Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Brian Walters
Well, if I list all of my Pentax film cameras it will be a *very* sad list.  
I'm a collecter so I have quite a number of them, including lots of Espios that 
I picked up for a few bucks each.  

But, if I restrict myself to those that I've actually used more than once or 
twice, the list goes something like this.

ES
Spotmatic F
KX
Super A
P50
SFXn
Z20
MZ-5
Espio 105SW
Zoom 70

I've just has a nice Spotmatic II refurbished so there'll be a roll or two of 
film going through that shortly.

Then there's the non-Pentax contingent - Konica Autoreflex T3, Olympus Ace E, 
Olympus Trip 35, Zeiss Ikon Nettar 518/16

Am I sad or what


Cheers

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Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Here is a sad survery.
 How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if
 ever, 
 using?
 
 List by model and number if you like.
 
 Reply in confidence to
 
 warobb at accesscomm.ca
 
 I'll tally them up and post numbers, but not names when I have
 something.
 
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Re: PESO 2007 - 50a - GDG

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 06/12/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Another from Nu Yawk ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/50a.htm

Comments, critique, etc always appreciated.

Robert Frank eat yer heart out. GREAT shot.

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 16:20:18 +, Cotty wrote
 On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 3x KX one silver, one black  one for spares
 3x MX all silver, all working.
 1x LX
 2x Super A's c/w motordrives  MEII winders.
 2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs.
 1x 645
 
 Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day!

I'll be taking an MX or two with me then 8)

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 06/12/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nope.  That's my cold dead hands film camera.  It was my first K-mount
body (thirty years ago - how time flies ...), and I was lucky enough to
pick up a New In Box motor drive about ten years ago.
My second MX was bought purely as a spare in case the first one dies.

Same here. I bought my MX (black) in 1979 from Techno in the Euston Road
(London) for either 106 or 104 GBP, body only. Also a 28mm 2.8 on the
same day, although I can't remember the price of the lens. Drives,
winders, more bodies have come and gone since then, but the camera and
lens (and a winder) sit retired on a shelf with a couple of other cameras.

I'll be buried with the MX ;-)

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Re: OT: Hummingbirds of Southern California

2007-12-07 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Bob

That's interesting, but not alltogether surprising.  The friend who sent me the 
link operates an Australian native plant nursery at Casitas Springs, near 
Ventura.  I understand that Roy Dunn is a customer (another expat trying to 
revive memories of home?...)



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Quoting Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 (Brian Walters, you'd be proud to know the guy is an Ozzie by
 birth.)
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 
  On Dec 6, 2007 2:17 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Hi all
  
   A friend of mine in California sent me this link.  Some
 spectacular photos here.
  
  
   http://www.yoricinc.com/hummers/content/index.html
  
  
  
   Apologies if this has been posted before.
  
  
  
   Cheers
  
   Brian
  
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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread David Savage
On Dec 7, 2007 11:31 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 07/12/07, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

 While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian
 local Pentax retailer - Photopoint, I'd found today 2 full-frame FA 31mm
 f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign of next
 pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor

 Get back on the Vodka pal, let's have some more predictions, I need a
 good laugh ;-)

I predict that Cotty's hat will taste like chicken.

:-D

Cheers,

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 7, 2007, at 6:48 AM, David Savage wrote:

 While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian
 local Pentax retailer - Photopoint, I'd found today 2 full-frame  
 FA 31mm
 f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign  
 of next
 pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor

 Get back on the Vodka pal, let's have some more predictions, I need a
 good laugh ;-)

 I predict that Cotty's hat will taste like chicken.

Oh, I don't know. More likely iguana.

G

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Re: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 7, 2007, at 6:44 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 Maybe it's because I'm a reformed smoker, but the ritual of smoking
 fascinates me.  Maybe because it's so irrational:

 http://tinyurl.com/244pzx

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzhRgETQoII/A9E/ 
 DEFbPhI4LMY/s1600-h/nov_12+001.jpg

A good 'streety' look to this one. Only quibble is that the rendering  
on skin tones is a bit flat and muddy: a brush up with a touch more  
contrast there would improve it.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO 2007 - 50a - GDG

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Bob!

I haven't rendered it to BW ... the flag's bold colors are too much  
a part of the photo for me in this one thus far. But maybe I'll give  
it a shot ... :-)

Godfrey

On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Bob W wrote:

 Very good - what's it like in BW? I suspect it might be very Robert
 Frank in bw.

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/50a.htm


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Re: Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 02:51:56 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Full-frame Pentax?
 
 The FA Limiteds are once again widely available, but have been for a
 number of months. Along with the D-FA macros and maybe the FA 50/1.4
 these are the ONLY FF lenses with a future, as the replacement for the
 FA 35/2 is on the roadmap, and the DA* 55 may replace the FA 50.
 
 5 primes do not a lens line make.

They do at Zenitar.


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PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
Maybe it's because I'm a reformed smoker, but the ritual of smoking
fascinates me.  Maybe because it's so irrational:

http://tinyurl.com/244pzx

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzhRgETQoII/A9E/DEFbPhI4LMY/s1600-h/nov_12+001.jpg

Comments always welcome.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 07/12/07, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian 
local Pentax retailer - Photopoint, I'd found today 2 full-frame FA 31mm 
f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign of next 
pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor

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Re: PESO: My Wallpaper

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
I considered cloning out those bubbles, but thought they might add to
the 'scents' of the scene. (rim shot)
Thanks for comments.

Jack
--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are those goose gas bubbles in the fore ground.
 
 :-)
 
 Looks like nice wallpaper
 
 Dave
 
 On Dec 6, 2007 7:17 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=272
 
  Comments happily received!
 
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Re: Why I buy locally (happy guy)

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 6, 2007 7:24 PM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A good local store is worth it's weight in gold.

 I'm lucky, I've got good relationships with 2 different stores.

I keep my relationship down to one store(newmarket). I can't afford a
wife AND two camera stores.

Dave

 -Adam


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  I've come to praise my local camera store, not bury it.
 
  Some of you have seen my plaintive rant about how my DS is not
  functioning well with my Sandisk Ultra II cards I've just purchased.
 
  I went to the store where I purchased my camera, ready to plead my
  case for why my extended warranty (which had just expired) ought to be
  extended enough to cover this issue.
 
  I was just about done with outlining the problems I'd been having for
  a while - pointing out that they had started long before the warranty
  had expired, when the manager of the store came up behind the clerk I
  was talking to and said 3-4 weeks?  We can make that work
 
  Then - this is great - he prints out my original purchase information
  and it shows that my extended warranty is good until November of
  2008.  I was OFF by a year.
 
  And even better: As he strolled back from the printer, he stopped at
  the used camera cabinet, pulled out an istDL, and brought it back with
  him. It could take a couple of months for your camera to come back,
  so you can use this in the meantime.
 
  Wow!
 
