Re: A weekend in Bohemia
On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote: When we went to Prague, everyone in our party kept on at me to take a group shot on that bridge over the river near where it has the thing you're supposed to touch to make sure you go back. I refused saying it's just a bloody bridge. Strangely, we've never been back to Prague. Spooky or what? I've seen Bloody Bridge but it's not in Prague ;) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches
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Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:34:43 -0700 John Celio wrote: You may have convinced me to go ahead and order one. The price is a bit steep, but I think it is worth it :-) Do you know if photo sharing sites like Flickr and Picasa read the GPS data and tag your location when you upload photos with intact EXIF data? I have no experience with either, but I know that more and more of those sites DO read (and display) geo infomation when it is present in the EXIF information. Sofar I have only used it within Lightroom, and when exporting I normally strip off the geo and location info for privacy reasons, but for vacation or travel pictures you may leave that in of course. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
--- On Wed, 4/18/12, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:34:43 -0700 John Celio wrote: You may have convinced me to go ahead and order one. The price is a bit steep, but I think it is worth it :-) Do you know if photo sharing sites like Flickr and Picasa read the GPS data and tag your location when you upload photos with intact EXIF data? I have no experience with either, but I know that more and more of those sites DO read (and display) geo infomation when it is present in the EXIF information. Sofar I have only used it within Lightroom, and when exporting I normally strip off the geo and location info for privacy reasons, but for vacation or travel pictures you may leave that in of course. A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag photo later at home. Look at that: http://www.instructables.com/id/Geotag-Your-Digital-Camera-Photos-in-Lightroom-wit/ Then your GPS device is there, already in your pocket;) ~Alban. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: coolscan V or 4000?
Thanks Tim. Some very nice scans. On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Tim Bray wrote: If you want to see what the 4000 ED (erectile dysfunction?) can do, a few dozen of mine (operating mostly on Ektachrome slides) can be found at http://goo.gl/OETKf -T On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I have thousands of transparencies I should scan. I'll never do them all, but it would be nice to at least do a few hundred. My old Epson 3200 flatbed is working again, but its certainly not ideal. So I'm looking at used older Nikon film scanners. The coolscan V and 4000 appear to be priced at around $500 used. I think they're both 4000 dpi scanners. Is one better than the other? Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
Man, I wish we could get our cat to do that. He prefers to drink from a tall glass tumbler, with ice, of course! Walt On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Walt, That's a nice set of photos. One I especially appreciated was 2nd to last. The light on the grass is very beautiful, and highlights the subject. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. A very enjoyable set. The ladybug is my favourite. Just shows that the subject doesn't need to be big in the frame to have impact. The old orange barn is great also. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Again, as in your previous posts, I'm impressed by your attention paid to focus. While I don't know which specific shots were with the Promaster 70~300, they are all crisp and well rendered. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12 Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 12:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. A very enjoyable set. The ladybug is my favourite. Just shows that the subject doesn't need to be big in the frame to have impact. The old orange barn is great also. Thank you, Brian. The most valuable thing I've learned from using a 50mm prime almost exclusively for about a year is that you don't have to zoom in on every single subject to get a decent picture. It's all part of the scene. :-) -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches
Enjoyed your floral shots and Steven's Creek Comments. I lived in San Jose for about 20 yrs and traveled the length of Steven's Creek Blvd numerous times. Usually slowly and bumper-to-bumper. Jack - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:44 PM Subject: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/-big/RUNE4799.jpg.html But captured in a surprising place: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/California-Creek -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Thank you, Bob. I happened to notice the sunlight streaming through a break in a stand of trees behind me and onto the grass in front of me while I was hoping to get a shot of a couple of ducks (blue-winged teals, I think) and several snowy egrets that were on the little lake I was sitting by. I got some truly awful shots of those, FWIW. ;) -- Walt On 4/18/2012 7:47 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Walt, That's a nice set of photos. One I especially appreciated was 2nd to last. The light on the grass is very beautiful, and highlights the subject. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. A very enjoyable set. The ladybug is my favourite. Just shows that the subject doesn't need to be big in the frame to have impact. The old orange barn is great also. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: $13 000 worth of camera gear
I knew my ears were burning! Lol. Steven, I *do* have many friends on your side of the world willing to do my dirty work for me you know! ;-) Tan.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear I figure she's on the other side of the planet. At least I have time to hide. On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're in big trouble now... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear Tan's right. It is a woman. Well, that explains it all. :-o -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches
Tim, I enjoyed your flower photo. It's colorful, but blue leaves ?!? The comment on the pathway was interesting as well. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/-big/RUNE4799.jpg.html But captured in a surprising place: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/California-Creek -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
ha! That's actually rather unusual -- all kitties like to drink from faucets, it seems, but most would not tolerate having that shower.. ann On 4/18/2012 01:57, Brian Walters wrote: Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
And here is Ashley ... since we are doing this... a couple of years ago http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/videos/11197641_D3QNMP/1/785136400_K2D6h/Medium ann On 4/18/2012 08:41, Walter Hamler wrote: Man, I wish we could get our cat to do that. He prefers to drink from a tall glass tumbler, with ice, of course! Walt On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Damn, Walt - wish I could come walk with you.. The ladybug on the branch is my favorite ann On 4/17/2012 23:48, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Thanks, Jack! The best way to distinguish the shots from the Promaster is the bokeh, which looks mottled to my eye. I try to shoot it a couple of stops down from wide-open and avoid zooming all the way out if I can. But it still looks really ugly to me compared to the 50/1.7. The shot of the robin in flight is a good example of the ugly bokeh it sometimes produces. I'd really like to find a nice, old manual focus A lens in that focal range on the (extremely) cheap, someday. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 7:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Again, as in your previous posts, I'm impressed by your attention paid to focus. While I don't know which specific shots were with the Promaster 70~300, they are all crisp and well rendered. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12 Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Thank you, Ann! The spot I stumbled on is one I've known about forever -- since I was a child, in fact -- but it'd been so long since I'd been out there that I never really thought of it as a good location. We always just thought of it as a place to catch fish from the spillway off the watershed as kids. But, I just decided to wander down there since I was already in the vicinity. It's probably a 5-mile walk, round-trip. I'll be going back, for sure. :-) -- Walt On 4/18/2012 8:07 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Damn, Walt - wish I could come walk with you.. The ladybug on the branch is my favorite ann On 4/17/2012 23:48, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
