Re: Speaking of judging photos...
Hi Tom, Simply, I promised the authors a verdict by April 30 (that happened when such deadline seemed feasible), so yesterday I had to hurry in closing the game. Having received 13 judgements, I thought it was enough. Thank-you to all who contributed and sorry for being so quick in stopping other helpful folks. Dario - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:54 AM Subject: Re: Speaking of judging photos... OK, please stop sending me your ratings, as I already have enough of them. Thanks a lot to you all! Now I'm going to put all of them on a xls file and then you can see how much different tastes there are around. Very interesting! Thanks again to all folks helping me. Dario What you didn't like famine and now you don't like feast? :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Speaking of judging photos...
Mark, As you can see by Cotty's ratings (who happened to be posted here), he more or less matched your proposal, by putting pictures in just three categories: 1= hate it 5= take it or leave it 10= love it. That's a possible interpretation of the 1-10 scores. Ciao, Dario - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:35 AM Subject: Re: Speaking of judging photos... Dario, I looked at your review data and the pictures. To me, almost all of the pictures were well crafted. Just for fun, I added a column with the variance VAR(). Some of the pictures that I liked the best had high variances. In thinking about how I judge pictures, I think I put them in three general categories. There are some that I really like, some to which I am indifferent, and others that really rub me the wrong way. The problem with the 1--10 scoring is that it's not clear if the low scores were caused by strong negative reactions or by indifference. I think that it would be interesting to try a little different scoring method: say, +5 = very positive, 0 = indifferent, -5 = strongly negative. You could use the scoring to create several different sub-exhibits: o) A least offensive exhibit with pictures that score high and have the fewest negative ratings o) A most polarized exhibit with pictures that have both the most positives and the most negatives o) A most lame exhibit with the pictures that score nearest zero. Just a crazy thought --Mark Dario Bonazza wrote: Here are the submitted ratings: http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/Street.xls Have you seen that quite many pictures rank among the best for some judges and among the worst for others? Only two pictures are well above the rest and only two are well below. Any further comments? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 08:04:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Judging Photos mike wilson wrote: I think that the possible subtleties of chemical pictures are being lost/abandoned in favour of smack'em in the eye colour and graphic composition. I don't think this is happening. One might get the impression that it is so only because we see so many images on the web: On a computer monitor smack'em in the eye often works better than the kind of subtlety that a good print can exhibit (imainly because of size limitations). If you look at what's being done in print from from digital, you won't notice any tendency away from subtlty and nuance. How do most people view most images these days? Even photographers look at a screen more than a print, I suspect. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 07:23:24 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Judging Photos mike wilson wrote: I think that the possible subtleties of chemical pictures are being lost/abandoned in favour of smack'em in the eye colour and graphic composition. It's only an impression, which I have no empirical evidence for, but two people on this list in the last month have mentioned it. My belief is that the preponderance of viewing onscreen, using thumbnails to choose which pictures to look at in any depth, reinforces this type of selection. Ah. No, don't think so. Photographers who shoot with subtlety will still do so, using digital. Just as there were photographers who did smack 'em in the eye colo(u)r, graphic compositions with film. Agreed. My concern is with new practitioners. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 07:30:29 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Judging Photos From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net I think that the possible subtleties of chemical pictures are being lost/abandoned in favour of smack'em in the eye colour and graphic composition. It's only an impression, which I have no empirical evidence for, but two people on this list in the last month have mentioned it. My belief is that the preponderance of viewing onscreen, using thumbnails to choose which pictures to look at in any depth, reinforces this type of selection. You might have something there. I detect (not sure) (even though a Velvia fan) that there is ALOT MORE post processing saturation being added now than there was in the past. This is being done to both scanned film, and digital images. Some thumbnail pages blow my socks off at first glance. Going to photo.net's home page and clicking on the Daily Sampling mini-thumbnails in the upper right and then going to a member's Single Photos page, I see a preponderance of heavily saturated images. At first I think, wow, and I compare them to some of mine where I know I left as is or bumped saturation only a little, and I come away thinking those images are not displaying the real thing and they're too good to be true. Example gallery: http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=327349include=all I just thought of a new term. PhotoKRography. Can you guess the etymology? My single shots gallery (contains a lot of junk too since I use it as a scratchpad): http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=400698 Even my Velvia shots look like Kodachrome in comparison. That's pretty much what I'm saying. You have maybe hit another nail, in that landscapes nowadays are often lacking in detail, due to the nature of the medium, and that lack is compensated for by oversaturation. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 07:36:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD There is something called fatherhood too, Tom ;-) After birth it is basically the same as being a mother. Is that why my nipples hurt? Tim Typo Mostly Hairless - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD You're a mom? :-) Tom C. From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:35 -0400 I have two girls, 7 8 years old. I totally understand where this mom is coming from. It's easy to read mindless drivel on the inter-web (pdml?) with kids running around. Reading for comprehension? Well, lets just say I didn't read a novel for years after Dana was born. CW - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD She's probably a very sweet mom, which isn't a bad thing nowadays. Just a little technically challenged. :-) Tom C. From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:35:46 -0400 kiss a booboo? On 5/1/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very silly conversation that just occured in the Yahoo *istD group. I've omitted the names to protect the innocent. QUESTION: OK let me preface this by saying that I know I could probably get the answer by reading my user manual. However... I have 3 kids uner 5 and they have not given me any time to read. Pictures I can take while they go wild, reading however doesn't sink in when you have to stop every 10 seconds to correct them or kiss a booboo. OK what is the little red square that blinks and beeps while I am looking the the viewfinder? Why won't it let me take a picture until that beeps? Its driving me nuts, I have missed many good shots because of it. -- ANSWER: That is the auto focus working, You can use the camera in manual and this will not happen but you will have to focus the camera manually. Hope this helps -- RESPONSE: I have tried in manual and it does the same thing. If its not focused properly it won't let me take the picture, even if it appears focused to me or it is how I want the photo to look. -- NEXT ANSWER: Push the little button down on the side to manual instead of auto focus, and it will fire whether it is in focus or not. -- NEXT ANSWER: Ooops, I see that is what you just said. Sorry, I can't think of anything else. Is the lens mounted tight? -- It's funny that there's time to sit in front of the 'puter, read and write e-mail, but not time to look at the manual. Probably not a person that needs or should have a DSLR. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/782 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:10 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 30.04.2007 09:14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Zealand (+ Hong Kong stopover)
