PESO: Whale's Tale
We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Whale's Tale
We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 very nice - lucky to get that one. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whale's Tale
Thanks. I missed some of the best breaches, but I managed to get a few decent snaps: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996366 Dan On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 very nice - lucky to get that one. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Whale's Tale
That's a nice collection. I went whale-watching off Cape Town years ago. We weren't allowed to get close enough even with a 400mm lens for me to get shots as nice as that, and the whales weren't breaching in any case. B Thanks. I missed some of the best breaches, but I managed to get a few decent snaps: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996366 Dan On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 very nice - lucky to get that one. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I guess that was a milestone
From: William Robb Anyway, the point you seemed to miss in your need to find some way to make the other person wrong was that a Costco employee is very unlikely to check EXIF data in an attempt to determine ownership. Uh no. I said in my first response I thought it was probably because of a copyright notice on the image, but IIRC Larry said whoever he talked to at Costco said it was something else. However, if you're determined to take offense where none is offered, don't let me stand in your way. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3423 - Release Date: 02/04/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Subway Jesus
I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
that's really freaky. This may be the next Shroud of Turin. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 07:19:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail ListPDML@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Subway Jesus I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: that's really freaky. This may be the next Shroud of Turin. His face (as portrayed in the photo) really reminded me of that image. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whale's Tale
Cool! A little heavy on the blue perhaps. But a nice catch. Paul On Feb 5, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
Santa Monica Jesus is vacationing in Toronto: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=800895 On Feb 5, 2011, at 7:19 AM, frank theriault wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Subway Jesus
I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. he ought to come to London - they're building a line especially for him: http://www.crossrail.co.uk/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday on ebay
All is forgiven my child..hallelujah!! Jack --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: FS Friday on ebay To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 8:50 PM Now you know I'm totally back to Pentax... http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS-300D-Digital-Rebel-w-18-55mm-kit-Lens-used-/190497284565?pt=Digital_Camerashash=item2c5a85e1d5 ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whale's Tale
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. Wow! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whale's Tale
Great catch, Dan! Water is very dark and, of course, so the whale's body. Does, however, add to the contrast and enhance the spray. Jack --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Whale's Tale To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 1:41 AM We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
Breaking in a new shroud? Terrific, Frank! Jack --- On Sat, 2/5/11, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Subway Jesus To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 4:19 AM I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
frank theriault wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html I notice he's wearing the Shroud of Toron (to). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Which gets you half-way there. Once the monitor is calibrated you need to make a printer profile for the paper you're using so the prints will come out looking like what you see on your calibrated monitor. icc printer profiless are available for printing all the Epson premium papers on the R2400 as well as a variety of other popular papers. In my experience, which is considerable in this area, the profiles are very good. Paul I have the current icc profiles for the Epson papers installed on the computer, so i should be good there. Dave - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3421 - Release Date: 02/03/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Hi David, The iMac 21.5 has a monitor similar to my old (not very old) imac 24. To get a match to that 2400 printer. You'll probably end up with the brightness turned all the way down, particularly if you're working in dim light. There are expensive calibration devices that can help you determine that. But you can also go with a bargain calibration device, like the ColorVision Spyder2 Express that I use. You do need to calibrate at least for color accuracy. The Spyder2 does a good job on that. I think it sells for about $70. I see BH now has a Spyder3 Express. I assume that's somewhat of an upgrade. It sells for about $100. Once your monitor is accurate in terms of color balance, saturation and white point (Spyder2 can handle all that quite well), you'll just have to deal with brightness. A bit of trial and error works best here. Once you get a print that you consider perfect, simply tweak the monitor brightness adjustment to match. As I said, I think you'll find that you have to turn it all the way down, or almost all the way down. You can spend more money and try to dial the monitor in more precisely before you ever make a print, but I think you'll find some manual tweaking will still be needed. The printer and monitor are two different animals, and coupled with the operator's subjective judgement, that means that it's all somewhat imprecise science. But a decent calibration tool will ensure that you're close on color balance and saturation. That's almost impossible to achieve manually. Paul I have the older version, the Spyder I i bought from Mark a number of years ago. I found a small up grade a while back. Do you think the older Spyder I will work on today's computers. I see our local pusher has the Spyder III express for around $179 Canadian, maybe an upgrade should be in order.??? Dave On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I finally got around to hooking up my Epson 2400. I needed to clean the heads so all are fine now. I do not have my iMac calibrated but i wanted to see how it would print out and match the screen. Test print is coming out darker than the screen by a fair amount using LR 3 to adjust and print. If i lower the brightness of the screen by 5-6 clicks i get on screen what the print looks like. Is this a classic case of get the dam monitor calibrated or maybe a print setting. ?? I have checked those several times and cannot see any change it what i had been doing on the P C. No colour adjustment set, proper paper specs set etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