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Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
That makes perfect sense. While I'm not really keen on the actual prices being enforced (who likes to pay more?), getting the product in stores for a similar price as online may actually get me to shop in a store if I want to try a lens out. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
No ties to Cnadian stores.:-) The assistanr manager at the Henrys store in Newmarket Ontario i deal with, and just recently bought my K-5 from, said to me they could sell a lot of Pentax gear if they would stock them more. Not sure if its bs cause i was buying a pentax product or not.??? Dave On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Another great set, we seem to be about 3 weeks behind you up here, so i'm just waiting.:-) Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
Forwarded to MJ. Lucy will only drink out of a cup on the counter, and will on occasion take a sip from the tap, but not like that. Dave On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead
Love the angle shot and the background here. Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I took a little Sunday excursion to Stanley, about 120 miles north. Left at 3:45 AM and arrived shortly after 6:00 AM. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15551533size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Legs
Interesting shot Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15557836 Comments will be appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
Thanks, Dave! I reckon I'm a-fixin' to head out on another excursion. So, I may have another GESO later this afternoon, depending on Lady Luck's disposition today. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 9:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Another great set, we seem to be about 3 weeks behind you up here, so i'm just waiting.:-) Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Dave! I reckon I'm a-fixin' to head out on another excursion. So, I may have another GESO later this afternoon, depending on Lady Luck's disposition today. We live about a mile from the towns reservoir which has several trails around it. Weather is getting better and i see and hear some birds etc now, so a walk around that is in order. Dave -- Walt On 4/18/2012 9:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Another great set, we seem to be about 3 weeks behind you up here, so i'm just waiting.:-) Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
Christine, Thanks for posting this. So Pentax,USA is going to force BH to charge full Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price on the internet. And this price umbrella will support our local Brick Mortar shops profits??? 30+ years ago, long before the internet, folks read photo magazine adds and telephoned BH because of their pricing. The manufacturers gave the big retailers volume discounts off retail price. The local guys could never get that because they didn't have the volume. Now some 30 years later we are going to unwind this? Good Luck! There are no local Brick Mortar shops to sell thru... except maybe that one profit center in Regina, Saskatchewan. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
I believe its illegal for a company to force no discounting policies on retailers. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... Christine, Thanks for posting this. So Pentax,USA is going to force BH to charge full Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price on the internet. And this price umbrella will support our local Brick Mortar shops profits??? 30+ years ago, long before the internet, folks read photo magazine adds and telephoned BH because of their pricing. The manufacturers gave the big retailers volume discounts off retail price. The local guys could never get that because they didn't have the volume. Now some 30 years later we are going to unwind this? Good Luck! There are no local Brick Mortar shops to sell thru... except maybe that one profit center in Regina, Saskatchewan. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the- u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I believe its illegal for a company to force no discounting policies on retailers. The Supreme Court ruled otherwise (at least under some circumstances) in 2007: http://www.fvldlaw.com/?t=40an=923format=xml -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
If it is part of the contract that both parties agree to, why would it be illegal? The retailer is not being forced to sell Pentax products. If they don't like the terms of the deal, then they won't sell Pentax. It certainly hasn't stopped Apple from selling their product at MSRP at other retailers (BM and web). On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I believe its illegal for a company to force no discounting policies on retailers. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... Christine, Thanks for posting this. So Pentax,USA is going to force BH to charge full Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price on the internet. And this price umbrella will support our local Brick Mortar shops profits??? 30+ years ago, long before the internet, folks read photo magazine adds and telephoned BH because of their pricing. The manufacturers gave the big retailers volume discounts off retail price. The local guys could never get that because they didn't have the volume. Now some 30 years later we are going to unwind this? Good Luck! There are no local Brick Mortar shops to sell thru... except maybe that one profit center in Regina, Saskatchewan. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the- u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
I took another look at the bokeh and really didn't connect with it. I remain impressed with the resolution. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:12 AM Subject: Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12 Thanks, Jack! The best way to distinguish the shots from the Promaster is the bokeh, which looks mottled to my eye. I try to shoot it a couple of stops down from wide-open and avoid zooming all the way out if I can. But it still looks really ugly to me compared to the 50/1.7. The shot of the robin in flight is a good example of the ugly bokeh it sometimes produces. I'd really like to find a nice, old manual focus A lens in that focal range on the (extremely) cheap, someday. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 7:49 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Again, as in your previous posts, I'm impressed by your attention paid to focus. While I don't know which specific shots were with the Promaster 70~300, they are all crisp and well rendered. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:48 PM Subject: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12 Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear
I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size. (Wow. That was a lot of crap even for an academic.) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote: I knew my ears were burning! Lol. Steven, I *do* have many friends on your side of the world willing to do my dirty work for me you know! ;-) Tan.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear I figure she's on the other side of the planet. At least I have time to hide. On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're in big trouble now... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear Tan's right. It is a woman. Well, that explains it all. :-o -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
This tracks with the enforced pricing compliance I had recently read was coming. Jack - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:40 AM Subject: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
because it stifles free trade... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... If it is part of the contract that both parties agree to, why would it be illegal? The retailer is not being forced to sell Pentax products. If they don't like the terms of the deal, then they won't sell Pentax. It certainly hasn't stopped Apple from selling their product at MSRP at other retailers (BM and web). On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I believe its illegal for a company to force no discounting policies on retailers. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... Christine, Thanks for posting this. So Pentax,USA is going to force BH to charge full Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price on the internet. And this price umbrella will support our local Brick Mortar shops profits??? 30+ years ago, long before the internet, folks read photo magazine adds and telephoned BH because of their pricing. The manufacturers gave the big retailers volume discounts off retail price. The local guys could never get that because they didn't have the volume. Now some 30 years later we are going to unwind this? Good Luck! There are no local Brick Mortar shops to sell thru... except maybe that one profit center in Regina, Saskatchewan. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the- u -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
this is new to me and I dont agree with it. For a long time it wasnt allowed. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:37 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: I believe its illegal for a company to force no discounting policies on retailers. The Supreme Court ruled otherwise (at least under some circumstances) in 2007: http://www.fvldlaw.com/?t=40an=923format=xml -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Necessary Advice?
Sadly, I've done that. To remind people is a nice gesture. Hopefully, there wasn't a really big lawsuit involved. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Neither did I. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Dan, I do not know what to make of this one.. ? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15539933 Comments are welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead
On Apr 17, 2012, at 17:06, Tom C wrote: I took a little Sunday excursion to Stanley, about 120 miles north. Left at 3:45 AM and arrived shortly after 6:00 AM. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15551533size=lg That looks great! I'm not even a car photo fan and I like this. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
on 2012-04-17 21:48 Walt Gilbert wrote Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ i liked the grouping of lickable red photos in the middle, and the grass/rushes in sideways light (though the stump seems a little awkward in the frame); flower photos up front, well the first is an nice composition but the colors are over the top for me (just not my cup o tea) on the iris you made good exposure and focus choices, but the tight crop and the background detract a little for me; perhaps it is the name, but to me iris are a mini-muse (after i let go of all who came before — Van Gogh, O'Keefe…); what i mean is i keep shooting them even when i think i've exhausted the subject in order to learn more and discover what i had not seen before; i especially like curly dried up iris petals (lilies too) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
That makes perfect sense. While I'm not really keen on the actual prices being enforced (who likes to pay more?), getting the product in stores for a similar price as online may actually get me to shop in a store if I want to try a lens out. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u I say it makes little sense to the vast majority of consumers. It only makes sense to a company that is a tad arrogant and misguided. Some companies produce products that are in such high demand that they can successfully dictate the selling price, for instance Apple and iPads, Tesla, and Sony in the past. Most companies are not in that position. What position do you (collective you) believe Ricoh Pentax is in? I've never paid MSRP. MSRP has always been artificially high so that anything below that looks like a discount. In fact if Pentax had demanded MSRP for their products, my association with Pentax would have been over at the time I was choosing between a PZ-1p and a Nikon 8008s. I specifically DON'T buy expensive items in the local camera store BECAUSE they attempt to sell it at MSRP or close to it. Yeah, go ahead and knock $50 or a $100 off MSRP. What are they taking me for, a fool? When I can purchase the same item for $100's less from numerous online retailers? Last I checked, Sears Roebuck had the K-5 at MSRP through their online store. Any bets on how many K-5's they sell compared to other retailers? Pentax once again has it backwards. They can only successfully dictate selling price if their product is in such high demand that customers will swallow hard and pull out their credit cards. I simply don't see that happening. I predict this strategy will fail miserably and will lead to a result opposite of what Pentax expects, i.e., fewer sales, lesser volume. Hmm... what will that mean for Pentax? Question, do you (collective you) think that Nikon and Canon have deep enough pockets to simultaneously discount their products? This sounds like Pentax committing hari kari to me. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini GESO - Occupy Toronto Hits the Road
From: kwal...@peoplepc.com Unbelievably there were about 5 guys inside that tiny contrivance when I was talking to them. Theyt must be REALLY close friends. They are now! 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
on 2012-04-18 7:16 Walt Gilbert wrote The spot I stumbled on is one I've known about forever -- since I was a child, in fact -- but it'd been so long since I'd been out there that I never really thought of it as a good location. We always just thought of it as a place to catch fish from the spillway off the watershed as kids. your personal history with the location adds something to the set for me — makes me look for your child's eye in the photos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
The one small problem I see with this policy is that it can only extend to new items. Thus, I think we'll see a plethora of open box demo models being sold as used at whatever the market will bear. I wonder if this is already taking place. The DA 35mm f2.8 Macro Limited (that will finally be in my grubby little hands *tomorrow*) was an E+ used lens at Adorama for a little over $200 less than the new price. Sure, there is no warranty, but I've never had a lens problem that occurred inside of a warranty period anyhow. If you have, then maybe the extra is worth it. But I'm willing to gamble. In any event, I could spend $200 on a repair and still be even with the warranty guy, except that my advantage doesn't expire when the warranty does. The Big Boys obviously are going to have an advantage in quantity of used open box demos they can offer over the small shop. Keep in mind that in the past, the really low prices you saw advertised were for Grey Market lenses that didn't come with USA warranties anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: coolscan V or 4000?
