Re: PESO Little Tourist---(aka Frame Intruders)

2008-10-02 Thread Cotty

 In front of the Art Institute on Michigan Ave., Chicago

 K10D, ISO 200, DA* 50-135mm-50mm, 1/320 sec @f4

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7927682size=lg


Only just caught this one. Excellent pic!


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Re: Peso: Another Family Picture

2008-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/10/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Thanks Paul, Frank, Joe, and Cotty for the kind comments.
Joe, it really does involve getting on your belly.
Ann, thanks for looking, and have a look here:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/shrooms1.html

Mike, those mushrooms were no more than two inches tall, so I was pretty
close with a long lens. That scene is a few feet deep, and I wanted it all
in focus, even if it meant giving up absolute sharpness.
This is an uncropped photo, BTW.

As an aside, I recently spent an hour in the woods in Hampshire with a
TV - chef, filming him and the reporter finding and collecting wild
mushrooms for one of his restaurants. I never knew the stunning variety
that one could come across in such a short walk. The forest was thick,
the light dim, with periodic and wonderful oases of brightness from the
overcast sky forming literally pools of calm light through which I could
filmed the subjects walking and talking.

Learned about nightcaps (!) and sebs - he went mental when finding two
of the most highly prized delicacies growing within inches of each other
(not the nightcap ;) and filming it all was a pleasure.

Later, after I had filmed him cooking them - we tried the simple dish
and it was impressive, as was the lunch he gave us in the restaurant.

But no such thing as a free lunch - the news service I work for has just
confirmed well over 400 redundancies.

I need to go back and collect some of those magic shrooms now :-)

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Re: OT - sad driver passing - was - sad celebrity passing

2008-10-02 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:58:27PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:

 When I was a teenager in the '70's I had a subscription to Road and
 Track and I remember every year some sponsor had a list of all the
 champs from the various SCCA classes.  Sure enough, there's Paul
 Newman, champion in some production class or another.  I did a double
 take - read the name then looked at the photo to see if it was the
 same Paul Newman, and sure enough it was.  I had heard he raced cars,
 but had no idea he was ~that~ good.

 If I recall correctly, he was champion of the SCCA GT1 class, maybe more  
 than once.

In the mid-80s he had a kick-ass Datsun Maxima.  It was a project car for
one of the car mags, and they fitted the engine from a 280Z, and added a
turbocharger (or supercharger).   I know this because at the time we had
an '83 Maxima wagon.  It was quite capable off the showroom floor - it
basically used the engine from a 240Z.  I can only imagine what it would
be like with a whole lot more power (and better suspenson  brakes).


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Re: Pentax Sighting

2008-10-02 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/01 Wed PM 08:46:00 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Pentax Sighting
 
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:18 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Does he chimp after taking shots?
 
 Har!
 
 I brought out my Leica CL for the first time in a long long time a
 couple of weekends ago, and I caught myself trying to chimp a few
 times.  The other thing I kept doing is ~not~ advancing the film with
 the thumb-lever.
 
 When I first started using the *istD some 18 months ago, I kept
 reaching for the phantom advance lever with my right thumb immediately
 after hitting the shutter release.
 
 I guess I've really gone over to the dark side, eh?

Well, for someone who professes love of subtlety to be almost exclusively 
wedded to a system that has either on or off as its base functionality..

I metioned chimping because I have seen a few modern films where the gangs of 
paparazzi have obviously been issued with whatever old SLR the props department 
had in stock.  Many of them had thumb winders that were being applied 
vigorously.  The photographer would then gurn at the back of camera.  I 
laughed out loud in one cinema.


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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/02 Thu AM 12:42:45 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Exposure Curiosity
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 While in a shady park downtown at around 6:35 p.m., I took these photos of
 my husband, Darrel.  It was really shady in the park, so as you can see I
 bumped up the ISO and opened up the aperture.  When I looked at these in
 Lightroom, I had to check to see if I had used the flash, but I didn't
 remember doing so, and the metadata showed I didn't.  Doesn't it kinda look
 like I did?  Or have my eyes just gone wonky?
 
 Anyway, fun to get a true white of my husband's beard.  He started to turn
 gray in high school, but now his hair  beard are white.
 
 
 Darrel 1:  K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/13 sec @f2.8
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935227
 
 
 Darrel 2: K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/30 sec @ f2.8
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935234
 
 Explanations welcome :-)

From reflections in the specs, it looks as if there is a large (sky-sized) 
bright light source behind you.  As you have exposed correctly, the camera has 
produced an image that has, if you like, the standard amount of light to 
produce a good, bright image.  The lighter clothes and beard have come out 
brighter than the darker background vegetation, as you would expect.


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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/02 Thu AM 12:44:20 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GFM sold
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark Roberts 
 Subject: Re: GFM sold
 
 
 
  Several good places in Boone, as a matter of fact :)
 
 Talking about Boone, has anyone heard from Tom lately?


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Re: L' Shana Tovah

2008-10-02 Thread Thibouille
To all who are celebrate, I wish them a good year.

I'm not involved personnaly but I doesn't prevent me from wishing you
all the best :)

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Re: Pentax Sighting

2008-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling

frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:18 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Does he chimp after taking shots?



Har!

I brought out my Leica CL for the first time in a long long time a
couple of weekends ago, and I caught myself trying to chimp a few
times.  The other thing I kept doing is ~not~ advancing the film with
the thumb-lever.

When I first started using the *istD some 18 months ago, I kept
reaching for the phantom advance lever with my right thumb immediately
after hitting the shutter release.

I guess I've really gone over to the dark side, eh?

cheers,
frank
  

You bought a Canon?




  



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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling

frank theriault wrote:

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Several good places in Boone, as a matter of fact :)



Well, now that I've seen the light, I'll have to follow you, oh master.

Wait.

I don't have a car, so I probably don't have any choice.

We'll have to have a nice feed of barbequed roasted veggies at the
campsite.  M!

cheers,
frank (still evangelical about eating cruelty-free)
  

Plants have feelings too!


  



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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread AlunFoto
2008/10/2 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Plants have feelings too!

For a certain value of feelings. Which is currently far less even
than the value of certain financial institutions in the US. of A...
:-)

Jostein
whose computer has just crashed in a bad way.

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread David Savage
2008/10/2 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 frank theriault wrote:
 cheers,
 frank (still evangelical about eating cruelty-free)


 Plants have feelings too!

Yeah but they have no way to give voice to them, so who cares?

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread David Savage
2008/10/2 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 David Savage wrote:

 I would have thought grits would be THE vegetarian dish.

 Man, I love grits!  If they're made right, that is.  Did you try them while
 you were here?  I made the horrible mistake once of ordering grits at a
 Denny's restaurant in Oakland.  I should have known better, what with having
 spent most of my life in the mid-west and south.  ;)

Never had the chance :-(

I was in NC for so short a time I didn't notice them on the menu at
either the hotel I stayed at overnight or at the GFM cafeteria.

Next time :-)

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread Cory Waters

I wish my definition of a bad crash left me able to post email messages...

Cory

AlunFoto wrote:

Jostein
whose computer has just crashed in a bad way.

  



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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread AlunFoto
2008/10/2 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I wish my definition of a bad crash left me able to post email messages...

The one at home suffers from an utterly failed BIOS upgrade. Bad
enough to require a replacement of the motherboard. :-(

Asu(ck)s.

Jostein


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Lens envy

2008-10-02 Thread Cory Waters
I'm heading out to the venerable old race track Road Atlanta today to 
set-up camp for the Petit Le Mans.  Old-timers here may remember some 
shots from me at that race a few years ago.  Most will remember Doug's 
shots of the turn-one crash a year or two ago that nearly clobbered him 
save for that nice big concrete barrier.


Anyway,  I'm feeling big glass envy something fierce this morning.  I'll 
be shooting mostly with my DA 50-200 when I really need a 70-200 2.8.  
Even better would be having a  1.7 or 2.0 TC to go with it.  I suppose 
the race isn't good enough reason to spend so much of Master Card's 
money on a lens I won't use all that often.  At least that's what she 
told me when I asked her for a grand or so to buy *another* lens.


