RE: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body re:MPs
MPixels dont matter? The old its not the size of the boat, its the motion of the ocean myth. Perpetrated by those with small boats. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Under construction
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Coyle How were they allowed to do that? It destroys the aspect of the Royal Naval College from the hill - pure vandalism! when the stand is finished they're going to pull down the Royal Naval College and the Queen's House to use the stones as gymkhana jumps. Problem solved. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body re:MPs
On May 19, 2012, at 11:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: MPixels dont matter? The old its not the size of the boat, its the motion of the ocean myth. Perpetrated by those with small boats. It's not that MPixels don't matter, it's just that they aren't the only thing that matters. Resolution, Dynamic range, cost ... Pick two. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
On May 19, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Bob W wrote: More publicity if you demonstrate there than if you demonstrate in the car park behind Joe's Tires in Badiddlyboing, Odawidaho. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone ;) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue on Blue
On May 20, 2012, at 3:23 PM, frank theriault wrote: Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey. What a difference a month makes! Today it was green, lush and filled with birds, including this little tree swallow: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html What a pretty little bird. Nicely photographed as well. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
On May 19, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Bob W wrote: A lot of people don't seem to realise that there are megapixels and there are mgeapixels. Mine are all first cold-pressed extra virgin long-staple Egyptian tree-ripened, shade-grown, free-range organic megapixels, whereas he got his from a bloke in Woolwich Market. Is mgeapixel Egyptian for megapixel? Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
On 19/5/12, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom C. (too many words) But wise words ! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue on Blue
Nice shot, Frank. On May 20, 2012, at 3:43 AM, David Mann wrote: On May 20, 2012, at 3:23 PM, frank theriault wrote: Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey. What a difference a month makes! Today it was green, lush and filled with birds, including this little tree swallow: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html What a pretty little bird. Nicely photographed as well. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
G8 doesn't control the wealth of the world, although that's the somewhat simplistic claim of those looking for something to protest. They merely provide a platform for countries to coordinate their financial goals, so that everyone isn't working in a different direction. They're governments, so they must be bad. When the occupy movement isn't demonstrating against G8 or NATO, they will pick another target, any target, it seems, will do, even Rahm Emanuel, Obama's ally. Their we hate it all lack of focus has become laughable, IMO. On May 19, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Thanks, Paul. With respect to your question, Stan and Bob are right, in that, lots of groups will use to advantage historical events that provide a handy--and large--audience for a social, political or economic message, but I wouldn't argue that's the main motivation for protest rallies with respect to NATO/G8. I readily admit I am not deeply read on every group's mission statement and goals, and it's always tricky to speak for someone else, but at yesterday's rally all the speakers and the signage did speak to a single overall position uniting the various groups and organizations. In their view, G8 controls the wealth of the world, and they do so mostly to the advantage of the ruling and corporate elite, thereby creating hardship and disadvantage--and the new buzz word, austerity--for the rest of the world's population. And they view NATO as G8's military instrument to insure that advantage in various direct and indirect ways--war, of course, being the most egregious, direct, and expensive means--in their view. So, in demonstrating against NATO they also demonstrate against the G8; and when they demonstrate against the G8, they demonstrate against NATO. All of what I just said is, of course, my interpretation, and I've probably oversimplified for some, but it is my take on yesterday's event, though it's *not* necessarily my own personal point of view, but I admit to being sympathetic with some of the *economic* message points conveyed at the rally. Cheers, Christine/Chicago On May 19, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Some nice pics. A bit bewildering though in that it's hard to see what any of this has to do with NATO. Would the occupants prefer that we not have an alliance of western democracies? Paul On May 19, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I flirted with the idea of starting a little memoir blog, if you will, on our NATO weekend here in Chicago, but then chucked the idea--for the time being at least. I haven't had a full day of photography like today for probably 3 months at least, so it was a fun day. The nurses union had applied for a permit but had a set-to with the mayor, but then he relented, so the rally went ahead. John Nichols, the Washington D.C. correspondent for the magazine The Nation spoke, as did, Andy Thayer, and Tom Hayden, that is, *the* Tom Hayden. Tom Morello sang--he was great! Lots of other speakers from various progressive organizations and unions spoke as well. The rally was orderly--quite tame actually--cheerful with lots of shouting and singing. Morello sang This Land is Your Land, which was a moving moment and will resonate long in my memory. But then it was over, and most folks went along their merry way. The media reported some smaller splinter groups headed into the loop, but it never amounted to much. The big day is Sunday, and I'm set to head down to the Petrillo Bandshell and do the march to McCormick Place. If I get tired, I'll head home. Darrel will be home on call if I need to be rescued. I've sought advice from our Cotty, so I'll march with greater confidence WRT safety and photographic strategy. There's nothing fancy or greatly artful about the gallery below, but you will get a small sense of what the rally was like. The truth is when I get to events like this I start shouting and singing with everyone else and forget to take pictures. I did take a little video of the speakers and performers, but I had the DA* 50-135 on the K-5, and holding that kit up high in the Hail Mary position for long periods is not fun. It's a bummer being short. There are captions below the photos. http://www.caguila.com/natonurses Cheers, Christine/Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
On May 19, 2012, at 10:51 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with your analysis of this, Christine. It's all about economics, wealth, money and who controls it. G8, G20, the World Bank, IMF, they control how public money (ie: tax dollars) are spent. The G8 doesn't control how tax dollars are spent. It merely provides a platform so that the major countries can establish a moderate level of coordination and thus avoid financial ruin. These organizations are incredibly powerful yet (in the case of the World Bank and IMF) not elected or in any way democratic. They are not answerable to the people. That's scary. They are answerable to the governments elected by the people, or otherwise. They tell elected governments what to do. That, too, is scary. They merely advise, and most of their advise is ignored. Since so much of the public purse is spent on the military, NATO is a big piece of the puzzle. I'm sure that it's fair to say that many if not most of the protesters at these conferences worldwide would prefer to see at least some public funds diverted from the military to social and other programmes. Most of the protesters, unfortunately, just want to protest. Getting one's face on television is the primary goal for most, it would seem. Of course another big reason for these protests is that the world is watching; Exactly. And it costs us all a lot of money in that the police have to try to maintain order, and the sanitation workers have to clean up after. Yesterday, the Chicago police arrested a group that was assembling gasoline bombs. Nice. they have a huge platform from which to publicize their causes and the media is only too happy to oblige. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Sent: May 19, 2012 5/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today Thanks, Paul. With respect to your question, Stan and Bob are right, in that, lots of groups will use to advantage historical events that provide a handy--and large--audience for a social, political or economic message, but I wouldn't argue that's the main motivation for protest rallies with respect to NATO/G8. I readily admit I am not deeply read on every group's mission statement and goals, and it's always tricky to speak for someone else, but at yesterday's rally all the speakers and the signage did speak to a single overall position uniting the various groups and organizations. In their view, G8 controls the wealth of the world, and they do so mostly to the advantage of the ruling and corporate elite, thereby creating hardship and disadvantage--and the new buzz word, austerity--for the rest of the world's population. And they view NATO as G8's military instrument to insure that advantage in various direct and indirect ways--war, of course, being the most egregious, direct, and expensive means--in their view. So, in demonstrating against NATO they also demonstrate against the G8; and when they demonstrate against the G8, they demonstrate against NATO. All of what I just said is, of course, my interpretation, and I've probably oversimplified for some, but it is my take on yesterday's event, though it's *not* necessarily my own personal point of view, but I admit to being sympathetic with some of the *economic* message points conveyed at the rally. Cheers, Christine/Chicago On May 19, 2012, at 6:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Some nice pics. A bit bewildering though in that it's hard to see what any of this has to do with NATO. Would the occupants prefer that we not have an alliance of western democracies? Paul On May 19, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: I flirted with the idea of starting a little memoir blog, if you will, on our NATO weekend here in Chicago, but then chucked the idea--for the time being at least. I haven't had a full day of photography like today for probably 3 months at least, so it was a fun day. The nurses union had applied for a permit but had a set-to with the mayor, but then he relented, so the rally went ahead. John Nichols, the Washington D.C. correspondent for the magazine The Nation spoke, as did, Andy Thayer, and Tom Hayden, that is, *the* Tom Hayden. Tom Morello sang--he was great! Lots of other speakers from various progressive organizations and unions spoke as well. The rally was orderly--quite tame actually--cheerful with lots of shouting and singing. Morello sang This Land is Your Land, which was a moving moment and will resonate long in my memory. But then it was over, and most folks went along their merry way. The media reported some smaller splinter groups headed into the loop, but
Re: Minimum Kit?
