recovery program:
http://www.pcinspector.de/smart_media_recovery/uk/welcome.htm

This pay what you want shareware program works well recovering Pentax PEF
RAW files from flash cards after an accidental delete or format.  The TIFF
option must be selected in the Format Type option menu and the recovered
files will have a .tif extension.  They can be renamed to .pef files.
Adobe PSCS2 and Bridge will open the .tif files properly.

I emailed offering to send a PEF file so they could add Pentax to their
Format options with the following results.  It would be nice if they added
Pentax but the program is still a great utility to have as it works.

Powell
==

Dear Mr. Hargrave,

Thank you for contacting PC Inspector Service Team.

Normally, in order to include further formats in our list of supported
files you could simply send us three samples attached in an email of the
format you are attempting to recover.

However, at the moment, we are not accepting requests for new formats, as
the number of queries received have exceeded the available time to test
each file and eventually rewrite the software accordingly.

We are sorry about this inconvenience. We invite you to contact us again in
the near future if you wish to have the format included, so that we can
inform you whether we are again accepting new formats.

We apologise for this inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

Best regards,

PC Inspector Service Team
Massachusetts Avenue 4600
66953 Pirmasens, RP (Germany)
Lara Freiria

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
www.pcinspector.de


Dear Team,

It has been found that using the TIFF option in your selection menu will
properly retrieve Pentax PEF RAW files.  This has been tested by several
people and with different model Pentax DSLR cameras.  The only 'small'
problem is that the retrieved files are of course named as .tif.  

It should be easy for you to add a Pentax option to the selection menu
which uses the TIFF recovery and changes the file extension to .pef.

Likely the easiest option addition you ever make.  Thanks for you
consideration and the fine program with does work almost perfectly
recovering Pentax PEF RAW files.

All the best
Powell Hargrave



Re: PESO: English saddle in S Louisiana

2006-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
The one issue for me with this one is that there seems to be two
subjects.  Your title indicates that the saddle is it, but in the
photo, the rider/horse is perhaps more dominant than the saddle.  It
would have been nicer to use some technique (DOF or exposure) to
emphasize the saddle.  Since you were playing around in photoshop, I
would take another stab and perhaps dodging the riding or using some
blur or something to see if you can bring the saddle into prominence.

My thoughts...

-- 
Bruce


Monday, April 10, 2006, 9:42:23 AM, you wrote:

MS http://www.cmstringer.com/allie/large/0016.jpg
MS Late afternoon sun.
MS A rare entry for me.  I shot it as a jpg and worked it over in PS6 in Adobe
MS RGB 1998 work space.  When I can use PS6 a little I want to move up to CS2.
MS I wish I had shot this as a raw file.  Everytime I shoot jpg's I wish I had
MS shot raw.

MS Saved this with the Adobe RGB 1998 profile embedded but seems that nothing
MS reads it but PS.  Saved it with sRGB and everything reads it. See, I
MS learned something.

MS Mark Stringer



Re: This beach is not big enough for both of us

2006-04-10 Thread Kenneth Waller

The square version is an improvement over the original.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: This beach is not big enough for both of us



Based on your and Jack's input I did another crop. I played safe and used
the rules of third. If you are interested, it is at a thumb below the
picture. The remaining problem is that the second bird doesn't stand out 
of

the ground. Not much to do about that I guess.

BTW. My trigger finger is ok. Today I'll give it some real exercise and
bring along my image tank ;-)

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)


-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10. april 2006 16:41
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: This beach is not big enough for both of us

Tim, it doesn't look over sharpened to me.

Compositionally, the location of the lower bird causes the bird to get
lost
in the ground clutter.
The upper bird is a good capture especially back lit as it is. But I'd
loose
some of the background water above the bird.
The cocked shore line is a minor distraction to me.

2GB huh, you must have a tired finger!

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: This beach is not big enough for both of us


 Now, I've made the gapahuk (the camouflage). Spent two hours there
 yesterday. Great fun. Filled two 1Gb cards.

 Here is one of the things I experienced
 http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=229864

 This is over sharpened IMO. It needs some more tweaking I think it is a
 keeper. Post processing was hard, contrasty. It was hard to get the
 details
 out of the shadows. This is the best I can do for now. I still got a 
 lot

 to
 learn. But now I find raw processing fun. I believe that's a good sign
;-)

 What I like about this picture is the sun shining through the feathers,
 and
 off course, the action.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)

 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)












Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/10/06, Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone read or heard anything about the status or future of the
 Pentax *ist 35mm SLR?  It's still shown on the Pentax USA site, but
 is no longer in the catalog for BH or Adorama.  Amazon shows it as
 not in stock and some other sites show the model as discontinued.
 Is there any official word?  I emailed Pentax, but no answer yet.

 I know the *ist is not highly regarded in PDML-land, but I love my
 *ist -- if they really are discontinued, I may have to buy one on
 closeout somewhere or on ebay, just to have a backup.


KEH usually has a couple in stock.  They don't now, but the last few
they've had have been listed as LN condition, which means they come
with everything that was originally in the box.  You might keep an eye
on their site.


--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

--
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman



RE: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
If you like the camera, find one and buy it ASAP. Everyone needs a backup
camera at some time.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Unca Mikey 

 Has anyone read or heard anything about the status or future of the 
 Pentax *ist 35mm SLR?  It's still shown on the Pentax USA site, but 
 is no longer in the catalog for BH or Adorama.  Amazon shows it as 
 not in stock and some other sites show the model as discontinued. 
 Is there any official word?  I emailed Pentax, but no answer yet.

 I know the *ist is not highly regarded in PDML-land, but I love my 
 *ist -- if they really are discontinued, I may have to buy one on 
 closeout somewhere or on ebay, just to have a backup.