Good catch there Frank Dave On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:19 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whale's Tale
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Thats a whale of a tale there Dan Dave Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: KMP Page
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Who mentioned that Bojidar's site hasn't recently updated? It seems to have just been updated... http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/ -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc I remember when he moved over o Canon he mentioned he would keep the pages going. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
On 2011-02-05 7:50, Paul Stenquist wrote: Santa Monica Jesus is vacationing in Toronto: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=800895 That guy looks as much like an early 1970s Charlie Manson as he does an old painting of Jesus. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
frank theriault wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank I'm not sure enjoy is the right word - but I see what you mean. On my monitor (and I fixed it, guys) the face is a bit dark but the impact is there. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
Santa Monica Rasputin you mean. On 2/5/2011 7:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Santa Monica Jesus is vacationing in Toronto: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=800895 On Feb 5, 2011, at 7:19 AM, frank theriault wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Santa Monica Rasputin you mean. Him too. All converging in Toronto. On 2/5/2011 7:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Santa Monica Jesus is vacationing in Toronto: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=800895 On Feb 5, 2011, at 7:19 AM, frank theriault wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:17 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I have the older version, the Spyder I i bought from Mark a number of years ago. I found a small up grade a while back. Do you think the older Spyder I will work on today's computers. I see our local pusher has the Spyder III express for around $179 Canadian, maybe an upgrade should be in order.??? I'm using the Eye One Display 2 unit I bought in 2004, upgraded the software to the latest revision for Mac OS X v10.6, and it seems to work very well still. I don't know about the Spyders. I'd heard all sorts of variable reports about them. Only thing to do is to try it. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5
Bob, if you haven't been inundated enough yet, here's a timely article at Pentaxforums: Absurdly simple DIY K-x remote timer using MP3 player http://goo.gl/YdwAc Ignore the MP3 player part, create the sound file in WAV format and play it through the audio out from your PC. This is a nice hack because it just needs a pair of cheap IR LEDs and a common audio cord. -bmw On 11-02-04 4:30 PM, Robert Blakely wrote: Thanks all you guys! I'm going to give all these a try! Bob... - I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings. -- Humphrey Bogart, The Big Sleep -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:56 PM On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 18:56:22 +, you wrote: I wonder ... can a PDA be programmed as a remote for it? And can that remote then be set on a timer function? NoviRemote lets your PDA control just about anything http://www.novii.tv/palm/classic/ Herre are the codes it needs for Pentax: http://www.robertstech.com/materials/pentaxir.zip Seems to be available only for the Palm O.S. though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:17 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Hi David, The iMac 21.5 has a monitor similar to my old (not very old) imac 24. To get a match to that 2400 printer. You'll probably end up with the brightness turned all the way down, particularly if you're working in dim light. There are expensive calibration devices that can help you determine that. But you can also go with a bargain calibration device, like the ColorVision Spyder2 Express that I use. You do need to calibrate at least for color accuracy. The Spyder2 does a good job on that. I think it sells for about $70. I see BH now has a Spyder3 Express. I assume that's somewhat of an upgrade. It sells for about $100. Once your monitor is accurate in terms of color balance, saturation and white point (Spyder2 can handle all that quite well), you'll just have to deal with brightness. A bit of trial and error works best here. Once you get a print that you consider perfect, simply tweak the monitor brightness adjustment to match. As I said, I think you'll find that you have to turn it all the way down, or almost all the way down. You can spend more money and try to dial the monitor in more precisely before you ever make a print, but I think you'll find some manual tweaking will still be needed. The printer and monitor are two different animals, and coupled with the operator's subjective judgement, that means that it's all somewhat imprecise science. But a decent calibration tool will ensure that you're close on color balance and saturation. That's almost impossible to achieve manually. Paul I have the older version, the Spyder I i bought from Mark a number of years ago. I found a small up grade a while back. Do you think the older Spyder I will work on today's computers. I see our local pusher has the Spyder III express for around $179 Canadian, maybe an upgrade should be in order.??? Try it. If the software is compatible with your operating system, the Spyder 1 should work at least as well as it did on your previous computer. As I said before, calibration can be very precise in regard to making your monitor meet a standard, but it's imprecise in terms of making your monitor and your printer agree to your satisfaction. You'll know you have it right when you feel the image on your screen is optimal, and the image coming out of your printer is both very similar and, at least to your eyes, the best that it can be. I'm sure that is possible working with PhotoShop or lightroom and a Spyder2 on a Mac. Not certain about the earlier Spyder. But try it. If I had an unlimited budget and was