If you were going to be restricted to 1 bag max wt 30 lbs, what would you carry as a minimum photographic kit? The 30 lbs has to include all clothing other necessities. The stuff in my pockets doesn't count towards the weight limit, nor does the clothing I'm wearing. Well, I'd budget 20 lbs to clothing and toiletries. The more comfortable I am, the better. Then 10 lbs to photo gear. I guess it would depend on what I am shooting. My 4x5, 1 lens (tessar type) and 6 film holders plus a very light tripod weighs no more than my DSLR and 3 lenses. If I'm shooting landscapes, forget the DSLR. If I'm shooting people events, forget the 4x5. But to the DSLR 3 lenses ... FA24-90 -- a practical and excellent lens, though just a bit big. A50/2.8 macro -- sharp all the way around. FA35/2 -- perfect walking-around lens. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue on Blue
Very nice Dave On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:23 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey. What a difference a month makes! Today it was green, lush and filled with birds, including this little tree swallow: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Silly bird
Nice set Dave On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: As photographs, only so-so (I need a bigger lens); but amusing: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/19/Eagle-Hygiene -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85
Went to some garage sales on Friday afternoon. Picked up a neat old Vivitar 28-85/3.5-4.5 macro zoom. Old thing from the 80s. Came with a nice black Program Plus. So I took it out and tested it against my A50/2.8 macro. These shots are hand-held, so they clearly do not reflect the quality of a serious comparison. But the macro results from the Vivi were very impressive. Full image (vivi shot) reduced to 1K horiz. http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1f_1k.jpg Actual center of image: A50/2.8 http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1c.jpg Vivitar http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbv1c.jpg This is one of those lenses that required minor surgery. It had that large shroud around the aperture arm that hits the PZ pins. Just a quick snip with the dikes and it's gone. And a bit of black marker for flare reduction and all is well. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue on Blue
Beautiful image, Frank! What lens? Jack - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: PESO - Blue on Blue Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey. What a difference a month makes! Today it was green, lush and filled with birds, including this little tree swallow: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85
While not a serious comparison, still encourages you to find a spot for it in the gadget bag. Jack - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net To: pdml pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:09 AM Subject: A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85 Went to some garage sales on Friday afternoon. Picked up a neat old Vivitar 28-85/3.5-4.5 macro zoom. Old thing from the 80s. Came with a nice black Program Plus. So I took it out and tested it against my A50/2.8 macro. These shots are hand-held, so they clearly do not reflect the quality of a serious comparison. But the macro results from the Vivi were very impressive. Full image (vivi shot) reduced to 1K horiz. http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1f_1k.jpg Actual center of image: A50/2.8 http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1c.jpg Vivitar http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbv1c.jpg This is one of those lenses that required minor surgery. It had that large shroud around the aperture arm that hits the PZ pins. Just a quick snip with the dikes and it's gone. And a bit of black marker for flare reduction and all is well. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blue on Blue
Thanks, Jack. The lens was my trusty old completely manual Tokina f2.8 80-200mm zoom. Thanks as well to Dave, Dave and Paul for kind words. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Blue on Blue Beautiful image, Frank! What lens? Jack - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: PESO - Blue on Blue Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey. What a difference a month makes! Today it was green, lush and filled with birds, including this little tree swallow: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Milestone: my work was attacked
My work was attacked this week. And I'm still smiling about it. :-) Posters of my Postmodern Pinups are for sale (cheap!) in Dencan Books near to the Toronto chiropractor's office where my work is. On Tuesday an old woman saw a small advertisement with thumbnails of the pin-ups on it, exclaimed, this is disgusting!', and ripped it off the bookstore wall. She crumpled it up and tossed it at Eddie, the bookstore's owner, exclaiming that women and children could have seen it. Eddie responded by tossing her out. I can only assume that she hasn't seen any television in the last three or four decades. :-) But she can rest easy that she has successfully protected Toronto's buyers of used paperbacks and DVDs from the horrors of semi-public exposure to images of garters and stocking tops. At least until I replace that ad. By the way, Eddie guessed the little-old-lady was about 75, which isn't so old really. My mother adores the pin-ups and she's 90. Of course, she has to, she's my mother. :-) If you haven't seen it, this is the stuff in question: http://135mm.500px.com/pinup_creative/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Under construction
From: Bob W This is the Olympic equestrian arena under construction in Greenwich Park: http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/P0190015_large.html B Will you still be allowed to sit there on the hillside once it's complete? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
From: Larry Colen On May 19, 2012, at 4:36 AM, Bob W wrote: [...] I take the general point you and others are making: many/most purchasers don't know what they are doing, and they will be overly impressed by whatever facts and figures the advertisers and sales persons are throwing out. But the MP arms race will peak soon, if it hasn't already. stan one of my brothers was rather scathing about my Leica because it doesn't have as many megapixels as his phone. A lot of people don't seem to realise that there are megapixels and there are mgeapixels. Mine are all first cold-pressed extra virgin long-staple Egyptian tree-ripened, shade-grown, free-range organic megapixels, whereas he got his from a bloke in Woolwich Market. With newer cameras having so many more megapixels, rendering the older cameras obsolete, at what point do I have to start throwing away the photos I took with a 6MP camera because they are no loner any good? What about 12 or 14MP? You were supposed to start yesterday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Under construction
This is the Olympic equestrian arena under construction in Greenwich Park: http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/P0190015_large.html B Will you still be allowed to sit there on the hillside once it's complete? No. The whole park will be closed and the area outside the arena will be used for the cross-country event. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Milestone: my work was attacked
make sure your local paper gets to hear about the controversy and prints it big on the front page! B My work was attacked this week. And I'm still smiling about it. :-) Posters of my Postmodern Pinups are for sale (cheap!) in Dencan Books near to the Toronto chiropractor's office where my work is. On Tuesday an old woman saw a small advertisement with thumbnails of the pin-ups on it, exclaimed, this is disgusting!', and ripped it off the bookstore wall. She crumpled it up and tossed it at Eddie, the bookstore's owner, exclaiming that women and children could have seen it. Eddie responded by tossing her out. I can only assume that she hasn't seen any television in the last three or four decades. :-) But she can rest easy that she has successfully protected Toronto's buyers of used paperbacks and DVDs from the horrors of semi-public exposure to images of garters and stocking tops. At least until I replace that ad. By the way, Eddie guessed the little-old-lady was about 75, which isn't so old really. My mother adores the pin-ups and she's 90. Of course, she has to, she's my mother. :-) If you haven't seen it, this is the stuff in question: http://135mm.500px.com/pinup_creative/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Minimum Kit?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl If you were going to be restricted to 1 bag max wt 30 lbs, what would you carry as a minimum photographic kit? The 30 lbs has to include all clothing other necessities. The stuff in my pockets doesn't count towards the weight limit, nor does the clothing I'm wearing. Well, I'd budget 20 lbs to clothing and toiletries. what are you going to wear? A diving suit full of toothpaste? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo jam!
From: Larry Colen OK folks, let's do it. But just one photo per entry. I'll arbitrarily pick Igor's last photo as his. Let's do a photo jam. If the last photo posted inspires you, append one of yours to the end. Doesn't inspire me, just nags me to get back to work on the house and quit wasting time on the computer. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
A lot of people don't seem to realise that there are megapixels and there are mgeapixels. Mine are all first cold-pressed extra virgin long-staple Egyptian tree-ripened, shade-grown, free-range organic megapixels, whereas he got his from a bloke in Woolwich Market. Is mgeapixel Egyptian for megapixel? it's a hieroglanagram. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Under construction
Nice photo, Bob. Cheers, Christine On May 20, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This is the Olympic equestrian arena under construction in Greenwich Park: http://www.web-options.com/Greenwich/content/P0190015_large.html B Will you still be allowed to sit there on the hillside once it's complete? No. The whole park will be closed and the area outside the arena will be used for the cross-country event. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minimum Kit?