  So, the total time for me to stop, explain my case, and be out of the
  store with a functioning (interim) camera was just over 10 minutes.
  It is clear to me that if I am going to purchase a Pentax someday to
  upgrade my DS, it's going to be at that store and I'll probably cough
  up the extra $100 for the extended warranty again.  I carry this one
  camera (or its future replacement) around way too much to want to risk
  it screwing it up.
 
  There are those who will argue that the extended warranty is a waste
  of money, but in my case it has paid off.  So do what your heart tells
  you, but I sure know what works for me and my peace of mind!
 
-Charles
 
  PS: The store was National Camera Exchange in Golden Valley, MN.  I'd
  recommend them to anyone in this neck of the woods who wants/needs
  Pentax stuff.  yay!
 
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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Cotty
On 07/12/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

BTW, gorgeous woman!  Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some
French Tart on the Beach?

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 7, 2007 4:37 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip:
 http://www.web-options.com/aotb.jpg

 I must have had a cheap tele zoom lens. The slide obviously needs
 cleaning.

Looks perfectly sharp to me!

:-)

BTW, gorgeous woman!  Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some
French Tart on the Beach?

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 7, 2007 8:58 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 BTW, gorgeous woman!  Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some
 French Tart on the Beach?

Oops!

Just re-read your post, Bob, and I see she's no FTotB...

cheers,
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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
ME Super
Super Program

They were in a camera shop counter case for months with no interest.
Also, tried each on eBay twice. Nothing!

Jack
--- David S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 William Robb wrote:
  Here is a sad survery.
  How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if
 ever, 
  using?
  
  List by model and number if you like.
  
  Reply in confidence to
  
  warobb at accesscomm.ca
  
  I'll tally them up and post numbers, but not names when I have
 something.
  
  William Robb 
  
  
 
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 PZ1
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Re: Why I buy locally (happy guy)

2007-12-07 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 7, 2007, at 6:50, Thibouille wrote:

 If I remember well (you might want to contact Sandisk about that
 issue) there is an easy way to recognize those fake cards, something
 like the serial number or something else.

 IMO you should contact Sandisk.


I did, and even got an RMA for one of the cards before realizing that  
the problem happens with other Sandisk cards as well.

I'm still torn about whether or not to even bother sending the RMA'ed  
card in.  Part of me thinks I should, as insurance and the other  
part thinks it would be a waste of time.

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Re: Why I buy locally (happy guy)

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
If I remember well (you might want to contact Sandisk about that
issue) there is an easy way to recognize those fake cards, something
like the serial number or something else.

IMO you should contact Sandisk.

On Dec 7, 2007 4:09 AM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 6, 2007, at 19:14, Bob Sullivan wrote:

  Charles,
  That's great for you.
  I still wonder if you have a good card or a broken one/fake one.

 1st one was from Costco, 2nd was from Radio Shack.  Odds of them both
 being counterfeits are pretty slim!

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
To what country would it be shipped? 
In a fit of honesty, the ISO ring allows the setting to vary at times,
so needs to be checked (jiggled) from time to time. This is pretty much
standard with a used unit.
Cosmetically and operationally (except for ISO ring glitch) in very
good condition. 
$80.00 including shipping. (US only).

Jack
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 On Dec 7, 2007 9:37 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ME Super
  Super Program
 
  They were in a camera shop counter case for months with no
 interest.
  Also, tried each on eBay twice. Nothing!
 
 Anyone here with equipment that is both unused and unsaleable
 should consider donating it to Baba, or perhaps a local school.
 
 On the other hand, I could use a cheap ME Super, especially if
 there's a wide angle with it. I once had an ME and really liked it,
 but it was stolen. What do you want for it?
 
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Re: PESO 2007 - 50a - GDG

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/50a.htm

On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:54 AM, Cotty wrote:
 Robert Frank eat yer heart out. GREAT shot.


On Dec 7, 2007, at 6:37 AM, frank theriault wrote:
 Stunning work!


:-) Thanks Cotty and Frank!

Godfrey

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Adam Maas
The FA Limiteds are once again widely available, but have been for a
number of months. Along with the D-FA macros and maybe the FA 50/1.4
these are the ONLY FF lenses with a future, as the replacement for the
FA 35/2 is on the roadmap, and the DA* 55 may replace the FA 50.

5 primes do not a lens line make.

-Adam

On 12/7/07, Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian
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 f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign of next
 pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor built or just
 coincidence and increasing pentaxian population demands better lenses
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Re: speaking of old and mouldering Pentax bodies ...

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
not really based on an MX apart from the shape maybe, but as most M?
cameras, MV1 was an auto-aperture only camera, as well as MV ME and
MG. Of course those all had electronic shutter but B and X-speed which
were mechanical if I'm not mistaken.

In fact I never understood why Pentax made so many very similar
cameras. Something like ist-d serie cameras... very very subtle
differences.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Cardboard chicken?

David Savage wrote:
 On Dec 7, 2007 11:31 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On 07/12/07, Roman Melihhov, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian
 local Pentax retailer - Photopoint, I'd found today 2 full-frame FA 31mm
 f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign of next
 pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor
   
 Get back on the Vodka pal, let's have some more predictions, I need a
 good laugh ;-)
 

 I predict that Cotty's hat will taste like chicken.

 :-D

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Sandy Harris
On Dec 7, 2007 9:37 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ME Super
 Super Program

 They were in a camera shop counter case for months with no interest.
 Also, tried each on eBay twice. Nothing!

Anyone here with equipment that is both unused and unsaleable
should consider donating it to Baba, or perhaps a local school.

On the other hand, I could use a cheap ME Super, especially if
there's a wide angle with it. I once had an ME and really liked it,
but it was stolen. What do you want for it?

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
* Z1 but just bought a new 2CR5 for it to play again ;)
* P30t.. superceded in all areas by my other cameras.
* KR10x used only as body I would not regret in any way if broken
(read, bad weather or other risks)
* MX not much used but at very stable interval
* SuperA much like the MX but a couple weeks ago I decided to use it
again with the Sigma 18/3.5 I got from Boris :)

Z1/P30/KR10X are really not used much ...

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RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
 
 On 07/12/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 BTW, gorgeous woman!  Is that your then-girlfriend, or just some
 French Tart on the Beach?
 
 Knowing Bob a bit, both.
 

Hmmph! She was my girlfriend, and not at all French. Or tarty.

In fact, we're still friends, 28 years on.

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Re: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
By the blur, it looks like a drive by shooting.:-)

I like this one Frank, the motion blur seems to give it a sense of  I
gotta do this fast, its cold

I smoked up until 1971. Rolled my own Cameo menthol for years. Dad
smoked 4-5 large packs of Export A a day, and i lent him one of mine
one day. He coughed anh hacked and could not finish it. I quit the
next day.:-)

Peter, i got in a bit of trouble years ago in regards to the time
smokers we're out side smoking and not working. I suggested us non
smokers could leave an hour early which would equal the time smokers
went out side. I was told i was not a team player.:-0

That was after 28 years, and i managed to hang on for 34

LOL

Dave

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 http://tinyurl.com/244pzx

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzhRgETQoII/A9E/DEFbPhI4LMY/s1600-h/nov_12+001.jpg

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
no.

