RE: OT - The Ashes
I'm not quite sure whether you're insulting the Poms or the Kiwis. Baa... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Trevor Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day. The only way the Poms can beat the Kiwis is to throw an Ugg boot into the change room before the match. The Kiwis will be too buggered to play then. ;-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton. OZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2007 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - The Ashes On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Cotty wrote: I'm surprised at the lack of gloating here...and apprehensive at its arrival. So in a fit if pre-emptive strike rage, I'll start. What a shambles. I'm gutted. Don't worry, you've got the tri-nations coming up. Considering the current state of our match against Sri Lanka, your team would have to be in a pretty sad state if they don't beat NZ. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ NOD32 1959 (20070105) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Click to compare save $100's on medical insurance, free quote http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkon5vsvrFz1J97HxQAthuWsWx/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT - The Ashes
You mean there is a difference? Cum arty cum arty. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton. OZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2007 6:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: OT - The Ashes I'm not quite sure whether you're insulting the Poms or the Kiwis. Baa... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Trevor Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day. The only way the Poms can beat the Kiwis is to throw an Ugg boot into the change room before the match. The Kiwis will be too buggered to play then. ;-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton. OZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2007 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - The Ashes On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Cotty wrote: I'm surprised at the lack of gloating here...and apprehensive at its arrival. So in a fit if pre-emptive strike rage, I'll start. What a shambles. I'm gutted. Don't worry, you've got the tri-nations coming up. Considering the current state of our match against Sri Lanka, your team would have to be in a pretty sad state if they don't beat NZ. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ NOD32 1959 (20070105) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Click to compare save $100's on medical insurance, free quote http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkon5vsvrFz1J97HxQAthuWsWx/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ NOD32 1959 (20070105) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
On 06/01/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: You (Mac) guys are a hoot, my server RAID partitions are System, Data, Audio, Images. ;-) My drives are all named for places in Ursula Le Guin's novels: Werel, Hosk, Orkney, Koppish, Ifney, Atuan, Astowell, Hain, Kargad, Karego At ... Why should it be boring? One of the timeshare systems I used to work with at JPL years ago had servers/volumes all named for characters in Lord of the Rings. Boring? They are hard drive names. Using target data related names I find it easy to direct anyone else who uses my system to the target drive and told the label once they seem to remember. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - The Ashes
On 5/1/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: Gloating just isn't something that we Australians do... We are gracious in winning That the sound of hell freezing over? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and DA 50-200 and AF performance
Don't do that too often but... On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, John Francis wrote: After all, the FA* 80-200/f2.8 didn't cost that much. Mark! Kostas (buying three built-in electrical appliances and getting change instead) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Epson 3200 scan: Which Epson 3200 is this? The Perfection 3200 flatbed or the hapless F-3200 4x5 film scanner? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed Cheers, Dave On 1/6/07, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Epson 3200 scan: Which Epson 3200 is this? The Perfection 3200 flatbed or the hapless F-3200 4x5 film scanner? Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Gimme my fish
http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed I see. Had one of those for a few years and it took the introduction of the V700 to make me part with it. In the menatime I had tried the 4870, 4990, and the Canon 9900 (?) and the improvement was just too marginal. To make the 3200 really shine, use it with Vuescan and set number of samples to 8. You won't believe your eyes. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Cat's cameras
On Jan 6, 2007, at 12:03 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Beaker Subject: Re: OT: Cat's cameras I'm scared now- Got a sweet little orange kitten for Christmas called Tigger. Except when he transforms into the Orange Peril - an insane little chewing machine... A girl I worked with many years ago was quite a cat fancier. Apparently, some colour schemes of cats act differently from others. We had an orange tabby girl who was also a hellion. She was resopnsible for starting us on the road of home reno hell by destroying the living room walls. She actually shredded portions of the wallboard. William Robb I'm exagerating a little, but he does have two moods- sleepy, sweet Tigger, and the hyperactive Orange Peril. I think he will be more like Tigger when he outgrows kitten-hood. The Veternarian lives next door to my parents, and they had what looks like Tigger's older cousin. A 9 pound version of Morris the Cat. Beaker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Two palm trees
I would like it more if the man on the right corner was cut away and again the photo looks a bit blurred to me. But the trees are nice indeed Boris :-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:05 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Two palm trees http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Great moody composition and the two palm trees add a nice focal point. I agree with Marcus that it would be better if cropped a bit on the right to remove the 'half man'. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- -- Refinance and Save with QuickApply No credit checks. 30 second application. Saving 1% could equal $75,000 http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/MhtYWUi3nBgHWJ6dZOnp3lpBASfCiioBrNmR6/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS/FT: AF140C Ring Flash, FA50/1.4, A 35/2, A50/2.8 Macro, *Ist-DS and 16-45
Hi, I have for sale or trade: AF140C in excellent condition, with case and adapter rings - Price ?, not really sure how much these are worth, open to negotiation. FA 50mm F1.4, In pretty much as new condition - $190us (price based on ebay prices) A 35mm F2.0, In good condition - $180us A 50mm F2.8 Macro - Rough cosmetic condition, but optics ok - $120us *Ist DS, with box and all accessories and manuals, has a 2 year extended warranty valid in Australia 16-45mm F4.0 Lens - In excellent condition, with box and manuals - $280us If any of my prices are way off then let me know. A few things i'm after if anyone wants to trade are: AF360FGZ Flash, FA50/2.8 Macro and an A50/1.2 Thanks, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
I have a V700 and its quite good with xpan negs and 6x6, better than the 4870 we have at work. If Paul wants to send me a neg and i can scan it. Regards, Paul On 06/01/2007, at 5:36 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 06/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a pic I rescanned on my friend's Imacon. I treated it somewhat differently as well, both in terms of the crop and the rendering, but I still think there's a distinct difference. Note the detail in the background trtees. The imacon scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5416945size=lg The Epson 3200 scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2609820size=lg No surprise, but mildly interesting perhaps. Paul A good result and as you say, not surprising, I'd be keen to see where the Epson V700/750 fits in there. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - The Ashes
Well, we might as well gloat now because things are bound to change eventually. Actually, with so many of the current Australian team retiring, there's a spot for a good all-rounder. Wonder if Freddy might consider emigration?. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 5/1/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: Gloating just isn't something that we Australians do... We are gracious in winning That the sound of hell freezing over? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty -- Click to get 125% of your home's value, super fast, no lender fees http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkv4UVXZ7EpT0O2gHf1pQR8uHq/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
I think it's a nice shot of a harbor at dawn, but the title threw me. The palm trees seem incidental. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 1:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
It's the Perfection 3200 flatbed, which has served me very well. But perhaps not as well as I once thought :-). Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 5:11 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Epson 3200 scan: Which Epson 3200 is this? The Perfection 3200 flatbed or the hapless F-3200 4x5 film scanner? Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
Thanks Ralf. I'll try that. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 5:57 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Epson Perfection 3200 flatbed I see. Had one of those for a few years and it took the introduction of the V700 to make me part with it. In the menatime I had tried the 4870, 4990, and the Canon 9900 (?) and the improvement was just too marginal. To make the 3200 really shine, use it with Vuescan and set number of samples to 8. You won't believe your eyes. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
Yes, I'd like to see how the new Epson performs on this as well. I notice the Imacon was able to separate the green of the trees from the blue fog while the Epson 3200 was not. Perhaps I can find someone locally who owns the V700 or maybe a store will let me do a test scan. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 06/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a pic I rescanned on my friend's Imacon. I treated it somewhat differently as well, both in terms of the crop and the rendering, but I still think there's a distinct difference. Note the detail in the background trtees. The imacon scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5416945size=lg The Epson 3200 scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2609820size=lg No surprise, but mildly interesting perhaps. Paul A good result and as you say, not surprising, I'd be keen to see where the Epson V700/750 fits in there. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