 *UncaMikey




Autofocus Lenses - The Quick and the Slow

2006-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My apologies if this appears twice on the list.  The original hasn't shown
up yet, and subsequent posts by others have and are already in the archive.

==

As I move gradually into the 21st century, autofocus lenses have become a
serious consideration, and the FA lenses are especially interesting at this
point. In trying a few different autofocus lenses it seems that some have a
shorter focus throw than others, and some may have even been faster to
focus than other lenses. For example, I used John Celio's 18~35 (or maybe
it was an 18~55) and the focus throw seemed quite short and the lens seemed
to focus faster than the 77mm Ltd. I say seemed because I didn't have the
77mm at the time in order to make a direct comparison.

 
So, my questions to the list are these: 

 
* Are there any AF lenses (FA or otherwise) that definitely focus faster
than other lenses? 

 
* Do lighter weight plastic-bodied lenses focus faster than the
heavier-bodied metal lenses? 

 
* Would a shorter focus throw be an indicator of a faster focusing lens? 

 
* Are there any Pentax lenses, and maybe even third party lenses, that are
noted for poor autofocus performance, which are they, and in what areas do
they perform poorly? 

 
* In general, do the DA lenses focus faster or more accurately than FA
lenses? 

 
* What's the best and the worst autofocus lens you've used (wrt focusing
speed and accuracy)? 

 
* Which autofocus lenses do you prefer for manual focusing, and why?

 
* Are there any things that can be done to improve focusing speed and
accuracy with a given lens?

 
Thanks for any help.
 
Shel








Re: Autofocus Lenses - The Quick and the Slow

2006-04-10 Thread Igor Roshchin


Shel, 
Congratulations! It's about time to do that move (I mean to the 21st century). 
At this rate, you should
consider preparing for the 22nd century much earlier.. maybe starting
next year. :-)

Let me share some of my experience.
AF speed consists of two parameters:
1. how fast the motor moves from any focusing position to the target one.
 a) what is the maximum throw
 b) how much of that it has to travel for the given shot
2. how long it is hunting.

The first component can indeed be affected by the focus throw.
It can also be affected by the weight of the portion of the lens that
needs to be rotated.
E.g. Tokina ATX Pro lenses have a clutch (don't mix it with the one 
found on Pentax D-FA lenses) mechanism where you can 
decouple the internal focusing from the external focusing ring
which makes AF much faster.  Thus, AF on this otherwise heavy lens 
is rather fast.

You can improve the AF speed and accuracy if you focus (or prefocus)
on the objects with sharp distinct and high contrast.
When the camera has more than one element that can be used for focusing,
I usually use the central one, aim it at the said object, focus and lock
the focus (by pressing the button half-way), then recompose.
When I am expecting some action shot, I usually prefocus roughly -
so to shorten the required rotation. This can also help to avoid
AF overshooting badly and therefore hunting (in particular on 
slower lenses in a low light situation - e.g. with my Tamron 70-300/4-5.6)
In low light/contrast situations I switch to manual focus.
I also do this sometimes when I am shooting several shots in a row -
in the multiple-shot mode. This allows to avoid refocusing between
the shots.

Bright, high-speed lenses usually have faster AF compared to the
slower lenses with the same focal length.

I find AF speed on *ist DS to be noticeably slower than that of ZX-5n.
(I am not even trying to compare it to that of Nikon DSLRs).

I am much less used to the continuous AF mode. In a low light situation
combined with overall slow AF of the DS, I find it more practical to
use a single-shot AF mode, otherwise I get too much hunting. 

Hope this flow of consciousness happening Monday morning is helpful. :-)

Igor



Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:21:08 -0700
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

My apologies if this appears twice on the list.  The original hasn't shown
up yet, and subsequent posts by others have and are already in the archive.

==

As I move gradually into the 21st century, autofocus lenses have become a
serious consideration, and the FA lenses are especially interesting at this
point. In trying a few different autofocus lenses it seems that some have a
shorter focus throw than others, and some may have even been faster to
focus than other lenses. For example, I used John Celio's 18~35 (or maybe
it was an 18~55) and the focus throw seemed quite short and the lens seemed
to focus faster than the 77mm Ltd. I say seemed because I didn't have the
77mm at the time in order to make a direct comparison.

 
So, my questions to the list are these: 

 
* Are there any AF lenses (FA or otherwise) that definitely focus faster
than other lenses? 

 
* Do lighter weight plastic-bodied lenses focus faster than the
heavier-bodied metal lenses? 

 
* Would a shorter focus throw be an indicator of a faster focusing lens? 

 
* Are there any Pentax lenses, and maybe even third party lenses, that are
noted for poor autofocus performance, which are they, and in what areas do
they perform poorly? 

 
* In general, do the DA lenses focus faster or more accurately than FA
lenses? 

 
* What's the best and the worst autofocus lens you've used (wrt focusing
speed and accuracy)? 

 
* Which autofocus lenses do you prefer for manual focusing, and why?

 
* Are there any things that can be done to improve focusing speed and
accuracy with a given lens?

 
Thanks for any help.
 
Shel





Re: PESO - Signs of spring

2006-04-10 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl
Bruce,

  Nice shot.  I went through the images and enjoyed your beach
  shots as well as the wild turkeys.

  One trick I learned a few years ago turns long lenses into
  quasi-macro for flowers, etc.   Just put a short extension tube
  behind it.  Does wonders for flowers, etc.

  Collin
  KC8TKA



Re: Autofocus Lenses - The Quick and the Slow

2006-04-10 Thread Joseph Tainter

Shel, answering what I can:

* Would a shorter focus throw be an indicator of a faster 
focusing lens?