On May 2, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Peter Lacus wrote: 1. where to go? I'm sure there are so many places worth visiting and we've got just 8 days for the Southern Island and 5 days for the Northern Island. I'd certainly like to experience Rotorua and compare NZ fjords with their cousins in Norway. The fjords are definitely worth a look but don't expect fine weather. Not that it matters... Milford is spectacular in good weather and even more spectacular in the rain. I've only been to the North Island a few times. Wellington is my favourite city but I'd probably hate the place if I lived there :) If you like movies, I think The Embassy is the best cinema in the country. Bob's map is probably about the best you can do for the South Island in that time frame. Next time he should add the following: - Arthurs Pass (the road between Greymouth and Christchurch), - the Southern Lakes (including the towns of Twizel, Tekapo and Mt Cook), - a tour through Manapouri power station (if he's not claustrophobic) - the Catlins Coast, - Abel Tasman National Park (west of Nelson) - about the only part of this island that I haven't explored yet. If you know about some hidden gems please share your knowledge. Exact GPS coordinates of great photographic vistas are especially welcome! (just kidding, I don't have a GPS ;-)). 2. where not to go? Are there some obvious tourist traps which are better to be avoided? I don't think there are any tourist traps here. Queenstown is relatively expensive but it's one of those places that has to be experienced. 3. availability/prices of Pentax lenses and slide film. If the prices were substantially closer to the US than to the UK, I'd probably buy 21Ltd. and perhaps 40Ltd. at the start of our trip (which happens in Christchurch). WRT slide film, Kodak EliteChrome or Fuji Sensia is enough for me (but of course AGFA RSX-II 50 would be preferable) - is it readily available or it's better to take some from home? In Christchurch the best camera shop is Photo Video. http:// www.photo.co.nz/ No problem getting hold of slide film in any of our bigger cities. The prices won't be too bad, especially as you can buy tax-free (don't forget to obtain the customs paperwork), but the availability of nice Pentax kit is pretty limited. Bodies (eg K10D) seem to be easy to find but don't hold your breath looking for good lenses. 4. I'd welcome some tips which car rental company offers most bang for the buck - e.g. not the most expensive nor the cheapest one, but with solid fleet and services. On our US trip we've used Alamo services and we were very satisfied. Also is compact/intermediate car (1.6-2.0l engine) enough or it would be a better idea to rent a SUV? A smaller car will be fine as long as you don't have huge amounts of luggage. The roads here certainly don't need an SUV. It is very expensive to take a car on the inter-island ferry. It may be worth dropping the car off, flying to the other island and picking up another car. Domestic airfares are pretty cheap if you're flying between major cities and you get to avoid the 10-metre swells that are all too common in Cook Straight :) 5. And of course the most important question - how about small PDML meeting under the Southen Cross? It's always nice to meet fellow Pentaxians anywhere in the world, isn't it? Let me know when you're in Christchurch :) Hopefully I won't have hurt myself this time. Of course any other suggestions/comments are welcome - if you know for example where to buy the best (yet affordable) wine or where to see kiwi in the wild - _everything_ is welcome. Best wine area would probably be Blenheim. There are award-winning wineries through the whole region. Pretty much every winery does tastings and even the supermarkets there are pretty well stocked. The kiwi is unfortunately rather rare so you might not get to see any wild ones (they're also nocturnal, which makes it less likely). - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 09:37:34 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Judging Photos Tom C wrote: I think that's part of Mike's point possibly. The web now seems to be, pretty much, the defacto presentation medium for many photographers, Nope. For most average joes, the print is *still* king, thought it might seem surprising to us. And at the other end of the spectrum, pros and fine art photographers, print is still *the* medium. We in this forum don't perceive this because we're a self-selected group of people who are more web-aware. From my personal experience of average joes, the defacto presentation medium is the LCD on the back of the camera. I never print anything - I don't need to any more unquote. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 09:24:27 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD I'm a father of three. I agree with you, Tim. I, for one, had the worst post-partum depression, for almost a year. The stitches from the episiotomy itched like hell for months. And, don't get me started on how long it took for me to get my figure back again... ;-) cheers, I bet your wife just grunted at you from over the top of the newpaper and took no sincere interest in the children, right? And you felt unloved and unappreciated. For seven days a month you were total hell to live with and for another seven you were worse. And if your wife, attempted to sympathise with you and let you off the hook because of your gender, oh brother, then there was hell to pay again. :-) You forgot broodiness. That's the _really_ scary bit. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso LV7 Old rock carvings
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 11:12:27 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso LV7 Old rock carvings Explains why they abondoned us I guess. Tim Typo Mostly Hairless BTW. Anybody noticed my modified signature? You've had a hair raid? Me too! - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Peso LV7 Old rock carvings I've got it! Early peoples had contact with KNARF! Kenneth Waller wrote: It is widely believed that these early peoples had some contact with space people and may be showing anntena on a head. Reminds me of Knarf his rabbit ears ! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Peso LV7 Old rock carvings http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5890772 One more from the carving series. This was taken at the same rock as the + and animal figures, but at ground level. The guidde explained that these were older than the ones high above the ground, and you can see that they are more simpler in structure. It is widely believed that these early peoples had some contact with space people and may be showing anntena on a head. YMMV but seems plausable to me. K10D, 16-45 f4, hand held SR on TAV mode LR DNG file adjusted and then finalized in PSCS2. Dave -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 26.04.2007 15:23 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Stop
But why? It works for me. Really good one. On 5/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same series. The two PESOs today editorialize. I don't think this is quite as strong as I hoped, but I could only stand in the middle of the road for so long. I am also not sure the BW conversion is quite what I want. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/stop.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO A recent panorama
Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
Tom C wrote: It's funny that there's time to sit in front of the 'puter, read and write e-mail, but not time to look at the manual. Probably not a person that needs or should have a DSLR. Tom C. Still not as good as those who open with I'm too lazy to search.. Fair enough, I'm too lazy to answer :D eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/02 Wed AM 10:01:14 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO A recent panorama Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. It looks completely different on flashearth. http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-34.62761lon=150.860562z=14.9r=0src=ggl - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
Gorgeous. On May 2, 2007, at 6:01 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Oak
It is like or hate it kind of shot. I am afraid I belong to the second kind. I think it is a bit too confused. On 5/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is about the best angle I could get on this. Brightness and Contrast have been bumped up. Still working on it. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/oak.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pulling Into Rosedale
Yes, it works. On 5/1/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to see that digital does motion blur, OOF blur and dynamic tilt just as well as film! ;-) http://gmapuploader.com/iframe.php?mapId=ISuB53uBVA Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Oak, 2nd Crop
Marnie, I still think this does not work. However your idea looks interesting to me. I shall try to come up with images that employ similar technique. If anything comes out, I'll post 'em and we would be able to compare the notes, so to say. On 5/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought Brian had a point, so I tried a horizontal crop on the Oak. As you can see I was trying to crop out the big poles on the left. But I suppose I could clone them out. And I still want to clone the top of the telephone pole in the middle right out. I might keep it color, but I thought the BW was effective. I've done nothing to this yet, really. Like I haven't bumped up saturation and sharpness, etc. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/oak2.htm Just curious if any of you prefer the second crop, before I bother to work on it more. TIA, Marnie aka Doe :-) Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
On May 2, 2007, at 6:26 AM, eric wrote: Still not as good as those who open with I'm too lazy to search.. Fair enough, I'm too lazy to answer :D It's part of today's culture. People expect everything handed to them without any effort on their part. Bob Prescription: A physician's guess at what will best prolong the situation with least harm to the patient. - Ambrose Bierce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
On 5/2/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Team, snip The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. LOL snip Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Nicely done Rob. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO -- Coachella 2007
Mike, evidently you use LR to generate the gallery. I'd like to know how to you instruct LR to give each photo a separate caption? Thanks. On 5/2/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This past weekend, I attended the Coachella Arts Music Festival in Indio, CA. It was a pretty intense weekend in all - 100 degree weather, 60 000 people, camping, etc... I had an amazing time. The rules as stated on the Coachella website stated that there were no SLR cameras permitted. In practice, I found that the rule was not really enforced, but I only had my Fujifilm F30. Anyway, check out the photos. There are 24 in all. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/Coachella -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. Very beautiful, Rob. I'd sure be proud if it were mine. What software have you used for stitching? Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth No probs with that but the download is painfully slow for a mere 2 MB. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PDML members' web pages