Good one. I would crop it a little tighter at the top and clone out the black blobs. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Gimme my fish
I like this. But as Paul said, the ducks (or whatever it is) distracts. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 6. januar 2007 11:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Gimme my fish http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS/FT: AF140C Ring Flash, FA50/1.4, A 35/2, A50/2.8 Macro, *Ist-DS and 16-45
-- Original message -- From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have for sale or trade: AF140C in excellent condition, with case and adapter rings - Price ?, not really sure how much these are worth, open to negotiation. Paul, to give you a baseline, KEH has had a few in the $300-340 range. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS/FT: AF140C Ring Flash, FA50/1.4, A 35/2, A50/2.8 Macro, *Ist-DS and 16-45
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Reese) -- Original message -- From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have for sale or trade: AF140C in excellent condition, with case and adapter rings - Price ?, not really sure how much these are worth, open to negotiation. they've come down a little. KEH has three that are listed at $275, $286 and $265 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Two palm trees
For me, the two palms are misplaced in the composition. If they where a bit more to the right, it would have worked a lot better. I like the light, and the lazy waves in lower right corner, adds some life to the scene. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 6. januar 2007 07:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Two palm trees http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Lighting, especially with reflections, is very nice. I'd have to crop out the lower right boat transom and suck up the scene. Then moving slightly to the left and shooting back a little to the right to get more of a look at the transom line of the string of boats on the right. Maybe I'd hate the result.(??) Jack --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Introduction
Hello... Just wanted to introduce myself (again). I was once a subscriber to PDML back a few years when I was shooting film with my Pentax PZ20. Then I made the switch to digital (a Sony S85). I spent about 3 years or so with that. It is a good camera, but I wanted my SLR back. I enjoyed the immediate response I got with the digital, no more waiting for development, etc. I've been itching for a new DSLR for a while. I've been planning on how to get enough money to make the plunge. I looked at the *istD series, but price and timing weren't right. When Pentax introduced the K100D I finally saw my opportunity. It has what I need, not over the top, price in line, compatibility with my current lenses, shake reduction and a $50 rebate to boot. I did much searching online for the best price, read reviews, looked all over for images, read the archives on PDML, etc. I finally got things in order. I sold some stuff on the web, made the Christmas request for money instead of gifts (well received by all) and purchased the K100D kit from bestpriceaudiovideo (best price around as well as fast and free shipping). I'm back taking pictures for me again (as well as the obligatory family photos). I'm getting my bearings with an SLR again (ISO1600/3200 - wow I haven't seen those days in a while). I'm shooting mostly in *** JPG but have attempted some RAW processing. I'm still working the kinks out on what RAW gives me as well as how I am supposed to post process. I am using PS Elements 5 with the RAW plug-in for the K100D. Any help on work flow would be appreciated. As for my participation on the list, I'm mostly a lurker and will try and be involved when I can. I'll even try to post some PESO's every so often ;-) I am currently using Google's Picasa for web hosting my shots - does anyone have a better 'free' hosting site? How do you like Flickr? Suggestions are welcome. I have started a PAD with the new camera - not sure how long it will last (it might become PAW instead at some point). -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder
It must have been nice to have the father teaching you darkroom technoques, Bob :-) I didn't start until I got my first SLR in 1973. The Viscount (french for count or similar) is quite nice - a bit newer (1959-60) than the 35-series (1954) - according to Massimo Bertacchi. I am looking for a 35-V with a built.in meter and interchangeable leaf shutter lenses. I think four Coral lenses were made for this:1:3.5 /100mm, a 1:3.2/ 35mm and two 45mm lenses - 1:1.9 and 1:1.5. The V model was introduced in 1958 - almost 50 yeas ago. I guess the company went belly up in the early sixties. Unfortunately. The started making SLRs too late, I guess. I will be developing my first Aires film (Ilford FP4) shortly and hopefully be able to post som scans too :-) Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Bob Shell Sendt: 5. januar 2007 00:15 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Aires 35 rangefinder On Jan 4, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Thanks, Bob. I see. Mine has probably not seen much use. It still works perfectly after more than 50 years. Unfortunately there's no accumulating frame counter, so I can't check :-) Some of my very first photos were taken with an Aires Viscount rangefinder camera that my dad had when I was in my early teens. Once I learned to use the rangefinder I was snapping away at everything. He had a darkroom in our basement, so I learned to develop and print. I must have been 12 or 13 when I processed my first roll of film and made some prints. Fixer got in my veins that day and I was hooked for life. My dad moved on to Exakta and Leica, and he would occasionally let me use one of them. I don't know what became of his old Aires. I wish I had it today. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.6/617 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction
Welcome back, Ed. You're off to a good start with your gallery. Keep working at it. The dog pic is my favorite. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Ed Keeney wrote: Hello... Just wanted to introduce myself (again). I was once a subscriber to PDML back a few years when I was shooting film with my Pentax PZ20. Then I made the switch to digital (a Sony S85). I spent about 3 years or so with that. It is a good camera, but I wanted my SLR back. I enjoyed the immediate response I got with the digital, no more waiting for development, etc. I've been itching for a new DSLR for a while. I've been planning on how to get enough money to make the plunge. I looked at the *istD series, but price and timing weren't right. When Pentax introduced the K100D I finally saw my opportunity. It has what I need, not over the top, price in line, compatibility with my current lenses, shake reduction and a $50 rebate to boot. I did much searching online for the best price, read reviews, looked all over for images, read the archives on PDML, etc. I finally got things in order. I sold some stuff on the web, made the Christmas request for money instead of gifts (well received by all) and purchased the K100D kit from bestpriceaudiovideo (best price around as well as fast and free shipping). I'm back taking pictures for me again (as well as the obligatory family photos). I'm getting my bearings with an SLR again (ISO1600/3200 - wow I haven't seen those days in a while). I'm shooting mostly in *** JPG but have attempted some RAW processing. I'm still working the kinks out on what RAW gives me as well as how I am supposed to post process. I am using PS Elements 5 with the RAW plug-in for the K100D. Any help on work flow would be appreciated. As for my participation on the list, I'm mostly a lurker and will try and be involved when I can. I'll even try to post some PESO's every so often ;-) I am currently using Google's Picasa for web hosting my shots - does anyone have a better 'free' hosting site? How do you like Flickr? Suggestions are welcome. I have started a PAD with the new camera - not sure how long it will last (it might become PAW instead at some point). -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
DA 70 mm. on film cameras?
Hi all: I would like to know if someone has tried to use the DA 70 mm. 2.4 on a film SLR, and in that case, whether it covers the 35 mm. film frame or not, and if there is severe vignetting. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: temple view
Great book - just recently finished reading it for the second time. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Nice composition. Very dramatic. Excellent work. Lost Horizons to us westereners. http://picasaweb.google.com/nsjeyan/Road/photo#5016756202158631506 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
--- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be the PDML equivalent of a slow-news day when we resort to discussing the names of our hard drives. - Dave I was thinking the same thing. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 06/01/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for naming one of the drives after me:-). Paul My drives are bandit, jack, minnie and willie -- my dogs and kids, living and dead. Paul On Jan 5, 2007, at 11:10 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: When I got my new Mac I put 2 terabytes of storage in it. John, Paul, George and Ringo. Four 500G drives. I thought that would be a good start. -Brendan You (Mac) guys are a hoot, my server RAID partitions are System, Data, Audio, Images. ;-) Mac guys? My HP Laptop is Leannansidhe, the externals are Fast One and Image Tank. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - The Ashes
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/05 Fri PM 10:52:03 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - The Ashes I'm surprised at the lack of gloating here...and apprehensive at its arrival. So in a fit if pre-emptive strike rage, I'll start. What a shambles. I'm gutted. But not at all suprised. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Nicely ironic title. Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: temple view
The modern world intrudes again. SJ wrote: thanks paul. really appreciate that comment. regarding 'lost horizons', there is access to the Net available through a mobile phone right from that spot. :)) regards, subash On 1/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice composition. Very dramatic. Excellent work. Lost Horizons to us westereners. Paul On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:43 PM, SJ wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/nsjeyan/Road/photo#5016756202158631506 -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
On the only machine currently running the Primary Drive is drive two, and the Secondary drive is drive one... Altogether about 400 gig of storage. David Mann wrote: On Jan 6, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: You (Mac) guys are a hoot, my server RAID partitions are System, Data, Audio, Images. ;-) My two internal drives are Garfield (the name of the machine) and Work. The external drive is called Photo. It must be the PDML equivalent of a slow-news day when we resort to discussing the names of our hard drives. - Dave -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D gallery