I think this is a big part of the reason why short focus throw 
was designed.



* Are there any Pentax lenses, and maybe even third party 
lenses, that are noted for poor autofocus performance, which are 
they, and in what areas do they perform poorly?


There are some reports of pre-digital Sigma lenses not 
autofocusing accurately on Pentax DSLRs. I'm not sure which 
lenses. Sigma often seems to have such problems. But when such a 
problem comes up, they often put a new chip in the lens for free.


Pentax's current DSLRs all autofocus relatively slowly in lower 
light levels. The forthcoming D+ may improve that, we hope.


Joe



KEH (was Re: Status of *ist 35mm?)

2006-04-10 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl
Anyone want a D digital should also check out KEH.
  They've marked down several of them.

  Collin
  KC8TKA



Re: SMC K 18/3.5 - loose filter switch

2006-04-10 Thread Pawel Bartuzi

Hi,

Thank you very much for such a quick reply. I was hoping the solution is 
so simple and indeed it was - now the lens is as new and nothing rattles 
in it. Time to go to take some photos.


Pawel


Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Hi,

I had that very same problem on my lens.  I was told that it was normal. 
It's not.  The fix is simple.  It's a matter of removing the beauty ring

and then carefully tightening the small screws that secure the switch.  I'm
a clutz, so I had someone more skilled do it for me.  It was a quick repair.

Don't let it go too much longer.  You don't want any of the screws to fall
out, which may cause damage.

Shel
  




Re: PESO - Signs of spring

2006-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

 We have had a very strange spring here.  We had some beautiful days in
 February and then March came setting records for number of days with
 rain - 20 right where I live.  April is looking the same so far.  So
 we had spring blossoms opening up in February (early) and then kind of
 struggled along since.  I caught this one just as the rain ended for a
 short while this morning.  I took several and decided that I liked the
 foliage in the top left corner - sort of anchored it and gave it a
 sense of place.


 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, Tripod
 ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3094.htm

Bruce, the lower left corner needs your attention. Otherwise, it is
very tender, just like it should be... Well done...

--
Boris



Re: PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread Steve Jolly

Powell Hargrave wrote:

It should be easy for you to add a Pentax option to the selection menu
which uses the TIFF recovery and changes the file extension to .pef.

Likely the easiest option addition you ever make.  Thanks for you
consideration and the fine program with does work almost perfectly
recovering Pentax PEF RAW files.


To be fair to them, it would be better to have the program detect when a 
TIFF file was a Pentax RAW file and handle it automatically - otherwise 
you'll run into problems if you have a mixture of PEF and TIFF files on 
the same disk - so it's possibly not quite as easy as you might think...


S



Re: PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread Powell Hargrave
Had not thought of that as the DS will not produce TIFF files.

Powell

To be fair to them, it would be better to have the program detect when a 
TIFF file was a Pentax RAW file and handle it automatically - otherwise 
you'll run into problems if you have a mixture of PEF and TIFF files on 
the same disk - so it's possibly not quite as easy as you might think...

S




Re: PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread Powell Hargrave
Does anyone actually shoot TIFF with the D?  Would not seem to be a good
option as it is not as good as RAW and only slightly if any better that
Jpeg and 10 times the file size.


At 11:26 AM 10/04/2006 , I wrote:
Had not thought of that as the DS will not produce TIFF files.

Powell

To be fair to them, it would be better to have the program detect when a 
TIFF file was a Pentax RAW file and handle it automatically - otherwise 
you'll run into problems if you have a mixture of PEF and TIFF files on 
the same disk - so it's possibly not quite as easy as you might think...

S




Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I agree with Shel. Manufacturers are closing production on 35mm  
cameras very quickly due to the abyss that sales figures have fallen  
into. If you like the camera and want to continue using them, buy a  
new backup ASAP if you can afford to, and if you can find one.


Godfrey

On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

If you like the camera, find one and buy it ASAP. Everyone needs a  
backup

camera at some time.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Unca Mikey



Has anyone read or heard anything about the status or future of the
Pentax *ist 35mm SLR?  It's still shown on the Pentax USA site, but
is no longer in the catalog for BH or Adorama.  Amazon shows it as
not in stock and some other sites show the model as discontinued.
Is there any official word?  I emailed Pentax, but no answer yet.

I know the *ist is not highly regarded in PDML-land, but I love my
*ist -- if they really are discontinued, I may have to buy one on
closeout somewhere or on ebay, just to have a backup.

*UncaMikey







*ist Ds and virus ?

2006-04-10 Thread Sandra Hermann





I have a laptop that has never been online. I use it to store pictures and 
play CC.  Today I turned it on and It informed me that the operating system 
was not availible.  Is there anyway I have a virus coming from my camera to 
the computer?  This is the second time the computer has completely lost it's 
operating system in the space of 2 months.   the laptop is only 6 months 
old.Command and Conquer is on a cd.  I have had it on every computer I 
owned at one point or another.  It is on this computer and it acts fine.   
That is why I am questioning the camera connection.

sandy




Re: PAW - Incoming Storm

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/9/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This was taken on the same day as my previous PAW, as we were heading
 at breakneck speed towards Picton before the rain hit us.  This was
 the last photo on the roll.

 It was quite an experience, trying to take photos one-handed while
 holding on for dear life as the water was getting choppy and the boat
 was going pretty fast.  Trying to time the shots between the showers
 of spray.  Using a K2 which has no power-winder.  I'm amazed that I
 actually got the horizon straight...

 http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=352t=1


Very dramatic photograph!

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Pentax K to EOS Adaptor.

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Maas
Cameraquest is selling them now. Apparently they've figured out a way to 
do them without transplanting mounts. APS format only, so you probably 
don't have to do any surgery to the aperture lever.


