PESO: I'm invisible...
Interesting what happens when something interesting is going on behind you. You can be really close and stillnot be seen: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=727 (K10D, 16-45/4 at 16mm) All comments appreciated! j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
On 12/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 Fer he's a jolly good fellow -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
LOL You got me Paul :) 2007/3/13, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
On 12/3/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. I like a bit of rough. I'm going. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Interview at PMA 2007
On 12/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Great house, Cotty. But the camera sucks:-) Thanks Paul. I know I'll be labelled as a heretic, but I have to say that the 1D is the best photographic device I've ever used - certainly on a par with the LX in terms of build quality and sheer respect. Reliability-wise, no contest. I loved the LX but it needed attention to keep it up and running. As for Godfrey's bug-bear, the design is first rate and I find little to fault it. I really wish I could find a reason to despise it so I could get a K10D and switch back. I can't. It will be interesting to see some K10Ds at GFM - maybe I will be wowed, maybe I won't ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I'm invisible...
On 13/3/07, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: Interesting what happens when something interesting is going on behind you. You can be really close and stillnot be seen: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=727 (K10D, 16-45/4 at 16mm) All comments appreciated! Very nice as usual sir. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Interview at PMA 2007
Well I think 1D and K10D are not exactly in the same league. But letting both of them where the should be, I still think the K10D should wow you, for what it is I mean. IMO There's simply no competition. It doesn't mean it is ideal or perfect. But for now, it is the best deal by far. 2007/3/13, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/3/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Great house, Cotty. But the camera sucks:-) Thanks Paul. I know I'll be labelled as a heretic, but I have to say that the 1D is the best photographic device I've ever used - certainly on a par with the LX in terms of build quality and sheer respect. Reliability-wise, no contest. I loved the LX but it needed attention to keep it up and running. As for Godfrey's bug-bear, the design is first rate and I find little to fault it. I really wish I could find a reason to despise it so I could get a K10D and switch back. I can't. It will be interesting to see some K10Ds at GFM - maybe I will be wowed, maybe I won't ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Being between jobs must mean you have extra creative writing energy to spend. Cheers, Dave ;-) On 3/13/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: new K100D doesn't work
On 3/13/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Walters Subject: Re: new K100D doesn't work H Once again. You suck. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/I_SORTA_SUCK.html And an old and outdated picture: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/the_fleet.html HAR!! I'm well and truly out sucked. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Hardware focus adjust
Just found this on Dpreview. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=22431507 very interesting. not for the faint hearted or those who don't like surgery James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/13 Tue AM 12:47:52 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow If that's all the middle men did you'd be right. They do a hell of a lot more than that. The view you express was discredited 150 years ago. What else can they do? You have a producer and a retailer, who could be one and the same if the circumstances are right. The only point to anyone else is to move the product from the producer to the retailer. The majority of hand-picked produce is for direct consumption, without processing. Food for processing is generally picked by machine, as appearance is less important. mike wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/12/2007 7:47:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Er, no. The crops would be slightly more expensive but would still be there. Citizens, on the whole, won't pick crops. In California, the biggest pool of housecleaners, caregivers, gardeners, and casual day laborers (mainly construction), is also illegals. No one else will do the work. In my immediate area there are a lot of Tongans filling those posts. Not all CA illegals are Latino. Any country that has a depressed economy will have some illegals in California. The average stay for an illegal is two years. They make their money and go home.(I saw the results of study once, though admittedly a study was probably hard to do.) I used to live in an area with a check cashing place that I used. That area also had a lot of illegals -- they used the check cashing place to send money home each week. It also had a phone where they could call home if they paid enough. Besides we have to compete with places like Mexico that grow crops where the pickers are paid squat. (Not to mention that small CA farmers, as in not agribusiness, operate on small margins). And other foreign countries were the pay is terrible. Competing with third world countries is just a fact of life now. If decent wages had to be paid for all crop picking, decent enough for no illegals being hired, most of CA's remaining agricultural would crash (despite agribusiness and some crops that don't have to be picked by hand. There are many hand picked crops here.). In fact, several small economies in CA would crash. I saw some figures recently that suggested that the labour cost involved in crop picking was somewhat less than 1/10th of the retail price at the most. You could double the wages and the retail price would only go up marginally. Most cost is added by the middlemen who do nothing but move the stuff around. What is and what should be are two different things. Marnie aka Doe BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GFM headcount
For Sure!!! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Untitled
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/13 Tue AM 12:07:22 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Untitled On 12/3/07, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Hello Pentax-Discuss, K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/9.5 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4555.htm I would have called it 'Psst'. Little black number, heavy on the tan - the WAGs are on the beach - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DST
On Mar 13, 2007, at 12:00 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: Yep, I wasn't as specific as I should've been. I really meant of the ones on the political scene today. Fred Thompson Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Interview at PMA 2007
On 13/3/07, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Well I think 1D and K10D are not exactly in the same league. But letting both of them where the should be, I still think the K10D should wow you, for what it is I mean. IMO There's simply no competition. It doesn't mean it is ideal or perfect. But for now, it is the best deal by far. Very good points Thibs. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GRNVO (Gallery Really Not Very Often)
Not sure what this is about. My dad said the same thing yesterday but I was able to reload the page no problem... Might be time to move from my ISP and the free space they offer. CW - Original Message - From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: GRNVO (Gallery Really Not Very Often) From: cbwaters Here's a quick post of some photos I shot at the basketball tournament I worked last week. I was at work something like 95 hours in seven days facilitating the event. Once the games are going on, if everything is running alright, I have some down time. After some much needed rest, I tried shooting some sports for the first time in a while. Access Denied. Bandwidth limit exceeded. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.9/719 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 8:41 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
I'm scheduled to be there with PDML-West. CW - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:26 PM Subject: GFM headcount Who's going? I need a rough estimate. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.9/719 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 8:41 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
Both my head and body will be there. And 12 hats.:-)not cats. Ear plugs are your own responsability Dave On 3/13/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/3/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. I like a bit of rough. I'm going. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Where have I been this weekend?