So, anybody wana put their big fast glass in the hands of the shippers 
overnight so I can pick it up at the house tomorrow?


Yeah... oh well.

Cory
sad sack of bones, eh?


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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use Spyder2, and my monitor is a perfect match for my printer. I  
couldn't be more satisfied. It's a good, inexpensive tool. The  
Express version gives you the same sensor as the pro version. It just  
doesn't allow some of the software options, like setting up a second  
monitor.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks for the link, Boris.  Greatly appreciated.  I have a Pro  
Huey  I'm aware of the Spyder.  It's come down a bit in price.   
That's encouraging! Big cheers, Christine



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Christine, if you haven't done so, I humbly yet firmly ;-) suggest
that you buy a monitor calibration device, such as this:
http://tinyurl.com/3s86dv (link to Amazon.com) which is the one I
have. Or of course you can opt for more advanced and consequently  
more

expensive option. Worth every penny.




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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread Cory Waters

hmmm.  That does sound bad.
I've never been brave enough to do a BIOS update for fear of this very 
scenario.

May the Force be with you J.
CW


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2008/10/2 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

I wish my definition of a bad crash left me able to post email messages...



The one at home suffers from an utterly failed BIOS upgrade. Bad
enough to require a replacement of the motherboard. :-(

Asu(ck)s.

Jostein


  




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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I just checked out ColorVision's website, and it seems that they've  
introduced a Spyder 3 that's not available in the Express model. So  
what I said below about the sensor's being the same is no longer  
true. It also sounds like they've dumbed down the software on the  
Spyder 2 Express, and you can no longer choose gamma or color  
temperature. That's not good. What is good is that you can now buy  
the pro version of the Spyder 2 for only three bucks more than the  
Expess version. Look here:
http://www.amazon.com/ColorVision-Spyder2-Suite-Win-Mac/dp/B000ES6K34/ 
ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=softwareqid=1222951154sr=1-2
However, if I were buying a ColorVision calibration tool today, I'd  
go with the Spyder 3 Elite and spend a few more bucks to get their  
most advanced unit.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I use Spyder2, and my monitor is a perfect match for my printer. I  
couldn't be more satisfied. It's a good, inexpensive tool. The  
Express version gives you the same sensor as the pro version. It  
just doesn't allow some of the software options, like setting up a  
second monitor.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks for the link, Boris.  Greatly appreciated.  I have a Pro  
Huey  I'm aware of the Spyder.  It's come down a bit in price.   
That's encouraging! Big cheers, Christine



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Christine, if you haven't done so, I humbly yet firmly ;-) suggest
that you buy a monitor calibration device, such as this:
http://tinyurl.com/3s86dv (link to Amazon.com) which is the one I
have. Or of course you can opt for more advanced and consequently  
more

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Cory!
My main worry is to lose data, of course. I have backups of most, but
it's gonna be a significant job to rip all those music CDs again and
restore the TB of images.

What I will miss, though, is my photoshop actions. Never thought of
making a backup of them. :-(

Jostein

2008/10/2 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hmmm.  That does sound bad.
 I've never been brave enough to do a BIOS update for fear of this very
 scenario.
 May the Force be with you J.
 CW


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 2008/10/2 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 I wish my definition of a bad crash left me able to post email
 messages...


 The one at home suffers from an utterly failed BIOS upgrade. Bad
 enough to require a replacement of the motherboard. :-(

 Asu(ck)s.

 Jostein


  


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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread AlunFoto
 2008/10/2 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hmmm.  That does sound bad.

Btw,
story here: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/10/bios-woes.html
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Re: PESO Little Tourist---(aka Frame Intruders)

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, Cotty.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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In front of the Art Institute on Michigan Ave., Chicago

K10D, ISO 200, DA* 50-135mm-50mm, 1/320 sec @f4

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7927682size=lg



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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it?

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila


On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:33 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I was browsing around smugmug stuff for their calendar prices  (looks 
like they stopped offering those) and came up

with a page on BLURB  for making books -  Anyone here try it?


Ann:  In the most recent PDN magazine, there is an article on this topic and 
BLURB is discussed in the article.  Might want to check it out.  The sRGB 
point was mentioned as has been mentioned on the list.  HTH.  Cheers, 
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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

935234


Explanations welcome :-)


From reflections in the specs, it looks as if there is a large 
(sky-sized) bright light source behind you.  As you have exposed 
correctly, the camera has produced an image that has, if you like, the 
standard amount of light to produce a good, bright image.  The lighter 
clothes and beard have come out brighter than the darker background 
vegetation, as you would expect.


If I remember correctly, that light source might be a street lamp behind 
me--though can't be sure, but you're right:  there's light behind me coming 
from somewhere.  Thanks, Mike.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Lens envy

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, anybody wana put their big fast glass in the hands of the shippers
 overnight so I can pick it up at the house tomorrow?

How soon can you get a Nikon .:-)

I'll ship mine then,

Dave

 Yeah... oh well.

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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
BTW, I like this shot. The light is normal from an open sky source  
when shooting in the shade. Good work.

Paul
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From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/10/02 Thu AM 12:42:45 GMT
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Exposure Curiosity

Hi Everyone:

While in a shady park downtown at around 6:35 p.m., I took these  
photos of
my husband, Darrel.  It was really shady in the park, so as you  
can see I
bumped up the ISO and opened up the aperture.  When I looked at  
these in
Lightroom, I had to check to see if I had used the flash, but I  
didn't
remember doing so, and the metadata showed I didn't.  Doesn't it  
kinda look

like I did?  Or have my eyes just gone wonky?

Anyway, fun to get a true white of my husband's beard.  He started  
to turn

gray in high school, but now his hair  beard are white.


Darrel 1:  K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/13 sec @f2.8
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935227


Darrel 2: K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/30 sec @ f2.8
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935234

Explanations welcome :-)


From reflections in the specs, it looks as if there is a large  
(sky-sized) bright light source behind you.  As you have  
exposed correctly, the camera has produced an image that has, if  
you like, the standard amount of light to produce a good, bright  
image.  The lighter clothes and beard have come out brighter than  
the darker background vegetation, as you would expect.



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What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
have agreed to do one
after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and the
farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe not
so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
sharpest photo out to them.

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember how
to do that.
Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
and proccessing.



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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Paul:  Big thanks for the info on the Spyder.  I don't know if the Spyder 3 
is in my budget, but Spyder 2 could work.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Re: Exposure Curiosity


I just checked out ColorVision's website, and it seems that they've 
introduced a Spyder 3 that's not available in the Express model. So  what I 
said below about the sensor's being the same is no longer  true. It also 
sounds like they've dumbed down the software on the  Spyder 2 Express, and 
you can no longer choose gamma or color  temperature. That's not good. What 
is good is that you can now buy  the pro version of the Spyder 2 for only 
three bucks more than the  Expess version. Look here:
http://www.amazon.com/ColorVision-Spyder2-Suite-Win-Mac/dp/B000ES6K34/ 
ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=softwareqid=1222951154sr=1-2
However, if I were buying a ColorVision calibration tool today, I'd  go 
with the Spyder 3 Elite and spend a few more bucks to get their  most 
advanced unit.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I use Spyder2, and my monitor is a perfect match for my printer. I 
couldn't be more satisfied. It's a good, inexpensive tool. The  Express 
version gives you the same sensor as the pro version. It  just doesn't 
allow some of the software options, like setting up a  second monitor.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks for the link, Boris.  Greatly appreciated.  I have a Pro  Huey  
I'm aware of the Spyder.  It's come down a bit in price.   That's 
encouraging! Big cheers, Christine



- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Christine, if you haven't done so, I humbly yet firmly ;-) suggest
that you buy a monitor calibration device, such as this:
http://tinyurl.com/3s86dv (link to Amazon.com) which is the one I
have. Or of course you can opt for more advanced and consequently  more
expensive option. Worth every penny.