Henk Terhell, Nikhil Sarma, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. and Gabriel Cain added to the roster at http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm Thanks everyone! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
On 5/2/07, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's part of today's culture. People expect everything handed to them without any effort on their part. Shut up and bring me a coffee (black, no sugar). cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
On 5/1/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/1/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet your wife just grunted at you from over the top of the newpaper and took no sincere interest in the children, right? And you felt unloved and unappreciated. For seven days a month you were total hell to live with and for another seven you were worse. And if your wife, attempted to sympathise with you and let you off the hook because of your gender, oh brother, then there was hell to pay again. :-) Nah, That was my mother. Her behaviour explains much about how I came to me the man I am... Can anyone give Frank a ride to GFM. I'm worried now. LOL Dave ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
That could be true Mark. Many of the people i know around here have PS's and are always hitting the local Wally World or Shoppers Drug Mart and printing out all of their pictures as 4x6's except one would quess, the clunkers. Volume rates are $0.19 per, with no developing fees, so i suppose they see it as a cheap way of presenting prints to friends. Dave On 5/1/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom C wrote: I think that's part of Mike's point possibly. The web now seems to be, pretty much, the defacto presentation medium for many photographers, Nope. For most average joes, the print is *still* king, thought it might seem surprising to us. And at the other end of the spectrum, pros and fine art photographers, print is still *the* medium. We in this forum don't perceive this because we're a self-selected group of people who are more web-aware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
Hi Rob And a nice capture it is too. Great part of the world that is. I'm heading down that way myself in a few weeks. I don't have the K10D and its SR but I also don't have a 9 month old child . so the DS might be able to cope with something similar. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML members' web pages
Hi Mark Would you mind adding this: http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/index.html Still some tweaking to do but it's getting close to what I want. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a reminder: If you want your web page listed at http://www.robertstech.com/pdml.htm let me know your name and URL... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Get a free email account with anti spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware 1.10
If that were true, then TTL metering in the general case wouldn't work consistently for different lenses in any exposure mode at different lens openings. When lenses are wide open, it's less of a point source though, right? Consider the SLR focusing screen as a rear projection screen, with the illumination source being the lens. Its built-in fresnel lens collimates what would otherwise be relatively simple hemispherical scatter, to first order approximation, and directs it towards the ocular. The metering sensors are designed to read light intensity from that scattering rear projection surface, they don't intercept the light directly from the lens. The scatter induced by the screen's matte focusing surface ameliorates the variations from that would otherwise be seen with a clear screen. (When special purpose near-clear and clear screens were available in the past for cameras like the Nikon F series, charts regarding TTL metering errors, both for total ambient curve and for focal length adjustments, were included. Most of the time, they recommended not using the TTL metering due to variabilities like this..) Godfrey In any even, I'm talking out my ass... I don't know much about optical lens design. I could also be confusing the metering inaccuracy I've seen with my *ist-DS with the 3rd-party, split-prism focus screen. I don't recall if I had issues with metering inaccuracy with K/M lenses and the stock screen... been too long since I used it. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - more bike stuff
I've convinced myself that if I can shave off 30lbs this summer I'll need a new bike. :-) So I'm looking at a Trek Pilot. Probably the 1.0. Ball-and-chain won't let me spend much more than that. Plans include daily workouts, trips to the grocery store, pulling the kids in a trailer, and the occasional weekend jaunt (without the kids). Anyone have any experience with these? Or should I be considering something else. FWIW, the local shop is a Trek dealer. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
Are you planning to enlist your services to the review websites as an image stabilization testing facility? ;-) Nice work! Or should I say capture? G On May 2, 2007, at 3:01 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
The enemy is captured and the war is won ;-). Lovely photograph, Rob. On 5/2/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Stop
Most people liked it, so I am going with it. Well, it could be just a shot of a boring housing development. But taken in context of my theme, yup, I guess it works. Context counts for a lot. Thanks for looking, Boris. Marnie aka Doe ;-) == But why? It works for me. Really good one. On 5/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same series. The two PESOs today editorialize. I don't think this is quite as strong as I hoped, but I could only stand in the middle of the road for so long. I am also not sure the BW conversion is quite what I want. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/stop.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML members' web pages
Brian Walters wrote: Hi Mark Would you mind adding this: http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/index.html Not at all. It's on the page now :) Still some tweaking to do but it's getting close to what I want. My web page has been on line since 1997 and I still have plenty of tweaking to do... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Oak, 2nd Crop
In a message dated 5/2/2007 4:10:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I still think this does not work. However your idea looks interesting to me. I shall try to come up with images that employ similar technique. If anything comes out, I'll post 'em and we would be able to compare the notes, so to say. === Thanks, Boris. I am working on the second crop and I think it is going to look fine. Compositionally the second crop is better. This is the type of shot I think works dead center, personally. I don't thnk reshooting it I can place it any better. Marnie aka Doe :-) Still cloning stuff out. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
Rob Studdert, the Digital Image Studio guy, wrote: The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Perhaps the photo might have been more resolute, but you certainly couldn't have been! Good work! (And nice capture) http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - more bike stuff
I think the Trek that my boyfriend purchased last summer is the hybrid version of that same frame and running gear. Very nice bicycle: very good equipment and a pleasure to ride. I went for a Bianchi San Jose single-speeder model and then had it customized: a hybrid seating position and a Shimano Nexus 8 internal gearbox was installed rather than a derailleur set up. It does about the same thing but the steering and handling are a bit faster, the internal-hub gearbox is a bit easier to deal with in traffic. http://www.gdgphoto.com/bsj-8/ Godfrey On May 2, 2007, at 6:34 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: I've convinced myself that if I can shave off 30lbs this summer I'll need a new bike. :-) So I'm looking at a Trek Pilot. Probably the 1.0. Ball-and-chain won't let me spend much more than that. Plans include daily workouts, trips to the grocery store, pulling the kids in a trailer, and the occasional weekend jaunt (without the kids). Anyone have any experience with these? Or should I be considering something else. FWIW, the local shop is a Trek dealer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - more bike stuff
Scott Loveless wrote: I've convinced myself that if I can shave off 30lbs this summer I'll need a new bike. :-) So I'm looking at a Trek Pilot. Probably the 1.0. Ball-and-chain won't let me spend much more than that. Plans include daily workouts, trips to the grocery store, pulling the kids in a trailer, and the occasional weekend jaunt (without the kids). Anyone have any experience with these? Or should I be considering something else. FWIW, the local shop is a Trek dealer. Thanks! How hilly is it locally? If it's not very, I'd get a singlespeed like the Kona Paddy Wagon or Giant Bowery. You get more bike for the buck because you're not buying a fancy drivetrain. And they're also built to take more abuse than the lower-end geared roadies. That said, the Trek Pilot 1.0 isn't bad. The only real weaknesses are the wheels and shifters. The wheels at that price point tend to be light instead of robust (at higher pricepoints they're light robust) and the drivetrain is going to wear reasonably quickly if you're big or putting down a lot of miles. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - more bike stuff
