PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Chris Mitchell
A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
Rover 75 Cyclops:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely original
and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. It's
been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem and
we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some evening
shots by the sea.

He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html

Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
today...

There's more in the gallery if you're interested.

Chris





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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Bob W
  He got in the van, then explained to me that, since I wasn't British,
  I didn't understand how to deal with natives.
 
  To a great extent, the way the British deal with natives is why the
  world is as fucked up as it is today.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 The irony being that of the European Powers, the British were by far the
 nicest of the lot to natives in foreign colonies (with the Germans in
close
 second). The Belgians on the other hand...

thanks. That's like being known as the nicest serial killer.

Bob


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Re: GESO: Parkville Days

2010-08-25 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:46 -0500, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Brian - in the photo you commented on, besides the two Yorkies in the
 lady's lap, note that she is carrying a (large) plastic bag of something
 edible - Kettle Corn. This is like pop corn but is sweet as well as
 salty. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettle_corn] I don't think you can
 buy much of anything at affairs like these which isn't sweet and/or
 fried.  But don't knock the deep-fried Snickers Bars or similar
 health-food offerings  until you've tried them!
 


No, not knocking them at all as an occasional treat. I worry about
people who eat these sorts of things daily, though.

We have our own deep fried 'health foods' that can hold their own with
anything else offered world wide.  'Pluto Pups' are a case in point -
similar to corn dogs but deep fried in batter and usually served with
lashings of tomato sauce.  They look disgusting and taste similarly, or
at least they did on the only occasion I was tempted to try one.



Cheers

Brian

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 On Aug 24, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
  On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:59 -0500, Paul Sorenson
  allarou...@earthlink.net wrote:
   Here you go, Brian - Funnel Cakes
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Lv3vgmfRwNR=1
  
  
  
  So, basically it's fried dough and sugar.  I'm sure they're delicious
  but I could feel my arteries hardening just watching that.
  
  Thanks, Paul.  There's no question that this list can't answer
  
  
  
  Cheers
  
  Brian
  
  Brian Walters
  Western Sydney Australia
  
  
  On 8/24/2010 6:22 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
  On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:40 -0500, Stan Halpin
  s...@stans-photography.info  wrote:
  I just put together a quick gallery from shots taken the last two days.
  
  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p228893311
  
  Background: Parkville Missouri is a small town near me, in the shadow of
  Kansas City. The powers-that-be in the town have long been aggressive in
  promoting the town, and there are at least four festivals each year: 4th
  of July, Parkville Days, Oktoberfest, and Christmas on the River. July
  4th and Christmas on the River involve fireworks, all except the
  Christmas on the River involve a carnival plus a number of vendors and
  organizations doing their thing. Our church had a tent and I spent some
  time there this weekend, but also much time wandering and watching and
  shooting. The site is a park on the banks of the MIssouri river. Click
  the link for a taste of a hot summer's weekend in a small town in
  America's heartland . . .
  
  stan
  
  
  A really nice documentary and an interesting insight to American
  colloquialisms.  I can work out what 'Texas Tater's might be and I could
  even have a stab at 'Corn Dogs'.  But 'Funnel Cakes'??
  
  This one made me grin:
  
  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p228893311/h2cdd1f9d#h2afd7a17
  
  
  
  
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Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-25 Thread David Mann
On Aug 25, 2010, at 2:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 if I had an eye that was damaged to the point of blindness, yes.

I'd think about it too... more so if it was a millimetre-wave camera ;)

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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread Leon Altoff
Hi Rick,

I bought a Domke J803 bag in November 08 and then carried it every day
on a 3 month trip around the world.  I have only bought one bag since
then, and that was another J803 as a spare.

In it I carry a K7, 12-24, 17-70, 60-250, dfa100 2.8 WR and AF360FGZ
along with spare cards, batteries, torch, spare glasses, tissues,
salt, headache tablets, tea bags or sachets of hot chocolate mix and
for 3 months at least a map of whatever city I was in at the time.
I'll admit I have to rearrange things to get the K7 with 60-250
attached back into the bag (it normally has the 17-70 attached).

The only change I did make was to change the strap to a Tom Bihn
absolute strap http://www.tombihn.com/page/001/PROD/ACC/TB0505 which
is absolutely wonderful if you are carrying around that much weight
all day every day.

At any rate it works for me.  I'm even considering getting rid of some
of the bags I no longer use.

Leon


On 25 August 2010 04:44, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The Bag Accumulation Project is entering a new chapter...

 I'm looking for a light messenger-style shoulder bag to hold my K7 with 
 16-45, 10-17, 50-200, and maybe the 50/1.7.  I like my Orion AW, but it can 
 hold a lot more than that and is bulky.

 Does anyone have a LowePro Midtown or Exchange that would care to comment on 
 it?  Courierware has some interesting stuff but is expensive.  The Tamrac 
 Evolution and Temba Messenger are too big.

 Other alternatives?

 Cheers,

 Rick

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Re: PAW33 - Dress

2010-08-25 Thread DagT


On Aug 24, 2010, at 1:16 PM, DagT wrote:

 Luckily, there was someone else wearing that one... .-)

Not Dave I hope!


I'm not sure if I should tell you...

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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Enjoyable gallery.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took
 photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some
 from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a
 jet-lagged walk around Southampton:

 http://enticingthelight.com/2010/08/17/a-photowalk-with-the-samsung-nx10-and-30mm-f2/

 You'll excuse me for having taken them with the Sammy NX10 + 30mm f/2
 -- until Pentax delivers us to EVIL, it's all I've got.

 CC welcome, of course.

 Cheers,


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Re: PESO: Only 39

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. I like the angle here and the reflections.

Dave

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11488957

 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are all Welcome.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread eckinator
2010/8/25 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca:

 There is in fact Skiing in Canada in July. It's also a tourist trap
 (Glacier Skiing in the BC mountains). So tourists with skiis in July
 aren't stupid, unless they're east of Calgary.

The ones I was thinking of when I wrote this were people I saw
crossing the Peace Bridge at Niagara Falls...
Cheers
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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Nice image non the less. I like the reds here.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first of many from August 12 in Montreal.

 I learned quite a bit in Kansas City the month before. Still very
 harsh lighting and hard to control. Shot with a Canon S90 in Auto,
 which I found was better than trying to adjust to the constantly
 changing light.  Haven't read the manual yet totally, but apparently
 RAW is not recorded in Auto, a bit of a disappointment if true.

 Anyhould, a wonderful, mind-blowing concert from, by most all counts,
 the most acclaimed rock musician of our time.

 This was during the opening song. Sitting in the stands of the sports
 arena, waiting for the show to begin...

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11491590

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread eckinator
2010/8/25 Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com:

 [...]
 Eventually, the manager turns up. He explains that his
 cleaning staff found the pouch, so he went downtown
 to see if he could spot us having breakfast, and when
 that failed, he got on the bus to Kandahar to find us
 there. Then he spotted our van coming back, so he
 got off the bus and hitched back.

 Here's your pouch. I've taken 10 pounds for my
 expenses.

 By Afghan standards of the time, 10 quid is a lot
 of money, quite likely two or three times the
 actual expenses. On the other hand, there was
 1000 or so in the pouch, so I reckon Roger
 should be distinctly happy.

Very much so seeing that there was also time spent and that courtesy
was done well beyond the reasonably expectable. Had the manager taken
it to the lost and found, he would have gotten many times more under
the law in most any Western nation that I can think of. Here, 5% is
compulsory minimum.

 Roger is not happy, claims the guy is robbing him.
 Wants to call the police.

What a bloody ingrate.

