PESO 2009 - 170 - GDG

2009-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

A Little Hiatus ...

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-little-hiatus

Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking.

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RE: PESO - Red Wednesday (1) (2)

2009-09-23 Thread Bob W
 
 Sydney awoke to a surreal red glow this morning.  It was the 
 dawn light filtering through the airborne topsoil of a 
 thousand western New South Wales farms.
 
 Red Wednesday (1)
 
 direct link:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3946608630_d18056ec97_o.jpg
 
 flickr photo page:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946608630/
 
 
 
 Red Wednesday (2)
 
 direct link:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3946610470_a03099c22c_o.jpg
 
 flickr photo page:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946610470/
 

The BBC has a piece about it, including a video:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8270104.stm

B


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Re: OT: Virus alert

2009-09-23 Thread David Mann
Reminds me of these.  We bought a bunch of them to give away as xmas  
presents one year (I got the common cold virus).


http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/6708/

Dave

On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:45 AM, Bob W wrote:


Some very interesting pictures here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8268505.stm

Bob


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RE: PESO - Red Wednesday (1) (2)

2009-09-23 Thread John Coyle
And then they sent it all to us in Brisbane (1400km north of Sydney)!

Looking across the river to the city, only 500 metres away:
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@powerup.com.au/Dusty1.jpg

and from the roof over our neighbourhood:
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@powerup.com.au/Dusty2.jpg

Both images *ist-D, Pentax DA 16-45 at 16mm.


John in Brisbane


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Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2009 12:21 PM
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Subject: PESO - Red Wednesday (1)  (2)

Sydney awoke to a surreal red glow this morning.  It was the dawn
light filtering through the airborne topsoil of a thousand western New
South Wales farms.

Red Wednesday (1)

direct link:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3946608630_d18056ec97_o.jpg

flickr photo page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946608630/



Red Wednesday (2)

direct link:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3946610470_a03099c22c_o.jpg

flickr photo page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946610470/


regards, Anthony

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Re: PESO 2009 - 170 - GDG

2009-09-23 Thread eckinator
First of all I like the image and it got me thinking what would I do
which is great =)
Here's what I came up with that I would do differently, YMMV

For this image as shown:
I find the colors a bit too washed out. A little more contrast and a
little more red/brown would have my eye wander less.

Also, if you can go back there (too bad I am nowhere near wherever it
is), I would love to see the shot with a little more focal lenght and
a step back or two for less background relative to the globe.
Specifically, I would get rid of the door in favor of symmetric
portions of the pillars and vertically I would omit either the top
portion of the wall or the curbstone line, preferably the former.
There is too much drawing my eye away from the globe making it kind of
not the center of the image that I see. With a calmer geometry colors
and contrast would be fine.

Hoping this can be seen as constructive
Cheers
Ecke

2009/9/23 Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com:
 A Little Hiatus ...

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-little-hiatus

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RE: PESO - Red Wednesday (1) (2)

2009-09-23 Thread John Coyle
Resend with the correct descriptions!
And then they sent it all to us in Brisbane (1400km north of Sydney)!

Looking across the river to the city, only 500 metres away:
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@powerup.com.au/Dusty2.jpg 

and from the roof over our neighbourhood:
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@powerup.com.au/Dusty1.jpg

Both images *ist-D, Pentax DA 16-45 at 16mm.


John in Brisbane

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Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2009 12:21 PM
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Subject: PESO - Red Wednesday (1)  (2)

Sydney awoke to a surreal red glow this morning.  It was the dawn
light filtering through the airborne topsoil of a thousand western New
South Wales farms.

Red Wednesday (1)

direct link:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3946608630_d18056ec97_o.jpg

flickr photo page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946608630/



Red Wednesday (2)

direct link:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3946610470_a03099c22c_o.jpg

flickr photo page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946610470/


regards, Anthony

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Re: Detroit PDML: (Was: Back in beantown!)

2009-09-23 Thread paul stenquist
The exhibit doesn't open until well into October, so that should be  
good.


On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

I'm in, but I won't be available till the end of the first week in  
Oct - the 9th


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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Subject: Detroit PDML: (Was: Back in beantown!)



Well, let's do it then. Maybe Ken and Mark can make it as well.
Paul
On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote:


OK with me.

Bill Sawyer

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Sounds like an opportunity for a Detroit PDML day.
Paul
On Sep 19, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Bill Sawyer wrote:


It's worth mentioning that this exhibit is moving to the Detroit
Institute
of Arts in October - the 18th I think.

http://www.icp.org/site/c.dnJGKJNsFqG/b.5079531/k.9571/Avedon_Fashion.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/arts/design/15aved.html?_r=1

Concurrently, the DIA has a collection of their own works depicting
the
first 100 years of photography 1840-1940. Some really iconic images
there. A
worthwhile double-header if you are in the neighborhood.

http://www.dia.org/


Bill Sawyer

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Nice work. You're an excellent ambassador for the PDML.
Paul
On Sep 17, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I just got back to Boston after my trip to NYC for the Pentax K-X
intro. It was a cold and wet ride, but not *extremely* cold or   
wet. I

think Triumph misnamed the Sprint because that bike's definitely a
marathon runner (though a very, very fast one)! Best motorcycle   
ever,

IMHO :-)

The intro was held at the International Center of Photography on  
6th
Ave at 43rd street and it's definitely worth a visit if you get  
the
chance. Their current exhibit is on the work of Richard Avedon,  
who

is
not one of my favorite photographers - but that's probably all the
more reason to have a look at his work, I thought to myself. I was
quite surprised at how much of it I liked. The thing is, it was  
all
his really *early* stuff that really seemed good to me. The  
exhibit

had the photographs grouped by time periods and the later the year
the
less I liked his work. He seemed to have figured out what sold, at
one
point, and then stopped experimenting and growing. In his later  
work
he seemed to be imitating his own Richard Avedon  
style (though  very
well!) I once read an article that suggested that Liza Minelli  
has,

in
effect, become a Liza Minelli impersonator; I think Richard Avedon
became a sort of photographic equivalent of that.

