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Hi!

Another picture by my daughter Galia...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/08/peso-2012-34-marina.html

Boris

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PESO: Off they go

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GFM camera clinic

2012-08-11 Thread Cory Waters

Is anyone going this year?
Cory

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Re: PESO: Off they go

2012-08-11 Thread Kenneth Waller

The stuff along the bottom edge is distracting IMO.
A stronger image would be that nice arrangement of balloons all by itself.

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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion

2012-08-11 Thread Jack Davis

Nice dof and composition, Boris.

Jack Davis
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Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/08/peso-2012-33-fashion.html

Please be brutal and honest...

Thanks.

Boris

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Re: PESO: Off they go

Thanks, Ken.  I think you are probably correct.

In this frame, I was trying to include the iPad and cell phone being
used to capture the scene.  There were more photographers using those
devices at the festival than photographers uding DSLRs and compact
digital cameras combined.

Dan Matyola
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 The stuff along the bottom edge is distracting IMO.
 A stronger image would be that nice arrangement of balloons all by itself.

 -Original Message-
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Subject: PESO: Off they go

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Re: GFM camera clinic

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer


On 8/11/12 8:03 AM, Cory Waters wrote:

Is anyone going this year?
Cory



I'll be there. I'm looking forward to finally getting to meet David 
Simonton.


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Re: PESO 2012 - 067 - GDG

Excellent, Godfrey!


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   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/oh-to-be-a-child

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Re: PESO: Off they go

Dan,
I think Ken is right, stronger as just the balloons.
Or include more of the iphone/ipad photographers, down to their feet.
Then the photo becomes about them and the balloons.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Thanks, Ken.  I think you are probably correct.

 In this frame, I was trying to include the iPad and cell phone being
 used to capture the scene.  There were more photographers using those
 devices at the festival than photographers uding DSLRs and compact
 digital cameras combined.

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 The stuff along the bottom edge is distracting IMO.
 A stronger image would be that nice arrangement of balloons all by itself.

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Subject: PESO: Off they go

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Re: Galia Peso #34 - Marina

Boris,
Tell Galia that is a nice photo.
I especially appreciate that all the masts are vertical.
It's hard to get this right!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Another picture by my daughter Galia...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/08/peso-2012-34-marina.html

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Re: PESO: Off they go

Easy to say *now*, but I see a shot by crouching down near the guy
with the iPad and shooting upward so the horizon is not included.
You'd see just up-stretched arms holding phones, and balloons.

You'd have to be pushy and yet somehow not get noticed by Mr. iPad. :-)

Love your colourful balloon series, Dan.


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 Thanks, Ken.  I think you are probably correct.

 In this frame, I was trying to include the iPad and cell phone being
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 digital cameras combined.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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 The stuff along the bottom edge is distracting IMO.
 A stronger image would be that nice arrangement of balloons all by itself.

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Subject: PESO: Off they go

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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion

Boris,
That seems to be some sort of lobby sculpture or ornament.
It is an interesting piece, but not enough for a full picture.
I don't think this image stands alone without people or story to go with.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Please be brutal and honest...

 Thanks.

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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion

I agree with Bob. Sorry, Boris. :-)


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 Boris,
 That seems to be some sort of lobby sculpture or ornament.
 It is an interesting piece, but not enough for a full picture.
 I don't think this image stands alone without people or story to go with.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 Thanks.

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RE: Geso Model shoot 2

2012-08-11 Thread John Sessoms


From: Don Guthrie


Don't want to over stay my welcome but these are the good ones and the
last ones. ( I think Bruce will approve the lighting) If you don't have
a favorite guess which one is my pick.


https://www.icloud.com/journal/#3;CAEQARoQn8XTh-uXMpc7xwghEswdJg;12DFC34A-554B-4A49-828C-4EDD2CABA355


or complete set at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157631005977352/

slideshow

http://www.flickr.com//photos/valdon/sets/72157631005977352/show/


for those who have not been able to get thru to  ICLOUD try the flickr
links.


Thanks for looking.


I was able to see it on flickr.

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For sale, one day late - CZJ MC Flektogon 50/4 + Tilt adaptor


Hi!

Although I was quite excited about this buy some time ago, it is big, it 
is heavy and it requires manual focusing while my eyes are getting 
progressively weak :-(.