 I tell him he's being an idiot,

Good for you =)

 and anyway the chief
 of police is the manager's uncle. You should be
 thinking about how much more to give him, not
 bitching about 10.

Absolutely.

 My wife is more direct. We are leaving. Do you
 want to shut up and get in the van? Or should
 we dump your luggage here?

 He got in the van, then explained to me that,
 since I wasn't British, I didn't understand how
 to deal with natives.

Sure, once you no longer need their hospitality...

You sure topped it. What a crying shame.

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Re: Disablement, followed by Super Enablement

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Good news indeed.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:
 Today is my last day at the sign shop.  After 4:30pm (Pacific time), I
 will be unemployed.

 It won't last long, though: On thursday I start my new job at a
 non-profit in Berkeley.  Finally, full time work!

 Hopefully this means I'll be able to pay off my credit card debt from
 almost two years of part-time work and then upgrade my camera sometime
 after the K5 comes out. :D

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Re: peso - piano

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
I agree with the other comments, piano is very dark and i would not
have known had you not mentioned it, but, i think its a great photo
with a fine mood and light.

Dave

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Re: GESO: Parkville Days

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Some great shots Stan.

This one i like very much:

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p228893311/h25525063#h25525063

Dave

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I just put together a quick gallery from shots taken the last two days.

 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p228893311

 Background: Parkville Missouri is a small town near me, in the shadow of 
 Kansas City. The powers-that-be in the town have long been aggressive in 
 promoting the town, and there are at least four festivals each year: 4th of 
 July, Parkville Days, Oktoberfest, and Christmas on the River. July 4th and 
 Christmas on the River involve fireworks, all except the Christmas on the 
 River involve a carnival plus a number of vendors and organizations doing 
 their thing. Our church had a tent and I spent some time there this weekend, 
 but also much time wandering and watching and shooting. The site is a park on 
 the banks of the MIssouri river. Click the link for a taste of a hot summer's 
 weekend in a small town in America's heartland . . .

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Re: PAW33 - Dress

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Interesting theme, but, i like the patterns working here.

Dave

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 http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 K20D, da*16-5...@29mm, 1/30s, f/2.8, ISO200

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Re: PESO - City Rails

2010-08-25 Thread David J Brooks
Love the pattern and the conversion

Dave

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 So long time since my last PESO, hence I'd try this one in the hi-con
 series:
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/misc/misc26e.htm

 Dario

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PESO - At the Water

2010-08-25 Thread frank theriault
For some reason I thought this dog was funny - he was on to me the whole time:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-water.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - NSX Detail

2010-08-25 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very nice, frank!

Godfrey, Dave, thanks!

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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 August 2010 05:37, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took
 photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some
 from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a
 jet-lagged walk around Southampton:

Cool gallery, very familiar territory for me. ;-)

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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-25 Thread Walter Gilbert

   I like it!  He certainly appears to be earning his keep.

Walt


On 8/25/2010 5:56 AM, frank theriault wrote:

For some reason I thought this dog was funny - he was on to me the whole time:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-water.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 August 2010 10:51, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first of many from August 12 in Montreal.

 I learned quite a bit in Kansas City the month before. Still very
 harsh lighting and hard to control. Shot with a Canon S90 in Auto,
 which I found was better than trying to adjust to the constantly
 changing light.  Haven't read the manual yet totally, but apparently
 RAW is not recorded in Auto, a bit of a disappointment if true.

Nice capture, hope I get the chance to see him in concert one day too.

It's true the S90 doesn't capture in RAW in auto, scene or low light
modes, pity, in any case I've taken to primarily shooting Av and
Manual virtually all the time. Trust the screen and get familiar with
the EV comp function. Set EV comp for the wheel around the 4-way
rocker if it's not already, it ends up a very intuitive way to shoot,
I've got mine very well behaved now. Also get one of Richard's grips
if you haven't already, it truly transforms the ergonomics.

http://www.kleptography.com/rf/#camera_s90

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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-25 Thread Jack Davis
You must have looked to be a possible threat what with you hiding behind that 
camera. ;)

Jack

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 Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:56 AM
 For some reason I thought this dog
 was funny - he was on to me the whole time:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-water.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-25 Thread eckinator
Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? And do
you feel some of the below?

I have a fine collection of Japanese kitchen knives (Azai, Bunmei,
Global, Hayashi, Hirotomo, Masatsune and Yoshisada Seiryu) that are a
true pleasure to use. And yet these days I'm hardly tempted any more
when I see a blade that looks as though it could fill another
imaginary niche in my knife park. Instead my taste leans more and more
towards doing more things with a smaller number of shapes or even just
one. In a nutshell, knives hardly get my wanna-have light flashing any
more. I am saturated. I am even thinking of selling some knives to
free up some money for lenses...

My camera comes back on Friday. I'll go back to thinking about lenses
I don't have then. Can you tell I am missing it? And it is just a K10D
with no metering or AF worth bragging about... =)

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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
Thanks.

Of course in this type of setting there's very little time to adjust
to the light before you lose a shot or the light changes drastically.
It's not like in a small setting where the lighting remains relatively
constant.  Both stage lighting and the gigantic LED displays behind
the stage were changing all the time. The S90 had particular problems
focusing in the blue light.  Exposure also failed in the blue light
but seemed to work relatively good at other times.

Tom C.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 August 2010 10:51, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first of many from August 12 in Montreal.

 I learned quite a bit in Kansas City the month before. Still very
 harsh lighting and hard to control. Shot with a Canon S90 in Auto,
 which I found was better than trying to adjust to the constantly
 changing light.  Haven't read the manual yet totally, but apparently
 RAW is not recorded in Auto, a bit of a disappointment if true.

 Nice capture, hope I get the chance to see him in concert one day too.

 It's true the S90 doesn't capture in RAW in auto, scene or low light
 modes, pity, in any case I've taken to primarily shooting Av and
 Manual virtually all the time. Trust the screen and get familiar with
 the EV comp function. Set EV comp for the wheel around the 4-way
 rocker if it's not already, it ends up a very intuitive way to shoot,
 I've got mine very well behaved now. Also get one of Richard's grips
 if you haven't already, it truly transforms the ergonomics.

 http://www.kleptography.com/rf/#camera_s90

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 of the European Powers, the British were by far
 the nicest of the lot to natives

 Oh, please;  give me a break.

 Dan

It's accurate. The British weren't nice, but the Continentals were
worse (aside from the Germans who didn't get into the Colonial thing
until the 19th century). Of the other Colonial powers, the Germans
were comparable to the British, the Portugese tended to be only a bit
more heavy-handed (well, arguably, the Portugese were distinctly worse
in the Americas but arguably nicer in their Asian possessions then the
British), the Dutch were pretty heavy-handed, the Spanish and French
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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
I found as time went on that operating in TV mode worked good,
allowing me to consistently use a shutter speed fast enough (1/80), if
I remember correctly, to eliminate most of the motion blur.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks.

 Of course in this type of setting there's very little time to adjust
 to the light before you lose a shot or the light changes drastically.
 It's not like in a small setting where the lighting remains relatively
 constant.  Both stage lighting and the gigantic LED displays behind
 the stage were changing all the time. The S90 had particular problems
 focusing in the blue light.  Exposure also failed in the blue light
 but seemed to work relatively good at other times.

 Tom C.

 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 August 2010 10:51, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first of many from August 12 in Montreal.

 I learned quite a bit in Kansas City the month before. Still very
 harsh lighting and hard to control. Shot with a Canon S90 in Auto,
 which I found was better than trying to adjust to the constantly
 changing light.  Haven't read the manual yet totally, but apparently
 RAW is not recorded in Auto, a bit of a disappointment if true.