On Dec 7, 2007 2:53 PM, Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian
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 pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor built or just
 coincidence and increasing pentaxian population demands better lenses
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RE: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
Excellent photo!

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 Subject: PESO - Sparking One Up
 
 Maybe it's because I'm a reformed smoker, but the ritual of smoking
 fascinates me.  Maybe because it's so irrational:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/244pzx
 
 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzhRgETQoII/A9E/DE
 FbPhI4LMY/s1600-h/nov_12+001.jpg
 
 Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20:18 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey
 
 On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 3x KX one silver, one black  one for spares
 3x MX all silver, all working.
 1x LX
 2x Super A's c/w motordrives  MEII winders.
 2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs.
 1x 645
 
 Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day!

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Re: PESO: My Wallpaper

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 6, 2007 7:17 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=272

 Comments happily received!


Gorgeous!

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Brian Walters
Well, that should be an interesting research project for some 22nd century 
archaeologist


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO: My Wallpaper

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 7, 2007 9:38 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I considered cloning out those bubbles, but thought they might add to
 the 'scents' of the scene. (rim shot)

Sorry Jack, could not resist that one.:-)

Dave
 Thanks for comments.

 Jack

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  Are those goose gas bubbles in the fore ground.
 
  :-)
 
  Looks like nice wallpaper
 
  Dave
 
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   Comments happily received!
  
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RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Cotty
 Sent: 07 December 2007 08:53
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey
 
 On 06/12/07, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Nope.  That's my cold dead hands film camera.  It was my 
 first K-mount
 body (thirty years ago - how time flies ...), and I was 
 lucky enough to
 pick up a New In Box motor drive about ten years ago.
 My second MX was bought purely as a spare in case the first one
dies.
 
 Same here. I bought my MX (black) in 1979 from Techno in the 
 Euston Road
 (London) for either 106 or 104 GBP, body only. Also a 28mm 2.8 on
the
 same day, although I can't remember the price of the lens. Drives,
 winders, more bodies have come and gone since then, but the camera
and
 lens (and a winder) sit retired on a shelf with a couple of 
 other cameras.
 
 I'll be buried with the MX ;-)
 

you got a bargain. I bought mine in 1979 for £125- from a shop in
Leeds. I gave up smoking for a year to get the money together. It's
now in my safe with my Contaxes. I've also had several other MXs over
the years, but have always hung on to the original, and suspect I
always will.

I bought it because I was planning to hitchhike around Europe with a
girlfriend for a few months, and I wanted something better than my
first SLR, a Zenith. Here's a picture taken with the MX of the
aforementiond gf, running along a beach somewhere in the S of France
(Gruissan or Cap d'Agde, I think):
http://www.web-options.com/aotb.jpg

I must have had a cheap tele zoom lens. The slide obviously needs
cleaning.

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Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Joseph Tainter
http://stock-photo.blogspot.com/2007/11/pentax-k20d-on-show-at-pma-2008.html

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:38:02 +, mike wilson wrote
  
  From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20:18 GMT
  To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey
  
  On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  3x KX one silver, one black  one for spares
  3x MX all silver, all working.
  1x LX
  2x Super A's c/w motordrives  MEII winders.
  2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs.
  1x 645
  
  Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day!
 
 Don't forget the Ducati.  He's there already.

No, you're mistaken, that's heaven!

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Re: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Sorry this one just doesn't grab me.

frank theriault wrote:
 Maybe it's because I'm a reformed smoker, but the ritual of smoking
 fascinates me.  Maybe because it's so irrational:

 http://tinyurl.com/244pzx

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzhRgETQoII/A9E/DEFbPhI4LMY/s1600-h/nov_12+001.jpg

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:39:10 -0500, Scott Loveless wrote
 Cotty wrote:
  On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  3x KX one silver, one black  one for spares
  3x MX all silver, all working.
  1x LX
  2x Super A's c/w motordrives  MEII winders.
  2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs.
  1x 645
  
  Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day!
  
 Yeah, but he doesn't have a special level of the Abyss set aside 
 just for him.  Butcher.


ROTFLMAO!

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RE: PESO 2007 - 50a - GDG

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
Very good - what's it like in BW? I suspect it might be very Robert
Frank in bw.

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 Another from Nu Yawk ...
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/50a.htm
 
 Comments, critique, etc always appreciated.
 
 enjoy
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RE: PESO: bowling this monday :D

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
that's not bowling. This is bowling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZBjhTd4Z9Mfeature=related

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 Me and my ex-co-workers had a party this monday and the pub had 2 
 bowling fields... In the pause I took this shot:
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Re: PESO: My Wallpaper

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
Are those goose gas bubbles in the fore ground.

:-)

Looks like nice wallpaper

Dave

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 03:44:06 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey
 
 On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:38:02 +, mike wilson wrote
   
   From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20:18 GMT
   To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
   Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey
   
   On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:
   
   3x KX one silver, one black  one for spares
   3x MX all silver, all working.
   1x LX
   2x Super A's c/w motordrives  MEII winders.
   2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs.
   1x 645
   
   Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day!
  
  Don't forget the Ducati.  He's there already.
 
 No, you're mistaken, that's heaven!

_You_ think it is.  That's the nature of Hell.  At first


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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Adam Maas
None,

In fact I've only got 2 35mm cameras at present, a Nikon F2a and a
Minolta Maxxum 7. The llatter was part of a planned move to Sony, but
my dissatisfaction with Minolta/Sony metering (Their matrix meter is
useless) put a hold on that. So the Maxxum 7 is for sale ($200 w/
35-70 f4 if anyone's interested, I've also got a 24-105 f3.5-4.5 D and
28/2.8 for it)

I sold off my last Pentax film gear (A Spotmatic  a Chinon CM-3) to
pay for my DS a couple months ago.

I'm still shooting film, just not 35mm much these days. Quite happy
with my Mamiya 645's though.

-Adam

 William Robb pisze:
  Here is a sad survery.
  How many Pentax film cameras do you have that you are rarely, if ever,
  using?
 
  List by model and number if you like.
 
  Reply in confidence to
 
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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 7, 2007 11:01 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 02:59:50 GMT
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Re: Full-frame Pentax?
 
 
  
   From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 02:51:56 GMT
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   Subject: Re: Full-frame Pentax?
  
   The FA Limiteds are once again widely available, but have been for a
   number of months. Along with the D-FA macros and maybe the FA 50/1.4
   these are the ONLY FF lenses with a future, as the replacement for the
   FA 35/2 is on the roadmap, and the DA* 55 may replace the FA 50.
  
   5 primes do not a lens line make.
 
  They do at Zenitar.

They make the 16mm fish eye in five different mounts.:-)

 In fact, Pentax managed with three.


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speaking of old and mouldering Pentax bodies ...

