Re: K-5 IIs - I'm impressed (PESO - tango)
On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. The k7 autofocus was comparable to that of the K5, so it sounds like your k5 II is considerably better then either. The engineering emphasis was reportedly on low light focusing, so your experience is in sync with that. Looking forward to your take on daylight autofocus. This is good news. I was photographing some dancers at Dickens Fair yesterday, and while it didn't seem like low light to me, I was having a tough time with focus. The dances were waltz, polka and other victorian dances where they dancers move a lot more, and faster, than they do in blues, lindy, or most of the time in tango. The improved autofocus in the IIs would be even better news if I could afford one. Paul On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I've got a chance of shooting with the new K-5 IIs over the weekend at a tango festival. This means two things: low light and motion. I am impressed! I haven't tried Nikon D800 or D4, but I would truly compare the experience to that I had with D700 in 2010 in a similar setting. Since it's been more than 1.5 years ago, I don't remember all the details, so, I am not sure if the AF performance was comparable or had more missed shots. One can say that D700 is more than 2 years old. It is quite possible that D800 (and quite likely D4) exceeds K-5 IIs in the capabilities, but those are in a different category price-wise and size/weight-wise. My impression is that the image quality (noise, DR etc.) of the D800 is about the same as the D700, it just has a lot better resolution. I haven't tried the original K-5, so, I cannot compare the AF performance. But, the AF is greatly improved compared to K-7. And the low light performance is definitely greatly improved over K-7. ISO-3200 is good (exceeds ISO-1600 and almost close to ISO-800 of K-7), ISO-6400 is usable, and even ISO-12800 is acceptable at the level which is probably better than ISO-3200 of K-7. Here is just one example at ISO-3200: http://42graphy.org/misc/tango_IR00058.jpg (slight LR processing, including very slight NR). Excellent shot. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yes, but then he tried to pass the raven off as a crow! My apologies. It seems that I'm not the only one to make this mistake: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens I had always thought that ravens were quite a bit larger than the birds I've been seeing around here. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Larry, I agree with Ken on this..Joe You captured great detail in the Raven. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO Beverage Puns: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632147595351/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT #Phonar
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-20495489 A new approach to teaching photography? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - S
I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT #Phonar
Very interesting stuff. Thanks, Mike! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:04 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-20495489 A new approach to teaching photography? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 IIs - I'm impressed (PESO - tango)
That's just such a great shot, Igor. Well done! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I've got a chance of shooting with the new K-5 IIs over the weekend at a tango festival. This means two things: low light and motion. I am impressed! I haven't tried Nikon D800 or D4, but I would truly compare the experience to that I had with D700 in 2010 in a similar setting. Since it's been more than 1.5 years ago, I don't remember all the details, so, I am not sure if the AF performance was comparable or had more missed shots. One can say that D700 is more than 2 years old. It is quite possible that D800 (and quite likely D4) exceeds K-5 IIs in the capabilities, but those are in a different category price-wise and size/weight-wise. I haven't tried the original K-5, so, I cannot compare the AF performance. But, the AF is greatly improved compared to K-7. And the low light performance is definitely greatly improved over K-7. ISO-3200 is good (exceeds ISO-1600 and almost close to ISO-800 of K-7), ISO-6400 is usable, and even ISO-12800 is acceptable at the level which is probably better than ISO-3200 of K-7. Here is just one example at ISO-3200: http://42graphy.org/misc/tango_IR00058.jpg (slight LR processing, including very slight NR). Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-mount 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.2
Don't bother with the f/1.2. It is nice and all but price/performance is totally unacceptable. Kris, I have to disagree with you on this, at least in regards to IQ. I have 3 copies of the Pentax 50/1.2 lenses and while they are a bit dreamy wide open, when stopped down a bit they are very good - as good as or better than my Pentax 50/1.4 lenses, especially when considering rendering. As to cost, no argument there - they are very pricey today. They are beautifully made examples of the lensmakers' art from the era before plastic fantastic became the order of the day, and as a collector I'm glad to have them. Of course YMMV... Regards, Jim I knew I was going to get in trouble with the f/1.2 crowd :) Here is the original email I replied to: My 50mm f/1.7 is my favourite lens, but I'd love to try a 1.4 or even a 1.2, for the extra light. Daniele Let me rehash my point. The 50 f/1.2 is nice. Very nice. But they are only manual focus and you wouldn't be able to casually focus it at f/1.2 in low light anyway. Unless your eyesight, hand-eye coordination and viewfinder precision are well above average and/or you use static targets. And if sharp-ish eyes and blurry nose/ears is your thing or you are not going to use it at f/1.2 at tight portrait distances. The going rate for the FA50 is less than half of the various 50/1.2. You get a little more real extra light over the f/1.7 and autofocus for that. I would get the FA50/1.4 right away if my f/1.7 wasn't autofocus or if I had a buyer for it. I never made any comments about 50/1.2 being inferior to other 50s at f/4 or anything to that effect. I said it was nice, what more do you want? :) It is, however, a specialty lens with an appropriate price tag. The reaction from the non-photographer members of my family when showing them kids pictures made at f/1.2 has always been This is nice and all, but if only you had used a real lens, we would have decent pictures now. Yes, apparently I aim to start a holy f/1.2 war here. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 9:00 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -bmw Yes, the pose, composition and level of viewer involvement with that gaze are awesome but I too have a problem with the arm. Didn't even notice it at first, though, went straight to the eyes. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
Might check your monitor calibration? On my calibrated IMac there is plenty of separation and it looks really great. Walt On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 9:00 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-mount 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.2
I had a Pentax 50mm f1.2 briefly and was not impressed. Dreamy wide open is the *nice* way to put it. Saying that it is great stopped down seems a little silly when one can have that same stopped down performance on a f1.4 just as easily for a lot less money (and you can bring the f1.7 into that discussion as well for less than 20% of the price of the f1.2). I only have experience with one data point (copy of the lens), so it is probably silly to draw firm conclusions, but for my money a f1.2 lens is like owning a Rolex. It impresses people and maybe even oneself, but I'd rather use the funds that the f1.2 brings on the open market to purchase something that extends my photographic possibilities in other ways. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