shopping for a new calibration tool, I might not choose a Spyder, but I don't have an unlimited budget, and my Spyder2 is working. Drycreekphoto has some worthwhile reviews. They do say that the Spyder2 is much better than the original version. http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/monitor_calibration_tools.htm Paul Dave On Feb 4, 2011, at 11:01 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I finally got around to hooking up my Epson 2400. I needed to clean the heads so all are fine now. I do not have my iMac calibrated but i wanted to see how it would print out and match the screen. Test print is coming out darker than the screen by a fair amount using LR 3 to adjust and print. If i lower the brightness of the screen by 5-6 clicks i get on screen what the print looks like. Is this a classic case of get the dam monitor calibrated or maybe a print setting. ?? I have checked those several times and cannot see any change it what i had been doing on the P C. No colour adjustment set, proper paper specs set etc. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Subway Jesus
Santa Monica Jesus is vacationing in Toronto: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=800895 That guy looks as much like an early 1970s Charlie Manson as he does an old painting of Jesus. ...and all the lousy little poets coming round tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson and the white man dancin' Give me back the Berlin wall Give me Stalin and St Paul Give me Christ or give me Hiroshima Laughin' Lenny of Montreal -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Subway Jesus
I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html I notice he's wearing the Shroud of Toron (to). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com shame on you for such a lousy pun! I was expecting the standard to be a whole mess higher... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
Wow, this is seriously good. I would try to cop it differently - may be remove the partial emblem at left? --Sasha On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:19 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Whale's Tale
What Paul said - definitely heavy on the blue - did you set the white point or is this straight out of the camera ? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO: Whale's Tale Cool! A little heavy on the blue perhaps. But a nice catch. Paul On Feb 5, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus
And here I thought Jesus was a minority female ! ; + ] Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Subway Jesus I was quite surprised at the resemblance to popular images of Him when I got home and blew it up on the computer screen. More than surprised, I was taken aback: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:17 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I have the older version, the Spyder I i bought from Mark a number of years ago. I found a small up grade a while back. Do you think the older Spyder I will work on today's computers. I see our local pusher has the Spyder III express for around $179 Canadian, maybe an upgrade should be in order.??? I'm using the Eye One Display 2 unit I bought in 2004, upgraded the software to the latest revision for Mac OS X v10.6, and it seems to work very well still. I don't know about the Spyders. I'd heard all sorts of variable reports about them. Only thing to do is to try it. My $0.02 ... Eye One is the preferred system for Macs ... most accurate, easiest to use, etc. Colormunki or Spyder III are preferred for PC. The Eye One is apparently not as easy to use with a PC as it is on the Mac. Reading the reviews, Colormunki apparently has an edge in ease of use for the PC, while Spyder III provides marginally better results if you can figure out the instructions. Spyder III is better than Spyder II, which in turn is better than Spyder I, which is in turn better than not having any calibration whatsoever. I bought the SpyderPro + PrintFIX back in 2004 while I was overseas. That was the unit I received that the software CD did not have the S/N label and wouldn't install without the S/N. I couldn't use it until I had been round and round between BH and ColorVision - with both claiming the other was responsible for providing me with the necessary S/N. I did finally receive the S/N I needed from ColorVision relayed to me by BH, but only after a very frustrating delay. PrintFIX only supported a limited array of printers, and the printer I had was not one of them. I still have the SpyderPro and have not upgraded to a newer version. === At school, they have the complete Eye One system for their Macs. I don't know how easy it is to use to calibrate a monitor because I've never needed to calibrate one. It's already done and the settings are locked down. Using the Eye One to create custom printer profiles is not difficult once you figure out a few quirks. The way the school's computers and printers are configured, you MUST have those custom printer profiles. The profiles from Epson and/or paper venders don't work well enough on the school's equipment. You cannot get a print that looks anything like what you see on the monitor if you use them. You're just wasting paper. I don't know why. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3423 - Release Date: 02/04/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
From: Paul Stenquist I'm sure that is possible working with PhotoShop or lightroom and a Spyder2 on a Mac. Not certain about the earlier Spyder. But try it. If I had an unlimited budget and was shopping for a new calibration tool, I might not choose a Spyder, but I don't have an unlimited budget, and my Spyder2 is working. Drycreekphoto has some worthwhile reviews. They do say that the Spyder2 is much better than the original version. Of course it is, since the original version is all I have. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3423 - Release Date: 02/04/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
David J Brooks wrote: I have the older version, the Spyder I i bought from Mark a number of years ago. I found a small up grade a while back. Do you think the older Spyder I will work on today's computers. I see our local pusher has the Spyder III express for around $179 Canadian, maybe an upgrade should be in order.??? You should be able to get a free upgrade to the latest software for the Spyder I. Check the ColorVision web site. Of course, Version II hardware was an improvement and I would expect version III to be better still. But I'd try getting the latest software for your Spyder I first and seeing if that meets your needs. Fanatic perfectionists will get a megabuck high-end monitor, the expensive calibration/profiling equipment, re-profile every day and make their own custom printer/paper ICC profiles. Somewhere between that and a completely non-color-managed workflow will be a compromise that works best for you. Everyone has a different needs and standards - when you determine what yours are don't let anyone talk you out of them :) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Snowdrops
Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: You should be able to get a free upgrade to the latest software for the Spyder I. Check the ColorVision web site. As a data point, I have a Spyder I, and the software does work on my dual G5 running OS 10.5. It does a decent job of calibrating my screen. Maybe something newer would work better, but I'd rather not throw money at that problem for a while. A new computer is a much bigger priority. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
I like that shot a lot. Nice. -- Walt On 2/5/2011 2:23 PM, Toine wrote: Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
Yes! Very nice impression of the Spring renewal pushing its way up through last year's winter killed grasses. Jack --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: PESO: Snowdrops To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 12:23 PM Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
Very Pretty. I'm ready for spring. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes! Very nice impression of the Spring renewal pushing its way up through last year's winter killed grasses. Jack --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: PESO: Snowdrops To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 12:23 PM Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
Ditto. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -Original Message- From: Walter Gilbert [mailto:ldott...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2011 03:50 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Re: PESO: Snowdrops I like that shot a lot. Nice. -- Walt On 2/5/2011 2:23 PM, Toine wrote: Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Lovely! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
frank theriault wrote: Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). To get more detail in Jesus' face lighten just that and bump contrast a bit - I think would work... but it isn't greatly important... I prefer the original crop as I think the partial window balances the TTC logo as they are both partial and both dark. really spooky shot :-) I like it ann Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
Excellent! Won't be seeing those here for at least five weeks. And at that, we'll need some warm weather and a big thaw. Paul On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Toine wrote: Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
Missed the original post. Excellent capture, made me smile. Viewed the original capture later and it's difficult to choose. Toine On 5 February 2011 22:11, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote: As a data point, I have a Spyder I, and the software does work on my dual G5 running OS 10.5. It does a decent job of calibrating my screen. Maybe something newer would work better, but I'd rather not throw money at that problem for a while. A new computer is a much bigger priority. I agree. PowerPC G5s are way behind the curve now. A Mac Mini 2.66 Ghz is 10x the performance, 1/3 the price, 1/10 the space and power consumption... ! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mountain Lion (no rusty barbed wire in sight)
On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:38 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4149215384/ Hope I haven't shared this one before. If you had, I would have hated you long before. Great job making use of the limitations of TTV -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
...If I may butt in with a related question... what about room lighting? I'm trying to get my own system color-managed, but I've seen conflicting answers... for calibrating the monitor, should my room be illuminated to a reasonable reading level, or as dark as possible as long as you can still operate the controls on your monitor (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=64!) ..? Then, once we're all calibrated editing is underway, how should the room be lit? The same way as for calibrating? I'm guessing that the main goal would be consistency in the ambient light... and that it be consistently daylight-balanced? What about daytime vs nighttime editing...? Thanks... :) -c On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:01 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I finally got around to hooking up my Epson 2400. I needed to clean the heads so all are fine now. I do not have my iMac calibrated but i wanted to see how it would print out and match the screen. Test print is coming out darker than the screen by a fair amount using LR 3 to adjust and print. If i lower the brightness of the screen by 5-6 clicks i get on screen what the print looks like. Is this a classic case of get the dam monitor calibrated or maybe a print setting. ?? I have checked those several times and cannot see any change it what i had been doing on the P C. No colour adjustment set, proper paper specs set etc. Yes, it's a get the darn monitor calibrated moment. ;-) 1- Set room illumination to a reasonable reading level. 2- Calibrate and profile the display. * 3- check the adjustments you've made on screen using the Lights Out mode with a *white* fill. Once it looks right, you're ready to print. * Note that in some circumstances and with some displays, it's hard to get the brightness down to the right level. Particularly with today's very bright, very contrasty LCD displays. If you do all this and the prints are still a little dark, raise the room illumination so that your eye when adjusting the images on screen sees them a little darker. My display calibration targets using the Eye One Display 2 colorimeter and its software application are 120 luminance, 1.8 gamma and 5500K white point. I find this works beautifully in my normal room illumination with color managed output to the R2400. You can choose other targets if you prefer, what's important is that you choose your targets, calibrate and then have a working reference for your eyes that does the right thing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - oh no, more snow
A few pics shot this afternoon in downtown Birmingham, Michigan. When I started shooting, it was snowing so hard the camera kept trying to lock focus on the snow rather than the subject. It lightened up a bit later, but my camera (k-5) and lens (DA*60-250) were soaked. They didn't mind. All at ISO 400, f4 to f5.6, various shutter speeds. You'll notice I shot one couple coming and going on Old Woodard, about a half hour apart. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996427 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
