Re: PESO: Sepia Flowers

2008-05-03 Thread Toine
Very nice rendering. What do you dislike? I think I would try
darkening or removing the highlights on the leaves in the bottom
right.

Toine


On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 I kind of like this, and I kind of dislike this shot.  I would be very
 grateful for your thoughts either way so that I can let this shot go and
 move on.  Has this ever happened to any of you guys?  You get so stuck in
 your inability to make a decision about a shot that it becomes hard to work
 on other photos?

 K10D, DA 16-45mm, 45mm @f4, ISO 200.  Sepia filter in Lightroom.

 Ugh!  Only 6 days left on my Lightroom free trial.  I'll be buying it.  The
 program is terrific.  Thanks for all the early help offered by the list.
 And I strongly recommend it to anyone who's thinking about purchasing!

 By the by, I bought the DA 16-45mm!  Overall, I'm pleased, so thanks for the
 recommendations from all you good folks.

 Small:  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7218342

 Large:  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7218342size=lg

 Big Cheers,
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Re: ping

2008-05-03 Thread David Savage
Wei Doe Ping  Yai Wei Won.

2 Chinese athletes done for drug use.

Cheers,

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FW: Foto8 Monthly Digest May 2008

2008-05-03 Thread Bob W
My favourite photo magazine, ei8ht, has changed from a quarterly to a 
half-yearly, and also changed the type of contents. The first of the new 
editions arrived last week and I had a chance to look at it this morning. It is 
even better than it used to be, and I thoroughly recommend it (once again) to 
anybody who is interested in contemporary photojournalism. They send a regular 
digest to subscribers, with links to the online presence www.foto8.com and 
various photo-stores, which I have forwarded for anyone who is interested.

Bob



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To: Foto8
Subject: Foto8 Monthly Digest May 2008


 http://www.foto8.com/home/templates/sebenza_foto8/images/foto8.gif   The 
Monthly News Digest
1 May 2008 


Story of the Week


 http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/440/161/ 


To Sell a Tiger 
Renhui Zhao visits tiger farms in China where efforts to save the species 
include lobbying to legalise the trade in tiger parts for medicine after a ban 
of 14 years.


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This month: Larry Towell's new book, and two new editions from Martin Parr. In 
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whether a view from the vantage of Larry's own front doorstep or a sneak peak 
into Martin's obsession with collecting objects and postcards.


News Round Up


8 Magazine http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/384/218/ April was a busy 
and exciting month at Foto8. After six months of hard work by us and patient 
loyalty from our readers we released the new issue of 8 Magazine. The release 
was marked with a private view at the central London agnes b. store, where we 
are currently exhibiting works from the past issues of 8 Magazine in 8 
Magazine: The Cover Stories which runs until 14 May.

The new issue has had a fantastic reception.
To see for yourself, subscribe now
http://www.foto8.com/cat--Subscriptions--EI8HT_subscriptions.html 
...the magazine looks fantastic and I was very impressed with the amount of 
interesting reading content and most of all the sense of respect for such a 
variety of photography Very difficult combination! Bravo to the whole team. 
Ayperi Karabuda Ecer
Vice President Picture Business Development
Thomson Reuters


...in my opinion it has become THE reference magazine for documentary and 
photojournalism. And I'm sure that’s not going to change with the new format. 
Jose Navarro, Photographer


Looking Ahead 

Coverage from the New York Photo Festival 
14- 18 May
We are excited about going to New York Photo Festival with a new venture: 
interactive reporting direct  from photography festivals over the coming year. 
Celebrity bloggers will be contributing but we want your thoughts and pictures 
as well. Each day we will be giving away a free subscription to 8 magazine for 
the most interesting comment.
www.foto8.com/festivals - launching 8 May.







