Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 Bob -
 
 The Next and Previous links are just above the price list.  They're not 
 real obvious...

I was about to make the same comment, and eventually found the previous and 
next buttons.  I am used to gallery software  that has the next and previous 
buttons placed in much more obvious locations, usually to the left and right of 
the image.  Sometimes arrows that show up when you mouse over the image, which 
are actually on the image.

 There are some nice photos in there. There are also a bunch that seem overly 
HDR'd for my taste. 
I do appreciate the level of detail you went into describing each of the cars.  
Allow me to step into my role as Mr. Pot, and comment that photographically, it 
would work a lot better as a much smaller gallery.  As an exhibition of the 
cars in the museum however, it is quite cool, though I'd probably appreciate it 
more as several smaller thematic galleries, possibly by age of the cars.


 
 -p
 
 On 12/17/2012 10:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Jeffery,
 This gallery set-up sucks.
 I can see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
 And no link to the next image.
 I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again 52 times.
 Sorry for the frank commentary...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.
 
 The Lane  Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in Nashville,
 Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
 United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on average
 150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on display
 
 The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The majority of
 the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they do have some
 from the 20's and as current as 2000.
 
 Here is a link to the gallery:
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739
 
 --
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Re: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

 A bit naff, but it's Pentax...
 
 http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html

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Re: Huh! One of my images...

2012-12-18 Thread Jostein Øksne
Missed your PESO. Glad I got to see it now. A well deserved honour and cup 
of coffee. :-)

Jostein
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Subject: Huh! One of my images...



...was selected as the Thread of the Week/Featured Thread on the
Fred Miranda Forums. I submitted a handful of images to the various
categories there and my previous PESO: A Road Less Traveled is the
one that got the most attention. I'm rather pleased, as they seem to
have some pretty darn good images/photographers over there. Wonder how
often a Pentax shot gets selected? :)

http://www.fredmiranda.com/
^ showing it was selected

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1173155
^ direct link to the thread

Best part? This honor  a buck-and-a-half will get me a cup of coffee
at McDonalds (except that I gave up caffeine about 5 weeks ago).

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Re: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-18 Thread Jostein Øksne

Powerful shot.
The buildings manage to be imposing despite the perspective reclination. 
That's no small feat, imo!


Jostein
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Subject: PESO - Tyn Church



Prague's Tyn (Teen) Church, from the rear:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16674895

Comments appreciated!

Rick



P.S. to Boris: This one was way magenta as originally posted; most of the 
shift seems to have occurred in the transfer. This one is adjusted. Thanks 
for the heads-up.


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PESO: Street photos

2012-12-18 Thread SV Hovland
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140034authkey=!ABa-Ib4-orvXh-A

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140035authkey=!AEJN8CR066lYfOQ


Stig Vidar Hovland

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Re: PESO - The Filmmaker

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Gerrit.


On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just enough colour in the first one to give it a bit of a kick. You get the
 impression that he is already thinking of the next project.

 Gerrit

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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 Sent: December 17, 2012 4:12 PM
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 Subject: PESO - The Filmmaker

 My wife has been pursuing a creative project interviewing Canadian indie
 filmmakers about their projects and lives. I've been tagging along to help
 (lighting, grip, sometimes DP) and to get stills of the subjects.

 I have enough decent shots from these outings now that I've decided to make
 my own series: The Filmmakers. Here's the latest:

 Jeffrey W. Pike
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8278639503/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/2.5, 1/320th, ISO 400.
 Lr 4.2, PS CS5.
 160-LED video light from camera-rt for fill.

 And bonus bw shot:
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8279699032/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/3.2, 1/320th, ISO 200.
 Nik Silver Efex Pro 2


 Bonus short movie: if you like creepy tales, check out Pike's 2012 9-min
 short Minatory on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/55201061

 Enjoy!
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Re: PESO: Madonna

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
An interesting image. Some nice printing on the card, well captured by you.
Paul
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 Detail from a Christmas card:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670440
 
 Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - The Filmmaker

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the pose and the subject's look. But I find the crop at the top of the 
head and intersecting ceiling line distracting. A deeper crop might be better.
Paul
On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Gerrit.
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just enough colour in the first one to give it a bit of a kick. You get the
 impression that he is already thinking of the next project.
 
 Gerrit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
 Sent: December 17, 2012 4:12 PM
 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
 Subject: PESO - The Filmmaker
 
 My wife has been pursuing a creative project interviewing Canadian indie
 filmmakers about their projects and lives. I've been tagging along to help
 (lighting, grip, sometimes DP) and to get stills of the subjects.
 
 I have enough decent shots from these outings now that I've decided to make
 my own series: The Filmmakers. Here's the latest:
 
 Jeffrey W. Pike
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8278639503/lightbox/
 
 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/2.5, 1/320th, ISO 400.
 Lr 4.2, PS CS5.
 160-LED video light from camera-rt for fill.
 
 And bonus bw shot:
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8279699032/lightbox/
 
 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/3.2, 1/320th, ISO 200.
 Nik Silver Efex Pro 2
 
 
 Bonus short movie: if you like creepy tales, check out Pike's 2012 9-min
 short Minatory on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/55201061
 
 Enjoy!
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Re: Huh! One of my images...

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent photo. I recall it being posted here. Congratulations.
Paul

On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote:

 Missed your PESO. Glad I got to see it now. A well deserved honour and cup of 
 coffee. :-)
 Jostein
 - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 5:05 PM
 Subject: Huh! One of my images...
 
 
 ...was selected as the Thread of the Week/Featured Thread on the
 Fred Miranda Forums. I submitted a handful of images to the various
 categories there and my previous PESO: A Road Less Traveled is the
 one that got the most attention. I'm rather pleased, as they seem to
 have some pretty darn good images/photographers over there. Wonder how
 often a Pentax shot gets selected? :)
 
 http://www.fredmiranda.com/
 ^ showing it was selected
 
 http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1173155
 ^ direct link to the thread
 
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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done! Great fun. Thanks for sharing.
Paul
On Dec 18, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
 
 Bob -
 
 The Next and Previous links are just above the price list.  They're not 
 real obvious...
 
 I was about to make the same comment, and eventually found the previous and 
 next buttons.  I am used to gallery software  that has the next and previous 
 buttons placed in much more obvious locations, usually to the left and right 
 of the image.  Sometimes arrows that show up when you mouse over the image, 
 which are actually on the image.
 
 There are some nice photos in there. There are also a bunch that seem overly 
 HDR'd for my taste. 
 I do appreciate the level of detail you went into describing each of the 
 cars.  Allow me to step into my role as Mr. Pot, and comment that 
 photographically, it would work a lot better as a much smaller gallery.  As 
 an exhibition of the cars in the museum however, it is quite cool, though I'd 
 probably appreciate it more as several smaller thematic galleries, possibly 
 by age of the cars.
 