Nice shots, Doug - great textures and lighting. - MCC Doug Brewer wrote: Hi Kids, Been goofing around with the K10D and thought I'd show a few examples. Nothing earth-shattering, just more evidence that I like captive subjects. Anyway: http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/ Enjoy, and one day I'll determine how to change the background color for the gallery page. Doug -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
Quite a noticeable difference - beautiful morning light behind the vehicles BTW. I use an Epson 3200 for my medium format scans. I'm not surprised at the difference - I found it to be iffy for high quality scans from slide film, but then slide film is the most demanding for scanning. I think the 3200 does a better job with negative film, especially BW. I did a head to head comparison of some 35mm BW frame between my Canoscan FS4000 and the Epson 3200, and found the difference to be negligible. I've also had several large (30 x 24) BW prints made from scans off the Epson that just scream with detail. Color negative film also scans well on the Epson - better than color transparency - but unfortunately my Epson has developed a problem with putting a blue line into every color scan at exactly the same place. Well, it's getting old. I keep watching for a good deal on a Nikon medium format scanner as a reasonable compromise between the flatbeds and the Imacons. It's really hard to sink a lot of money into a technology that's on the wane - I can see even my MF film days coming to a close. - MCC Paul Stenquist wrote: Here's a pic I rescanned on my friend's Imacon. I treated it somewhat differently as well, both in terms of the crop and the rendering, but I still think there's a distinct difference. Note the detail in the background trtees. The imacon scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5416945size=lg The Epson 3200 scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2609820size=lg No surprise, but mildly interesting perhaps. Paul -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
That's very good. Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D with AF540FGZ
Mark Roberts wrote: I agree. I found P-TTL to be vastly superior to TTL on digital. I'd tweak your sentence as follows: I found P-TTL to be vastly superior to TTL on the *istD. With the *istDS, the plain old TTL works very well, enough you can hardly find any difference. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - The Ashes
I think he got both. (I can only thank God that the US doesn't play Cricket). Brian Walters wrote: I'm not quite sure whether you're insulting the Poms or the Kiwis. Baa... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Trevor Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day. The only way the Poms can beat the Kiwis is to throw an Ugg boot into the change room before the match. The Kiwis will be too buggered to play then. ;-) Hooroo. Regards, Trevor. Grafton. OZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mann Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2007 4:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - The Ashes On Jan 6, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Cotty wrote: I'm surprised at the lack of gloating here...and apprehensive at its arrival. So in a fit if pre-emptive strike rage, I'll start. What a shambles. I'm gutted. Don't worry, you've got the tri-nations coming up. Considering the current state of our match against Sri Lanka, your team would have to be in a pretty sad state if they don't beat NZ. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ NOD32 1959 (20070105) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Click to compare save $100's on medical insurance, free quote http://tags.bluebottle.com/fc/CAaCMPJkon5vsvrFz1J97HxQAthuWsWx/ -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/06 Sat AM 07:40:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: How big is big enough? On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: You (Mac) guys are a hoot, my server RAID partitions are System, Data, Audio, Images. ;-) My drives are all named for places in Ursula Le Guin's novels: Werel, Hosk, Orkney, Koppish, Ifney, Atuan, Astowell, Hain, Kargad, Karego At ... Why should it be boring? One of the timeshare systems I used to work with at JPL years ago had servers/volumes all named for characters in Lord of the Rings. At the University of Sunderland, the servers used to be named after characters in Blake's Seven, a 1970s scifi TV programme. My account was on Orac. It's much more boring nowadays. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
I have 600GB (51% full), RAID 0 with 0 partitions, that I lovingly call C :-) Dave On 1/7/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the only machine currently running the Primary Drive is drive two, and the Secondary drive is drive one... Altogether about 400 gig of storage. David Mann wrote: On Jan 6, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: You (Mac) guys are a hoot, my server RAID partitions are System, Data, Audio, Images. ;-) My two internal drives are Garfield (the name of the machine) and Work. The external drive is called Photo. It must be the PDML equivalent of a slow-news day when we resort to discussing the names of our hard drives. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
These things don't eat fish. They are filter feeders and and subsist on very small animal life such as rotifers, small nematodes (1 mm long) water fleas and suchlike. D P. J. Alling wrote: That's very good. Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/06 Sat PM 04:48:28 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Gimme my fish These things don't eat fish. They are filter feeders and and subsist on very small animal life such as rotifers, small nematodes (1 mm long) water fleas and suchlike. D Just keep your beak out of others' business. [That's a suggestion for an alternative title..8-)] P. J. Alling wrote: That's very good. Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA ? Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
This is art (!), and as such creative licence is allowed :-) Also Gimme my Nematodes doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely. Boris, if it were mine I'd clone out the duck (?) and the reflections in the background. I find they distract from the main subjects. Cheers, Dave On 1/7/07, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These things don't eat fish. They are filter feeders and and subsist on very small animal life such as rotifers, small nematodes (1 mm long) water fleas and suchlike. http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
Who cares about the title in this case... mike wilson wrote: From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/06 Sat PM 04:48:28 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Gimme my fish These things don't eat fish. They are filter feeders and and subsist on very small animal life such as rotifers, small nematodes (1 mm long) water fleas and suchlike. D Just keep your beak out of others' business. [That's a suggestion for an alternative title..8-)] P. J. Alling wrote: That's very good. Boris Liberman wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA ? Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS Friday (A day late)
All prices in Canadian, plus shipping. I can only take money orders at the moment. Kit #1. K100D with less than 2000 shots on the clock. This is probably the best 6MP body on the market today, with in-body stabilization, the best viewfinder short of the D80 or K10D, excellent image quality, ISO 3200 and an 11 point AF unit that actually works decently in low light. Meters and does SR with anything you can mount on the front of it.$660 new at CameraCanada.com It also comes with: Pentax SMC-DA 16-45 f4 AL lens. Fixed f4, extremely sharp, full-time manual focus (Like USM lenses), hood (with removable cutout for adjusting polarizers), 24-70 equivalent, making it the widest general purpose zoom for digital cameras. Lens is like new. $377 new at CameraCanada.com SMC-A 70-210 f4. Classic and superb manual focus zoom. SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Sharp as all heck and handles well. Lens has cosmetic wear but mint glass. Approx $200 value. SMC-A 50mm f1.7. Sharpest Pentax 50, SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Flat field design, can do excellent macro work with the addition of extension tubes. Approx $100 value. Vivitar 300mm f5.6 K mount modified to a preset lens. Decent 300 prime, only meters correctly on the DSLR's as the aperture coupling and stop-down levers have been removed. Like all pre-A lenses it will work in Av and M modes on the K100D. Approx Value $25 (due to mods) Takumar-A 2x TC. Works with all K mount lenses, preserves metering and program modes with all A or later lenses, but not AF or focal length information. Approx $75 Value Remote Control F. IR remote for all Pentax cameras which support IR remotes(including All Pentax DSLR's). $25 value Henry's M42-Screwmount Adaptor. Preserves infinity focus, takes all M42 lenses. Works on Film and Digital K mount bodies. $25 value K mount-52mm reverse adaptor. Do macro with a reverse 50mm lens. Works nicely. meter couples with film bodies and works as a pre-A lens on digital. Approx value $5 49mm-52mm step-up ring. Allows standard pentax primes to mount on the reverse adaptor since most Pentax primes are 49mm filter size, not 52mm. Approx value $5 Chinon CP-6 Spot K mount film body. Just in case you want to try that wierd coated gelatin sensor. Program, aperture priority and manual modes with averaging and spot metering. Approx value $20, so I'm throwing it in. Also includes boxes for the K100D and 16-45, with all manuals and other items normally including in the box (Software, cables, accessories). K100D has almost-new Lithium AA's with less than 100 shots on them, good for another 600-800 or so. CP-6 has 3xAAA alkalines's which cannot be guaranteed (Can't remember how new they are). Kit cost to you: $1000. Kit #2 Pentax MZ-5n. Traditional interface on a good little AF body. Shutter speeds to 1/2000, 1/100 sync, 2fps winder, matrix, centre-weighted and spot metering. Traditional shutter speed dial, good viewfinder. Comes with: Kiron 28mm f2 K mount lens. Fast, sharp 28mm wide. SMC-F 35-80 f4-5.6 AF zoom. Kit lens. Not bad. SMC-A 50mm f2, classic Pentax 50, with full metering and exposure modes support on all Pentax K mount bodies. $250 for the lot. Kit #3. Pentax LX. Classic Pentax pro film SLR, form the class of 1980 (like the Nikon F3 and Canon New F1). 1/2000 shutter, 1/75 flash sync, TTL flash support (including a proper hotshoe unlike the F3). LED simulated match needle display, removable finder (standard DA-1 with adjustable diopter). Metering down to -6.5EV (128 seconds at ISO 100 and f1.4). Mechanical shutter for speeds over sync, electronic shutter at speeds below sync. TTL-OTF ambient metering in Aperture Priority mode with speeds below 1/75 sync (Yes, the camera will automatically adjust the exposure based on the actual amount of light hitting the film, for speeds between 1/60th and 128 seconds). Takes 2fps winder or 5fps motordrive (NOT included). Takes all K mount lenses except DA and FA-J lenses(which lack aperture rings). This body's seen some use. It's mechanically fine, but has wear, the leatherette is starting to peel and the film door latch is difficult to close. Since these bodies typically go for $400-600, I'm giving you a deal because of the door latch. SMC-M 50mm f2. The classic Pentax 50mm. $250. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Introduction (Raw work flow)