Portfolio Reviews: Meet the Editors 
20 May
Foto8 is now hosting monthly portfolio reviews, an opportunity for amateur and 
professional photographers alike to come and show their portfolios to editors 
from 8 and beyond. Photographers can see up to three editors, with each session 
lasting 15 mins. Spaces are strictly limited so book early to avoid 
disappointment. Book your place here.
http://www.foto8.com/item--Meet-the-Editors-I:-Portfolio-Review--foto8_portfolio_reviews.html
 





Adam Hinton at HOST Gallery
Lovin' It
9 May - 7 June 

Adam Hinton's new work from Shanghai documents the emergence of an aggressive 
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with living under the surreal haze of fluorescent lights and the constant gaze 
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Re: PESO: Sepia Flowers

2008-05-03 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 2 May 2008 17:20:50 -0500, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I kind of like this, and I kind of dislike this shot.  I would be very 
 grateful for your thoughts either way so that I can let this shot go and 
 move on.  Has this ever happened to any of you guys?  You get so stuck in 
 your inability to make a decision about a shot that it becomes hard to
 work 
 on other photos?


All the time.  I've got to get away from the computer and take more
photos!!

I think the shot has potential but for a sepia image it doesn't seem to
be sepia enough.  It looks a little dirty, particularly the group of
flowers on the top left.  Worth spending a bit more time on (although I
suppose that's not what you wanted to hear.)



Cheers

Brian

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ping

2008-05-03 Thread Bob W


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Re: GESO: New Nephew

2008-05-03 Thread Mme RD
lol... Grace will have company then  if he is half as photogenic , 
there are lots of great photos  coming
dom


John Celio a écrit :
 Thanks Dom, Bob, Godders and Christine.  I can't wait till his mom lets me 
 use a flash around him, so I can try some shots with greater depth of field. 
 I'm gonna be filling hard drives with photos of this kid, I just know it. :)

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PESO

2008-05-03 Thread Mme RD
no nephew   at hand nor grand daughter  so cat and orchids ... one 
raises what one can .. ;-) lol .. my favorite orchid in bloom now : 
psychopsis mariposa .
http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/2459229642/in/set-72157604838935760/

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Splat! was [Re: ping]

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Bob W wrote:
   


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Re: GESO: New Nephew

2008-05-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm coming late to this, but he looks like a keeper! Good job with  
the available light. I'll look forward to seeing more of the little guy.
Paul
On May 2, 2008, at 7:43 PM, John Celio wrote:
 Thanks Dom, Bob, Godders and Christine.  I can't wait till his mom  
 lets me
 use a flash around him, so I can try some shots with greater depth  
 of field.
 I'm gonna be filling hard drives with photos of this kid, I just  
 know it. :)

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Re: PESO

2008-05-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
A beautiful flower, well captured. I have been trying to get my very  
ordinary orchid to bloom again for a year now. I admire anyone who  
can grow these things.
Paul
On May 3, 2008, at 7:49 AM, Mme RD wrote:
 no nephew   at hand nor grand daughter  so cat and orchids ... one
 raises what one can .. ;-) lol .. my favorite orchid in bloom now :
 psychopsis mariposa .
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/2459229642/in/ 
 set-72157604838935760/

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Re: AF-Telezoom for K20D?

2008-05-03 Thread Carlos Royo
Ralf R. Radermacher escribió:
 Hello all,
 
 I'm looking for an AF version of my SMC-M 4.5/80-200 mm. Yes, I know
 there's no direct AF equivalent of this lens. I'd want something with
 the same image quality (I'm actually very fond of this lens). A few mm
 more at the far end wouldn't hurt either. 
 
 What about the ubiquitous F and FA xx-200 or xx-300 mm lenses? Any other
 suggestions? 3rd party lenses?
 


I have had several Pentax telezooms. The F 70-210 mm. 4-5.6 that some 
other people recommended is a sharp lens and an excellent choice. I also 
had the FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6. It isn't as good as the F 70-210, but it 
is a really good performer too.

Now I have the FA* 80-200 mm. 2.8 and the F 80-200 mm. 4.7-5.6. If you 
don't want to spend a lot of money, the F or FA 80-200 4.7-5.6 is 
surprisingly good for a modest consumer zoom lens. It is very light and 
small, doesn't change its length when zooming (it is an internal zoom 
lens) and its minimum focus distance is 1.1 metres, and is optically 
quite good, not as good the F 70-210 but on par with the FA 80-320. I 
recommend the F version because it has a metal lens mount, not plastic 
as the FA.

Carlos

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PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Have you ever gone through a time in your life when you collected
something really, really stupid for no sensible reason?

I have.

Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg

Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg

K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100, AF-540 FGZ

If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets see it.

Cheers,

Dave :-)

PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for over 8 years. Now
I just shake my head.

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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread Jack Davis
You'll be in great shape if we ever go to a pull tab monetary system. ;))

Jack


--- On Sat, 5/3/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: Why, why, why?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 6:48 AM
 G'day All,
 
 Have you ever gone through a time in your life when you
 collected
 something really, really stupid for no sensible reason?
 
 I have.
 
 Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
 
 Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100, AF-540
 FGZ
 
 If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets see it.


 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave :-)
 
 PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for
 over 8 years. Now
 I just shake my head.
 
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VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread George Sinos
Video every so often

I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.

Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slide-show.html.

It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with the
rhythm of the music.

You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.

It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT

Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr and
many other photo hosting sites.

GS
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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread George Sinos
To Tim Bray -

Looks like twitter is diplaying the last link in the message.  I got
sent to the PDML info page from the tweet.  GS

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:48 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Have you ever gone through a time in your life when you collected
 something really, really stupid for no sensible reason?

 I have.

 Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg

 Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg

 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100, AF-540 FGZ

 If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets see it.

 Cheers,

 Dave :-)

 PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for over 8 years. Now
 I just shake my head.

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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread Brendan MacRae
I thought I was the only person in the world who tore
those things off.

It seems my disease is not unique. Keeping them
afterwards, however, that IS a new symptom.

-Brendan
--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 G'day All,
 
 Have you ever gone through a time in your life when
 you collected
 something really, really stupid for no sensible
 reason?
 
 I have.
 
 Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
 
 Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100,
 AF-540 FGZ
 
 If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets
 see it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave :-)
 
 PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for
 over 8 years. Now
 I just shake my head.
 
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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Dave you didn't know it but you must have been channeling Ronald 
McDonald.  A charity group I'm associated with collects those for the 
metal value.  If you have a hundred thousand people collecting and 
dropping them off you get a metric ton of high quality aluminum alloy in 
a commercially recoverable quantity for very little individual effort.  
You can probably find a group running a Tabs for Tots program who'd be 
happy for the contribution.  Then you don't have OCD, you're a 
philanthropist.

David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,

 Have you ever gone through a time in your life when you collected
 something really, really stupid for no sensible reason?

 I have.

 Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg

 Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg

 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100, AF-540 FGZ

 If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets see it.

 Cheers,

 Dave :-)

 PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for over 8 years. Now
 I just shake my head.

   


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Re: VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
How do I put this gently.  I can't.  That is by far the most annoying 
way to view good images that I have ever seen.  For me it would make bad 
images even worse as I would be spending all of my time looking at the 
effects and ignoring the content.  If you're a good photographer you 
don't need it, if you do, you should sell all your expensive gear and 
buy a PS, the simpler the better. Only take pictures of the kids and 
your pets to show the family, because they're the only ones who'll 
bother to look at your work.

George Sinos wrote:
 Video every so often

 I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
 simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.

 Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
 http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slide-show.html.

 It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with the
 rhythm of the music.

 You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
 each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.

 It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT

 Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
 site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
 them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
 also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr and
 many other photo hosting sites.

 GS
 http://georgesphotos.net

   


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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread Jack Davis
What would I do with a metric ton of aluminum alloy? 8-0

Jack


--- On Sat, 5/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Why, why, why?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 8:15 AM
 Dave you didn't know it but you must have been
 channeling Ronald 
 McDonald.  A charity group I'm associated with collects
 those for the 
 metal value.  If you have a hundred thousand people
 collecting and 
 dropping them off you get a metric ton of high quality
 aluminum alloy in 
 a commercially recoverable quantity for very little
 individual effort.  
 You can probably find a group running a Tabs for
 Tots program who'd be 
 happy for the contribution.  Then you don't
 have OCD, you're a 
 philanthropist.
 
 David Savage wrote:
  G'day All,
 
  Have you ever gone through a time in your life when
 you collected
  something really, really stupid for no sensible
 reason?
 
  I have.
 
  Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
 
  Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
 
  K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100,
 AF-540 FGZ
 
  If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets
 see it.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Dave :-)
 
  PS I've been cured of this particular obsession
 for over 8 years. Now
  I just shake my head.
 