All the prints looked fabulous, by the way, but particularly the
earlier ones, to my eye. I doubt Avedon was a darkroom kind of  
guy  so

I wondered who did his printing. Whoever it was did a superb job.





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Re: PESO: Race Snake

2009-09-23 Thread paul stenquist

Thanks to all who had a look.
Paul


On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 03:42:40PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Working on the pics I shot at the Mopar Nationals last month, and I
thought some might find this car interesting. It's a 1998 Viper. The
front suspension, steering gear and chassis are basically stock, but
the rear of the body has been tubbed to allow for large tires, and
the rear end has been replaced with a magnesium carrier and solid
spool. A roll cage ties the rear suspension mounts to the engine
subframe. The engine is the 98 Viper original with stock crank, rods
and pistons. Non-stock pieces include two huge intercooled
turbochargers, highly modified fuel injection, and long duration,  
high

lift camshafts. I saw it run the quarter mile in 7.8 seconds at 187
mph -- on pump gas. Oh, and the guy drives it on the street now and
then. Fun stuff.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9799674size=lg


Nice shot. Looks like a fun car.

I always appreciated vipers, but didn't really like them until one
passed me at full song between turns 6  7 at Sears Point. There's
just something about 8 liters of V-10 WFO that could be branded
priapism in a can.


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PESO: Portal

2009-09-23 Thread paul stenquist

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9802694

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Re: PESO - Red Wednesday (1) (2)

2009-09-23 Thread paul stenquist

Interesting. I've never seen  that kind of light occur naturally.
Paul
On Sep 22, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:


Sydney awoke to a surreal red glow this morning.  It was the dawn
light filtering through the airborne topsoil of a thousand western New
South Wales farms.

Red Wednesday (1)

direct link:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3946608630_d18056ec97_o.jpg

flickr photo page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946608630/



Red Wednesday (2)

direct link:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3946610470_a03099c22c_o.jpg

flickr photo page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946610470/


regards, Anthony

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Re: PESO - Red Wednesday (1) (2)

2009-09-23 Thread Peter McIntosh
2009/9/23 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

 Interesting. I've never seen  that kind of light occur naturally.
 Paul

I've seen it as either dust storms or bush fires.  I actually thought
it was a a bush fire when I woke at 5:00 this morning and saw the glow
behind the curtains, but couldn't smell it.  I could taste the dust,
though - and still can 15 hours later...

Regards,
Peter - lurking in western Sydney

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RE: PESO - Red Wednesday (1) (2)

2009-09-23 Thread Jack Davis
I somehow missed this original post. Not uncommon, sorry to say.
These shots remind me of those times, even recently, that forest fires have 
resulted in an almost identical effect. The difference, however, being the eye 
and nose stinging smell of smoke.
If you haven't guessed, I live in California.

Jack

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, John Coyle jco...@powerup.com.au wrote:

 From: John Coyle jco...@powerup.com.au
 Subject: RE: PESO - Red Wednesday (1)  (2)
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 1:26 AM
 Resend with the correct
 descriptions!
 And then they sent it all to us in Brisbane (1400km north
 of Sydney)!
 
 Looking across the river to the city, only 500 metres
 away:
 http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@powerup.com.au/Dusty2.jpg
 
 
 and from the roof over our neighbourhood:
 http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@powerup.com.au/Dusty1.jpg
 
 Both images *ist-D, Pentax DA 16-45 at 16mm.
 
 
 John in Brisbane
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
 [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net]
 On Behalf Of
 Anthony Farr
 Sent: Wednesday, 23 September 2009 12:21 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: PESO - Red Wednesday (1)  (2)
 
 Sydney awoke to a surreal red glow this morning.  It
 was the dawn
 light filtering through the airborne topsoil of a thousand
 western New
 South Wales farms.
 
 Red Wednesday (1)
 
 direct link:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3946608630_d18056ec97_o.jpg
 
 flickr photo page:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946608630/
 
 
 
 Red Wednesday (2)
 
 direct link:
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3946610470_a03099c22c_o.jpg
 
 flickr photo page:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/27011...@n06/3946610470/
 
 
 regards, Anthony
 
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Re: PESO: Portal

2009-09-23 Thread Jack Davis
The message she's getting can't be good news. :(
Nice quick catch study.

Jack

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 Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 5:03 AM
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9802694
 
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OT: 6 Tips for Perfect Composition in Portrait Photography

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Or, at least, one person's concept of perfect portrait photography:

http://www.bspcn.com/2009/09/21/6-tips-for-perfect-composition-in-portrait-photography/

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OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zwsig=AHBy-hZc13i2KMEt_0FWHdayvu_rgSP7Ggpli=1

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread eckinator
Link is dead for me
Cheers
Ecke

2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
cutting it up.  Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Link is dead for me
 Cheers
 Ecke

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Both the old link and the new 'tiny' link don't lead me anywhere.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
 cutting it up.  Try this:

 http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Link is dead for me
 Cheers
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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote:

Dan,
Both the old link and the new 'tiny' link don't lead me anywhere.