So, offering for sale - Carl Zeiss Jena MC Flektogon 50/4 with Tilt 
Adapter. Few points about this combo:


1. You get lens front cap, K-mount rear cap and Pentacon-6 (I recon it 
is originally Pentacon 6 lens) rear cap. I don't seem to find a front 
cap for the adapter as the lens came attached to it.


2. The piece of material that has the tilt angles on it is falling off. 
If you have proper glue you can easily glue it in place. Obviously it 
does not have any effect on the operations. By the way adapter goes up 
to 8 deg of tilt. You can rotate the tilted lens with clicks every 15 
deg of rotation.


3. The lens aperture (which as I was told is a weak part of these 
lenses) in perfect order - snappy without any signs of any trouble 
whatsoever.


4. The lens is free of dust except the space immediately after the front 
element. There is certain amount of dust that as I understand is the 
blackening coating of the inner side of the lens barrel. It does seem 
moderate and I did not find any issues with it.


5. Optically this lens is very good with surprising micro contrast and 
very pleasant rendering but given its huge front element you wouldn't 
want to shoot with light sources in front of you. Few times I noticed 
that the center part of the frame was brighter than the rest which I 
attribute to the reflections off the camera sensor.


6. Asking USD 300 plus shipping. I will absorb PayPal fees (about 5%). I 
can ship either EMS (which I'd prefer for its insurance and speed) or 
regular air mail. The latter is like USD 15 or even less but without 
tracking and insurance. Given rather heavy item, I expect EMS to cost 
order of USD 40.


Please contact me off list if you're interested and require more 
information/shots about/of/by this lens.


Thanks.

Boris

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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion


On 8/11/2012 9:15 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Maybe some more contrast?  I think there’s a fine picture in there
struggling to get out... -T


Thanks, Tim. I think struggling is the right word here...


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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion


On 8/11/2012 3:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Nice dof and composition, Boris.


Thanks, Jack.


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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion


Thank you, Bob and Bruce. No need to apologize really.

On 8/11/2012 6:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I agree with Bob. Sorry, Boris. :-)


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Boris,
That seems to be some sort of lobby sculpture or ornament.
It is an interesting piece, but not enough for a full picture.
I don't think this image stands alone without people or story to go with.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/08/peso-2012-33-fashion.html

Please be brutal and honest...

Thanks.

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Re: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-11 Thread Walt Gilbert


Thanks, Kenneth.

I figured it was somewhere in that neighborhood, but it's good to have 
confirmation.


-- Walt

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FWIW, we use 1/2 cup sugar to 2 cups water -

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com
Subject: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12


This little guy appears to being growing accustomed to my presence 
near the feeder. It won't be long before I can park myself right 
under it and get some great close-ups. There are others who visit the 
yard, so I'm considering getting another feeder or two.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157630955110246/

Taken with my K20D fitted with the Promaster 70-300 f/4-5.6

And, yes, I've been told not to use the nectar with the red dye, so 
I'll go to plain simple syrup when this nectar runs out. I just 
assumed that, being labeled as hummingbird nectar it was OK to use 
for hummingbird nectar.


Comments and suggestions welcome as always!

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Re: August PUG

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 I finally had a chance to go through PUG tonight and I must say, it's 
 spectacular!

 I really can't pick a favourite; as I scrolled through it was just photo 
 after amazing photo.

 Great stuff!

 I will say though, Best Title/Worst Title goes to Bruce. The Gulls in the 
 Band? Ouch!

 ;-)

 Cheers,
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Re: GESO: Hummingbird - 8/7/12

2012-08-11 Thread Walt Gilbert


On 8/10/2012 7:40 PM, Mark C wrote:

On 8/7/2012 11:42 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
This little guy appears to being growing accustomed to my presence 
near the feeder. It won't be long before I can park myself right 
under it and get some great close-ups. There are others who visit the 
yard, so I'm considering getting another feeder or two.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157630955110246/

Taken with my K20D fitted with the Promaster 70-300 f/4-5.6

And, yes, I've been told not to use the nectar with the red dye, so 
I'll go to plain simple syrup when this nectar runs out. I just 
assumed that, being labeled as hummingbird nectar it was OK to use 
for hummingbird nectar.


Comments and suggestions welcome as always!

-- Walt


Fine shots there, Walt.

Mark C.


Thank you, Mark.

I'm hoping to get more hummingbird shots this week, before they all skip 
town and head south. I've seen a ruby-throated one that I want to get, 
but the one in the photos I have here seems to have chased it away. I 
haven't seen it in a couple of weeks, or more.