 
 
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Re: AF-Telezoom for K20D?

2008-05-03 Thread Boris Liberman
I'd second what Carlos wrote below. I've had both 80-320 and 
80-200/4.7-5.6 lenses. I found the adequate but both having PF issues 
with my digital cameras. The F 70-210 seems to be better than both in 
this department. In fact, I think that F 70-210 is the best lens among 
its peers unless you want constant aperture and fast speed.

Boris

Carlos Royo wrote:
 I have had several Pentax telezooms. The F 70-210 mm. 4-5.6 that some 
 other people recommended is a sharp lens and an excellent choice. I also 
 had the FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6. It isn't as good as the F 70-210, but it 
 is a really good performer too.
 
 Now I have the FA* 80-200 mm. 2.8 and the F 80-200 mm. 4.7-5.6. If you 
 don't want to spend a lot of money, the F or FA 80-200 4.7-5.6 is 
 surprisingly good for a modest consumer zoom lens. It is very light and 
 small, doesn't change its length when zooming (it is an internal zoom 
 lens) and its minimum focus distance is 1.1 metres, and is optically 
 quite good, not as good the F 70-210 but on par with the FA 80-320. I 
 recommend the F version because it has a metal lens mount, not plastic 
 as the FA.
 
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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Melt it down to build that flying saucer that you've always wanted...

Jack Davis wrote:
 What would I do with a metric ton of aluminum alloy? 8-0

 Jack


 --- On Sat, 5/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Why, why, why?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 8:15 AM
 Dave you didn't know it but you must have been
 channeling Ronald 
 McDonald.  A charity group I'm associated with collects
 those for the 
 metal value.  If you have a hundred thousand people
 collecting and 
 dropping them off you get a metric ton of high quality
 aluminum alloy in 
 a commercially recoverable quantity for very little
 individual effort.  
 You can probably find a group running a Tabs for
 Tots program who'd be 
 happy for the contribution.  Then you don't
 have OCD, you're a 
 philanthropist.

 David Savage wrote:
 
 G'day All,

 Have you ever gone through a time in your life when
   
 you collected
 
 something really, really stupid for no sensible
   
 reason?
 
 I have.

 Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):

   
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
 
 Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):

   
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100,
   
 AF-540 FGZ
 
 If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets
   
 see it.
 
 Cheers,

 Dave :-)

 PS I've been cured of this particular obsession
   
 for over 8 years. Now
 
 I just shake my head.

   
   
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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread David Savage
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:15 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave you didn't know it but you must have been channelling Ronald
  McDonald.  A charity group I'm associated with collects those for the
  metal value.  If you have a hundred thousand people collecting and
  dropping them off you get a metric ton of high quality aluminum alloy in
  a commercially recoverable quantity for very little individual effort.
  You can probably find a group running a Tabs for Tots program who'd be
  happy for the contribution.  Then you don't have OCD, you're a
  philanthropist.

That's the plan.

A member of the family is a teacher  her students (and the whole
school) collect them  donate the proceeds to charity.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread David Savage
Sell it. And pocket over US$2000.

Cheers,

Dave

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What would I do with a metric ton of aluminum alloy? 8-0

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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread David Savage
:-)

Beer labels also don't stay on the bottle very long either :-)

(but I never kept those)

Cheers,

Dave

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Brendan MacRae
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought I was the only person in the world who tore
  those things off.

  It seems my disease is not unique. Keeping them
  afterwards, however, that IS a new symptom.

  -Brendan


 --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   G'day All,
  
   Have you ever gone through a time in your life when
   you collected
   something really, really stupid for no sensible
   reason?
  
   I have.
  
   Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
  
  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
  
   Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
  
  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
  
   K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100,
   AF-540 FGZ
  
   If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets
   see it.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Dave :-)
  
   PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for
   over 8 years. Now
   I just shake my head.

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Re: PESO

2008-05-03 Thread Tim Bray
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Mme RD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 no nephew   at hand nor grand daughter  so cat and orchids ... one
  raises what one can .. ;-) lol .. my favorite orchid in bloom now :
  psychopsis mariposa .
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/romdomi/2459229642/in/set-72157604838935760/

Sat morning... Flickr says it's been deleted? -T


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Re: VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread George Sinos
I should have started out by saying you'll either love or hate
Animoto.  I'm having a lot of fun with it.