Same here.


 http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2
 https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zwsig=AHBy-hZc13i2KMEt_0FWHdayvu_rgSP7Ggpli=1

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread eckinator
It seems to link into your google account which is why it doesn't work
for me - the error message says sorry your google account isn't
available
Cheers Ecke

2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
 cutting it up.  Try this:

 http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Link is dead for me
 Cheers
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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Christian

It works it just wants me to sign into Google.  which ain't gonna happen

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Bob Sullivan wrote:

Dan,
Both the old link and the new 'tiny' link don't lead me anywhere.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
cutting it up.  Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:

Link is dead for me
Cheers
Ecke

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https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zwsig=AHBy-hZc13i2KMEt_0FWHdayvu_rgSP7Ggpli=1



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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:20:44 -0400
Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
 cutting it up.  Try this:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

redirects to my gmail is it an attachment to an email in yours?


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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christian,
It doesn't work for me and I'm reading it from Google - all signed in!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Dan,
 Both the old link and the new 'tiny' link don't lead me anywhere.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
 cutting it up.  Try this:

 http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:

 Link is dead for me
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:


 https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zwsig=AHBy-hZc13i2KMEt_0FWHdayvu_rgSP7Ggpli=1


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Re: PESO 2009 - 170 - GDG

2009-09-23 Thread ann sanfedele

Looks like you were visiting a TARGET , Godders :-)

ann

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A Little Hiatus ...

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-little-hiatus

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Re: OT: 6 Tips for Perfect Composition in Portrait Photography

2009-09-23 Thread ann sanfedele



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Or, at least, one person's concept of perfect portrait photography:

http://www.bspcn.com/2009/09/21/6-tips-for-perfect-composition-in-portrait-photography/

 


Or not...

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread AlunFoto
Dan,
Could it be a link to a Google Doc that is shared instead of published?

Jostein

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Re: OT: 6 Tips for Perfect Composition in Portrait Photography

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Robinson

On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:06, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Or, at least, one person's concept of perfect portrait photography:

http://www.bspcn.com/2009/09/21/6-tips-for-perfect-composition-in-portrait-photography/



Love the aspect-ratio distortion on that last image Hmm.

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Robinson

On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:11, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zwsig=AHBy-hZc13i2KMEt_0FWHdayvu_rgSP7Ggpli=1



Taking that URL apart, it looks like a Powerpoint document... on  
Google... which is an attachment to some google mail.


I don't think that's going to work for us.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 170 - GDG

2009-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/a-little-hiatus

Thanks for your comments!

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:21 AM, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Looks like you were visiting a TARGET , Godders :-)

:-) The Chevy's Mexican restaurant is right nearby there ... ;-)
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PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread AlunFoto
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html

From a canoe trip last week-end.

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Perhaps.

It is a power point presentation, which is easier for me to view as a
google doc.  I tried to send the original power point file to the list
as an attachment, but, because of its size, it go held up and sent to
the moderator.

Dan

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:27 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Could it be a link to a Google Doc that is shared instead of published?

 Jostein

 2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Christian

AlunFoto wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html


From a canoe trip last week-end.


Jostein



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Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

or

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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread paul stenquist

They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.

On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 



or

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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 06:38:12PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html
 
 From a canoe trip last week-end.

It's a great pity there was no large charismatic bird (eagle, osprey,
large heron...) so co-operative as to perch in that tree for you. :)

A great sense of landscape comes through all the same.

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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.

What a downer, Paul. They'd be fun to make photographs with, warts and all.
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RE: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Yeah, but they look really stupid and that has to count for something.

On a somewhat more serious note, I was bummed to discover that the k mount to 
four thirds adaptor is around $270.  It does come with an aperture ring, 
however.



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They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.

On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 ... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
  
 

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/l5ol6z

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Re: `I wonder if all my PESOS look washed out to you guiys...

2009-09-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 PJ,
 My recollection is they were a bit flat.

Well, he does have a flat screen monitor.:-0

Dave
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 my monitor isn't professionally calibrated, I took the Adobe Gamma, (yes I
 know doing it by eye isn't the optimal a solution ), as a starting point
 then adjusted it until it matched the output from my printer. So I get
 acceptable more or less repeatable prints.  However I just looked at my
 recent PESOs on a (probably uncalibrated) LCD on a public computer and boy
 there's a huge difference between what they look like on my HITACHI
 SuperScan (CRT)..  I take back all the bad thoughts I had about what seemed
 to be needlessly nit picking comments.
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RE: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Make that micro four thirds.

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Yeah, but they look really stupid and that has to count for something.

On a somewhat more serious note, I was bummed to discover that the k mount to 
four thirds adaptor is around $270.  It does come with an aperture ring, 
however.



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They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.

On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 ... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
  
 

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/l5ol6z

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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread paul stenquist
A downer perhaps, but worth mentioning before someone forks over  
$133.50 for the adapter.


On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.


What a downer, Paul. They'd be fun to make photographs with, warts  
and all.

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling

There's only three rules in the PDML.

Rule #1 no attachments get sent to the list.

Rule #2 NO attachments get sent to the list!

Rule #3 There are no attachments on the list.

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Perhaps.

It is a power point presentation, which is easier for me to view as a
google doc.  I tried to send the original power point file to the list
as an attachment, but, because of its size, it go held up and sent to
the moderator.

Dan

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:27 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
  

Dan,
Could it be a link to a Google Doc that is shared instead of published?

Jostein

2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:


https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%26zwsig=AHBy-hZc13i2KMEt_0FWHdayvu_rgSP7Ggpli=1

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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling

Now if they only made a micro 4/3 body in scale with the 110 lenses...
(It does look silly with those tiny lenses and BIG adapter).

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

or

http://tinyurl.com/l5ol6z

  



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RE: Medium Format Film Processing

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: J.C. O'Connell

well, the old, original Kodak company has stopped making it,
and I never thought that day would come so soon.
I had used Kodak BW paper my whole life.


I believe Kodak discontinued manufacturing BW paper back in 2006, 
certainly by 2007.