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: La belle France, then. Indeed. Here's another one: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8253594 Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SV TAv, using them?
FWIW, I'm mainly using P. Sometimes set to MTF or Speed but if I feel like I want a bit more shutter speed or less aperture, I just flick the wheels. CW - Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:13 PM Subject: SV TAv, using them? Mainly because I'm used to my old *ist D, I haven't been using these yet and wonder if you guys are. If yes, what situations make them advantageous? CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.9/719 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 8:41 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GFM headcount
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: GFM headcount I'm going. Although I haven't figured out how I'm getting there from Alberta yet. :-) As the one primarily responsible for the now annual PDML expedition to GFM, I would re remiss if we didn't come. Just made hotel reservations in Banner Elk. Bill and Phyllis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Need a refresher for BW film and flash
Three years ago, i shot my daughters, coaches, daughter's first birthday party. Indoor affair, and i used the D2H and SB80DX, and PZ-1 with AF280T. Now its my daughters, dressage coaches, son's first birthday, and they asked me to shoot same. I want to do the same set up, as the pictures turnmed out very well, but i forget what i didi with the 280 and PZ-1, as far as settings. I'm pretty sure it was on TTL and the camera set at manual probably 1/30 or 1/60 at f 4ish. Does that sound right.?? Also i may try out the sigma 500 dg super as well. That should give me TTL for the PZ-1 i think. I cannot seem to locate my manual. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a refresher for BW film and flash
David J Brooks wrote: Three years ago, i shot my daughters, coaches, daughter's first birthday party. Indoor affair, and i used the D2H and SB80DX, and PZ-1 with AF280T. Now its my daughters, dressage coaches, son's first birthday, and they asked me to shoot same. I want to do the same set up, as the pictures turnmed out very well, but i forget what i didi with the 280 and PZ-1, as far as settings. I'm pretty sure it was on TTL and the camera set at manual probably 1/30 or 1/60 at f 4ish. Does that sound right.?? Also i may try out the sigma 500 dg super as well. That should give me TTL for the PZ-1 i think. I cannot seem to locate my manual. Camera on manual exposure. Set the lens to an appropriate aperture for the DOF you want/need. Set the shutter speed for correct exposure or minimum hand-holdable speed (whichever is faster) Set flash on TTL or P-TTL auto Keep an eye on changing ambient lighting conditions and re-adjust steps 2 and 3 if necessary. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
Scott Loveless wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. Count me in ;-) I'll be coming down in the traditional wagon train with the Toronto contingent (Dave Brooks and Knarf Threiault). Speaking of GFM, I just finished the multimedia material for the presentation Doug Brewer and I will be giving on Friday night. It's a very beginner's guide to nature photography and the contest -- probably too basic for most people on this list (though it will be delivered with Doug's and my usual panache!), but we've noticed a lot of inexperienced photographers participating the last couple of years. This is probably a good thing. New blood is healthy. (Doug: I'm putting a CD of the beta version in the mail for you today.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
Mat Maessen wrote: On 3/12/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. Going. Not gone yet. -Mat (fixing the motorcycle this weekend) I might be riding the VFR to the mountain this year. My S.O. wants to come, but she'll be a couple of days behind me. So if she drives the car I'll have to find another means of transport (I don't think Dave's truck would work for three people). I've been riding the bike this week :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
All too true, I'm afraid. Paul On Mar 13, 2007, at 12:08 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: LOL -- some of us have too much time on thier hands :) ann Paul Stenquist wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: new K100D doesn't work
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: new K100D doesn't work http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/I_SORTA_SUCK.html And an old and outdated picture: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/the_fleet.html HAR!! I'm well and truly out sucked. I don't like leaving that one floating around, so that link is now dead. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Ya can nag and nag about using sun block, but who listens. Sad. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
On 13/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I might be riding the VFR to the mountain this year. My S.O. wants to come, but she'll be a couple of days behind me. So if she drives the car I'll have to find another means of transport (I don't think Dave's truck would work for three people). I can offer a ride from near Dulles (DC) to the mountain on the Thursday if this helps. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Yes. Like so many who have come before him, into the ground he goes. Paul On Mar 13, 2007, at 12:35 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Paul, The pictures are chilling and, in a way, heart warming. I suppose cremation is out of the question for him. Regards, Bob S. On 3/12/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: BW or color?