That is on the to-do list for tomorrow, only received it on Monday. Will be tapping Bruce for some of his skills on calibration. Of course it could be my old eyes as well. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Walter Hamler Sent: December 4, 2012 9:44 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - S Might check your monitor calibration? On my calibrated IMac there is plenty of separation and it looks really great. Walt On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 9:00 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
Might check your monitor calibration? On my calibrated IMac there is plenty of separation and it looks really great. Walt Hmm, true, this will teach me not to comment on pictures based on what I see on the work monitor. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Thinking about a collaborative photo project for the next year
Kris, It's an interesting idea, but way too intense a schedule. Rick Probably. One way I am going to make this easier on all the participants is that you can submit pictures for future dates and you don't have a tight 24h deadline for submitting your versions on the current dates. You could easily take a month off or work only on weekends if you submit a few pictures in advance. I don't see this as an exercise in technical perfection or a contest, rather as a game. I have a picture before me, what do I see in it? What do others see in it? You can aim for some consistency but you will probably fail unless you replicate all the scenes with Q-tips or cats or something. Definitely not a quest for a single good picture a day that would fit the set criteria. More likely an ongoing experiment in perseverance. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red Roof
Dave, After the 'quakes, aren't all your buildings crooked? :-) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:07 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful tree, crooked building... Nothing wrong with crooked buildings :) (I'm still waiting for the photo to load... photo.net strikes again!) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
I too lose definition in the area of her left shoulder. Also troubling is the featureless dress. Like the pose. Jack From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:00 AM Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Thinking about a collaborative photo project for the next year
I'd join you, but I did a couple of years' worth of daily photo (-blogging), and I'm not yet ready to jump back in the fray. But, I highly recommend it - the somewhat daily photo project, that is - it was definitely a creative workout, good skill builder, and meditation. I know it may not be your aim, but, especially when the kids are young, incorporating them into the process as subjects is very rewarding. The best part of the two years of daily photos is the photo journal of their/our lives that resulted. Now, I have teenagers, and I couldn't get away with that sort of thing... Best of luck! :) -c On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Kris, It's an interesting idea, but way too intense a schedule. Rick Probably. One way I am going to make this easier on all the participants is that you can submit pictures for future dates and you don't have a tight 24h deadline for submitting your versions on the current dates. You could easily take a month off or work only on weekends if you submit a few pictures in advance. I don't see this as an exercise in technical perfection or a contest, rather as a game. I have a picture before me, what do I see in it? What do others see in it? You can aim for some consistency but you will probably fail unless you replicate all the scenes with Q-tips or cats or something. Definitely not a quest for a single good picture a day that would fit the set criteria. More likely an ongoing experiment in perseverance. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 IIs - I'm impressed (PESO - tango)
Thanks to all who looked. My responses to several messages are assembled and interspersed below. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Here is just one example at ISO-3200: http://42graphy.org/misc/tango_IR00058.jpg (slight LR processing, including very slight NR). --- Mon Dec 3 21:39:52 EST 2012 Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. The k7 autofocus was comparable to that of the K5, so it sounds like your k5 II is considerably better then either. The engineering emphasis was reportedly on low light focusing, so your experience is in sync with that. Looking forward to your take on daylight autofocus. Paul, Thank you. I hope I am not imagining the AF improvements I've seen. I am definitely impressed by the ISO. --- Mon Dec 3 23:19:53 EST 2012 knarftheriault at gmail.com wrote: That's a ~great~ picture! cheers, frank I appreciate you being FRANK about it. :-) --- Tue Dec 4 09:06:09 EST 2012 Bruce Walker wrote: That's just such a great shot, Igor. Well done! Thank you, Bruce! --- Mon Dec 3 23:22:16 EST 2012 Jack Davis wrote: I've decided the moire I was seeing is the screen texture. Never mind! Jack: No, there is no moire. --- Tue Dec 4 00:04:40 EST 2012 Boris Liberman wrote: Igor, few points... 1. I've had both K-7 and K-5. I even thought that K-7's AF was ever so slightly better to that of K-5 although it appeared that my opinion was contrary to the common view on the matter. I thought that my K-7 was ever so slightly more decisive in low light while my K-5 was just a bit more accurate. I might be imagining it... My impression is completely subjective, and I haven't done any measurements, whatsover. It just seemed to me that the AF was ready by the time I was ready to shoot. (Larry, - this comment is relevant to what your hopes are.) 2. I humbly suggest that you (and we along the way) revisit your impressions after a month of medium to heavy use. Often initial impressions fade and are replaced by more experienced ones, simply because of the variety of shooting situations that you would have experienced. But of course! :-) 3. In terms of low light IQ - K-5 (and its derivatives) are probably second to none on the market right now except big boys such as Nikon D800 which is entirely different price league and stuff... That's exactly my point. And not just price league, but also size league. D4 is huge, compared to K-5IIs. Actually, one great improvement over K-7 was a larger dynamic range at high ISOs. 4. I've had a chance to shoot with D700 for quite a bit - including one wedding where I was just playing with someone else's camera. D700 beats crap out of K-5. But it has to be 24-70/2.8 top of the lines Nikkor and rather dim light for crap to start getting beaten out of... Otherwise, K-5 is pretty darn fine. I've tried it in combination with Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G ED AF-S, Nikon 85mm f/1.4D AF Nikkor Lens , Nikkor 70-200mm VR II f/2.8G, ED, AF-S, and Nikkor 16-85mm VR f/3.5-5.6, AF-S IIRC, 24-70 and 85 were those I used the most. The quality was great. But I decided not to go that route for the size and the weight of the camera. Not everything was ideal this weekend. But I think I've got very close this past weekend with K-5IIs + 50-135/2.8 and 77/1.8. I was missing a bit on the wide end, as my 17-70/4 is good for the flash work but it is a bit too slow for the low light without flash. I don't have brand loyalty. Evidently, I have a typical for many buyers desire to confirm for myself that I made the right decision on buying this camera. In my case, this can create a bi-modal bias: 1. positive, and 2. overly sensitive to any little glitch. At this point I haven't had much of #2, even though not everything is ideal. I had quiet a few misses.