 
 
 -p
 
 On 12/17/2012 10:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 Jeffery,
 This gallery set-up sucks.
 I can see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
 And no link to the next image.
 I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again 52 times.
 Sorry for the frank commentary...
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.
 
 The Lane  Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in Nashville,
 Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
 United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on average
 150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on display
 
 The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The majority 
 of
 the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they do have some
 from the 20's and as current as 2000.
 
 Here is a link to the gallery:
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739
 
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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson

Thanks Paul.

On 12/18/2012 6:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Well done! Great fun. Thanks for sharing.
Paul
On Dec 18, 2012, at 3:36 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:


On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


Bob -

The Next and Previous links are just above the price list.  They're not 
real obvious...

I was about to make the same comment, and eventually found the previous and 
next buttons.  I am used to gallery software  that has the next and previous 
buttons placed in much more obvious locations, usually to the left and right of 
the image.  Sometimes arrows that show up when you mouse over the image, which 
are actually on the image.

There are some nice photos in there. There are also a bunch that seem overly 
HDR'd for my taste.
I do appreciate the level of detail you went into describing each of the cars.  
Allow me to step into my role as Mr. Pot, and comment that photographically, it 
would work a lot better as a much smaller gallery.  As an exhibition of the 
cars in the museum however, it is quite cool, though I'd probably appreciate it 
more as several smaller thematic galleries, possibly by age of the cars.



-p

On 12/17/2012 10:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jeffery,
This gallery set-up sucks.
I can see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
And no link to the next image.
I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again 52 times.
Sorry for the frank commentary...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

The Lane  Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in Nashville,
Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on average
150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on display

The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The majority of
the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they do have some
from the 20's and as current as 2000.

Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks Larry. On some I did go little over board on the HDR and on 
others I tried to go a bit more subtle. I will go through them and see 
what of them I can weed out.


I will see what can be done on better directional arrows.

Thanks again.
Jeffery

On 12/18/2012 2:36 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


I was about to make the same comment, and eventually found the previous and 
next buttons.  I am used to gallery software  that has the next and previous 
buttons placed in much more obvious locations, usually to the left and right of 
the image.  Sometimes arrows that show up when you mouse over the image, which 
are actually on the image.

  There are some nice photos in there. There are also a bunch that seem overly 
HDR'd for my taste.
I do appreciate the level of detail you went into describing each of the cars.  
Allow me to step into my role as Mr. Pot, and comment that photographically, it 
would work a lot better as a much smaller gallery.  As an exhibition of the 
cars in the museum however, it is quite cool, though I'd probably appreciate it 
more as several smaller thematic galleries, possibly by age of the cars.



-p

On 12/17/2012 10:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jeffery,
This gallery set-up sucks.
I can see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
And no link to the next image.
I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again 52 times.
Sorry for the frank commentary...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

The Lane  Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in Nashville,
Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on average
150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on display

The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The majority of
the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they do have some
from the 20's and as current as 2000.

Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

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Re: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-18 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks much, Jostein!

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Tyn Church

Powerful shot.
The buildings manage to be imposing despite the perspective reclination. That's 
no small feat, imo!

Jostein
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:35 AM
Subject: PESO - Tyn Church


 Prague's Tyn (Teen) Church, from the rear:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16674895
 
 Comments appreciated!
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 P.S. to Boris: This one was way magenta as originally posted; most of the 
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Re: PESO - The Filmmaker

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Walker
I reduced the contrast of that bar (it's window structure), and toyed
with removing it altogether (mucked-up my 1st attempt), but cropping
might just be the best answer.

Thanks Paul!


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I like the pose and the subject's look. But I find the crop at the top of the 
 head and intersecting ceiling line distracting. A deeper crop might be better.
 Paul
 On Dec 18, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Gerrit.


 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just enough colour in the first one to give it a bit of a kick. You get the
 impression that he is already thinking of the next project.

 Gerrit

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 My wife has been pursuing a creative project interviewing Canadian indie
 filmmakers about their projects and lives. I've been tagging along to help
 (lighting, grip, sometimes DP) and to get stills of the subjects.

 I have enough decent shots from these outings now that I've decided to make
 my own series: The Filmmakers. Here's the latest:

 Jeffrey W. Pike
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8278639503/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/2.5, 1/320th, ISO 400.
 Lr 4.2, PS CS5.
 160-LED video light from camera-rt for fill.

 And bonus bw shot:
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8279699032/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/3.2, 1/320th, ISO 200.
 Nik Silver Efex Pro 2


 Bonus short movie: if you like creepy tales, check out Pike's 2012 9-min
 short Minatory on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/55201061

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Re: PESO: Madonna

2012-12-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Paul.  I was experimenting on various items with my new-old macro lens.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 An interesting image. Some nice printing on the card, well captured by you.
 Paul
 On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Detail from a Christmas card:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670440

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Darren Addy
As I said on Twitter:
Who da thunk after paying $1B for #Instagram that #Facebook would now
want to monitize it? Besides everybody, I mean.

One opinion to the latest news is that if you are going to use a free
service you should expect them to be able to make money off of their
service (YOU) somehow:
http://www.zdnet.com/so-instagram-can-now-sell-your-photos-get-over-it-708960/
That article also links to a couple of services that help you to
download your items from Instagram if you want to preserve them and
then terminate your service with them.

I don't use Instagram, so this does not affect me directly, but it is
one more (significant) application of downward pressure to stock
photography prices (something that seems to be going the way of print
newspapers). So for anybody who makes an income off of stock
photography this is not good news (any more than Getty's collaboration
with Flickr was really good news in that regard).

In a larger sense, this highlights the problem inherent in any Terms
of Service that can change significantly with little notice to their
users. Facebook has a particularly egregious history in this regard so
it figures that anything they takeover is going to be afflicted by the
same disease. I fear that it is a trend that will only accelerate with
other services looking for ways to increase the bottom line.


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 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
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 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.

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Re: GESO - tango @ ISO-6400

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

Boris' #57 from his Two low light PESOs post

#57 -  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-57-night.html

I don't know how he got it tangled up with Igor's GESO.

From: Bob Sullivan

John,  Where is the original?  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: Boris Liberman


Slightly re-edited my ISO 25600 photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/8280936117/



The original edit is superior.


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RE: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jeffery Johnson

We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

The Lane Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in
Nashville, Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European
vehicles in the United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they
only have on average 150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the
U.S., on display.

The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The
majority of the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they
do have some from the 20's and as current as 2000.

Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739


The over-processed HDR look doesn't appeal to me.