A while back I went on a photowalk and didn't want to carry much. I took one camera body, the DA-21, 40 and 70 and the 10-17mm fisheye zoom. I never took the 40 out of the bag. While I wouldn't want to go on a safari with this mix, I think I could be quite happy on typical vacation. I'd probably leave the 40 at home. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl If you were going to be restricted to 1 bag max wt 30 lbs, what would you carry as a minimum photographic kit? The 30 lbs has to include all clothing other necessities. The stuff in my pockets doesn't count towards the weight limit, nor does the clothing I'm wearing. Well, I'd budget 20 lbs to clothing and toiletries. what are you going to wear? A diving suit full of toothpaste? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
Christine, I especially like the shot of Andy Thayer--the framing gives it a dramatic you are there! quality. It's a great gallery all around, though. My daughter is there as a street medic--I hope she has a boring time. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:53 AM Subject: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today Hi Everyone: I flirted with the idea of starting a little memoir blog, if you will, on our NATO weekend here in Chicago, but then chucked the idea--for the time being at least. I haven't had a full day of photography like today for probably 3 months at least, so it was a fun day. The nurses union had applied for a permit but had a set-to with the mayor, but then he relented, so the rally went ahead. John Nichols, the Washington D.C. correspondent for the magazine The Nation spoke, as did, Andy Thayer, and Tom Hayden, that is, *the* Tom Hayden. Tom Morello sang--he was great! Lots of other speakers from various progressive organizations and unions spoke as well. The rally was orderly--quite tame actually--cheerful with lots of shouting and singing. Morello sang This Land is Your Land, which was a moving moment and will resonate long in my memory. But then it was over, and most folks went along their merry way. The media reported some smaller splinter groups headed into the loop, but it never amounted to much. The big day is Sunday, and I'm set to head down to the Petrillo Bandshell and do the march to McCormick Place. If I get tired, I'll head home. Darrel will be home on call if I need to be rescued. I've sought advice from our Cotty, so I'll march with greater confidence WRT safety and photographic strategy. There's nothing fancy or greatly artful about the gallery below, but you will get a small sense of what the rally was like. The truth is when I get to events like this I start shouting and singing with everyone else and forget to take pictures. I did take a little video of the speakers and performers, but I had the DA* 50-135 on the K-5, and holding that kit up high in the Hail Mary position for long periods is not fun. It's a bummer being short. There are captions below the photos. http://www.caguila.com/natonurses Cheers, Christine/Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
York PDML?
Our travel plans are gradually turning from liquid phase to a gel, and we're going to be in York (as in UK, not Pennsylvania!*) 16-17 June. I'd love to get together with some PDMLers, if any are available. Cheers, Rick (*sorry Scott!) http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Megapixels and details...a sample
All this talk of megapixels made me curious. A few days ago I took this photo of the Soda Fountain at a local museum. I processed the full size photo and a small detail the way I would typically share them on the web. The original raw file is roughly 7200x4800 pixels. The jpeg version is about 15Mb. The shareable version of this and the detail shot are resized to 2000 pixels on the long side. The detail was originally a little over 800 pixels. The jpegs of these are around 1.5Mb. All three of them are here: http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/Megapixel-detail/23073037_TXJtHq I didn't do anything out of the ordinary to them. They all got standard sharpening for the screen in the lightroom export. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Alternation
Not High Art--for some reason this amused me: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15727132 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Alternation
I'm surprised nobody's using it for parkour. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Sent: 20 May 2012 16:33 To: Pentax List Subject: PESO - Alternation Not High Art--for some reason this amused me: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15727132 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
In the Something to think about. thread I opined that the D800E was likely to be in my upward growth path for more useable resolution in the type of studio shooting I'm doing lately. A few kind PDMLers suggested that the K-5 might give me what I'm looking for and sent me some RAW and high-rez JPEGs to compare against. Thank you very much, Paul, Larry and Boris! I pulled all these images into Lightroom, made a gallery of them and some of my best in-studio (untouched) raws, closely examined eyes and eyebrows in full-body and head and shoulder portraits, and here's what I concluded. - at ISO 80 (K-5) and 100 (K-5 K20D), the noise (or complete lack of) is indistinguishable between them. - in all cases, in full-body shots eyebrows are indistinct (read: fairly blurry smudges). No diff between K-5 and K20D. - in head shoulders portraits, eyes and brows are sharp and well-resolved and it's very hard to say which is better, but I think the K-5 may have a very slight edge over the K20D. - the lenses being used make more difference than the two bodies. (No great surprise here.) And Boris's Sigma (whatever it is) is *sweet!* - I'll get more resolution improvement by simply using a tripod or monopod to shoot with rather then upgrading to a K-5. I also grabbed a few D800 head shoulders portrait images from DPreview and compared. It's pretty clear that there's a large improvement in resolution, but it's also hard to see by how much. I'm convinced that the D800 shots were all done with a tripod, whereas all of mine and the loaners were hand-held. There is not an order of magnitude difference in resolution. There were no full-body, f8 or above, studio lighting D800 shots, so there was nothing for me to compare there. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. The good news for me I don't feel so much disadvantaged by my 2008-vintage kit as I was beginning to. I'm still in the ballgame. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: York PDML?
Our travel plans are gradually turning from liquid phase to a gel, and we're going to be in York (as in UK, not Pennsylvania!*) 16-17 June. You've caught London, England Syndrome: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/brysons-america-were-going- to-dumb-down-the-american-way-1186816.html I'd love to get together with some PDMLers, if any are available. I'll try! B Cheers, Rick (*sorry Scott!) http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minimum Kit?
From: Larry Colen On May 19, 2012, at 12:09 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling Take the 18-55 and 80-200 it's easier to get by with a gap between 55 and 80 than losing the wide end, and unless your shooting circumstance is very peculiar, you'll want a moderate wide more than a super wide. If you have something smallish and fast, say a 50 f1.4 take that too. You may never need it but it will give you the ability to shoot in lower light without flash. I've got the Sigma 30 f/1.4. Take that instead of the 10-20? I would definitely want a fast standard lens, I shot for years with just a 58/1.4 on my SRT-101. If clothing, and what's in your pockets don't count toward the weight limit, why not invest in a photographer's vest where you can carry half a dozen lenses in the pockets? Also, do cameras around your neck count toward the weight limit? For that matter, when do they weigh you? How many pairs of underwear, shirts etc. can you wear for long enough to get through the weight check? I plan to carry my camera around my neck, and I don't think it's counted toward the baggage weight. No carry-on baggage is allowed, but I can get away with a few items in my coat pocket. It's a military aircraft about the size of a Learjet the weight check is when you surrender the bag to the crew chief just before boarding. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
*THEY* also control who gets taxed and who doesn't. From: knarftheriault I agree with your analysis of this, Christine. It's all about economics, wealth, money and who controls it. G8, G20, the World Bank, IMF, they control how public money (ie: tax dollars) are spent. These organizations are incredibly powerful yet (in the case of the World Bank and IMF) not elected or in any way democratic. They are not answerable to the people. That's scary. They tell elected governments what to do. That, too, is scary. Since so much of the public purse is spent on the military, NATO is a big piece of the puzzle. I'm sure that it's fair to say that many if not most of the protesters at these conferences worldwide would prefer to see at least some public funds diverted from the military to social and other programmes. Of course another big reason for these protests is that the world is watching; they have a huge platform from which to publicize their causes and the media is only too happy to oblige. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Minimum Kit?
[...] It's a military aircraft about the size of a Learjet the weight check is when you surrender the bag to the crew chief just before boarding. ...peers out of the window to check the size of his Learjet... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pile of rubble
From: Joseph McAllister In fact, local papers TV began showing images of marker buoys months ago that hit the Washington shores. Last week along with another large buoy was a motorcycle, I guess with an empty tank and fully inflated tires. Couldn't tell with all the seaweed. I read somewhere the guy was using a shipping container as a garage, and the container washed up with the motorcycle still inside it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minimum Kit?