They had extensive stocks in the warehouse, same as with the recent 
announcement discontinuing Kodachrome. There's supposed to be enough 
Kodachrome left in the warehouses to last another year or so.


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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Doesn't look like there's any kind of aperture control, since the 110 
aperture was part of the shutter mechanism.


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

or

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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread P. J. Alling
So if you use a K, M, or A lens you'll have two aperture rings, now 
that's special!


Desjardins, Steve wrote:

Yeah, but they look really stupid and that has to count for something.

On a somewhat more serious note, I was bummed to discover that the k mount to 
four thirds adaptor is around $270.  It does come with an aperture ring, 
however.



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They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.

On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

  

... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14 

or


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Re: 645D Again

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: John Celio
But the big question in my mind is how long do we have to wait for the 
 67D?


Sadly, I think the answer is forever.

I shoulda kept my 67.  :( 


It was really a tongue in cheek question, but that's the same thing 
Pentax was saying about the 645D for a while ... so, who knows?


If they do, and I can afford it, and can use it, I might buy it.

What was the latest unofficial word from Pentax? Something about staying 
competitive responding to the demands of changing markets?


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RE: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Bob W
What's with all the Google crap?

Bob 

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 Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola
 Sent: 23 September 2009 14:11
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees
 
 https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123
 e6e5f167b6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-powerpointurl=https%3A%
 2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D737688d928%26vi
 ew%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3Dattd%2
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RE: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Bob W
 
 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 06:38:12PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
  http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html
  
  From a canoe trip last week-end.
 
 It's a great pity there was no large charismatic bird (eagle, 
 osprey, large heron...) 

...cormorant

 so co-operative as to perch in that 
 tree for you. :)
 
 A great sense of landscape comes through all the same.
 

Yes, great shot


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Re: 645D Again

2009-09-23 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 02:07:04PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit:
 From: John Celio
 But the big question in my mind is how long do we have to wait for
 the 67D?

 Sadly, I think the answer is forever.

 I shoulda kept my 67.  :( 

 It was really a tongue in cheek question, but that's the same thing
 Pentax was saying about the 645D for a while ... so, who knows?

 If they do, and I can afford it, and can use it, I might buy it.

Moore's Law doesn't apply if you have to keep the chip some fixed
physical size.  So, baring someone figuring out a better way to make
camera sensors (which is certainly possible) the prices for sensors in
that size class are going to stay up in gasp, wheeze territory.

RED lists their 56mmx42mm 645 sensor at 43 kUSD, for example.

The odds of it being worthwhile to produce a 645 *and* a 67 digital
camera from Pentax's POV don't strike me as all that high.

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And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread Joseph McAllister

http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5


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http://gallery.me.com/jomac
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RE: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
This must be a candidate for the record for the longest URL in the history
of URLs!

Even with the tiny version, I just get a Google Docs login page and the
opportunity to run a cheesy video about a boy trying to get off with a girl
in his class...

Chris

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 Sent: 23 September 2009 14:21
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 Subject: Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees
 
 I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
 cutting it up.  Try this:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2
 
 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
  Link is dead for me
  Cheers
  Ecke
 
  2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 
 https://docs.google.com/gview?a=vpid=gmailattid=0.1thid=123e6e5f167b
 6bb1mt=application%2Fvnd.ms-
 powerpointurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3D2%26ik%3D
 737688d928%26view%3Datt%26th%3D123e6e5f167b6bb1%26attid%3D0.1%26disp%3D
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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Jack Davis
Very nice composition, Jostein! Juiced color looks like it was shot either 
early or late in the day.

Jack

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 Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 9:57 AM
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  http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html
  
 From a canoe trip last week-end.
  
  Jostein
  
 
 Very Pretty, Jostein.
 
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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread eckinator
Gorgeous scene, Jostein
Makes me wanna put Mr Linder back on the roof rack ]=)

2009/9/23 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html

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Re: `I wonder if all my PESOS look washed out to you guiys...

2009-09-23 Thread Jack Davis
I must not be receiving about half of the original posts.  A plot of some sort? 
;))
Yes, Peter they do, generally, lack depth and presence. You may want it so, but 
the blacts look sort of thin with a suggestion of gray.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: `I wonder if all my PESOS look washed out to you guiys...
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 10:52 AM
 On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Bob
 Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  PJ,
  My recollection is they were a bit flat.
 
 Well, he does have a flat screen monitor.:-0
 
 Dave
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:54 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've sometimes wondered at some of the comments I
 get on my PESOs.  I know
  my monitor isn't professionally calibrated, I took
 the Adobe Gamma, (yes I
  know doing it by eye isn't the optimal a solution
 ), as a starting point
  then adjusted it until it matched the output from
 my printer. So I get
  acceptable more or less repeatable prints.
  However I just looked at my
  recent PESOs on a (probably uncalibrated) LCD on a
 public computer and boy
  there's a huge difference between what they look
 like on my HITACHI
  SuperScan (CRT)..  I take back all the bad
 thoughts I had about what seemed
  to be needlessly nit picking comments.
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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Doug Brewer

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Perhaps.

It is a power point presentation, which is easier for me to view as a
google doc.  I tried to send the original power point file to the list
as an attachment, but, because of its size, it go held up and sent to
the moderator.


...who, as is his habit, launched it into bit heaven.

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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Doug Brewer

AlunFoto wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html


From a canoe trip last week-end.


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Re: OT: Virus alert

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann
Reminds me of these.  We bought a bunch of them to give away as xmas  
presents one year (I got the common cold virus).


http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/6708/

Dave


I have never seen a site with more useless junk. Bookmarked it 
immediately, of course.


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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread eckinator
Deliverance. Awesome movie =]

2009/9/23 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com:
 AlunFoto wrote:

 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html

 From a canoe trip last week-end.