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Re:Re: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Very nice night shot. Like the mood. Might crop the very bottom light 
out as it pulls eye to it while the higher window lights sorta point to 
the subject. YMMV




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On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Prague's Tyn (Teen) Church, from the rear:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16674895

Comments appreciated!

Rick



P.S. to Boris: This one was way magenta as originally posted; most of the 
shift seems to have occurred in the transfer.? This one is adjusted.? Thanks for 
the heads-up.




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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Wow with all that great subject matter you can go wild. Keepers 
everyone. Loved the look.



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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:55:45 -0600
From: Jeffery Johnsonjefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net
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Subject: GESO: Lane Motor Museum
Message-ID:50cfdb31.8050...@bellsouth.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

The Lane Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in
Nashville, Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European
vehicles in the United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they
only have on average 150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the
U.S., on display.

The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The
majority of the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they
do have some from the 20's and as current as 2000.

Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

-- Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by Jeffery
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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

Your pictures are our pictures. Nothing less than 'corporate communism'.

Somebody needs to sue them for what is a flagrant attempt at
intellectual property theft.

Tom C.

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Re: Peso The Winter Farm

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Thank you Ann. I guess it is sort of the physical opposite of where you 
live.



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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lovely, Don ann On 12/17/2012 16:05,
Don Guthrie wrote:

The weather has been grey  gloomy but I could not wait for decent
clouds and this is just what Iowa looks like without some Winter snow.

Comments  Critique always welcomed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8282416548/in/photostream/lightbox/




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O.T. Bike messenger book

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Found this free today on Kindle books. For those who might be interested 
in such things. Well it is free today I guess I will try it.




Fatal Exchange chronicles the story of Tess Gideon, a female Manhattan 
bike messenger with an appetite for the wild side who becomes embroiled 
in a rogue nation's Byzantine scheme to destabilize the U.S. financial 
system.


From the sweltering streets of Seoul to the sex-and-drugs-driven...

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Re: PESO: Street photos

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie
I know nothing about Street Photography but I do see some I like and I 
like these and wish they were mine.



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https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=2D01AE85E70E90E2!140034authkey=!ABa-Ib4-orvXh-A

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Re: GESO - tango @ ISO-6400

2012-12-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, Igor was kinda boasting with low light performance of his camera. 
I thought I might show an image shot at 4 times higher sensitivity and 
with older camera :-). I kind of think that perhaps beside the AF 
improvements (which are to be verified) K-5II and K-5IIs don't offer too 
much - mostly some far after decimal points digits on some test scale...


On 12/18/2012 6:42 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Boris' #57 from his Two low light PESOs post

#57 -  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-57-night.html

I don't know how he got it tangled up with Igor's GESO.

From: Bob Sullivan

John,  Where is the original?  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:

From: Boris Liberman


Slightly re-edited my ISO 25600 photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/8280936117/



The original edit is superior.





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Re: Peso The Winter Farm

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie

Bob, thanks for the look-see and the analysis. Appreciated.


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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:48:08 -0600
From: Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Peso The Winter Farm
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Good catch  Don.
I like the farm buildings all captured along a line.
The field in the forefront does a nice job of leading to the buildings.
It;s a good recognition by you of how this composition comes together.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

The weather has been grey  gloomy but I could not wait for decent clouds
and this is just what Iowa looks like without some Winter snow.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Bong Manayon wrote:

Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.

http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

Neat! Well, for Instagram it’s neat. Not so much for its end users.
But I have to admit I'm impressed with the diabolical game they've
played here.

TOS agreements like this haven’t been a problem in the past for a
couple of reasons: Firstly, the online service could never be sure the
person who uploaded the image was the copyright owner — and there are
big lawsuits waiting there if they guess wrong. Secondly, aside from
copyright they need a model release from any recognizable person in
any image they use commercially or license for commercial use.

Instagram sidesteps the first issue entirely because the person who
shoots the photo is the one who uploads it to the site. And because
Instagram encourages artsy photography of all kinds of subjects,
there’s a good chance they’ll get a significant number of photographs
which don’t show a recognizable person and therefore don’t require a
model release. 

Yes, it's evil, but impressively so.
 
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RE: Peso The Winter Farm

2012-12-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Gerrit, the weather today is as cold and damp as that picture 
looks. Not screensaver material for this time of year.



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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:33:42 -0500
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Subject: RE: Peso The Winter Farm
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Ew, that gives a cold feeling:-)
Interesting how the furrows lead your eyes away from the otherwise strong
white barn.
Very effective in conveying the feeling.

Gerrit





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Re: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
That's really nice. Like the atmospheric quality  of the sky. 

However, I have a sneaking suspicion you lightened up the  buildings in 
front (shadow recovery), and in this case I wouldn't mind them  darker. 
Contrast is okay in this kind of shot. If I am wrong, totally ignore  me.

Well, actually, you can totally ignore me anyway. Heh. Feedback is  just 
feedback.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/17/2012  6:35:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Prague's Tyn  (Teen) Church, from the  rear:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16674895

Comments  appreciated!

Rick  


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RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

So, facebook is owned by greedy assholes. Who would have ever guessed?

From: Bong Manayon

Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos


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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Thanks for the correction. Sometimes I'm impatient, but I never saw
those nor the line of thumbnails above the photo.  It makes me wonder
if they were there the first time I looked.
Jeffery,
My apologies, but still a mighty big gallery.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bob -

 The Next and Previous links are just above the price list.  They're not
 real obvious...

 -p

 On 12/17/2012 10:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Jeffery,
 This gallery set-up sucks.
 I can see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
 And no link to the next image.
 I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again 52 times.
 Sorry for the frank commentary...
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

 The Lane  Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in
 Nashville,
 Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
 United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on
 average
 150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on display

 The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The majority
 of
 the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they do have some
 from the 20's and as current as 2000.

 Here is a link to the gallery:
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

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Re: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Wow, I hope that's only temporary.  Regards,  Bob S.

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 A bit naff, but it's Pentax...

 http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling

Facebook is openly evil.

On 12/18/2012 10:07 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:

Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.

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Re: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Anything imprinted on flesh is only temporary, depending on your 
definition of temporary.


On 12/18/2012 1:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Wow, I hope that's only temporary.  Regards,  Bob S.

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A bit naff, but it's Pentax...

http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html

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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson
On the right there were small thumbnails and small arrows so just in 
case others were having any confusions I switched the layout to the way 
it is currently.


Jeffery

On 12/18/2012 12:05 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Paul,
Thanks for the correction. Sometimes I'm impatient, but I never saw
those nor the line of thumbnails above the photo.  It makes me wonder
if they were there the first time I looked.
Jeffery,
My apologies, but still a mighty big gallery.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Bob -

The Next and Previous links are just above the price list.  They're not
real obvious...