[*] Having said that, even though I knew Pentax menues better, it took me more effort to set things to where I wanted them to be, compared to the same with D700. Finally, it is very fine photograph and you nailed it in terms of focus accuracy, exposure, etc... Thank you. I am glad you've gotten a great new photographic instrument now - I hope to see more of your pictures... It is not the instrumentation that limits the amount of pictures developed and displayed, but the time available. [*] About misses I had. 1. Focusing in 11-segment AF mode was sometimes choosing the wrong object. Switching to the center-point AF helped. 2. Some shots had focus that is good but not perfect. I am not sure if this was the effect of motion of the subjects, motion blur from hand-holding the camera, or the AF error. I don't jump in claiming the latter. 3. A few streaks of lu.. totally off-the-wall AWB choices. For several shots in a row, the camera was choosing a completely wrong WB when set to AWB. E.g. it went extremely yellow in, I suspect, incandescent, light. I had seen it once or twice
Re: Re: The Red Curtain, Message-ID:
Thanks Rick, if I ever need a shot like that I will consider it. Thanks also to Joe and Bruce for commenting. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:52:38 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: The Red Curtain Message-ID: 1354575158.22623.yahoomail...@web121805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I like it! You could try straightening it a bit and cropping out the clapboard wall and second window. ?Then it would look as though the building was sticking out its tongue. Rick ? http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com To:pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 4:08 PM Subject: The Red Curtain Once the fall leaves have dropped and blown away, it is difficult to find some color against the drab November skies. This rebellious curtain fights the good fight in a city walk-up apartment. Comments opinions always welcomed http://donspix.posterous.com/the-red-curtain-a-bit-of-color-against-the-ur-36732 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Winter's Coming
From: Mark Roberts knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: It's getting colder so the competition is on for the prime sidewalk warming grates. The sleeping bags are new; this is the time of year the charities distribute them. By spring they'll very filthy. But now they're still brightly coloured and shiny: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/12/winters-coming.html?m=0 I don't know how these guys survive winter. I guess some of them don't. Great shot, Frank. Somehow, the Do not block intersection sign really contributes to the image (though part of me wishes it weren't so close to the top of the frame; I'm guessing you shot this as a horizontal and cropped to square - maybe cropping a bit more off the bottom and left might help?) You're quite right to do it in color, IMHO. Remember how The Wizard of Oz depicted Kansas in BW nut showed Oz in color, intending to contrast bleak reality with pretty fantasy? Now we regard color as more realistic (rightly so, I think) and BW as more abstract. I always thought the last part when Dorothy got back home to Kansas should have been in color. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Audio Stuff
on 2012-12-03 21:53 J.C. O'Connell wrote well, here in the USA, full size TOSLINK is the defacto standard for digital audio optical connections, not mini. mini is rare. not quite rare when it's been on every Apple computer for the last several years; some other computer brands use it too (HP, Dell ...); it's handy that one jack can serve analog and digital, and the adapters are cheap -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-mount 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.2
on 2012-12-02 14:27 Daniele Procida wrote My 50mm f/1.7 is my favourite lens, but I'd love to try a 1.4 or even a 1.2, for the extra light. i'm no connoisseur, and for me the f/1.7 is the sweet spot, the practical choice, producing excellent images and easily replaced if necessary; it is said that the 1.7 has a flatter field than 1.4 as well i have had an M/1.4 and an A/2.0, never seen the 1.2; the 2.0 seemed less sharp; i didn't perceive a practical difference between 1.4 and 1.7; i like bokeh but i don't spend a lot of effort on it, and 1.7 is already shallower depth of field than i usually want; it was harder to focus the 1.4, so i had to use DOF preview more; the f/1.2 sounds like a pain i do think the future of low-light manual focusing is EVF; even with the grainy EVF on a Panasonic GH2 i'm surprised how useful it is in low light; if i were pursuing artistic video effects i might enjoy the 1.2 on the Panny -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. If that's typical of the items on your todo list, stop neglecting it right this moment! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW152 - Triangle
I like it. :) Toine On 3 December 2012 23:25, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA*55mm, f/2.5, 1/100s, ISO800. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO
There seems to be a difference here between proper British use, and sloppy, undisciplined American. The British are, as usual, correct: http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/families/crows.aspx B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 04 December 2012 09:34 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yes, but then he tried to pass the raven off as a crow! My apologies. It seems that I'm not the only one to make this mistake: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens I had always thought that ravens were quite a bit larger than the birds I've been seeing around here. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Larry, I agree with Ken on this..Joe You captured great detail in the Raven. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO Beverage Puns: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632147595351/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - A few shots from the US GP in Austin
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:45:38PM -0500, John Francis wrote: Mind you, COTA is the best of the modern tracks by a long way, IMO. And we had perfect weather, and a great race with actual racing on track, and only a couple of miner mechanical incidents. It was even possible to get reasonable shots from our grandstand (albeit limited to just a single viewpoint, of course), and the track policy limiting lenses to at most 10 in length (quite generous, from what I've seen) meant that the 60-250 was no problem (and 150mm-200mm was what was needed for a single-car shot with a sightline above the fencing). Pictures will follow at some point, but at the moment I'm moving to a new computer (so I can run LR4), and taking this as an opportunity to review the way I organise my images. Given my slight tendency to procrastinate I have no idea when I'll be set up to process the shots. As promised (or threatened :-), here are a few images from the weekend. Despite being limited to essentially just a single viewpoint (and with internal reflections from the 60-250 showing up in a couple of the shots) I did come home with some images I'm happy