I tried that last year, and kinda gave up in the heat. However, after the last Dr. vist Monday, i have talked my self into doing the same as you. All i need is air in the Norco tires and a way we go.After all, i will have some time on my hands soon.:-) I really must loose some weight, or i'll be in trouble in a few years. I tried walking but the arthritis in my toes hinders that to a day or so aweek, which is no good. All that time i attributed it to gout, which i do get, but no its gout and arthritis. Oh to be 25 again.LOL Dave On 5/2/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've convinced myself that if I can shave off 30lbs this summer I'll need a new bike. :-) So I'm looking at a Trek Pilot. Probably the 1.0. Ball-and-chain won't let me spend much more than that. Plans include daily workouts, trips to the grocery store, pulling the kids in a trailer, and the occasional weekend jaunt (without the kids). Anyone have any experience with these? Or should I be considering something else. FWIW, the local shop is a Trek dealer. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rebates on K10Ds and kits anyone? (US only of course)
Apparently Pentax is trying to recover some of the US market share that it squandered over the past 20 years. Digital Image Studio wrote: http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/rebates_offers/ -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Mt. Diablo
Another picture, same series... The second peak (left) is Mt. Diablo. Or rather one of Mt. Diablo's peaks. In addition to being an interesting mountain, Mt. Diablo is also a California State Park. On the right you can see a gouged area in the hill that was caused by coal strip mining. Once upon a time there was coal mining in the Mt. Diablo area, until about the 1920's when sand mining took over. It is now museum material. That area is directly behind Black Diamond Mines. It probably was a part of Black Diamond Mines, or else it was a completely different mine. Mt. Diablo State Park acquired the remains of some coal mines in the 1970's. So I suspect that hillside is also the boundary of Mt. Diablo State Park. I think this is a pleasing little pastoral picture of Mt. Diablo. ;-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/diablo.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Temptation...
I have received my tax refund check(s). I just missed out in the bidding on an A*300/2.8 And there's currently a $100.00 rebate on the 10-17 fisheye zoom, which seems like a really fun lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Stop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people liked it, so I am going with it. I haven't commented yet... but *I* like it! Well, it could be just a shot of a boring housing development. But taken in context of my theme, yup, I guess it works. Context counts for a lot. Wow. That's a topic for a massive discussion in itself! I agree with you that context counts for a lot, but I think your shot works even by itself. I'd crop some off the bottom and a hair off the right (I played around a bit and found a 3:4 aspect ratio worked very much to my taste for this shot) but there's no need to mess with it if you like what you've got. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/stop.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Stop
In a message dated 5/2/2007 7:44:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people liked it, so I am going with it. I haven't commented yet... but *I* like it! Well, it could be just a shot of a boring housing development. But taken in context of my theme, yup, I guess it works. Context counts for a lot. Wow. That's a topic for a massive discussion in itself! I agree with you that context counts for a lot, but I think your shot works even by itself. I'd crop some off the bottom and a hair off the right (I played around a bit and found a 3:4 aspect ratio worked very much to my taste for this shot) but there's no need to mess with it if you like what you've got. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/stop.htm == Thanks, Mark. I'll look into your crop suggestions. I am also too busy for a context discussion at this time. (Or maybe at any time). Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Oak, 2nd Crop
In a message dated 5/2/2007 7:45:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am afraid I did not express myself clear enough. I am going to try similar hmmm theme, or motif, but I am going to try to shoot it differently than you did, entirely differently. Or may be not. I don't know. I just feel like this attempt of yours does not convey the message I feel like getting clear enough. Hope I am not confusing you and/or myself further here. === I got you. I think my image has potential and it is the best juxtaposition I can find in my county. The upshot is about 1/2 that commented really, really liked it and about 1/2 felt it lacked compositionally. So I am going to go with the horizontal crop, fix it up, and probably crop it again. To me, well, I want an icon for my whole theme/series, and I think this is the one. Ergo, it needs to work as an icon, more than a photo. I will be interested to see anything you shoot, naturally, Boris. But then, I always am. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
So we should just call you Milky from now on? mike wilson wrote: From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 07:36:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD There is something called fatherhood too, Tom ;-) After birth it is basically the same as being a mother. Is that why my nipples hurt? Tim Typo Mostly Hairless - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD You're a mom? :-) Tom C. From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:35 -0400 I have two girls, 7 8 years old. I totally understand where this mom is coming from. It's easy to read mindless drivel on the inter-web (pdml?) with kids running around. Reading for comprehension? Well, lets just say I didn't read a novel for years after Dana was born. CW - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD She's probably a very sweet mom, which isn't a bad thing nowadays. Just a little technically challenged. :-) Tom C. From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:35:46 -0400 kiss a booboo? On 5/1/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very silly conversation that just occured in the Yahoo *istD group. I've omitted the names to protect the innocent. QUESTION: OK let me preface this by saying that I know I could probably get the answer by reading my user manual. However... I have 3 kids uner 5 and they have not given me any time to read. Pictures I can take while they go wild, reading however doesn't sink in when you have to stop every 10 seconds to correct them or kiss a booboo. OK what is the little red square that blinks and beeps while I am looking the the viewfinder? Why won't it let me take a picture until that beeps? Its driving me nuts, I have missed many good shots because of it. -- ANSWER: That is the auto focus working, You can use the camera in manual and this will not happen but you will have to focus the camera manually. Hope this helps -- RESPONSE: I have tried in manual and it does the same thing. If its not focused properly it won't let me take the picture, even if it appears focused to me or it is how I want the photo to look. -- NEXT ANSWER: Push the little button down on the side to manual instead of auto focus, and it will fire whether it is in focus or not. -- NEXT ANSWER: Ooops, I see that is what you just said. Sorry, I can't think of anything else. Is the lens mounted tight? -- It's funny that there's time to sit in front of the 'puter, read and write e-mail, but not time to look at the manual. Probably not a person that needs or should have a DSLR. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/782 - Release Date: 5/1/2007 2:10 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 30.04.2007 09:14 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
I wish I could view it smaller, like with minimal scrolling. Then have the option to zoom in. I find it hard to see this way, but it does look nice. Marnie aka Doe :-) === Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Crow's Nest
Another picture, same series... It is actually a hawk (I think), but I liked the title. This is a little mound/mountain standing alone near the wetlands. I took several shots of it, wide angle from a distance, and closer. Then I noticed the hawk circling. The mound did seem to be its base of operations. The pic looked all right in color, but I thought it looked better in BW. However, I am unsure of my BW rendition on this one. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/nest.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Rebates on K10Ds and kits anyone? (US only of course)
Digital Image Studio wrote: http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/rebates_offers/ = The rebates have been going on some time at Adorama. Originally they ended at the end of March, then the end of April, and now it appears the end of July. Though, I admit I am not sure they had a rebate on the K10D before. I don't think so. And I am unsure if this is a good-thing or a bad-thing big picture-wise. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD Can anyone give Frank a ride to GFM. I'm worried now. I can pick him up in St Louis. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware 1.10
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: Re: Firmware 1.10 If that were true, then TTL metering in the general case wouldn't work consistently for different lenses in any exposure mode at different lens openings. When lenses are wide open, it's less of a point source though, right? I don't think so, the lens is still covering the full format, but the light is dimmer. Large format lenses often increase the size of the image cirgle as the lens is stopped down. In any even, I'm talking out my ass... I don't know much about optical lens design. I could also be confusing the metering inaccuracy I've seen with my *ist-DS with the 3rd-party, split-prism focus screen. I don't recall if I had issues with metering inaccuracy with K/M lenses and the stock screen... been too long since I used it. I'm thinking that the metering is just plain innacurate as the light levels to the sensor drops closer to the sensitivity cutoff. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
- Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio Subject: PESO A recent panorama Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. Cool, I could make a 3 tall print from that... Exciting!!! I am envious of people who live near stuff like that. I have to drive for a full day to get anything other than wheat fields. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
LOL! Tha was funny, Frank. (However, I would like to point out that all that is cultural rather than a natural part of giving birth.) frank theriault wrote: On 5/1/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something called fatherhood too, Tom ;-) After birth it is basically the same as being a mother. I'm a father of three. I agree with you, Tim. I, for one, had the worst post-partum depression, for almost a year. The stitches from the episiotomy itched like hell for months. And, don't get me started on how long it took for me to get my figure back again... ;-) cheers, frank the smartass -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Big Boat
I realize you are just showing it to show it, but actually I like pic #3 where it is tied to the dock. Nice shot. And interesting job. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Are you going to talk funny like that when I meet you? G'day All, For those of you who might be interested in what it is I do for a crust, or if you like ships, you might find these 5 shots interesting: http://picasaweb.google.com/OzSavage/GESO?authkey=p9SrbAUHTuQ All taken with the K10D DA 16-45 I was part of the team that designed detailed her I spent about 2 years working on. I'm in China at the moment to check out the vessel. It's not great photography, these are purely record shots generated from the in camera RAW+JPEG and uploaded,. No PP, so if they look off that can't be helped. I've got a few more days here and I'm hoping to have the opportunity to take some more photographically interesting shots. Cheers, Dave - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - High Wires
Three PESOs in one day, sorry. But it is raining today, it may rain again tomorrow, and class is tomorrow and I am figuring out which pics to show the teacher for my progress to date. I sort of like this and could work it into my series in juxtaposition with another shot. I can also reshoot at the high voltage area. When I was there it was the wrong time of day and I got a lot of lens flare in some directions. But I sort of like this one, anyway. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wires.htm I am curious if it has enough interest or not. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Mt. Diablo
Yes, it is nice. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture, same series... The second peak (left) is Mt. Diablo. Or rather one of Mt. Diablo's peaks. In addition to being an interesting mountain, Mt. Diablo is also a California State Park. On the right you can see a gouged area in the hill that was caused by coal strip mining. Once upon a time there was coal mining in the Mt. Diablo area, until about the 1920's when sand mining took over. It is now museum material. That area is directly behind Black Diamond Mines. It probably was a part of Black Diamond Mines, or else it was a completely different mine. Mt. Diablo State Park acquired the remains of some coal mines in the 1970's. So I suspect that hillside is also the boundary of Mt. Diablo State Park. I think this is a pleasing little pastoral picture of Mt. Diablo. ;-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/diablo.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Crow's Nest
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture, same series... It is actually a hawk (I think), but I liked the title. This is a little mound/mountain standing alone near the wetlands. I took several shots of it, wide angle from a distance, and closer. Then I noticed the hawk circling. The mound did seem to be its base of operations. The pic looked all right in color, but I thought it looked better in BW. However, I am unsure of my BW rendition on this one. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/nest.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) Overall the hill just looks really soft to me and that bothers me a bit. I think it's actually a vulture, but it's hard to tell based on the image. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Temptation...
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Temptation... I have received my tax refund check(s). I just missed out in the bidding on an A*300/2.8 And there's currently a $100.00 rebate on the 10-17 fisheye zoom, which seems like a really fun lens... I have one of those. Never hardly use it since I got the 12-24. It is a fun lens though. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Big Boat
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO: Big Boat Marnie aka Doe ;-) Are you going to talk funny like that when I meet you? He'll probably have a really weird accent too. William (uninflected Я us) Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - High Wires
I think it's interesting, I like the stark simplicity of it. More of a magazine/newspaper, in my opinion, shot rather than something with real wall hanging potential, unless you live in a extremely stark modern home. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three PESOs in one day, sorry. But it is raining today, it may rain again tomorrow, and class is tomorrow and I am figuring out which pics to show the teacher for my progress to date. I sort of like this and could work it into my series in juxtaposition with another shot. I can also reshoot at the high voltage area. When I was there it was the wrong time of day and I got a lot of lens flare in some directions. But I sort of like this one, anyway. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wires.htm I am curious if it has enough interest or not. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom, Photoshop Album or PS CS2 Bridge to organize?
Now I have a student discount again, I'll probably break down and get Lightroom. It can be had for $94.95 with a student discount. Marnie aka Doe :-) I knew there was some reason I kept taking classes. === Lightroom. Bridge is not an organizer and has no ability to manage data that is on an off-line volume. Bridge is a browser and workflow/automation coordinator for the Adobe Creative Suite. Album was never available on Mac OS X anyway so that was never an option for me. Lightroom works exceptionally well as the center of your photographic workflow. It handles import, renaming, organizing (combining into sets, sorting and grading, etc), metadata editing, global editing (cropping, rotation, tonal rendering) and limited spot correction, integrates beautifully with Photoshop CSx and other external editors for higher-level selective editing, and has excellent tools for slide show and print output. It also does web site output although I find its facilities there a little weaker than the rest. I use it extensively, every day, and the more I use it and uncover its subtleties, the more I like it. Godfrey - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
About Chimping
Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - High Wires
In a message dated 5/2/2007 8:55:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it's interesting, I like the stark simplicity of it. More of a magazine/newspaper, in my opinion, shot rather than something with real wall hanging potential, unless you live in a extremely stark modern home. == I am thinking of juxtapositioning it with a shot of tree branches, equally stark. But right now that is just an idea. Thanks, Peter. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
You get that automatically with Mozilla, (probably with the latest version of IE as well). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish I could view it smaller, like with minimal scrolling. Then have the option to zoom in. I find it hard to see this way, but it does look nice. Marnie aka Doe :-) === Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
Well if you watch TV instead of reading. As for no one reading, how do all those book stores stay in business. However, I will agree that there are a lot of so called technical books that kind of give you ionformation that way, and without the sound bites. Bruce Dayton wrote: Didn't this already start to happen when Velvia came on the scene to give us that over-the-top punchy color in slides? I'm sure our viewing mediums have had some impact, but so has our social environment. Today, information is thrown at us in a very fast, concentrated way. All the media types do it - short, fast commercials, movies instead of books, etc. So to stand out from the crowd - there has to be something catchy. Photography is just a follow on to that. Some of my thoughts... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Deep River Town Offices:Now (version b)
Much better. Marnie aka Doe :-) === There was enough of a consensus that this was too dark. So here's another try. I bumped up the mid tones then darkened the sky a bit. Then applied the BW conversion, this time with a red filter. I applied a faux grain layer, (which I find works a bit like pre-flashing film, anyone else remember that technique?). Then added a Platinum tint. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_deeprivertounoffices_b.html And the original in case anyone wants to compare. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO_--_deeprivertounoffices.html As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Crow's Nest
In a message dated 5/2/2007 8:51:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Overall the hill just looks really soft to me and that bothers me a bit. I think it's actually a vulture, but it's hard to tell based on the image. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net === Thanks, Christian. I can sharpen it up. Sometimes I don't sharpen enough. Well, it circled like a hawk, but it could have been a vulture too. OTOH, maybe the hill is too soft, I will take a second look. I also had other shots as well. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Temptation...