Still no good for Cotty though (Although this might reduce the amount of 
surgery he has to do).


-Adam



RE: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Unca Mikey
Good advice all, thanks.  I've started scoping 
out some possibilities to get a backup *ist.  I 
had already planned on getting a FA 20-35mm 
fairly soon, so it looks like a MasterCard kind 
of month!


*UncaMikey



Re: Autofocus Lenses - The Quick and the Slow

2006-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Apr 10, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

My apologies if this appears twice on the list.  The original  
hasn't shown
up yet, and subsequent posts by others have and are already in the  
archive.


First I've seen of it. PDML message traffic has been unusually  
irregular for several days. For instance, I don't know if the PAW  
message I posted four days ago has even been seen by anyone ...


Your questions are a bit more general than I feel comfortable  
answering ... I've owned six or seven Pentax AF lenses and they are  
much of a sameness to me overall. But I'll comment as I feel  
appropriate.


* Are there any AF lenses (FA or otherwise) that definitely focus  
faster

than other lenses?


Longer focal lengths generally take more time to focus than shorter  
because there's more travel to deal with in the focusing mount.  
Internal focusing lenses focus more swiftly than displacement  
focusing lenses, front element focusing lenses often focus faster  
than internal, etc. It's a matter with several dimensions: the  
available power at the focus servo drive, the individual lens'  
particular focus throw and friction in its drive mechanism, and the  
AF discriminator's interaction with a particular lens' contrast and  
resolution when wide open.


* What's the best and the worst autofocus lens you've used (wrt  
focusing

speed and accuracy)?


I find focusing performance on my Pentax lenses runs like this from  
best to worst:

FA 20-35/4 AL
FA 35/2 AL
FA 135/2.8 IF
FA 50/1.4
F 35-70/3.5-4.5 macro
FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 AL [IF] (now sold)
DA 14/2.8
F 100-300/4.5-5.6

The DA14 and FA28-105 rank relatively poorly not because they are not  
quick but because on the DS body they are the two that seemed the  
most likely to get close then fail to make AF lock. The F100-300 is  
predictably the slowest focusing as it has the longest focal length  
and one of the poorest performances optically when wide open. The  
other  five lenses are extremely close together in performance and  
could easily be ordered slightly differently.




* Do lighter weight plastic-bodied lenses focus faster than the
heavier-bodied metal lenses?


I had the FA31/1.8 Ltd and didn't notice anything particularly  
special or unusual about its focusing compared to the FA35/2.



* In general, do the DA lenses focus faster or more accurately than FA
lenses?


Can't say as I've noticed a huge difference between the DA14 and  
DA16-45 vs the other lenses above. The DA14 like the FA28-105 seems  
to get into an ambiguous state more often than others, the 16-45 and  
20-35 seem about the same. One of the nice things about the DA lenses  
is that they all have the QuickShift focusing feature, which I find  
very helpful.



* Which autofocus lenses do you prefer for manual focusing, and why?


I've sold all my manual focus Pentax lenses and upgraded to the AF  
versions except for the A50/2.8 macro. I prefer having the AF option  
most of the time, even if I focus manually quite a bit anyway. The  
reason I kept the A50/2.8 rather than upgrade is that I don't see the  
need for AF with a Macro lens. The only AF lens that I find the  
manual focusing to be poor with is the FA135/2.8 IF ... its internal  
focusing mechanism always feels too loose and is short throw, hard to  
be precise with when near infinity setting.



* Are there any things that can be done to improve focusing speed and
accuracy with a given lens?


AF: some folks say they get better focusing by locking to the center  
AF sensor or using the manually selected multipoint sensor array. I  
find I get just as good performance with fully automatic pattern  
focusing and just flip to MF when it's not locking in on what I want  
reliably.


MF: Practice. Ignore the focus indicator, turn off the 'hot point'  
overlay, use a 2x Magnifier FB when really critical stuff is necessary.


Godfrey



Re: PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread Tom C
I did before changing to RAW files.  IMO there's a very good reason for 
shooting .TIF depending on what one's preferences are.


It comes down to two things.

1. It does not have the artifact compression issues of .jpg.
2. It does not require the subsequent RAW conversion.



Tom C.


Does anyone actually shoot TIFF with the D?  Would not seem to be a good
option as it is not as good as RAW and only slightly if any better that
Jpeg and 10 times the file size.







Is Schmelter Unomat 918 B flash suitable for MZ-S

2006-04-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis


I just took delivery of a used MZ-S and would like to test the 
shutter. I have a Schmelter Unomat 918 B flash that came in with a 
bundle I cannot recall a while back and it's the only flash 
readily available to me that has a sync cord.


Does anyone know this flash? Is it likely to damage the flash circuit 
of the camera?


Thanks,

Kostas



Re: *ist Ds and virus ?

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Maas

Sounds more like a bad harddrive than anything else.

-Adam



Sandra Hermann wrote:





I have a laptop that has never been online. I use it to store pictures 
and play CC.  Today I turned it on and It informed me that the 
operating system was not availible.  Is there anyway I have a virus 
coming from my camera to the computer?  This is the second time the 
computer has completely lost it's operating system in the space of 2 
months.   the laptop is only 6 months old.Command and Conquer is on 
a cd.  I have had it on every computer I owned at one point or another.  
It is on this computer and it acts fine.   That is why I am questioning 
the camera connection.

sandy





Re: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/9/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's the last PESOs from Newcastle for the time being:

 http://www.oksne.net/paw/kittiwakes.html

They look like freaking seagulls to me...