From: Tim Bray If you want to see what the 4000 ED (erectile dysfunction?) can do, a few dozen of mine (operating mostly on Ektachrome slides) can be found at http://goo.gl/OETKf Never thought about it before, but I think the ED has the same meaning as when applied to SLR lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 72, Issue 142
9. Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... (Tom C) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u And this statement: To clarify, we have not raised the prices on any lenses. is a bit disingenuous. If the price the end consumer must pay for a given product is higher than before, than explain to the consumer, how the price has not been raised. I understand that he's talking about price enforcement vs. price raising, but the net effect is price raising. Again... does he expect to sell more product at a higher price than at a lower price? Any additional margin will go to the dealers not Pentax.” So this means consumers will pay more, dealers will sell less, and Pentax will not see any benefit even when their products sell for a higher retail price. Sounds like a lose-tie-lose proposition to me. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
on 2012-04-18 7:40 Christine Nielsen wrote http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u full of unsupported claims about benefits quaint and romantic as the idea is (or isn't, when it's Walmart), a physical retail store is just a lousy proposition if it has to cost a few hundred dollars to have a chance to handle a product for a few minutes before buying it; when will someone realize this and invent something better? for that kind of margin they could send me a loaner lens for a week for free, and swap it for a brand new one if i liked it so Pentax forces consumers to pay more (another way to say it since Bunnell claims prices haven't increased) — that is not going to grow the tiny number of really good camera stores; i think this is more about getting into some giant chain in order to generate sales to less knowledgeable buyers; the clerks at whatever chain this turns out to be will be underpaid non-experts who will spout crap when questioned any true benefit to enthusiasts and pros will be elusive; this is about marketing, not serving the customer; Bunnell is just doing spin control -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Correct subject line this time (crap)... And this statement: To clarify, we have not raised the prices on any lenses. is a bit disingenuous. If the price the end consumer must pay for a given product is higher than before, than explain to the consumer, how the price has not been raised. I understand that he's talking about price enforcement vs. price raising, but the net effect is price raising. Again... does he expect to sell more product at a higher price than at a lower price? Any additional margin will go to the dealers not Pentax.” So this means consumers will pay more, dealers will sell less, and Pentax will not see any benefit even when their products sell for a higher retail price. Sounds like a lose-tie-lose proposition to me. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:57, Darren Addy wrote: Keep in mind that in the past, the really low prices you saw advertised were for Grey Market lenses that didn't come with USA warranties anyway. I got my 16-50 from BuyDig.com back in 2008 and it came with a U.S. warranty. AND it was only $649.00. Current list is, what, about 2 1/2 times that? It's not going to sell at that price. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
I suppose there is the hope that time will soften the sting of higher prices (especially to those largely upset with the fates for having waited too long before buying) when a leveling has been in place for awhile. Jack - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Correct subject line this time (crap)... And this statement: To clarify, we have not raised the prices on any lenses. is a bit disingenuous. If the price the end consumer must pay for a given product is higher than before, than explain to the consumer, how the price has not been raised. I understand that he's talking about price enforcement vs. price raising, but the net effect is price raising. Again... does he expect to sell more product at a higher price than at a lower price? Any additional margin will go to the dealers not Pentax.” So this means consumers will pay more, dealers will sell less, and Pentax will not see any benefit even when their products sell for a higher retail price. Sounds like a lose-tie-lose proposition to me. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
Christine Nielsen wrote on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:40:14 -0700 http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag photo later at home. The downside, of course, is that you have to own a smartphone, which I do not. This device is an awful lot cheaper and doesn't charge overage fees. ;) That aside, my O-GPS1 should be here today or tomorrow. I'm looking forward to trying out its astrophotography feature in the near future. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15551533size=lg Very cool shot - snow in the background? MCC Thanks Mark. Yep snow. Stanley, ID (along with Frasier, CO) is often the cold spot in the continental US. Frozen mix predicted for Stanley most days this week. Thanks Walt, Ann, Steve, JC, Frank, Ken, Jack, John, Tim, Brian, David, Charles. I guess getting there early was a good thing. I personally wished for about 10% more space around the main subject. Maybe I couldn't frame that way on the spot, but I guess it works. Tom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: I got my 16-50 from BuyDig.com back in 2008 and it came with a U.S. warranty. AND it was only $649.00. Current list is, what, about 2 1/2 times that? It's not going to sell at that price. Not to me. Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead
It would look much better if it weren’t on the horribly-designed ad-laden photo.net page. Not seeb when I bring that image up. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Subject: Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead That is very striking. It would look much better if it weren’t on the horribly-designed ad-laden photo.net page. -T On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: I took a little Sunday excursion to Stanley, about 120 miles north. Left at 3:45 AM and arrived shortly after 6:00 AM. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15551533size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
This is like Restrictive Trade Practices worth the notice of the Commerce Dept. Just that Mr. Bunnell has used lots of words - cotton wooling in British slang - to detract from the main point. Hope Ricoh - Pentax sees sense. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear
On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size. My love life is entirely dependent on this trait. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
Obviously not one of the smarter of the species ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Subject: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink. Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
In India it is mandatory by law that every item or product for sale carry an MRP (maximum retail price) on the carton as well as the item inside. However the TV channels keep educating people on their rights saying, you do not have to pay MRP - exercise your right. For example a 500 ml bottle of Listerine has an MRP of INR 150. But the supermarkets will be selling it for INR 135. Even my local Medical shop will give a discount of 5 to 10% on the MRP. Ricoh - Pentax is only harming themselves by forcing On-line as well as BM Stores to sell at MSRP. In fact this is Illegal under the Restrictive Trade Practices Act in India. Sad to say there are NO Stores or Dealers for Pentax DSLRs in any City, repeat any city or Metro in India. Pentax do not have even an Office or a Service Center in India. In fact the Canikons rule the roost here with DSLR sales far exceeding that of their PS cameras. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Necessary Advice?