Why don't you get the autofocus version: http://tinyurl.com/2tk7mc ;-) On 5/2/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received my tax refund check(s). I just missed out in the bidding on an A*300/2.8 And there's currently a $100.00 rebate on the 10-17 fisheye zoom, which seems like a really fun lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- fernando's photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso LV7 Old rock carvings
Tim Typo Mostly Hairless BTW. Anybody noticed my modified signature? == Yes, for a while I wondered if it was even you. I miss the mostly harmless. Marnie aka Doe :-( - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
When a photographer looks at his LCD screen, he usually bends forward a bit, giving him the curved spine look of a chimp. If he likes what he sees, he may very well go, ooh, ooh, ooh, much like our lower primate cousins. Paul -- Original message -- From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
Since the first google entry that comes up answers your question Fernando Terrazzino wrote: Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
Of course. -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are they lower because they are short? G On May 2, 2007, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a photographer looks at his LCD screen, he usually bends forward a bit, giving him the curved spine look of a chimp. If he likes what he sees, he may very well go, ooh, ooh, ooh, much like our lower primate cousins. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware 1.10
On May 2, 2007, at 7:45 AM, William Robb wrote: If that were true, then TTL metering in the general case wouldn't work consistently for different lenses in any exposure mode at different lens openings. When lenses are wide open, it's less of a point source though, right? I don't think so, the lens is still covering the full format, but the light is dimmer. Large format lenses often increase the size of the image cirgle as the lens is stopped down. I don't know how the notion of whether a lens appears to be a point source or not relates to a sensor reading light emanating from a diffuse imaging screen. Once light hits the screen's focusing surface, is scattered then collimated by the screen's built-in fresnel lens, whether the lens is acting as a point or diffuse source is of little concern. From the point of view of the sensor or film, yes: as a lens is stopped down, it becomes more of a point-source illuminator. This is why dust on the sensor of a digital camera is more apparent at small lens openings, the edges of the dust blob's shadow are better defined with a point source illumination. In any even, I'm talking out my ass... I don't know much about optical lens design. I could also be confusing the metering inaccuracy I've seen with my *ist-DS with the 3rd-party, split-prism focus screen. I don't recall if I had issues with metering inaccuracy with K/M lenses and the stock screen... been too long since I used it. I'm thinking that the metering is just plain innacurate as the light levels to the sensor drops closer to the sensitivity cutoff. I presume you mean the metering sensor, not the imaging sensor. I don't think this is the case. In the series I presented the other day, the problem becomes apparent well above the point where attenuation by a small lens opening in sunlight should reach the sensor's bottom threshold limit. I'm as certain as I can be without actually seeing the firmware source code that it is a calibration issue for the stop-down metering mode. One further test will confirm this definitively: if I replace the K10D's original focusing screen with the *ist DS models focusing screen, I would expect that the metering calibration will be on the money for the stop-down metering mode and will be off for the open- aperture mode with A-series and later lenses. That will prove the theory. Haven't had time to do the test yet. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
I dragged the image onto the Preview application from the browser window, which allows me to scroll around easily or scale it to fit the screen. I presume something similar exists on Windows systems ... ? Godfrey On May 2, 2007, at 7:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish I could view it smaller, like with minimal scrolling. Then have the option to zoom in. I find it hard to see this way, but it does look nice. http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Temptation...
That thing costs more than my car is worth... Fernando Terrazzino wrote: Why don't you get the autofocus version: http://tinyurl.com/2tk7mc ;-) On 5/2/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received my tax refund check(s). I just missed out in the bidding on an A*300/2.8 And there's currently a $100.00 rebate on the 10-17 fisheye zoom, which seems like a really fun lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
Are they lower because they are short? G On May 2, 2007, at 9:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a photographer looks at his LCD screen, he usually bends forward a bit, giving him the curved spine look of a chimp. If he likes what he sees, he may very well go, ooh, ooh, ooh, much like our lower primate cousins. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Peso LV7 Old rock carvings
He could be both... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Typo Mostly Hairless BTW. Anybody noticed my modified signature? == Yes, for a while I wondered if it was even you. I miss the mostly harmless. Marnie aka Doe :-( - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
In a message dated 5/2/2007 8:58:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? === According to wikipedia... The term 'chimping' was created by Robert Deutsch, a USA Today staff photographer, in September of 1999 when writing a story for the SportsShooter email newsletter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimping Wikipedia comes in handy (when it's right). Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - more bike stuff
I wouldn't want to put up with the angst of being 25 again. The other benefits might be nice, however. :-) Now where was that Way Back Machine... G On May 2, 2007, at 7:36 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I tried that last year, and kinda gave up in the heat. However, after the last Dr. vist Monday, i have talked my self into doing the same as you. All i need is air in the Norco tires and a way we go.After all, i will have some time on my hands soon.:-) I really must loose some weight, or i'll be in trouble in a few years. I tried walking but the arthritis in my toes hinders that to a day or so aweek, which is no good. All that time i attributed it to gout, which i do get, but no its gout and arthritis. Oh to be 25 again.LOL Dave On 5/2/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've convinced myself that if I can shave off 30lbs this summer I'll need a new bike. :-) So I'm looking at a Trek Pilot. Probably the 1.0. Ball-and-chain won't let me spend much more than that. Plans include daily workouts, trips to the grocery store, pulling the kids in a trailer, and the occasional weekend jaunt (without the kids). Anyone have any experience with these? Or should I be considering something else. FWIW, the local shop is a Trek dealer. Thanks! -- Scott Loveless www.twosixteen.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
That's what I suspected, but was not sure, thanks for clarifying On 5/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a photographer looks at his LCD screen, he usually bends forward a bit, giving him the curved spine look of a chimp. If he likes what he sees, he may very well go, ooh, ooh, ooh, much like our lower primate cousins. Paul -- Original message -- From: Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- fernando's photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Temptation...