Very cool shot of the bridge, though.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO x2 - Bridges and kittiwakes

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/9/06, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 http://www.oksne.net/paw/BridgeMosaic.html


So, it's not a pano, it's a mosaic?  g

Whatever, it's quite lovely.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 4/10/06, Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good advice all, thanks.  I've started scoping
 out some possibilities to get a backup *ist.  I
 had already planned on getting a FA 20-35mm
 fairly soon, so it looks like a MasterCard kind
 of month!

For a while now I've been considering buying an MZ-S or PZ-1 to
complement the *ist.  The main reason for this is that I have quite a
few M series primes and would like a body that will allow me to use
them while maintaining the full functionality of modern auto focus
lenses.  However, the more I use the *ist the more I like it.  The
meter is absolutely amazing when it comes to exposing slide film, auto
focus is fast, and with the grip it's very comfortable (and still very
light).  I'm now considering selling off my manual focus gear and
taking that big step into the modern world - auto focus primes!

This is most likely Bill's fault.


--
Scott Loveless
Luddite
http://www.twosixteen.com



Re: *ist Ds and virus ?

2006-04-10 Thread Sandra Hermann
That is what I was thinking too.  I have very little computer knowledge past 
the software stuff.




http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154






From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: *ist Ds and virus ?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:21:41 -0400

Sounds more like a bad harddrive than anything else.

-Adam



Sandra Hermann wrote:





I have a laptop that has never been online. I use it to store pictures and 
play CC.  Today I turned it on and It informed me that the operating 
system was not availible.  Is there anyway I have a virus coming from my 
camera to the computer?  This is the second time the computer has 
completely lost it's operating system in the space of 2 months.   the 
laptop is only 6 months old.Command and Conquer is on a cd.  I have 
had it on every computer I owned at one point or another.  It is on this 
computer and it acts fine.   That is why I am questioning the camera 
connection.

sandy








Pentax Share Price

2006-04-10 Thread John Forbes
Pentax shares hit their highest level for 15 years yesterday, after a  
newspaper reported that profits would rise substantially this year.


John

--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/



Re: *ist Ds and virus ?

2006-04-10 Thread Thibouille
Was the camera pligged into the laptop when you turned it on ?

On 4/10/06, Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 I have a laptop that has never been online. I use it to store pictures and
 play CC.  Today I turned it on and It informed me that the operating system
 was not availible.  Is there anyway I have a virus coming from my camera to
 the computer?  This is the second time the computer has completely lost it's
 operating system in the space of 2 months.   the laptop is only 6 months
 old.Command and Conquer is on a cd.  I have had it on every computer I
 owned at one point or another.  It is on this computer and it acts fine.
 That is why I am questioning the camera connection.
 sandy





--
--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...



Re:28-105 Q WAS F 35-135 NOT good in the aquarium

2006-04-10 Thread cbwaters

Is that the 62 or the 58 mm front?  Internal focus or not?

CW
- Original Message - 
From: Lucas Rijnders 

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:47:50 +0200, Mark Stringer  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



FA 28-105 f4-5.6 pz model was a favorite of mine for a film camera.


Seconded.


I still have it.  Very good lense, not much heavier than the 35-135


But not exactly light either :o)

--
Regards, Lucas





Re: Pentax K to EOS Adaptor.

2006-04-10 Thread wendy beard
On 4/10/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cameraquest is selling them now. Apparently they've figured out a way to
 do them without transplanting mounts. APS format only, so you probably
 don't have to do any surgery to the aperture lever.

 Still no good for Cotty though (Although this might reduce the amount of
 surgery he has to do).



a bargain at $175 

--
Wendy Beard
Ottawa
Canada



Re: Pentax K to EOS Adaptor.

2006-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cameraquest is selling them now. Apparently they've figured out a way to 
do them without transplanting mounts. APS format only, so you probably 
don't have to do any surgery to the aperture lever.

The word 'probably' just about sums it up. Discomforting lack of information:

http://www.cameraquest.com/frames/4saleReos.htm

I'm as mad as a March hare but even I wouldn't spend 175 bucks with
three lines of cak.


Still no good for Cotty though (Although this might reduce the amount of 
surgery he has to do).

I don't do surgery. I converted three lenses: K50mm 1.2 (originally a
test-bed now relegated to paperweight), K15mm 3.5 and A*85mm 1.4, the
last two in regular use. I won't convert any more.


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Sigma 70-200/2.8 compared to Bigma?

2006-04-10 Thread Derek
I have the Sigma 70-200/2.8  APO EX (not DG) and it works great on film and 
digital.  It is not only bright when you look through the viewfinder and easy 
to manually focus, its smallest aperture is F32, which I love for landscape 
shots.  I have not used the 50-500, but if you send it to me yours, I can try 
it out and give you a much more detailed comparison.

Good luck.

Derek


 -- Original message --
From: ing. David Lacina [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi,
 I'd like to buy a bit lighter lenses and am thinking about the Sigma 
 70-200/2.8  APO EX DG. I owned the Bigma 50-500/4-6.3 and would like 
 to ask someone for a comparison, are the images from the lighter lenses 
 significantly better than those from bigma in the 70-200 range, besides 
 that it has 2.8 aperture? Is there any other light tele lenses you 
 would recommend?
 
 Thanks,
 David.
 
 -- 
  ing. david lacina | http://photo.lacina.net | +47 90 85 82 01 
 
 




Re: Paw Digital IR with Sepia

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/9/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=sepiaIR.jpg

 Spent Fri/Sat at Jr's show so today was my day.:-)

 Shot a bunch around the farm, and this one seemed to have promise.

 istD with 16-45 and R72 filter. Manual WB set on grass.
 1/30 Tv and Av F4 tripod and hood.
 Converted to jpg in PSCS Raw, using chanel mixer and a bit of curves.
 Used photo filter for sepia.