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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, Paul.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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BTW, I like this shot. The light is normal from an open sky source  when 
shooting in the shade. Good work.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 5:25 AM, mike wilson wrote:





From: Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/10/02 Thu AM 12:42:45 GMT
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Exposure Curiosity

Hi Everyone:

While in a shady park downtown at around 6:35 p.m., I took these  photos 
of
my husband, Darrel.  It was really shady in the park, so as you  can see 
I
bumped up the ISO and opened up the aperture.  When I looked at  these 
in

Lightroom, I had to check to see if I had used the flash, but I  didn't
remember doing so, and the metadata showed I didn't.  Doesn't it  kinda 
look

like I did?  Or have my eyes just gone wonky?

Anyway, fun to get a true white of my husband's beard.  He started  to 
turn

gray in high school, but now his hair  beard are white.


Darrel 1:  K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/13 sec @f2.8
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935227


Darrel 2: K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/30 sec @ f2.8
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935234

Explanations welcome :-)


From reflections in the specs, it looks as if there is a large 
(sky-sized) bright light source behind you.  As you have  exposed 
correctly, the camera has produced an image that has, if  you like, the 
standard amount of light to produce a good, bright  image.  The lighter 
clothes and beard have come out brighter than  the darker background 
vegetation, as you would expect.



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PESO Garden Meditation

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
In the same garden as the Santa picture :-).  In the spirit of full 
disclosure, I did clone out street images at the top of the frame, buildings 
and such.  The black is a hedge; I just made the hedge taller.  The street 
stuff was so distracting, so I got rid of it.


K10D DA * 50-135mm @ 80mm, ISO 800, 1/50 sec @ f2.8.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7938331

comments welcome
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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't do batch conversions when I shoot RAW. The advantage of RAW  
lies in the fine tuning that it allows you. One size fits all doesn't  
give you any real advantage over shooting jpegs. I use ACR, so I do  
sometimes start with last conversion when tweaking a shot. But it's  
rare that any two are identical. I use an action to downsize for the  
web pics, convert to SRGB and save for web.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
have agreed to do one
after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and the
farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe not
so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
sharpest photo out to them.

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember how
to do that.
Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
and proccessing.



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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
I don't have Lightroom, so I'd make adjustments in ACR, which can be 
batched if the originals are fairly similar to each other, then batch 
the conversion to jpegs in BBPro or FastStone.  Either BBPro or JAlbum 
would do a good job of generating a web album.


FWIW

-p

David J Brooks wrote:

I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
have agreed to do one
after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and the
farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe not
so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
sharpest photo out to them.

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember how
to do that.
Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread David Savage
2008/10/2 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
 have agreed to do one
 after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and the
 farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
 have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

 I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
 each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe not
 so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
 sharpest photo out to them.

 What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
 web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

 Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
 do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember how
 to do that.
 Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
 and processing.

Ligthroom is definitely the way to go.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
And wear good boots.  (I'd put a smiley, but I mean it.)

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts

David J Brooks wrote:


What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.


Lightroom is probably best for everything but the web page output. 
Everything I've seen of its HTML is godawful.



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OT: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Womer
It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife 
needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5.

(I know, it's a terrible thing...)

The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing?  Will a 
faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better?  

We don't use our computer for games.

Rick

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Re: OT: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread Adam Maas
The Video card affects UI responsiveness in OS X, but is only used for
photo processing by Aperture and iPhoto. The only way a faster video
card will affect Lightroom is by improving the responsiveness of the
overall GUI.

-Adam

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife 
 needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5.

 (I know, it's a terrible thing...)

 The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing?  Will a 
 faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better?

 We don't use our computer for games.

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Re: An interesting site...

2008-10-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Oct 1, 2008, at 6:13 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

 I'd disagree on the R8/R9, I find them to be among the worst handling
 pro SLR's I've tried (the older R's are worse, but really are
 mid-range bodies, not Pro bodies), the RTSIII is much nicer IMHO.

 Matter of opinion for sure. The R8-R9 fits my hands perfectly and I never
 needed to even look at a manual to understand every control. I had an RTS
 III for a short bit and never got friendly with it.

I'd agree, it's always opinion with this level of camera.


 The F3 handles very well, but the HP finder is an issue for
 non-glasses wearers when compared to the non-HP or F2 finders and the
 meter readout is awful compared to any of the F2 prisms.

 I wear glasses, I don't care about non-glasses wearers. ;-) Most of the
 supposedly wonderful viewfinders ... like the MX and OM-1... have too much
 magnification and too little eye relief for glasses wearers. The HP finder
 is the *best* viewfinder on any SLR I've own, except for the R8/R9, other
 than the fact that it's 100% coverage vs the 97% coverage of the Leica.

 The F3's in-finder meter readout isn't my favorite ... the FM2n's meter
 readout remains my favorite of all of my SLRs, just enough info and nothing
 more ... but it never really bothered me.

 Again, all a matter of opinion. It's great there are so many good choices
 out there.

 Godfrey

I agree on the MX and OM-1, not nearly enough eye relief even for
non-glasses wearers. The F2 and F3 non-HP finders are about perfect
for me.

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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it?

2008-10-02 Thread ann sanfedele
FIrst  - thanks to everyone who has given me some input on BLURB...  the 
scariest one being
the production run comments  David Savage mentioned even more so 
than the PITA kinda

stuff you mention below, Paul.



Stan Halpin wrote:




I find their templates too restrictive, their text handling to be  
primitive (in short, it hoovers), and many of the details  like  
backgrounds and borders and captions and headers/footers are  
somewhere between a royal pain and totally impossible to work with. 


sounds very annoying... What I've done for making calendar pages for 
cafepress was to
make the jpg file the size of the printed page - the photo and the 
caption for it sized in
photoshop - I used that technique for Lulu as well.  I'm very happy with 
the poetry and photo book from Lulu but that is because I broke all the 
rules - it was something of a PITA too.
I didn't use Lulu's photo book making stuff which sounds a lot like what 
you guys are
talking about with BLURB.  



Having said that, the quality is good. If your project doesn't demand  
too much, it is a good source. If you like everything to be just  
right, all of the text to line up, etc., you'll do a lot of fiddling. 


Guess I wouldn't be using it for everything I want to publish...



On balance, I will continue to use it for the several projects on my  
to-do list.


stan


Well Walt and others have commented favorably on the quality overall...
I downloaded the software but havent even fiddled with it at all... 
other fish need frying first.


Christine -
I don't know about PDN magazine... hope the article is on the web for 
free...:-) Sounds Like

I should investigate.

Except for the ARRP rag and Berkely wellness letters I don't get any 
magazines or newspapers

anymore.

so much to do so little time!  


Thanks everyone for input !

ann











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Re: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer

Subject: OT: iMac question


It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife 
needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5.


(I know, it's a terrible thing...)

The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing?  Will 
a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better?


Probably not.
Do try to find a card that has good support for things like colour 
management though.
FWIW, I'm not really happy with my Asus video card (NVidea) at the moment, 
as it just really doesn't seem to like me telling it what profiles I want 
for my monitors.


William Robb 



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Re: OT: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts

Adam Maas wrote:

The Video card affects UI responsiveness in OS X, but is only used for
photo processing by Aperture and iPhoto.


... until (if) you get Photoshop CS4.


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Re: GESO: Niece's wedding

2008-10-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Paul.  Your wedding photos are good and full of poses for me to
remember.  I suppose I could shoot some weddings, but the post
processing of the ones I shot in the dim church were a headache.  The
incandescent lights gave everything a yellow tint that I had trouble
removing.  It took me quite a while to get 60 photos together that I
was happy enough to give away.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've both done some very nice work. I love the dance floor shot on Rick's
 gallery and this one on Bob's:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/DianaEricWeddingPhotos#5252234006687202210.
 Lots of other good ones as well. If you have the time to spare, you should
 both consider getting out there and making some money shooting weddings. It
 can easily pay for some lenses and bodies.

 I've posted 72 of the 357 pics I converted and delivered from my last
 wedding. This was a tough one, because I was prepared to shoot an outdoor
 wedding but heavy rain forced the ceremony inside -- in the banquet hall
 where the reception would be held. Very few options for portraits and a
 tight venue for the ceremony. But everyone had fun, and they are happy with
 the pics.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=862803

 I shot weddings quite a few weddings thirty years ago but had long ago given
 it up. I'm doing some now because it's money there for the plucking, and
 it's a good photographic exercise. Of course the first time a mother beats
 me up, I'm out of there:-). But so far, it's been good.