Christine Nielsen wrote: ...If I may butt in with a related question... what about room lighting? I'm trying to get my own system color-managed, but I've seen conflicting answers... for calibrating the monitor, should my room be illuminated to a reasonable reading level, or as dark as possible as long as you can still operate the controls on your monitor (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=64!) ..? Many calibration/profiling systems allow you to compensate for ambient room light. It's a lot of extra work and I don't bother with it (hence the suggestion to perform calibration and profiling with minimal lighting room light can sneak in around the edges of your colorimeter and throw off its readings). Then, once we're all calibrated editing is underway, how should the room be lit? The same way as for calibrating? I'm guessing that the main goal would be consistency in the ambient light... and that it be consistently daylight-balanced? What about daytime vs nighttime editing...? The answer to that depends on that kind of output you're intending for an image. If you are preparing an image for the web you should just go with standard room/office lighting because that's how your viewers will be seeing things. When preparing for print making I prefer to go with very subdued lighting. For the truly fastidious, viewing of the prints themselves can be done in a dedicated Viewing Station: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/12/the-viewing-sta.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
I have 5500 K fluorescent ceiling lights in my studio/office. I usually calibrate with them on, then work with them on. This makes it consistent, day or night. However, I have at times calibrated with all the lights off. That works fine as well, although I have to turn on the overhead lights to inspect the print. Consistency is the goal here. Paul On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: ...If I may butt in with a related question... what about room lighting? I'm trying to get my own system color-managed, but I've seen conflicting answers... for calibrating the monitor, should my room be illuminated to a reasonable reading level, or as dark as possible as long as you can still operate the controls on your monitor (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=64!) ..? Then, once we're all calibrated editing is underway, how should the room be lit? The same way as for calibrating? I'm guessing that the main goal would be consistency in the ambient light... and that it be consistently daylight-balanced? What about daytime vs nighttime editing...? Thanks... :) -c On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:01 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I finally got around to hooking up my Epson 2400. I needed to clean the heads so all are fine now. I do not have my iMac calibrated but i wanted to see how it would print out and match the screen. Test print is coming out darker than the screen by a fair amount using LR 3 to adjust and print. If i lower the brightness of the screen by 5-6 clicks i get on screen what the print looks like. Is this a classic case of get the dam monitor calibrated or maybe a print setting. ?? I have checked those several times and cannot see any change it what i had been doing on the P C. No colour adjustment set, proper paper specs set etc. Yes, it's a get the darn monitor calibrated moment. ;-) 1- Set room illumination to a reasonable reading level. 2- Calibrate and profile the display. * 3- check the adjustments you've made on screen using the Lights Out mode with a *white* fill. Once it looks right, you're ready to print. * Note that in some circumstances and with some displays, it's hard to get the brightness down to the right level. Particularly with today's very bright, very contrasty LCD displays. If you do all this and the prints are still a little dark, raise the room illumination so that your eye when adjusting the images on screen sees them a little darker. My display calibration targets using the Eye One Display 2 colorimeter and its software application are 120 luminance, 1.8 gamma and 5500K white point. I find this works beautifully in my normal room illumination with color managed output to the R2400. You can choose other targets if you prefer, what's important is that you choose your targets, calibrate and then have a working reference for your eyes that does the right thing. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - oh no, more snow
Paul Stenquist wrote: A few pics shot this afternoon in downtown Birmingham, Michigan. When I started shooting, it was snowing so hard the camera kept trying to lock focus on the snow rather than the subject. It lightened up a bit later, but my camera (k-5) and lens (DA*60-250) were soaked. They didn't mind. All at ISO 400, f4 to f5.6, various shutter speeds. You'll notice I shot one couple coming and going on Old Woodard, about a half hour apart. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996427 My faves of this fun set - the blurry wheel and the guy in the yellow jacket All we got today was rain (so far) but some snow was predicted. More to come on Tuesday _they_ say. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
That's a nice shot, and based on the weather around here, spring needs it's head examined. On 2/5/2011 3:23 PM, Toine wrote: Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - oh no, more snow
I'm surprised that the K-5's sensitivity grain control doesn't, also, get rid of that snow? ;) Planning on a K-5 soon! YES! Waiting for a 400+ serial number. Jack --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: GESO - oh no, more snow To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 2:21 PM A few pics shot this afternoon in downtown Birmingham, Michigan. When I started shooting, it was snowing so hard the camera kept trying to lock focus on the snow rather than the subject. It lightened up a bit later, but my camera (k-5) and lens (DA*60-250) were soaked. They didn't mind. All at ISO 400, f4 to f5.6, various shutter speeds. You'll notice I shot one couple coming and going on Old Woodard, about a half hour apart. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996427 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Screen brightness or print problem