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Is the Pentax MV-1 any good? reliable? It looks like an auto-exposure- 
only version of the MX ... ??

A guy at the photo store yesterday had one and I thought it looked  
pretty nice.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Why all the vitriol, Bob? It's just a camera. If you don't want one,  
don't need what it offers above and beyond the K10D or feel that it  
doesn't suit your needs, just ignore it. If you want something else,  
sell what you have and buy that instead.

I just don't understand all this pissing and moaning. Life's too short.

G

On Dec 7, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Bob Blakely wrote:

 God damn it!

 My reaction is visceral!

 I suppose 14 megapixels, a bigger screen and live view is nice, but  
 what I
 have in the K10D works great for me in the digital arena and since  
 I have
 two of them, I won't be buying to upgrade. Period! Even if it  
 came out at
 the same price as the current K10D!

 These cameras are not works of art in themselves ala the spotmatic,  
 MX, LX,
 etc., and so will have the life of a computer. They'll be no such  
 thing as a
 2005 model, as bargain old model on sale will be marked circa  
 10:30 AM.

 The handiest camera size (physically) for me is generally about the  
 current
 size of 35 mm cameras. This means that the available space inside  
 the light
 box for a sensor is about what we call full frame. That's the  
 sensor real
 estate I want, and It's the only real estate I'll buy from now on.  
 For a
 full frame at ~15 megapixels or better body from Pentax I'd pay ~ 
 $2500 . If
 Pentax can't make it available in the next year or so, you may well  
 find all
 my gear on ebay as I build the capital to buy the bodies with the  
 full frame
 sensors I want and the lenses to go with them.

 Sh*t

 They can put a K20D up their butt to look for polyps!

 Regards,
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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
I don't think you guys get it.
Pentax makes money selling lenses.
They have been crippled by having too much good product already in
consumer hands.

So now digital comes along and the crop changes.
This is a great opportunity to replace the whole lens line-up with new stuff.
The consumer will buy new (good for Pentax) and get modern,
lightweight, autofocus designs.
Pentax will get more income and lose the burden of all this backward
compatibility.

Once the 1.5X crop factors lens line is complete, and everybody is buying them,
Pentax will launch the Full Frame camera and switch back to full frame lenses.
But now the full frame stuff will be lightweight, autofocus with focus
touch-up, and
no messy aperture settings.

So in the next 10 years, you will need to purchase 2 new, complete
lines of lenses.
The first is just coming out now... fast, zooms, some with USM's and
highly praised.
The second will come out once we get to a Full Frame sensor.
The features will be updated, and of course they will cover a full frame sensor.

It's just strategy folks, nothing personal...

Regards, Bob S.


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 The FA Limiteds are once again widely available, but have been for a
 number of months. Along with the D-FA macros and maybe the FA 50/1.4
 these are the ONLY FF lenses with a future, as the replacement for the
 FA 35/2 is on the roadmap, and the DA* 55 may replace the FA 50.

 5 primes do not a lens line make.

 -Adam


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  While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian
  local Pentax retailer - Photopoint, I'd found today 2 full-frame FA 31mm
  f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign of next
  pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor built or just
  coincidence and increasing pentaxian population demands better lenses
  for their bodies.
 
  These two are amazing pieces of glass anyway.
 
 
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Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Roman Melihhov
While other FA lenses has been eliminated from the stock of Estonian 
local Pentax retailer - Photopoint, I'd found today 2 full-frame FA 31mm 
f1.8 and FA 77mm f1.8 Limited lenses added. This could be a sign of next 
pentax be either FF or larger than APS-C cropped sensor built or just 
coincidence and increasing pentaxian population demands better lenses 
for their bodies.

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Maybe, just maybe

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
There is about a foot of snow on the ground and its a winter wonder
land out there again today, with some modest snow fall and o/c
conditions.

Maybe, just maybe, i'll finish that roll of t-max 400 in the 6x7 today.

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Re: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread P. J. Alling
I love smokers.  Whenever I'm in a corporate environment, I check on the 
number of times they go outside for smoke breaks.  Then take half as 
many,  going out into nature to just stare at the sky.  It does 
wonders for the mental health.

Jack Davis wrote:
 Probably because I wanted to 'fit in', I did that for some 20 years.
 Now I notice the ritual and imperceptibly shake my head in wonderment. 
 Incidentally, this type of motion exposure enhances my headache. ]-/

 Jack
 --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Maybe it's because I'm a reformed smoker, but the ritual of smoking
 fascinates me.  Maybe because it's so irrational:

 http://tinyurl.com/244pzx


 
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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Mark Roberts
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Who has a 14 megapixel APS CMOS sensor?

It's probably the Pentax-designed sensor we've been hearing about for a 
few years, with manufacturing done by some large semiconductor maker.

I'm disappointed that it's APS-sized - I'd much prefer fewer pixels in 
a larger area - but I won't damn its performance in advance like so 
many did with the K10D. (I ordered a K10D about 15 minutes after it 
first appeared on the BH web site!)

Still, I'm nervous enough about 14MP/APS that, unlike the K10D, I'll 
wait until there are some solid test reports from users before I spend 
my money. I'm very happy with my K10D so I can afford to be cautious.

In fact, the biggest obstacle to the success of the K20D (or whatever) 
may be that the K10D is going to be a tough act to follow.


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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread P. J. Alling
There's resent speculation that the sensor is Canon APS-H  more or 
less with a 1.25-1.3 crop factor.  I didn't save the link.  However I 
feel better about having not yet bought a K10D as I may simply skip a 
generation and go to the K20D, if the high ISO noise characteristics are 
reasonable, (if not I should be able to get quite a bargain on either a 
used or remaindered K10D).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let the whining begin. I can't imagine why you ever expected full frame. I 
 think I'll wait to see how good this camera is or isn't before I make 
 definitive decisions. But it sounds damn good on paper.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 God damn it!

 My reaction is visceral!

 I suppose 14 megapixels, a bigger screen and live view is nice, but what I 
 have in the K10D works great for me in the digital arena and since I have 
 two of them, I won't be buying to upgrade. Period! Even if it came out at 
 the same price as the current K10D!

 These cameras are not works of art in themselves ala the spotmatic, MX, LX, 
 etc., and so will have the life of a computer. They'll be no such thing as a 
 2005 model, as bargain old model on sale will be marked circa 10:30 AM.

 The handiest camera size (physically) for me is generally about the current 
 size of 35 mm cameras. This means that the available space inside the light 
 box for a sensor is about what we call full frame. That's the sensor real 
 estate I want, and It's the only real estate I'll buy from now on. For a 
 full frame at ~15 megapixels or better body from Pentax I'd pay ~$2500 . If 
 Pentax can't make it available in the next year or so, you may well find all 
 my gear on ebay as I build the capital to buy the bodies with the full frame 
 sensors I want and the lenses to go with them.

 Sh*t

 They can put a K20D up their butt to look for polyps!