Welcome Ed. About raw word flow. I wrote an article describing my work flow http://www.photosight.org/pforum/showflat.php?Cat=Board=phototechnicalityN umber=322113page=0view=collapsedsb=5o=fpart=. So why not short version it to English? If you don't find it useful, somebody else might. I'm not an expert, but this is my take on the task: For me the main trick is to work systematically, one image parameter at the time. If I fiddle with too much at the same time I simply get lost. This work flow is efficient when you are going for a high contrast presentation. If you are going for something else you need to set the parameters differently, but do it in the same order. 1. Sorting and tagging the images. I start sorting, simply because it saves me work. No point in spending converting time on photos I'm going to throw away anyway. In Lightroom you can also tag and rate the photos. Very useful IMO. 2. White balance. Most raw converters have an eye drop function. Find a white or neutral grey area of the image, and click there. Done. If that does not do the trick you simply have to fiddle around until you get what you want. My experience is that it often helps to set tint to neutral first. When the WB looks ok, then it is time to play with tint. Playing with both at the same time can be very confusing. 3. Exposure, aka setting white point. Exposure is rh, exposure ;-) But it is also described as setting the white point, or setting upper clipping point. These two terms gives you a much better idea of what it is useful for. Keep an eye on the histogram while adjusting. You will see what it moves right when increasing exposure, left when decreasing. What you are looking for is the point where the histogram starts climbing at the right (when the whites starts clipping). When you want bright whites, back off just a tiny bit, if you want a medium key image, then back off a bit more. If you don't want details in highlights (high contrast), then don't back off, just leave it there. Most raw converters have a tool showing the clipping. With those I have tried you hold the Alt key, then the clipped areas is displayed. This is useful. After the clipping fields in the image are identified, I often do a fine tuning suiting my needs and my taste. At this stage, don't look if the image looks to dark or to light. You will adjust this later in the process. 4. Shadows, blacks, darks, aka setting lower clipping point. The procedure here is very similar to exposure. What you do here is setting lower clipping point. While adjusting shadows, the Alt key will display clipping in the lower. When the histogram starts climbing at left, stop. If you don't want details in the shadows (high contrast), just leave it there. But if you want to preserve details, you back off a bit here too. Now we are almost there. The rest is fine tuning. Very often I skip some of the next steps. 5. Brightness. At first sight the brightness controls the exposure. This is not true. Brightness has less effect on the extremes. Now it is time to decide if you want a medium key, a high key, or a low key result. I often leave brightness as it is. But it is useful to adjust the overall look of the photo. Moving right will make the photo look lighter, moving left will make it look darker. 6. Contrast. Contrast affects the impact off the photo. You have already done the basic contrast adjustments with exposure and shadows. But contrast control can be useful for fine tuning contrast. 7. Saturation. The adjustments you have done affect saturation. If you have increased contrast, you will experience increased saturation as a side effect. So, often you need to lower saturation in high contrast images. If you are Ken Rockwell, you like strong colours. Then you may have an urge to pump them even higher. By all means, do it. It will become a crappy image, but it is your decision ;-) This is the basic steps. In a basic raw converter there is not much else to do. Except doing the actual conversion off course ;-) One important thing to have in mind: Every adjustment affects the noise (especially in shadows area). Don't worry too much about it, but it is a good idea to have an eye on noise while adjusting. You will also experience that most adjustments are compromises. There is no such thing as the perfect setting for a parameter. - In more sophisticated converters you have several other tools available. - Recovery is for fine tuning highlights. If I use it, I usually do it after basic exposure tuning. - Fill light is one example, very useful in some situation, but don't overdo it. To much fill destroys colours. I often grab it if I'm not satisfied after step 7. - Serious converters also have curves adjustment. IMO it is much better doing it non destructive, before converting. - Often you can do sharpening and de-noise too. This can be useful for web sized presentations, but not in
Re: FS Friday (A day late)
Adam, where are you located ? 2007/1/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All prices in Canadian, plus shipping. I can only take money orders at the moment. Kit #1. K100D with less than 2000 shots on the clock. This is probably the best 6MP body on the market today, with in-body stabilization, the best viewfinder short of the D80 or K10D, excellent image quality, ISO 3200 and an 11 point AF unit that actually works decently in low light. Meters and does SR with anything you can mount on the front of it.$660 new at CameraCanada.com It also comes with: Pentax SMC-DA 16-45 f4 AL lens. Fixed f4, extremely sharp, full-time manual focus (Like USM lenses), hood (with removable cutout for adjusting polarizers), 24-70 equivalent, making it the widest general purpose zoom for digital cameras. Lens is like new. $377 new at CameraCanada.com SMC-A 70-210 f4. Classic and superb manual focus zoom. SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Sharp as all heck and handles well. Lens has cosmetic wear but mint glass. Approx $200 value. SMC-A 50mm f1.7. Sharpest Pentax 50, SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Flat field design, can do excellent macro work with the addition of extension tubes. Approx $100 value. Vivitar 300mm f5.6 K mount modified to a preset lens. Decent 300 prime, only meters correctly on the DSLR's as the aperture coupling and stop-down levers have been removed. Like all pre-A lenses it will work in Av and M modes on the K100D. Approx Value $25 (due to mods) Takumar-A 2x TC. Works with all K mount lenses, preserves metering and program modes with all A or later lenses, but not AF or focal length information. Approx $75 Value Remote Control F. IR remote for all Pentax cameras which support IR remotes(including All Pentax DSLR's). $25 value Henry's M42-Screwmount Adaptor. Preserves infinity focus, takes all M42 lenses. Works on Film and Digital K mount bodies. $25 value K mount-52mm reverse adaptor. Do macro with a reverse 50mm lens. Works nicely. meter couples with film bodies and works as a pre-A lens on digital. Approx value $5 49mm-52mm step-up ring. Allows standard pentax primes to mount on the reverse adaptor since most Pentax primes are 49mm filter size, not 52mm. Approx value $5 Chinon CP-6 Spot K mount film body. Just in case you want to try that wierd coated gelatin sensor. Program, aperture priority and manual modes with averaging and spot metering. Approx value $20, so I'm throwing it in. Also includes boxes for the K100D and 16-45, with all manuals and other items normally including in the box (Software, cables, accessories). K100D has almost-new Lithium AA's with less than 100 shots on them, good for another 600-800 or so. CP-6 has 3xAAA alkalines's which cannot be guaranteed (Can't remember how new they are). Kit cost to you: $1000. Kit #2 Pentax MZ-5n. Traditional interface on a good little AF body. Shutter speeds to 1/2000, 1/100 sync, 2fps winder, matrix, centre-weighted and spot metering. Traditional shutter speed dial, good viewfinder. Comes with: Kiron 28mm f2 K mount lens. Fast, sharp 28mm wide. SMC-F 35-80 f4-5.6 AF zoom. Kit lens. Not bad. SMC-A 50mm f2, classic Pentax 50, with full metering and exposure modes support on all Pentax K mount bodies. $250 for the lot. Kit #3. Pentax LX. Classic Pentax pro film SLR, form the class of 1980 (like the Nikon F3 and Canon New F1). 1/2000 shutter, 1/75 flash sync, TTL flash support (including a proper hotshoe unlike the F3). LED simulated match needle display, removable finder (standard DA-1 with adjustable diopter). Metering down to -6.5EV (128 seconds at ISO 100 and f1.4). Mechanical shutter for speeds over sync, electronic shutter at speeds below sync. TTL-OTF ambient metering in Aperture Priority mode with speeds below 1/75 sync (Yes, the camera will automatically adjust the exposure based on the actual amount of light hitting the film, for speeds between 1/60th and 128 seconds). Takes 2fps winder or 5fps motordrive (NOT included). Takes all K mount lenses except DA and FA-J lenses(which lack aperture rings). This body's seen some use. It's mechanically fine, but has wear, the leatherette is starting to peel and the film door latch is difficult to close. Since these bodies typically go for $400-600, I'm giving you a deal because of the door latch. SMC-M 50mm f2. The classic Pentax 50mm. $250. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
On 1/6/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 600GB (51% full), RAID 0 with 0 partitions, that I lovingly call C :-) Ah, the wonders of raid 0. My first and only SCSI system included a matched pair of Seagate drives. It booted Redhat 7pointsomething. One fine day a drive wouldn't post. Of course, it was nothing a low level format wouldn't fix. :-S. I found out a few weeks later, after abandoning raid 0, that a bit of mechanical agitation was all that was needed to get the drive going again (a swift kick to the side of the case). I now have three partitions on a single disk: /boot, /root, and /. The DOS boxes have C: and D:. Life is simple. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS Friday (A day late)