From: Collin Brendemuehl If you were going to be restricted to 1 bag max wt 30 lbs, what would you carry as a minimum photographic kit? The 30 lbs has to include all clothing other necessities. The stuff in my pockets doesn't count towards the weight limit, nor does the clothing I'm wearing. Well, I'd budget 20 lbs to clothing and toiletries. The more comfortable I am, the better. Then 10 lbs to photo gear. I guess it would depend on what I am shooting. My 4x5, 1 lens (tessar type) and 6 film holders plus a very light tripod weighs no more than my DSLR and 3 lenses. If I'm shooting landscapes, forget the DSLR. If I'm shooting people events, forget the 4x5. But to the DSLR 3 lenses ... FA24-90 -- a practical and excellent lens, though just a bit big. A50/2.8 macro -- sharp all the way around. FA35/2 -- perfect walking-around lens. I'm trying to go to Scotland to photograph a steam train that runs from Fort William to Mallaig. Bucket list stuff. If I got *really, REALLY* lucky, I might be able to catch a steam excursion on a different train from Cambridge to Fort William. Not counting on that one, but I hope I might get a photo or two as it comes past. The catch is I will be traveling Space-A [free ride in an otherwise empty seat] on a military aircraft from a base in the US to an RAF base in England. That's where the weight restriction comes from. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
On 5/20/2012 19:08, Bruce Walker wrote: In the Something to think about. thread I opined that the D800E was likely to be in my upward growth path for more useable resolution in the type of studio shooting I'm doing lately. A few kind PDMLers suggested that the K-5 might give me what I'm looking for and sent me some RAW and high-rez JPEGs to compare against. Thank you very much, Paul, Larry and Boris! You're very welcome, sir! - the lenses being used make more difference than the two bodies. (No great surprise here.) And Boris's Sigma (whatever it is) is *sweet!* It is rather cheap USD 250 Sigma EX DG 24-60/2.8 which is by the way a full frame lens that is certainly dandier than its monetary worth. Except seemingly (I did not shoot targets to ascertain that) every so minor difference in color rendering it is probably as good as DA* 16-50/2.8 IQ-wise. And sans SDM and WR it is built just as good as DA* - very tight tolerances, etc. I also grabbed a few D800 head shoulders portrait images from DPreview and compared. It's pretty clear that there's a large improvement in resolution, but it's also hard to see by how much. I'm convinced that the D800 shots were all done with a tripod, whereas all of mine and the loaners were hand-held. There is not an order of magnitude difference in resolution. There were no full-body, f8 or above, studio lighting D800 shots, so there was nothing for me to compare there. I remember a long time ago, before digital kicked in, an article on the web that maintained that by shooting hand-held most of alleged advantages of low-sensitivity high-res film and big MTF rating lenses are negated. You appear to support the idea that this thesis is still valid. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. I am thinking that the only true IQ advantage of K-5 above its peers (K20D or K-7) is that of sensor dynamic range (and 14-bit RAW too). It simply allows you for more flexibility when you set up your light or when you process your images afterwards. If this is of little importance to you then indeed from pure IQ point of view K-5 does not offer anything on top of, say K20D. Glad my modest offerings could be of help, Bruce. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
An opportunity well grasp, Boris. Well you included the curved sweep of road and palms. Jack - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:11 AM Subject: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Alternation
That's the kind of formalized imagery that needs to be perspective corrected. Then it might just be High Art. On 5/20/2012 11:33 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Not High Art--for some reason this amused me: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15727132 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
nice shot -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 20 May 2012 18:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning- sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
On May 20, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I remember a long time ago, before digital kicked in, an article on the web that maintained that by shooting hand-held most of alleged advantages of low-sensitivity high-res film and big MTF rating lenses are negated. You appear to support the idea that this thesis is still valid. It would be interesting to see how much difference hand held versus tripod makes with studio flash, or with speedlight. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. At ISO 100 I'm not sure much anything will make a bid difference. I'm sure that someone good with math could look at the MTF of different lenses, translate that into resolution at APS or 24x36 sensor sizes , and come up with a maximum effective resolution for that lens. One of the things that Kennyboy said that seemed to make sense on his site is that one of the biggest advantage of larger sensor sizes (or larger film) is that the lens doesn't have to be as sharp to have a sharper final image. He didn't mention whether it costs more for a full frame lens with 100 lines per mm resolution than it does for an aps lens with 140 lines per mm (or whatever the typical is). Note that when I'm working in the studio, the ultimate, best, resolution is not my number one goal. I'm concerned with lighting, composition, maybe depth of field as an artistic element, or to make focusing less critical, and I'm just assuming that things will be sharp enough. I didn't even check to see what lens I used for the shots you asked for. However, it's my general feeling that pretty much any lens in the f/10 to f/16 range is working in it's sweet spot, and if you are looking at just sharpness it may be tough to tell a kit lens from an FA77. I am thinking that the only true IQ advantage of K-5 above its peers (K20D or K-7) is that of sensor dynamic range (and 14-bit RAW too). It simply allows you for more flexibility when you set up your light or when you process your images afterwards. If this is of little importance to you then indeed from pure IQ point of view K-5 does not offer anything on top of, say K20D. If you are always going to use flash, and they're going to throw enough photons that you can always use base ISO, the advantages of the K-5 versus the K20 are more along the lines of focus speed, bigger viewfinder, how it fits in your hand, buffer size, ability to use Live View on the tripod for manual focusing on static images, a focus assist light and so forth. If I were an even bigger geek than I am, it would be fun to set up a test, using multiple cameras, lenses, tripods, lights and test the resolving power of different setups and see what it takes to get the ultimate sharpness in the studio. However, since I do have a life outside of photography, I just don't see myself having the time and resources to do such a test. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
I moved to a K-5 from a K20 and the big difference - for me, huge - was the improved low-light performance. For someone like me who finds not plans pictures, and who hates flashes anyhow, it really is a big deal. -T On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: In the Something to think about. thread I opined that the D800E was likely to be in my upward growth path for more useable resolution in the type of studio shooting I'm doing lately. A few kind PDMLers suggested that the K-5 might give me what I'm looking for and sent me some RAW and high-rez JPEGs to compare against. Thank you very much, Paul, Larry and Boris! I pulled all these images into Lightroom, made a gallery of them and some of my best in-studio (untouched) raws, closely examined eyes and eyebrows in full-body and head and shoulder portraits, and here's what I concluded. - at ISO 80 (K-5) and 100 (K-5 K20D), the noise (or complete lack of) is indistinguishable between them. - in all cases, in full-body shots eyebrows are indistinct (read: fairly blurry smudges). No diff between K-5 and K20D. - in head shoulders portraits, eyes and brows are sharp and well-resolved and it's very hard to say which is better, but I think the K-5 may have a very slight edge over the K20D. - the lenses being used make more difference than the two bodies. (No great surprise here.) And Boris's Sigma (whatever it is) is *sweet!* - I'll get more resolution improvement by simply using a tripod or monopod to shoot with rather then upgrading to a K-5. I also grabbed a few D800 head shoulders portrait images from DPreview and compared. It's pretty clear that there's a large improvement in resolution, but it's also hard to see by how much. I'm convinced that the D800 shots were all done with a tripod, whereas all of mine and the loaners were hand-held. There is not an order of magnitude difference in resolution. There were no full-body, f8 or above, studio lighting D800 shots, so there was nothing for me to compare there. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. The good news for me I don't feel so much disadvantaged by my 2008-vintage kit as I was beginning to. I'm still in the ballgame. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
I'm not surprised the resolution difference is minimal and all but disappears when you compare linear resolution. The place the K-5 shines is in high ISO low light shooting as far as IQ is concerned. Studio shooting with plenty of light you might as well stick with the K20D. There are only really four reasons to get a K-5. Low light High ISO shooting. Extremely quiet shutter, (supposedly quieter than the Leica M9). Smaller lighter body, (the K20D hulks over the *ist-D), better autofocus. Notice resolution doesn't figure into this. Images taken with both the K20D should be near indistinguishable at any ISO under 800. The total resolution difference is about 12% but linear resolution which is what really counts in discerning fine detail is only about a 5% difference. Since you're shooting in a studio and controlling the lighting you would expect little or no improvement. With the Nikon D800 you'll see almost a 40 percent improvement in linear resolution. Now that is significant. But it still may not be sufficient to resolve the details you wish to be able to record. On 5/20/2012 12:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: In the Something to think about. thread I opined that the D800E was likely to be in my upward growth path for more useable resolution in the type of studio shooting I'm doing lately. A few kind PDMLers suggested that the K-5 might give me what I'm looking for and sent me some RAW and high-rez JPEGs to compare against. Thank you very much, Paul, Larry and Boris! I pulled all these images into Lightroom, made a gallery of them and some of my best in-studio (untouched) raws, closely examined eyes and eyebrows in full-body and head and shoulder portraits, and here's what I concluded. - at ISO 80 (K-5) and 100 (K-5 K20D), the noise (or complete lack of) is indistinguishable between them. - in all cases, in full-body shots eyebrows are indistinct (read: fairly blurry smudges). No diff between K-5 and K20D. - in head shoulders portraits, eyes and brows are sharp and well-resolved and it's very hard to say which is better, but I think the K-5 may have a very slight edge over the K20D. - the lenses being used make more difference than the two bodies. (No great surprise here.) And Boris's Sigma (whatever it is) is *sweet!* - I'll get more resolution improvement by simply using a tripod or monopod to shoot with rather then upgrading to a K-5. I also grabbed a few D800 head shoulders portrait images from DPreview and compared. It's pretty clear that there's a large improvement in resolution, but it's also hard to see by how much. I'm convinced that the D800 shots were all done with a tripod, whereas all of mine and the loaners were hand-held. There is not an order of magnitude difference in resolution. There were no full-body, f8 or above, studio lighting D800 shots, so there was nothing for me to compare there. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. The good news for me I don't feel so much disadvantaged by my 2008-vintage kit as I was beginning to. I'm still in the ballgame. :-) -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