 Regards,
 Bob...
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 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
 but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread pnstenquist
Let the whining begin. I can't imagine why you ever expected full frame. I 
think I'll wait to see how good this camera is or isn't before I make 
definitive decisions. But it sounds damn good on paper.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 God damn it!
 
 My reaction is visceral!
 
 I suppose 14 megapixels, a bigger screen and live view is nice, but what I 
 have in the K10D works great for me in the digital arena and since I have 
 two of them, I won't be buying to upgrade. Period! Even if it came out at 
 the same price as the current K10D!
 
 These cameras are not works of art in themselves ala the spotmatic, MX, LX, 
 etc., and so will have the life of a computer. They'll be no such thing as a 
 2005 model, as bargain old model on sale will be marked circa 10:30 AM.
 
 The handiest camera size (physically) for me is generally about the current 
 size of 35 mm cameras. This means that the available space inside the light 
 box for a sensor is about what we call full frame. That's the sensor real 
 estate I want, and It's the only real estate I'll buy from now on. For a 
 full frame at ~15 megapixels or better body from Pentax I'd pay ~$2500 . If 
 Pentax can't make it available in the next year or so, you may well find all 
 my gear on ebay as I build the capital to buy the bodies with the full frame 
 sensors I want and the lenses to go with them.
 
 Sh*t
 
 They can put a K20D up their butt to look for polyps!
 
 Regards,
 Bob...
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 Note: No trees were killed in the sending of this message,
 but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
 
 From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: PESO: Spancer aka Kitty Claus

2007-12-07 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:

On Dec 6, 2007 8:30 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

He was not a happy camper :-)

Walt

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Fun pic!

I don't think my Patches would be that calm about the whole thing...

;-)

cheers,
frank
  


Ashley definitely would not --
last year I made this xmas card --  I'm a bit better at photoshop now, 
but in a way my clumsiness at it
might add to the joke

http://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff.89477535

 really have to update my cafepress stuff  

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FS Friday: random items

2007-12-07 Thread Amita Guha
Here is a link to my ebay auctions for this week:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbfift2girl

Pentax S80-80 lens case for D-FA 50mm Macro or 55mm f/2.8
Pentax PH-RBB lens hood for SMCP-DA 50-200mm lens

Nikkor 70-210mm f/4 constant aperture zoom
Nikon Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G
Nikon FA Film Camera

Canon 100-300 5.6l Macro Zoom

Amita

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
  I may simply skip a
 generation and go to the K20D, if the high ISO noise characteristics  
 are
 reasonable, (if not I should be able to get quite a bargain on  
 either a
 used or remaindered K10D).


That's sort of my game plan, unless the K200D or whatever it will be  
called is a nice-enough improvement over the DS.

  -Charles

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FS Friday: Battery Protrait Grip for istD. $110 + shipping

2007-12-07 Thread John Bailey
Condition is like new.

Pics here:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2172/2085047171_e77953a3ac_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2085047177_c3d6af6b61_o.jpg
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Re: PESO: Spancer aka Kitty Claus

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 6, 2007 8:30 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 He was not a happy camper :-)

 Walt

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/20071206-_IGP4143.jpg

Fun pic!

I don't think my Patches would be that calm about the whole thing...

;-)

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FS Friday: Photo Affiliates wanted

2007-12-07 Thread Francis
Hi folks.
(Is the fs Friday thing is just for photo gear, or is other photography 
related merchandising acceptable? If the former please disregard this 
message.)

Adam (my brother) and I have built an affiliate system for our photo 
website so that any interested party can pick out their favorite shots 
and display thumbnails of them on their blog or website, getting a hefty 
cut every time they refer a customer.

I know you guys have little reason to display someone else's photos on 
your site, but I would be for any suggestions or comments you have on it.
The urls are:
Sign up page: http://www.islandlight.ca/affiliate-signup.php
Site running it: http://joshuamckenty.blogspot.com/

Thanks for having a look,
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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
They already started: Canon offers a 18-55 ISwhich by the way is a
good lens (can you beleive that?) and Nikon also went with a 50-200
VR.

On Dec 8, 2007 7:06 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2007 12:51 PM, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Dec 8, 2007 11:05 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Pentax doesn't keep up with Canon/Nikon on the leading edge of technology.
 
  Canon and Nikon are not keeping up with Olympus and Pentax. When
  will they release cameras within-body anti-shake?

 They'll just start putting the feature in their consumer grade lenses.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread P. J. Alling
And raise prices on each lens by a reasonable percentage.

David Savage wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2007 12:51 PM, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Dec 8, 2007 11:05 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Pentax doesn't keep up with Canon/Nikon on the leading edge of technology.
   
 Canon and Nikon are not keeping up with Olympus and Pentax. When
 will they release cameras within-body anti-shake?
 

 They'll just start putting the feature in their consumer grade lenses.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread David Savage
On Dec 8, 2007 12:51 PM, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 8, 2007 11:05 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Pentax doesn't keep up with Canon/Nikon on the leading edge of technology.

 Canon and Nikon are not keeping up with Olympus and Pentax. When
 will they release cameras within-body anti-shake?

They'll just start putting the feature in their consumer grade lenses.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Thibouille
if their noise reduction algoritms are the same as in the E510, NR at
high ISO is crap, as far as I could see on the samples I could look
at.
I sincerely hope Olympus did better with the E3 (no I did NOT look at
E3 samples).

Concerning the noise of the coming 14Mpix sensor, nobody said it used
the usual technology the others use ;) It should not be noiser than
the Sony 12Mpix, maybe better.

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Re: PESO: a prickly proposition

2007-12-07 Thread Alastair Robertson
thanks Bob - I like the effect that the long focal length of the Sigma
has on macro subjects.  With extension rings you can get close to 1:1
macro

Alastair

On Dec 8, 2007 6:14 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very nice Alastair.
 I particularly like the soft creamy background and the flower
 blossoms, especially the blues.
 The sharp bee and thorny stems are an excellent contrast to the background and
 interesting by themselves.  It's a picture I like to look at.
 Regards,  Bob S.


 On Dec 7, 2007 9:07 PM, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.pbase.com/image/90022150
 
  Taken last weekend while fooling around looking for bird shots.  This
  is borage and a bumblebee both introduced from Europe.  Borage is
  surprisingly prickly which at first glance doesn't seem very well
  armed but seeing it close up it's no wonder it's a bit of a handful.
  Bumblebees on the other hand are surprisingly benign despite their
  potentially painful sting.  That is unless you start digging up their
  nests which I had to do for some research I did in the UK years ago.
 
  Specs: K10D, Sigma APO 300/4 AF, handheld
  1/350 F6.7 ISO800
 
  Comments  Critique welcome.
 
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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread graywolf
What does proprietary mean?