Toronto, Canada Postal code is M6C 3L9 -Adam Thibouille wrote: Adam, where are you located ? 2007/1/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All prices in Canadian, plus shipping. I can only take money orders at the moment. Kit #1. K100D with less than 2000 shots on the clock. This is probably the best 6MP body on the market today, with in-body stabilization, the best viewfinder short of the D80 or K10D, excellent image quality, ISO 3200 and an 11 point AF unit that actually works decently in low light. Meters and does SR with anything you can mount on the front of it.$660 new at CameraCanada.com It also comes with: Pentax SMC-DA 16-45 f4 AL lens. Fixed f4, extremely sharp, full-time manual focus (Like USM lenses), hood (with removable cutout for adjusting polarizers), 24-70 equivalent, making it the widest general purpose zoom for digital cameras. Lens is like new. $377 new at CameraCanada.com SMC-A 70-210 f4. Classic and superb manual focus zoom. SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Sharp as all heck and handles well. Lens has cosmetic wear but mint glass. Approx $200 value. SMC-A 50mm f1.7. Sharpest Pentax 50, SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Flat field design, can do excellent macro work with the addition of extension tubes. Approx $100 value. Vivitar 300mm f5.6 K mount modified to a preset lens. Decent 300 prime, only meters correctly on the DSLR's as the aperture coupling and stop-down levers have been removed. Like all pre-A lenses it will work in Av and M modes on the K100D. Approx Value $25 (due to mods) Takumar-A 2x TC. Works with all K mount lenses, preserves metering and program modes with all A or later lenses, but not AF or focal length information. Approx $75 Value Remote Control F. IR remote for all Pentax cameras which support IR remotes(including All Pentax DSLR's). $25 value Henry's M42-Screwmount Adaptor. Preserves infinity focus, takes all M42 lenses. Works on Film and Digital K mount bodies. $25 value K mount-52mm reverse adaptor. Do macro with a reverse 50mm lens. Works nicely. meter couples with film bodies and works as a pre-A lens on digital. Approx value $5 49mm-52mm step-up ring. Allows standard pentax primes to mount on the reverse adaptor since most Pentax primes are 49mm filter size, not 52mm. Approx value $5 Chinon CP-6 Spot K mount film body. Just in case you want to try that wierd coated gelatin sensor. Program, aperture priority and manual modes with averaging and spot metering. Approx value $20, so I'm throwing it in. Also includes boxes for the K100D and 16-45, with all manuals and other items normally including in the box (Software, cables, accessories). K100D has almost-new Lithium AA's with less than 100 shots on them, good for another 600-800 or so. CP-6 has 3xAAA alkalines's which cannot be guaranteed (Can't remember how new they are). Kit cost to you: $1000. Kit #2 Pentax MZ-5n. Traditional interface on a good little AF body. Shutter speeds to 1/2000, 1/100 sync, 2fps winder, matrix, centre-weighted and spot metering. Traditional shutter speed dial, good viewfinder. Comes with: Kiron 28mm f2 K mount lens. Fast, sharp 28mm wide. SMC-F 35-80 f4-5.6 AF zoom. Kit lens. Not bad. SMC-A 50mm f2, classic Pentax 50, with full metering and exposure modes support on all Pentax K mount bodies. $250 for the lot. Kit #3. Pentax LX. Classic Pentax pro film SLR, form the class of 1980 (like the Nikon F3 and Canon New F1). 1/2000 shutter, 1/75 flash sync, TTL flash support (including a proper hotshoe unlike the F3). LED simulated match needle display, removable finder (standard DA-1 with adjustable diopter). Metering down to -6.5EV (128 seconds at ISO 100 and f1.4). Mechanical shutter for speeds over sync, electronic shutter at speeds below sync. TTL-OTF ambient metering in Aperture Priority mode with speeds below 1/75 sync (Yes, the camera will automatically adjust the exposure based on the actual amount of light hitting the film, for speeds between 1/60th and 128 seconds). Takes 2fps winder or 5fps motordrive (NOT included). Takes all K mount lenses except DA and FA-J lenses(which lack aperture rings). This body's seen some use. It's mechanically fine, but has wear, the leatherette is starting to peel and the film door latch is difficult to close. Since these bodies typically go for $400-600, I'm giving you a deal because of the door latch. SMC-M 50mm f2. The classic Pentax 50mm. $250. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - City Night
I agree with Tom's view of this image. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PESO - City Night I like water reflections shots... I would like this too, except what's the two blackish blobs around the center of the frame? They seem incongruous. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - City Night Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:41:30 - I like that. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 05 January 2007 22:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - City Night http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=281748 *istD, FA50mm, 1:1.4, 1/15 hand held. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: How big is big enough?
On Jan 5, 2007, at 7:48 PM, George Sinos wrote: In the last four years I've managed to fill 300 Mbyte drive. A terabyte is a bit over three times that big. I talked to one of the pros in town and he said he's adding about a terabyte a month to his disk farm. At the moment I have five 300 GB drives and an getting tight on space again. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Introduction (Raw work flow)
So why not short version it to English? This is what happens when speed editing ;-) Simply forget that sentence, it is unimportant. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: 6. januar 2007 18:46 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Introduction (Raw work flow) Welcome Ed. About raw word flow. I wrote an article describing my work flow http://www.photosight.org/pforum/showflat.php?Cat=Board=phototechnicalityN umber=322113page=0view=collapsedsb=5o=fpart=. So why not short version it to English? If you don't find it useful, somebody else might. I'm not an expert, but this is my take on the task: For me the main trick is to work systematically, one image parameter at the time. If I fiddle with too much at the same time I simply get lost. This work flow is efficient when you are going for a high contrast presentation. If you are going for something else you need to set the parameters differently, but do it in the same order. 1. Sorting and tagging the images. I start sorting, simply because it saves me work. No point in spending converting time on photos I'm going to throw away anyway. In Lightroom you can also tag and rate the photos. Very useful IMO. 2. White balance. Most raw converters have an eye drop function. Find a white or neutral grey area of the image, and click there. Done. If that does not do the trick you simply have to fiddle around until you get what you want. My experience is that it often helps to set tint to neutral first. When the WB looks ok, then it is time to play with tint. Playing with both at the same time can be very confusing. 3. Exposure, aka setting white point. Exposure is rh, exposure ;-) But it is also described as setting the white point, or setting upper clipping point. These two terms gives you a much better idea of what it is useful for. Keep an eye on the histogram while adjusting. You will see what it moves right when increasing exposure, left when decreasing. What you are looking for is the point where the histogram starts climbing at the right (when the whites starts clipping). When you want bright whites, back off just a tiny bit, if you want a medium key image, then back off a bit more. If you don't want details in highlights (high contrast), then don't back off, just leave it there. Most raw converters have a tool showing the clipping. With those I have tried you hold the Alt key, then the clipped areas is displayed. This is useful. After the clipping fields in the image are identified, I often do a fine tuning suiting my needs and my taste. At this stage, don't look if the image looks to dark or to light. You will adjust this later in the process. 4. Shadows, blacks, darks, aka setting lower clipping point. The procedure here is very similar to exposure. What you do here is setting lower clipping point. While adjusting shadows, the Alt key will display clipping in the lower. When the histogram starts climbing at left, stop. If you don't want details in the shadows (high contrast), just leave it there. But if you want to preserve details, you back off a bit here too. Now we are almost there. The rest is fine tuning. Very often I skip some of the next steps. 5. Brightness. At first sight the brightness controls the exposure. This is not true. Brightness has less effect on the extremes. Now it is time to decide if you want a medium key, a high key, or a low key result. I often leave brightness as it is. But it is useful to adjust the overall look of the photo. Moving right will make the photo look lighter, moving left will make it look darker. 6. Contrast. Contrast affects the impact off the photo. You have already done the basic contrast adjustments with exposure and shadows. But contrast control can be useful for fine tuning contrast. 7. Saturation. The adjustments you have done affect saturation. If you have increased contrast, you will experience increased saturation as a side effect. So, often you need to lower saturation in high contrast images. If you are Ken Rockwell, you like strong colours. Then you may have an urge to pump them even higher. By all means, do it. It will become a crappy image, but it is your decision ;-) This is the basic steps. In a basic raw converter there is not much else to do. Except doing the actual conversion off course ;-) One important thing to have in mind: Every adjustment affects the noise (especially in shadows area). Don't worry too much about it, but it is a good idea to have an eye on noise while adjusting. You will also experience that most adjustments are compromises. There is no such thing as the perfect setting for a parameter. - In more sophisticated converters you have several other tools available. - Recovery is for fine tuning highlights. If I use it, I usually do it after basic exposure tuning. - Fill
Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated
On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:50 PM, David Savage wrote: But then you get people who'll break off a face to face conversation, to answer the phone. That really pi55es me off. I won't put up with a salesclerk who does that. I politely tell him/ her to put the caller on hold until we finish. If he/she doesn't do that, I take my business elsewhere. When I worked in retail years ago we were taught that the customer in front of us always had precedence over someone on the phone. Somehow that seems to have gone by the wayside. I go days without even turning my mobile on. I don't even have one. I am totally intolerant of people who use them in inappropriate places. I've had people behind me in movie theaters answer their phones in the middle of a film and begin a conversation. A few days ago I was in a nice quiet restaurant intending to have a meal and listen to the music they were playing. Somebody in the next booth started making calls and talking to whoever he was calling very loudly. I had the waiter move us to another place since he would not shut up when asked. I think cell phone use in theaters, restaurants, and many other places should simply be banned since people are too damned stupid to know when it isn't appropriate. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
I'm somewhat amazed at the difference in the background trees yet the subject cars don't appear different to me. I'd really like to see the Imacon compared to the large format Nikon scanner Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Imacon vs. Epson 3200 Here's a pic I rescanned on my friend's Imacon. I treated it somewhat differently as well, both in terms of the crop and the rendering, but I still think there's a distinct difference. Note the detail in the background trtees. The imacon scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5416945size=lg The Epson 3200 scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2609820size=lg No surprise, but mildly interesting perhaps. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Since you've titled this Two Palm trees, I'd have to say that the lines of boats are a distraction. It would be a stronger image with less foreground less showing of boats on the RH side. YMMV. Trying not to be brutal but honest. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Two palm trees http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