This is definitely not about fine photography.  It's about using your
pictures to generate something for fun.  Eye-candy to satisfy the
short-attention-span set.  My 80 year old mother would hate it.  She
wants to stare at every photo for a long time.  My 24 year old
daughter thinks it's the newest hotness.  She grew up on fast paced
stuff like this.

I created another short video from about 75 images taken at
neighborhood holiday get-togethers and other parties over the last
several years.  The video is just under two minutes.  They loved it.
It generated lots of conversation about old times and how everyone's
looks and hair styles had changed.  A similar video from about 50
shots taken at work during a new employee reception has also been very
popular.  (These are not publicly posted to respect the privacy of the
folks in the photos.)

These videos are more on the animated scrap book, music video end of
the scale and are about as far from fine art as you can get.

See you later, gs
http://georgesphotos.net

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:23 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I put this gently.  I can't.  That is by far the most annoying
 way to view good images that I have ever seen.  For me it would make bad
 images even worse as I would be spending all of my time looking at the
 effects and ignoring the content.  If you're a good photographer you
 don't need it, if you do, you should sell all your expensive gear and
 buy a PS, the simpler the better. Only take pictures of the kids and
 your pets to show the family, because they're the only ones who'll
 bother to look at your work.


 George Sinos wrote:
  Video every so often
 
  I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
  simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.
 
  Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
  http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slide-show.html.
 
  It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with the
  rhythm of the music.
 
  You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
  each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.
 
  It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT
 
  Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
  site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
  them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
  also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr and
  many other photo hosting sites.
 
  GS
  http://georgesphotos.net
 
 


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Re: PESO: Sepia Flowers

2008-05-03 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks to Toine, Paul, William, Rick, Tim, and Brian for you suggestions, 
all of which helped me move on !

Brian:  so glad I'm not the only one!

Tim:  I posted that PESO last night, read your response:  it's a bit 
gloomy, then went to see Tennessee William's oh, so cheerful play (read 
irony here) Candle in the Sun.  Must have been in the air last night.

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RE: VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread Bob W
This is the very worst way to inflict your pictures on people. Its one
redeeming feature is that it is probably more humane than
water-boarding.

Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of George Sinos
 Sent: 03 May 2008 16:04
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: VESO - the end of the slide show
 
 Video every so often
 
 I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
 simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.
 
 Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
 http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slid
 e-show.html.
 
 It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with
the
 rhythm of the music.
 
 You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
 each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.
 
 It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT
 
 Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
 site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
 them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
 also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr
and
 many other photo hosting sites.
 
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 http://georgesphotos.net
 
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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread Jack Davis
Nobody, but Santa, was supposed to know that. Hope he didn't blab about my 
fantasy space wear.(?)

Jack(blushing)




--- On Sat, 5/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: Why, why, why?
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 8:35 AM
 Melt it down to build that flying saucer that you've
 always wanted...
 
 Jack Davis wrote:
  What would I do with a metric ton of
 aluminum alloy? 8-0
 
  Jack
 
 
  --- On Sat, 5/3/08, P. J. Alling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  From: P. J. Alling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: PESO: Why, why, why?
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Saturday, May 3, 2008, 8:15 AM
  Dave you didn't know it but you must have been
  channeling Ronald 
  McDonald.  A charity group I'm associated with
 collects
  those for the 
  metal value.  If you have a hundred thousand
 people
  collecting and 
  dropping them off you get a metric ton of high
 quality
  aluminum alloy in 
  a commercially recoverable quantity for very
 little
  individual effort.  
  You can probably find a group running a Tabs
 for
  Tots program who'd be 
  happy for the contribution.  Then you
 don't
  have OCD, you're a 
  philanthropist.
 
  David Savage wrote:
  
  G'day All,
 
  Have you ever gone through a time in your life
 when

  you collected
  
  something really, really stupid for no
 sensible

  reason?
  
  I have.
 
  Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):
 

 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
  
  Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):
 

 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
  
  K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5,
 ISO 100,

  AF-540 FGZ
  
  If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession,
 lets

  see it.
  