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 Very good news. Who has a 14 megapixel APS CMOS sensor?
 Paul
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Re: PESO: a prickly proposition

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very nice Alastair.
I particularly like the soft creamy background and the flower
blossoms, especially the blues.
The sharp bee and thorny stems are an excellent contrast to the background and
interesting by themselves.  It's a picture I like to look at.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Dec 7, 2007 9:07 PM, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.pbase.com/image/90022150

 Taken last weekend while fooling around looking for bird shots.  This
 is borage and a bumblebee both introduced from Europe.  Borage is
 surprisingly prickly which at first glance doesn't seem very well
 armed but seeing it close up it's no wonder it's a bit of a handful.
 Bumblebees on the other hand are surprisingly benign despite their
 potentially painful sting.  That is unless you start digging up their
 nests which I had to do for some research I did in the UK years ago.

 Specs: K10D, Sigma APO 300/4 AF, handheld
 1/350 F6.7 ISO800

 Comments  Critique welcome.

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PESO: a prickly proposition

2007-12-07 Thread Alastair Robertson
http://www.pbase.com/image/90022150

Taken last weekend while fooling around looking for bird shots.  This
is borage and a bumblebee both introduced from Europe.  Borage is
surprisingly prickly which at first glance doesn't seem very well
armed but seeing it close up it's no wonder it's a bit of a handful.
Bumblebees on the other hand are surprisingly benign despite their
potentially painful sting.  That is unless you start digging up their
nests which I had to do for some research I did in the UK years ago.

Specs: K10D, Sigma APO 300/4 AF, handheld
1/350 F6.7 ISO800

Comments  Critique welcome.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax?

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,

Not really tongue-in-cheek on this.  I see it all as a very strategic
move by Pentax.

We want Pentax to do everything for us for nothing.
We expect all kinds of new stuff.
We whine when we don't get it.
Pentax doesn't keep up with Canon/Nikon on the leading edge of technology.

Well, they need more profit from their customers to do this,
and here is a way to do it.

Stop whining and wait for it...or cash out today.

Regards,  BobS.


On Dec 7, 2007 5:30 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Subject: Re: Full-frame Pentax?


 snip
 
  It's just strategy folks, nothing personal...
 

 Why not? Everyone else has done it at one time or another, and has profited
 by it.
 I know your tongue is in cheek on this, but there does seem to be a strong
 sense of entitlement sometimes that Pentax should be underwriting our hobby
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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/7/2007 11:00:49 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Dec 7, 2007, at 12:03, P.  J. Alling wrote:
  I may simply skip a
 generation and go to  the K20D, if the high ISO noise characteristics  
 are
  reasonable, (if not I should be able to get quite a bargain on  
  either a
 used or remaindered K10D).


That's sort of my  game plan, unless the K200D or whatever it will be  
called is a  nice-enough improvement over the DS.

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Re: PESO: My Wallpaper

2007-12-07 Thread Eactivist
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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=272

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Re: PESO: A Humble Meal

2007-12-07 Thread Eactivist
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/AHumbleMeal.jpg

Playing  around with a theme for our camera club. Maybe a little too  cliche?

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That's nice, I like it. Good detail.  The wood table makes it.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
LOL-- You really only need to read the first eight words and forget
about the because. That's what I did.

Jack
--- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  CCDs still enjoy significant noise advantages over CMOS because of
  quieter sensor substrates, inherent tolerances to bus capacitance
  variations and common output amplifiers with transistor geometries
  that
  can be easily adapted to minimal noise.
  
  (Ain't Google handy?)
  
 
 
 
 Yes, but which language translator can I use to turn that explanation
 into English?
 
 
 8-)
 
 
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Re: speaking of old and mouldering Pentax bodies ...

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Interesting info about the MV-1, thanks.

Given the way I shoot a good bit of the time, a simple camera with  
aperture priority AE, EV compensation  and a good lens would be  
pretty easy to live with. That's pretty much how I used my Minox C  
and EC cameras, and the Nikon FE2 as well.

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread P. J. Alling
Not in APS C format AFIK.

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Mark Roberts wrote:
   
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 Who has a 14 megapixel APS CMOS sensor?
   
 It's probably the Pentax-designed sensor we've been hearing about for a 
 few years, with manufacturing done by some large semiconductor maker.
 

 Gee whiz.  Doesn't Samsung have the capability to do that sort of thing?

   


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Re: Cameras you wish you still had

2007-12-07 Thread Margus Männik
Hi,

A: I have 'em all. I am a camera collector. Film cameras have become so 
cheap, that I have been easily bought those models back from eBay.
B: Pentax 645N - the only camera I REALLY did not want to give back 
after testing ( I write the reviews for a local computer-photo 
magazine). It was tested together with some Hasselblad and  Mamiya 
645/6x6 cameras and for me, Pentax was really the best.
I could quite easily buy a body with normal lens, but then (I jut know 
myself), it would sooner or later end up with series of additional 
lenses and accessories - and this is the expense I would rather avoid.

BR, Margus


graywolf wrote:
 Thought it was time to reminisce again.
 A: What cameras have you owned that you wish you had never gotten rid of?
 B: And, just for fun, what cameras have you lusted for but never had?

 Here's my list,

 A:
 Linhof Super Technica 45 (The do anything camera)
 Rolleiflex 2.8E2 (Best portrait camera I ever owned)
 Mamiya Universal Press (Owned two over the years, they were money makers)
 Pentax MX (cheating here because I got a couple of replacements)

 B:
 Leica M2
 Arriflex R16B2 (Never had a need for one, but always wanted one anyway)
 Full Frame DSLR


   


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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 CCDs still enjoy significant noise advantages over CMOS because of
 quieter sensor substrates, inherent tolerances to bus capacitance
 variations and common output amplifiers with transistor geometries
 that
 can be easily adapted to minimal noise.
 
 (Ain't Google handy?)
 



Yes, but which language translator can I use to turn that explanation into 
English?


8-)


Cheers

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Jack Davis
CCDs still enjoy significant noise advantages over CMOS because of
quieter sensor substrates, inherent tolerances to bus capacitance
variations and common output amplifiers with transistor geometries that
can be easily adapted to minimal noise.

(Ain't Google handy?)

Jack


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 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Davis 
 Subject: Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:
 
 
  I'm wondering about the noise control with a 14mp APS sensor.
  Am anxious to begin learning about it. (hope the price estimate is
  really high). LoL
 
 IIRC, CMOS sensors are inherently less noisy than CCDs.
 I could have it backwards though.
 
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Re: Help from American PDMLer sought

2007-12-07 Thread Alastair Robertson
Boris

I have found that more often than not if you ask the seller if they
will ship to you while the auction is on they will agree.  I assure
them I will pay with Paypal and they usually agree.

Alastair

On Dec 8, 2007 9:32 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Boris -
 can you pay for it and have them ship it to me?  if it isn't too heavy
 and I can send it to you by normal mail
 I'll be happy to do it

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Re: Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Dec 7, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 You are absolutely right Cory.
 The old gear has a touch and feel that doesn't go away.
 The ME is so small, clean,and quick in the hands.
 The ME Super is more quiet and solid feeling when the shutter fires.
 The KX is big and durable and kind of ols school.
 I feel like a pro with the little MX.
 And the LX just feels premium, bigger and more substantial but so
 nimble and flexible.
 Finally the Super Program, the poor man's LX with TTL flash and a 3.5
 fps winder.
 Great cameras that the K10D will never compare to.