While I know it's a fine, unique lens, I wouldn't spend the money on something like that. I'd use it for a week and then forget I owned it. I'd use that money to pay for travel somewhere and take more photographs. ;-) Godfrey On May 2, 2007, at 7:39 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I have received my tax refund check(s). I just missed out in the bidding on an A*300/2.8 And there's currently a $100.00 rebate on the 10-17 fisheye zoom, which seems like a really fun lens... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: PESO A recent panorama I dragged the image onto the Preview application from the browser window, which allows me to scroll around easily or scale it to fit the screen. I presume something similar exists on Windows systems ... ? Right click/save. Open in Irfanview. Actually, firefox scaled it to fit when I opened it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO A recent panorama
Nice. I was surprised by the two kayakers in the water. Tom C. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO A recent panorama Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 20:01:14 +1000 Hi Team, Given that digital image capture has diminished landscape photography I thought I'd share a recent snap-shot. The image was captured (that's for Shel) on the South coast of Eastern Australia at Minnamurra Point and shows the Minnamurra village, inlet, Minnamurra Beach and Stack Island as a panorama spanning approximately 126° horizontally. The image was formed by merging seven hand held horizontal format shots at 45mm FL (DA16-45). The image is a testament to the virtues of the K10D SR system given that strapped to the front of me I had my nine month old child who was at the time wildly engaged in an air football match with Mr Nobody. I must admit that this particular rendering is only low resolution as I lazily used the in camera generated jpg files to assemble panorama and by default I have it set to generate 2MP files, it would be much more resolute if I had used the associated RAW files. Warning: This image is not for the limited of bandwidth (approx 2.1MB) or for those who despise scrolling to view an image (7766 x 1149 pixels). http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGK01774-IMGK01780v2.jpg Comments, questions and criticisms welcomed. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
It is interesting that everyone has a different idea of who photographers are. To you, Dave, they are the mass of snapshooters. To Mike they seem to be the average camera club Joes, and to Mark they are the art elite. I would submit that the perceptual cultural level of each of those groups has not changed much over the years, decades, or even centuries. Media for the first has always been sensationalized, the second has always been interested in technical perfection without much imagination, and the last in the long term financial value. Only the last has had the funds to preserve their collections and thus they have become the defacto classics. Of course it has become a lot cheaper to preserve stuff these days, and since the proportions seem to be about 90, 9, and 1% respectively, Elvis and Starwars memorabilia will probably be the art standards of the future. David J Brooks wrote: That could be true Mark. Many of the people i know around here have PS's and are always hitting the local Wally World or Shoppers Drug Mart and printing out all of their pictures as 4x6's except one would quess, the clunkers. Volume rates are $0.19 per, with no developing fees, so i suppose they see it as a cheap way of presenting prints to friends. Dave On 5/1/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom C wrote: I think that's part of Mike's point possibly. The web now seems to be, pretty much, the defacto presentation medium for many photographers, Nope. For most average joes, the print is *still* king, thought it might seem surprising to us. And at the other end of the spectrum, pros and fine art photographers, print is still *the* medium. We in this forum don't perceive this because we're a self-selected group of people who are more web-aware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Temptation...
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Temptation... That thing costs more than my car is worth... It's about 3998 times more than my life would be worth if I bought it... William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
Graywolf wrote: It is interesting that everyone has a different idea of who photographers are. Excellent point. Hence my hesitation in responding more on the thread earlier, as I detected we were all talking about different sets of people. I will say that many people, even those w/o technical mindsets or a photography background readily share their digital images online, w/o getting prints, or prints are an after thought. I can say somewhat the same for myself. I have yet to print any images from my backbacking trip last year and I shared the photos with the other two guys by CD. I will get around to prints of a couple of them. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 One of the guys I went with gave me a stack of 4 x 6 prints back from his disposable, but since photography is largely about seeing and sharing, I think the ease with which one can share photos digitally, which in turn are disseminated to others, is going to make printing a low-volume proposition. I also tend think that most photographers, snapshooter, amateur, pro, with any computer savvy would use the web and digital presentation, online or CD, as their FIRST avenue of getting the picture out there. Back to judging, it's somewhat of a shame. No ill intent towards those of you judges participating in the thread, as we live in a world that often dictates to us. I would guess the 1 to 3 seconds spent on making snap decisions does not do justice to many fine photos, and it allows those with immediate impact to 'make the grade' even though they may be flawed. I see that same syndrome all over in the Pentax gallery being compiled. The digital rush. Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Judging Photos Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 12:08:33 -0400 It is interesting that everyone has a different idea of who photographers are. To you, Dave, they are the mass of snapshooters. To Mike they seem to be the average camera club Joes, and to Mark they are the art elite. I would submit that the perceptual cultural level of each of those groups has not changed much over the years, decades, or even centuries. Media for the first has always been sensationalized, the second has always been interested in technical perfection without much imagination, and the last in the long term financial value. Only the last has had the funds to preserve their collections and thus they have become the defacto classics. Of course it has become a lot cheaper to preserve stuff these days, and since the proportions seem to be about 90, 9, and 1% respectively, Elvis and Starwars memorabilia will probably be the art standards of the future. David J Brooks wrote: That could be true Mark. Many of the people i know around here have PS's and are always hitting the local Wally World or Shoppers Drug Mart and printing out all of their pictures as 4x6's except one would quess, the clunkers. Volume rates are $0.19 per, with no developing fees, so i suppose they see it as a cheap way of presenting prints to friends. Dave On 5/1/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom C wrote: I think that's part of Mike's point possibly. The web now seems to be, pretty much, the defacto presentation medium for many photographers, Nope. For most average joes, the print is *still* king, thought it might seem surprising to us. And at the other end of the spectrum, pros and fine art photographers, print is still *the* medium. We in this forum don't perceive this because we're a self-selected group of people who are more web-aware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
oops, I tried google before but with a complicated search string... now I see On 5/2/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the first google entry that comes up answers your question Fernando Terrazzino wrote: Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
QUESTION: OK let me preface this by saying that I know I could probably get the answer by reading my user manual. However... I have 3 kids uner 5 and they have not given me any time to read. Tom, read them the manual as a bedtime story. They will go to sleep. The answer is in the manual. You want to turn off some of the annoyances that are now built into every electronic product. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: About Chimping
First came to light, when a Mr. C.I. Mpanzee, looked over a photographers shoulder to see his recent portrait shot. Dave On 5/2/07, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious, Anyone knows where the term chimping (as in checking the lcd of your camera) comes from? or who was the first to coin that term? Is it related to our fellow primates? -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Temptation...