  Cheers,
 
  Dave :-)
 
  PS I've been cured of this particular
 obsession

  for over 8 years. Now
  
  I just shake my head.
 


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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread Jack Davis
Only if that excluded shipping  handling costs. ;)

Jack


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 Sell it. And pocket over US$2000.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave
 
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Re: VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think so.  Water boarding seems to break you immediately, after 
which it stops.  This could go on for days

Bob W wrote:
 This is the very worst way to inflict your pictures on people. Its one
 redeeming feature is that it is probably more humane than
 water-boarding.

 Bob 

   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of George Sinos
 Sent: 03 May 2008 16:04
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 Subject: VESO - the end of the slide show

 Video every so often

 I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
 simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.

 Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
 http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slid
 e-show.html.

 It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with
 
 the
   
 rhythm of the music.

 You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
 each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.

 It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT

 Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
 site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
 them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
 also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr
 
 and
   
 many other photo hosting sites.

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Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread William Robb
I don't suppose anyone knows where a person could get their hands on a codec to 
allow K20 DNG 
files to be viewed as thumbnails rather than icons in Windows Explorer (XP Pro 
32 bit).
Note, I don't want this badly enough to actually pay for it.
Thanks

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Re: OT - adding another to the fleet

2008-05-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Scott Loveless wrote:
 Bought another bicycle.  Go figure.  eBay auction number 130217801987. 
 The seller is only about an 80 mile drive from me and I get down that 
 way a couple times a month, so I'm not paying their exorbitant shipping. 
   Christie is ecstatic.  Or something.
 

Correction.  The fleet size will remain the same.  Some nasty little 
bastard stole my main bike last night.  Ack!

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Re: OT - adding another to the fleet

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
How do you know he was little...

(My condolences).

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Scott Loveless wrote:
   
 Bought another bicycle.  Go figure.  eBay auction number 130217801987. 
 The seller is only about an 80 mile drive from me and I get down that 
 way a couple times a month, so I'm not paying their exorbitant shipping. 
   Christie is ecstatic.  Or something.

 

 Correction.  The fleet size will remain the same.  Some nasty little 
 bastard stole my main bike last night.  Ack!

   


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Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 11:04:30AM -0600, William Robb wrote:
 I don't suppose anyone knows where a person could get their hands on a codec 
 to allow K20 DNG 
 files to be viewed as thumbnails rather than icons in Windows Explorer (XP 
 Pro 32 bit).
 Note, I don't want this badly enough to actually pay for it.
 Thanks
 
 William Robb 

I use a shell extension that shows thumbnails for K10D DNGs:

  http://www.raw-converter.com/en/index.php?id=81software=149

I don't know for sure that it works for K20D files, but it's
at least worth giving it a try!

P.S.  It works for *ist D PEF files, too.


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Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:
 I don't suppose anyone knows where a person could get their hands on a codec 
 to allow K20 DNG 
 files to be viewed as thumbnails rather than icons in Windows Explorer (XP 
 Pro 32 bit).
 Note, I don't want this badly enough to actually pay for it.
 Thanks

It's free: http://www.arcsoft.com/products/rawviewer/


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Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread Walter Hamler
Bill, I have been using the raw extractor program (freeware) at this
link for several months now and it works great.

http://www.idimager.com/?page=freeware

Walt

On 5/3/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't suppose anyone knows where a person could get their hands on a codec 
 to allow K20 DNG
 files to be viewed as thumbnails rather than icons in Windows Explorer (XP 
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 Note, I don't want this badly enough to actually pay for it.
 Thanks

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Re: OT - adding another to the fleet

2008-05-03 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless 
Subject: Re: OT - adding another to the fleet



 
 Correction.  The fleet size will remain the same.  Some nasty little 
 bastard stole my main bike last night.  Ack!

We have a sad joke in these parts:

Q: What will Santa bring the people in the Hood this year?
A: Your bicycle, your DVD player, your plasma TV..


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Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread William Robb
Thanks John and Mark.
I went with the Arcsoft product. The words shell extension kind of scared me.

William Robb

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Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread Adam Maas
Shell Extensions are just plugins for Windows Explorer. Perfectly safe.