with. I haven't got LR set up yet, so these are just preliminaries (using Camera Raw in PS Elements). Probably the best shot I got overall. The guy didn't win the race, or the championship (although he was still in contention for both), but that doesn't matter to the Ferrari faithful: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Alonso.jpg Here's the guy who did win the race: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Hamilton.jpg And here's the guy who won his third straight championship a week later: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Vettel.jpg This was the last-but-one race for the most successful F1 driver ever: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Schumacher.jpg And this is the guy my wife and I were waving the flag for: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Button.jpg All shots taken with the K-5 and the 60-250. At this point on the circuit the cars are going around 150 - 160 MPH, so at a shutter speed of 1/320 or so there's enough motion blur to show up in the background (assuming I get the pan right; if I don't, then the car doesn't look sharp) - the car moves around 8 during the exposure. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: 35 reasons to have children
Someone sent it to me, so I'm sending it to y'all. http://www.buzzfeed.com/stephiekate/35-reasons-to-have-children-7xwj -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO
Larry, http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens, confirms that your capture is a raven - the heavy bill and glossy pointed neck feathers in the 4th image on the link are identical to those of the one you captured. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 4:33 AM Subject: Re: GESO On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yes, but then he tried to pass the raven off as a crow! My apologies. It seems that I'm not the only one to make this mistake: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens I had always thought that ravens were quite a bit larger than the birds I've been seeing around here. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Larry, I agree with Ken on this..Joe You captured great detail in the Raven. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO Beverage Puns: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632147595351/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO
Whatever, it's a big black bird and I get the joke. ;-) That's a fun set, Larry, but as beer drinker who rarely drinks the hard stuff several of.them had to be explained. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: December 4, 2012 12/4/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yes, but then he tried to pass the raven off as a crow! My apologies. It seems that I'm not the only one to make this mistake: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens I had always thought that ravens were quite a bit larger than the birds I've been seeing around here. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Larry, I agree with Ken on this..Joe You captured great detail in the Raven. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO Beverage Puns: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632147595351/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PAW152 - Triangle
Wonderful! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sent: December 3, 2012 12/3/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW152 - Triangle http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA*55mm, f/2.5, 1/100s, ISO800. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Winter's Coming
The sign is right at the edge of the frame so I can't put any air around it. I'll try the crop as you suggest and see how it looks. Although bw is my usual default I didn't even try it this time. I would have lost the impact of the sleeping bags in monochrome imho. Don't know about the fantasy/reality switch over the years but what you say makes sense. I just look at each shot individually and think how what I am trying to say (or portray) can best be expressed (with an admitted bias toward black and white). ;-) Thanks for the comment. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: December 3, 2012 12/3/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Winter's Coming knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: It's getting colder so the competition is on for the prime sidewalk warming grates. The sleeping bags are new; this is the time of year the charities distribute them. By spring they'll very filthy. But now they're still brightly coloured and shiny: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/12/winters-coming.html?m=0 I don't know how these guys survive winter. I guess some of them don't. Great shot, Frank. Somehow, the Do not block intersection sign really contributes to the image (though part of me wishes it weren't so close to the top of the frame; I'm guessing you shot this as a horizontal and cropped to square - maybe cropping a bit more off the bottom and left might help?) You're quite right to do it in color, IMHO. Remember how The Wizard of Oz depicted Kansas in BW nut showed Oz in color, intending to contrast bleak reality with pretty fantasy? Now we regard color as more realistic (rightly so, I think) and BW as more abstract. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
Beautiful, aptly titled and perfectly rendered. Like a great deal! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: December 4, 2012 12/4/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 IIs - I'm impressed (PESO - tango)
Igor, I've been very happy with my K-5. I said to my wife just last week that I was completely satisfied with my photo gear, and didn't want anything new. So, if you make me want a K-5II or IIs I will have to hate you. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: K-5 IIs - I'm impressed (PESO - tango) Thanks to all who looked. My responses to several messages are assembled and interspersed below. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Here is just one example at ISO-3200: http://42graphy.org/misc/tango_IR00058.jpg (slight LR processing, including very slight NR). --- Mon Dec 3 21:39:52 EST 2012 Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. The k7 autofocus was comparable to that of the K5, so it sounds like your k5 II is considerably better then either. The engineering emphasis was reportedly on low light focusing, so your experience is in sync with that. Looking forward to your take on daylight autofocus. Paul, Thank you. I hope I am not imagining the AF improvements I've seen. I am definitely impressed by the ISO. --- Mon Dec 3 23:19:53 EST 2012 knarftheriault at gmail.com wrote: That's a ~great~ picture! cheers, frank I appreciate you being FRANK about it. :-) --- Tue Dec 4 09:06:09 EST 2012 Bruce Walker wrote: That's just such a great shot, Igor. Well done! Thank you, Bruce! --- Mon Dec 3 23:22:16 EST 2012 Jack Davis wrote: I've decided the moire I was seeing is the screen texture. Never mind! Jack: No, there is no moire. --- Tue Dec 4 00:04:40 EST 2012 Boris Liberman wrote: Igor, few points... 