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Re: PESO: Off they go

I agree with Ken. I notice all of the photographers have iPads and PS
cameras pointing to thesky and looking at the LED screens. No view
finders, sad.

Dave

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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion

Very nice. I like the variety of subjects and the reflections in the balls

Dave

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Re: PESO 2012 - 067 - GDG

Well done

Dave

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Re: PESO This'll be

2012-08-11 Thread Walt Gilbert


On 8/10/2012 1:54 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

This set of photos is one reason I was almost late getting to UPS to send Colin 
the cambro.  I went out to the shed to get some packing supplies and the light 
on some flowers caught my eye, so I had to grab my camera.

I'm actually dithering between two different crops of this shot.
This:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7751302004/

or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7751301498/

For them that want to see more garden variety macros:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630997748366/

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

Damn fine shot, Larry!

I think I like the first crop a little better, but taken on their own, 
they're both pretty great.


In any event, it's always nice when critters agree to hang around where 
the light is good, isn't it?


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Re: GFM camera clinic

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 Is anyone going this year?
 Cory


 I'll be there. I'm looking forward to finally getting to meet David
 Simonton.

I'm pretty sure Bruce Wayne will be upset at that.

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Re: GFM camera clinic

No but i want to. Our start up meetimg is on the 17th and its a must
attend. No way i could get there in time.

Dave

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Is anyone going this year?
 Cory

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Re: Creativity vs. gear?

Reply interspersed.

On 8/9/2012 8:13 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

It has been said many times that abundance of equipment can suppress
the [necessity for] creativity. Or, maybe the opposite is correct:
lack of proper equipments boosts up the creativity.

IMO - neither. You see, Igor, equipment is a tool, creativity is a state
of mind (or even state of soul, if I may be so creative to put it this
way :-) ). Consider this - in general people don't fly. Yet they take
wonderful landscape photos. But if people could fly as easily as they
walk, they might have been able to make even better landscape photos. Or
may be not.

This guy, shooting Olympics with iPhones, has been feature in many
news/blogs:
http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2012/08/covering-the-olympics-with-three-iphones-and-some-binoculars/

Or see it with all photos at once:
http://www.wired.com/rawfile/2012/08/covering-the-olympics-with-three-iphones-and-some-binoculars/?pid=3287viewall=true
Short link: http://goo.gl/bl2Qv

This person is excellent photographer. So, for him the gear is so much a
tool that he knows how to get the best of it given his creative
photographic idea. The tool does not pose a limit for him.

Of course, the fact that you have your top-notch DSLR doesn't forbid all
this creativity. But it doesn't stimulate it either.

Whenever you learn your gear and get to know its limitations by heart
then you become creative within these limits. So if one such person buys
a new lens for a time being their creativity expands only to become
again limited when they hit what they perceive as gear limits.

That is, if (like me for example) one is driven by one's gear, then
one's creativity lives within gear's domain, so to speak.

If one's truly creative, one can do things that people like me couldn't
possibly dream about although the gear we use may be very similar if not
the same.

I still remember a lady with whom I worked between 1998 and 2000. At the
time she was shooting with simplest film PS camera, but boy, her photos
were exciting and most enjoyable to look at.

The question remains open, - does too much gear hinder your creativity?
What do you think?

Yes and no. If you're driven by your gear, then yes (see above). If you
consider your gear a mere tool, then probably you're more creative to
start with.

PS. My wife made a suggestion for the actual reason why this photographer
decided to use 3 iPhones instead of his 3 (5? 10?) DSLRs:
their office ran out of ponies that carry the heavy photo bags. So, he had
to carry his gear by himself.

Indeed. I find it much more convenient to lug Ricoh GXR with 50 mm
(EFL) lens module than any of my DSLRs. As of recently I have come to
realize that I value size and portability far more than alleged and
probably theoretical anyway (for me, that is) image quality. Ricoh GXR
gives me excellent quality that I dare say may surpass my Pentax gear
under certain circumstances (modulo this very photographer). So most
certainly your wife, Igor, has a most valid point.

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Re: Creativity vs. gear?


On 8/9/2012 5:55 PM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote:

Do I think too much gear hinders creativity?

To be honest I have no idea. Because who's to say how much is too
much? And who's to say which is more creative; to apply the tool with
the best specs for a particular job, or to get surprisingly good
results with a less prestigious tool?