 On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Rick,
 You've inspired me to show some wedding photos that I shot 9/6/08.
 They were of the neighbor's daughter - same age as my own daughter who
 was a bridesmaid.
 The deal was the same as yours.  I sat in the 3rd row and just shot
 quietly.  A gift of sorts...
 I used the K20D and the A85/1.4 in the dark...think focusing problems.
 I later added the AF540 flash with that light sphere at the reception.
 It makes a good addition to a flash package,  thanks Paul S. for the
 recommendation.
 Here are a few of the keepers.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/DianaEricWeddingPhotos#

 Comments and observations are welcome!
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our niece got married a month ago, and of course I brought my camera
 along.  My shooting position was limited to the aisle seat in the third row
 of the chapel, but I got some reasonable shots anyway.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=865503

 K10D and FA 24-90, ISO 560-800, RAW via LR.  The 16-45 didn't give me the
 reach I needed, and the 24-90 worked nicely for the purpose.  That is
 still my favorite lens.

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread ann sanfedele



Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don't do batch conversions when I shoot RAW. The advantage of RAW  
lies in the fine tuning that it allows you. One size fits all doesn't  
give you any real advantage over shooting jpegs.


Me too --  I shoot raw, bring into photoshop elements, tweak exposure 
sometimes before I actually open the file, then adjust size in 
elements... always saving one tweaked file as
TIFF to fiddle with later without going back to the raw file.  Then I 
adjust res to 72 ppi and
save file  to srgb - I DONT use the 'save for web' option ever because I 
noticed if I use

that feature in elements the exif data gets clobbered...

ann

' I use ACR, so I do  sometimes start with last conversion when 
tweaking a shot. But it's  rare that any two are identical. I use an 
action to downsize for the  web pics, convert to SRGB and save for web.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
have agreed to do one
after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and the
farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe not
so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
sharpest photo out to them.

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember how
to do that.
Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
and proccessing.



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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Womer
You should definitely shoot raw with the K10D as well as the D200.  The 
camera-generated jpgs from the K10D aren't very sharp.  

Rick

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--- On Thu, 10/2/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: What's the best way to go about this shoot
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 9:41 AM
 I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my
 site, but i
 have agreed to do one
 after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a
 friend, and the
 farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
 have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.
 
 I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30
 shots minimum of
 each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in
 Raw. Maybe not
 so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get
 the best,
 sharpest photo out to them.
 
 What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg,
 to make a
 web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.
 
 Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i
 only need to
 do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i
 remember how
 to do that.
 Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch
 conversions
 and proccessing.
 
 
 
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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
I guess our spouses get tired of posing for us. :-)
They are nice portraits, but the folded arms are a hostile body language signal.
I like #2 better as his kinder face and eyes are more prominent.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Oct 1, 2008, at 19:42, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Everyone:

 While in a shady park downtown at around 6:35 p.m., I took these photos of
 my husband, Darrel.  It was really shady in the park, so as you can see I
 bumped up the ISO and opened up the aperture.  When I looked at these in
 Lightroom, I had to check to see if I had used the flash, but I didn't
 remember doing so, and the metadata showed I didn't.  Doesn't it kinda
 look
 like I did?  Or have my eyes just gone wonky?


 Great light.  Great!

 Doesn't look like a flash, though.

 Anyway, fun to get a true white of my husband's beard.  He started to turn
 gray in high school, but now his hair  beard are white.

 Darrel 1:  K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/13 sec @f2.8
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935227


 Darrel 2: K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/30 sec @ f2.8
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935234


 For whatever reason, I prefer Darrel 1 to Darrel 2

 Explanations welcome :-)

 Subject is receiving more light than the dark background???  How's that?

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Just do it all in LR. It's good enough.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


David J Brooks wrote:


What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.


Lightroom is probably best for everything but the web page output.  
Everything I've seen of its HTML is godawful.



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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

You can do all the same stuff.. One at a time or in big batch groups.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 8:03 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Paul Stenquist wrote:

I don't do batch conversions when I shoot RAW. The advantage of  
RAW  lies in the fine tuning that it allows you. One size fits all  
doesn't  give you any real advantage over shooting jpegs.


Me too --  I shoot raw, bring into photoshop elements, tweak  
exposure sometimes before I actually open the file, then adjust size  
in elements... always saving one tweaked file as
TIFF to fiddle with later without going back to the raw file.  Then  
I adjust res to 72 ppi and
save file  to srgb - I DONT use the 'save for web' option ever  
because I noticed if I use

that feature in elements the exif data gets clobbered...

ann

' I use ACR, so I do  sometimes start with last conversion when  
tweaking a shot. But it's  rare that any two are identical. I use  
an action to downsize for the  web pics, convert to SRGB and save  
for web.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
have agreed to do one
after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and  
the

farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe  
not

so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
sharpest photo out to them.

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember  
how

to do that.
Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
and proccessing.



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Re: OT: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Very little effect if any at all.
The iMac 24 is an excellent photo workstation.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as  
my wife needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5.


(I know, it's a terrible thing...)

The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing?   
Will a faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better?


We don't use our computer for games.

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Re: gatherings

2008-10-02 Thread Amita Guha
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 20/8/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

 It seems this year has been rather short on PDML gatherings.  What's up
 with that?  And who wants to invite me over for dinner?

 I fancy an NYPDML - anyone keen?

 Dates I can make:

 week of October 13

 week of November 17


Hey, is there still going to be an NYPDML this month? Cotty? Scott?

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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Ken Waller

Anyone know of the difference between Spyder2  Photocal?

I've been using Photocal for 5 years  have been very happy with the 
results.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: Exposure Curiosity


I use Spyder2, and my monitor is a perfect match for my printer. I 
couldn't be more satisfied. It's a good, inexpensive tool. The  Express 
version gives you the same sensor as the pro version. It just  doesn't 
allow some of the software options, like setting up a second  monitor.

Paul
On Oct 2, 2008, at 1:40 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks for the link, Boris.  Greatly appreciated.  I have a Pro  Huey  
I'm aware of the Spyder.  It's come down a bit in price.   That's 
encouraging! Big cheers, Christine



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Christine, if you haven't done so, I humbly yet firmly ;-) suggest
that you buy a monitor calibration device, such as this:
http://tinyurl.com/3s86dv (link to Amazon.com) which is the one I
have. Or of course you can opt for more advanced and consequently  more
expensive option. Worth every penny.



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Re: PESO Garden Meditation

2008-10-02 Thread Ken Waller

Nice image, but I find the background white spots distracting.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: PESO Garden Meditation


In the same garden as the Santa picture :-).  In the spirit of full 
disclosure, I did clone out street images at the top of the frame, 
buildings and such.  The black is a hedge; I just made the hedge taller. 
The street stuff was so distracting, so I got rid of it.


K10D DA * 50-135mm @ 80mm, ISO 800, 1/50 sec @ f2.8.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7938331

comments welcome
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PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread frank theriault
Several weeks ago Judy (the GF) and I were asked to shoot something
called the Green Culture Festival.  Of course it was for free, but we
had fun anyway and shot lots of piccies.  Part of the festival was a
fashion show of environmentally friendly clothes - made of hemp,
non-irritating dyes, that sort of thing.  The shots (due to horrendous
backgrounds and the like) were nothing to write home about for the
most part.

There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this little girl got
on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:

http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg

Hope you enjoy!

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Re: OT: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread Jim King

Rick Womer wrote on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:08:32 -0700
It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as  
my wife

needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5.

(I know, it's a terrible thing...)

The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing?   
Will a

faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better?

We don't use our computer for games.


The iMac comes with a built-in video card so you don't have any  
choices as to
which card you use.  However, as Godfrey says, the built-in cord in  
the 24 iMac
is very good for photo processing work; I'm sure that you won't be  
disappointed
if you get this model.  However, the 20 iMac has a less capable LCD  
screen

than the 24, so get the latter if you can.

Regards, Jim

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
I just looked at BBpro to see what files from the K10D it liked and it
read the DNG files ok. I forgot to see if it will read the Nikon Nef
files, i have an older version.