1. I've had both K-7 and K-5. I even thought that K-7's AF was ever so slightly better to that of K-5 although it appeared that my opinion was contrary to the common view on the matter. I thought that my K-7 was ever so slightly more decisive in low light while my K-5 was just a bit more accurate. I might be imagining it... My impression is completely subjective, and I haven't done any measurements, whatsover. It just seemed to me that the AF was ready by the time I was ready to shoot. (Larry, - this comment is relevant to what your hopes are.) 2. I humbly suggest that you (and we along the way) revisit your impressions after a month of medium to heavy use. Often initial impressions fade and are replaced by more experienced ones, simply because of the variety of shooting situations that you would have experienced. But of course! :-) 3. In terms of low light IQ - K-5 (and its derivatives) are probably second to none on the market right now except big boys such as Nikon D800 which is entirely different price league and stuff... That's exactly my point. And not just price league, but also size league. D4 is huge, compared to K-5IIs. Actually, one great improvement over K-7 was a larger dynamic range at high ISOs. 4. I've had a chance to shoot with D700 for quite a bit - including one wedding where I was just playing with someone else's camera. D700 beats crap out of K-5. But it has to be 24-70/2.8 top of the lines Nikkor and rather dim light for crap to start getting beaten out of... Otherwise, K-5 is pretty darn fine. I've tried it in combination with Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G ED AF-S, Nikon 85mm f/1.4D AF Nikkor Lens , Nikkor 70-200mm VR II f/2.8G, ED, AF-S, and Nikkor 16-85mm VR f/3.5-5.6, AF-S IIRC, 24-70 and 85 were those I used the most. The quality was great. But I decided not to go that route for the size and the weight of the camera. Not everything was ideal this weekend. But I think I've got very close this past weekend with K-5IIs + 50-135/2.8 and 77/1.8. I was missing a bit on the wide end, as my 17-70/4 is good for the flash work but it is a bit too slow for the low light without flash. I don't have brand loyalty. Evidently, I have a typical for many buyers desire to confirm for myself that I made the right decision on buying this camera. In my case, this can create a bi-modal bias: 1. positive, and 2. overly sensitive to any little glitch. At this point I haven't had much of #2, even though not everything is ideal. I had quiet a few misses.[*] Having said that, even though I knew Pentax menues better, it took me more effort to set things to where I wanted them to be, compared to the same with D700. Finally, it is very fine photograph and you nailed it in terms of focus accuracy, exposure, etc... Thank you. I am glad you've gotten a great new photographic instrument now - I hope to see more of your pictures... It is not the instrumentation that limits the amount of pictures developed and displayed, but the time available. [*] About misses I had. 1. Focusing in 11-segment AF mode was sometimes choosing the wrong object. Switching to the center-point AF helped. 2. Some shots
RE: K-mount 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.2
Krisjanis Linkevics Tue, 04 Dec 2012 06:20:18 -0800: Let me rehash my point. The 50 f/1.2 is nice. Very nice. But they are only manual focus and you wouldn't be able to casually focus it at f/1.2 in low light anyway. Unless your eyesight, hand-eye coordination and viewfinder precision are well above average and/or you use static targets. And if sharp-ish eyes and blurry nose/ears is your thing or you are not going to use it at f/1.2 at tight portrait distances. Granted. The 50/1.2 is not an easy lens to master - but there are images where the narrow DOF and creamy OOF areas are desirable and worth the effort IMO. However, the low-light advantage is very slim and not of much value given the excellent high-ISO performance of today's DSLRs The going rate for the FA50 is less than half of the various 50/1.2. You get a little more real extra light over the f/1.7 and autofocus for that. I would get the FA50/1.4 right away if my f/1.7 wasn't autofocus or if I had a buyer for it. If it is an either/or choice I would agree. But some of us are fortunate enough to be able to afford both; granted, the OP is probably not be in that position. I never made any comments about 50/1.2 being inferior to other 50s at f/4 or anything to that effect. I said it was nice, what more do you want? :) It is, however, a specialty lens with an appropriate price tag. I felt that you were damning the 50/1.2 with faint praise and wanted to make it plain that this lens has its own special virtues (at least in my eyes). If this was not your intent, I'm sorry I jumped to that conclusion. Yes, it's a specialty lens and some (perhaps most) will not be attracted to what it has to offer. However, I find it that it has its charms. As I concluded in my earlier reply, YMMV... The reaction from the non-photographer members of my family when showing them kids pictures made at f/1.2 has always been This is nice and all, but if only you had used a real lens, we would have decent pictures now. Yes, apparently I aim to start a holy f/1.2 war here. No war, just a difference in opinion based on a different scale of values. ;) Regards, Jim It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. - Voltaire -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO
On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:19 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever, it's a big black bird and I get the joke. ;-) That's a fun set, Larry, but as beer drinker who rarely drinks the hard stuff several of.them had to be explained. Don't worry Frank, not getting my humor puts you in good company. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-mount 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.2
No experience with the Pentax 50/1.2 here. I have a Nikkor 50mm f/1.2 AI-S (manual focus) lens, however, and find it a piece of cake to focus with both my Nikon F (A screen with split image rangefinder) and with the Olympus E-1 (matte fresnel focusing screen, about the same magnification and brightness focusing screen as a Pentax *ist DS or K10D). I have worn glasses since I was in third grade and have plenty of issues with eyesight deterioration through floaters, etc, at my advanced age today (lol!), but I can still focus this lens critically. I don't really know what everyone's difficulty is ... fast lenses are easier to focus than slower lenses because the viewfinder is brighter and the focus zone is shallower, you can see the in-out focus transition happen much more clearly. The same lens fitted to the Ricoh GXR-M with an adapter works very well and focuses crisply, both with and without the GXR's implementation of focus peaking ... Used with focus peaking, you have to learn what the focus peaking display is telling you. It's not exactly the same thing as looking at image sharpness on a ground glass field or in an EVF. Manual focusing simply takes some practice. I've been practicing at it for 50+ years now... :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
Jack, I've been studying a lot of BW studio work lately. Here I was going for an almost abstract look -- outlines, areas of (almost) solid tones, skin pale, hair dark, etc. So I cranked the whites way up and the darks way down, leaving the midtones almost empty. There _is_ definition in the lights and darks but you have to look very closely, and have a calibrated IPS display too. :-) I intend to print this image to get the full effect. I expect to have to to a few runs to get it right as it probably pushes the paper/ink abilities. For more subject definition you may prefer the original colour rendition ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8245838556/lightbox/ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I too lose definition in the area of her left shoulder. Also troubling is the featureless dress. Like the pose. Jack From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:00 AM Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