May I please emphasize prestigious here? Very often that's quite a 
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On 8/9/2012 9:07 PM, Bob W wrote:

It's not how much gear you have that matters, but how much it costs. That's
why all Leica photographers are so damned good.

B


Indeed. Every time they take their cameras and lenses out of their bags, 
they are reminded of the gear cost, so they curse ever so gently and 
force themselves to take absolutely stunning photographs...




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RE: Roman Melihhov Photography: baby butterfly...

2012-08-11 Thread John Sessoms


From: Roman Melihhov


http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/218/category/33

^^^ DA* 50-135mm, Pentax K-5 street portraits...


That's cute.

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Re: Boris PESO #33 - Fashion


Thanks, Dave!

On 8/11/2012 6:36 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Very nice. I like the variety of subjects and the reflections in the balls

Dave

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2012/08/peso-2012-33-fashion.html

Please be brutal and honest...

Thanks.

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Re: PESO - A view to Lofoten


Well, I hate you :-).

On 7/23/2012 11:30 PM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote:

Apologies for posting a bloglink only, but I haven't figured out how to extract 
a direct image link from my cellphone browser yet.

  http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/07/a-view-to-lofoten.html

Jostein




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Re: Latemacrocategory submission

Damn, I hate those things.  Fly all over your house and eat the
teaspoons.  I do pest control with an old Remington.

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now you are perpetuating a stereotype ! Aliens are not bugs and Sir, that
 picture is obviously an alien being from Mars or some such place. But he
 does take a nice picture




 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 6
 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 17:49:02 +
 From: Collin Brendemuehlcoll...@brendemuehl.net
 To: pdmlpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Latemacrocategory submission
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



 http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/7741194924/in/photostream/lightbox/

 Found this bug that I just couldn't resist.

 Sincerely,

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Re: PESO: Off they go

thanks, Bob
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On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 I think Ken is right, stronger as just the balloons.
 Or include more of the iphone/ipad photographers, down to their feet.
 Then the photo becomes about them and the balloons.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks, Ken.  I think you are probably correct.

 In this frame, I was trying to include the iPad and cell phone being
 used to capture the scene.  There were more photographers using those
 devices at the festival than photographers uding DSLRs and compact
 digital cameras combined.

 Dan Matyola
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 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 The stuff along the bottom edge is distracting IMO.
 A stronger image would be that nice arrangement of balloons all by itself.

 -Original Message-
From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO: Off they go

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16195123
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Re: PESO: Off they go

Thanks, Bruce and David.
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 I agree with Ken. I notice all of the photographers have iPads and PS
 cameras pointing to thesky and looking at the LED screens. No view
 finders, sad.

 Dave

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RE: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

2012-08-11 Thread Bob W

The one about forces is well worth watching, and includes a bonus for you of
featuring some bloke who designs Canadian bikes. 

Most importantly, it explains why it's always uphill, into a headwind, and
raining hard whenever I go for a spin. 

But it's encouraging to know that with the right clothing and helmet I could
achieve the same speeds as Cavendish (70 mph on a flat road). I've already
achieved over half of that once, when I entered some sort of crease in
space-time and found myself going downhill on a sunny day with the wind at
my back. Or maybe it was all just a dream.

B

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 So far I've only watched the video on The Hour; very interesting stuff!
 Amazing that 28 years after Merckx got the record it was bested by
 Boardman by a mere ten metres (in the athletes hour). Goes to show
 how amazing Eddy's record was, especially when one considers how much
 training techniques and science have developed in that time span.
 
 Also consider that Merckx did his hour after his back injury. He always
 said he was never the same after the accident and felt that be could
 have gone farther in his hour were he not plagued with back pain.
 
 At some point I'll have to go look at Vickie's thighs. Until then I'll
 have to (again) congratulate you Brits on ~owning~ the road and
 especially the velodrome at the Olympics. Most impressive!
 
 Nice to see Kenny come out of Hoy's shadow (and beat a monster like
 Bauge no less!). And I was thrilled to see Sir Chris win one more gold
 in the keirin.
 
 Great stuff!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. --
 Christopher Hitchens
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Sent: August 10, 2012 8/10/12
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World
 
 I am a member of the CTC (Cyclists' Touring Club), who send me a weekly
 newsletter email. In this week's they have included a piece with some
 links about what lies behind Victoria Pendleton, which some of the Hoy-
 polloi on the list might find interesting:
 
 http://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/engineering-
 and-tech
 nology/the-science-behind-the-bike?
 