Nice capture Boris. If it were mine, I'd get rid of the black edge along the top the black bird above the LH Flamingo. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Gimme my fish http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated
On 1/06/07 1:31 PM, Bob Shell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think cell phone use in theaters, restaurants, and many other places should simply be banned since people are too damned stupid to know when it isn't appropriate. They are not only rude and unsophisticated, but have nerve to do so. Just lack of proper education (not necessarily an academic one) and commonsense. They are usually incurable. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction
Welcome. BTW, Don't believe anything Paul Stenquist, William Robb, Mark Roberts, Frank Theriault, or Jostein say. :-) Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Introduction Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:03:52 -0500 Welcome back, Ed. You're off to a good start with your gallery. Keep working at it. The dog pic is my favorite. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Ed Keeney wrote: Hello... Just wanted to introduce myself (again). I was once a subscriber to PDML back a few years when I was shooting film with my Pentax PZ20. Then I made the switch to digital (a Sony S85). I spent about 3 years or so with that. It is a good camera, but I wanted my SLR back. I enjoyed the immediate response I got with the digital, no more waiting for development, etc. I've been itching for a new DSLR for a while. I've been planning on how to get enough money to make the plunge. I looked at the *istD series, but price and timing weren't right. When Pentax introduced the K100D I finally saw my opportunity. It has what I need, not over the top, price in line, compatibility with my current lenses, shake reduction and a $50 rebate to boot. I did much searching online for the best price, read reviews, looked all over for images, read the archives on PDML, etc. I finally got things in order. I sold some stuff on the web, made the Christmas request for money instead of gifts (well received by all) and purchased the K100D kit from bestpriceaudiovideo (best price around as well as fast and free shipping). I'm back taking pictures for me again (as well as the obligatory family photos). I'm getting my bearings with an SLR again (ISO1600/3200 - wow I haven't seen those days in a while). I'm shooting mostly in *** JPG but have attempted some RAW processing. I'm still working the kinks out on what RAW gives me as well as how I am supposed to post process. I am using PS Elements 5 with the RAW plug-in for the K100D. Any help on work flow would be appreciated. As for my participation on the list, I'm mostly a lurker and will try and be involved when I can. I'll even try to post some PESO's every so often ;-) I am currently using Google's Picasa for web hosting my shots - does anyone have a better 'free' hosting site? How do you like Flickr? Suggestions are welcome. I have started a PAD with the new camera - not sure how long it will last (it might become PAW instead at some point). -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Imacon vs. Epson 3200
Yes, the cars are very similar, although there's some better detail in the grille and badges on the Imacon scan. The real different seems to be in color gradation. The Imacon distinguished the green of the trees from the blue of the fog much more accurately than the Epson. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'm somewhat amazed at the difference in the background trees yet the subject cars don't appear different to me. I'd really like to see the Imacon compared to the large format Nikon scanner Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Imacon vs. Epson 3200 Here's a pic I rescanned on my friend's Imacon. I treated it somewhat differently as well, both in terms of the crop and the rendering, but I still think there's a distinct difference. Note the detail in the background trtees. The imacon scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5416945size=lg The Epson 3200 scan: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2609820size=lg No surprise, but mildly interesting perhaps. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - City Night
I realize after looking at it, that the blobs are two people. However, they don't strike me as that at first, just two oof blobs. I think the shot would be better without them, but if people are there, in focus silohouettes woud be best. Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - City Night Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 13:17:57 -0500 I agree with Tom's view of this image. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PESO - City Night I like water reflections shots... I would like this too, except what's the two blackish blobs around the center of the frame? They seem incongruous. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - City Night Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:41:30 - I like that. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 05 January 2007 22:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - City Night http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=281748 *istD, FA50mm, 1:1.4, 1/15 hand held. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated
On Jan 6, 2007, at 1:56 PM, K.Takeshita wrote: I think cell phone use in theaters, restaurants, and many other places should simply be banned since people are too damned stupid to know when it isn't appropriate. They are not only rude and unsophisticated, but have nerve to do so. Just lack of proper education (not necessarily an academic one) and commonsense. They are usually incurable. Agreed. I saw on TV that they have the technology now to disable cell phones inside of buildings, and that it was being used in some French movie theaters. Now that's technology that makes sense. The only good side of this is that people who have mental disorders and talk to themselves only have to hold a cell phone to their ear to be ignored in most places. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
mike wilson wrote: Just keep your beak out of others' business. [That's a suggestion for an alternative title..8-)] This one just occurred to me: Mind your own beak-sness ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
Paul Paul Stenquist wrote: Good one. I would crop it a little tighter at the top and clone out the black blobs. Paul I should say that I cropped out some more ducks from the top and deliberately left at least one of them in order to give some kind of perspective in the shot. I am fascinated by your, Tim's, and others' opinion about this duck... Thanks! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
mike wilson wrote: Just keep your beak out of others' business. [That's a suggestion for an alternative title..8-)] Thanks. That's rather cool suggestion. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction
Ed, Welcome back. I started digital with a Sony S75-85 in tandem with film. About 18 months ago, I went for a *ist Ds and NO MORE Shutter Lag. I'm sure you'll be happy with it. I took Picasa up on their offer and haven't looked back. The uploading is so much easier than AOL. I post the less detailed image quality which shares well and isn't worth stealing IMHO. Regards, Bob S, On 1/6/07, Ed Keeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello... Just wanted to introduce myself (again). I was once a subscriber to PDML back a few years when I was shooting film with my Pentax PZ20. Then I made the switch to digital (a Sony S85). I spent about 3 years or so with that. It is a good camera, but I wanted my SLR back. I enjoyed the immediate response I got with the digital, no more waiting for development, etc. I've been itching for a new DSLR for a while. I've been planning on how to get enough money to make the plunge. I looked at the *istD series, but price and timing weren't right. When Pentax introduced the K100D I finally saw my opportunity. It has what I need, not over the top, price in line, compatibility with my current lenses, shake reduction and a $50 rebate to boot. I did much searching online for the best price, read reviews, looked all over for images, read the archives on PDML, etc. I finally got things in order. I sold some stuff on the web, made the Christmas request for money instead of gifts (well received by all) and purchased the K100D kit from bestpriceaudiovideo (best price around as well as fast and free shipping). I'm back taking pictures for me again (as well as the obligatory family photos). I'm getting my bearings with an SLR again (ISO1600/3200 - wow I haven't seen those days in a while). I'm shooting mostly in *** JPG but have attempted some RAW processing. I'm still working the kinks out on what RAW gives me as well as how I am supposed to post process. I am using PS Elements 5 with the RAW plug-in for the K100D. Any help on work flow would be appreciated. As for my participation on the list, I'm mostly a lurker and will try and be involved when I can. I'll even try to post some PESO's every so often ;-) I am currently using Google's Picasa for web hosting my shots - does anyone have a better 'free' hosting site? How do you like Flickr? Suggestions are welcome. I have started a PAD with the new camera - not sure how long it will last (it might become PAW instead at some point). -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Hi! Markus Maurer wrote: I would like it more if the man on the right corner was cut away and again the photo looks a bit blurred to me. But the trees are nice indeed Boris :-) greetings Markus Markus, I did not notice the man until I read your message ;-). As for the blur, indeed, this one is also among the shots I made with SR on. I think that on wider FLs the SR can indeed add some blurring instead of actually making it sharper. Thanks for your comments. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Hi! Tim Øsleby wrote: For me, the two palms are misplaced in the composition. If they where a bit more to the right, it would have worked a lot better. I like the light, and the lazy waves in lower right corner, adds some life to the scene. Tim, I rather dislike it when composition is 100% by the book. It makes the shot more like an academic exercise rather than something alive. I see what you're saying but this time I have to say that I stand by my framing. I do agree about the half-man on the right. I hope you don't mind my honest and brutal response to your comment ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Is returning a phone message really that complicated