I'm not sure what kind of lawsuit could result from spilling mouthwash. Now, dropping a bottle of beer or a bottle of whisky because I wasn't holding on properly, that I could see happening. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly, I've done that. To remind people is a nice gesture. Hopefully, there wasn't a really big lawsuit involved. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Neither did I. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Dan, I do not know what to make of this one.. ? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15539933 Comments are welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Legs
Thanks, Walt, Brian and David! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/17/2012 8:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15557836 Comments will be appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Well, I have to admit I had my hopes up for some Derbyesque street photography. But, still, it's an interesting shot. If I were to change anything about it, I'd do a slightly tighter crop to get the $12 item out of the foreground. Aside from that, based on the apparel, I'd probably spend a lot of time loitering at that storefront -- at least until they told me to beat it. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: Christine Nielsen wrote on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:40:14 -0700 http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Hand in Hand
Thanks, Walt! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Hand in Hand I like it, Frank. Rules be damned. Verily I dig the high-contrast rendering, too. -- Walt On 4/13/2012 9:27 PM, frank theriault wrote: I broke one of the Rules of Street Photography: No photos of couples walking away from you holding hands. But, I really liked the light and the overall composition and I tried a very different rendering (due to that light): http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/hand-in-hand.html Hope you like. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini GESO - Occupy Toronto Hits the Road
Solidarity takes on a whole new meaning! :-) Thanks to everyone who looked and commented. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mini GESO - Occupy Toronto Hits the Road From: kwal...@peoplepc.com Unbelievably there were about 5 guys inside that tiny contrivance when I was talking to them. Theyt must be REALLY close friends. They are now! 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Lady of the Lake
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 11:15 John Celio wrote On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM,pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag photo later at home. The downside, of course, is that you have to own a smartphone, which I do not. This device is an awful lot cheaper and doesn't charge overage fees. ;) i think the O-GPS1 is great for those that need it; you don't have to remember to take a phone snappy, and you get some unique features like star-tracking; it might even work better in some situations (though i get good GPS locks with my phone in the backcountry) but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
I have a kind of tangiental GPS question: Is there any EXIF-editing software that will allow me to *manually* add GPS location data (preferably in UTM format) to my photos? I have a notebook full of data about the locations of many of my GFM photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On 2012-04-18 12:48, Jack Davis wrote: I suppose there is the hope that time will soften the sting of higher prices (especially to those largely upset with the fates for having waited too long before buying) when a leveling has been in place for awhile. They can hope that if they want, but that's not how it's going to play out in my house. Their prices were already just within the limits of what I was willing to pay. Pushing them up just means there's literally /no/ way I'll be buying them new. And all to benefit some brick-and-mortar stores that aren't within hundreds of miles of my home, according to Ned. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:14 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-18 11:15 John Celio wrote On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM,pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag photo later at home. The downside, of course, is that you have to own a smartphone, which I do not. This device is an awful lot cheaper and doesn't charge overage fees. ;) i think the O-GPS1 is great for those that need it; you don't have to remember to take a phone snappy, and you get some unique features like star-tracking; it might even work better in some situations (though i get good GPS locks with my phone in the backcountry) but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all If your goal is simply to geotag locations, you should be able to pick up a used smartphone, something like my first generation droid, very cheaply, if not for free. What I used to do is use the camera in my droid specifically for that purpose. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157622699921737/ There is the theory that any pictures that I actually want to geotag that I took with the pentax, I'll be able to go back and resolve them with the droid photos. That seems to work about as well as the theory that all of these pictures that I bracketed my exposure on, I'll go back and apply HDR software on to bring out important details in the highlights and shadows. What I find ultimately frustrating is when I'm looking through the photos I took with my droid to geotag and realize that one would be a dynamite photo, if the image quality wasn't pure shite. I bought the O-GPS1 specifically for the astrotracer functionality, however, I find it quite handy for when I want to geotag something. One way that I think it could prove very handy is in giving directions to someplace. You can take photos of specific landmarks, link to the photos in the directions, and people would also be able to look on a map based on the photo. I took this set because I thought the organizers of a weekly dance might find them handy for people looking for the event the first time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629175036835/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 13:19 Mark Roberts wrote I have a kind of tangiental GPS question: Is there any EXIF-editing software that will allow me to *manually* add GPS location data (preferably in UTM format) to my photos? I have a notebook full of data about the locations of many of my GFM photos. at a minimum you could put that location info into data track files that exiftool could apply; it supports several formats, but i don't know offhand which would be easiest to construc i think you could probably find a tool to batch convert UTM to whatever -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta In India it is mandatory by law that every item or product for sale carry an MRP (maximum retail price) on the carton as well as the item inside. However the TV channels keep educating people on their rights saying, you do not have to pay MRP - exercise your right. For example a 500 ml bottle of Listerine has an MRP of INR 150. But the supermarkets will be selling it for INR 135. Even my local Medical shop will give a discount of 5 to 10% on the MRP. Ricoh - Pentax is only harming themselves by forcing On-line as well as BM Stores to sell at MSRP. In fact this is Illegal under the Restrictive Trade Practices Act in India. Sad to say there are NO Stores or Dealers for Pentax DSLRs in any City, repeat any city or Metro in India. Pentax do not have even an Office or a Service Center in India. In fact the Canikons rule the roost here with DSLR sales far exceeding that of their PS cameras. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. well, it's such a tiny market. Only about - what - 1.18 billion people? Hardly worth the effort really. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u full of unsupported claims about benefits quaint and romantic as the idea is (or isn't, when it's Walmart), a physical retail store is just a lousy proposition if it has to cost a few hundred dollars to have a chance to handle a product for a few minutes before buying it; when will someone realize this and invent something better? for that kind of margin they could send me a loaner lens for a week for free, and swap it for a brand new one if i liked it so Pentax forces consumers to pay more (another way to say it since Bunnell claims prices haven't increased) ? that is not going to grow the tiny number of really good camera stores; i think this is more about getting into some giant chain in order to generate sales to less knowledgeable buyers; the clerks at whatever chain this turns out to be will be underpaid non-experts who will spout crap when questioned any true benefit to enthusiasts and pros will be elusive; this is about marketing, not serving the customer; Bunnell is just doing spin control I agree. I don't find there to be a benefit, tangible or intangible, to purchasing in a local camera store. Certainly not worth a 20% or higher price differential. Of course that differential could be going away according to the strategy. Would I like to see the camera stores stick around? Yes. Do I believe my supporting them by paying my hard earned cash is going to make the difference? No, it's such a small percentage of the market, and like them my income and cash flow are important. We had a local guitar store in business for decades, Old Boise Guitar. I did purchase quite a bit of my son's instruments and gear there, hoping that they could keep going. The thing is, there they really did provide a service. Being able to touch and play the instrument, as well as being very knowledgeable. They went out of business two years ago. Now there's only Guitar Center and the junky music stores. The difference also is that a musical instrument is potentially a life time purchase. A DSLR is really 2 - 3 years at best. Since most camera buyers do not go to the dedicated camera stores to make purchases, getting them into big box's, warehouse clubs, Target's, Walmart's would seem a logical course of action. I don't see how the relationship with the smaller camera stores mentioned in the blog will make much of a difference. In fact I bet a significant portion of their sales, if not a majority, is actually done online vs. walk-in. I personally think Pentax is fighting a losing battle and the best they can really hope for is to maintain the status quo. The only thing they can do that makes sense is to sell more cameras and lenses. To do that, the product should be where the consumer is most likely going to be, in the major chains right next to the Nikon's and Canon's. If they don't do that, everything else mentioned in the blog is pointless. At the same time, raising prices is not likely to generate more sales. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all It was a joke. Didn't the winky emoticon make that clear? ;) ;) ;) I don't own a smartphone because I can't afford the phones nor the calling data plans. Plus, I wouldn't want to pay whatever it costs to use one outside of one's home country on top of all that. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ Mark Roberts wrote: Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. Tom C. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
The most disingenuous statement Mr. Bunnell makes is that Pentax did not raise prices (ostensibly because, by knocking off the discounts any additional profits go to the camera store and not Pentax). That's crazy talk. The Pentax/Ricoh policy *did* raise prices for The Consumer (ultimately the only one we care about). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lady of the Lake
I have to say you have a pleasing habit of producing delicate pleasing colors. Good resolution and composition as well. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
The price differential between Nikon/Canon and Pentax should evolve to previous levels in a reasonably short [period of time. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ Mark Roberts wrote: Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. Tom C. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Legs
Not what I was expecting. Fun shot! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Legs http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15557836 Comments will be appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches
The light is lovely. So are the photos. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/-big/RUNE4799.jpg.html But captured in a surprising place: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/California-Creek -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Lady of the Lake
The reflection makes it. Nice photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Lady of the Lake
Oh yeah: * [Arthur explains his kingship to a fiercely democratic peasant couple.] * *King Arthur*: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king! * *Dennis*: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
Im glad I already purchased all the PENTAX lenses I will ever need on the used market ( read as cheap compared to new prices on new lenses ). They are mostly FF primes that Pentax doesnt even make new anymore anyway. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... The price differential between Nikon/Canon and Pentax should evolve to previous levels in a reasonably short [period of time. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the- u Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explaine d.aspx/ Mark Roberts wrote: Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. Tom C. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
--- On Wed, 4/18/12, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all Note that even though cellular data are not required for location services it may help a bit with A-GPS and network triangulation techniques provided by most modern phones to get a more accurate position in weak signal areas (e.g. cities with a lot of high buildings, ...). Clearly, each tool has its most useful uses. A smartphone is not unwieldy, especially if you already carry one all the time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: NO Dough
On 17/4/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: What were you planning to bake? I think I've been on this email list since about 1998 or so and to this date I have never seen this question asked before. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear
To say Mark would be to damn with faint praise. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size. My love life is entirely dependent on this trait. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: NO Dough
Agreed. Normally the phrase is half-baked'. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 17/4/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: What were you planning to bake? I think I've been on this email list since about 1998 or so and to this date I have never seen this question asked before. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com The most disingenuous statement Mr. Bunnell makes is that Pentax did not raise prices (ostensibly because, by knocking off the discounts any additional profits go to the camera store and not Pentax). That's crazy talk. The Pentax/Ricoh policy *did* raise prices for The Consumer (ultimately the only one we care about). It's either pure spin as someone else wrote and/or it demonstrates being out of touch with the consumer and/or it's just plain callousness. Makes one wonder what % of his income Mr. Bunnell pays for his Pentax gear. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
G'day all I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo parties for kids?