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RE: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Desjardins, Steve
You can never have too many aperture rings.

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So if you use a K, M, or A lens you'll have two aperture rings, now 
that's special!

Desjardins, Steve wrote:
 Yeah, but they look really stupid and that has to count for something.

 On a somewhat more serious note, I was bummed to discover that the k mount to 
 four thirds adaptor is around $270.  It does come with an aperture ring, 
 however.



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 Subject: Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

 They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.

 On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

   
 ... use them on a micro-FourThirds body now!

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PENTAX-110-TO-G1-GH1-OLYMPUS-E-P1-MICRO-43-M4-3-M43_W0QQitemZ320425177320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLens_Accessories?hash=item4a9ad430e8_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
  
 
 or

 http://tinyurl.com/l5ol6z

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Re: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Daniel J. Matyola

I just tried it and it works fine.  Perhaps your email client is
cutting it up.  Try this:

http://tinyurl.com/mmbcq2

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:13 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:

 Link is dead for me
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2009/9/23 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:

I ain't repeating that whole long link string

Both the long link and the tinyurl come up to Welcome to Google Docs 
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RE: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
As seen at Togfest this year:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Togfest09/Togfest2009/Otherstuff/slides/2009062
6IMGP0119.html


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Doug Brewer
 Sent: 23 September 2009 19:43
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO - Along the river
 
 AlunFoto wrote:
  http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html
 
 From a canoe trip last week-end.
 
  Jostein
 
 
 paddle faster. I hear banjos.
 
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Re: OT: 6 Tips for Perfect Composition in Portrait, Photography

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

Basic, generic Well DUH! tips.

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Re: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:19:43AM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit:
 http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5

And have stable sources of income, alas.

-- Graydon, who is stupidly tempted anyway.

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RE: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and, lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Joseph McAllister

http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5


Why doesn't any of this stuff ever come on the market when I actually 
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RE: OT: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread John Sessoms

From: Chris Mitchell

This must be a candidate for the record for the longest URL in the history
of URLs!

Even with the tiny version, I just get a Google Docs login page and the
opportunity to run a cheesy video about a boy trying to get off with a girl
in his class...


Ooh! I'll have to take another look. All I got was the Google Docs page; 
missed the cheesy video.


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GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

Hi gang, 
 
How have you been?
 
Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over Labor Day 
weekend, to Imogene Lake in the Idaho Sawtooths. It's about three miles on an 
unmaintained logging road (roughest road I've driven on with often 1+ foot high 
rocks to drive over negotiate around), then about a 6 mile hike to the lake 
with a few strenuous elevation gains (but all downhill coming back). A 50/60 lb 
pack adds to the fun.
 
http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=478638
 
 
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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller

Good subject, composition  light  thanks for the clouds!

If it were mine I'd crop out a little of the sky.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com


Subject: PESO - Along the river



http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html


From a canoe trip last week-end.


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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller

The question for me is why?

Are there not many other lenses available for this body?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net


Subject: Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?


A downer perhaps, but worth mentioning before someone forks over  
$133.50 for the adapter.


On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:37 AM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

They have no aperture control, and they're not particularly good.


What a downer, Paul. They'd be fun to make photographs with, warts  
and all.

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Re: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller

paddle faster. I hear banjos.


Mark!


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Along the river



AlunFoto wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html


From a canoe trip last week-end.


Jostein



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RE: PESO - Along the river

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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It's a beautiful serene image evoking a feeling of quiet isolation.=20


Tom Cakalic



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 Subject: PESO - Along the river


 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/09/along-river.html

From a canoe trip last week-end.

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Re: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller

As opposed to 

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com


Subject: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and lenses...



http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5


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Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing

2009-09-23 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Hat jemand von Euch die Videos der Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing von
Youtube irgendwann mal auf die Platte gezogen.

Ich leider nicht und auf Youtube sind sie verschwunden. :-(

Falls mir jemand damit aushelfen könnte  wäre ich sehr dankbar.

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Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Paul Sorenson
Wow!!  What beautiful country.  I'm afraid if I ever got to a place like 
that I'd be hard pressed to return to civilization.


-p

Tom Cakalic wrote:
Hi gang, 
 
How have you been?
 
Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over Labor Day weekend, to Imogene Lake in the Idaho Sawtooths. It's about three miles on an unmaintained logging road (roughest road I've driven on with often 1+ foot high rocks to drive over negotiate around), then about a 6 mile hike to the lake with a few strenuous elevation gains (but all downhill coming back). A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.
 
http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=478638
 
 
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Re: Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller

Vas ist das?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de


Subject: Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing


Hat jemand von Euch die Videos der Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing von
Youtube irgendwann mal auf die Platte gezogen.

Ich leider nicht und auf Youtube sind sie verschwunden. :-(

Falls mir jemand damit aushelfen könnte  wäre ich sehr dankbar.

Ralf

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RE: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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Pizza and ice-cold beer at the closest place after a 6 mile hike provides a=
 little incentive=2C along with a shower upon arriving home.
=20
Thanks Paul.=20


Tom



 Date: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 15:15:33 -0500
 From: allarou...@earthlink.net
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

 Wow!! What beautiful country. I'm afraid if I ever got to a place like
 that I'd be hard pressed to return to civilization.

 -p

 Tom Cakalic wrote:
 Hi gang=2C

 How have you been?

 Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over Labor Day =
weekend=2C to Imogene Lake in the Idaho Sawtooths. It's about three miles o=
n an unmaintained logging road (roughest road I've driven on with often 1+ =
foot high rocks to drive over negotiate around)=2C then about a 6 mile hike=
 to the lake with a few strenuous elevation gains (but all downhill coming =
back). A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=3D478638


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Re: Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing

2009-09-23 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Silly old me fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hat jemand von Euch die Videos der Straßenbahn Liège - Seraing von
 Youtube irgendwann mal auf die Platte gezogen.
 