I can do my web pages that way, but i wwas just wondering what would
be best for doing alll of the adjustments and jpgs for the final CD.
Sounds like the Lightroom program is my best option here, for that. I
can do the batch adjustment from it. I;m just not that good with PS's
batch stuff.:-)

Thanks all, and Rick, i'll do that.

Dave

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 Just do it all in LR. It's good enough.

 Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

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 David J Brooks wrote:

 What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
 web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

 Lightroom is probably best for everything but the web page output.
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Re: GESO: Niece's wedding

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
Good stuff there Paul.

Are you using that Gary Fong thing on these. If so, it works well.

What do you find, if any, you need to adjust on the flash.

Dave

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've both done some very nice work. I love the dance floor shot on Rick's
 gallery and this one on Bob's:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/DianaEricWeddingPhotos#5252234006687202210.
 Lots of other good ones as well. If you have the time to spare, you should
 both consider getting out there and making some money shooting weddings. It
 can easily pay for some lenses and bodies.

 I've posted 72 of the 357 pics I converted and delivered from my last
 wedding. This was a tough one, because I was prepared to shoot an outdoor
 wedding but heavy rain forced the ceremony inside -- in the banquet hall
 where the reception would be held. Very few options for portraits and a
 tight venue for the ceremony. But everyone had fun, and they are happy with
 the pics.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=862803

 I shot weddings quite a few weddings thirty years ago but had long ago given
 it up. I'm doing some now because it's money there for the plucking, and
 it's a good photographic exercise. Of course the first time a mother beats
 me up, I'm out of there:-). But so far, it's been good.

 On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Rick,
 You've inspired me to show some wedding photos that I shot 9/6/08.
 They were of the neighbor's daughter - same age as my own daughter who
 was a bridesmaid.
 The deal was the same as yours.  I sat in the 3rd row and just shot
 quietly.  A gift of sorts...
 I used the K20D and the A85/1.4 in the dark...think focusing problems.
 I later added the AF540 flash with that light sphere at the reception.
 It makes a good addition to a flash package,  thanks Paul S. for the
 recommendation.
 Here are a few of the keepers.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/DianaEricWeddingPhotos#

 Comments and observations are welcome!
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our niece got married a month ago, and of course I brought my camera
 along.  My shooting position was limited to the aisle seat in the third row
 of the chapel, but I got some reasonable shots anyway.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=865503

 K10D and FA 24-90, ISO 560-800, RAW via LR.  The 16-45 didn't give me the
 reach I needed, and the 24-90 worked nicely for the purpose.  That is
 still my favorite lens.

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Re: GESO: Niece's wedding

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, Paul!  I have plenty of stress from my day job, though; I don't know 
 about adding to it with paid weddings on the weekends!

Same here. It takes all weekend to get that bus screaming out of my
head.:-). Its hard enough to plan one let along shoot one, plus give
daughter away with camera slung over shoulder.
LOL



Dave

 Rick

 --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You've both done some very nice work. I love the dance
 floor shot on
 Rick's gallery and this one on Bob's:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/
 DianaEricWeddingPhotos#5252234006687202210.
 Lots of other good ones as well. If you have the time to
 spare, you
 should both consider getting out there and making some
 money shooting
 weddings. It can easily pay for some lenses and bodies.

 I've posted 72 of the 357 pics I converted and
 delivered from my last
 wedding. This was a tough one, because I was prepared to
 shoot an
 outdoor wedding but heavy rain forced the ceremony inside
 -- in the
 banquet hall where the reception would be held. Very few
 options for
 portraits and a tight venue for the ceremony. But everyone
 had fun,
 and they are happy with the pics.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=862803

 I shot weddings quite a few weddings thirty years ago but
 had long
 ago given it up. I'm doing some now because it's
 money there for the
 plucking, and it's a good photographic exercise. Of
 course the first
 time a mother beats me up, I'm out of there:-). But so
 far, it's been
 good.

 On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

  Rick,
  You've inspired me to show some wedding photos
 that I shot 9/6/08.
  They were of the neighbor's daughter - same age as
 my own daughter who
  was a bridesmaid.
  The deal was the same as yours.  I sat in the 3rd row
 and just shot
  quietly.  A gift of sorts...
  I used the K20D and the A85/1.4 in the dark...think
 focusing problems.
  I later added the AF540 flash with that light sphere
 at the reception.
  It makes a good addition to a flash package, 
 thanks Paul S. for the
  recommendation.
  Here are a few of the keepers.
 
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/DianaEricWeddingPhotos#
 
  Comments and observations are welcome!
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Rick Womer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Our niece got married a month ago, and of course I
 brought my
  camera along.  My shooting position was limited to
 the aisle seat
  in the third row of the chapel, but I got some
 reasonable shots
  anyway.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=865503
 
  K10D and FA 24-90, ISO 560-800, RAW via LR.  The
 16-45 didn't give
  me the reach I needed, and the 24-90
 worked nicely for the
  purpose.  That is still my favorite lens.
 
  Rick
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: OT: iMac question

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
Let us know how you like it Rick.

If and when i need to upgrade, the imac is what i'v been looking at.

Good to know about the 20-24 screens

Dave

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Jim King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rick Womer wrote on Thu, 02 Oct 2008 07:08:32 -0700

 It looks as though we will be upgrading to an Intel-based iMac, as my wife
 needs to use software that won't run on a PowerPC G5.

 (I know, it's a terrible thing...)

 The question: How much does the video card affect photo processing?  Will
 a
 faster video card with more memory make Lightroom run better?

 We don't use our computer for games.

 The iMac comes with a built-in video card so you don't have any choices as
 to
 which card you use.  However, as Godfrey says, the built-in cord in the 24
 iMac
 is very good for photo processing work; I'm sure that you won't be
 disappointed
 if you get this model.  However, the 20 iMac has a less capable LCD screen
 than the 24, so get the latter if you can.

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Re: PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
Now thats a great facial expression.

Dave

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Several weeks ago Judy (the GF) and I were asked to shoot something
 called the Green Culture Festival.  Of course it was for free, but we
 had fun anyway and shot lots of piccies.  Part of the festival was a
 fashion show of environmentally friendly clothes - made of hemp,
 non-irritating dyes, that sort of thing.  The shots (due to horrendous
 backgrounds and the like) were nothing to write home about for the
 most part.

 There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this little girl got
 on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:

 http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg

 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg

 Hope you enjoy!

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Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts
I'm turning over my ist-D to my parents and need a basic lens to put on 
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OT? Insurance

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
For any of you out there shooting weddings, action etc, do you carry
additional insurance
over and above what your home insurance rider would cover.??

Mostly curious if you have seperate liability.

I'm finding that 45-48% of my expenses are insurance. Looking for a
work around if is keep shooting equine or do any weddings.

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Re: PESO Garden Meditation

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
Good angle on this one.

Dave

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the same garden as the Santa picture :-).  In the spirit of full
 disclosure, I did clone out street images at the top of the frame, buildings
 and such.  The black is a hedge; I just made the hedge taller.  The street
 stuff was so distracting, so I got rid of it.

 K10D DA * 50-135mm @ 80mm, ISO 800, 1/50 sec @ f2.8.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7938331

 comments welcome
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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread David J Brooks
Its grey until you get it, then its SILVER.:-)

I thing the exposure is good.

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Re: An interesting site...

2008-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling

Of course it's $2000 better, it says Leitz Wetzlar on it, doesn't it?

John Sessoms wrote:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know if you know this site:
http://www.leitax.com/index.html

But I found it really interesting... Sharp Leica lens on Pentax K? 
Sounds
really promising to me  :) 


It is interesting, but I'm not sure I see any advantage. It's 68 Euros 
for the adapter, which I understand permanently attaches to the lens 
so it will fit the K-bayonent, so I could then do stopped down 
metering with the lens mounted.


Looking at eBay for Leica R lenses as suggested, I found a Leica 
Elmarit-R 24mm F/2.8 Lens for $1,199.00


... but I already have a Pentax 24mm F/2.8 SMC A lens that seems to me 
to be excellent glass, AND it doesn't require stop down metering with 
my K10D.