 Nice capture, hope I get the chance to see him in concert one day too.

 It's true the S90 doesn't capture in RAW in auto, scene or low light
 modes, pity, in any case I've taken to primarily shooting Av and
 Manual virtually all the time. Trust the screen and get familiar with
 the EV comp function. Set EV comp for the wheel around the 4-way
 rocker if it's not already, it ends up a very intuitive way to shoot,
 I've got mine very well behaved now. Also get one of Richard's grips
 if you haven't already, it truly transforms the ergonomics.

 http://www.kleptography.com/rf/#camera_s90

 Cheers,

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is British propaganda.

Just what the British did in Ireland alone, for so many centuries,
should keep them from criticizing continentals.  Then there was
Scotland, and Wales.  Right here in my home town, they burned down the
courthouse and the church, because the people here were Dutch
Americans instead of English.  They committed brutal war crimes in the
Carolinas during the Revolutionary War.

Look at China, where they forced opium on a nation just to maintain
their tea fix.  The Indian subcontinent was given even harsher
treatment.  Their invasion of Russia, after the communist revolution,
contributed greatly to the paranoia that controlled Soviet foreign
policy for 75 years.

The British started the whole nonsense about the white man's burden.
 Now, they criticize the Belgians for following their lead?  I don't
buy it.  There is no excuse for what Belgium did in the Congo.  That
was dreadful, but actually quite limited in time and territory to what
Britain did, all over the globe, with such masterful administrative
skill and military overkil, for cfenturies.

Dan



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 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 of the European Powers, the British were by far
 the nicest of the lot to natives

 Oh, please;  give me a break.

 Dan

 It's accurate. The British weren't nice, but the Continentals were
 worse (aside from the Germans who didn't get into the Colonial thing
 until the 19th century). Of the other Colonial powers, the Germans
 were comparable to the British, the Portugese tended to be only a bit
 more heavy-handed (well, arguably, the Portugese were distinctly worse
 in the Americas but arguably nicer in their Asian possessions then the
 British), the Dutch were pretty heavy-handed, the Spanish and French
 were distinctly nasty and the Belgians were just about a nightmare to
 those they colonized.

 -Adam

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Re: PESO: Only 39

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, David.  That is what I was trying to capture.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:57 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice. I like the angle here and the reflections.

 Dave

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11488957

 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are all Welcome.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread David Savage
Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets  Monty Python so all is forgiven.

DS

On 25 August 2010 21:42, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is British propaganda.

 Just what the British did in Ireland alone, for so many centuries,
 should keep them from criticizing continentals.  Then there was
 Scotland, and Wales.  Right here in my home town, they burned down the
 courthouse and the church, because the people here were Dutch
 Americans instead of English.  They committed brutal war crimes in the
 Carolinas during the Revolutionary War.

 Look at China, where they forced opium on a nation just to maintain
 their tea fix.  The Indian subcontinent was given even harsher
 treatment.  Their invasion of Russia, after the communist revolution,
 contributed greatly to the paranoia that controlled Soviet foreign
 policy for 75 years.

 The British started the whole nonsense about the white man's burden.
  Now, they criticize the Belgians for following their lead?  I don't
 buy it.  There is no excuse for what Belgium did in the Congo.  That
 was dreadful, but actually quite limited in time and territory to what
 Britain did, all over the globe, with such masterful administrative
 skill and military overkil, for cfenturies.

 Dan



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 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 of the European Powers, the British were by far
 the nicest of the lot to natives

 Oh, please;  give me a break.

 Dan

 It's accurate. The British weren't nice, but the Continentals were
 worse (aside from the Germans who didn't get into the Colonial thing
 until the 19th century). Of the other Colonial powers, the Germans
 were comparable to the British, the Portugese tended to be only a bit
 more heavy-handed (well, arguably, the Portugese were distinctly worse
 in the Americas but arguably nicer in their Asian possessions then the
 British), the Dutch were pretty heavy-handed, the Spanish and French
 were distinctly nasty and the Belgians were just about a nightmare to
 those they colonized.

 -Adam

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PESO: Dining on Broadway

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Comments. Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are All Welcome.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Monty Python is a treasure;  they did a few great routines on the
white man's burden as I recall.

Crumpets they can keep, along with their excuse for bacon and rubber eggs.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:47 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets  Monty Python so all is forgiven.

 DS

 On 25 August 2010 21:42, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is British propaganda.

 Just what the British did in Ireland alone, for so many centuries,
 should keep them from criticizing continentals.  Then there was
 Scotland, and Wales.  Right here in my home town, they burned down the
 courthouse and the church, because the people here were Dutch
 Americans instead of English.  They committed brutal war crimes in the
 Carolinas during the Revolutionary War.

 Look at China, where they forced opium on a nation just to maintain
 their tea fix.  The Indian subcontinent was given even harsher
 treatment.  Their invasion of Russia, after the communist revolution,
 contributed greatly to the paranoia that controlled Soviet foreign
 policy for 75 years.

 The British started the whole nonsense about the white man's burden.
  Now, they criticize the Belgians for following their lead?  I don't
 buy it.  There is no excuse for what Belgium did in the Congo.  That
 was dreadful, but actually quite limited in time and territory to what
 Britain did, all over the globe, with such masterful administrative
 skill and military overkil, for cfenturies.

 Dan



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 On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 of the European Powers, the British were by far
 the nicest of the lot to natives

 Oh, please;  give me a break.

 Dan

 It's accurate. The British weren't nice, but the Continentals were
 worse (aside from the Germans who didn't get into the Colonial thing
 until the 19th century). Of the other Colonial powers, the Germans
 were comparable to the British, the Portugese tended to be only a bit
 more heavy-handed (well, arguably, the Portugese were distinctly worse
 in the Americas but arguably nicer in their Asian possessions then the
 British), the Dutch were pretty heavy-handed, the Spanish and French
 were distinctly nasty and the Belgians were just about a nightmare to
 those they colonized.

 -Adam

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a fine old auto, and a wonderful image.  Thanks for sharing.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
 Rover 75 Cyclops:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

 The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely original
 and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. It's
 been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem and
 we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
 Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some evening
 shots by the sea.

 He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html

 Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
 imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
 today...

 There's more in the gallery if you're interested.

 Chris





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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
He is protecting his masters from your invasion of his humans'
privacy.  Great image, Frank.

Dan

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 For some reason I thought this dog was funny - he was on to me the whole time:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-water.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Jet

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:


For some reason I thought this dog was funny - he was on to me the whole time:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-water.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

 


that has a nice Erwittian feel, Frank.

I think he's funny, too

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread William Robb


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A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
Rover 75 Cyclops:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html


Isn't that a tricyclops?

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is British propaganda.

 Just what the British did in Ireland alone, for so many centuries,
 should keep them from criticizing continentals.  Then there was
 Scotland, and Wales.  Right here in my home town, they burned down the
 courthouse and the church, because the people here were Dutch
 Americans instead of English.  They committed brutal war crimes in the
 Carolinas during the Revolutionary War.

 Look at China, where they forced opium on a nation just to maintain
 their tea fix.  The Indian subcontinent was given even harsher
 treatment.  Their invasion of Russia, after the communist revolution,
 contributed greatly to the paranoia that controlled Soviet foreign
 policy for 75 years.

 The British started the whole nonsense about the white man's burden.
  Now, they criticize the Belgians for following their lead?  I don't
 buy it.  There is no excuse for what Belgium did in the Congo.  That
 was dreadful, but actually quite limited in time and territory to what
 Britain did, all over the globe, with such masterful administrative
 skill and military overkil, for cfenturies.