-Adam

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Re: PESO: Why, why, why?

2008-05-03 Thread Rick Womer
Do those represent the beer for the last week or the
last month?

--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 G'day All,
 
 Have you ever gone through a time in your life when
 you collected
 something really, really stupid for no sensible
 reason?
 
 I have.
 
 Small (500x427 pixels, ~210 kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_f296bdaa87.jpg
 
 Large (950x896 pixels, ~350kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/2461437462_40be4913af_o.jpg
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 50mm, 1/60 @ f4.5, ISO 100,
 AF-540 FGZ
 
 If you have shots of an OCD fuelled obsession, lets
 see it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Dave :-)
 
 PS I've been cured of this particular obsession for
 over 8 years. Now
 I just shake my head.
 
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Re: VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yuck.

G

On May 3, 2008, at 8:03 AM, George Sinos wrote:

 Video every so often

 I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
 simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.

 Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
 http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slide- 
 show.html.

 It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with the
 rhythm of the music.

 You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
 each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.

 It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT

 Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
 site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
 them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
 also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr and
 many other photo hosting sites.

 GS
 http://georgesphotos.net


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PESO / GESO 1920 Track Bike

2008-05-03 Thread Mark Roberts
I stopped by Big Bang Bicycles (the shop where Dr Lisa and I get our 
bicycles these days - because the owner is the S.O. of another 
pathologist at the university) yesterday, and they had an amazing 
1920-or-so BSA track bike on display. I shot a lot of photos using the 
77 Ltd. Here's my current favorite shot (it's the handlebar mount):
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d801618.htm

Gallery of shots at http://www.robertstech.com/temp/trackbike/

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Re: VESO - the end of the slide show

2008-05-03 Thread George Sinos
So, I guess that means you don't want the discount code?  ;-)

gs

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yuck.

 G


 On May 3, 2008, at 8:03 AM, George Sinos wrote:

  Video every so often
 
  I heard about the Animoto service on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] podcast.  It's a
  simple way to make highly animated videos from your images.
 
  Here are a couple of short samples on my blog
  http://georgesweblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/animoto-end-of-slide-
  show.html.
 
  It's interesting to see the slides and special effects change with the
  rhythm of the music.
 
  You can generate 30 second samples for free.  Longer videos are $2
  each.  If you get hooked, the all-you-can-eat plan is $30/year.
 
  It's really easy to get hooked. DAMHIKT
 
  Oh yeah, they make it very easy to share the videos hosted on their
  site.  You can also download them, view them on your computer, load
  them on your video iPod, or upload them to your Smugmug site.  They
  also have connections to automatically import from Smugmug, Flickr and
  many other photo hosting sites.
 
  GS
  http://georgesphotos.net
 


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Enabled

2008-05-03 Thread Margus Männik
Sometimes home and sick isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for 
my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I 
wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems 
that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also 
extremely good solution.

Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg

BR, Margus


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Re: Codecs for DNG Thumbnails

2008-05-03 Thread P. J. Alling
In this case safe enough, but perfectly?

Adam Maas wrote:
 Shell Extensions are just plugins for Windows Explorer. Perfectly safe.

 -Adam

 On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Thanks John and Mark.
  I went with the Arcsoft product. The words shell extension kind of scared 
 me.

  William Robb



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Re: Enabled

2008-05-03 Thread Mme RD
Margus Männik a écrit :
 Sometimes home and sick isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for 
 my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I 
 wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems 
 that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also 
 extremely good solution.

 Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
 http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg

 BR, Margus
   
wow! .. really neat picture .
dom

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Re: Enabled

2008-05-03 Thread pnstenquist
Nice shot. I like your solution. Sounds like that would work for me as well. 
Looks like some more seldom used equipment goes on the block. 
Paul
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From: Margus Männik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sometimes home and sick isn't that bad at all. At least I had time for 
 my DA*300 I got few days ago. When I handled it first (in January) I 
 wasn't sure to get it - DA*60-250 sounded better for me.  Now it seems 
 that I have to get 'em both. Yes, it will be expensive but also 
 extremely good solution.
 
 Just one flower macro shot with K20D + DA*300:
 http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/flower300.jpg
 
 BR, Margus
 
 
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