If I didn't have that lens, I could have it in two days from KEH EX+ 
for $325.


Ok, I'll grant Leica made a better lens, but is it $2000 better?

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling

John Sessoms wrote:

From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

frank theriault wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM, John Sessoms 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
  

 All of the special programs at Grandfather Mountain, including the
 photography weekends, mean a lot of money to NC; more than just 
the few

 dollars you spend inside the park.
 


 Yeah, like when me and Chainsaw buy biscuits and gravy at local 
greasy spoons.


 Oops, I don't do biscuits and gravy any more.  I'll have to try the
 local vegan delicacy next year...

  ;-) 
 cheers,
 frank
   

I think a Vegan delicacy in back country NC is fried squirrel...



Okra, squash  turnip greens.

Fried in rendered pork fat...

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Re: Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?

2008-10-02 Thread Ken Waller

I got a rather nice one a few weeks back from KEH.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?


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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread P. J. Alling

David Savage wrote:

2008/10/2 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

frank theriault wrote:


cheers,
frank (still evangelical about eating cruelty-free)

  

Plants have feelings too!



Yeah but they have no way to give voice to them, so who cares?

Cheers,

Dave
  

Psionics...


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Re: PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Womer
Excellent shot; and it was most cooperative of her to wear a colorful dress!

Rick

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--- On Thu, 10/2/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - It's Mommy!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:50 PM
 Several weeks ago Judy (the GF) and I were asked to shoot
 something
 called the Green Culture Festival.  Of course it was for
 free, but we
 had fun anyway and shot lots of piccies.  Part of the
 festival was a
 fashion show of environmentally friendly clothes - made of
 hemp,
 non-irritating dyes, that sort of thing.  The shots (due to
 horrendous
 backgrounds and the like) were nothing to write home about
 for the
 most part.
 
 There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this
 little girl got
 on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg
 
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg
 
 Hope you enjoy!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Sorenson

That one made me chuckle...she's literally excited from head to toe.

-p

frank theriault wrote:

Several weeks ago Judy (the GF) and I were asked to shoot something
called the Green Culture Festival.  Of course it was for free, but we
had fun anyway and shot lots of piccies.  Part of the festival was a
fashion show of environmentally friendly clothes - made of hemp,
non-irritating dyes, that sort of thing.  The shots (due to horrendous
backgrounds and the like) were nothing to write home about for the
most part.

There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this little girl got
on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:

http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg

Hope you enjoy!

cheers,
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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anyone know of the difference between Spyder2  Photocal?

I've been using Photocal for 5 years  have been very happy with the 
results.


Kenneth Waller


Photocal is the calibration software that came with the Spyder 
calibration device I bought several years ago.


Don't know about Spyder2; I've got the first generation device.

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Pine Creek Rail Trail

2008-10-02 Thread Scott Loveless
This weekend Christie is dropping me and 'Bone' 
http://bonius.com/blog/ off at the northern terminus of the Pine Creek 
Rail Trail, which runs through the bottom of the Pine Creek Gorge (aka 
The Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania).  We'll depart around noon and ride 
south to Black Walnut Bottom, camp there, and then finish the ride 
Sunday afternoon-ish in Jersey Shore, PA.  About 65 miles total.  Should 
be a fun time, weather looks good (low of 32F Saturday night!), and now 
I just have to decide whether to bring a digital PS or the PZ-1 and a 
ton of chrome.  Decisions, decisions..


Anyway, the bike's almost ready to go. 
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RE: Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?

2008-10-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm turning over my ist-D to my parents and need a basic lens to put on 
it. I'd rather deal with PDML folks than eekBay...


You might try KEH. They're showing several 18-55 F3.5-5.6 SMC DA AL

Priced $39 (BGN) to $65 (LN)

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Re: PESO Garden Meditation

2008-10-02 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the same garden as the Santa picture :-).  In the spirit of full
 disclosure, I did clone out street images at the top of the frame, buildings
 and such.  The black is a hedge; I just made the hedge taller.  The street
 stuff was so distracting, so I got rid of it.

 K10D DA * 50-135mm @ 80mm, ISO 800, 1/50 sec @ f2.8.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7938331

Very calming and placid photo.  She looks so serene!  Well caught,
nice conversion.

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Re: PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread Jack Davis
Terrific catch, Frank. Worth the free piccies.

Jack


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO - It's Mommy!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 9:50 AM
 Several weeks ago Judy (the GF) and I were asked to shoot
 something
 called the Green Culture Festival.  Of course it was for
 free, but we
 had fun anyway and shot lots of piccies.  Part of the
 festival was a
 fashion show of environmentally friendly clothes - made of
 hemp,
 non-irritating dyes, that sort of thing.  The shots (due to
 horrendous
 backgrounds and the like) were nothing to write home about
 for the
 most part.
 
 There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this
 little girl got
 on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg
 
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg
 
 Hope you enjoy!
 
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 frank
 
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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread mike wilson

AlunFoto wrote:


2008/10/2 Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 


I wish my definition of a bad crash left me able to post email messages...
   



The one at home suffers from an utterly failed BIOS upgrade. Bad
enough to require a replacement of the motherboard. :-(

Asu(ck)s.
 



Bummer.  It worked perfectly for me - you can even do it using the OS.  
Can't the importer send you a new bios chip?  Or is that too simple a 
solution?  It's not that old, is it?


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Re: Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?

2008-10-02 Thread Carlos Royo



Mark Roberts escribió:
I'm turning over my ist-D to my parents and need a basic lens to put on 
it. I'd rather deal with PDML folks than eekBay...





I have got two 18-55 lenses, and only need one. I can sell you a boxed, 
like new 18-55. On the other hand, I don't know how much it would be a 
reasonable price, and shipping from Spain to the US might be expensive.


Carlos

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Re: Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm turning over my ist-D to my parents and need a basic lens to put 
on it. I'd rather deal with PDML folks than eekBay...


You might try KEH. They're showing several 18-55 F3.5-5.6 SMC DA AL

Priced $39 (BGN) to $65 (LN)


Thanks! It's been so long since I visited their site I hadn't thought of 
checking KEH - they're selling that lens for less than it goes for on 
eBay! And on the other hand, they're asking $645.00 for a DA 12-24 when 
that lens sells for just 70 bucks more NEW at BH! Go figure...


BTW: I got at least one of the Army Corps of Engineers contracts I 
mentioned a couple of weeks ago. I'll know about the other soon. A lens 
like the 12-24 could come in handy (I did the first shoot for the job 
this morning).


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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread AlunFoto
2008/10/2 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Bummer.  It worked perfectly for me - you can even do it using the OS.
  Can't the importer send you a new bios chip?  Or is that too simple a
 solution?  It's not that old, is it?

Just a year old, but out of production. I talked to someone today who
told me warranties would actually apply, but it will take like 3 weeks
to have it honored. The EPROM chip is soldered onto this particular
motherboard so there's no other way than to send the whole thing away
for replacement, and I'll probably get a corresponding model for
replacement.

But hey, this is thread hijacking... I just used it as an excuse for a
bit of bashing.

How about you coming to GFM next year, Mike? :-)

Jostein



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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson wrote:



Bummer.  It worked perfectly for me - you can even do it using the OS.  
Can't the importer send you a new bios chip?  Or is that too simple a 
solution?  It's not that old, is it?


Any recent motherboard probably has the BIOS on a surface-mount chip 
soldered to the board.



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Re: Pentax service question...

2008-10-02 Thread Charles Robinson

On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:22, Charles Robinson wrote:


Failing that - are there human beings who can be reached on the  
other end of a phone line to make sure this problem is actually  
addressed?  Seems to me that the repair notes which came back with  
the lens in July:


...All function have been returned to factory specifications


..adjust autofocus circuit and test with AF body

and

..Adjust focus and test for all proper operation

Should have done the trick, but it didn't.  I'm wondering if I'm  
wasting $20 on shipping to get the same (defective) lens back again  
and I'm looking for any way to be more sure that something is  
actually fixed this time.




Lens came back today:

..adjust autofocus circuit and test with AF body

..Adjust focus and test for all proper operation

...But this time, it really WORKS.  Yay!