Yep, my monitor calibration was off. I hadn't run it in about six months, and the luminance level was down quite a bit. I do have to run gamma 2.2, so that makes a difference as well. (Gamma 2.2 is pretty much mandatory when dealing with stock houses, retouchers and other visual arts professionals.) But this was a wakeup call. I thought I could get away with six month calibrations. Not true. In regard to your rendering, it looks quite good now. The midrange contrast is a big improvement. When I first viewed it there was no detail to speak of in the blacks, which are converted from dark blue, by the way. I'm going to go back and rework the original RAW and do a new conversion. A correct monitor should help a lot. Thanks for taking the time on this. Paul On Mar 13, 2007, at 12:38 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I'm beginning to suspect that the contrast on your monitor is somewhat less than mine. ... Certainly possible. Let's see if we can know for sure: My monitor is calibrated with the Eye One Display 2 unit and iMatch 3.2 for 140 luminance, 1.8 gamma, and 5500K white point. An simplistic way to check whether your calibration is netting the same on-screen dynamic range as mine is to look at the grayscale step- wedge on my calibration page: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/calibration/cal.html If your monitor is adjusted to the same overall DR as mine, you should be able to see each step in the wedge as distince from the one next to it. At the left edge, the white wedge should disappear into the surrounding white area, and at the right edge the black wedge should be indistinguishable from the black bar above it. Each step in the wedge should be an even amount darker/lighter than the ones next to it. (You can check this with the Digital Color Meter application supplied in the /Applications/Utilities folder.) If that all matches, we're looking at the same thing with regards to contrast. ... But what do you mean by depth. More contrast makes the blacks block up here and wipes out the skin tones. Depth is a vague notion as relates to a two-dimensional photograph. When I see depth in a photo, BW or color, it is an illusion created by the expression of a full tonal scale as well as the interaction of focused zone and unfocused elements in the scene. A photo which has no full black or white and poor separation of tones in the grays tends to look flat and without depth, a photo which expresses the full tonal scale and retains good tonal separation in all the tones looks three-dimensional. It's something I strive for in my renderings. I've taken a copy of your runner photo and applied a curves adjustment edit to it, along with a spot correction on the black suit to hold back areas where the detail should remain. It's difficult as I am working with the 8bit JPEG file and there isn't a lot of detail in the black areas to start with, they are somewhat underexposed. This composite should show the difference ... I've included the histograms of the original and the adjusted image: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/PS-BW-runner-adjustment.jpg You can see that the adjustment is quite subtle. If I had the original RAW file to work with, there might be more that could be done to express the Zone II-V tones better. The adjusted image, on the right, shows much more depth, to my eye, and would be preferable to the color rendering in this instance. Godfrey On Mar 12, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I would like the BW rendering more if it had more depth to it. The current rendering in both versions is somewhat flat, but this is not as much of a problem with the color version. Godfrey On Mar 12, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: BW: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5716008 Color: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5708787 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Interview at PMA 2007
On Mar 13, 2007, at 2:47 AM, Cotty wrote: Thanks Paul. I know I'll be labelled as a heretic, but I have to say that the 1D is the best photographic device I've ever used - certainly on a par with the LX in terms of build quality and sheer respect. Reliability-wise, no contest. I loved the LX but it needed attention to keep it up and running. As for Godfrey's bug-bear, the design is first rate and I find little to fault it. I really wish I could find a reason to despise it so I could get a K10D and switch back. I can't. Hmm. Which bug-bear was that? What I didn't like about the Canon gear I had wasn't much connected with the design and quality. It was almost entirely the size/weight and lens line that didn't suit my fancy so well. I found the 10D quite a good camera in almost all ways other than the fact that it and the lenses were an awful lot to carry around. And I couldn't seem to find lenses that I like as much as the ones I have now. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
I'll be there in both flesh and spirit (and with beer) Rick --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
On Mar 12, 2007, at 22:26, Paul Stenquist wrote: WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 I don't mean to giggle at anyone's misfortunes... I know he must have meant a lot to you - but I giggled nonetheless. Does that make me a bad person? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org I am riding in the MS-TRAM this summer. Please consider sponsoring me! http://charles.robinsontwins.org/mstram.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
On 3/13/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. Count me in ;-) I'll be coming down in the traditional wagon train with the Toronto contingent (Dave Brooks and Knarf Threiault). Speaking of GFM, I just finished the multimedia material for the presentation Doug Brewer and I will be giving on Friday night. It's a very beginner's guide to nature photography and the contest -- probably too basic for most people on this list (though it will be delivered with Doug's and my usual panache!), but we've noticed a lot of inexperienced photographers participating the last couple of years. This is probably a good thing. New blood is healthy. Its always good to review the basics in anything i think. Looking forward to it. I have some ides and angles i'd like to shoot, after looking back at the last two years of photos. Dave (Doug: I'm putting a CD of the beta version in the mail for you today.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
On 3/13/07, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2007, at 22:26, Paul Stenquist wrote: WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 I don't mean to giggle at anyone's misfortunes... I know he must have meant a lot to you - but I giggled nonetheless. Does that make me a bad person? Not bad, just a bit cold. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need a refresher for BW film and flash
Ok, great. I was thinking correctly then. Getting to used to looking at a screen i suppose. Dave On 3/13/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Three years ago, i shot my daughters, coaches, daughter's first birthday party. Indoor affair, and i used the D2H and SB80DX, and PZ-1 with AF280T. Now its my daughters, dressage coaches, son's first birthday, and they asked me to shoot same. I want to do the same set up, as the pictures turnmed out very well, but i forget what i didi with the 280 and PZ-1, as far as settings. I'm pretty sure it was on TTL and the camera set at manual probably 1/30 or 1/60 at f 4ish. Does that sound right.?? Also i may try out the sigma 500 dg super as well. That should give me TTL for the PZ-1 i think. I cannot seem to locate my manual. Camera on manual exposure. Set the lens to an appropriate aperture for the DOF you want/need. Set the shutter speed for correct exposure or minimum hand-holdable speed (whichever is faster) Set flash on TTL or P-TTL auto Keep an eye on changing ambient lighting conditions and re-adjust steps 2 and 3 if necessary. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
On 3/13/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be there in both flesh and spirit (and with beer) And I'll have the GFM friendly 100 Litre cooler in the truck.:-) Dave Rick --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: BW or color?