You are forgetting shippingcustoms... On 5/2/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Temptation... That thing costs more than my car is worth... It's about 3998 times more than my life would be worth if I bought it... William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD
Hi Joe, You know of course this wasn't me writing, but passing on an anecdote? I may pass on your suggestion though. :-) Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Clueless - on Yahoo Groups *istD Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:12:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00) QUESTION: OK let me preface this by saying that I know I could probably get the answer by reading my user manual. However... I have 3 kids uner 5 and they have not given me any time to read. Tom, read them the manual as a bedtime story. They will go to sleep. The answer is in the manual. You want to turn off some of the annoyances that are now built into every electronic product. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - High Wires
I looked at it for awhile hoping for interest.still waiting. Sorry. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three PESOs in one day, sorry. But it is raining today, it may rain again tomorrow, and class is tomorrow and I am figuring out which pics to show the teacher for my progress to date. I sort of like this and could work it into my series in juxtaposition with another shot. I can also reshoot at the high voltage area. When I was there it was the wrong time of day and I got a lot of lens flare in some directions. But I sort of like this one, anyway. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wires.htm I am curious if it has enough interest or not. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Bird in heavy weather
About a month ago we had pretty heavy weather (Now it is brilliant sunshine and 16degrees C) The Northern Lapwing had just arrived, here then. It had trouble finding food in it's regular spots, so it had to search at the beach. I could'nt help feeling sorry for the little strugler. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=307594 (my good site) K10D K-500/4,5 @ Manfrotto gimbal mount. Aperture not recorded, but I guess about f:8, 1/250s, 800 ISO. I was light on the contrast here. The idea was to keep the impact of the heavy weather. What do you think? There is a thumb with another from the same shoot below. Not as intersting a the first IMO, but I keept it, more as a documentation. Tim Typo Mostly Hairless Note my temporary signature. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Mt. Diablo
Marnie, I, also, think this is a pleasing little pastorial picture of Mt. Diablo. Jack ;) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another picture, same series... The second peak (left) is Mt. Diablo. Or rather one of Mt. Diablo's peaks. In addition to being an interesting mountain, Mt. Diablo is also a California State Park. On the right you can see a gouged area in the hill that was caused by coal strip mining. Once upon a time there was coal mining in the Mt. Diablo area, until about the 1920's when sand mining took over. It is now museum material. That area is directly behind Black Diamond Mines. It probably was a part of Black Diamond Mines, or else it was a completely different mine. Mt. Diablo State Park acquired the remains of some coal mines in the 1970's. So I suspect that hillside is also the boundary of Mt. Diablo State Park. I think this is a pleasing little pastoral picture of Mt. Diablo. ;-) http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/diablo.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird in heavy weather
On 5/2/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About a month ago we had pretty heavy weather (Now it is brilliant sunshine and 16degrees C) The Northern Lapwing had just arrived, here then. It had trouble finding food in it's regular spots, so it had to search at the beach. I could'nt help feeling sorry for the little strugler. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=307594 (my good site) K10D K-500/4,5 @ Manfrotto gimbal mount. Aperture not recorded, but I guess about f:8, 1/250s, 800 ISO. I was light on the contrast here. The idea was to keep the impact of the heavy weather. What do you think? Poor little guy. I never figure how birds survive the cold weather. Good shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO A recent panorama
On May 2, 2007, at 9:22 AM, William Robb wrote: Actually, firefox scaled it to fit when I opened it. Yes, FireFox does the same here. But it's not my standard browser. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Judging Photos
I think this phenomenon is more with the younger set. Where I live, most of the book stores have gone out of business - just Borders is left and an odd store here and there. They all seem to sell more music, videos and gifts than they do books, though. It is even in the technology. When we were younger, you had to listen to music on either tape or vinyl records. The means of skipping around between songs was clumsy at best. So we mostly listened to the whole thing once started. With the advent of CD players and now Ipods, it is very interesting to watch the young ones. They switch between songs constantly and rarely listen to the whole song - just catching the 20-30 seconds that is really 'cool' to them. Sound bites online and on cell phones, video clips online and on ipods, all encourage short 'bursts' of information. Since this goes on pretty heavily, making your burst stand out is tricky. Food for thought. -- Bruce Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 8:44:07 AM, you wrote: g Well if you watch TV instead of reading. As for no one reading, how do g all those book stores stay in business. However, I will agree that there g are a lot of so called technical books that kind of give you g ionformation that way, and without the sound bites. g Bruce Dayton wrote: Didn't this already start to happen when Velvia came on the scene to give us that over-the-top punchy color in slides? I'm sure our viewing mediums have had some impact, but so has our social environment. Today, information is thrown at us in a very fast, concentrated way. All the media types do it - short, fast commercials, movies instead of books, etc. So to stand out from the crowd - there has to be something catchy. Photography is just a follow on to that. Some of my thoughts... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Speaking of judging photos...
I don't recall being asked anything like this. So I'll answer on-list here... Dario Bonazza wrote: To make things as simple as possible, just fill the complete list of all 25 entries (below) with your score for each picture (1 = lowest, 10 = highest). Please try and use all the figures 1 to 10, OK? I mean that 1 should be the score for the worse picture(s) among these entries and 10 should be for the best picture(s) submitted here: http://www.dariobonazza.com/provv/Street.htm So here goes: AL_1 = 5 AL_2 = 8 AL_3 = 3 DA_1 = 5 DA_2 = 1 DA_3 = 10 FA_1 = 3 FA_2 = 7 FA_3 = 4 GE_1 = 3 GE_2 = 3 GE_3 = 3 LE_1 = 5 LE_2 = 8 LE_3 = 8 NI_1 = 10 PH_1 = 5 PH_2 = 5 PH_3 = 7 RE_1 = 9 RE_2 = 8 RE_3 = 3 RO_1 = 10 RO_2 = 10 RO_3 = 10 Hope that makes at least some sense. Dario, you have to understand two things: 1. I did not read anyone else's responses before producing mine, which I think would be honest and somewhat brutal. 2. I may come up with different ratings if I try again tomorrow or any other time for that matter. I am rarely certain when I look at good photography. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - more bike stuff
Scott Loveless wrote: I've convinced myself that if I can shave off 30lbs this summer I'll need a new bike. :-) So I'm looking at a Trek Pilot. Probably the 1.0. Ball-and-chain won't let me spend much more than that. Plans include daily workouts, trips to the grocery store, pulling the kids in a trailer, and the occasional weekend jaunt (without the kids). Anyone have any experience with these? Or should I be considering something else. FWIW, the local shop is a Trek dealer. Thanks! I can shave off 30lbs by getting rid of my mustache. Do I get a new bike? Oh, and Adam? Low end roadie: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3663046 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird in heavy weather
On 5/2/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About a month ago we had pretty heavy weather (Now it is brilliant sunshine and 16degrees C) The Northern Lapwing had just arrived, here then. It had trouble finding food in it's regular spots, so it had to search at the beach. I could'nt help feeling sorry for the little strugler. http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=307594 (my good site) K10D K-500/4,5 @ Manfrotto gimbal mount. Aperture not recorded, but I guess about f:8, 1/250s, 800 ISO. I was light on the contrast here. The idea was to keep the impact of the heavy weather. What do you think? Poor little guy. I never figure how birds survive the cold weather. They drink Wild Turkey.:-) The focus point seems to be the bit of seaweed infront of the bird.Bird is a bit soft because of that. Dave Good shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