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: ...If I may butt in with a related question... what about room lighting? I'm trying to get my own system color-managed, but I've seen conflicting answers... for calibrating the monitor, should my room be illuminated to a reasonable reading level, or as dark as possible as long as you can still operate the controls on your monitor (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=64!) ..? Then, once we're all calibrated editing is underway, how should the room be lit? The same way as for calibrating? I'm guessing that the main goal would be consistency in the ambient light... and that it be consistently daylight-balanced? What about daytime vs nighttime editing...? The crux of the matter is your eyes. All the calibration in the world does no good at all if your eyes are working in the wrong environment. Quoting from my own article Color Management Can Be Simple – ::: There are three calibration target parameters of importance: - brightness or luminance :: the brightness of the display - gamma :: the contrast curve you want to display to follow, normally 2.2 or 1.8. - white point :: what color temperature is considered white. Sunlight is more blue than indoor room light, so white in sunlight has a higher color temperature than white in an indoor space illuminated by warm- white tungsten or flourescent bulbs. Display brightness has to be matched to reasonable ambient light in your workspace for best results ... this is very important as it affects how your eyes see color and brightness. *Reasonable ambient* light means normal reading/working illumination without direct sunlight or other high intensity light sources falling on the monitor, not a black cave. E.g.: My work room light is provided by a pair of 60W equivalent bulbs in a soft overhead light, supplemented by light filtering in around mostly closed blinds during daylight hours. A meter reading off the wall beside my desk shows ISO 100 @ f/4 @ 1/5 second, just to give you an idea how bright it is. I shade the windows tightly during the day to minimize the amount of sunlight coming in so the room light is stable day and night. For this environment with an Apple Cinema Display 23 display, my targets for calibration are 120 cdM^2 luminance, 1.8 gamma, and white point of 5500K. The current industry standard settings would be cooler white and higher contrast: 120 luminance, 2.2 gamma and 6500K white point are also reasonable. (I prefer the warmer white and softer gamma as it matches my printing and exhibition needs more closely.) ::: I've had thousands of hits on that article and some well-known experts in the field have vetted that it is exactly right, what they recommend and set up in their own labs. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Protesting global warming
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: my newest invention :-)
http://www.pmcaregivers.com/images/walker%20snow%20plow.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - oh no, more snow
Those are fun, Paul. Good snowflakes. Yep, it's great to have a weather sealed body and lens! Love that! Sure wish the FA 50mm f1.4 was weather sealed--one of the reasons I want the DA* 55mm. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:21 PM Subject: GESO - oh no, more snow A few pics shot this afternoon in downtown Birmingham, Michigan. When I started shooting, it was snowing so hard the camera kept trying to lock focus on the snow rather than the subject. It lightened up a bit later, but my camera (k-5) and lens (DA*60-250) were soaked. They didn't mind. All at ISO 400, f4 to f5.6, various shutter speeds. You'll notice I shot one couple coming and going on Old Woodard, about a half hour apart. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996427 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
I prefer the original. The second version looks as though it's been messed with, and the second crop loses a lot of balance in the composition. B Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: my newest invention :-)
Har! On Feb 5, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://www.pmcaregivers.com/images/walker%20snow%20plow.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Snowdrops
I'm so jealous, Toine! A pretty harbinger for sure! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 2:23 PM Subject: PESO: Snowdrops Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Whale's Tale
Gosh, these are cool, Dan. I would love to see whales. I took a peek at the whole set--pretty cool. I know most of the shots have splash in them, but I actually like best the lone tail that's way upright with the island in the background. I know the tail is very centered, but I still like the shot best. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:41 AM Subject: PESO: Whale's Tale We are on vacation on Maui. Here is an image from our Whale Watch sail on Wednesday: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12556637 Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are, as usual, welcomed. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - oh no, more snow
Good set. The snowflakes are a great effect in these kinds of shots. My fav is the shoveling guy. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A few pics shot this afternoon in downtown Birmingham, Michigan. When I started shooting, it was snowing so hard the camera kept trying to lock focus on the snow rather than the subject. It lightened up a bit later, but my camera (k-5) and lens (DA*60-250) were soaked. They didn't mind. All at ISO 400, f4 to f5.6, various shutter speeds. You'll notice I shot one couple coming and going on Old Woodard, about a half hour apart. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=996427 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: my newest invention :-)
That's it. Collin wins winter. Epic, both the shot and the guy with the plow. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://www.pmcaregivers.com/images/walker%20snow%20plow.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
Something really unsettling about this, Frank--not your skills as a photographer, just the subject.Normally, unsettling subject matter doesn't bother me, but I can't explain why the subject here has the effect. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2 Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
It's a strong and unsettling image, Christine. I believe the technical term is spooky, On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Something really unsettling about this, Frank--not your skills as a photographer, just the subject. Normally, unsettling subject matter doesn't bother me, but I can't explain why the subject here has the effect. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2 Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mountain Lion (no rusty barbed wire in sight)
That's an intriguing shot, Darren. Looks like the mountain has been newly tiled :-). I'm really not sure what I'm looking at. I see a lion for sure, but I don't understand the background. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: PESO: Mountain Lion (no rusty barbed wire in sight) http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4149215384/ Hope I haven't shared this one before. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2