 Dan


Dan,

I'm well aware of what the British did in their colonies. They were
not anything resembling nice. The Spanish in particular were worse,
much worse. The Dutch were every bit as bad as the British at their
worst (particularly in the Dutch East Indies) and never as nice as the
British at their best, as were the French and the Portuguese. If you
think what happened in Ireland was bad, read some history about the
Spanish Netherlands sometime, or frankly some Finnish History
(colonized by the Swede's and then taken over by the Russians).
Ireland was not subjected to centuries of oppression and frankly most
of the tales about the British oppression of the Irish are not
historical (Like in Scotland, it was mostly the local nobles doing the
oppressing, backed by the British to varying extents). And the
Belgians? They followed the French lead in Africa, not the British
lead.

Oh, and the 'White Man's Burden'? That comes from one extremely
sarcastic poem by Kipling warning the US that Colonialism was a bad
idea for the colonized and the colonizer both.

Also note your comment on British interference after the Communist
Revolution is simple nonsense. Paranoia in Russian Foreign Policy has
been the norm for centuries. The Communists were if anything less
prone to it than their predecessors.  If the British and their allies
had been successful in aiding the Whites it likely would have saved
millions of lives over the last 90 years.

-Adam

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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Jet

2010-08-25 Thread P N Stenquist

Well done. Good tonality.
Paul

On Aug 25, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Tom C wrote:


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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Jet

2010-08-25 Thread Miserere
On 25 August 2010 10:03, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11495071

How did you smuggle the camera in?  :-)


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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
years.

That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
more suffering than they purport to prevent.

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Indeed it is!

Dan

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 A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
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 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

 Isn't that a tricyclops?

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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-25 Thread Miserere
On 24 August 2010 20:51, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first of many from August 12 in Montreal.

 I learned quite a bit in Kansas City the month before. Still very
 harsh lighting and hard to control. Shot with a Canon S90 in Auto,
 which I found was better than trying to adjust to the constantly
 changing light.  Haven't read the manual yet totally, but apparently
 RAW is not recorded in Auto, a bit of a disappointment if true.

 Anyhould, a wonderful, mind-blowing concert from, by most all counts,
 the most acclaimed rock musician of our time.

 This was during the opening song. Sitting in the stands of the sports
 arena, waiting for the show to begin...

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11491590

 Tom C

Hey Tom, I like this one better than Jet. I've used the S90 before
as a concert camera and can attest to the difficulty of it. I
preferred Tv to be sure the musicians were sharp, or M with crossed
fingers  :-)


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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread David Savage
On 25 August 2010 22:40, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
 however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
 Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
 welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

 If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
 Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
 years.

 That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
 colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
 more suffering than they purport to prevent.

It's amazing what a country will do to secure a supply of honey to go
with their crumpets.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
 however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
 Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
 welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

This is laughably inaccurate. The excuse the Bolsheviks used was the
attempt to grant massive amounts of Russian lands to the German and
Ottoman Empires in the first proposed peace treaty ending the war on
the eastern front in WW1, this predates the Allied Intervention.

The Bolsheviks won because the Whites couldn't agree on anything and
the majority of the Allied Intervention forces (the Imperial Japanese
Army, which sent 70,000 troops, the majority of the forces) was
uninterested in anything outside of Siberia and frankly, the
Bolsheviks had a stranglehold on the core of Russia right from the
start of the Civil War. Being taken over by the Colonial Powers was
never a significant factor in the Civil War outside of Siberia (and
there it was Japan, not the European Powers, that was the threat)


 If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
 Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
 years.

 That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
 colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
 more suffering than they purport to prevent.

 Dan


It's also accurate. The Ukrainian Famines of the 1930's were entirely
a creation of the Soviets and would otherwise have been avoided,
saving millions of lives right there.


-Adam

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread CheekyGeek
Love the 1950 Rover image!
Wonderful light quality.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Jet

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
Cameras were allowed as long as they didn't have removable lenses.  I
even got the NEX-5 in but the security guard at the seats had an issue
with the zoom lens (18 - 55).  I explained that it was shorter than
most zooms in people's point and shoots, but all he could say was
they don't like to see zooms.  So I basically didn't use the NEX-5
except for wide angle stage shots with the 16mm.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 August 2010 10:03, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11495071

 How did you smuggle the camera in?  :-)


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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
Thanks. So did I.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 24 August 2010 20:51, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first of many from August 12 in Montreal.

 I learned quite a bit in Kansas City the month before. Still very
 harsh lighting and hard to control. Shot with a Canon S90 in Auto,
 which I found was better than trying to adjust to the constantly
 changing light.  Haven't read the manual yet totally, but apparently
 RAW is not recorded in Auto, a bit of a disappointment if true.

 Anyhould, a wonderful, mind-blowing concert from, by most all counts,
 the most acclaimed rock musician of our time.

 This was during the opening song. Sitting in the stands of the sports
 arena, waiting for the show to begin...

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11491590

 Tom C

 Hey Tom, I like this one better than Jet. I've used the S90 before
 as a concert camera and can attest to the difficulty of it. I
 preferred Tv to be sure the musicians were sharp, or M with crossed
 fingers  :-)


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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
I love the front end Rover shot, but think it could benefit from a
judicious rotation and crop to straighten it... not to be critical.
Nice image and car.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
 Rover 75 Cyclops:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

 The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely original
 and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. It's
 been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem and
 we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
 Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some evening
 shots by the sea.

 He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html

 Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
 imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
 today...

 There's more in the gallery if you're interested.

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Miserere
On 25 August 2010 02:16, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
 Rover 75 Cyclops:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

 The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely original
 and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. It's
 been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem and
 we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
 Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some evening
 shots by the sea.

 He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html

 Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
 imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
 today...

 There's more in the gallery if you're interested.

 Chris

That Rover shot is the best of the lot (as much as I liked the
tractors!). It would be fun to drive, I bet.


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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Jet

2010-08-25 Thread Miserere
On 25 August 2010 10:59, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cameras were allowed as long as they didn't have removable lenses.  I
 even got the NEX-5 in but the security guard at the seats had an issue
 with the zoom lens (18 - 55).  I explained that it was shorter than
 most zooms in people's point and shoots, but all he could say was
 they don't like to see zooms.  So I basically didn't use the NEX-5
 except for wide angle stage shots with the 16mm.

I had a similar issue at a concert where I was shooting from my seat
with the K10D + 77 Ltd and nobody said anything, but after a couple of
minutes shooting with the Sigma 70-300mm an usher came over and
basically said my lens was too big. I thanked her for the compliment
and just shot with the S90 for the rest of the concert  :-)


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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Chris,
Lovely shot and unusual car!  Looks showroom new.
And love the tiny tractor in the headlamp, an early example of branding.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
 Rover 75 Cyclops:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

 The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely original
 and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. It's
 been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem and
 we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
 Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some evening
 shots by the sea.

 He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html

 Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
 imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
 today...

 There's more in the gallery if you're interested.

 Chris





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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-25 Thread Miserere
On 24 August 2010 16:54, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 they are excellent - I love to see how visitors picture England, and yours
 show a very distinct voice of your own.

I shouldn't be a visitor having been born in the UK and spent almost
4 adult years in Southampton, but I do feel like one when I'm there.

 This one in particular is outstanding:
 http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/SAM_1866-small.jpg

Thanks Bob! That's my favourite too--it's just so...rigid  :-)  You'd
think these are friends posing for me, but they're not, they were just
standing there. On another forum someone mentioned The
Bodysnatchers, which I find quite appropriate.

 it's a pity we missed each other. Mike  family were down for a couple of
 days and we had some nice cups of tea together, wondering what had becoma of
 you.

Maybe next time, then. We can take some photos together and drink tea,
maybe at the same time.