Glad to help. I have a timer set to remind me to run the monitor calibration every month on my desktop system. I find the differences month-to-month pretty small, at least with the Cinema Display 23, but comparing the profiles over a six month time there is enough drift to be noticeable. Regards monitor gamma, I have calibration and profiles set up for both gamma 1.8 and gamma 2.2. Calibrated and profiled correctly, the on-screen appearance of image files seems almost identical in color managed applications, but I stick with the L=140, gamm=1.8, WP=5500K configuration because it seems to give me the closest match between screen and print output. I've not yet gotten involved in stock photo sales, although I probably should get some going. Godfrey On Mar 13, 2007, at 6:21 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yep, my monitor calibration was off. I hadn't run it in about six months, and the luminance level was down quite a bit. I do have to run gamma 2.2, so that makes a difference as well. (Gamma 2.2 is pretty much mandatory when dealing with stock houses, retouchers and other visual arts professionals.) But this was a wakeup call. I thought I could get away with six month calibrations. Not true. In regard to your rendering, it looks quite good now. The midrange contrast is a big improvement. When I first viewed it there was no detail to speak of in the blacks, which are converted from dark blue, by the way. I'm going to go back and rework the original RAW and do a new conversion. A correct monitor should help a lot. Thanks for taking the time on this. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GFM Accommodation
G'day All, While we're discussing GFM, I thought I'd ask if anyone has a spare berth and blanket, and if so would, you mind sharing it with a strange Aussie (...don't say it...)? This week I'm arranging flights for my North America vacation I have to look into booking rental cars accommodation all that stuff for the US leg. Contact me off list, or on, if you have anything available. TIA, Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I'm invisible...
Delightful as always, juan. Was this at Chinese New Years? G On Mar 13, 2007, at 1:43 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Interesting what happens when something interesting is going on behind you. You can be really close and stillnot be seen: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=727 (K10D, 16-45/4 at 16mm) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Interview at PMA 2007
Cotty wrote: I think you've got to take into account the three distinct levels of permutations (entry/prosumer/professional) within those releases, and even then there are two sub-levels within the professional range (1.3 and full frame). In the 1.3 crop range (that I went for) there have only been 3 releases: 1D late 2001 1D mark II mid 2004 1D mark III mid 2007 That's a bit less than three years per 'upgrade'. You forgot the 1DIIn in 2005 I think. Minor upgrade but, according to the nuts on naturescapes.net, image quality was improved enough to make a difference. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
Scott Loveless wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. I'm not going, but I am playing airport shuttle service to some big, bald, English dude named Steve who IS going. DCPDMLers, get ready for an event near the end of May, just before GFM :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GFM Accommodation
Since I'm no longer able to use PDML Central, we are staying at the Best Western hotel in Banner Elk, NC. It's about 15 or so miles from GFM. They still had rooms available 2 days ago March 11. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:29 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GFM Accommodation G'day All, While we're discussing GFM, I thought I'd ask if anyone has a spare berth and blanket, and if so would, you mind sharing it with a strange Aussie (...don't say it...)? This week I'm arranging flights for my North America vacation I have to look into booking rental cars accommodation all that stuff for the US leg. Contact me off list, or on, if you have anything available. TIA, Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DST
On Mar 13, 2007, at 7:28 AM, Bob Shell wrote: Yep, I wasn't as specific as I should've been. I really meant of the ones on the political scene today. Fred Thompson Typo morning. I meant Fred Thomas. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM Accommodation
I probably have a spot in the camper. I think I have Ann and Cesar so far. If Matt rides his bike in the rain again, I duno ;) I have a tent and some sleeping bags to offer up as well. CW - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:29 AM Subject: GFM Accommodation G'day All, While we're discussing GFM, I thought I'd ask if anyone has a spare berth and blanket, and if so would, you mind sharing it with a strange Aussie (...don't say it...)? This week I'm arranging flights for my North America vacation I have to look into booking rental cars accommodation all that stuff for the US leg. Contact me off list, or on, if you have anything available. TIA, Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 7:19 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM Accommodation
In a message dated 3/13/2007 8:20:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I probably have a spot in the camper. I think I have Ann and Cesar so far. If Matt rides his bike in the rain again, I duno ;) I have a tent and some sleeping bags to offer up as well. CW Me, me, me. All I can bring on a plane is a sleeping bag, I'll need a tent or a spot. Marnie aka Doe :-) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/12/2007 8:27:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. === Why? You buying pizza? Me. Marnie aka Doe :-) Ohmygod - the Pizza! What a great year that was ! :) ann BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
Cotty wrote: On 13/3/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I might be riding the VFR to the mountain this year. My S.O. wants to come, but she'll be a couple of days behind me. So if she drives the car I'll have to find another means of transport (I don't think Dave's truck would work for three people). I can offer a ride from near Dulles (DC) to the mountain on the Thursday if this helps. Dulles, eh? So you are bringing the pizza Cotty?? ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Where have I been this weekend?
In a message dated 3/13/2007 5:11:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. Here's another one: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8253594 Ralf == Now that I like. The first one didn't do much for me, but this one is interesting. Nice juxtaposition of stuff. Marnie aka Doe :-) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Very good Paul, that is the kind of humor with Pentax content this list needs so badly from times to times :-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:35 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend Paul, The pictures are chilling and, in a way, heart warming. I suppose cremation is out of the question for him. Regards, Bob S. On 3/12/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Morning Light
Just floating this out there for comments. I like it because of the lighting. I can tend to get jaded because I see this fairly often. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5720145size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Please help me sleep tonight
I have ordered a tripod (a Benro 457 BTW) in a German shop www.7dayslive.de I found them at the official Benro site. I phoned them before ordering. They said they had it in stock, and would ship it the same day. They would also provide me with a tracking number. Haven't heard anything from them yet, except an order confirmation. So, now I'm a bit worried. Probably silly by me. So, can anybody reassure me? I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I'm invisible...