-p

On 12/17/2012 10:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jeffery,
This gallery set-up sucks.
I can see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
And no link to the next image.
I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again 52 times.
Sorry for the frank commentary...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

We made a trip to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

The Lane  Motor Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in
Nashville,
Tennessee. It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
United States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on
average
150 cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on display

The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot bakery. The majority
of
the vehicles were built in the 1950s through 1970s but they do have some
from the 20's and as current as 2000.

Here is a link to the gallery:
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tom C

From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos


Your pictures are our pictures. Nothing less than 'corporate communism'.

Somebody needs to sue them for what is a flagrant attempt at
intellectual property theft.



No can do! All disputes have to be submitted to binding arbitration. 
It's in the TOS you agreed to when you signed up.


THEY get to pick the arbitrator.

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Re: GESO - tango @ ISO-6400

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

Anyway, I think the original #57 is a much more appealing image.

From: Boris Liberman

Well, Igor was kinda boasting with low light performance of his camera.
I thought I might show an image shot at 4 times higher sensitivity and
with older camera :-). I kind of think that perhaps beside the AF
improvements (which are to be verified) K-5II and K-5IIs don't offer too
much - mostly some far after decimal points digits on some test scale...

On 12/18/2012 6:42 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Boris' #57 from his Two low light PESOs post

#57 -  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-57-night.html

I don't know how he got it tangled up with Igor's GESO.

From: Bob Sullivan

John,  Where is the original?  Bob S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:

From: Boris Liberman


Slightly re-edited my ISO 25600 photo:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/8280936117/



The original edit is superior.


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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-dD-QKYN4

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Re: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-18 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Marnie!

Your suspicions are incorrect.  I did nothing to the foreground buildings; I 
reduced the brightness of the floodlit mid-ground building because it 
overwhelmed the background towers.

Rick
 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Tyn Church

That's really nice. Like the atmospheric quality  of the sky. 

However, I have a sneaking suspicion you lightened up the  buildings in 
front (shadow recovery), and in this case I wouldn't mind them  darker. 
Contrast is okay in this kind of shot. If I am wrong, totally ignore  me.

Well, actually, you can totally ignore me anyway. Heh. Feedback is  just 
feedback.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/17/2012  6:35:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Prague's Tyn  (Teen) Church, from the  rear:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16674895

Comments  appreciated!

Rick  


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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, but they have gazillion members out of which gazillion and a half 
will stay signed in forever. Though there is hope in numbers, 'cause 
they have immense piles of images (even given the hints of the 
community assigned rating) to work through to find something useful.


Anyway, I'm rather amused by the consequences of mass hysteria when one 
is not considered fully human if one doesn't have a Facebook, twitter, 
etc account...


It will get progressively more bizarre to the people who could keep a 
date without a cell phone, and rather a second nature to the current 
generation...


Just my five cents...


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On December 18, 2012 8:14:48 PM P. J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Facebook is openly evil.

On 12/18/2012 10:07 AM, Bong Manayon wrote:
 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.

 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos



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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Tom, it would have been communism if it also said 'our pictures are 
your pictures' which iiuc it most certainly does not.



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On December 18, 2012 7:13:23 PM Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

Your pictures are our pictures. Nothing less than 'corporate communism'.

Somebody needs to sue them for what is a flagrant attempt at
intellectual property theft.

Tom C.

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RE: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-18 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
 
  A bit naff, but it's Pentax...
 
  http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html
 
 I briefly worked with someone who had Smile tattooed on the inside
 side of his right forefinger, where people would see it when he was
 about to press the shutter while taking a picture of them.
 

I bet he got lots of great pictures of people barfing.

B


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RE: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-18 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling
 
 Anything imprinted on flesh is only temporary, depending on your
 definition of temporary.
 

WHISPERS OF IMMORTALITY

Webster was much possessed by death
And saw the skull beneath the skin;
And breastless creatures under ground
Leaned backward with a lipless grin.

Daffodil bulbs instead of balls
Stared from the sockets of the eyes!
He knew that thought clings round dead limbs
Tightening its lusts and luxuries.

Donne, I suppose, was such another
Who found no substitute for sense;
To seize and clutch and penetrate,
Expert beyond experience,

He knew the anguish of the marrow
The ague of the skeleton;
No contact possible to flesh
Allayed the fever of the bone.

Grishkin is nice: her
Russian eye is underlined for emphasis;
Uncorseted, her friendly bust
Gives promise of pneumatic bliss.

The couched Brazilian jaguar
Compels the scampering marmoset
With subtle effluence of cat;
Grishkin has a maisonette;

The sleek Brazilian jaguar
Does not in its arboreal gloom
Distil so rank a feline smell
As Grishkin in a drawing-room.

And even the Abstract Entities
Circumambulate her charm;
But our lot crawls between dry ribs
To keep our metaphysics warm.

---T S Eliot

 On 12/18/2012 1:12 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
  Wow, I hope that's only temporary.  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Chris Mitchell
  chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
  A bit naff, but it's Pentax...
 
  http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html
 
  Chris
 
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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

 From: Tom C
 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

 Your pictures are our pictures. Nothing less than 'corporate communism'.

 Somebody needs to sue them for what is a flagrant attempt at
 intellectual property theft.


 No can do! All disputes have to be submitted to binding arbitration.
 It's in the TOS you agreed to when you signed up.

 THEY get to pick the arbitrator.

I've never used Instagram and I activate my Facebook account once
every two months or so simply to enter a giveaway. Never put a photo
on either. It recently has become to where I don't even care about
that. Facebook is a good idea gone totally awry.

Tom C.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 12/18/2012 3:19 PM, Tom C wrote:

From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
From: Tom C

From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

Your pictures are our pictures. Nothing less than 'corporate communism'.

Somebody needs to sue them for what is a flagrant attempt at
intellectual property theft.


No can do! All disputes have to be submitted to binding arbitration.
It's in the TOS you agreed to when you signed up.

THEY get to pick the arbitrator.

I've never used Instagram and I activate my Facebook account once
every two months or so simply to enter a giveaway. Never put a photo
on either. It recently has become to where I don't even care about
that. Facebook is a good idea gone totally awry.

Tom C.

If you believe the story, Zuckerberg started Facebook to meet women, 
probably because he couldn't stalk them any other way.


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Re: Sometimes you just *have* to color-correct your images…

2012-12-18 Thread Jos from Holland

Hi Charles,
My thoughts:

The human eye-brain combination has a very intelligent white-balancing 
system; a photograph of the lady sitting under a green sun shade, shows 
a greenish skin, but with your own eyes you see correct color because 
your brain knows that skin is not green and concludes that it has to 
correct because of the green sun shade.


The automatic white balance of your camera has to decide which part of 
the scene has to be called white. It will select the brightest part of 
the scene: the reflection on your ring! This is probably yellowish, 
because its own gold color and because of the sun light. If the system 
makes this white, the rest of the scene will be bluish. The system 
worked perfectly, it did what it was told to do!