Hi Rick and everyone. We just left the rally. So far I think Rick's daughter is having a boring time, but the march hadn't started when we left. Darrel ended up going with me. At one point he said, I'm totally amazed we've been here several hours and I haven't smelled anything illegal. Totally different protest generation :-). We're finishing our lunch then will head home. I don't think we're going to march to McCormick place. Cheers Christine On May 20, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Christine, I especially like the shot of Andy Thayer--the framing gives it a dramatic you are there! quality. It's a great gallery all around, though. My daughter is there as a street medic--I hope she has a boring time. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:53 AM Subject: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today Hi Everyone: I flirted with the idea of starting a little memoir blog, if you will, on our NATO weekend here in Chicago, but then chucked the idea--for the time being at least. I haven't had a full day of photography like today for probably 3 months at least, so it was a fun day. The nurses union had applied for a permit but had a set-to with the mayor, but then he relented, so the rally went ahead. John Nichols, the Washington D.C. correspondent for the magazine The Nation spoke, as did, Andy Thayer, and Tom Hayden, that is, *the* Tom Hayden. Tom Morello sang--he was great! Lots of other speakers from various progressive organizations and unions spoke as well. The rally was orderly--quite tame actually--cheerful with lots of shouting and singing. Morello sang This Land is Your Land, which was a moving moment and will resonate long in my memory. But then it was over, and most folks went along their merry way. The media reported some smaller splinter groups headed into the loop, but it never amounted to much. The big day is Sunday, and I'm set to head down to the Petrillo Bandshell and do the march to McCormick Place. If I get tired, I'll head home. Darrel will be home on call if I need to be rescued. I've sought advice from our Cotty, so I'll march with greater confidence WRT safety and photographic strategy. There's nothing fancy or greatly artful about the gallery below, but you will get a small sense of what the rally was like. The truth is when I get to events like this I start shouting and singing with everyone else and forget to take pictures. I did take a little video of the speakers and performers, but I had the DA* 50-135 on the K-5, and holding that kit up high in the Hail Mary position for long periods is not fun. It's a bummer being short. There are captions below the photos. http://www.caguila.com/natonurses Cheers, Christine/Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
Assuming perfect lenses it doesn't improve that much. I can say right now my lenses and the K20D sensor are better than my technique will show. On 5/20/2012 1:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On May 20, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I remember a long time ago, before digital kicked in, an article on the web that maintained that by shooting hand-held most of alleged advantages of low-sensitivity high-res film and big MTF rating lenses are negated. You appear to support the idea that this thesis is still valid. It would be interesting to see how much difference hand held versus tripod makes with studio flash, or with speedlight. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. At ISO 100 I'm not sure much anything will make a bid difference. I'm sure that someone good with math could look at the MTF of different lenses, translate that into resolution at APS or 24x36 sensor sizes , and come up with a maximum effective resolution for that lens. One of the things that Kennyboy said that seemed to make sense on his site is that one of the biggest advantage of larger sensor sizes (or larger film) is that the lens doesn't have to be as sharp to have a sharper final image. He didn't mention whether it costs more for a full frame lens with 100 lines per mm resolution than it does for an aps lens with 140 lines per mm (or whatever the typical is). Note that when I'm working in the studio, the ultimate, best, resolution is not my number one goal. I'm concerned with lighting, composition, maybe depth of field as an artistic element, or to make focusing less critical, and I'm just assuming that things will be sharp enough. I didn't even check to see what lens I used for the shots you asked for. However, it's my general feeling that pretty much any lens in the f/10 to f/16 range is working in it's sweet spot, and if you are looking at just sharpness it may be tough to tell a kit lens from an FA77. I am thinking that the only true IQ advantage of K-5 above its peers (K20D or K-7) is that of sensor dynamic range (and 14-bit RAW too). It simply allows you for more flexibility when you set up your light or when you process your images afterwards. If this is of little importance to you then indeed from pure IQ point of view K-5 does not offer anything on top of, say K20D. If you are always going to use flash, and they're going to throw enough photons that you can always use base ISO, the advantages of the K-5 versus the K20 are more along the lines of focus speed, bigger viewfinder, how it fits in your hand, buffer size, ability to use Live View on the tripod for manual focusing on static images, a focus assist light and so forth. If I were an even bigger geek than I am, it would be fun to set up a test, using multiple cameras, lenses, tripods, lights and test the resolving power of different setups and see what it takes to get the ultimate sharpness in the studio. However, since I do have a life outside of photography, I just don't see myself having the time and resources to do such a test. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
On May 20, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. It's a very good shot, as usual. I like the way that you show some of the road. I think that it would be improved if you were to crop it so that the three in the lower left were much closer to the lower left corner, as that would still show road and trees for context, but would feature the goats more prominently. I'd also love to see some, if you have any, much tighter, of just the goats. Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
On May 20, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning- sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. I've just thought of a really bad joke: they're landscapegoats! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today
On May 20, 2012, at 12:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: *THEY* also control who gets taxed and who doesn't. *THEY* have no power of taxation. The G8 and the IMF are merely forums where nations get together and talk about monetary policy and try to determine a best course of action. Yesterday, at the G8 meeting at Camp David, that extremist from the radical right, Barack Obama, suggested that the western democracies and Russia should try to stimulate the economy and create jobs rather than focus on austerity. The other leaders where generally in agreement. The G8 was formed after the oil crisis of the 70s, and it has generally served to avoid disasters. The IMF was formed at the end of world war II when currencies were in disarray, and it has usually managed to straighten out international messes. All of the organizations are managed by your elected leaders. In response to Obama's request for job creation, the occupants marched on Rahm Emanuel's house, and some even threatened to burn it down. The G8 isn't scary. People building bombs in their basement are scary.. Paul From: knarftheriault I agree with your analysis of this, Christine. It's all about economics, wealth, money and who controls it. G8, G20, the World Bank, IMF, they control how public money (ie: tax dollars) are spent. These organizations are incredibly powerful yet (in the case of the World Bank and IMF) not elected or in any way democratic. They are not answerable to the people. That's scary. They tell elected governments what to do. That, too, is scary. Since so much of the public purse is spent on the military, NATO is a big piece of the puzzle. I'm sure that it's fair to say that many if not most of the protesters at these conferences worldwide would prefer to see at least some public funds diverted from the military to social and other programmes. Of course another big reason for these protests is that the world is watching; they have a huge platform from which to publicize their causes and the media is only too happy to oblige. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]
You won't notice any difference in noise between the K5 and K20D at ISO 200 in flat light. But when I have to use fill in conversion or brighten shadows with dodging, I find that those actions will generate significant noise in the K20 or K7 image but not in the K5 pic. And the few extra megapixels do appear to add some detail resolution in K5 images. I think I can see it in car pics that I shoot off tripods, but I haven't done any side by side, same day tests. I'm not into pixel peeping. But I do know I'd never go back to the K7 or K20. Paul On May 20, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: In the Something to think about. thread I opined that the D800E was likely to be in my upward growth path for more useable resolution in the type of studio shooting I'm doing lately. A few kind PDMLers suggested that the K-5 might give me what I'm looking for and sent me some RAW and high-rez JPEGs to compare against. Thank you very much, Paul, Larry and Boris! I pulled all these images into Lightroom, made a gallery of them and some of my best in-studio (untouched) raws, closely examined eyes and eyebrows in full-body and head and shoulder portraits, and here's what I concluded. - at ISO 80 (K-5) and 100 (K-5 K20D), the noise (or complete lack of) is indistinguishable between them. - in all cases, in full-body shots eyebrows are indistinct (read: fairly blurry smudges). No diff between K-5 and K20D. - in head shoulders portraits, eyes and brows are sharp and well-resolved and it's very hard to say which is better, but I think the K-5 may have a very slight edge over the K20D. - the lenses being used make more difference than the two bodies. (No great surprise here.) And Boris's Sigma (whatever it is) is *sweet!* - I'll get more resolution improvement by simply using a tripod or monopod to shoot with rather then upgrading to a K-5. I also grabbed a few D800 head shoulders portrait images from DPreview and compared. It's pretty clear that there's a large improvement in resolution, but it's also hard to see by how much. I'm convinced that the D800 shots were all done with a tripod, whereas all of mine and the loaners were hand-held. There is not an order of magnitude difference in resolution. There were no full-body, f8 or above, studio lighting D800 shots, so there was nothing for me to compare there. Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either. I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that. The good news for me I don't feel so much disadvantaged by my 2008-vintage kit as I was beginning to. I'm still in the ballgame. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW123 - Movement
Very late thanks Bob :-) Den 14. mai 2012 kl. 22:20 skrev Bob W: I like the sense of counter-movement of the heraldic lion, as if he's trying to resist. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 14 May 2012 21:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PAW123 - Movement http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1001-full.html K-5, DA*16-50mm@39mm, 1/60s, f/6.3, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW124 - Candyfloss?