Five faces...just like that. Unbelievable. -Brendan --- Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting what happens when something interesting is going on behind you. You can be really close and stillnot be seen: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=727 (K10D, 16-45/4 at 16mm) All comments appreciated! j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GFM 2007
Anyone on the list who has a reservation for this year's GFM Nature Photo Weekend who may be considering arriving anytime Thursday, or before 3:00 Friday, drop me a note off list and I'll see that your request gets forwarded to the proper place Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Please help me sleep tonight
www.resellerratings.com Shel I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Please help me sleep tonight
I googled them and found they were an ebay member with a pretty good rating. I think you should just call them again and just see where they're at with the tracking number. On 3/13/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ordered a tripod (a Benro 457 BTW) in a German shop www.7dayslive.de I found them at the official Benro site. I phoned them before ordering. They said they had it in stock, and would ship it the same day. They would also provide me with a tracking number. Haven't heard anything from them yet, except an order confirmation. So, now I'm a bit worried. Probably silly by me. So, can anybody reassure me? I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Morning Light
Well I like it anyway. Tom C wrote: Just floating this out there for comments. I like it because of the lighting. I can tend to get jaded because I see this fairly often. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5720145size=lg Tom C. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
In terms of a machine middle men are the lubrication that makes the system work. Like oil or graphite in a machine. Societies without them soon create them. By the way the retailer, if not the producer, is a middleman. Without middlemen there would be only producers and consumers. mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/13 Tue AM 12:47:52 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow If that's all the middle men did you'd be right. They do a hell of a lot more than that. The view you express was discredited 150 years ago. What else can they do? You have a producer and a retailer, who could be one and the same if the circumstances are right. The only point to anyone else is to move the product from the producer to the retailer. The majority of hand-picked produce is for direct consumption, without processing. Food for processing is generally picked by machine, as appearance is less important. mike wilson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/12/2007 7:47:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Er, no. The crops would be slightly more expensive but would still be there. Citizens, on the whole, won't pick crops. In California, the biggest pool of housecleaners, caregivers, gardeners, and casual day laborers (mainly construction), is also illegals. No one else will do the work. In my immediate area there are a lot of Tongans filling those posts. Not all CA illegals are Latino. Any country that has a depressed economy will have some illegals in California. The average stay for an illegal is two years. They make their money and go home.(I saw the results of study once, though admittedly a study was probably hard to do.) I used to live in an area with a check cashing place that I used. That area also had a lot of illegals -- they used the check cashing place to send money home each week. It also had a phone where they could call home if they paid enough. Besides we have to compete with places like Mexico that grow crops where the pickers are paid squat. (Not to mention that small CA farmers, as in not agribusiness, operate on small margins). And other foreign countries were the pay is terrible. Competing with third world countries is just a fact of life now. If decent wages had to be paid for all crop picking, decent enough for no illegals being hired, most of CA's remaining agricultural would crash (despite agribusiness and some crops that don't have to be picked by hand. There are many hand picked crops here.). In fact, several small economies in CA would crash. I saw some figures recently that suggested that the labour cost involved in crop picking was somewhat less than 1/10th of the retail price at the most. You could double the wages and the retail price would only go up marginally. Most cost is added by the middlemen who do nothing but move the stuff around. What is and what should be are two different things. Marnie aka Doe BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Thanks Markus. Lots of fun. Paul On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Markus Maurer wrote: Very good Paul, that is the kind of humor with Pentax content this list needs so badly from times to times :-) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:35 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend Paul, The pictures are chilling and, in a way, heart warming. I suppose cremation is out of the question for him. Regards, Bob S. On 3/12/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Morning Light
On Mar 13, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Tom C wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5720145size=lg It's quite nice, but I understand becoming jaded. Beautiful landscapes only hold my interest for so long, then I want something that holds my attention more. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
To this I would have to say Nonsense. Since this discussion centers, at least somewhat, around food, let's use that as an example. In many parts of the US, and certainly in my area, there are many Farmer's Markets, where produce and other food and craft items are sold directly to the consumer by those who produce the goods. Not only does the system work well, but it's growing to encompass many more markets in many more communities throughout the country. These open air markets have been seen in Europe and other countries for hundreds of years, and seem to have worked quite well for many people, both producer and consumer alike. The middleman not needed in all situations, although in some scenarios the middleman can be valuable in getting goods moved from the source to the consumer. It just depends on the products and the situation. Nonetheless, for many products and in many situations the middleman is just another source for increasing the price of a commodity and slowing down the transfer of the goods. And yes, without middlemen there would only be producers and consumers. You say that as though it were a bad thing. Is there something wrong with having only a producer and a consumer? Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling In terms of a machine middle men are the lubrication that makes the system work. Like oil or graphite in a machine. Societies without them soon create them. By the way the retailer, if not the producer, is a middleman. Without middlemen there would be only producers and consumers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Please help me sleep tonight
Perhaps it's as simple as calling them? I have had the same thing happen and the package arrives that day... or, like my experience with Wolf-online and they never had the camera even after assuring me it would ship on Monday... So, call the dealer and see where your stuff is. CW - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Please help me sleep tonight I have ordered a tripod (a Benro 457 BTW) in a German shop www.7dayslive.de I found them at the official Benro site. I phoned them before ordering. They said they had it in stock, and would ship it the same day. They would also provide me with a tracking number. Haven't heard anything from them yet, except an order confirmation. So, now I'm a bit worried. Probably silly by me. So, can anybody reassure me? I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 7:19 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Please help me sleep tonight