 Shot into the sun, around 2pm

 Its not great, i'm still fiquiring out how to do the BW conversions,
 but comments welcome


I don't know why, but I really like this one a lot.

Terrific shot, Dave!!

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - I caught a Bandit !

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/10/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out

 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

 I caught this guy in the act

 Comments solicited

Cute little feller (as opposed to the large slovenly 'coons that
waddle around our neighbourhood terrorizing cats).

Great pose, love the way he's peeking between the branches.

Terrific photo, Ken!!  I'd say that one would sell a bundle should you
decide to market it.

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - Signs of spring

2006-04-10 Thread frank theriault
On 4/10/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have had a very strange spring here.  We had some beautiful days in
 February and then March came setting records for number of days with
 rain - 20 right where I live.  April is looking the same so far.  So
 we had spring blossoms opening up in February (early) and then kind of
 struggled along since.  I caught this one just as the rain ended for a
 short while this morning.  I took several and decided that I liked the
 foliage in the top left corner - sort of anchored it and gave it a
 sense of place.


 Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, Tripod
 ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3094.htm

 Comments welcome

So delicate and exquisite.

Just lovely, Bruce.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO - I caught a Bandit !

2006-04-10 Thread Bob Shell


On Apr 10, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

I caught this guy in the act

Comments solicited



Who was that masked man?

Bob



Re: *ist Ds and virus ?

2006-04-10 Thread Rick Womer
On many laptops it is easy to remove the hard
drive--it's under a cover (often with a latch), and
one just removes the cover and pulls out the drive. 
Try removing and reinserting it a few times.  This has
fixed the operating system not available problem a
few times on a Toshiba and an HP laptop.

Rick

--- Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 
 I have a laptop that has never been online. I use it
 to store pictures and 
 play CC.  Today I turned it on and It informed me
 that the operating system 
 was not availible.  Is there anyway I have a virus
 coming from my camera to 
 the computer?  This is the second time the computer
 has completely lost it's 
 operating system in the space of 2 months.   the
 laptop is only 6 months 
 old.Command and Conquer is on a cd.  I have had
 it on every computer I 
 owned at one point or another.  It is on this
 computer and it acts fine.   
 That is why I am questioning the camera connection.
 sandy
 
 
 


http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW

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Re: PESO - I caught a Bandit !

2006-04-10 Thread pnstenquist
Excellent. Nice composition, well executed.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Check out 
 
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 I caught this guy in the act
 
 Comments solicited
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 Kenneth Waller
 



Re: PESO - I caught a Bandit !

2006-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Even with the branches in the way, it is still a wonderful shot!  I'd
almost think that if those branches weren't there, it would look more
like a studio setup shot.  Nice work!

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, April 10, 2006, 1:58:56 PM, you wrote:

KW Check out 

KW http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

KW I caught this guy in the act

KW Comments solicited

KW Thanks in advance


KW Kenneth Waller



RE: PESO - I caught a Bandit !

2006-04-10 Thread Tom C

Nice Ken.

I agree that the branches add to the realism of the shot.

BTW, these guys aren't as cute and cuddly as they appear!

Tom C.







From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - I caught a Bandit !
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:58:56 -0400

Check out

http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html

I caught this guy in the act

Comments solicited

Thanks in advance


Kenneth Waller






Re: PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've never quite seen the point of TIFF capture either. On those of  
my cameras that supported TIFF capture, they all simultaneously  
create a JPEG with the current JPEG processing parameters. Setting  
the JPEG parameters to the full resolution, lowest compression  
settings, I have done pixel comparison of the two files on several  
occasions and, yes, there are a lot of differences in actual pixel  
values ... but printed to an 11x17 print, there was no apparent  
difference in color, sharpness or artifacts.


Godfrey

On Apr 10, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Powell Hargrave wrote:

Does anyone actually shoot TIFF with the D?  Would not seem to be a  
good
option as it is not as good as RAW and only slightly if any better  
that

Jpeg and 10 times the file size.


At 11:26 AM 10/04/2006 , I wrote:

Had not thought of that as the DS will not produce TIFF files.

Powell

To be fair to them, it would be better to have the program detect  
when a
TIFF file was a Pentax RAW file and handle it automatically -  
otherwise
you'll run into problems if you have a mixture of PEF and TIFF  
files on
the same disk - so it's possibly not quite as easy as you might  
think...


S







RE: *ist Ds and virus ?

2006-04-10 Thread Don Sanderson
I agree with Adam and Scott.
Laptop HDDs fail fairly often, try the unplug/plug thing.
As far as the virus from flash card, _very_ unlikely.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Womer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:12 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: *ist Ds and virus ?
 
 
 On many laptops it is easy to remove the hard
 drive--it's under a cover (often with a latch), and
 one just removes the cover and pulls out the drive. 
 Try removing and reinserting it a few times.  This has
 fixed the operating system not available problem a
 few times on a Toshiba and an HP laptop.
 
 Rick
 
 --- Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  
  
  
  I have a laptop that has never been online. I use it
  to store pictures and 
  play CC.  Today I turned it on and It informed me
  that the operating system 
  was not availible.  Is there anyway I have a virus
  coming from my camera to 
  the computer?  This is the second time the computer
  has completely lost it's 
  operating system in the space of 2 months.   the
  laptop is only 6 months 
  old.Command and Conquer is on a cd.  I have had
  it on every computer I 
  owned at one point or another.  It is on this
  computer and it acts fine.   
  That is why I am questioning the camera connection.
  sandy
  
  
  
 
 
 http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
 
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Re: PESO - I caught a Bandit !