 Looking forward to the London shots.

Me too! So much stuff to do and so little time...  :-(


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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-25 Thread Miserere
On 25 August 2010 07:45, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool gallery, very familiar territory for me. ;-)

It is? It's a bit far from Australia, you know?  :-)


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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
This is laughably inaccurate.

Thanks for respecting the opinions  of others.

I was an international relations major in college, with a minor in
Soviet Studies.  I researched and studied the intervention and its
aftermath in some detail, including sources in Russian I obtained from
archive in Germany and Russia.  There were numerous examples where the
hard-liners used the intervention, and the fact that it was
orchestrated by Britain with participation of American troops, as
evidence that the West was plotting to overthrow the Soviet government
and impose their own regime upon Russia.

I am no fan of communism;  my great-grandparents suffered under the
Soviet  occupation of Czechoslovakia after WW II.  The Soviets were
brutal butchers.  That being said, the British intervention in Russia
was an ill-conceived exercise in cultural arrogance that was doomed
from the start and and helped solidify Bolshevik control of Russia.
Many who initially saw the Civil War as a battle between two views of
Russia's future were convinced by the intervention that it was really
a struggle to keep foreign powers from dominating their future.  The
intervention thus was counter-productive and drove many moderates to
the side of the Reds.

Dan

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread drd1135
Have you ever had them without honey?
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Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:47:39 
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Subject: Re: Leica's done with film

On 25 August 2010 22:40, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
 however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
 Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
 welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

 If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
 Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
 years.

 That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
 colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
 more suffering than they purport to prevent.

It's amazing what a country will do to secure a supply of honey to go
with their crumpets.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is laughably inaccurate.

 Thanks for respecting the opinions  of others.

I have little time for rehashing of Soviet Propaganda, which the
position you described earlier primarily is.


 I was an international relations major in college, with a minor in
 Soviet Studies.  I researched and studied the intervention and its
 aftermath in some detail, including sources in Russian I obtained from
 archive in Germany and Russia.

While I've never studied the period in an official class, I've done
very extensive reading on the subject myself as it impacts a part of
history rather important to my own family history (being of White
Finnish descent).

There were numerous examples where the
 hard-liners used the intervention, and the fact that it was
 orchestrated by Britain with participation of American troops, as
 evidence that the West was plotting to overthrow the Soviet government
 and impose their own regime upon Russia.

Considering that the Soviet government was one party in the Civil War
and a creature of the Bolsheviks and various allied groups and that
their opponents, including both the Whites and the Cossacks, were
actively trying to overthrow it before the Allied Intervention your
point is pretty much irrelevant. Of course they were trying to
overthrow the Soviet Government. Everybody except the Bolsheviks and
their allies of the moment were trying to do exactly that. The Soviet
Government had precious little legitimacy until late in the Civil War.

And yes, the Hardliners used the Intervention as evidence that the
West was plotting to overthrow the Soviet Government and impose their
own regime upon Russia. The former was accurate, the latter was
propaganda.


 I am no fan of communism;  my great-grandparents suffered under the
 Soviet  occupation of Czechoslovakia after WW II.  The Soviets were
 brutal butchers.  That being said, the British intervention in Russia
 was an ill-conceived exercise in cultural arrogance that was doomed
 from the start and and helped solidify Bolshevik control of Russia.
 Many who initially saw the Civil War as a battle between two views of
 Russia's future were convinced by the intervention that it was really
 a struggle to keep foreign powers from dominating their future.  The
 intervention thus was counter-productive and drove many moderates to
 the side of the Reds.

 Dan


That's an interesting take on it, considering it was only British and
French support which kept the White cause alive as long as it ended up
lasting. Without the British and French support the Bolsheviks would
have ended up defeating the Whites much earlier.

The idea that significant numbers of Russians were convinced by the
intervention that it was really a struggle to keep foreign powers from
dominating their future remains mostly Soviet propaganda. Note the
Intervention was over by the time that the Bolsheviks started picking
up serious support from moderates, it's much more likely that the
withdrawal of the Intervention forces drove those moderates into the
Bolsheviks camp as it became clear that the West wasn't going to make
a serious effort to defeat the Bolsheviks than the Intervention doing
the opposite, the timeline of the war itself shows that, with the war
being fought from 1917 through 1922/23 and the Intervention lasting
from 1918 to 1920 aside from the Japanese in Siberia.

I do agree however that the intervention was an ill-conceived exercise
that was doomed from the start. Cultural Arrogance? Not so much as a
well founded belief that Communism was dangerous and worries that war
supplies provided to Russia would fall into German hands and prolong
the war. Stupid? Most certainly ouside of supporting the Whites in
Finland (which had little effect on the Russian side of things
anyways)

-Adam

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread John Mullan
I wonder if the tractor in the headlamp wasn't a tax thing.  Tractor lamps 
may not have been taxed the same as an auto headlamp and had the tractor as 
an identifier to keep it from being used in a road going vehicle.  Assuming 
they were the same size of course.


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A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
Rover 75 Cyclops:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely 
original
and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. 
It's
been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem 
and

we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some 
evening

shots by the sea.

He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html

Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
today...

There's more in the gallery if you're interested.

Chris





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Re: Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Chris Mitchell

 
 From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com
 Date: 2010/08/25 Wed PM 03:18:50 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles
 
 On 25 August 2010 02:16, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
  A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
  Rover 75 Cyclops:
  http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html
 
  The 3rd headlamp was removed in later models. This one's completely original
  and has never been repainted - he's even got the original wiper blades. It's
  been in Guernsey all its working life. Sadly it had a mechanical problem and
  we couldn't take it out of the garage so I was limited in what I could do.
  Next time I go over we're going to take it out on location for some evening
  shots by the sea.
 
  He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
  http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html
 
  Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
  imagine anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it
  today...
 
  There's more in the gallery if you're interested.
 
  Chris
 
 That Rover shot is the best of the lot (as much as I liked the
 tractors!). It would be fun to drive, I bet.
 
 
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See what you missed by not coming to Guernsey for a PDML meeting! 

As you say, great fun to drive. I had a 1957 Rover 60 for a few years - same 
shape, only 2 headlights and smaller engine. The scary bit was the freewheel 
system - just like freewheeling on a bike. This was sold as a fuel saving 
mechanism which optionally cut out any engine braking for coasting down hill. 
For a car with drum brakes and weighing nearly 2 tons, it took a bit of nerve 
to use it.

Chris


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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread David Savage
I have actually.

Butter  Vegemite is another favourite combination of mine.

On 26 August 2010 00:22,  drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have you ever had them without honey?
 -Original Message-
 From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com
 Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net
 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:47:39
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Leica's done with film

 On 25 August 2010 22:40, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
 however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
 Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
 welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

 If the British and their allies had been successful in aiding the
 Whites it likely would have saved millions of lives over the last 90
 years.

 That is exactly the type of excuse Britain has given for their
 colonial excesses all over the globe for many centuries, causing much
 more suffering than they purport to prevent.

 It's amazing what a country will do to secure a supply of honey to go
 with their crumpets.

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Re: Disablement, followed by Super Enablement

2010-08-25 Thread John Celio
Thanks everyone!  I can't wait to get started at my new job tomorrow.  It's 
not going to be glamorous work, but it's different from my past jobs and I 
think I'm going to enjoy it, for many reasons.  It's going to feel great to 
get back on my feet.


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Good news indeed John, I hope the new job works out well for you.  That K5 
is no longer a pipe dream.  All they have to do is make it.

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John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:


Today is my last day at the sign shop.  After 4:30pm (Pacific time), I
will be unemployed.