Greetz, Jos

On 17-12-2012 17:35, Charles Robinson wrote:

A little example of how late in the day we were at the Valley of Fire National 
park.  The first uncorrected image shows what the color of the light was - and 
holding the preview screen of the camera next to my hand, it looked right on.

This was about 20 minutes after the sun had completely disappeared behind the 
mountains/hills to the West.  It was getting to the point where my wife and I 
could just barely see the path to walk.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMGP5608.jpg

The second image is the one I used to color-correct everything else I shot 
after sunset.  I made my hand look normal, so the rest of the images would look 
properly like daylight shots.  Indeed, this is the color of red we were seeing 
before the sun dropped below the horizon.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMGP5608-2.jpg

My first thought when I saw the image on the preview screen was that the 
auto-white-balance was being thrown by the red of the sand.  But holding the 
camera next to my hand, it looked just like what I was seeing with my eyes.  
Funky.

  -Charles

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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 On the right there were small thumbnails and small arrows so just in case 
 others were having any confusions I switched the layout to the way it is 
 currently.

That works much better.

As to the HDR etc. note that if your goal is to sell photos, the refined tastes 
of the PDML do not necessarily match those of the general populace.

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Re: GESO - tango @ ISO-6400

2012-12-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Dec 18, 2012, at 8:42 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 Boris' #57 from his Two low light PESOs post
 
 #57 -  http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/12/peso-2012-57-night.html

Yes, the original is much better than the reworked original.  I think it 
succeeds in large part from what it hides.

You could bring out a little bit more color and detail in the sky, but not so 
much that it looks like daylight.

 
 I don't know how he got it tangled up with Igor's GESO.
 
 From: Bob Sullivan
 John,  Where is the original?  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 2:35 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Boris Liberman
 
 Slightly re-edited my ISO 25600 photo:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/8280936117/
 
 
 The original edit is superior.
 
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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson
That is true, I forget that most here are on a refined diet of fine 
foods and high end wines.


Jeffery

On 12/18/2012 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Dec 18, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:


On the right there were small thumbnails and small arrows so just in case 
others were having any confusions I switched the layout to the way it is 
currently.

That works much better.

As to the HDR etc. note that if your goal is to sell photos, the refined tastes 
of the PDML do not necessarily match those of the general populace.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Well, there goes my plan to Instagram all the photos for next year's
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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

 Tom, it would have been communism if it also said 'our pictures are
 your pictures' which iiuc it most certainly does not.

True but I didn't want to perpetuate that part of the deception.
Twentieth-century communists (as we commonly like to think of them -
the eastern bloc) essentially had their own bourgeois elite class,
that was rich and privileged and didn't learn to share when children.

Tom C.

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Re: PESO: Street photos

2012-12-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The second one is brilliant!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: December 18, 2012 12/18/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Street photos

I know nothing about Street Photography but I do see some I like and I 
like these and wish they were mine.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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RE: PESO - The Filmmaker

2012-12-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Excellent informal portrait.

cheers,
frank

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: December 17, 2012 12/17/12
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - The Filmmaker

My wife has been pursuing a creative project interviewing Canadian
indie filmmakers about their projects and lives. I've been tagging
along to help (lighting, grip, sometimes DP) and to get stills of the
subjects.

I have enough decent shots from these outings now that I've decided to
make my own series: The Filmmakers. Here's the latest:

Jeffrey W. Pike
http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8278639503/lightbox/

K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/2.5, 1/320th, ISO 400.
Lr 4.2, PS CS5.
160-LED video light from camera-rt for fill.

And bonus bw shot:
http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8279699032/lightbox/

K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/3.2, 1/320th, ISO 200.
Nik Silver Efex Pro 2


Bonus short movie: if you like creepy tales, check out Pike's 2012
9-min short Minatory on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/55201061

Enjoy!
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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
As I understand it communism is common ownership of the means of production.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Instagram stealing photographs.

Sadly, the term communism has been misused and abused more than just about 
any other word in the past century - including by those who purport to be 
communists (but clearly aren't).

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com
Sent: December 18, 2012 12/18/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

 From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com

 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world?s largest stock photo agency.

 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

Your pictures are our pictures. Nothing less than 'corporate communism'.

Somebody needs to sue them for what is a flagrant attempt at
intellectual property theft.

Tom C.

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RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Gerrit Visser
Just like democracy and freedom, 2 more words abused ad infinitum.

Of course Instagram is not stealing your photos, they are telling you that
you have granted them a license to do anything they like with your
copyrighted material. Unlike of course what you are allowed to do with
anyone else's copyrighted material. Of course that wording is in the
existing TOS so nothing new there.

Gerrit

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As I understand it communism is common ownership of the means of
production.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Instagram stealing photographs.

Sadly, the term communism has been misused and abused more than just about
any other word in the past century - including by those who purport to be
communists (but clearly aren't).

cheers,
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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I JUST NOW heard that announced on my evening TV news and was about to 
mention it here. Oy


ann

On 12/18/2012 10:07, Bong Manayon wrote:

Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.

http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos



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RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 As I understand it communism is common ownership of the means of
 production.
 
 I'm not sure what that has to do with Instagram stealing photographs.
 
 Sadly, the term communism has been misused and abused more than just
 about any other word in the past century - including by those who
 purport to be communists (but clearly aren't).
 

if you trace the term back to its roots in the French Revolution and the
'commune insurrectionnelle' of 1792 you may find that communism is
government of the people, by the people, for the people.

B


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Re: PESO - The Filmmaker

2012-12-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Frank, thank you.


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 Excellent informal portrait.

 cheers,
 frank

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 My wife has been pursuing a creative project interviewing Canadian
 indie filmmakers about their projects and lives. I've been tagging
 along to help (lighting, grip, sometimes DP) and to get stills of the
 subjects.

 I have enough decent shots from these outings now that I've decided to
 make my own series: The Filmmakers. Here's the latest:

 Jeffrey W. Pike
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8278639503/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/2.5, 1/320th, ISO 400.
 Lr 4.2, PS CS5.
 160-LED video light from camera-rt for fill.

 And bonus bw shot:
 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8279699032/lightbox/

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, f/3.2, 1/320th, ISO 200.
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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com

 As I understand it communism is common ownership of the means of production.

 I'm not sure what that has to do with Instagram stealing photographs.

 Sadly, the term communism has been misused and abused more than just about 
 any other word in the past century - including by those who purport to be 
 communists (but clearly aren't).

 cheers,
 frank

Well Frank, the meaning of words change over time. Some words are
misused either accidentally or deliberately. Some words grow in
meaning and come to encompass wider concepts, or that same word can be
used to describe a smaller attribute of a larger whole.