Basically, yeah, the faint tonal differences are intentional. But my first cut had more separation; the version you saw had been tweaked to push the whites right up close to 100% which flattened the tone curve near the top. I backed that off and restored the original version once again, so have a look at it now. It's subtle, but the outline of her arm is visible. As I said to Jack, you need you monitor to be well calibrated as I push the tones at both ends of the scale, without blowing them out. And here's the tonally less extreme colour version ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8245838556/lightbox/ Thanks! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 9:00 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
Thanks, Walt! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: Might check your monitor calibration? On my calibrated IMac there is plenty of separation and it looks really great. Walt On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 9:00 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
Workin' on it! :-) On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. If that's typical of the items on your todo list, stop neglecting it right this moment! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -bmw Yes, the pose, composition and level of viewer involvement with that gaze are awesome but I too have a problem with the arm. Didn't even notice it at first, though, went straight to the eyes. Thanks, Kris. Please also see my comments to Gerrit and Jack. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
Thank you, Frank! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful, aptly titled and perfectly rendered. Like a great deal! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: December 4, 2012 12/4/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Dickens Fair at the Cow Palace
If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area and are looking for a fun photo opportunity, check out the Dickens Fair at the Cow Palace, weekends between now and Christmas. Some notes however: The lighting is absolutely horrible, especially in Fezziwigs (where they have the social dancing). It's lit by yellow and reddish gelled spots, unevenly in both intensity and color. I shot available light and processing the photos was a pain. If I make it again this year, I'm going to use my flash with a CTO gel, so that the background isn't a totally different color balance than the foreground. I started out photographing at Fezziwigs with the 16-50, and on most of the floor, the lens was just too slow, and in Tav the camera pushed the ISO so hard that even the K-5 had issues. I was really wishing I had a K5-II, my K-5 what having a really rough time focusing on the dancers. At Dark Gardens, the obvious temptation is to photograph the ladies in corsets posing in the windows. I found it more fun to get photos of people looking at the window displays. Particularly the young kids. As with many street fair type events, it is a wonderful opportunity for street photography, but I spent most of my time dancing with pretty women, only venturing out to the rest of fair during set breaks. 17 photos from Sunday that sucked less than the rest: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632169833923/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
I prefer the BW version, it seems more absolute or binary. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 6:33 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - S Jack, I've been studying a lot of BW studio work lately. Here I was going for an almost abstract look -- outlines, areas of (almost) solid tones, skin pale, hair dark, etc. So I cranked the whites way up and the darks way down, leaving the midtones almost empty. There _is_ definition in the lights and darks but you have to look very closely, and have a calibrated IPS display too. :-) I intend to print this image to get the full effect. I expect to have to to a few runs to get it right as it probably pushes the paper/ink abilities. For more subject definition you may prefer the original colour rendition ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8245838556/lightbox/ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I too lose definition in the area of her left shoulder. Also troubling is the featureless dress. Like the pose. Jack From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:00 AM Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - S
I did see the subtle difference but for some reason I was drawn there which was probably not your intention. Well, I better get the thing calibrated soon then :-) Then I might post a few adjusted photos myself. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 6:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - S Basically, yeah, the faint tonal differences are intentional. But my first cut had more separation; the version you saw had been tweaked to push the whites right up close to 100% which flattened the tone curve near the top. I backed that off and restored the original version once again, so have a look at it now. It's subtle, but the outline of her arm is visible. As I said to Jack, you need you monitor to be well calibrated as I push the tones at both ends of the scale, without blowing them out. And here's the tonally less extreme colour version ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8245838556/lightbox/ Thanks! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: Great pose. Looks great on my new monitor :-) Did you decide not to add bit more distinction between left arm and the background? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 4, 2012 9:00 AM To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
I believe, due to contrast, I prefer the color. Skin tone and exposure are especially well handled. The bit of reveled detail in the dress is subtle but effective. Thanks for your intent info. Jack From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: PESO - S Jack, I've been studying a lot of BW studio work lately. Here I was going for an almost abstract look -- outlines, areas of (almost) solid tones, skin pale, hair dark, etc. So I cranked the whites way up and the darks way down, leaving the midtones almost empty. There _is_ definition in the lights and darks but you have to look very closely, and have a calibrated IPS display too. :-) I intend to print this image to get the full effect. I expect to have to to a few runs to get it right as it probably pushes the paper/ink abilities. For more subject definition you may prefer the original colour rendition ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8245838556/lightbox/ On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I too lose definition in the area of her left shoulder. Also troubling is the featureless dress. Like the pose. Jack From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:00 AM Subject: PESO - S I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo to Jigsaw?
No one answered, so I'll try one repost. In a message dated 12/3/2012 8:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eactiv...@aol.com writes: Oddly enough my email provider objects to over 5,000 unread emails sitting in my inbox, so I don't think I'll be catching up by reading the last four months of PDML posts (it was over 10,000). Sheesh!, guys. So, for an art project I have in mind I am thinking of making a jigsaw out of photo. Thinking of using this place, http://www.puzzleyou.com/?tc=gagclid=CM7V4f3jo7ICFUjhQgodrCAASA Anybody ever do the photo/jigsaw thing? How did it go? Marnie aka Doe :-) At least my email provider doesn't just cut me off though, the way Doug used to. Though I admit I sort of miss the yelling. Heh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo to Jigsaw?