It won't last long, though: On thursday I start my new job at a
non-profit in Berkeley.  Finally, full time work!

Hopefully this means I'll be able to pay off my credit card debt from
almost two years of part-time work and then upgrade my camera sometime
after the K5 comes out. :D

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Re: Disablement, followed by Super Enablement

2010-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:01 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:
 Today is my last day at the sign shop.  After 4:30pm (Pacific time), I
 will be unemployed.

 It won't last long, though: On thursday I start my new job at a
 non-profit in Berkeley.  Finally, full time work!

 Hopefully this means I'll be able to pay off my credit card debt from
 almost two years of part-time work and then upgrade my camera sometime
 after the K5 comes out. :D

Great news, John! Good to hear it. :-)
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PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - All My Loving

2010-08-25 Thread Tom C
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11495992

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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'm *almost* as utilitarian about buying knives as I am about buying
camera equipment. ;-)

My favorite knife for the past 28 years has been a custom-made boot
utility knife I commissioned from a local master when I lived in Santa
Cruz. It's been my constant companion whenever I travel and does about
80% of what I need in the kitchen since then. I did a pro bono job
photographing ten of his knives for a knife show back then, so he
offered me the pick of anything in his catalog.

If I bought anything for the kitchen these days, I'd buy a ceramic. :-)

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:56 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? And do
 you feel some of the below?

 I have a fine collection of Japanese kitchen knives (Azai, Bunmei,
 Global, Hayashi, Hirotomo, Masatsune and Yoshisada Seiryu) that are a
 true pleasure to use. And yet these days I'm hardly tempted any more
 when I see a blade that looks as though it could fill another
 imaginary niche in my knife park. Instead my taste leans more and more
 towards doing more things with a smaller number of shapes or even just
 one. In a nutshell, knives hardly get my wanna-have light flashing any
 more. I am saturated. I am even thinking of selling some knives to
 free up some money for lenses...

 My camera comes back on Friday. I'll go back to thinking about lenses
 I don't have then. Can you tell I am missing it? And it is just a K10D
 with no metering or AF worth bragging about... =)

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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread steve harley

On 2010-08-24 12:44 , Rick Womer wrote:

I'm looking for a light messenger-style shoulder bag to hold my K7 with 16-45, 
10-17, 50-200, and maybe the 50/1.7.  I like my Orion AW, but it can hold a lot 
more than that and is bulky.

Does anyone have a LowePro Midtown or Exchange that would care to comment on 
it?  Courierware has some interesting stuff but is expensive.  The Tamrac 
Evolution and Temba Messenger are too big.

Other alternatives?


first of all, hi, i'm steve and i'm a bag whore ...

with that out of the way, i most often use one of my Mountainsmith 
lumbar packs (Tour, Day or my favorite, the larger and out-of-production 
Cairn II) with shoulder strap to carry a body  two lenses; i swear by 
the Mountainsmith suspension -- weight is mostly on my hips, but i can 
easily swing the pack around like a small messenger bag; these are 
unpadded, but i've usually got the second lens in a neoprene wrap and a 
light jacket is rolled under the body, with the lens up; there's enough 
material in the outer pockets to pad light nocks, and the inner waist 
area is padded too; there is also a Kit Cube i haven't tried which is a 
padded photo bag that fits into the Day or Tour, and MountainSmith has 
versions of these bags specifically for photo use


for casual walk-around times, like a walk to a coffee shop, i also use a 
Crumpler Skivvy, which is minimal and fully padded, but not an ideal 
shape for camera kit - i've got a size small, which doesn't hold much 
more than a camera, mounted lens and extra lens (not big lenses); and i 
store my camera and lenses in a Crumpler Six Million Dollar home, but i 
don't walk around with it; it might work well for your kit


when carrying a laptop as well as a camera, i use an Osprey Torque which 
has almost too much room, and is very well padded (also have an Osprey 
Transit, which i found much too big); i've seen the Osprey Astro  
Elroy, which look attractive now that i have a smaller 13 laptop


someone recently mentioned an insert for Manhattan DJ bags -- i've got a 
small one of these bags i use for errands and the insert looks 
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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty

 incidentally I was in a shop at the weekend with my M7 on my shoulder

 Bob I presume you mean your M8?

yes. I'm arithmetically challenged.

I'm still nonplussed.


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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just what the British did in Ireland alone, for so many centuries,
should keep them from criticizing continentals.  Then there was
Scotland, and Wales.  Right here in my home town, they burned down the
courthouse and the church, because the people here were Dutch
Americans instead of English.  They committed brutal war crimes in the
Carolinas during the Revolutionary War.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets

My favourite type of crumpet walks up and down my back in stilettos and
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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, Leon Altoff, discombobulated, unleashed:

I bought a Domke J803 bag in November 08 and then carried it every day
on a 3 month trip around the world.  I have only bought one bag since
then, and that was another J803 as a spare.

The J803 is without doubt a very good bag. I'f I'm out with my small
video camera only, this bag is brilliant. 2nd post down on this page:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/jvc-gy-hm100-camcorder/476163-shoulder-bag-
mic-less-hm100.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/j803video

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Re: OT Done, ready for the Sept 25th

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/8/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well its taken about 10 days, but I have made my final selections for
the Markham Fair photo contest.

Dave, did you plan to send a link?

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Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/8/10, drd1...@gmail.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'd give up one of cotty's eyes.

I'd want an X-ray version ;-)))

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Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
Rover 75 Cyclops:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread eckinator
2010/8/25 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Certainly, the Russians have always been paranoid.  The Brits,
 however, gave the Communists the excuse they needed to convince the
 Russian people that they had to sacrifice their liberty and economic
 welfare to avoid being taken over by colonialist powers of the West.

Beautiful. Let's see another version:

 Certainly, the [...] have always been paranoid.  The [...],
 however, gave the [...] the excuse they needed to convince the
 [...] people that they had to sacrifice their [...] and [...]
 to avoid being [...] by [...].

Fill the blanks any way you like. It is the concept of control through
fear and a common enemy. This has been used to stat wars throughout
history.

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets

 My favourite type of crumpet walks up and down my back in stilettos and
 then licks my knob of butter.

Hopefully, that's chilled butter.
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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-25 Thread eckinator
2010/8/25 Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com:

 I did a pro bono job
 photographing ten of his knives for a knife show back then, so he
 offered me the pick of anything in his catalog.

Go warm up your cam and scanner, Godders, I wanna see.

 If I bought anything for the kitchen these days, I'd buy a ceramic. :-)

I wouldn't. Nothing like hand forged metal, preferably high carbon and
high maintenance. I just can't get utilitarian about it.

For function: Gotta try and remember the name of it but I eBayed for
my soon to be ex boss a cobalt alloyed pm steel knife with 64° HRC.
Next thing he asked my opinion about was a kevlar glove. I offered to
take the knife off his hands but he wouldn't. Too bad none has shown
up in the bay since. It wasn't pretty in my book but sure went through
everything.

Cheers
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Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You can buy x-ray vision glasses from the ads in comic books.

G

Dan

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:


 I'd want an X-ray version ;-)))

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RE: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-25 Thread Bob W
 On 25 August 2010 07:45, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Cool gallery, very familiar territory for me. ;-)
 
 It is? It's a bit far from Australia, you know?  :-)
 

you hang around in navy towns long enough they all start to look the same -
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RE: OT Done, ready for the Sept 25th

2010-08-25 Thread Bob W
 Well its taken about 10 days, but I have made my final selections for
 the Markham Fair photo contest.
 
 Dave, did you plan to send a link?

Jeez, you're so unimaginative!