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA70mm, 1/320s, f/16, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
Boris, Well done, and such a desolate landscape for animals! Do they eat rocks? Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO: Silly bird
Tim, this is a tip from a local Bird Photographer, Watch for the eagle or a hawk to make a big drop. They tend to expel extra weight just before they take off. Don't watch from underneath. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
Yesterday the PSNWA had a model shoot in the Buffalo River area. We started out at Twin Falls, then went to a log barn. A few shots are questionable for work. This is not my normal type of work, so I was trying to get some current shutter time with portraits, etc. Besides, no need to state the obvious. Buffalo River Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/7234132610/in/set-72157629814495792/lightbox/ Bruce has already made a few comments, Thanks Bruce. I answered your question on the shots comments. Any other comments or critiques would be welcomed. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW124 - Candyfloss?
Nice but not the Dagi know.:)_ Dve On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 4:31 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA70mm, 1/320s, f/16, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
Hoe did you get a shot of me. Dave On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday the PSNWA had a model shoot in the Buffalo River area. We started out at Twin Falls, then went to a log barn. A few shots are questionable for work. This is not my normal type of work, so I was trying to get some current shutter time with portraits, etc. Besides, no need to state the obvious. Buffalo River Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/7234132610/in/set-72157629814495792/lightbox/ Bruce has already made a few comments, Thanks Bruce. I answered your question on the shots comments. Any other comments or critiques would be welcomed. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
On 5/20/2012 7:18 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Hoe did you get a shot of me. Never has Dave made a more appropriate misspelling. Dave On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Theodore Beilbytbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yesterday the PSNWA had a model shoot in the Buffalo River area. We started out at Twin Falls, then went to a log barn. A few shots are questionable for work. This is not my normal type of work, so I was trying to get some current shutter time with portraits, etc. Besides, no need to state the obvious. Buffalo River Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/7234132610/in/set-72157629814495792/lightbox/ Bruce has already made a few comments, Thanks Bruce. I answered your question on the shots comments. Any other comments or critiques would be welcomed. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85
Some of those old Vivitar lens were very good: I still occasionally use a Vivitar 135/1.9, which was excellent as a portrait lens on film, and does well on digital too. I'll have to visit more op-shops and garage sales here in Oz, there might well be some similar bargains to be had! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 10:10 PM To: pdml Subject: A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85 Went to some garage sales on Friday afternoon. Picked up a neat old Vivitar 28-85/3.5-4.5 macro zoom. Old thing from the 80s. Came with a nice black Program Plus. So I took it out and tested it against my A50/2.8 macro. These shots are hand-held, so they clearly do not reflect the quality of a serious comparison. But the macro results from the Vivi were very impressive. Full image (vivi shot) reduced to 1K horiz. http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1f_1k.jpg Actual center of image: A50/2.8 http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1c.jpg Vivitar http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbv1c.jpg This is one of those lenses that required minor surgery. It had that large shroud around the aperture arm that hits the PZ pins. Just a quick snip with the dikes and it's gone. And a bit of black marker for flare reduction and all is well. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85
In the late 60's Vivitar and Soligor lenses were the only lenses within my reach. That was when I was completely M42. Jeffery On May 20, 2012, at 7:10 PM, John Coyle wrote: Some of those old Vivitar lens were very good: I still occasionally use a Vivitar 135/1.9, which was excellent as a portrait lens on film, and does well on digital too. I'll have to visit more op-shops and garage sales here in Oz, there might well be some similar bargains to be had! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Collin Brendemuehl Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012 10:10 PM To: pdml Subject: A neat lens: old Vivi 28-85 Went to some garage sales on Friday afternoon. Picked up a neat old Vivitar 28-85/3.5-4.5 macro zoom. Old thing from the 80s. Came with a nice black Program Plus. So I took it out and tested it against my A50/2.8 macro. These shots are hand-held, so they clearly do not reflect the quality of a serious comparison. But the macro results from the Vivi were very impressive. Full image (vivi shot) reduced to 1K horiz. http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1f_1k.jpg Actual center of image: A50/2.8 http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbp1c.jpg Vivitar http://brendemuehl.net/images/v2885/bbv1c.jpg This is one of those lenses that required minor surgery. It had that large shroud around the aperture arm that hits the PZ pins. Just a quick snip with the dikes and it's gone. And a bit of black marker for flare reduction and all is well. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: York PDML?