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John Sessoms wrote:

 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 frank theriault wrote:



  Oops, I don't do biscuits and gravy any more.  I'll have to try the
  local vegan delicacy next year...




 I think a Vegan delicacy in back country NC is fried squirrel...



 Okra, squash  turnip greens.

Fried in rendered pork fat...


All right! Now you're talkin' down home cookin'!

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:19 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/10/2 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Plants have feelings too!

 For a certain value of feelings. Which is currently far less even
 than the value of certain financial institutions in the US. of A...
 :-)

 Jostein
 whose computer has just crashed in a bad way.

Well, many plants ~want~ us to eat them.  Fruits, anyway, and seeds
like legumes and the like.  We eat them, poop them out, spread the
seeds as it were.  It makes them happy.

My computer crashed too.  Okay, it didn't so much crash as it was
dropped, but it says it can't find an operating system.  I believe
that's not a good thing.  I've got a few things I can try before
bringing it for servicing, but I sure have a lot of pix on that hard
drive that haven't been backed up yet.

:-(

Plus, it's the only computer I have that has PS on it.

:-(

Wish me luck (as I wish you luck with your crash).

cheers,
frank



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Leica S2 flyer from BH

2008-10-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
Just got an email flyer from BH about the S2.  It says you can get up
to 400 RAW images on a 32 GB card.  For some reason, that amuses me. 
;-)

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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts

frank theriault wrote:


Well, many plants ~want~ us to eat them.  Fruits, anyway, and seeds
like legumes and the like.  We eat them, poop them out, spread the
seeds as it were.  It makes them happy.


Someone once said, I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a 
vegetarian because I hate plants!



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Re: Leica S2 flyer from BH

2008-10-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
So the Raw images are roughly 4 times the size of the ones from my K20D
(300+ on an 8 GB card)
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO Garden Meditation

2008-10-02 Thread Brian Walters
Very calming image!

The bright spots on the background distract from the main image - they
could possibly be toned down a bit.


Cheers

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:45:54 -0500, Christine  Aguila
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 In the same garden as the Santa picture :-).  In the spirit of full 
 disclosure, I did clone out street images at the top of the frame,
 buildings 
 and such.  The black is a hedge; I just made the hedge taller.  The
 street 
 stuff was so distracting, so I got rid of it.
 
 K10D DA * 50-135mm @ 80mm, ISO 800, 1/50 sec @ f2.8.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7938331
 
 comments welcome
 Cheers, Christine 
 
 
 
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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread mike wilson

AlunFoto wrote:


2008/10/2 mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 


Bummer.  It worked perfectly for me - you can even do it using the OS.
Can't the importer send you a new bios chip?  Or is that too simple a
solution?  It's not that old, is it?
   



Just a year old, but out of production. I talked to someone today who
told me warranties would actually apply, but it will take like 3 weeks
to have it honored. The EPROM chip is soldered onto this particular
motherboard so there's no other way than to send the whole thing away
for replacement, and I'll probably get a corresponding model for
replacement.

But hey, this is thread hijacking... I just used it as an excuse for a
bit of bashing.

How about you coming to GFM next year, Mike? :-)
 

Off to the fourth wedding this year next weekend, with another before 
Christmas.  At the moment, I can hardly afford to go to work.


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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread Doug


On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:15 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Off to the fourth wedding this year next weekend, with another  
before Christmas.  At the moment, I can hardly afford to go to  
work.


you should probably stop getting married.

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Re: Anyone got an 18-55 kit lens (or similar) to sell?

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Mark:  Good news:  I have this lens to sell.  It has a Quantaray UV 52mm 
filter as well, which I'd sell with it.  Lens came with K10D, which I 
purchased in April of 2007.  It's been hardly used.  Bad news:  I don't have 
the original box.  Let me know off list if your interested.  I'm in Chicago. 
You'll get my spam blocker thingy, but don't worry; I'll look for you and 
add your email address.  Cheers, Christine



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I'm turning over my ist-D to my parents and need a basic lens to put on 
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Re: PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/08, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this little girl got
on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:

http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/
pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg

Hope you enjoy!

I rather like that Frank.

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Re: PESO Garden Meditation

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Brian, Frank, David, and Ken:  Big thanks for the feedback.  I wanted to 
clone out the bright spots, but I thought I'd toss the pic out there to see 
if there were any objections, which there were, so I'm gonna deal with them. 
Groovy!  Thanks again.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine



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Very calming image!

The bright spots on the background distract from the main image - they
could possibly be toned down a bit.


Cheers

Brian

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On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:45:54 -0500, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

In the same garden as the Santa picture :-).  In the spirit of full
disclosure, I did clone out street images at the top of the frame,
buildings
and such.  The black is a hedge; I just made the hedge taller.  The
street
stuff was so distracting, so I got rid of it.

K10D DA * 50-135mm @ 80mm, ISO 800, 1/50 sec @ f2.8.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7938331

comments welcome
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Re: PESO - It's Mommy!

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Great shot, Frank!  Great timing, good color, great composition.  It's a 
doosey! :-)  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO - It's Mommy!



Several weeks ago Judy (the GF) and I were asked to shoot something
called the Green Culture Festival.  Of course it was for free, but we
had fun anyway and shot lots of piccies.  Part of the festival was a
fashion show of environmentally friendly clothes - made of hemp,
non-irritating dyes, that sort of thing.  The shots (due to horrendous
backgrounds and the like) were nothing to write home about for the
most part.

There were kids' fashions being shown, and when this little girl got
on stage, she saw her mother and got quite excited:

http://tinyurl.com/4w8feg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SOTW1evUBJI/DPI/pn4f16cEmCI/s1600-h/sept_19_08+004.jpg

Hope you enjoy!

cheers,
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Re: GFM sold

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila

From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]




On Oct 2, 2008, at 6:15 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Off to the fourth wedding this year next weekend, with another  before 
Christmas.  At the moment, I can hardly afford to go to  work.


you should probably stop getting married.


LOL.  You know this reminds me of a guy I knew once who had just resolved 
his 4th divorce so that he could marry for the 5th time.  You sure you want 
to do that?  I asked.  Christine,  he said, it's only a hobby. :-)




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OT? Ink Jet Ink

2008-10-02 Thread Doug

Time to get some more ink for the Epson 2880.

Anyone have favorite vendors?

thanks

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Re: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Bob.  Normally I'd agree with you about the body language, but 
that's a typical pose for Darrel.  Also, he'll pose for me any time, but he 
rarely smiles--but his clever one-liners do keep everyone around him in 
giggles and smiles.  Cheers, Christine



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Christine,
I guess our spouses get tired of posing for us. :-)
They are nice portraits, but the folded arms are a hostile body language 
signal.

I like #2 better as his kinder face and eyes are more prominent.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On Oct 1, 2008, at 19:42, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

While in a shady park downtown at around 6:35 p.m., I took these photos 
of
my husband, Darrel.  It was really shady in the park, so as you can see 
I

bumped up the ISO and opened up the aperture.  When I looked at these in
Lightroom, I had to check to see if I had used the flash, but I didn't
remember doing so, and the metadata showed I didn't.  Doesn't it kinda
look
like I did?  Or have my eyes just gone wonky?



Great light.  Great!

Doesn't look like a flash, though.

Anyway, fun to get a true white of my husband's beard.  He started to 
turn

gray in high school, but now his hair  beard are white.

Darrel 1:  K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/13 sec @f2.8
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935227


Darrel 2: K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/30 sec @ f2.8
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935234



For whatever reason, I prefer Darrel 1 to Darrel 2


Explanations welcome :-)


Subject is receiving more light than the dark background???  How's that?

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Re: OT? Ink Jet Ink

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Doug:  I've been buying ink at Calumet Photo in Chicago, but they sell it on 
line as well: http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/IM53496%20/
Amazon was about $17 something a cartridge the last time I looked. Maybe 
it's gone down.   I really haven't done any research on line for something 
cheaper than Calumet.  Cheers, Christine



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Time to get some more ink for the Epson 2880.