Thanks Shel and Skye. Mixed reviews. Nothing seriously wrong it seems. But it sounds like I'd better set myself in waiting mode. I hope I get the pod before April. I sure could need it for a capercailzie mating game. BTW I have just treated myself with a camotent http://www.norteamengros.no/shop/shopexd.asp?id=1352 It looks ok in the bag, and ok folded up. But folding it down is another story. You are supposed to do some rather complex folding manoeuvres. I suppose it makes me look rather silly. Is this for hunting laughing birds? Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 13. mars 2007 18:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Please help me sleep tonight www.resellerratings.com Shel I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Please help me sleep tonight
I'll do it tomorrow. To late now. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cbwaters Sent: 13. mars 2007 18:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Please help me sleep tonight Perhaps it's as simple as calling them? I have had the same thing happen and the package arrives that day... or, like my experience with Wolf-online and they never had the camera even after assuring me it would ship on Monday... So, call the dealer and see where your stuff is. CW - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Please help me sleep tonight I have ordered a tripod (a Benro 457 BTW) in a German shop www.7dayslive.de I found them at the official Benro site. I phoned them before ordering. They said they had it in stock, and would ship it the same day. They would also provide me with a tracking number. Haven't heard anything from them yet, except an order confirmation. So, now I'm a bit worried. Probably silly by me. So, can anybody reassure me? I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 7:19 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Please help me sleep tonight
Tim Typo retypes: My last sentence should be Is this good for hunting laughing birds? Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: 13. mars 2007 18:29 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Please help me sleep tonight Thanks Shel and Skye. Mixed reviews. Nothing seriously wrong it seems. But it sounds like I'd better set myself in waiting mode. I hope I get the pod before April. I sure could need it for a capercailzie mating game. BTW I have just treated myself with a camotent http://www.norteamengros.no/shop/shopexd.asp?id=1352 It looks ok in the bag, and ok folded up. But folding it down is another story. You are supposed to do some rather complex folding manoeuvres. I suppose it makes me look rather silly. Is this for hunting laughing birds? Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 13. mars 2007 18:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Please help me sleep tonight www.resellerratings.com Shel I have read about sites where you can find customer rating, but don't know what to search for. Please help me sleep better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
On 3/13/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be riding the VFR to the mountain this year. My S.O. wants to come, but she'll be a couple of days behind me. So if she drives the car I'll have to find another means of transport (I don't think Dave's truck would work for three people). Do it. :-) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
Count me in, I'll be there with my phone fully charged... Norm Scott Loveless wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Good one Paul, you got me... Norm Paul Stenquist wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
Middlemen often make prices lower. I live in New England. The history here is simple. It cost less and was easier to grow grain in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Most farmers who wanted to grow grain went to far away, (and it was far away), Pennsylvania and Ohio, to grow grain. That was the cause of one of the first great exoduses of people from New England. Those who chose to stay and compete couldn't, they were undersold by middlemen who bought grain in Pennsylvania and sold it here. The same was true of local crafts. Uniform good quality factory produced iron work put local blacksmiths our of the tool making business and turned them into mechanics. We built factories which produced cloth and tools to be sold by middlemen to the Farmers in far off lands, (like Pennsylvania and Ohio). Farmers markets sell fresh food in season, (but they won't sell you bread made with local grain),Your model falls down when you examine it critically. Wal Mart survives because a widget made in China and shipped here costs less to sell here than a Widget made here, no matter how much better it is. There's no other reason. They are the biggest damned middleman there is and they make prices lower. Shel Belinkoff wrote: To this I would have to say Nonsense. Since this discussion centers, at least somewhat, around food, let's use that as an example. In many parts of the US, and certainly in my area, there are many Farmer's Markets, where produce and other food and craft items are sold directly to the consumer by those who produce the goods. Not only does the system work well, but it's growing to encompass many more markets in many more communities throughout the country. These open air markets have been seen in Europe and other countries for hundreds of years, and seem to have worked quite well for many people, both producer and consumer alike. The middleman not needed in all situations, although in some scenarios the middleman can be valuable in getting goods moved from the source to the consumer. It just depends on the products and the situation. Nonetheless, for many products and in many situations the middleman is just another source for increasing the price of a commodity and slowing down the transfer of the goods. And yes, without middlemen there would only be producers and consumers. You say that as though it were a bad thing. Is there something wrong with having only a producer and a consumer? Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling In terms of a machine middle men are the lubrication that makes the system work. Like oil or graphite in a machine. Societies without them soon create them. By the way the retailer, if not the producer, is a middleman. Without middlemen there would be only producers and consumers. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO:light
Hi Pentaxians The Pentax A50mm 2.8 macro will be one of my favorite lenses on the K10D, I used it a lot on film too. SR helped again for this handheld springtime shot, which I really like. I made some amazing frozen flower shots early this morning and will soon show you some more :-) K10D, Pentax A50mm macro, F8 1/60 ISO 100 handheld, I call it light: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/blueten.jpg greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:light
Very nice. The A50/2.8 Macro is indeed an excellent performer. It's the only A series lens I have kept from the original bunch of Pentax lenses I bought used. Godfrey On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Markus Maurer wrote: The Pentax A50mm 2.8 macro will be one of my favorite lenses on the K10D, I used it a lot on film too. SR helped again for this handheld springtime shot, which I really like. I made some amazing frozen flower shots early this morning and will soon show you some more :-) K10D, Pentax A50mm macro, F8 1/60 ISO 100 handheld, I call it light: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/blueten.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: BW or color?