From: Bob W Our travel plans are gradually turning from liquid phase to a gel, and we're going to be in York (as in UK, not Pennsylvania!*) 16-17 June. You've caught London, England Syndrome: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/brysons-america-were-going- to-dumb-down-the-american-way-1186816.html He's almost got a point about being dumb in America. But, I'm pretty sure if he wears a hat no one will notice it. I could feel my IQ being siphoned away just reading his drivel. I don't think the damage is permanent; just have get some brain exercise - a couple of NY Times cross-word puzzles should do the trick. According to Google Answers, there are 18 places in the United States named London. Wikipedia has entries for 8 of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_%28disambiguation%29 I didn't try to count how many instances of New London there are in the US. Or Paris. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
Nice work. 0082 and 0160 stand out for me, although I'd probably burn in hr left cheek and forehead on 0082.. Did you apply gaussian blur to the skin on some of these? I have no problem with that, just asking. ). You could pick up the exposure to advantage n 0139 I would think and desaturate 0133 a bit. But that's subjective. Paul On May 20, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Yesterday the PSNWA had a model shoot in the Buffalo River area. We started out at Twin Falls, then went to a log barn. A few shots are questionable for work. This is not my normal type of work, so I was trying to get some current shutter time with portraits, etc. Besides, no need to state the obvious. Buffalo River Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/7234132610/in/set-72157629814495792/lightbox/ Bruce has already made a few comments, Thanks Bruce. I answered your question on the shots comments. Any other comments or critiques would be welcomed. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Digital Camera Utility update to v 4.35
has been released. I don't know if it really makes a difference in any way, and as usual I have a bit of trepidation about installing it because it might break the hacks I've done to get it to run on my creaking old desktop. However it's been released. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Today's Peace Rally
Hi Everyone: Darrel I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, and I have to say, that part was kind of lame. The nurses' rally was so much more interesting and fun. But today the people watching was great, and everyone was really, really nice. The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian protestors, and a lot of funny signage. Skirmishes with the police have been reported. The Chicago Tribune has a very compelling gallery of photos if you're interested. Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for family hour, as it were. Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event. To be sure, I mainly went as spectator and photographer. http://www.caguila.com/natoshort Cheers, Christine/Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Today's Peace Rally
Some excellent photos. Very colorful. I particularly like the girl with the yellow Another World is Possible sign. Lots of other good ones. Paul On May 20, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Darrel I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, and I have to say, that part was kind of lame. The nurses' rally was so much more interesting and fun. But today the people watching was great, and everyone was really, really nice. The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian protestors, and a lot of funny signage. Skirmishes with the police have been reported. The Chicago Tribune has a very compelling gallery of photos if you're interested. Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for family hour, as it were. Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event. To be sure, I mainly went as spectator and photographer. http://www.caguila.com/natoshort Cheers, Christine/Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
High Fashion HIjab
Some of the Muslim women in our area step out in style. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15758596 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
From: Theodore Beilby Yesterday the PSNWA had a model shoot in the Buffalo River area. We started out at Twin Falls, then went to a log barn. A few shots are questionable for work. This is not my normal type of work, so I was trying to get some current shutter time with portraits, etc. Besides, no need to state the obvious. Buffalo River Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/7234132610/in/set-72157629814495792/lightbox/ Bruce has already made a few comments, Thanks Bruce. I answered your question on the shots comments. Any other comments or critiques would be welcomed. Ted Fibonacci sequence! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The Good Neighbour
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/good-neighbour.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Digital Camera Utility update to v 4.35
So I'm replying to my own message. I just installed the update, It seems to render shadows a bit better, though I expect that based on the description updated library for reduction of tone jumping there may be a less posterized look in recovered highlights. System requirements as displayed on the page are bogus for XP and Win2K, both seem to work fine with only 1GB of ram and a single core processer running at 2.0 GHz . I expect that won't be the case with Vista and Win7 but that's mostly because those OS' are such resource hogs. If I find any other caveats I'll report them just in case anyone else cares. On 5/20/2012 9:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: has been released. I don't know if it really makes a difference in any way, and as usual I have a bit of trepidation about installing it because it might break the hacks I've done to get it to run on my creaking old desktop. However it's been released. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Digital Camera Utility update to v 4.35
Which model is it for? Jeffery Sent from my iPad On May 20, 2012, at 20:48, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm replying to my own message. I just installed the update, It seems to render shadows a bit better, though I expect that based on the description updated library for reduction of tone jumping there may be a less posterized look in recovered highlights. System requirements as displayed on the page are bogus for XP and Win2K, both seem to work fine with only 1GB of ram and a single core processer running at 2.0 GHz . I expect that won't be the case with Vista and Win7 but that's mostly because those OS' are such resource hogs. If I find any other caveats I'll report them just in case anyone else cares. On 5/20/2012 9:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: has been released. I don't know if it really makes a difference in any way, and as usual I have a bit of trepidation about installing it because it might break the hacks I've done to get it to run on my creaking old desktop. However it's been released. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Which lens. which lens?
Life is short, if we can't make fun of Canon shooters, especially out of context what can we do. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whichlenswhichlens.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?
He is so looking in the wrong direction. Jeffery Sent from my iPad On May 20, 2012, at 21:14, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Life is short, if we can't make fun of Canon shooters, especially out of context what can we do. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whichlenswhichlens.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Pointed Arch
Thanks, Mark! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Sent: May 19, 2012 5/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Pointed Arch On 5/18/2012 10:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: This caught my eye a little while ago: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/pointed-arch.html Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank Nice one - a door no more, a man in motion, great! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Alternation
I don't know if it's high art or not but I like it a lot. Wonderful repeating patterns work very well. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Alternation Not High Art--for some reason this amused me: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15727132 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring
That's quite a shot! The line of trees in the background frames it so nicely. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea. Here is a PESO: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html Be brutal and honest and usual. Thanks in advance. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Digital Camera Utility update to v 4.35
It covers everything except the Q. You need to have an Install CD or PDCU4 installed on your computer already for it to install, which is easy enough to do. If you don't have an earlier version of PDCU4 simply burn a CD with the label S-SW90 with the update file on it, and run the update from there. The camera utility works with all PEF files from every Pentax camera from the *ist-D to the 645D. The only one I don't think it works with is the Q which Pentax supplies with a cut down version of Silkypix. On 5/20/2012 10:01 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Which model is it for? Jeffery Sent from my iPad On May 20, 2012, at 20:48, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm replying to my own message. I just installed the update, It seems to render shadows a bit better, though I expect that based on the description updated library for reduction of tone jumping there may be a less posterized look in recovered highlights. System requirements as displayed on the page are bogus for XP and Win2K, both seem to work fine with only 1GB of ram and a single core processer running at 2.0 GHz . I expect that won't be the case with Vista and Win7 but that's mostly because those OS' are such resource hogs. If I find any other caveats I'll report them just in case anyone else cares. On 5/20/2012 9:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: has been released. I don't know if it really makes a difference in any way, and as usual I have a bit of trepidation about installing it because it might break the hacks I've done to get it to run on my creaking old desktop. However it's been released. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW123 - Movement
Don't know how I missed this one last week but it's a hell of a shot! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PAW123 - Movement Very late thanks Bob :-) Den 14. mai 2012 kl. 22:20 skrev Bob W: I like the sense of counter-movement of the heraldic lion, as if he's trying to resist. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 14 May 2012 21:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PAW123 - Movement http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1001-full.html K-5, DA*16-50mm@39mm, 1/60s, f/6.3, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
Paul, I very much appreciated your comments. I didn't use gaussian blur, I used the clarity slider in LR4. Bruce also asked about the softening. This is the first time I have used that control to soften, so I may have gotten a little heavy handed with it on some of these shots. I reduced it a little on 082 and also followed your suggestions on burning and exposure. I have updated the posts on Flickr with these changes. All post work on these shots was done with LR4. David and PJ, what can I say? Thanks all Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: High Fashion HIjab
Some hijabs are quite beautiful, as this one is. Very good photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: High Fashion HIjab Some of the Muslim women in our area step out in style. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15758596 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?
Heh! One can have the best camera in the world but if you miss the shot, you miss the shot. ;-) Nice one. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- Which lens. which lens? Life is short, if we can't make fun of Canon shooters, especially out of context what can we do. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whichlenswhichlens.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Digital Camera Utility update to v 4.35
Got it. Thanks! Jeffery Sent from my iPad On May 20, 2012, at 21:27, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It covers everything except the Q. You need to have an Install CD or PDCU4 installed on your computer already for it to install, which is easy enough to do. If you don't have an earlier version of PDCU4 simply burn a CD with the label S-SW90 with the update file on it, and run the update from there. The camera utility works with all PEF files from every Pentax camera from the *ist-D to the 645D. The only one I don't think it works with is the Q which Pentax supplies with a cut down version of Silkypix. On 5/20/2012 10:01 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Which model is it for? Jeffery Sent from my iPad On May 20, 2012, at 20:48, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm replying to my own message. I just installed the update, It seems to render shadows a bit better, though I expect that based on the description updated library for reduction of tone jumping there may be a less posterized look in recovered highlights. System requirements as displayed on the page are bogus for XP and Win2K, both seem to work fine with only 1GB of ram and a single core processer running at 2.0 GHz . I expect that won't be the case with Vista and Win7 but that's mostly because those OS' are such resource hogs. If I find any other caveats I'll report them just in case anyone else cares. On 5/20/2012 9:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: has been released. I don't know if it really makes a difference in any way, and as usual I have a bit of trepidation about installing it because it might break the hacks I've done to get it to run on my creaking old desktop. However it's been released. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Suggestions for online photo order-taking?
Fellow PDMLers, In a previous life I was a wedding/portrait photographer. It just about kicked the love of photography completely out of me, and I've been fortunate enough to mostly avoid it since this thing called internet came around. : ) However, in June I am going to do some family reunion photography for a friend which will consist of lots of various family groupings, etc. Since these people are getting together from all over the U.S. I'd like suggestions for an online way for them to preview the images and place orders. I know that services like this exist for real professional photographers, but this is not something that I want to pay for monthly into the indefinite future. Just sort of a one-off (hopefully). Does anyone know of something that might fit the bill? Thanks in advance. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
The nights are long and cold up in Stouffville... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Never has Dave made a more appropriate misspelling. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?
yeah but the better the camera, the less likely you are to miss the shot. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: PESO -- Which lens. which lens? Heh! One can have the best camera in the world but if you miss the shot, you miss the shot. ;-) Nice one. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- Which lens. which lens? Life is short, if we can't make fun of Canon shooters, especially out of context what can we do. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whichlenswhichlens.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
crummy eclipse photos
The only really dark filter I had was some #87 infrared filters that I bought for covering my flash when photographing IR. I put one of those over the front of the bigma, and added a 2x teleconverter. So, all I really got was a bunch of pink crescents. I played with the exposure and saturation a bit in lightroom and you can sort of see the progress of the moon across the sun: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629823781426/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: York PDML?