I'm interested in jigsaws from pix, too, so I hope someone here has some experience to report. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 9:03 PM Subject: Re: Photo to Jigsaw? No one answered, so I'll try one repost. In a message dated 12/3/2012 8:36:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eactiv...@aol.com writes: Oddly enough my email provider objects to over 5,000 unread emails sitting in my inbox, so I don't think I'll be catching up by reading the last four months of PDML posts (it was over 10,000). Sheesh!, guys. So, for an art project I have in mind I am thinking of making a jigsaw out of photo. Thinking of using this place, http://www.puzzleyou.com/?tc=gagclid=CM7V4f3jo7ICFUjhQgodrCAASA Anybody ever do the photo/jigsaw thing? How did it go? Marnie aka Doe :-) At least my email provider doesn't just cut me off though, the way Doug used to. Though I admit I sort of miss the yelling. Heh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO
So, the Tower of London is guarded by crows? I don't think so. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: There seems to be a difference here between proper British use, and sloppy, undisciplined American. The British are, as usual, correct: http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/families/crows.aspx B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 04 December 2012 09:34 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yes, but then he tried to pass the raven off as a crow! My apologies. It seems that I'm not the only one to make this mistake: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens I had always thought that ravens were quite a bit larger than the birds I've been seeing around here. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Larry, I agree with Ken on this..Joe You captured great detail in the Raven. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO Beverage Puns: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632147595351/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Advice on Use of Macro Lens
After all the great advice I received from this list on selecting a Macro lens for my K-r (and future K-5), I made my decision. I decided to go old school -- and cheap. I found a used smc Pentax FA 100mm 1:2-8 Macro for $338 including shipping. It is certainly well built (and heavy). So far, I've only played around with it, taking some test images hand-held. So far, It looks really good. The problem: I went online to Pentax to download the manual, but they no longer carry it. Does anyone know where I can get one. The reason I need the manual is the lens has two controls that I don't really understand. They are visible in the right half of this image: http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/pentax_100_28_fa/lens.jpg . From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Maybe the old cameras didn't have the easy selection between AF and MF? Maybe it just disables the drive altogether from the lens side. Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? When you get the focus dialed on on the subject, assuming you are using a tripod, you clamp the focus so that it doesn't change if you touch the lens. Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
Dan, 1. Get the image in macro focus as you want and CLAMP it down so it doesn't creep out of focus. 2. I've never used it, but limiter stops that annoying behavior of hunting from infinity to minimum focus for the right spot. And really old school is the A100/2.8 Macro... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: After all the great advice I received from this list on selecting a Macro lens for my K-r (and future K-5), I made my decision. I decided to go old school -- and cheap. I found a used smc Pentax FA 100mm 1:2-8 Macro for $338 including shipping. It is certainly well built (and heavy). So far, I've only played around with it, taking some test images hand-held. So far, It looks really good. The problem: I went online to Pentax to download the manual, but they no longer carry it. Does anyone know where I can get one. The reason I need the manual is the lens has two controls that I don't really understand. They are visible in the right half of this image: http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/pentax_100_28_fa/lens.jpg . From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
the clamp is for Manual Focus mode to stop focus creep when you are eg, holding the camera lens down. The limit is for AF mode to stop the lens hunting all the way through the focal length to try and focus. I think the AF/MF setting overrides the camera's control but I am awy from home so can't look at the lens. I almost always have the lens in MF mode, since I almost never using AF for macro shots. This is by far my favourite lens - great for macro of course and also for portraits but it will show all the wrinkles and spots on your subject! If you want some example shots see for example https://picasaweb.google.com/101251999616543812992/WoolCarderBee#5430979153996617218 Alastair On 5 December 2012 16:00, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Dec 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Maybe the old cameras didn't have the easy selection between AF and MF? Maybe it just disables the drive altogether from the lens side. Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? When you get the focus dialed on on the subject, assuming you are using a tripod, you clamp the focus so that it doesn't change if you touch the lens. Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
For the most part, autofocus doesn't work well for macro. You're better off focusing manually, particularly when shooting off a tripod. You'll have to do that often with macro to get enough depth of field. Or when shooting handheld, use autofocus to get close, clamp the focus, then move the camera to fine tune focus. Paul On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: After all the great advice I received from this list on selecting a Macro lens for my K-r (and future K-5), I made my decision. I decided to go old school -- and cheap. I found a used smc Pentax FA 100mm 1:2-8 Macro for $338 including shipping. It is certainly well built (and heavy). So far, I've only played around with it, taking some test images hand-held. So far, It looks really good. The problem: I went online to Pentax to download the manual, but they no longer carry it. Does anyone know where I can get one. The reason I need the manual is the lens has two controls that I don't really understand. They are visible in the right half of this image: http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/pentax_100_28_fa/lens.jpg . From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Justin (messenger content)
Have to admit, I kind of like this one: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/justin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Justin (messenger content)
Great posture, great shadows. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Have to admit, I kind of like this one: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/justin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Always the Clown (messenger content)
Thanks, Joe, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: jn289 jn...@verizon.net Sent: December 3, 2012 12/3/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Always the Clown (messenger content) Frank, NOT BAD, Joe Taking a street portrait of Craig, Jason had to stick his nose in, but the result is, I think, kind of fun: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/12/always-clown.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: The Red Curtain
O! I like that! (don't know why, but I do...) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com Sent: December 3, 2012 12/3/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: The Red Curtain Once the fall leaves have dropped and blown away, it is difficult to find some color against the drab November skies. This rebellious curtain fights the good fight in a city walk-up apartment. Comments opinions always welcomed http://donspix.posterous.com/the-red-curtain-a-bit-of-color-against-the-ur-36732 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
If you are using auto-focus, then you may want to have it search from infinity to the front of the lens (Full Range) or you may want the AF engine to work only on finding focus within the immediate neighborhood of the front of the lens (Limit). Presumably if you are manual focusing you won't be trying to find focus across the full range, so you tell the lens you are in MF and it lets you figure out what to do from there. As Larry said, the Clamp is to lock to achieved focus in place. IIRC, it mechanically brakes movement of the lens elements. stan On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: After all the great advice I received from this list on selecting a Macro lens for my K-r (and future K-5), I made my decision. I decided to go old school -- and cheap. I found a used smc Pentax FA 100mm 1:2-8 Macro for $338 including shipping. It is certainly well built (and heavy). So far, I've only played around with it, taking some test images hand-held. So far, It looks really good. The problem: I went online to Pentax to download the manual, but they no longer carry it. Does anyone know where I can get one. The reason I need the manual is the lens has two controls that I don't really understand. They are visible in the right half of this image: http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/pentax_100_28_fa/lens.jpg . From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Justin (messenger content)
Doesn't do as much for me as some, especially those in motion. But I like his pose on the bike, like it is a part of him. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) --- In a message dated 12/4/2012 7:42:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Have to admit, I kind of like this one: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/justin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Freeway!