The BW Dave On 3/12/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a tough time deciding which way to go on this one: BW: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5716008 Color: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5708787 This is multiple frame, continuous autofocus mode, BTW. I'm pleased with the way the camera handles that. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: In Memory of a Friend
Good thing you had a chance to freeze the action of your friend, for prosperity. I can see he was no flake. Dave On 3/13/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good one Paul, you got me... Norm Paul Stenquist wrote: Photography can pose moral dilemmas. When does one shoot, and when does one put the camera down? Recently, I had to choose whether or not I should chronicle the passing of someone who had become my friend. He was a man who stood tall in my neighborhood. Strong and robust. But life was not good to him, and there came a day when he began to fade. I had photographed him when he was at his best, and I shot him again as he began to deteriorate. We spent some time together off and on, and I shot him again. And again. By the end, he was nothing more than a twisted relic of the man he once was. And then, he was gone. I have chosen to chronicle his passing in a small gallery. WARNING: This is not for the faint of heart. But it is reality, and it is something we all must accept. The photographs are here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=705004 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Morning Light
Well put together shot. yawn Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just floating this out there for comments. I like it because of the lighting. I can tend to get jaded because I see this fairly often. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5720145size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: a NEW Pentax-A 28mm f/2 lens just sold on Ebay ...
Jim King wrote: Today I captured the last of the eleven Pentax K-mount 28mm lenses (the K28/2) to complete that part of my collection. I now have all That is the one lens I also acquired recently although I am in no way a collector with only 11 Pentax lenses total. :-) The K 28/2 comments are rather scarce - there was a thread about it recently but it quickly deteriorated into some kind of a off-topis discussion... What is general opinion about K 28/2 in relation to other 28 mm lenses? Pawel .com = 9,90, .pl = 29,90 www.nazwa.pl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:light
Larger macros subjects often present an abundance of angle and plane choices in very tight quarters. By 'larger', I mean a larger subject to lens ratio which I feel can create a DOF dilemma. At least, for me. This may be one that can be managed a bit better from slightly further away. If they had a honey bee sipping nectar it would be the definitive spring shot. Jack --- Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Pentaxians The Pentax A50mm 2.8 macro will be one of my favorite lenses on the K10D, I used it a lot on film too. SR helped again for this handheld springtime shot, which I really like. I made some amazing frozen flower shots early this morning and will soon show you some more :-) K10D, Pentax A50mm macro, F8 1/60 ISO 100 handheld, I call it light: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/blueten.jpg greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Another Birdy
Keep us informed. We care. Ok I know a few who don't ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 12. mars 2007 02:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Another Birdy Thanks Tim. I hope so, however I'm going to be 59 in a couple of weeks. That's retirement age for advertising creatives. Unfortunately, with six people to support, I can't retire. I have a phone interview tomorrow with an agency in North Carolina. That's where I want to go when I retire. I would love to go there now. I'm praying. I appreciate the kind words. Paul On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:57 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I hope things work out well for you. This may be the opportunity for you ;-) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Another Birdy I'm taking up way too much bandwidth, but I'm very recently unemployed (thank you Ford for going in the toilet) and have nothing else to do. (More on that some other time.) Anyway, PESOs are better than silly flame wars. Here's another one from the nature center. It's a male house finch. I cheated and used a monopod. The flash fired this time as well (AF 540 FGZ with Kirk Xtender in high speed synch mode). ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/800th. K10D with A-400/5.6 and A2X-S converter. Fun in the forest. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5700067size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Morning Light
Sorry to bore you Jack. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Morning Light Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Well put together shot. yawn Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just floating this out there for comments. I like it because of the lighting. I can tend to get jaded because I see this fairly often. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5720145size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Wish I had a
I have one of those collecting dust. So if you are interested, make me an offer. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Owens Sent: 12. mars 2007 11:52 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Wish I had a On 3/11/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was shooting some basketball this weekend and REALLY coveted the pro shooters long 2.8 glass. not to mention shutter speed but lets not go there. Anybody got a 70-200 ish 2.8 AF lens for sale? I'm close with my Vivitar Series 1 70-210/3.5 Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Peso:White dog
I went for a stroll in the incredible golden evening sun in the nearby forest looking for some close-up photos with the K10D and the Pentax A50mm macro when I met this lovely dog. I hope that the owner will let me do some real portraits of this wonderful big pal, I sent her the first photos per email some minutes ago. Sharpness lacks quite a bit here in this photo so I really hope I can have a photo session with this lovely animal soon :-) Interesting only for dog or polar bear lovers ;-) ISO 200, F5.6 1/90 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/whitedog.jpg greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: I'm invisible...