Ummm... Bob... it was a joke aimed at Scott (if he's lurking), because York is about 25 mi from his home in Harrisburg. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:10 PM Subject: RE: York PDML? Our travel plans are gradually turning from liquid phase to a gel, and we're going to be in York (as in UK, not Pennsylvania!*) 16-17 June. You've caught London, England Syndrome: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/brysons-america-were-going- to-dumb-down-the-american-way-1186816.html I'd love to get together with some PDMLers, if any are available. I'll try! B Cheers, Rick (*sorry Scott!) http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Today's Peace Rally
Too many good ones to pick favourites. Wonderful gallery. I really got a flavour of the event while going through them. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12 To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Today's Peace Rally Hi Everyone: Darrel I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, and I have to say, that part was kind of lame. The nurses' rally was so much more interesting and fun. But today the people watching was great, and everyone was really, really nice. The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian protestors, and a lot of funny signage. Skirmishes with the police have been reported. The Chicago Tribune has a very compelling gallery of photos if you're interested. Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for family hour, as it were. Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event. To be sure, I mainly went as spectator and photographer. http://www.caguila.com/natoshort Cheers, Christine/Chicago -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Alternation
It's as perspective corrected as LR could get it without looking distorted in new and terrible ways. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Alternation That's the kind of formalized imagery that needs to be perspective corrected. Then it might just be High Art. On 5/20/2012 11:33 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Not High Art--for some reason this amused me: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15727132 (K7, FA 24-90) Rick -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Buffalo River Model Shoot.
Ted, Bruce's comment on the last shot, This one seems a little underexposed to me, might have meant a completely different source of flash.. We won't go into discussing it was a grab and what/who was set for 1 stop under. ;-) Cheers, PS. I agree with Bruce: you've got some interesting portraits there. Sun May 20 17:50:20 EDT 2012 Theodore Beilby wrote: Yesterday the PSNWA had a model shoot in the Buffalo River area. We started out at Twin Falls, then went to a log barn. A few shots are questionable for work. This is not my normal type of work, so I was trying to get some current shutter time with portraits, etc. Besides, no need to state the obvious. Buffalo River Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/7234132610/in/set-72157629814495792/lightbox/ Bruce has already made a few comments, Thanks Bruce. I answered your question on the shots comments. Any other comments or critiques would be welcomed. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
Oh, that makes sense. So that if this new camera is mid-range model and the last one (K-5, K-01, this new thing) to use 16 MP sensor, then it will all sum up nicely. But if K-5 successor still uses this sensor, it is no good, methinks... But I digress - let's just wait and see. On 5/18/2012 10:56, Jaume Lahuerta wrote: I woud say that, after the 6mpix era, Pentax is using the same sensor in 2-3 bodies: 10 Mpix in K10D, K200D and K-m 12 Mpix in K-x and k-r 14 Mpix in K20D and K-7 16 Mpix in K-5 and K-30 (and k-01 but this is a different category for me). So it should be enough for this sensor... Regards, Jaume -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Suggestions for online photo order-taking?
Darren, I'd say you have two type of options: 1. you can have your own gallery that accepts the orders, or 2. you can have things posted to one of the photo sites that accepts orders for you. If you are planning on making money on those orders, the disadvantage of the latter one that in most cases such sites take a big cut for themselves. Zenfolio is partnered with Mpix.com that does prints. (I used Mpix for prints directly, and like them.) However, if all you want is to let people print their own photos without you profiting from that, sites like fotki.com, I believe allow that (or at least they used to.) For the option 1, one of LR plugins from TTG: http://shop.theturninggate.net/ might be a reasonable solution. I bought one of the TTG plugins (without client response), and I've been mostly happily using it for my galleries. HTH, Igor Sun May 20 22:37:26 EDT 2012 Darren Addy wrote: However, in June I am going to do some family reunion photography for a friend which will consist of lots of various family groupings, etc. Since these people are getting together from all over the U.S. I'd like suggestions for an online way for them to preview the images and place orders. I know that services like this exist for real professional photographers, but this is not something that I want to pay for monthly into the indefinite future. Just sort of a one-off (hopefully). Does anyone know of something that might fit the bill? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
On 5/18/2012 20:13, Bob Sullivan wrote: I believe that the engineer with a new toy is always thinking 'How could I sell a million of these?' I'm an engineer and I don't think like this, Bob. Instead I let to think so the marketing people in my company. Also the problem (in my eyes at least) here is that in terms of pixels there is only so much you can do with them. Few things come to mind - so if you have oh so many pixels you can: * crop them as you see fit and still get a decent picture * print really big enlargements * if you do virtual 3D, your worlds will be more zoomable in, in a manner of speaking That's about it. So the comparison with what Bill Gates said about PC RAM that someone here made looks invalid to me. PC RAM in particular and PC in general can do so much more so that adding RAM enables you to do great many various things. Various being the keyword here. As for pixels I am not so sure. Although I know that you're a car enthusiast, Bob, I still think that cars can be a valid analogy. If you live in NYC or Chicago or Tel Aviv for that matter, do you really absolutely certainly need the likes of modern sports cars? Is acceleration from 0 to 60 MPH in 5 sec going to be a decisive factor for you vs the car that does so in 10 sec. In theory it may serve you well if you need to accelerate to escape a predicament on the road (*). But in the big city such a situation is possibly improbable anyway. The smaller, more frugal or less polluting engine is an entirely different story, and even more so in the big cities... So MP count has to serve a purpose. And although in certain cases it does serve a purpose, it is unlikely to serve such a purpose for everyone uniformly. Hence I believe that there has to be enough pixels for 99% of the people out there, and 24 MP on APS-C sensor is just too many of them, little pesky pixels... Boris (*) It may be argued that if you get into such a situation or get close to it every now and then, you better not to drive at all or drive a slow car so as to force you to less aggressive driving. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
On 5/18/2012 18:19, Darren Addy wrote: Some of you in this discussion remind me of Bill Gates and his (in)famous (alleged) quote regarding computer RAM: 640K ought to be enough for anybody. Whether he actually said it or not is irrelevant to this discussion - I think with hindsight we'd all agree that anyone who might have said such a thing would have to be considered the opposite of visionary (not to mention REALITY). Similarly, thinking that a certain number of pixels on a sensor is enough and that anything else is simply driven by the marketing department (as if that department is irrelevant to a company's growth, let alone survival) is similarly the opposite of reality. Darren, I respectfully disagree with you. I wrote why in my response to Bob S in another message in the same thread. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Minimum Kit?
On 5/19/2012 03:59, John Sessoms wrote: If you were going to be restricted to 1 bag max wt 30 lbs, what would you carry as a minimum photographic kit? K-5 + FA 50/1.4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A legal question re a stolen photo of mine
On 5/19/2012 04:47, Miserere wrote: I'm glad EtL was of help to someone :-) I can't offer much advice beyond contact them and tell them what you want (money, image credit, image taken down, etc). I would always recommend communication as the first step. Cheers, Thanks, Miserere! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A legal question re a stolen photo of mine
On 5/20/2012 06:36, Mark C wrote: That should be - you don't know were the THEFT took place. Well, I do know but it is something that won't hold water in any dispute. You see, I used to publish my pics on not-contaxg (or was it non-contaxg?!) web site that few years ago got overthrown by hackers and was taken down. I can say so due to the specifics of the processing that this very version of this image has - I have processed it in several ways over the years... I still need to think how to move forward on this. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body
On 5/20/2012 01:31, Cotty wrote: My son is starting his photographic career with a 4MP camera. I'm sorry folks, it's nothing to do with MP, it's all to do with attitude and results. Well, up to certain extent I agree, Cotty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