 Ich leider nicht und auf Youtube sind sie verschwunden. :-(
 
 Falls mir jemand damit aushelfen könnte  wäre ich sehr dankbar.


Sorry folks. Wrong group.

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OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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Any body have any idea why this junk is appearing in my replies?  Thanks.

Tom Cakalic



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 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: GESO - Imogene Lake
 Date: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 14:18:45 -0600


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 Tom


 
 Date: Wed=3D2C 23 Sep 2009 15:15:33 -0500
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 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

 Wow!! What beautiful country. I'm afraid if I ever got to a place like
 that I'd be hard pressed to return to civilization.

 -p

 Tom Cakalic wrote:
 Hi gang=3D2C

 How have you been?

 Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over Labor Day=
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 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=3D3D478638


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Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Paul Sorenson

BTW - welcome back.  It's been a while since I've seen a post from you.

-p

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=20
Thanks Paul.=20


Tom



  

Date: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 15:15:33 -0500
From: allarou...@earthlink.net
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

Wow!! What beautiful country. I'm afraid if I ever got to a place like
that I'd be hard pressed to return to civilization.

-p

Tom Cakalic wrote:


Hi gang=2C

How have you been?

Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over Labor Day =
  

weekend=2C to Imogene Lake in the Idaho Sawtooths. It's about three miles o=
n an unmaintained logging road (roughest road I've driven on with often 1+ =
foot high rocks to drive over negotiate around)=2C then about a 6 mile hike=
 to the lake with a few strenuous elevation gains (but all downhill coming =
back). A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.
  

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=3D478638


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Re: OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 02:20:43PM -0600, Tom Cakalic scripsit:
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 Any body have any idea why this junk is appearing in my replies?  Thanks.

The MUA you use is incorporating the MIME header for the portion of the
message to which you are replying.

No idea why it's doing that, nor which MUA you use.  (MUA = Mail User
Agent, the thing you actually type a message in, as opposed to MTA, Mail
Transport Agent, the stuff that manages getting the email from point A
to point B.)

It's probably a good idea to set your MUA to a complete insistence on
plain text, and to, if at all possible, reply to entire messages and not
to the individual attachments.  (There are MUAs that treat all emails as
being composed of attachments.)

-- Graydon

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Re: OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom Cakalic wrote:

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Any body have any idea why this junk is appearing in my replies?  Thanks.

Your email client is sending HTML mail (which is something the list
software does *not* like).

Good to have you back, though!


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RE: OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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I'm going to close down get back in.  I'm using hotmail so of course I'm ju=
st typing in the text window provided.  Plain mail is set... maybe it's the=
 fact that my signature is actually not set to be in plain text (even thoug=
h it displays that way). Thanks guys.=20



Tom Cakalic













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RE: OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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Any junk this time?

Tom Cakalic




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Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Jack Davis
It's a long story, Tom. Nice to hear from you.
Beautiful lake..certainly as captured by you. BTW, I envy your ability to do 
such a hike. 
I'm sure you would have included shots of any fish caught, so I don't need to 
ask about your luck.

Hope all is well.

Jack

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Tom Cakalic caka...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom Cakalic caka...@hotmail.com
 Subject: GESO - Imogene Lake
 To: pdml pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:57 PM
 
 Hi gang, 
  
 How have you been?
  
 Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip
 over Labor Day weekend, to Imogene Lake in the Idaho
 Sawtooths. It's about three miles on an unmaintained logging
 road (roughest road I've driven on with often 1+ foot high
 rocks to drive over negotiate around), then about a 6 mile
 hike to the lake with a few strenuous elevation gains (but
 all downhill coming back). A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.
  
 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=478638
  
  
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Re: Images of some interesting and unusual trees

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I tried to attach a power point slide show that had some very
interesting images (not mine).  That didn't work because the file was
too large under the rules of this list.  So, I made it into a google
doc and tried to provide a link, but that didn't work either.

Sorry for the mess I caused.

Dan

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Re: 645D Again

2009-09-23 Thread Miserere
2009/9/22 Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com:

 I understood some irony in Miserere's words...sometimes it seems that they 
 don't bother to convert the currency so a camera that in the US costs 1000$ 
 in Europe goes for 1000EUR, whatever the rate is.

 Jaume

Quite right, Jaume, there was plenty of irony in my post  :-)

My quick thoughts on the 645D: They should have scrapped direct
backwards compatibility with legacy glass (but provide a
fully-functional adapter) and created a DSLR-sized and shaped camera
with the (rumoured) 36x48mm sensor. The Leica S2 is a bit smaller than
a Nikon D700--if Leica can do it, so can Pentax. Create something new,
exciting, and affordable (within the segment), that's what I wish
Pentax would have done. Instead, they're just sticking a cropped
sensor in a 645 body, keeping the same registration distance, and
repeating the whole APS-C vs full-frame silliness.

Unless all those mock-ups they've been showing lately are an elaborate
ploy to delude us.

My 2 cents (or 1.6p).


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RE: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Bob W
  
 Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over 
 Labor Day weekend, to Imogene Lake in the Idaho Sawtooths. 

Beautiful pictures - looks like a fantastic place.

 [...]
 A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.
  

You must be insane. Welcome back.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=478638
  


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Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful images!  Thanks for sharing them.

Dan

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 Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip over
 Labor Day weekend, to Imogene Lake in the Idaho Sawtooths.

 Beautiful pictures - looks like a fantastic place.

 [...]
 A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.