2006-04-10 Thread Jack Davis
Nicely caught!
Nature calendar material. They doubtless have geeks who, with your
permission, might want to work with a couple branches that detract only
slightly from a perfect score.

Jack 

--- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check out 
 
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 I caught this guy in the act
 
 Comments solicited
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 


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Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder.

2006-04-10 Thread Tim Øsleby
Those of you reading the list lately may have noticed that I have a project
going on, that forces me to explore some new land (read learn new
techniques). 
How a bp should you avoid noticing that? With my endless ranting
questions ;-)

I have been talking about using longer lenses, building hides and so on.
This has been great fun, and I am learning a lot about photography and
birds. My longest glass that is usable is 500mm (with converter it tends to
be too soft), so I have to crop the pictures to make them interesting. 

This has made me realise that I am a lot better at composing in viewfinder
then I am with composing on computer screen. I have been thinking about
this. I have some ideas about why. 

First: 
It is that in the field I compose more on instinct. I am there, and I have
emotions about the motifs. My heart is involved, and I believe that it is my
heart that makes the composing decisions. Back at home, the motifs are more
distant to me, so there I compose by brain (and as you know, that's not much
of a brain).

The second reason has to do with the decisive moment:
When I shot slides my mind was in capture mode (sorry Shel, I know you
don't like that word). When pushing the button I knew that what is in frame,
stays in frame, and what is out of frame, stays out. (Everybody who has
tried masking slides in glassless frames, knows that you do everything you
can to avoid that activity later). 

Now, when shooting digitally, being forced to crop later something happens
with my mindset. There is no decisive moment in post processing on computer.
There is always possible to go back. 

What I'm saying is that I think I need the decisive moment to make a good
composition. I also need to be emotionally connected with the motif in some
way. 

But what do I do about this? Practise is one obvious answer. And I will
practise. But, I also have a strong belief in the power and wisdom of this
list. I would really surprise me if it doesn't burp up some good ideas and
advise. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)





Re: PC Inspector Image recovery info

2006-04-10 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Powell Hargrave wrote:


Does anyone actually shoot TIFF with the D?  Would not seem to be a good
option as it is not as good as RAW and only slightly if any better that
Jpeg and 10 times the file size.
 


I never have. Only JPEGs and Raw files.



Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Unca Mikey
The only thing I've heard against the *ist is the crippled mount -- 
and since I don't have any of the older lenses, it's not a big deal 
to me.  I thought about the MZ-S, but it doesn't work that well with 
lenses without an aperture ring, and it's much bigger/heavier than I 
would like.


I had a Spotmatic for 30+ years, but after about two years of using 
the *ist, I must have a thumbwheel!  LOL.  I could never go back to 
the old way of changing aperture and shutter speed, I am now addicted 
to having aperture and exposure compensation and DOF and AE lock all 
there at my thumb and forefinger.   I've tried manual focusing, but 
the camera is so much faster and more accurate, I gave up and just 
select the focus point instead.


Good luck with the primes, Scott -- I have the DA 40mm and the FA 
50mm f1.7, and they work great with this body, very handy.


*UncaMikey

--- Scott Loveless wrote:

 For a while now I've been considering buying an MZ-S or PZ-1 to
 complement the *ist.




FS: bargain Vivitar 28/2.8 A

2006-04-10 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Yes, an A-class lens.  Cheap.  $30 shipped in the US
Why so cheap?  Two reasons:
1)  The A pin won't retract.  So you'll either have to fix it or 
always use it in A mode.
2)  It has the Ricoh Program pin.  That means either it's not 
suitable for an AF body or the pin should be removed.

Those are two good reasons to sell it cheap.

PayPal preferred.

Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Re: Pentax K to EOS Adaptor.

2006-04-10 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Cotty wrote:


I don't do surgery. I converted three lenses: K50mm 1.2 (originally a
test-bed now relegated to paperweight),


Interesting. Why not a K55/1.8 or an M50/2 for a test? Has the 50 let 
you down in some respect?


Kostas



RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder.

2006-04-10 Thread Bob W
Hi,

first of all, I would question the following statements:

 photography and birds. My longest glass that is usable is 
 500mm (with converter it tends to be too soft), so I have to 
 crop the pictures to make them interesting. 

 Now, when shooting digitally, being forced to crop later 
 something happens with my mindset.

Why do you think you have to crop later? What is forcing you to do this?
Like you, I have shot mainly slides, and I prefer to compose in the
viewfinder. I never shoot with the intention of cropping later, and I very
rarely crop. When I've shot wildlife it has usually been with a 400m lens as
the longest, plus a 2X TC. Admittedly, most of the wildlife I've shot has
been bigger than most birds, but I never found a problem with composing in
the viewfinder. I would hazard a guess that any issue you have is more
psychological than real. With a hide you should be able to get very close to
the birds. At the bird sanctuaries I've been too, the hides and the birds
have been very close to each other. I notice that the most popular birding
binoculars are something like 8x45, which is not very big. The main issue
with them seems to be the need to focus closely, which also tells me
something about how close you can get to birds.

I recommend that you put these thoughts of cropping out of your mind, and,
as you suggest, practice. Get used to the new techniques you are using
first, before you expect world-shattering photographs, and accept that it
will take some time to get through the learning phase. 

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 10 April 2006 22:53
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. 
 
 Those of you reading the list lately may have noticed that I 
 have a project going on, that forces me to explore some new 
 land (read learn new techniques). 
 How a bp should you avoid noticing that? With my endless 
 ranting questions ;-)
 
 I have been talking about using longer lenses, building hides 
 and so on.
 This has been great fun, and I am learning a lot about 
 photography and birds. My longest glass that is usable is 
 500mm (with converter it tends to be too soft), so I have to 
 crop the pictures to make them interesting. 
 