Sorry. I had an MX: it was nice but I prefer my Nikon FM2n for that  
kind of camera. The K10D works better.

G

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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis 
Subject: Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:


 I'm wondering about the noise control with a 14mp APS sensor.
 Am anxious to begin learning about it. (hope the price estimate is
 really high). LoL

IIRC, CMOS sensors are inherently less noisy than CCDs.
I could have it backwards though.

William Robb

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RE: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Cotty
 Sent: 07 December 2007 22:42
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey
 
 On 07/12/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 In fact, we're still friends, 28 years on.
 
 Nudge nudge wink wink. Does she likep h o t o g r a p h s 
 ?? Nudge nudge
 

Photography? Holiday snaps? No, no. We don't have a camera.

Eric


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Re: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote:
 On Dec 7, 2007 5:16 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wow, what a nice guy, smoking right there in the door so the wrest of us can 
 breathe his wonderfull smoke.  God how I smokers, inconsiderate asses each 
 and every one of them.  No better than street drinkers.  I've always 
 wondered why smoking should be remain legal in public while drinking is not. 
  Atleast, for the most part anyway, street drinkers are dousing their booze 
 all over you.


 I don't want to pick on any one group or area, but in my experience,
 Chinatown (at least here in Toronto - where this photo was taken, BTW)
 has many more smoking outdoor vendors than other areas of the city.
 Toronto has fairly aggressive anti-smoking laws, such that it's
 illegal to smoke in pretty much any indoor space save for private
 residences.
 
 But one often sees fruit and vegetable vendors hawking their good
 outdoors with a butt hanging out of their mouth.  It's quite
 sickening, really.  I refuse to buy anything from a place where I've
 ever seen anyone doing that.
 
 Imagine, standing over a table-full of food, spreading ashes and smoke all 
 over!
 
 cheers,
 frank

Yeah, definitely, former smokers ARE the worst when it comes to understanding 
and forgiving and remembering what it was like, for what that's worth. 
sighhh.  g

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Re: PESO - Sparking One Up

2007-12-07 Thread frank theriault
On Dec 7, 2007 5:16 PM, Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 wow, what a nice guy, smoking right there in the door so the wrest of us can 
 breathe his wonderfull smoke.  God how I smokers, inconsiderate asses each 
 and every one of them.  No better than street drinkers.  I've always wondered 
 why smoking should be remain legal in public while drinking is not.  Atleast, 
 for the most part anyway, street drinkers are dousing their booze all over 
 you.

I don't want to pick on any one group or area, but in my experience,
Chinatown (at least here in Toronto - where this photo was taken, BTW)
has many more smoking outdoor vendors than other areas of the city.
Toronto has fairly aggressive anti-smoking laws, such that it's
illegal to smoke in pretty much any indoor space save for private
residences.

But one often sees fruit and vegetable vendors hawking their good
outdoors with a butt hanging out of their mouth.  It's quite
sickening, really.  I refuse to buy anything from a place where I've
ever seen anyone doing that.

Imagine, standing over a table-full of food, spreading ashes and smoke all over!

cheers,
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RE: speaking of old and mouldering Pentax bodies ...

2007-12-07 Thread Bob W
 Was the MV1 the same as (or very similar to) the MV?

Yes. The MV1 was the same except that you could use a winder. They
were both dropped for the MG (one of which I nearly bought when I had
an MG car).

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 Behalf Of frank theriault
 Sent: 07 December 2007 21:57
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 Subject: Re: speaking of old and mouldering Pentax bodies ...
 
 On Dec 7, 2007 9:30 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is the Pentax MV-1 any good? reliable? It looks like an 
 auto-exposure-
  only version of the MX ... ??
 
  A guy at the photo store yesterday had one and I thought it looked
  pretty nice.
 
 
 Was the MV1 the same as (or very similar to) the MV?  I briefly had
an
 MV.  Aperture priority only, no indication of shutter speed at all.
 If the meter showed green, it was somewhere between 1/30 and 1/500
or
 maybe 1/1000.  You had to count stops on your aperture up or down
from
 red (on the meter) to figure out the aproximate shutter speed.
 
 There was not even any optical viewfinder window in which to see the
 aperture - you had to look at the ring or count clicks.
 
 Cheap black plastic housing.
 
 ~Very~ basic camera.
 
 I bought it because I bought an MX body-only, and needed a lens.
$25
 on eBay, including an M 2.0 50mm (very capable lens!).  Bought it
for
 the lens, and I found that I used the MV more often than I thought I
 might.  It made a good second k mount body in the absence of
anything
 else.  Lasted 6 months and then crapped out.  Became a big rear
 lenscap after that...
 
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Re: PESO - Saying Hi

2007-12-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/6/2007 11:32:56 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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It is a 'feel good'  picture and yes, I like the smile too.

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Re: PESO - Raindrops

2007-12-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/4/2007 10:49:20 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Following a very  light rain this morning I went out to take advantage
of the photo  ops.

Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod
ISO 400, 1/30 Sec @  f/5.6

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5359.htm

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Re: Cameras you wish you still had

2007-12-07 Thread Bob Blakely
For US$1200, you can have one from eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Takane-MineSix-Super-66-Beautiful-Asahi-6x6-camera-RARE_W0QQitemZ270192718965QQihZ017QQcategoryZ710QQcmdZViewItem

Regards,
Bob...
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From: Yefei He [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Keith,

Are you sure you weren't actually thinking of this camera when
 you typed:

http://www.geocities.com/antjam65/TakaneSuper66.html

You did alright. It's got a fine Takumar lens.

 From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Cotty wrote:
  On 05/12/07, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  Ah yes. The MX-S is the only SLR I have wanted but can't quite
 justify the
  cost of.
  Almost moot now, as I'd have to find a used one, if I decide to go
 there...
 
  I have several other Pentax rangefinders
 
  keith I want some of what your smoking man

 I known, I know!
 I jigged instead of jagging!
 Big ooops!


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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Blakely wrote:

 For a full frame at ~15 megapixels or better body from Pentax I'd
 pay ~ $2500 . If Pentax can't make it available in the next year or
 so, you may well find all my gear on ebay as I build the capital to 
 buy the bodies with the  full frame sensors I want and the lenses 
 to go with them.

 Sh*t

 They can put a K20D up their butt to look for polyps!

Bob, you're being more than a little unreasonable in your expectations 
from Pentax, given their limited, even now, resources.  Even Sony -- 
SONY! A company that makes their own sensors and has an annual budget 
bigger than some small countries! -- won't have a full-frame camera 
until 2008. Pentax will be at least a year behind and probably two.