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RE: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-25 Thread Bob W
 A friend in Guernsey has some interesting old vehicles. This one's a 1950
 Rover 75 Cyclops:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4482.html
 

lovely photograph of a beautiful car.

[...]
 
 He's also got some tractors. This is a headlamp from a 60s Ferguson:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/richardvehicles/slides/_IGP4432.html
 
 Those were still the days when money was available for detail. I can't
imagine
 anyone bothering to make a headlamp with a little tractor on it today...
 

I wouldn't bet on it. That kind of classic tractor is still made in India. I
saw one last week in Cornwall, in British racing green of all colours. My
brother was lusting after it as his own tractor is rusting like mad.
Apparently these Indian ones are dead simple and easy to maintain, rather
like 2CVs. It was, I must admit, a much nicer tractor than my brother's.
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OT: You will never look at a duck the same way

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://topcultured.com/you-will-never-look-at-a-duck-the-same-way/

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Re: Disablement, followed by Super Enablement

2010-08-25 Thread Doug Brewer

John Celio wrote:

Today is my last day at the sign shop.  After 4:30pm (Pacific time), I
will be unemployed.

It won't last long, though: On thursday I start my new job at a
non-profit in Berkeley.  Finally, full time work!

Hopefully this means I'll be able to pay off my credit card debt from
almost two years of part-time work and then upgrade my camera sometime
after the K5 comes out. :D

John


Way to go, John. Good luck with the new position.

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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread Ken Waller

first of all, hi, i'm steve and i'm a bag whore ...


MARK !

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From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com

Subject: Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags



On 2010-08-24 12:44 , Rick Womer wrote:
I'm looking for a light messenger-style shoulder bag to hold my K7 with 
16-45, 10-17, 50-200, and maybe the 50/1.7.  I like my Orion AW, but it 
can hold a lot more than that and is bulky.


Does anyone have a LowePro Midtown or Exchange that would care to comment 
on it?  Courierware has some interesting stuff but is expensive.  The 
Tamrac Evolution and Temba Messenger are too big.


Other alternatives?


first of all, hi, i'm steve and i'm a bag whore ...

with that out of the way, i most often use one of my Mountainsmith lumbar 
packs (Tour, Day or my favorite, the larger and out-of-production Cairn 
II) with shoulder strap to carry a body  two lenses; i swear by the 
Mountainsmith suspension -- weight is mostly on my hips, but i can easily 
swing the pack around like a small messenger bag; these are unpadded, but 
i've usually got the second lens in a neoprene wrap and a light jacket is 
rolled under the body, with the lens up; there's enough material in the 
outer pockets to pad light nocks, and the inner waist area is padded too; 
there is also a Kit Cube i haven't tried which is a padded photo bag that 
fits into the Day or Tour, and MountainSmith has versions of these bags 
specifically for photo use


for casual walk-around times, like a walk to a coffee shop, i also use a 
Crumpler Skivvy, which is minimal and fully padded, but not an ideal shape 
for camera kit - i've got a size small, which doesn't hold much more than 
a camera, mounted lens and extra lens (not big lenses); and i store my 
camera and lenses in a Crumpler Six Million Dollar home, but i don't walk 
around with it; it might work well for your kit


when carrying a laptop as well as a camera, i use an Osprey Torque which 
has almost too much room, and is very well padded (also have an Osprey 
Transit, which i found much too big); i've seen the Osprey Astro  Elroy, 
which look attractive now that i have a smaller 13 laptop


someone recently mentioned an insert for Manhattan DJ bags -- i've got a 
small one of these bags i use for errands and the insert looks 
attractive -- the bags are relatively cheap, minimalist and sturdy



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Re: PESO: street lamp

2010-08-25 Thread Alastair Robertson
thanks for the kind comments people - Montpellier is very nice indeed
- I could imagine living there and enjoying it very much

Alastair

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:51 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Alastair Robertson
 kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9uNibZ82kkXV4kXcK21E7A?feat=directlink

 Excellent shots. Well lit, and nice composition

 Dave

 This one is from Montpellier from the Balcony of the apartment we
 stayed in in the old part of town, just after dark.  There's something
 very mediterranean about pastel-coloured walls and the yellow glow
 from sodium street lamps

 K10D DA16-45 @ 31mm F8 1/20 ISO1600

 Noise reduction done in Lightroom 3 which has had a major upgrade in
 this area compared to Ver 2.

 This is one image of a gallery that includes the shot of Bob posted
 earlier.  Feel free to browse
 http://picasaweb.google.com/kiwibiologist/LanguedocProvence2010?feat=directlink

 Alastair

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RE: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread Bob W
 first of all, hi, i'm steve and i'm a bag whore ...
 

my mother told me to stay away from Stevie Whores. 

Or was it stevedores?

I too have hundreds of camera bags and now I'm looking for suggestions for a
bag for my camera bags. Call it a metabag. It must be enormous and not shout
camera bag bag. I'm thinking of having a custom diaper bag made, 4x2x1
metre, in the form an enormous diaper bag. Nobody would date put their hands
in that. Either that or I'll go green and have one in the same size but made
of hessian. Just so people know, I'll have it stamped with the logo I'm
full of shit.

Bagpuss

 with that out of the way, i most often use one of my Mountainsmith lumbar
 packs (Tour, Day or my favorite, the larger and out-of-production Cairn
II)
 with shoulder strap to carry a body  two lenses; i swear by the
 Mountainsmith suspension -- weight is mostly on my hips, but i can easily
 swing the pack around like a small messenger bag; these are unpadded, but
 i've usually got the second lens in a neoprene wrap and a light jacket is
rolled
 under the body, with the lens up; there's enough material in the outer
 pockets to pad light nocks, and the inner waist area is padded too; there
is
 also a Kit Cube i haven't tried which is a padded photo bag that fits into
the
 Day or Tour, and MountainSmith has versions of these bags specifically for
 photo use
 
 for casual walk-around times, like a walk to a coffee shop, i also use a
 Crumpler Skivvy, which is minimal and fully padded, but not an ideal shape
 for camera kit - i've got a size small, which doesn't hold much more than
a
 camera, mounted lens and extra lens (not big lenses); and i store my
camera
 and lenses in a Crumpler Six Million Dollar home, but i don't walk around
with
 it; it might work well for your kit
 
 when carrying a laptop as well as a camera, i use an Osprey Torque which
has
 almost too much room, and is very well padded (also have an Osprey
Transit,
 which i found much too big); i've seen the Osprey Astro  Elroy, which
look
 attractive now that i have a smaller 13 laptop
 
 someone recently mentioned an insert for Manhattan DJ bags -- i've got a
 small one of these bags i use for errands and the insert looks attractive
-- the
 bags are relatively cheap, minimalist and sturdy
 


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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 August 2010 01:28, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 August 2010 07:45, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool gallery, very familiar territory for me. ;-)

 It is? It's a bit far from Australia, you know?  :-)

I've spent a time walking about Southampton and Portsmouth whilst on
extended stays in Southsea with ex-in-laws.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/IMGK01692.JPG

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Re: GESO: Parkville Days

2010-08-25 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Dave, and also Bob W who made the same pick.
The shot is of course something of an accident. Or maybe I should say it was 
the serendipitous result of an experiment. The Wild West Show wasn't very 
wild, the script involved deserters and ruffians on the Missouri fringes of the 
Southern rebellion (rather than the real West), and the show lasted only 
about 5 minutes. But within that time there was great running around, riding 
around, much gunfire and powder smoke. And it was free and they redid it every 
hour on the hour 4-5 times through the afternoon. I missed most of it the first 
two times, but then managed two shows during which I set up ahead of time in a 
position to try and minimize background electric lines, parking lots full of 
cars, ball field backstops, etc. The first time, some chimping showed that I 
was still getting too much background clutter. So the second time I decided to 
try panning more, with a slow shutter speed, to try blur out the background. I 
was trying for the sharpness to fall on the riders face and pistol, but gauged 
it wrong and wound up with this shot. Which I quite like as well.

stan

On Aug 25, 2010, at 4:13 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Some great shots Stan.
 