Thanks for the comments Cotty, Godfrey and Brendan. On 3/13/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Delightful as always, juan. Was this at Chinese New Years? No, it was this past weekend, during something called brides of March--people dress up in wedding dresses going through a few bars around the Union Square area. Behing me there's a crazy group of people, both male and female, in bride costumes. Easy to not be noticed then... j G On Mar 13, 2007, at 1:43 AM, Juan Buhler wrote: Interesting what happens when something interesting is going on behind you. You can be really close and stillnot be seen: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=727 (K10D, 16-45/4 at 16mm) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO:High flyer
A high flyer some hours ago in the evening sun, Pentax A50mm macro on the K10D, polfiltered, ISO 200 F8 1/60, some branches cloned out and cropped: http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/highfly.jpg greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: new K100D doesn't work
Link does not work. HAR! Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 12. mars 2007 22:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: new K100D doesn't work - Original Message - From: Brian Walters Subject: Re: new K100D doesn't work H Once again. You suck. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/I_SORTA_SUCK.html And an old and outdated picture: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/i_suck/the_fleet.html HAR!! William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:High flyer
On 3/13/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A high flyer some hours ago in the evening sun, Pentax A50mm macro on the K10D, polfiltered, ISO 200 F8 1/60, some branches cloned out and cropped: http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/highfly.jpg I really like this image. Very sparse, intense, but beautiful. Is there a crop that you can show with more on the ground? just a tad? :) Nice work. -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Morning Light
No, you're not. I know you love it! If you want the whole world living in your back yard, just keep it up bucko! :-} Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to bore you Jack. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Morning Light Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Well put together shot. yawn Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just floating this out there for comments. I like it because of the lighting. I can tend to get jaded because I see this fairly often. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5720145size=lg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: a NEW Pentax-A 28mm f/2 lens just sold on Ebay ...
That is the one lens I also acquired recently although I am in no way a collector with only 11 Pentax lenses total. :-) The K 28/2 comments are rather scarce - there was a thread about it recently but it quickly deteriorated into some kind of a off-topis discussion... What is general opinion about K 28/2 in relation to other 28 mm lenses? It's a very good lens at all apertures. Whether it's better at smaller apertures than other Pentax 28s I don't know, but it is a top-performing lens. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:High flyer
Different and interesting shot. Thanks for posting. Jack --- Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A high flyer some hours ago in the evening sun, Pentax A50mm macro on the K10D, polfiltered, ISO 200 F8 1/60, some branches cloned out and cropped: http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/highfly.jpg greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GFM headcount
On 3/13/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mat Maessen wrote: On 3/12/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who's going? I need a rough estimate. Going. Not gone yet. -Mat (fixing the motorcycle this weekend) I might be riding the VFR to the mountain this year. My S.O. wants to come, but she'll be a couple of days behind me. So if she drives the car I'll have to find another means of transport (I don't think Dave's truck would work for three people). Three people work out ok, Mark. Its just an excersie in placing round packages in round spaces etc.:-) Dave I've been riding the bike this week :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:High flyer
On Mar 13, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Mike Hamilton wrote: On 3/13/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A high flyer some hours ago in the evening sun, Pentax A50mm macro on the K10D, polfiltered, ISO 200 F8 1/60, some branches cloned out and cropped: http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/highfly.jpg I really like this image. Very sparse, intense, but beautiful. Is there a crop that you can show with more on the ground? just a tad? :) Nice work. Hmm. I like that one just the way it is. :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pentax Gallery
What's the difference between Accepted in Gallery and Accepted in Collection? Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Macro Lenses
I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone know anything about these or others that I need to consider? Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:High flyer
Markus, http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/highfly.jpg as usual I found your post in the middle of another thread but it was worth it. Very nice, simple but powerful picture and those colours just love each other. Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D and K100D support in Aperture
Finally it is here with OSX 10.4.9 update: http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax Gallery
Very good. At 10:23 PM 3/12/07, you wrote: On 3/12/07, J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had 3 photos accepted into the gallery. They are all from filmWill send more when I have the timeJ Congrats! I submitted the leaf photo I posted a couple weeks ago. Not expecting it to make it, I was rather surprised today to learn that it had been accepted to the gallery. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Macro Lenses
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:43:12 -0400, Walter Hamler wrote I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone know anything about these or others that I need to consider? Walt Both the ones you've mentioned are good, I'd be tempted to go for the Pentax A, the Sigma is an older model I've never used. Also worth consideration is the Tamron 90mm, very well regarded. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and K100D support in Aperture
This time it was speedier IMO or should I say less slow ? 2007/3/13, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Finally it is here with OSX 10.4.9 update: http://www.apple.com/aperture/raw/cameras.html Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and K100D support in Aperture
At least they are not the last this time :-) C1 still awaits for update to include support for K10D and K100D ;-) On 2007-03-13, at 23:12, Thibouille wrote: This time it was speedier IMO or should I say less slow ? Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Peso:White dog second bw version
A second and hopefully better version of the polar bear white dog in toned bw can be seen at: http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/whitedog_bw.jpg I like this one more than the color version...despite one of the legs being to hot. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Markus Maurer Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso:White dog I went for a stroll in the incredible golden evening sun in the nearby forest looking for some close-up photos with the K10D and the Pentax A50mm macro when I met this lovely dog. I hope that the owner will let me do some real portraits of this wonderful big pal, I sent her the first photos per email some minutes ago. Sharpness lacks quite a bit here in this photo so I really hope I can have a photo session with this lovely animal soon :-) Interesting only for dog or polar bear lovers ;-) ISO 200, F5.6 1/90 http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/solicom/whitedog.jpg greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Macro Lenses
Walter Hamler wrote: I need a macro lens. Don't want to spend the bucks for the latest Pentax AF, for that matter I think I would prefer a MF version. KEH has some 100mm f/4 in different versions, one being an A model. They also have a Sigma 90mm f/2.8 A . Anyone know anything about these or others that I need to consider? What kind of magnification are you looking for? If you want 1:1 the Sigma 90 and Pentax A 100/4 only go to 1:2. For 1:1, the Pentax A 100/2.8, kiron 100/2.5 and Vivitar Series 1 105/2.5 would be good choices. I had the Vivitar Series 1 105/2.5 with the A setting. It is one of the sharpest lenses I've ever used. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