Agreed, but I've been trying to figure out why this is more unsettling for me than I would expect. It might be because it's both spooky and sad. Anyway . . . Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2 It's a strong and unsettling image, Christine. I believe the technical term is spooky, On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Something really unsettling about this, Frank--not your skills as a photographer, just the subject. Normally, unsettling subject matter doesn't bother me, but I can't explain why the subject here has the effect. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:11 PM Subject: PESO - Subway Jesus - Take 2 Taking Ann's suggestion, I lightened Jesus' face a bit. Taking Sasha's suggestion, I recropped - not to take out the partial TTC logo on the left, but to take out the partial window on the right. I also left in the original tilt. I de-noised the interior as best I could, and lowered the contrast a bit (so as to get maybe a teensy bit more detail in Jesus' face). Here's the new one: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus-take-2.html Here's the original: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/02/subway-jesus.html Any thoughts, preferences or strong feelings one way or the other? Thanks. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: my newest invention :-)
What Steve said! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:52 PM Subject: Re: OT: my newest invention :-) That's it. Collin wins winter. Epic, both the shot and the guy with the plow. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://www.pmcaregivers.com/images/walker%20snow%20plow.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Double peso - something slightly different
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/ My daughter asked me to take some photos of her. I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing. Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work. Thanks, --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double peso - something slightly different
On Feb 5, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/ The first shot is excellent! Amazing tonality, good composition, great texture. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/ The second one is a good shot, but isn't nearly so powerful for me, though it's better larger. You could try cropping the left side and the bottom just to the left, and below, the visible so that her face isn't so much on the center line. My daughter asked me to take some photos of her. I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing. She definitely did. Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work. You ought to collaborate with her more often. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Double peso - something slightly different
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/ My daughter asked me to take some photos of her. I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing. Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work. Thanks, --Sasha the first is very strong indeed, and slightly overpowering. The 2nd is also very good, but suffers by comparison with the first. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Protesting global warming
LOL.. J --- On Sat, 2/5/11, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net Subject: Protesting global warming To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 3:36 PM http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double peso - something slightly different
The first shot is superb. Love the way the light and shadow play here as well as the grittiness of the ubjct. The second is interesting. Paul On Feb 5, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/ My daughter asked me to take some photos of her. I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing. Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work. Thanks, --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to disagree on the multiple centers of interest, and here's why. The dark areas form a nice triangle in the composition. If you draw lines bisecting the triangle's angles, they overlap directly on the woman in the middle. To me, center of interest does not mean your eye locks on one spot, and one spot only. It should be directed to explore the frame, but keep coming back to one thing. The hooded woman does add an element of mystery/mood. I think this is a terrific shot and is one I would be proud to have taken. Thanks, Darren! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Knox College, University of Toronto
The University of Toronto is Canada's largest. Along with the university proper, it's composed of several smaller colleges (most if not all of them church colleges, or at least former church colleges). Knox College is (obviously) the Presbyterian college at U of T. The church colleges feature lovely older architecture. Knox College is no exception: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/knox-college-university-of-toronto.html This one's specifically for Christine, as Subway Jesus bothered her a bit. Hopefully this is a bit more comfortable, Christine. ;-) Hope you all enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Inot the Mist
I didn't analyze it quite so deeply, but after reading Darren's elucidation, I have to agree. My first impression upon looking at it was that it's a very arresting shot. I've definitely seen worse ones -- especially taken by myself. I would definitely consider it a keeper. -- Walt On 2/5/2011 8:15 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Darren Addypixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to disagree on the multiple centers of interest, and here's why. The dark areas form a nice triangle in the composition. If you draw lines bisecting the triangle's angles, they overlap directly on the woman in the middle. To me, center of interest does not mean your eye locks on one spot, and one spot only. It should be directed to explore the frame, but keep coming back to one thing. The hooded woman does add an element of mystery/mood. I think this is a terrific shot and is one I would be proud to have taken. Thanks, Darren! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Knox College, University of Toronto