 This one i like very much:
 
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p228893311/h25525063#h25525063
 
 Dave
 
 On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I just put together a quick gallery from shots taken the last two days.
 
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p228893311
 
 Background: Parkville Missouri is a small town near me, in the shadow of 
 Kansas City. The powers-that-be in the town have long been aggressive in 
 promoting the town, and there are at least four festivals each year: 4th of 
 July, Parkville Days, Oktoberfest, and Christmas on the River. July 4th and 
 Christmas on the River involve fireworks, all except the Christmas on the 
 River involve a carnival plus a number of vendors and organizations doing 
 their thing. Our church had a tent and I spent some time there this weekend, 
 but also much time wandering and watching and shooting. The site is a park 
 on the banks of the MIssouri river. Click the link for a taste of a hot 
 summer's weekend in a small town in America's heartland . . .
 
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Re: PESO: Squire

2010-08-25 Thread Alastair Robertson
thanks for the comments everyone.  Hadn't really thought about the
length of the ropes but now that you point them out I can see what you
mean.

Nice place to hang out actually

Alastair

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http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/highesttide.html

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Re: PESO: Dining on Broadway

2010-08-25 Thread Alastair Robertson
nice - you've captured the business of the place perfectly - makes me
feel exhausted just looking at it somehow. I might be tempted to add a
little more fill light to give a bit more attention to the people on
the street

Alastair

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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 August 2010 22:56, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? And do
 you feel some of the below?

I have a set of 8 bog stock WÜSTHOF Classics, my most favored of which is the
16cm cook's knife, it does most of what I need to do, like a good prime lens ;-)

I have a nice robust hand made ceramic/stainless steel bodied folding
utility lock knife which I use a fair bit, otherwise that's it.

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Re: Disablement, followed by Super Enablement

2010-08-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Great to hear that you are finding ground for your feets again. Congratulation.

I'm still going in the same direction BTW. So lets drink to each other.

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 Hopefully this means I'll be able to pay off my credit card debt from
 almost two years of part-time work and then upgrade my camera sometime
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Good afternoon

2010-08-25 Thread coll...@brendemuehl.net

I use Pentax.
Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.

A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html

I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.

And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
What's the big news, folks?

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Re: Good afternoon

2010-08-25 Thread Stan Halpin
Hey Collin - long time.

News:
1. Tanya divorced, got some tattoos and other enhancements, remarried, and has 
a bunch of kids. She is also doing well as a photographer of kids clothing.
2. Mark Roberts edited two excellent books, published in 2009 and 2010 through 
Blurb, based on PDMLers' photos from 2008 and 2009 respectively. Many of the 
photos from the 2010 were on exhibit in Chicago for 6-8 weeks this spring and a 
bunch of us were there for the Grand Opening.
3. The rumors are spreading about the forthcoming replacement for the K-7 (to 
be known as the K-5?). List members are grousing about the rumored specs and 
discussing what Pentax should have done instead. Oh wait, that is not new.

stan

On Aug 25, 2010, at 6:53 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

 
 I use Pentax.
 Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
 Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.
 
 A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
 http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html
 
 I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.
 
 And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
 What's the big news, folks?
 
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Good afternoon

2010-08-25 Thread coll...@brendemuehl.net
1. Tanya divorced, got some tattoos and other enhancements, remarried, and
has 
a bunch of kids. She is also doing well as a photographer of kids clothing.
2. Mark Roberts edited two excellent books, published in 2009 and 2010
through 
Blurb, based on PDMLers' photos from 2008 and 2009 respectively. Many of
the 
photos from the 2010 were on exhibit in Chicago for 6-8 weeks this spring
and a 
bunch of us were there for the Grand Opening.
3. The rumors are spreading about the forthcoming replacement for the K-7
(to 
be known as the K-5?). List members are grousing about the rumored specs
and 
discussing what Pentax should have done instead. Oh wait, that is not new.

stan


1.  Was not she the one with the *interesting* portraits a few years ago?
2.  Congrats, Mark!
3.  I recall the phrase of sci-fi author Jerry Pournelle in Byte many years
ago:
Real Soon Now.  The more things change ...

Oh, my son is selling his A200/4.  But he can't find a value for it.
Anyone got any ideas on its value?
He also as a SuperMultiCoated Tak 135/3.5, A50/1.4, and a Super Program.
(His only remaining film camera is his Rollei 2.8E, iirc)


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Re: Good afternoon

2010-08-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Hey, Collin
Welcome back...

The big news was the PDML photo books and the exhibit in Chicago

and the Cormorant is still our mascot...

and we still like puns as well as pictures

annsan

coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:


I use Pentax.
Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.

A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html

I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.

And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
What's the big news, folks?

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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread steve harley

On 2010-08-25 16:56 , Bob W wrote:

first of all, hi, i'm steve and i'm a bag whore ...



my mother told me to stay away from Stevie Whores.

Or was it stevedores?

I too have hundreds of camera bags and now I'm looking for suggestions for a
bag for my camera bags.


well, most of my bags aren't camera bags per se, but the bag i put my 
least needed bags into is a giant Dana Design rolling duffel; this is 
probably it, not sure since mine came from a thrift store:


http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/4372,80418_Dana-Design-SPO-Travel-Wheeled-Duffel-Bag.html

if that's too big, i'd suggest the largest size of Timbuk2 (or other 
brand) classic (minimalist design) courier bag; i have one in size 
large that is probably capable of holding a chubby toddler, and there's 
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Re: PESO: Dining on Broadway

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks.  It is always an interesting place, but even more so now that
they have blocked off traffic and made Times Square (and Herald
Square) a pedestrian mall, with tables and chairs.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Alastair Robertson
kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote:
 nice - you've captured the business of the place perfectly - makes me
 feel exhausted just looking at it somehow. I might be tempted to add a
 little more fill light to give a bit more attention to the people on
 the street

 Alastair

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070283

 Comments. Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are All Welcome.

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GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-25 Thread paul stenquist
The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: Good afternoon

2010-08-25 Thread paul stenquist
Hi Collin,

Good to see your name here.

Nothing is new. The Cubs still suck:-).

Paul

On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:53 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:

 
 I use Pentax.
 Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
 Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.
 
 A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
 http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html
 
 I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.
 
 And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
 What's the big news, folks?
 
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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-25 Thread Peter Loveday



For the gear you're listing, a Think Tank Photo Retrospective 10
would do great.


Agreed, I would look into the Think Tank range, very well thought out bags 
that don't look like camera bags.


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OT - Chinese Prize Winning Photograph Accused Of Being Misleading

2010-08-25 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV

Below is a link to a blog post on the website EastSouthWestNorth. It is
a compilation of translated news articles from China about the caption
on a prize-winning photograph, and whether it was misleading or not.
The photo is captioned Holding the Body for Ransom, and depicts a
fishing boat towing a drowned college student near the shore.

The English is a little hard to read, but the collection of articles
gives a relatively neutral point of view, the point of view of the
photographer, and the point of view of the guy in the boat. It also
shows additional photographs that give context to the original image.

I thought it was really interesting reading, and wanted to pass it on.

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20100820_1.htm

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RE: Good afternoon

2010-08-25 Thread John Coyle
Welcome back Collin!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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I use Pentax.
Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.

A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html

I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.

And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
What's the big news, folks?

Collin


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