 B
 
 
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Re: GFM camera clinic

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer


On 8/11/12 11:37 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com  wrote:

On 8/11/12 8:03 AM, Cory Waters wrote:


Is anyone going this year?
Cory



I'll be there. I'm looking forward to finally getting to meet David
Simonton.


I'm pretty sure Bruce Wayne will be upset at that.

DAVE


I'm not quite following you here.

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Re: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

It's all because you use a Leica, Bob.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 The one about forces is well worth watching, and includes a bonus for you of
 featuring some bloke who designs Canadian bikes.

 Most importantly, it explains why it's always uphill, into a headwind, and
 raining hard whenever I go for a spin.

 But it's encouraging to know that with the right clothing and helmet I could
 achieve the same speeds as Cavendish (70 mph on a flat road). I've already
 achieved over half of that once, when I entered some sort of crease in
 space-time and found myself going downhill on a sunny day with the wind at
 my back. Or maybe it was all just a dream.

 B

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com

 So far I've only watched the video on The Hour; very interesting stuff!
 Amazing that 28 years after Merckx got the record it was bested by
 Boardman by a mere ten metres (in the athletes hour). Goes to show
 how amazing Eddy's record was, especially when one considers how much
 training techniques and science have developed in that time span.

 Also consider that Merckx did his hour after his back injury. He always
 said he was never the same after the accident and felt that be could
 have gone farther in his hour were he not plagued with back pain.

 At some point I'll have to go look at Vickie's thighs. Until then I'll
 have to (again) congratulate you Brits on ~owning~ the road and
 especially the velodrome at the Olympics. Most impressive!

 Nice to see Kenny come out of Hoy's shadow (and beat a monster like
 Bauge no less!). And I was thrilled to see Sir Chris win one more gold
 in the keirin.

 Great stuff!

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. --
 Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Sent: August 10, 2012 8/10/12
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

 I am a member of the CTC (Cyclists' Touring Club), who send me a weekly
 newsletter email. In this week's they have included a piece with some
 links about what lies behind Victoria Pendleton, which some of the Hoy-
 polloi on the list might find interesting:

 http://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/engineering-
 and-tech
 nology/the-science-behind-the-bike?

 B


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Peso: The White Towers

I went to my hometown last week to visit my family.  I hadn't been
home in about 4 years, and I while walking through the park I got a
good view of some new construction:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-bmxVGWm/0/XL/towers-XL.jpg

I'm about 3 miles away.

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Peso: The Rose

On a nicer note, I took many walks and there are many yards bedecked in flowers:

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Re: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-11 Thread Walter Hamler

Is that Three Mile Is, PA ?

Walt

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Re: Peso: The White Towers

Nope.  Fall River, Mass.  That's a coal-fired power plant.  The hot
water they were releasing into the river was harming the fish, so they
built cooling towers like  aNuclear plant.  It's essentially a
self-contained system.  As funny as it is, those towers make the plant
a bit more green.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is that Three Mile Is, PA ?

 Walt

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 home in about 4 years, and I while walking through the park I got a
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Re: Peso: For the Catophobes

Cute pup.
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 Some have expressed mild distaste for my cat photos.  For those folks,
 here is manly dog image:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-XR6fMgg/0/L/lacey-L.jpg

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RE: Peso: The White Towers

2012-08-11 Thread Bob W

It's a cloud factory!

B

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steven Desjardins
 
 I went to my hometown last week to visit my family.  I hadn't been home
 in about 4 years, and I while walking through the park I got a good
 view of some new construction:
 
 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-bmxVGWm/0/XL/towers-
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Re: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

2012-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 I am a member of the CTC (Cyclists' Touring Club), who send me a weekly
 newsletter email. In this week's they have included a piece with some links
 about what lies behind Victoria Pendleton, which some of the Hoy-polloi on
 the list might find interesting:

 http://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/engineering-and-tech
 nology/the-science-behind-the-bike?

Great set of videos! Thanks for posting them.

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Re: OT: British thighs are the Envy of the World

2012-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 .. Most importantly, it explains why it's always uphill, into a headwind, and
 raining hard whenever I go for a spin.