You know that though... :)

I used the term in the sense that it applies to a general lack of
regard for personal property rights, and probably most readers
understood it in that context.

As I understand now, Instagram/Facebook is back-pedaling saying that
what they wrote isn't what they really meant. I find that hard to
swallow because dishonesty and unbridled self-interest is easy to
disguise and cover over as accidental, ineptness or stupidity. I had
no doubts about what the TOS in question meant when I read it.

I recall an underwear manufacturer commercial in the past depicting
only white underwear as being 'communistic' or like living under a
communist system because of a relative lack of choice. Viewers got the
point.

As Gerrit, wrote the terms democracy and capitalism (and just about
any word) can be used in endless ways.

Do you know what the word pedantic means? I'm sure you do. I do...
sometimes I'm that way. :)

Tom C.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Igor Roshchin


Apparently, today in the afternoon, this policy change has been 
revoked by Facebook:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559890-93/instagram-apologizes-to-users-we-wont-sell-your-photos/


On 12/18/2012 10:07, Bong Manayon wrote:
 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world.s largest stock photo agency.

 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos



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Re: Huh! One of my images...

2012-12-18 Thread Mark C
Stunning photo, Darren - I missed it the first time around. Easy to see 
why they used it!


Mark

On 12/17/2012 11:05 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

...was selected as the Thread of the Week/Featured Thread on the
Fred Miranda Forums. I submitted a handful of images to the various
categories there and my previous PESO: A Road Less Traveled is the
one that got the most attention. I'm rather pleased, as they seem to
have some pretty darn good images/photographers over there. Wonder how
often a Pentax shot gets selected? :)

http://www.fredmiranda.com/
^ showing it was selected

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1173155
^ direct link to the thread

Best part? This honor  a buck-and-a-half will get me a cup of coffee
at McDonalds (except that I gave up caffeine about 5 weeks ago).




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Re: PESO - The Filmmaker

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Like the BW one, other is nice  too.

Looks like a football guy, not a film maker. 

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

In a message dated 12/17/2012 1:12:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
My wife has been pursuing a creative project  interviewing Canadian
indie filmmakers about their projects and lives. I've  been tagging
along to help (lighting, grip, sometimes DP) and to get stills  of the
subjects.

I have enough decent shots from these outings now  that I've decided to
make my own series: The Filmmakers. Here's the  latest:

Jeffrey W.  Pike
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Re: PESO - Tyn Church

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Okay. You know, I am wrong quite often,  actually.

Keeps me humble. Heh.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated 12/18/2012 11:06:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Thanks, Marnie!

Your suspicions are  incorrect.  I did nothing to the foreground buildings; 
I reduced the  brightness of the floodlit mid-ground building because it 
overwhelmed the  background towers.

Rick

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Good, never used Instagram (not quite sure, what  it is actually), but was 
considering never showing a photo again on FB. Which I  sort of like, 
actually. Took me about a year, but now I am used to  it.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  Newflanged gadgets, grumble, istuff,  tablets, give me 
Twitter and FB and a computer. 

In a message dated  12/18/2012 5:26:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
s...@komkon.org  writes:
Apparently, today in the afternoon, this policy change has been  
revoked by  Facebook:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559890-93/instagram-apologizes-to-users-w
e-wont-sell-your-photos/   


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Re: Tattoo Pentax

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
LOL. Isn't that carrying brand loyalty a bit too  far?!?

Marnie aka Doe :-)  But it is funny.

In a message  dated 12/17/2012 10:40:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
chris.mitch...@which.net  writes:
A bit naff, but it's  Pentax...

http://www.tattoohelma.nl/tatoo/322.html

Chris  


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Re: PESO: Madonna

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Nice close up.

I don't macro enough.  (What it makes me think of.)

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated  12/17/2012 6:36:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
danmaty...@gmail.com  writes:
Detail from a Christmas  card:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16670440

Dan  Matyola
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Re: PESO 2012 - 140, 141 - GDG

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Her head looks weird to me, like it's  chopped off or not all there, 
Godfrey. But other than that, nice  shot.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 12/17/2012 11:01:41  P.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
dmann...@gmail.com writes:
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8280803830/lightbox
  or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8280803830/

I like  this as well.  The kid peeking out is golden.  Not so sure about 
the  foreground blob though.

Cheers,
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RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 eactiv...@aol.com
 
 Good, never used Instagram (not quite sure, what  it is actually), but
 was considering never showing a photo again on FB. Which I  sort of
 like, actually. Took me about a year, but now I am used to  it.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)  Newflanged gadgets, grumble, istuff,  tablets, give
 me Twitter and FB and a computer.
 
 In a message dated  12/18/2012 5:26:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 s...@komkon.org  writes:
 Apparently, today in the afternoon, this policy change has been revoked
 by  Facebook:
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57559890-93/instagram-apologizes-to-
 users-w
 e-wont-sell-your-photos/

this whole thing feels to me like a deliberately storm-provoking opening
move. They will came back soom with something else that's only slightly less
outrageous, and everyone will breathe a sigh of relief because it's not as
bad as it could have been, and 'we have listened to our customers'. They
will then bit by bit start nibbling away at it until they've got what they
wanted in the first place.

It's a very common ploy used by politicians, property developers and other
greasy bastards. A couple of years ago there was a plan put forward here to
build some collosal tower blocks at the end of the street, right by the
river, spoiling a world famous view. Of course there was a storm of protest;
the developers 'listened to local residents', and got permission to build
stuff that would probably have been rejected if they had proposed it first
time round. A few months ago, building halted 'due to the downturn', but has
recently been restarted but they have proposed a change to the plans which
almost reinstates what they originally asked to do. 

It becomes a war of attrition as these greedy bastards do their damndest to
fuck the ordinary people every which way in pursuit of their filthy lucre.

'Monetize'. Whoever thought that one up should be buried up to his chin in
concrete and his mouth used as a public toilet. At 20p a time, to monetize
it.

B


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Re: Sometimes you just *have* to color-correct your images?

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

I never use AWB. I set the camera to Sunny WB  leave it.

Sunny WB is going to be wrong, but at least it's always consistently
wrong in the same direction. AWB is going to be wrong  wandering all
over the place. NO two shots will be wrong in the same way.

With the fixed WB I have an easier time correcting it in Camera Raw.

From: Jos from Holland

Hi Charles,
My thoughts:

The human eye-brain combination has a very intelligent
white-balancing system; a photograph of the lady sitting under a
green sun shade, shows a greenish skin, but with your own eyes you
see correct color because your brain knows that skin is not green and
concludes that it has to correct because of the green sun shade.