Anyone have favorite vendors?

thanks

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Dave:  The only thing I'd add is don't forget about the copy and past 
settings feature.  Say you batch process, then say you want to tweak say 5 
shots of the batch that might be under similar light conditions etc, tweak 
one shot, copy the settings, then paste those settings to the other 4 shots. 
Just another tool to cut down on post-processing time.  Just an idea I 
thought I'd throw out there.  HTH.  Cheers, Christine



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I don't do farm shoots, even though it says i do on my site, but i
have agreed to do one
after our Thanksgiving long weekend. The one lady is a friend, and the
farm is right on the Vivian forest, so should
have lots of colour to work with, and thats what they want.

I'll be doing CD's for them, probably taking 20-30 shots minimum of
each. I was thinking of the D200 and K10D, but shoot in Raw. Maybe not
so much for the K10D, but raw for the D200, so i can get the best,
sharpest photo out to them.

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to make a
web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.

Lightroom is what i'm thinking would be best, then if i only need to
do a small change i can apply it to the batch,, i think i remember how
to do that.
Any ideas from the raw shooters on how you do your batch conversions
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OT: Photoshop Disasters

2008-10-02 Thread John Celio

http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2008/10/lexar-8gb.html

I love the Photoshop Disasters blog, and I thought this particular post 
might be appropriate for this group of frequent memory card users.


Somewhere, a graphic designer is hanging his head in shame.

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Re: OT? Ink Jet Ink

2008-10-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

http://www.atlex.com

Ink carts for the 2880 are $11.72 apiece.
I have been buying ink and paper from them for a year or two. Very  
reliable, fast service.


G

On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:08 PM, Doug wrote:


Time to get some more ink for the Epson 2880.

Anyone have favorite vendors?

thanks

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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

I do nearly 100% of my work entirely in Lightroom 2.
Individual edits, edits on groups of photos, export to finals, web  
pages, printing.


It's good enough for the whole job. I don't bother wasting time  
switching tools unless I have to.


G

On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


I just looked at BBpro to see what files from the K10D it liked and it
read the DNG files ok. I forgot to see if it will read the Nikon Nef
files, i have an older version.

I can do my web pages that way, but i wwas just wondering what would
be best for doing alll of the adjustments and jpgs for the final CD.
Sounds like the Lightroom program is my best option here, for that. I
can do the batch adjustment from it. I;m just not that good with PS's
batch stuff.:-)

Thanks all, and Rick, i'll do that.

Dave

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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Just do it all in LR. It's good enough.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


David J Brooks wrote:

What do you think would be the best way to convert to jpg, to  
make a

web page, and do the adjustments for the CD's.


Lightroom is probably best for everything but the web page output.
Everything I've seen of its HTML is godawful.



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Re: book maiking with BLURB - anyone try it? [Workflow note]

2008-10-02 Thread Stan Halpin

Thanks Paul. However:

FotoFusion photo layout software is currently not available for the  
Mac.


Oh well.

stan

On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:58 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


Stan -

You may want to look at FotoFusion, by LumaPix.

http://lumapix.com/

Create your pages, including text and single or multiple images  
they way you want the layout to look, with the canvas sized for the  
full BookSmart page size.  Save the pages in native format if you  
think you may need future editing, then export the page to a jpg  
file.  Then pull that jpg into BookSmart using a full page  
template.  You can create unique layouts then that you can't get in  
BookSmart, with probably less work and anxiety than the workflow  
you outlined below.


There are three versions of FotoFusion (and three price points).   
Unless you need output larger than about 13 x 19 (inches) the mid  
version (Enhanced) should work well.


-p

Stan Halpin wrote:

Some more info on working with Blurb...
 I imagine you'll get better quality if you size the photos in  
good photo-processing software rather than let Blurb do it for  
you. That is what Blurb says, and it makes  sense. So you have a  
bunch of 3000x2000 images on your hard drive or maybe 1500x1000  
images on SmugMug. But they need to be re-sized...

My work flow working with photos on my drive:
a. Decide on the general content of the next page or two as  
the story unfolds.
b. Go into Lightroom, find the 3-8 images I'll be using next.  
E.g, next I need one of the better hummingbird shots, one or two  
butterflys, maybe a shot of one of the group members in the  
butterfly farm. [Images previously appropriately sorted into order  
and rated 1-5 stars; thus, related images are together, and I  
don't need to revisit the question of which of several similar  
shots I should use.] Note whether vertical or horizontal, deserve  
full page/full bleed, a 1/9th of the page, or somewhere in between.
c. Go back to BookSmart. Spot a template that allows me to use  
my one good vertical and a couple of moderately good horizontals  
on the next page. Mutter about the fact that the template puts the  
vertical near the fold, the two horizontals on the outside, and I  
had wanted something the other way around. Mutter some more.  
Decide to live with it. Make a note to fire off a note later to  
Blub asking once again for increased flexibility in their  
templates, such as the ability to flip them horizontally or  
vertically. Recall their forum discussion on this issue where they  
basically said: live with it. Move note about firing off a note  
to Blurb into the Don Quixote file.
d. Note that the Vertical is 1113x1630 pixels and the  
Horizontals are 1113x680. [You do this by mousing over the page  
template, a popup window appears for three seconds with the ideal  
size information.]
e. Go back to Lightroom. Crop, sharpen etc. as required.  
Export to file with a resize to 1113x1630 or 1113x680.
f. Go back to BookSmart. Import the pictures from file. [If  
using Smugmug, I expect this step will take longer than reading  
from your local disk.]
g. Drag-and-drop the photos into the template. Note that one  
dimension or another will be cropped (since my original aspect  
ratio does not equal 1113:1630). Zoom and or slide the image so  
that the 1113x1630 window frames an appropriate part of the image.
h. Note that the aspect ratio of the 1113x1630 template just  
doesn't allow me to crop/compose the image the way I would like.
i. Find another template for the vertical shot. How about  
1488x2475? Just use it on its own and save the horizontals for  
another page?
j. Go back to Lightroom, re-export with new resizing  
parameters

k. Repeat 1-3 times for each of the other pages.
It really is not as bad as it sounds, flipping back and forth  
between Lightroom and Booksmart. But if the images were on  
Smugmug, do you need to pull them back down to our system to work  
on them? Then export back to Smugmug after you've resized? Then  
import from Smugmug into Booksmart? Unless you have a very good  
strong fast connection, I can see lots of coffee break time.
On the other hand, what I am describing is a book where the pages  
vary quite a bit, partially on the theory that better shots  
deserve more space (but the less good shots may still be required  
to tell the story), partially on the theory that some variety in  
formatting from page to page makes it less like an old-time photo  
album with four or six same-size photos on each page, over and  
over... If you have one consistent size photo, then much of the  
processing/resizing can be done in batch.

stan
On Oct 1, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
I did one (my Venice shots), helped my wife put one together (her  
step-mother's 70th Barnard College reunion), and have just  
finished editing a third (120 pages total, 375 images plus a  
bunch of text to document our church's trip to Costa Rica 

RE: Exposure Curiosity

2008-10-02 Thread Anthony Farr
Great light as I see it.  The dark background, being foliage, often goes
dark in a BW conversion unless you raise the green channel luminance
(analogous to using a green filter with BW film).  OTOH, overly strong
green filtration produces skintones that resemble a bodybuilder's fake tan,
so you need to use some caution.

Regards, Anthony

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Christine Aguila
 Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2008 10:43 AM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Exposure Curiosity
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 While in a shady park downtown at around 6:35 p.m., I took these photos of
 my husband, Darrel.  It was really shady in the park, so as you can see I
 bumped up the ISO and opened up the aperture.  When I looked at these in
 Lightroom, I had to check to see if I had used the flash, but I didn't
 remember doing so, and the metadata showed I didn't.  Doesn't it kinda
look
 like I did?  Or have my eyes just gone wonky?
 
 Anyway, fun to get a true white of my husband's beard.  He started to turn
 gray in high school, but now his hair  beard are white.
 
 
 Darrel 1:  K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/13 sec @f2.8
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935227
 
 
 Darrel 2: K10D, DA* 50-135mm 50mm, ISO 800, 1/30 sec @ f2.8
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7935234
 
 Explanations welcome :-)
 Cheers, Christine
 
 


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