 You must be insane. Welcome back.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=478638



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Re: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tom,
Like Jack said, beautiful pictures and I envy the trip.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It's a long story, Tom. Nice to hear from you.
 Beautiful lake..certainly as captured by you. BTW, I envy your ability to do 
 such a hike.
 I'm sure you would have included shots of any fish caught, so I don't need to 
 ask about your luck.

 Hope all is well.

 Jack

 --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Tom Cakalic caka...@hotmail.com wrote:

 From: Tom Cakalic caka...@hotmail.com
 Subject: GESO - Imogene Lake
 To: pdml pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 12:57 PM

 Hi gang,

 How have you been?

 Just a small selection of images from a backpacking trip
 over Labor Day weekend, to Imogene Lake in the Idaho
 Sawtooths. It's about three miles on an unmaintained logging
 road (roughest road I've driven on with often 1+ foot high
 rocks to drive over negotiate around), then about a 6 mile
 hike to the lake with a few strenuous elevation gains (but
 all downhill coming back). A 50/60 lb pack adds to the fun.

 http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=478638


 Tom



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Re: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Sep 23, 2009, at 13:11 , Ken Waller wrote:


As opposed to 



I had sent a msg 3  minutes before this on titled Pentaxians who only  
shoot Canon, but hang out anyway...


Apparently, it never arrived at PDML headquarters. I just resent it,  
let's see what happens.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com 



Subject: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and  
lenses...




http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5





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Re: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
I give up. The msg titled Pentaxians who only shoot Canon, but hang  
out anyway... has gone into the universal bit bucket somewhere, or  
the list owner is having fun deleting some and passing others, just to  
mess with our heads. Harrumph.


It read:

A treat in store for you in BH's Used/Refurbished dept.

http://tinyurl.com/chj2ml

for an extra $600 you can have it camo'd.





On Sep 23, 2009, at 14:08 , Joseph McAllister wrote:



On Sep 23, 2009, at 13:11 , Ken Waller wrote:


As opposed to 



I had sent a msg 3  minutes before this on titled Pentaxians who  
only shoot Canon, but hang out anyway...


Apparently, it never arrived at PDML headquarters. I just resent it,  
let's see what happens.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com 



Subject: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and  
lenses...




http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5




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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 ... they look silly ...

I spend my time looking through a camera, not at it.

 ... Pentax K to micro-FourThirds adapter costs $270 ...

That's a Novoflex adapter, probably the most expensive vendor out
there, and totally unneeded unless you are adapting DA series lenses
to micro-FourThirds. A 'dumb' FourThirds to micro-FourThirds adapter
(no electronics) is $80, add a Pentax K or M42  to FourThirds adapter
for another $12 to $30. That's what I use for my M50/1.4 and SMC-T
135/3.5 lenses.

 The question for me is why?
 Are there not many other lenses available for this body?

There are currently eight micro-FourThirds lenses (and three known to
be on the roadmap for late 2009/early 2010) as follows:

Micro-FourThirds Lens List At The Present Time (Sept 09)

Panasonic, current:
G Vario 7-14
G Vario 14-45 OIS
G Vario 14-140 (150?) HD OIS
G 20
G Vario 45-200 OIS
Macro-Elmarit-GD 45 OIS

Panasonic, upcoming on the roadmap:
G 8 Fish Eye
G 14
G Vario 100-300 OIS

Olympus, current:
M.Zuiko 17
M.Zuiko 14-42

In addition to that, using the FourThirds to micro-FourThirds
adapters, you can use all of the Panasonic/Leica, Olympus and Sigma
lenses made for FourThirds SLRs (about 30 more lenses in total, from
consumer to super-high-end pro).

But people have a lenses already that they want to put to use. Many
people seem to have Pentax 110 kits with a defunct body and would like
to use their lens collection on something that can support digital
capture. It's fun, that's all. $135 for an adapter? that's not bad to
get some use out of lenses that you have lying in a drawer and would
otherwise just go into the trash bin.

I don't understand the attitudes on this PENTAX forum. Here is a way
that someone can have a little fun with some neat old Pentax stuff,
and all I read is oh those lenses suck anyway and why do it?

Oh well, so much for Pentax joy and fun. I guess you'd all rather be
arguing about noise and build quality problems in your K7 and lenses,
celebrating the Pink version of a KX-M, or otherwise pissin'  moanin'
about aperture simulators.

-- 
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Re: PUG reminder

2009-09-23 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 18, 2009, at 09:23 , Scott Loveless wrote:


Give
them your camera and tell them to take pictures.  Upload a good one.
I did take the liberty of making up a rule.  If you have LTD or *
glass, you have to let them use it.  No exceptions.


Gonna be a sparse PUG from this household. Likely to never see the  
lens OR camera again. Damn kids.


I put a box full of CDs, VHS tapes, and other 'stuff' out in the alley  
a month ago, with the intention of writing FREE on it. Before I  
could, one of the neighborhood kids was spotted running down the alley  
with the whole box. Damn kids.


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Lots of gear, not much time

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On the Beach

2009-09-23 Thread Larry Colen
I did a shoot with a friend yesterday at Bonny Doon Beach (north of
Santa Cruz). 

Fully dressed:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/3948952404_864089e112_o.jpg
From the set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622441665520/

With just a scarf:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2641/3948182859_581d5e16a9_o.jpg
From the set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622317092139/

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The first step is learning to take great photos, 
the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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RE: OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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If there's no junk on this it's an IE7 issue of some kind that includes it.=
=A0 This msg is sent using Firefox/Hotmail.

I never had this problem until today when I rejoined the PDML and switched =
from HTML to plain text in e-mails.=A0 Not a PDML problem=2C I'll just use =
Firefox.=20










 From: caka...@hotmail.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Junk on Replies
 Date: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 14:35:16 -0600


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 Any junk this time?