The automatic white balance of your camera has to decide which part
of the scene has to be called white. It will select the brightest
part of the scene: the reflection on your ring! This is probably
yellowish, because its own gold color and because of the sun light.
If the system makes this white, the rest of the scene will be bluish.
The system worked perfectly, it did what it was told to do!

Greetz, Jos

On 17-12-2012 17:35, Charles Robinson wrote:

A little example of how late in the day we were at the Valley of
Fire National park.  The first uncorrected image shows what the
color of the light was - and holding the preview screen of the
camera next to my hand, it looked right on.

This was about 20 minutes after the sun had completely disappeared
behind the mountains/hills to the West.  It was getting to the
point where my wife and I could just barely see the path to walk.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMGP5608.jpg

The second image is the one I used to color-correct everything else
I shot after sunset.  I made my hand look normal, so the rest of
the images would look properly like daylight shots.  Indeed, this
is the color of red we were seeing before the sun dropped below the
horizon.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/IMGP5608-2.jpg

My first thought when I saw the image on the preview screen was
that the auto-white-balance was being thrown by the red of the
sand.  But holding the camera next to my hand, it looked just like
what I was seeing with my eyes.  Funky.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tom C


From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

Tom, it would have been communism if it also said 'our pictures are
your pictures' which iiuc it most certainly does not.


True but I didn't want to perpetuate that part of the deception.
Twentieth-century communists (as we commonly like to think of them -
the eastern bloc) essentially had their own bourgeois elite class,
that was rich and privileged and didn't learn to share when children.

Tom C.


The essential difference between Fascism  Communism is that under
Fascism the government tells the people what to do and under Communism
the people are told what to do by the government.

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RE: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

 this whole thing feels to me like a deliberately storm-provoking opening
 move. They will came back soom with something else that's only slightly less
 outrageous, and everyone will breathe a sigh of relief because it's not as
 bad as it could have been, and 'we have listened to our customers'. They
 will then bit by bit start nibbling away at it until they've got what they
 wanted in the first place.

 It's a very common ploy used by politicians, property developers and other
 greasy bastards. A couple of years ago there was a plan put forward here to
 build some collosal tower blocks at the end of the street, right by the
 river, spoiling a world famous view. Of course there was a storm of protest;
 the developers 'listened to local residents', and got permission to build
 stuff that would probably have been rejected if they had proposed it first
 time round. A few months ago, building halted 'due to the downturn', but has
 recently been restarted but they have proposed a change to the plans which
 almost reinstates what they originally asked to do.

 It becomes a war of attrition as these greedy bastards do their damndest to
 fuck the ordinary people every which way in pursuit of their filthy lucre.

 'Monetize'. Whoever thought that one up should be buried up to his chin in
 concrete and his mouth used as a public toilet. At 20p a time, to monetize
 it.

 B

LOL Bob. Unfortunately. You may very well be right. Just look at the
'rights' we implicitly have waved by using the internet, smart phones,
and GPS, It's a gradual slide into having no or little individual
rights. Not that we have something to hide... but the fact that
governments.ultimately license, permit, and demand access to what a
normal citizen would consider personal information... off on a tangent
I know... common thread being those with the power to do so, will tend
to take advantage when the opportunity arises.

Reminds me of sci-fi stories where a person is tried and and convicted
by a computerized court.

Tom C.

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RE: PESO: Blanket

2012-12-18 Thread Gerrit Visser
A nice, modern abstract, not at all obvious what it actually is (without you
telling us). Amazingly narrow depth of field.

Gerrit

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-18 22:00, Bob W wrote:


It becomes a war of attrition as these greedy bastards do their damndest to
fuck the ordinary people every which way in pursuit of their filthy lucre.


Preach on, brother, preach on.  Time tested techniques on display there.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-18 22:17, John Sessoms wrote:


The essential difference between Fascism  Communism is that under
Fascism the government tells the people what to do and under Communism
the people are told what to do by the government.


I've long been under the impression that, at least as practiced by the 
Germans and Italians in the 1920s-1940s, the difference was that fascism 
was based on (allegedly) what's good for the peasant folk versus 
communism's (allegedly) what's good for everyone, in both cases, as 
judged by the powers that be.


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Re: PESO: Blanket

2012-12-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson

Now the big question. How warm is that blanket?

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-18 22:33, Tom C wrote:


LOL Bob. Unfortunately. You may very well be right. Just look at the
'rights' we implicitly have waved by using the internet, smart phones,
and GPS, It's a gradual slide into having no or little individual
rights.


I've seen a commentary or two lately that claim, with some historical 
backing, that personal privacy was an aberration of Western society in 
the 19th and 20th centuries, as compared to the rest of human history.


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Not quite OT the mirrorless party.

2012-12-18 Thread P. J. Alling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO7rxitFLZg

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 LOL Bob. Unfortunately. You may very well be right. Just look at the
 rights' we implicitly have waved by using the internet, smart phones,
 and GPS, It's a gradual slide into having no or little individual
 rights.

Doug Franklin wrote:

 I've seen a commentary or two lately that claim, with some historical 
 backing, that personal privacy was an aberration of Western society in the 
 19th and 20th centuries, as
 compared to the rest of human history.

Doug, mind your own business. :)

Tom C.

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Re: GESO: Lane Motor Museum

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
What Bob said.

Whew, someone else said it  so I don't have to. Yup, looks like some nice 
images, but way, way too time  consuming for me to look at them all. Or even 
more than one.

You have to  bear in mind that PDMlers are busy people and that looking at 
other's photos is  a courtesy and some may look at even one photo (PESO) 
very quickly. GESO's,  because they are galleries, are usually looked at fewer 
anyway for that reason.  So anything that cuts down the overhead for others 
is good.

Marnie aka  Doe 

In a message dated 12/17/2012 8:00:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Jeffery,
This gallery set-up sucks.
I can  see 52 thumbnails which take me to a 'Buy This'.image page.
And no link to  the next image.
I don't know why I would look, then back-up then look again  52 times.
Sorry for the frank commentary...
Regards,  Bob  S.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jeffery  Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 We made a trip  to the Lane Motor Museum here in Nashville.

 The Lane  Motor  Museum was established in 2002, by Jeff Lane, in 
Nashville,
 Tennessee.  It features the largest collection of European vehicles in the
 United  States. Though they have over 330 vehicles they only have on 
average
 150  cars and motorcycles, not typically seen in the U.S., on  display

 The Museum is housed in a former 132,000 square foot  bakery. The 
majority of
 the vehicles were built in the 1950s through  1970s but they do have some
 from the 20's and as current as  2000.

 Here is a link to the gallery:
  http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p948336739

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 Photo Captures by Jeffery  http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com  


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Re: PESO: Blanket

2012-12-18 Thread Eactivist
Nice close up and it does absolutely nothing for  me.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)  (Never sure if people only want  positive 
comments.)