 This has made me realise that I am a lot better at composing 
 in viewfinder then I am with composing on computer screen. I 
 have been thinking about this. I have some ideas about why. 
 
 First: 
 It is that in the field I compose more on instinct. I am 
 there, and I have emotions about the motifs. My heart is 
 involved, and I believe that it is my heart that makes the 
 composing decisions. Back at home, the motifs are more 
 distant to me, so there I compose by brain (and as you know, 
 that's not much of a brain).
 
 The second reason has to do with the decisive moment:
 When I shot slides my mind was in capture mode (sorry Shel, 
 I know you don't like that word). When pushing the button I 
 knew that what is in frame, stays in frame, and what is out 
 of frame, stays out. (Everybody who has tried masking slides 
 in glassless frames, knows that you do everything you can to 
 avoid that activity later). 
 
 Now, when shooting digitally, being forced to crop later 
 something happens with my mindset. There is no decisive 
 moment in post processing on computer.
 There is always possible to go back. 
 
 What I'm saying is that I think I need the decisive moment to 
 make a good composition. I also need to be emotionally 
 connected with the motif in some way. 
 
 But what do I do about this? Practise is one obvious answer. 
 And I will practise. But, I also have a strong belief in the 
 power and wisdom of this list. I would really surprise me if 
 it doesn't burp up some good ideas and advise. 
 
 
 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
  
 Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
 (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
 
 
 
 
 
 






Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Unca Mikey

Subject: Status of *ist 35mm?


Has anyone read or heard anything about the status or future of the Pentax 
*ist 35mm SLR?  It's still shown on the Pentax USA site, but is no longer 
in the catalog for BH or Adorama.  Amazon shows it as not in stock and 
some other sites show the model as discontinued. Is there any official 
word?  I emailed Pentax, but no answer yet.


I would be very surprised if Pentax is still making film SLR cameras. Film 
as a consumer commodity is pretty much a dead horse, the camera 
manufactureres aren't likely to continue making something that won't get 
bought.


William Robb 





Fw: Thomas Van Veen in Washington Post

2006-04-10 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Rubenstein, Bruce 
Subject: Thomas Van Veen in Washington Post



Bill,

I don't know if anyone on the PDML saw this but Thomas Van Veen was
mentioned in Sunday's Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR200604
0900883.html








Re: PESO - Signs of spring

2006-04-10 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton

Subject: PESO - Signs of spring





http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3094.htm


The foliage top left weakens the composition, it either needs to be in
focus, or gone.
The intrusion bottom left needs to go as well, but a swipe with the clone 
tool would cure that.


William Robb




Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
The *ist viewfinder is small and hard to manually focus with -
especially compared to the MZ-S or PZ-1p.  I have one (actually my
daughter's) and it is pretty poor from that perspective.  All else
about it is reasonable.  So using A series lenses on it is more
difficult.  She also has an MX - and that gets the nod whenever
possible because of the big difference in viewfinder.  She has become
a preferred manual focusser and so mostly shoots the MX.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, April 10, 2006, 3:00:33 PM, you wrote:

UM The only thing I've heard against the *ist is the crippled mount --
UM and since I don't have any of the older lenses, it's not a big deal
UM to me.  I thought about the MZ-S, but it doesn't work that well with
UM lenses without an aperture ring, and it's much bigger/heavier than I
UM would like.

UM I had a Spotmatic for 30+ years, but after about two years of using
UM the *ist, I must have a thumbwheel!  LOL.  I could never go back to
UM the old way of changing aperture and shutter speed, I am now addicted
UM to having aperture and exposure compensation and DOF and AE lock all
UM there at my thumb and forefinger.   I've tried manual focusing, but
UM the camera is so much faster and more accurate, I gave up and just
UM select the focus point instead.

UM Good luck with the primes, Scott -- I have the DA 40mm and the FA 
UM 50mm f1.7, and they work great with this body, very handy.

*UncaMikey

UM --- Scott Loveless wrote:
  For a while now I've been considering buying an MZ-S or PZ-1 to
  complement the *ist.



Some good news ...

2006-04-10 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

This stuff is always nice to read:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ele/149916894.html



Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net

He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose
-- Jim Elliott



Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Maas

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: Unca Mikey
Subject: Status of *ist 35mm?


Has anyone read or heard anything about the status or future of the 
Pentax *ist 35mm SLR?  It's still shown on the Pentax USA site, but 
is no longer in the catalog for BH or Adorama.  Amazon shows it as 
not in stock and some other sites show the model as discontinued. 
Is there any official word?  I emailed Pentax, but no answer yet.



I would be very surprised if Pentax is still making film SLR cameras. 
Film as a consumer commodity is pretty much a dead horse, the camera 
manufactureres aren't likely to continue making something that won't 
get bought.


William Robb



Agreed.

Likely the only 35mm cameras in actual production right now are coming 
from Cosina Voightlander and Leica. Film is now a niche product.


-Adam



Re: Status of *ist 35mm?

2006-04-10 Thread Adam Maas

Bruce Dayton wrote:


The *ist viewfinder is small and hard to manually focus with -
especially compared to the MZ-S or PZ-1p.  I have one (actually my
daughter's) and it is pretty poor from that perspective.  All else
about it is reasonable.  So using A series lenses on it is more
difficult.  She also has an MX - and that gets the nod whenever
possible because of the big difference in viewfinder.  She has become
a preferred manual focusser and so mostly shoots the MX.

 



It's unfortunate that they couldn't put a Viewfinder as nice as the 
*istD's in the *ist. I would have bought one when I had my D if the 
viewfinder hadn't been so unimpressive.


-Adam



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