Bob Shell wrote: Agreed. I saw on TV that they have the technology now to disable cell phones inside of buildings, and that it was being used in some French movie theaters. Now that's technology that makes sense. The only good side of this is that people who have mental disorders and talk to themselves only have to hold a cell phone to their ear to be ignored in most places. Simple Faraday Cage (or Mesh, whatever is the right term) built in the building walls would do just fine, I think. I totally agree with this sentiment. I should say that having smart phone I often would not really switch it off, but rather turn it to so called flight mode when all functions except the cell radio are active. It would make sense, I think, if all cell phones, not necessarily those that also have PDA functionality would have this kind of feature. Just my cents. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Jack Davis wrote: Lighting, especially with reflections, is very nice. I'd have to crop out the lower right boat transom and suck up the scene. Then moving slightly to the left and shooting back a little to the right to get more of a look at the transom line of the string of boats on the right. Maybe I'd hate the result.(??) Jack, what does it mean transom? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Kenneth Waller wrote: Since you've titled this Two Palm trees, I'd have to say that the lines of boats are a distraction. It would be a stronger image with less foreground less showing of boats on the RH side. YMMV. Trying not to be brutal but honest. Thanks! That's what I am always asking for. Thus, great many thanks to you and everyone else who commented and/or took their time to look at this picture. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I think that on wider FLs the SR can indeed add some blurring instead of actually making it sharper. I have found exactly the opposite to be the case. SR improves sharpness for any handheld shot of moderate shutter speed. (less than 1.90th or so) Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Two palm trees
I take this as a declaration of war ;-) Boris, you are in your right to disagree. In fact I expected you to, because if you didn't, you would probably not have posted the image. BTW. I think Kenneth said the same as I did, but said it better. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 6. januar 2007 20:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Two palm trees Hi! Tim Øsleby wrote: For me, the two palms are misplaced in the composition. If they where a bit more to the right, it would have worked a lot better. I like the light, and the lazy waves in lower right corner, adds some life to the scene. Tim, I rather dislike it when composition is 100% by the book. It makes the shot more like an academic exercise rather than something alive. I see what you're saying but this time I have to say that I stand by my framing. I do agree about the half-man on the right. I hope you don't mind my honest and brutal response to your comment ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction
And keep in mind that Tom suffers from frequent bouts of PMS:-)). Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Tom C wrote: Welcome. BTW, Don't believe anything Paul Stenquist, William Robb, Mark Roberts, Frank Theriault, or Jostein say. :-) Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Introduction Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:03:52 -0500 Welcome back, Ed. You're off to a good start with your gallery. Keep working at it. The dog pic is my favorite. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Ed Keeney wrote: Hello... Just wanted to introduce myself (again). I was once a subscriber to PDML back a few years when I was shooting film with my Pentax PZ20. Then I made the switch to digital (a Sony S85). I spent about 3 years or so with that. It is a good camera, but I wanted my SLR back. I enjoyed the immediate response I got with the digital, no more waiting for development, etc. I've been itching for a new DSLR for a while. I've been planning on how to get enough money to make the plunge. I looked at the *istD series, but price and timing weren't right. When Pentax introduced the K100D I finally saw my opportunity. It has what I need, not over the top, price in line, compatibility with my current lenses, shake reduction and a $50 rebate to boot. I did much searching online for the best price, read reviews, looked all over for images, read the archives on PDML, etc. I finally got things in order. I sold some stuff on the web, made the Christmas request for money instead of gifts (well received by all) and purchased the K100D kit from bestpriceaudiovideo (best price around as well as fast and free shipping). I'm back taking pictures for me again (as well as the obligatory family photos). I'm getting my bearings with an SLR again (ISO1600/3200 - wow I haven't seen those days in a while). I'm shooting mostly in *** JPG but have attempted some RAW processing. I'm still working the kinks out on what RAW gives me as well as how I am supposed to post process. I am using PS Elements 5 with the RAW plug-in for the K100D. Any help on work flow would be appreciated. As for my participation on the list, I'm mostly a lurker and will try and be involved when I can. I'll even try to post some PESO's every so often ;-) I am currently using Google's Picasa for web hosting my shots - does anyone have a better 'free' hosting site? How do you like Flickr? Suggestions are welcome. I have started a PAD with the new camera - not sure how long it will last (it might become PAW instead at some point). -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction
On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Tom C wrote: Welcome. BTW, Don't believe anything Paul Stenquist, William Robb, Mark Roberts, Frank Theriault, or Jostein say. :-) Seems like one usual suspect is missing. Can't remember who :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Two palm trees
I disagree. When I first looked at the picture my eye was drawn straight to the palm trees. I think it's a very well composed photograph, and a good example of how a small element, well placed, can dominate the picture. The control over the exposure is very good too - I think Boris has taken full advantage of the light to produce a good photo. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waller Sent: 06 January 2007 18:41 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Two palm trees Since you've titled this Two Palm trees, I'd have to say that the lines of boats are a distraction. It would be a stronger image with less foreground less showing of boats on the RH side. YMMV. Trying not to be brutal but honest. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Two palm trees http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Introduction
Pentax Mental Syndrom? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 6. januar 2007 20:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Introduction And keep in mind that Tom suffers from frequent bouts of PMS:-)). Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Tom C wrote: Welcome. BTW, Don't believe anything Paul Stenquist, William Robb, Mark Roberts, Frank Theriault, or Jostein say. :-) Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Introduction Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:03:52 -0500 Welcome back, Ed. You're off to a good start with your gallery. Keep working at it. The dog pic is my favorite. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Ed Keeney wrote: Hello... Just wanted to introduce myself (again). I was once a subscriber to PDML back a few years when I was shooting film with my Pentax PZ20. Then I made the switch to digital (a Sony S85). I spent about 3 years or so with that. It is a good camera, but I wanted my SLR back. I enjoyed the immediate response I got with the digital, no more waiting for development, etc. I've been itching for a new DSLR for a while. I've been planning on how to get enough money to make the plunge. I looked at the *istD series, but price and timing weren't right. When Pentax introduced the K100D I finally saw my opportunity. It has what I need, not over the top, price in line, compatibility with my current lenses, shake reduction and a $50 rebate to boot. I did much searching online for the best price, read reviews, looked all over for images, read the archives on PDML, etc. I finally got things in order. I sold some stuff on the web, made the Christmas request for money instead of gifts (well received by all) and purchased the K100D kit from bestpriceaudiovideo (best price around as well as fast and free shipping). I'm back taking pictures for me again (as well as the obligatory family photos). I'm getting my bearings with an SLR again (ISO1600/3200 - wow I haven't seen those days in a while). I'm shooting mostly in *** JPG but have attempted some RAW processing. I'm still working the kinks out on what RAW gives me as well as how I am supposed to post process. I am using PS Elements 5 with the RAW plug-in for the K100D. Any help on work flow would be appreciated. As for my participation on the list, I'm mostly a lurker and will try and be involved when I can. I'll even try to post some PESO's every so often ;-) I am currently using Google's Picasa for web hosting my shots - does anyone have a better 'free' hosting site? How do you like Flickr? Suggestions are welcome. I have started a PAD with the new camera - not sure how long it will last (it might become PAW instead at some point). -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Two palm trees
This photo is from the same shoot as the other slightly blurred one, isn't it? BTW I'm not bothered by this, I'm just curious. Perhaps this tells us something? Why this moment of light theraultianism? Could your SR be malfunctioning in some situations? If so, why? (A lot of questions, no answers) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 6. januar 2007 20:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Two palm trees On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I think that on wider FLs the SR can indeed add some blurring instead of actually making it sharper. I have found exactly the opposite to be the case. SR improves sharpness for any handheld shot of moderate shutter speed. (less than 1.90th or so) Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Introduction (Raw work flow)
Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you are Ken Rockwell, you like strong colours. I'm not, thank God Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction
I have replaced Cotty in the unreliable list:-). Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:10 PM, K.Takeshita wrote: On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Tom C wrote: Welcome. BTW, Don't believe anything Paul Stenquist, William Robb, Mark Roberts, Frank Theriault, or Jostein say. :-) Seems like one usual suspect is missing. Can't remember who :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
Nothing unusual about removing distracting elements. The ducks at top come across as black blobs. They don't contribute, they distract. Therefore, I would remove them. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Paul Paul Stenquist wrote: Good one. I would crop it a little tighter at the top and clone out the black blobs. Paul I should say that I cropped out some more ducks from the top and deliberately left at least one of them in order to give some kind of perspective in the shot. I am fascinated by your, Tim's, and others' opinion about this duck... Thanks! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