If it's that important to you to have full-frame you should switch 
systems now. I's love to be surprised early but I don't expect 
full-frame from Pentax until 2010.



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Current camera classics? WAS:Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread cbwaters
Godfrey,
you view is certainly logical, if a bit dispassionate.  I tend to impart a 
soul and personality to my possessions (and indeed items I want but will 
never own for lack of funds).
I'm wondering if you had posters of cars, bikes or whatever on your walls as 
a teenager.
I admire gadgets and equipment.  I'm sure I give them more importance than 
they're really worth.

I guess my point with the post was to say that nobody will have any of the 
current crop of digital cameras in five to ten years time.  We'll have 
dumped them for newer models or binned them because they're dead and cannot 
be repaired. And to contrast that with the thread about cameras we own and 
can't quite bring ourselves to sell even if we're not using them is 
interesting

God help the poor prat who tries to send Pentax his K10 for service or even 
a CLA in 2015 let alone 2037.

Cory

I have a Super Program and a beautiful black MX that don't see enough use.


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Old things are interesting because they're old and remind us of good
 times of the past we had with them, using them. It has nothing to do
 with whether they were designed to last 30 years or not.

 But then I'm a robotnik. Cameras are tools.
 It's the photographs which make me nostalgic. ;-)

 Godfrey



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RE: Cameras you wish you still had

2007-12-07 Thread Yefei He
Keith, 

Are you sure you weren't actually thinking of this camera when 
you typed: 

http://www.geocities.com/antjam65/TakaneSuper66.html

You did alright. It's got a fine Takumar lens.

Yefei

 
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 Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:18:10 -0800
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 Cotty wrote:
  On 05/12/07, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  Ah yes. The MX-S is the only SLR I have wanted but can't quite
 justify the
  cost of.
  Almost moot now, as I'd have to find a used one, if I decide to go
 there...
 
  I have several other Pentax rangefinders
 
  keith I want some of what your smoking man
 
 
 I known, I know!
 I jigged instead of jagging!
 Big ooops!
 
 keith
 




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Re: Full-frame Pentax? No, but this is coming:

2007-12-07 Thread Adam Maas
Personally, I'm happy with APS-C. Especially combined with SR. And
that's how I'm building my lens kit.

I've had a chance to shoot a Nikon D3 (Guy I know was VERY high on the
waiting list). It's quite nice, and the IQ is incredible. But it's not
the camera for me. Overly large without the option of losing the grip
for a smaller but slower profile.

My dream camera would be a Nikon D300(Which I've also shot with) with
SR, the K10D's exposure modes and the DMF mode and AF/MF button from
the A700.

-Adam

On 12/7/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who has a 14 megapixel APS CMOS sensor?

 It's probably the Pentax-designed sensor we've been hearing about for a
 few years, with manufacturing done by some large semiconductor maker.

 I'm disappointed that it's APS-sized - I'd much prefer fewer pixels in
 a larger area - but I won't damn its performance in advance like so
 many did with the K10D. (I ordered a K10D about 15 minutes after it
 first appeared on the BH web site!)

 Still, I'm nervous enough about 14MP/APS that, unlike the K10D, I'll
 wait until there are some solid test reports from users before I spend
 my money. I'm very happy with my K10D so I can afford to be cautious.

 In fact, the biggest obstacle to the success of the K20D (or whatever)
 may be that the K10D is going to be a tough act to follow.


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Re: FS Friday: random items

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
Hard to tell from this, what system you have now.

LOL

Dave

On Dec 7, 2007 1:45 PM, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is a link to my ebay auctions for this week:
 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbfift2girl

 Pentax S80-80 lens case for D-FA 50mm Macro or 55mm f/2.8
 Pentax PH-RBB lens hood for SMCP-DA 50-200mm lens

 Nikkor 70-210mm f/4 constant aperture zoom
 Nikon Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G
 Nikon FA Film Camera

 Canon 100-300 5.6l Macro Zoom

 Amita

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread David J Brooks
On Dec 7, 2007 2:14 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anybody think they'll ever again make a camera body that would elicit
 the same emotions thirty years on?

I won't be strong enough to pick it up by then.:-)

Dave

 CW
 does not.
 - Original Message -
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Same here. I bought my MX (black) in 1979 from Techno in the Euston Road
  (London) for either 106 or 104 GBP, body only. Also a 28mm 2.8 on the
  same day, although I can't remember the price of the lens. Drives,
  winders, more bodies have come and gone since then, but the camera and
  lens (and a winder) sit retired on a shelf with a couple of other cameras.
 
  I'll be buried with the MX ;-)
 
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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread John Whittingham
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 16:04:06 +, mike wilson wrote
  
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  Date: 2007/12/07 Fri PM 03:44:06 GMT
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2007/12/06 Thu PM 04:20:18 GMT
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Subject: Re: Mouldering film camera survey

On 06/12/07, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed:

3x KX one silver, one black  one for spares
3x MX all silver, all working.
1x LX
2x Super A's c/w motordrives  MEII winders.
2x MZ-3's c/w FG battery packs.
1x 645

Jesus H, you're going to hell as sure as night follows day!
   
   Don't forget the Ducati.  He's there already.
  
  No, you're mistaken, that's heaven!
 
 _You_ think it is.  That's the nature of Hell.  At first

LOL

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Re: PESO: A Humble Meal

2007-12-07 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks Paul, and Paul :-)

I am going to reshoot tomorrow with a different plate, beer instead of
wine (crangrape juice), and add the beer bottle.
I'll get back later.

Walt

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 crop a bit off the top.

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Re: Mouldering film camera survey

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Dec 7, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 cbwaters wrote:
 Does anybody think they'll ever again make a camera body that  
 would elicit
 the same emotions thirty years on?

 Nor do I.  They (camera makers) figured out a while back that making
 cameras which last 30+ years isn't conducive to turning a profit.   
 While
 I can't blame them, I certainly miss the stuff that was made to last.
 Old cameras, bicycles, even small kitchen appliances are much more
 interesting to me than the latest and greatest (which is more or less
 disposable).  Being able to repair and maintain something myself is a
 lot of fun, and, I believe, more economically and ecologically
 responsible.  I generate enough trash as it is.  Then again, if I were
 making money with my cameras I'd probably have a different point of  
 view.


Old things are interesting because they're old and remind us of good  
times of the past we had with them, using them. It has nothing to do  
with whether they were designed to last 30 years or not.

But then I'm a robotnik. Cameras are tools.
It's the photographs which make me nostalgic. ;-)

Godfrey

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PESO 2007 - 50b - GDG

2007-12-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I love to visit this place ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/50b.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
Godfrey


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Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Igor, I sincerely think that taking a film camera with good negative 
film along might help. Another option of course is to use gray gradient 
filters in order to lower the d.r.

Boris

Igor Roshchin wrote:
 Does anybody have any tips on how to best shoot such shots
 with or without HDR in mind?
 (Other brutal comments are also appreciated, as always.)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Igor
 
 
 


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