One thing I've done a couple of times, which worked out very well, was what I call a portrait party, where you get a group of friends together, and do portrait sessions with each of them. It ends up with a lot less down time when nobody is being photographed, set up time is shared among four or five people, and the net result is that I can charge a lot less per person. One big advantage of it is that it is a lot of fun, people have their friends there, and you get a lot more honestly happy smiles rather than the forced smile for the camera grimaces. I've had a few people ask me about photographing kids lately. I've only photographed kids a couple of times, just enough to understand how much more difficult it can be. The first problem is that you only have a few minutes before their good mood is used up. What follows is a very blue sky idea, not worked out at all, but I think it has promise, and I'd love feedback from people with more experience on the subject than I. I wonder how it would work to do a portrait party for kids. Have snacks, toys, games etc for the kids that aren't in front of the camera. Do everything possible to make it a fun afternoon, with the photography being part of the fun. Possibly even having costumes and props to get kids hamming it up, and maybe even challenge kids off camera to make the kids on camera smile and laugh. It's quite possible that since each kid would be in front of the camera for just a short period of time, I could likely even do one of these for something like 8-12 kids, and not have to charge lots of money per kid. Thoughts? Suggestions? Simply pointing out that I'm completely out of my skull crazy? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 14:48 alban bernard wrote --- On Wed, 4/18/12, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all Note that even though cellular data are not required for location services it may help a bit with A-GPS and network triangulation techniques provided by most modern phones to get a more accurate position in weak signal areas (e.g. cities with a lot of high buildings, ...). Clearly, each tool has its most useful uses. i was using the charged to your data plan definition of data; triangulation of cell towers (as well as of local wifi signals) helps speed acquisition because the GPS in phones is not very fast; as i understand it, the triangulation is not charged to your data plan; if any data is transferred (versus the phone just looking up tower ids in a cached table), i don't think it is internet data A smartphone is not unwieldy, especially if you already carry one all the time. a phone is not unwieldy to carry, but one could argue the O-GPS1 is more much more wieldy in the mechanics of geotagging -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
Great looking shot, Dave On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 13:45 John Celio wrote On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM,pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all It was a joke. Didn't the winky emoticon make that clear? ;) ;) ;) ah, ok; it didn't compute as a joke, either (which i recognize is a special form of joke); smileys are almost always *not* clear ;? I don't own a smartphone because I can't afford the phones nor the calling data plans. Plus, I wouldn't want to pay whatever it costs to use one outside of one's home country on top of all that. i don't doubt you've done your math on this; here's mine: the phone cost is negligible (my iPhone 4 was $100 in Feb 2011, but i sold old my two-year-old iPhone 3G to Amazon for $140), and my plan is $20/month over what my old non-smartphone cost; for me, that's a better value proposition than paying for something like cable TV (which i don't), but i sympathize with the desire to minimize monthly charges (my thermostat is set to 62 day, 57 night) note that the frugal geek can get a cheap used smartphone with a pay-per-use SIM (swapping when going abroad) and without a data plan, then still do geotagging (and web browsing, email, google voice, skype, etc. when in wifi range) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Tom C wrote: I've never paid MSRP. MSRP has always been artificially high so that anything below that looks like a discount. In fact if Pentax had demanded MSRP for their products, my association with Pentax would have been over at the time I was choosing between a PZ-1p and a Nikon 8008s. I specifically DON'T buy expensive items in the local camera store BECAUSE they attempt to sell it at MSRP or close to it. Yeah, go ahead and knock $50 or a $100 off MSRP. What are they taking me for, a fool? Just to point out that there is another side to the story, I have paid MSRP (minus a small good customer discount) for all of the camera bodies I bought from the PZ-1p (3) through the MZ-S, (2) and *ist-D (2). After that the local guy could no longer get goods from Pentax. I paid MSRP because I wanted a place to go and touch and feel the merchandise, I wanted a place to take care of my photo processing (and then later my scanning), I wanted Mitch to stay in business, and it was worth a few hundred bucks extra on my purchases to help keep him in business. I also don't shop Wal-Mart. I think the drive to the cheapest possible price on everything is a reflection of the unmitigated greed that consumes such a large portion of the population. We want to have all of the stuff that we can get, and rather than prioritizing and choosing what luxuries we will have that we can afford at a reasonable price, we go for cheap low-quality stuff just to have it. Pentax has been extraordinary in providing high quality goods at low prices; at some point the only rational options for them are to lower quality or raise prices; I am comfortable with the latter. It probably means I will only buy one K-3 rather than my preferred two, but I can deal with that. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 10:55 AM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-18 7:16 Walt Gilbert wrote The spot I stumbled on is one I've known about forever -- since I was a child, in fact -- but it'd been so long since I'd been out there that I never really thought of it as a good location. We always just thought of it as a place to catch fish from the spillway off the watershed as kids. your personal history with the location adds something to the set for me — makes me look for your child's eye in the photos The surroundings haven't changed much since then. The only thing that's really changed is that I actually notice it now, where I took it all for granted when I was a child. Youth is indeed wasted on the young. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 9:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Dave! I reckon I'm a-fixin' to head out on another excursion. So, I may have another GESO later this afternoon, depending on Lady Luck's disposition today. We live about a mile from the towns reservoir which has several trails around it. Weather is getting better and i see and hear some birds etc now, so a walk around that is in order. Dave I went back out there today, but I've just about concluded that I'm going to need a 500mm f/4 to really get good shots of the waterfowl. They're all there -- but they seem to know the limits of a 300mm zoom and pose accordingly. -- Walt -- Walt On 4/18/2012 9:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Another great set, we seem to be about 3 weeks behind you up here, so i'm just waiting.:-) Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
So Tom, are you saying that the only reason you and others use Pentax gear is to get a lower price? I, and at least a few others, use Pentax because we prefer their product to Nikon, Canon, and other brands. stan On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tom C wrote: So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups
Thanks very much, Igor. I muchly appreciate that! On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Bruce, That looks like a great exhibit! I wish it was closer. One of the communities whose interest overlaps with the vintage styles is the swing dancers (Lindy Hop, Balboa, Charleston). I've previously met a few swing dancers from Toronto, but don't know them closely. So, I sent an e-mail to TSDS and a couple more groups - as they would probably enjoy this exhibit. Have fun! Igor On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: This may be mainly of interest to Toronto PDMLers, but fwiw: Postmodern Pinups Photography by Bruce Walker at the Junction Chiropractic Wellness Centre 3093 Dundas St West (just west of Quebec Ave.) May 2 - June 4, 2012 Opening Reception Wednesday May 9 6:30PM - 10:00PM Special Guests - Refreshments Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/408602762486042/ The poster: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/JunctionChiroPoster-960px.jpg -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 10:48 AM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-17 21:48 Walt Gilbert wrote Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ i liked the grouping of lickable red photos in the middle, and the grass/rushes in sideways light (though the stump seems a little awkward in the frame); flower photos up front, well the first is an nice composition but the colors are over the top for me (just not my cup o tea) on the iris you made good exposure and focus choices, but the tight crop and the background detract a little for me; perhaps it is the name, but to me iris are a mini-muse (after i let go of all who came before — Van Gogh, O'Keefe…); what i mean is i keep shooting them even when i think i've exhausted the subject in order to learn more and discover what i had not seen before; i especially like curly dried up iris petals (lilies too) Thanks, Steve! I never dwell too long over flowers. I tend to take a few quick snaps if the light seems to be hitting them nicely, but I never really do a study of the flower itself. I should probably devote more effort to them than I do, but I tend to get restless when I hover over any subject for very long. Thanks for the input! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups
Hi Frank! It was great finally meeting you last night. And now I have my own official knarF-taken shaky shot on my SD card. I'll never erase it. :-) I think that with you and I being in the same place that constituted about 20% of the entire TOPDML. The other 80% that I can think of is Dave, Adam Maas, and Fernando Terrazzino (though he hasn't been heard from since last Oct.). Anyone else? When you come to my show you'll finally also see The Junction, and Contact will be on so there will be a number of other actually great galleries to check out. Cheers! On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Dave? You there? I know I will be. Who else is on this list from TO these days? TOPDML ain't what it used to be. Oh yeah, Congrats, Bruce. Might see ya tonight! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups This may be mainly of interest to Toronto PDMLers, but fwiw: Postmodern Pinups Photography by Bruce Walker at the Junction Chiropractic Wellness Centre 3093 Dundas St West (just west of Quebec Ave.) May 2 - June 4, 2012 Opening Reception Wednesday May 9 6:30PM - 10:00PM Special Guests - Refreshments Facebook event: https://www.facebook.com/events/408602762486042/ The poster: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/JunctionChiroPoster-960px.jpg -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
Nice flower, nice image. That is indeed different from most hibiscus flowers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
Hi all, I'm pretty damned tired. I figured after putting in five miles (give-or-take) yesterday without even a muscular twing, a little longer stroll couldn't hurt. Well, I'm here to say it does hurt -- at least in the feet and legs. But, it was a nice day and a little ibuprofen seems to have taken the edge off the aches. I took the same-ol' same-ol' out for a walk today (K20D with A-50/1.7 and K-x with Promaster 70-300)-- off one of my regularly beaten paths down I road I've never walked before. I did get some decent shots, so I figure it was worth the effort. There are 14 in the set, if you care to have a look: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