I don't think there is hardware involved ither the hardware already in the camera. The manufacturer probably just choose or not to provide that option. They deactivated this possibility in final 1.0 fimware and *might* enable it later. 2007/1/6, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
The CCD has one sensitivity level. In the case of the K10D, that base ISO is 100. Any change from 100 is done in firmware/software through signal and image enhancement (?) or degradation (?). Within a narrow range, the process works well. Not too different from pushing film during the development process as far as you dare, then adjusting for the still-too-thin negative during the printing process. But if you try to push BW film or a CCD output signal too far, you start to exceed the limits of the material and noise is introduced like the dreaded blue bands that some so loath and fear. Stan On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Feroze wrote: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS Friday (A day late)
Canada.. Mmm do you have any idea about shipping costs to Belgium? 2007/1/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Toronto, Canada Postal code is M6C 3L9 -Adam Thibouille wrote: Adam, where are you located ? 2007/1/6, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All prices in Canadian, plus shipping. I can only take money orders at the moment. Kit #1. K100D with less than 2000 shots on the clock. This is probably the best 6MP body on the market today, with in-body stabilization, the best viewfinder short of the D80 or K10D, excellent image quality, ISO 3200 and an 11 point AF unit that actually works decently in low light. Meters and does SR with anything you can mount on the front of it.$660 new at CameraCanada.com It also comes with: Pentax SMC-DA 16-45 f4 AL lens. Fixed f4, extremely sharp, full-time manual focus (Like USM lenses), hood (with removable cutout for adjusting polarizers), 24-70 equivalent, making it the widest general purpose zoom for digital cameras. Lens is like new. $377 new at CameraCanada.com SMC-A 70-210 f4. Classic and superb manual focus zoom. SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Sharp as all heck and handles well. Lens has cosmetic wear but mint glass. Approx $200 value. SMC-A 50mm f1.7. Sharpest Pentax 50, SMC-A mount allows all exposure modes and metering modes, only AF and focal-length communication is lost (You can manually enter focal length for SR). Flat field design, can do excellent macro work with the addition of extension tubes. Approx $100 value. Vivitar 300mm f5.6 K mount modified to a preset lens. Decent 300 prime, only meters correctly on the DSLR's as the aperture coupling and stop-down levers have been removed. Like all pre-A lenses it will work in Av and M modes on the K100D. Approx Value $25 (due to mods) Takumar-A 2x TC. Works with all K mount lenses, preserves metering and program modes with all A or later lenses, but not AF or focal length information. Approx $75 Value Remote Control F. IR remote for all Pentax cameras which support IR remotes(including All Pentax DSLR's). $25 value Henry's M42-Screwmount Adaptor. Preserves infinity focus, takes all M42 lenses. Works on Film and Digital K mount bodies. $25 value K mount-52mm reverse adaptor. Do macro with a reverse 50mm lens. Works nicely. meter couples with film bodies and works as a pre-A lens on digital. Approx value $5 49mm-52mm step-up ring. Allows standard pentax primes to mount on the reverse adaptor since most Pentax primes are 49mm filter size, not 52mm. Approx value $5 Chinon CP-6 Spot K mount film body. Just in case you want to try that wierd coated gelatin sensor. Program, aperture priority and manual modes with averaging and spot metering. Approx value $20, so I'm throwing it in. Also includes boxes for the K100D and 16-45, with all manuals and other items normally including in the box (Software, cables, accessories). K100D has almost-new Lithium AA's with less than 100 shots on them, good for another 600-800 or so. CP-6 has 3xAAA alkalines's which cannot be guaranteed (Can't remember how new they are). Kit cost to you: $1000. Kit #2 Pentax MZ-5n. Traditional interface on a good little AF body. Shutter speeds to 1/2000, 1/100 sync, 2fps winder, matrix, centre-weighted and spot metering. Traditional shutter speed dial, good viewfinder. Comes with: Kiron 28mm f2 K mount lens. Fast, sharp 28mm wide. SMC-F 35-80 f4-5.6 AF zoom. Kit lens. Not bad. SMC-A 50mm f2, classic Pentax 50, with full metering and exposure modes support on all Pentax K mount bodies. $250 for the lot. Kit #3. Pentax LX. Classic Pentax pro film SLR, form the class of 1980 (like the Nikon F3 and Canon New F1). 1/2000 shutter, 1/75 flash sync, TTL flash support (including a proper hotshoe unlike the F3). LED simulated match needle display, removable finder (standard DA-1 with adjustable diopter). Metering down to -6.5EV (128 seconds at ISO 100 and f1.4). Mechanical shutter for speeds over sync, electronic shutter at speeds below sync. TTL-OTF ambient metering in Aperture Priority mode with speeds below 1/75 sync (Yes, the camera will automatically adjust the exposure based on the actual amount of light hitting the film, for speeds between 1/60th and 128 seconds). Takes 2fps winder or 5fps motordrive (NOT included). Takes all K mount lenses except DA and FA-J lenses(which lack aperture rings). This body's seen some use. It's mechanically fine, but has wear, the leatherette is starting to peel and the film door latch is difficult to close. Since these bodies typically go for $400-600, I'm giving you a deal because of the door latch. SMC-M 50mm f2. The classic Pentax 50mm. $250. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
Oh, like limiting a car to 250km/h? Feroze Thibouille wrote: I don't think there is hardware involved ither the hardware already in the camera. The manufacturer probably just choose or not to provide that option. They deactivated this possibility in final 1.0 fimware and *might* enable it later. 2007/1/6, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS: *istD Outfit
not for me, but your pano is really neat! russ On 1/5/07, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of lookers, but no bids just yet: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150076053687 If you have any questions, or if you'd like to make an offer, please let me know. Thanks, John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
Something like that indeed. Say the car can do it but obviously the manufacturer thinks the car might not be secure enough, it might decide to artifically limit specifications. IMO (but really only an opinion) DSLRs manufacturers could enable ISO 25000 if they wanted. Of course it'd be meaningless but they probably could. 2007/1/6, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oh, like limiting a car to 250km/h? Feroze Thibouille wrote: I don't think there is hardware involved ither the hardware already in the camera. The manufacturer probably just choose or not to provide that option. They deactivated this possibility in final 1.0 fimware and *might* enable it later. 2007/1/6, Feroze [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS Friday (A day late)
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: Re: FS Friday (A day late) Canada.. Mmm do you have any idea about shipping costs to Belgium? http://www.postescanada.ca/personal/tools/calcrate-f.asp William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
Yes, it is possible if imaging processor allows this. In firmware v 0.2 it was possible to set iso50 and 3200. I believe for some reasons Pentax has cut these sensitivities in firmware v 1.0 On 06.01.07, at 21:32 , Feroze wrote: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved -- Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
The sensor has a native sensitiivity. Software pushes the image much as you would in PhotoShop if you accidentally underexposed. That's why it gradually deteriorates as the ISO increases. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Feroze wrote: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Two palm trees
Boris, nice mood shot. I like this one better than the flamingos (if that means anything to you). I like you mentioned, did not notice the an until others mentioned him, and I agree with Bob that you did a good job on the exposure, I know that if I were there I would have underexposed, and then I would be left with a too dark picture ( http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/pic11.html ). Again, nice mood shot, with the inclusion of the two lone palms, it reminds me of Corpus Christi, Texas (which is good memory, btw). russ On 1/5/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16107full=1 As usual brutal and honest comments are the best ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Gimme my fish
interesting/comical shot, I am not sure what I was expecting, but it made me laugh out loud russ On 1/6/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=16108 Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - City Night
nice shot Dag. it makes me think of fishing... with your hands. what is it they are *actually* doing? russ On 1/5/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=281748 *istD, FA50mm, 1:1.4, 1/15 hand held. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)
In my secret second ( or maybe third?) life, I'm Ken Rockwell, and I'm damn well tired of you Pentaxians making fun of me. Nikon rules! Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:18 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you are Ken Rockwell, you like strong colours. I'm not, thank God Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rumours about new K10D firmware coming
thanks guys, doesn't sound too magical now though Feroze Paul Stenquist wrote: The sensor has a native sensitiivity. Software pushes the image much as you would in PhotoShop if you accidentally underexposed. That's why it gradually deteriorates as the ISO increases. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Feroze wrote: They had K10 review in that issue and stated this: CCD sensitivity is 100 - 1600, but we have information that future firmware update will change that range to 50 - 3200 ! Forgive my ignorance, but how is it that a firmware upgrade can allow that, is there no hardware involved Feroze Thibouille wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? forum=1036message=21555257 Rumours only of course ... but cool nonetheless... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Winter scene 2
the second one is better, less distractions. the only thing maybe a little distracting in this one is the few reflections off the snow... at least the ones at the top that are in shadow russ On 1/5/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious as to your thoughts of this one, compared to the first winter scene. Of the two, I preferred this one, but most people I showed them to, preferred the first one Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 100, 1/45 sec @ f/16 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_43.htm for reference, Winter Scene (1st) http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_45.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