 Tom Cakalic



 
 From: caka...@hotmail.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Junk on Replies
 Date: Wed=3D2C 23 Sep 2009 14:34:01 -0600


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 From: m...@robertstech.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Junk on Replies
 Date: Wed=3D3D2C 23 Sep 2009 16:29:36 -0400

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Any body have any idea why this junk is appearing in my replies? Thanks=
.

 Your email client is sending HTML mail (which is something the list
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RE: OT - Junk on Replies

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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So much for that... I just sent myself 3 or 4 replies and IE7 would consist=
ently send the undesired stuff and Firefox would not=2C but now...




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 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Junk on Replies
 Date: Wed=2C 23 Sep 2009 16:02:21 -0600


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t use =3D
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 Any junk this time?

 Tom Cakalic



 
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 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Junk on Replies
 Date: Wed=3D3D2C 23 Sep 2009 14:34:01 -0600


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 Subject: Re: OT - Junk on Replies
 Date: Wed=3D3D3D2C 23 Sep 2009 16:29:36 -0400

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RE: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

Hi guys thanks for the comments and the welcome backs.

Still haven't got the stupid Reply issue fixed with the Mime info in the e-mail 
body.

Tom



  
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RE: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Bob W
Looks ok from here 

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 Behalf Of Tom Cakalic
 Sent: 23 September 2009 23:58
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 Subject: RE: GESO - Imogene Lake
 
 
 Hi guys thanks for the comments and the welcome backs.
 
 Still haven't got the stupid Reply issue fixed with the Mime 
 info in the e-mail body.
 
 Tom
 
 
 
 
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RE: GESO - Imogene Lake

2009-09-23 Thread Tom Cakalic

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Thanks Bob. It's likely because that last message was not really a reply. :=
)

I bet this one has the gobbledy-gook.

Tom



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 Date: Thu=2C 24 Sep 2009 00:01:15 +0100

 Looks ok from here

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 Hi guys thanks for the comments and the welcome backs.

 Still haven't got the stupid Reply issue fixed with the Mime
 info in the e-mail body.

 Tom




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Re: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentaxcameras and lenses...

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller
As a side note, I did a photo workshop with G. Lepp in Alaska and he 
mentioned being able to borrow this lens from Canon for his time in Alaska. 
At the time he said it was worth $80k USD.


He refused the offer saying it was just not worth his concern to be worried 
about this lens during his trip. He drove up from Calif. btw.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com
Subject: Re: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentaxcameras and 
lenses...



I give up. The msg titled Pentaxians who only shoot Canon, but hang
out anyway... has gone into the universal bit bucket somewhere, or
the list owner is having fun deleting some and passing others, just to
mess with our heads. Harrumph.

It read:

A treat in store for you in BH's Used/Refurbished dept.

http://tinyurl.com/chj2ml

for an extra $600 you can have it camo'd.





On Sep 23, 2009, at 14:08 , Joseph McAllister wrote:



On Sep 23, 2009, at 13:11 , Ken Waller wrote:


As opposed to 



I had sent a msg 3  minutes before this on titled Pentaxians who  only 
shoot Canon, but hang out anyway...


Apparently, it never arrived at PDML headquarters. I just resent it, 
let's see what happens.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com


Subject: And for the Pentaxians who still shoot Pentax cameras and 
lenses...




http://tinyurl.com/lxfac5




Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com



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Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Waller

and all I read is oh those lenses suck anyway and why do it?


Well EXCUSSE me.

I simply asked a simple question.
If there were few lenses available, I might understand the value of the $135 
adaptor.


That's all.

I didn't imply a thing, I was trying to understand the use of the 110 lens 
on the camera body.


Geez.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Got any Pentax 110 lenses lying about?



... they look silly ...


I spend my time looking through a camera, not at it.


... Pentax K to micro-FourThirds adapter costs $270 ...


That's a Novoflex adapter, probably the most expensive vendor out
there, and totally unneeded unless you are adapting DA series lenses
to micro-FourThirds. A 'dumb' FourThirds to micro-FourThirds adapter
(no electronics) is $80, add a Pentax K or M42  to FourThirds adapter
for another $12 to $30. That's what I use for my M50/1.4 and SMC-T
135/3.5 lenses.


The question for me is why?
Are there not many other lenses available for this body?


There are currently eight micro-FourThirds lenses (and three known to
be on the roadmap for late 2009/early 2010) as follows:

Micro-FourThirds Lens List At The Present Time (Sept 09)

Panasonic, current:
G Vario 7-14
G Vario 14-45 OIS
G Vario 14-140 (150?) HD OIS
G 20
G Vario 45-200 OIS
Macro-Elmarit-GD 45 OIS

Panasonic, upcoming on the roadmap:
G 8 Fish Eye
G 14
G Vario 100-300 OIS

Olympus, current:
M.Zuiko 17
M.Zuiko 14-42

In addition to that, using the FourThirds to micro-FourThirds
adapters, you can use all of the Panasonic/Leica, Olympus and Sigma
lenses made for FourThirds SLRs (about 30 more lenses in total, from
consumer to super-high-end pro).

But people have a lenses already that they want to put to use. Many
people seem to have Pentax 110 kits with a defunct body and would like
to use their lens collection on something that can support digital
capture. It's fun, that's all. $135 for an adapter? that's not bad to
get some use out of lenses that you have lying in a drawer and would
otherwise just go into the trash bin.

I don't understand the attitudes on this PENTAX forum. Here is a way
that someone can have a little fun with some neat old Pentax stuff,
and all I read is oh those lenses suck anyway and why do it?

Oh well, so much for Pentax joy and fun. I guess you'd all rather be
arguing about noise and build quality problems in your K7 and lenses,
celebrating the Pink version of a KX-M, or otherwise pissin'  moanin'
about aperture simulators.



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