In a message dated 12/18/2012 7:35:18 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
danmaty...@gmail.com  writes:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16677336

Dan  Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola  


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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Tom C
 Doug Franklin wrote:

 I've seen a commentary or two lately that claim, with some historical 
 backing, that personal privacy was an aberration of Western
 society in the 19th and 20th centuries, as
 compared to the rest of human history.

In what way I ask. There's certainly much I don't know. Are you
referring to the concept of personal privacy or the state of personal
privacy (i.e. the ease with which it can be invaded and trampled
upon)?  I understand privacy can be invaded in any number of ways, but
never in human history have major portions of populations, via
technology, enabled powers to clandestinely track them, including
their whereabouts, contacts, purchases, transactions, etc.

Tom C.

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Re: PESO: Blanket

2012-12-18 Thread kwaller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: eactiv...@aol.com

Subject: Re: PESO: Blanket



Nice close up and it does absolutely nothing for  me.



Well you're not the only one Marnie.

I think Dan needs to take a trip and find some subject matteror at least 
get out of the house more often.





HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)  (Never sure if people only want  positive
comments.)

In a message dated 12/18/2012 7:35:18 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time,
danmaty...@gmail.com  writes:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16677336

Dan  Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread David Mann
On Dec 19, 2012, at 4:07 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:

 Under the new policy, Facebook claims the perpetual right to license
 all public Instagram photos to companies or any other organization,
 including for advertising purposes, which would effectively transform
 the Web site into the world’s largest stock photo agency.
 
 http://www.slrlounge.com/instagram-now-has-the-right-to-sell-your-photos

So what happens if they use a photo of me when I haven't signed a model release?

(Not that I have an Instagram account, nor do I aspire to.)

Dave


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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread David Mann
On Dec 19, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 It becomes a war of attrition as these greedy bastards do their damndest to
 fuck the ordinary people every which way in pursuit of their filthy lucre.

And if they fail they'll have another go in a few years time.

Dave


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PESO: Santa and Frosty

2012-12-18 Thread David Parsons
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8286681236/

Santa and Frosty are ready for Christmas.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-18 23:23, Tom C wrote:


In what way I ask. There's certainly much I don't know. Are you
referring to the concept of personal privacy or the state of personal
privacy (i.e. the ease with which it can be invaded and trampled
upon)?  I understand privacy can be invaded in any number of ways, but
never in human history have major portions of populations, via
technology, enabled powers to clandestinely track them, including
their whereabouts, contacts, purchases, transactions, etc.


If I understand the argument correctly, it's about expectation of 
privacy.  The argument seems to go along the lines of how, outside 
fairly recent Western societies, privacy didn't really exist due to the 
living conditions, to the extent that no one really thought much about 
it, much less agonized over whether it was a right, a privilege, a 
circumstance, or a symptom.


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NutDriver Racing
http://NutDriver.org
Facebook NutDriver Racing
Sponsored by Murphy


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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-18 23:53, Tom C wrote:

When I wrote clandestinely track them, I meant the ability to, or to
back-trace an individual, were the desire to do so arise.


If you're on the internet, or have a cell phone, you're almost certainly 
trackable.  Almost because you can do those things and remain 
untrackable, but it takes a significant amount of effort.


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PESO Ziggy and Julie

2012-12-18 Thread Larry Colen
Since we've been talking about K-5 high ISO performance:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/8285822107

K-5, FA77  ISO 12,800  f/1.8  1/13 Sec 

It was at a party and concert for Ziggy's 40th birthday.  I took most of the 
photos that night with the 80-200/2.8.  At first, when I was going over the 
shots, I was lamenting all of the ones I lost because I blew the manual 
focusing.  Then I looked at the ones I took with the FA77 of the musicians on 
stage.  Almost every one of them was focused perfectly on some piece of clutter 
on the stage, rather than on the performers.  While I am sure that the improved 
low light focusing of the K5-II would certainly come in handy, the thing that I 
most desperately need is more focusing points, that cover smaller areas.

If anyone is interested in the whole set:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632279369283/

Most of them were shot between ISO 5,000 and 8,000.  
IMGP is the K-x  LRC are the K-5.

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Re: OT- Instagram now has right to sell your photos...

2012-12-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

On 2012-12-18 22:17, John Sessoms wrote:

The essential difference between Fascism  Communism is that under
Fascism the government tells the people what to do and under Communism
the people are told what to do by the government.


I've long been under the impression that, at least as practiced by the
Germans and Italians in the 1920s-1940s, the difference was that fascism
was based on (allegedly) what's good for the peasant folk versus
communism's (allegedly) what's good for everyone, in both cases, as
judged by the powers that be.


Soviet style Marxist-Leninist communism was what's good for the
proletariat - supposedly the workers.

Russia had several different flavors of communists after the revolution.
Eventually the Bolsheviks won out and killed off all the others.

In action, both systems created a new governing class made up of the
party faithful to serve the interests of the peasant-folk/workers. And
for some reason the interests of the peasant-folk/workers was almost
always what most benefited the new governing class.

Whatever the differences in the guiding philosophical principles of
Fascism  Communism, when viewed from the lower social strata looking
up, they appear remarkably similar.

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PESO: Wintersun

2012-12-18 Thread Tim Bray
What the title says:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/12/18/-big/IMG_0358.jpg.html

I got super-busy and had to ignore PDML for a couple weeks. That's a
real quality-of-life problem, as in I missed you.  -T

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Re: PESO: Santa and Frosty

2012-12-18 Thread Tim Bray
My feelings about this picture (which, as a picture, is excellent) are
complex. I suspect I’m not alone. -T

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8286681236/

 Santa and Frosty are ready for Christmas.

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Re: PESO Ziggy and Julie

2012-12-18 Thread Tim Bray
Wow, the hands (pity about the watch, but still). Glad you were there
to catch that. -T

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Since we've been talking about K-5 high ISO performance:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/8285822107

 K-5, FA77  ISO 12,800  f/1.8  1/13 Sec

 It was at a party and concert for Ziggy's 40th birthday.  I took most of the 
 photos that night with the 80-200/2.8.  At first, when I was going over the 
 shots, I was lamenting all of the ones I lost because I blew the manual 
 focusing.  Then I looked at the ones I took with the FA77 of the musicians on 
 stage.  Almost every one of them was focused perfectly on some piece of 
 clutter on the stage, rather than on the performers.  While I am sure that 
 the improved low light focusing of the K5-II would certainly come in handy, 
 the thing that I most desperately need is more focusing points, that cover 
 smaller areas.

 If anyone is interested in the whole set:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632279369283/

 Most of them were shot between ISO 5,000 and 8,000.
 IMGP is the K-x  LRC are the K-5.

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