Taken, in 2012, near me in me in Pinole, CA, where there is a very nice convergence of these things. Probably come up with a GESO eventually. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/freeway.html Comments, as always, tolerated and even welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Hmmm, at 600 pixels, may still be a little long for some. Is 580 or 590 better? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Flat, red wet
Very nice. Like the monochromicatiness of it. Hmmm, not a word, but I am sure you get me. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 11/3/2012 10:40:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tb...@textuality.com writes: I think this will be my only autumn-leaves shot this year: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/11/03/-big/IMG_0299.jpg.html Had to turn the color saturation down to make it look more realistic. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO
-Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J. Matyola Sent: 05 December 2012 02:28 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO So, the Tower of London is guarded by crows? I don't think so. Dan Matyola yes, it is, because ravens are a type of crow. What I pointed out below, which the RSPB backs up, is that in British English 'crow' is a family name, and ravens are a type of crow. If American English has things differently, so be it. Incidentally, the Latin word corvus, which is the genus name for all these things in the Linnean system, is raven in English, so in that sense all crows are ravens. Wikipedia seems to take the same view as the RSPB, namely Crows /kroʊ/ form the genus Corvus in the family Corvidae. Ranging in size from the relatively small pigeon-size jackdaws (Eurasian and Daurian) to the Common Raven of the Holarctic region and Thick-billed Raven of the highlands of Ethiopia This crow-espondence is now crowsed. B http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: There seems to be a difference here between proper British use, and sloppy, undisciplined American. The British are, as usual, correct: http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/families/crows.aspx B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: 04 December 2012 09:34 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Yes, but then he tried to pass the raven off as a crow! My apologies. It seems that I'm not the only one to make this mistake: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/crows_and_ravens I had always thought that ravens were quite a bit larger than the birds I've been seeing around here. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote: Larry, I agree with Ken on this..Joe You captured great detail in the Raven. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: GESO Beverage Puns: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632147595351 / -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Dickens Fair at the Cow Palace
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen If you are in the San Francisco Bay Area and are looking for a fun photo opportunity, check out the Dickens Fair at the Cow Palace, weekends between now and Christmas. [...] As with many street fair type events, it is a wonderful opportunity for street photography, but I spent most of my time dancing with pretty women, only venturing out to the rest of fair during set breaks. 17 photos from Sunday that sucked less than the rest: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632169833923/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpYNPgL70ZM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
Hi, I like this lens too, though the hunting did annoy me. I've changed over to the smaller WR version for most of my current work. The controls do this: Clamp: as stated by others stops the lens from moving when pointing it down (or up). It puts a drag on auto focus which will lock it anyway. Use it if you need to, I normally left it off. Limit: reduces hunt by locking the lens to the macro or non macro focus range. I can't remember actually using it. MF: Turns the lens into a manual focus lens as far as the camera is concerned. This means you can use the Trap in focus feature where the camera is set to autofocus (the lens in manual) and keeping the shutter button depressed the camera will fire when it gets autofocus confirmation. I played with it a couple of times, but found that to get the best depth of field I needed to manually focus anyway. It's a very nice lens. Have fun. Leon On 5 December 2012 13:48, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: After all the great advice I received from this list on selecting a Macro lens for my K-r (and future K-5), I made my decision. I decided to go old school -- and cheap. I found a used smc Pentax FA 100mm 1:2-8 Macro for $338 including shipping. It is certainly well built (and heavy). So far, I've only played around with it, taking some test images hand-held. So far, It looks really good. The problem: I went online to Pentax to download the manual, but they no longer carry it. Does anyone know where I can get one. The reason I need the manual is the lens has two controls that I don't really understand. They are visible in the right half of this image: http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/pentax_100_28_fa/lens.jpg . From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Advice on Use of Macro Lens
sorry to say it, but this lens sounds like an ergonomic nightmare. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Advice on Use of Macro Lens If you are using auto-focus, then you may want to have it search from infinity to the front of the lens (Full Range) or you may want the AF engine to work only on finding focus within the immediate neighborhood of the front of the lens (Limit). Presumably if you are manual focusing you won't be trying to find focus across the full range, so you tell the lens you are in MF and it lets you figure out what to do from there. As Larry said, the Clamp is to lock to achieved focus in place. IIRC, it mechanically brakes movement of the lens elements. stan On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: After all the great advice I received from this list on selecting a Macro lens for my K-r (and future K-5), I made my decision. I decided to go old school -- and cheap. I found a used smc Pentax FA 100mm 1:2-8 Macro for $338 including shipping. It is certainly well built (and heavy). So far, I've only played around with it, taking some test images hand-held. So far, It looks really good. The problem: I went online to Pentax to download the manual, but they no longer carry it. Does anyone know where I can get one. The reason I need the manual is the lens has two controls that I don't really understand. They are visible in the right half of this image: http://www.photozone.de/images/8Reviews/lenses/pentax_100_28_fa/lens.jpg . From the reviews, I understand that the lens hunts a lot in autofocus mode. The focus range control apparently alleviates that problem, by limiting the rage of focus. I am not clear, however, how to use the control. Also, why does this control have an MF setting, when manual focus is usually selected on the camera. Is there a difference between selecting manual focus on the lens rather than on the camera? Even more mysterious -- to me -- is the clamp dial. What does this do, and how? Any information or advice will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