 But it's encouraging to know that with the right clothing and helmet I could
 achieve the same speeds as Cavendish (70 mph on a flat road). I've already
 achieved over half of that once, when I entered some sort of crease in
 space-time and found myself going downhill on a sunny day with the wind at
 my back. Or maybe it was all just a dream.

There are worse dreams to have ... ;-)
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Re: Roman Melihhov Photography: baby butterfly...

It's a diva look to go with the diva paint job.  Nice shot.

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 From: Roman Melihhov


 http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/218/category/33

 ^^^ DA* 50-135mm, Pentax K-5 street portraits...


 That's cute.


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PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-11 Thread Larry Colen

Technically, I completely blew this shot.  It was ISO 16,000, and in the low 
light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is even 
remotely in focus.  So  I cranked up clarity, contrast, vibrance etc.  and came 
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762232744/

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Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

That's a quite interesting effect

Dan Matyola
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 Technically, I completely blew this shot.  It was ISO 16,000, and in the low 
 light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is even 
 remotely in focus.  So  I cranked up clarity, contrast, vibrance etc.  and 
 came up with this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762232744/

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PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-11 Thread frank theriault

Don't ask me what I was doing on a deserted Lakeshore at 1 a.m. on a
rainy night.

Okay, ask.  Taking photos, I guess.

That's my answer, and I'm sticking to it:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/08/lakeshore-boulevard-1-am.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Soloist

2012-08-11 Thread frank theriault

Thanks, Dan, and thanks to everyone else who commented.

Those are beautiful bikes.  Hard to take a bad pic of one.

;-)

cheers,
frank

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 Very nice, Frank!  I like the geometry of your image.
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Detail of a Cervelo Soloist:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/08/soloist.html

 I know I've said it before, but Cervelos are made in Toronto and are
 one of the top high-end bikes in the world.  They are the current
 mount of the American Garmin team which is always very competitive in
 the Tour de France.  Canada's Ryder Hesjedal (crashed in the Tour) won
 this year's Giro d'Italia on one.

 I thought this one looked pretty (but since it had just come back from
 a ride - note the dirt on the bottom bracket, bottom left) still
 looked like a real used bike.

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

2012-08-11 Thread Rick Womer

Well, it's a really nice shot--just enough human presence to give it scale 
without distraction.  I like it.

Rick
 
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Subject: PESO - Lakeshore Boulevard, 1 a.m.

Don't ask me what I was doing on a deserted Lakeshore at 1 a.m. on a
rainy night.

Okay, ask.  Taking photos, I guess.

That's my answer, and I'm sticking to it:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/08/lakeshore-boulevard-1-am.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

Yeah, it's a pretty neat shot.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a quite interesting effect

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Technically, I completely blew this shot.  It was ISO 16,000, and in the low 
 light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is even 
 remotely in focus.  So  I cranked up clarity, contrast, vibrance etc.  and 
 came up with this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762232744/

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Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-11 Thread Larry Colen


On Aug 11, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Yeah, it's a pretty neat shot.

Thanks.  It's kind of cool what you can get when you screw up, and then pretend 
that's what you meant to do.

 
 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 That's a quite interesting effect
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Technically, I completely blew this shot.  It was ISO 16,000, and in the 
 low light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is 
 even remotely in focus.  So  I cranked up clarity, contrast, vibrance etc.  
 and came up with this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762232744/
 
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Re: PESO - Arches

2012-08-11 Thread Rick Womer

Thanks, Mark!

Rick
 
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On 8/2/2012 9:17 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 Outside the chapter house at Chester Cathedral:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162878size=lg

 (K5, DA 16-45)

  
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW

Great shot - excellent repetition of the patterns there.

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Re: PESO Out of focus and lots of noise

2012-08-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com

Reminds me of what Louis Armstrong (who didn't like bebop) said of bebop: If 
you make a mistake, repeat it twice and call it improvisation. (paraphrased)

Whether intended or not that's a really good photo!

cheers,
frank 

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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On Aug 11, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Yeah, it's a pretty neat shot.

Thanks.  It's kind of cool what you can get when you screw up, and then pretend 
that's what you meant to do.

 
 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 That's a quite interesting effect
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Technically, I completely blew this shot.  It was ISO 16,000, and in the 
 low light I completely blew the focus, absolutely nothing in the frame is 
 even remotely in focus.  So  I cranked up clarity, contrast, vibrance etc.  
 and came up with this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7762232744/
 
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