Another very nice shot, Frank! I love the geometry of it, as well as the isolated blues amid the greys. I wish you'd stick to black and white and leave the color stuff to those of us for whom it's a primary focus, dammit. -- Walt On 2/5/2011 8:19 PM, frank theriault wrote: The University of Toronto is Canada's largest. Along with the university proper, it's composed of several smaller colleges (most if not all of them church colleges, or at least former church colleges). Knox College is (obviously) the Presbyterian college at U of T. The church colleges feature lovely older architecture. Knox College is no exception: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/knox-college-university-of-toronto.html This one's specifically for Christine, as Subway Jesus bothered her a bit. Hopefully this is a bit more comfortable, Christine. ;-) Hope you all enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whooper swans
Just seeing this now... lovely and lucky you to have them so near :) ann AlunFoto wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/whooper-swans.html The Eurasian counterpart to the North American Trumpeter Swan. It winters in Southern Norway if it can find places where there is open freshwater throughout the winter. There's one such place about an hour's drive from my home. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Knox College, University of Toronto
two thumbs up :-) Christine will like it I'm sure ann frank theriault wrote: The University of Toronto is Canada's largest. Along with the university proper, it's composed of several smaller colleges (most if not all of them church colleges, or at least former church colleges). Knox College is (obviously) the Presbyterian college at U of T. The church colleges feature lovely older architecture. Knox College is no exception: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/knox-college-university-of-toronto.html This one's specifically for Christine, as Subway Jesus bothered her a bit. Hopefully this is a bit more comfortable, Christine. ;-) Hope you all enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
mini-GESO: Swimming Fantail
We have a juvenile fantail hanging about in our garden at the moment, and today's the first time I've seen him have a swim. It's been 36 degrees today so I just about joined him. (Or her... I can't tell the difference.) http://www.multi.net.nz/fantail-swim/ These little guys can be very hard to photograph as they don't stay still for long, but they are fairly tame and they'll let you get pretty close. K10D, FA 200mm f/2.8, just resized and a crappy sharpen filter as I can't be bothered doing anything in this heat. I'd have loved a faster shutter speed for the second pic but it probably would have been out of focus anyway. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Knox College, University of Toronto
Wow! That's lovely. Definitely more comfortable. Sweet of you. I love the tones and lines in this. Composition is excellent. Thanks, Frank. Much appreciated. Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:19 PM Subject: PESO - Knox College, University of Toronto The University of Toronto is Canada's largest. Along with the university proper, it's composed of several smaller colleges (most if not all of them church colleges, or at least former church colleges). Knox College is (obviously) the Presbyterian college at U of T. The church colleges feature lovely older architecture. Knox College is no exception: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/knox-college-university-of-toronto.html This one's specifically for Christine, as Subway Jesus bothered her a bit. Hopefully this is a bit more comfortable, Christine. ;-) Hope you all enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Double peso - something slightly different
The first is definitely an in your face shot. :-) Very dramatic and powerful. I'm intrigued: why did your daughter dress-up as she did? Is she in a play or something? Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:03 PM Subject: Double peso - something slightly different http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417967058/lightbox/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5417990214/lightbox/ My daughter asked me to take some photos of her. I appears she had something in mind and spent quite some time preparing. Tell us what you think, what works for you and what fails to work. Thanks, --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Protesting global warming
Funny! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Protesting global warming http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW Week 5
Nothing great. Just some end punctuation to the week of snow we've had. Cheers, Christine http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Snowdrops
Lovely! Dan On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Spring is knocking on my door: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/159-snowdrops K20D SMC F28/2.8 (which is a little gem) Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Knox College, University of Toronto
I really like the geometry and the viewpoint in that image, Frank, and the walker really completes the scene! Dan On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:19 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The University of Toronto is Canada's largest. Along with the university proper, it's composed of several smaller colleges (most if not all of them church colleges, or at least former church colleges). Knox College is (obviously) the Presbyterian college at U of T. The church colleges feature lovely older architecture. Knox College is no exception: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/knox-college-university-of-toronto.html This one's specifically for Christine, as Subway Jesus bothered her a bit. Hopefully this is a bit more comfortable, Christine. ;-) Hope you all enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Protesting global warming
Wonderful! BTW, there is no such thing as global warming. It is more correctly referred to a climate change, and more that warming the entire planet, it is bringing us more extreme weather of all types. If we keep calling it global warming, people suffering from unusual cold and extreme snows fall to connect what is happening to them with the world-wide changes affecting us all. Dan On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW Week 5
Very effective image, Christine. Dan -- Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Nothing great. Just some end punctuation to the week of snow we've had. Cheers, Christine http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Protesting global warming
Total Bullshit. On 2/6/2011 2:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wonderful! BTW, there is no such thing as global warming. It is more correctly referred to a climate change, and more that warming the entire planet, it is bringing us more extreme weather of all types. If we keep calling it global warming, people suffering from unusual cold and extreme snows fall to connect what is happening to them with the world-wide changes affecting us all. Dan On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
