GESO Motorcycle Track day

2013-02-11 Thread Philip Northeast


It was a nice day for a ride so I took my new Bonneville out to the 
local track, parked it safely. Unpacked the K5 and Sigma 120-400 zoom 
and took my first motorcycle track shots in a long time.


http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2013/02/11/motorcycle-track-day-baskervile/


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PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Walt
So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her 
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in 
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing 
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.


I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. 
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.


I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Walt wrote:

 So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her 
 about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some 
 motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last 
 photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.
 
 I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. 
 Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
 K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

She can flash me any time she wants.

I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a 
strobe.

 
 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
 remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.
 
 I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

Just a shot in the dark?

 

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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've never done that, and haven't had a problem with corrosion. I find the 
worst case for condensation is going from an air conditioned house to outdoors 
on a hot humid summer day. Coming indoors in the winter results in only mild 
condensation, if any, since indoor air is dry. I'm sure having a sealed camera 
is a bonus. But, as I said, I've never taken those precautions in 40 years of 
shooting with dozens of cameras. No problems that I noticed ever resulted from 
my lack of care.

Love your neighborhood. Nice pics.

Paul
On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...
 
 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/
 
 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Determine a nice exposure with your K-5 and duplicate that with the slide film. 
Exposing for highlights is fine if you apply some zone thinking, but you 
definitely don't want to aim a center weighted meter at the sky to determine 
exposure. You'll be critically underexposed. If you must use the center 
weighted meter, find a neutral area of the scene, such as green grass or a grey 
wall to fill the frame when determining your exposure, then bracket in half 
stops. Unlike some other slide films, Velvia is awful when underexposed by even 
half a stop.
Paul
On Feb 11, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the other day 
 through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and 
 what not. Since I will likely  be  using an older 50mm mostly, I will just 
 have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you 
 expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm 
 asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more 
 on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter 
 since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for 
 this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I 
 think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare 
 digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing 
 that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard 
 correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film
 is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are 
 some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I 
 can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the 
 challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a 
 bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120.
 
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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I wouldn't take film, particularly if you haven't been shooting it regularly. 
Take your *istD and a backup digital point and shoot if you can -- or a good 
phone camera. My iPhone 5 is as good as the point and shoots of just a few 
years ago.

Paul
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, dgl...@panix.com (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.) wrote:

 Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another.  Sorry
 for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been
 discussing.
 
 In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be
 her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only 
 time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I
 can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own.
 
 I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to 
 copy the CF cards onto ...
 
 Here's the question:  given that I've shot very little film recently
 (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_
 have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing,
 do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow?
 
 My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
 for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
 means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
 of film.  And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one
 DSLR.
 
 (If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip
 the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a.  Even as
 early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean,
 right?)
 
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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread David Parsons
Like Paul, I've only had a problem going from a heavily AC'd hotel
room to very hot and humid outside (Aruba, any time of the year).  It
doesn't really matter if the camera is sealed or not, because the
internals aren't filled with inert, dry gasses, they are filled with
ambient air that is locked into the camera when the lens is on.  I've
had to wait at least half an hour before the heaviest condensation has
cleared, and wiping it off does nothing.

I don't do extensive outdoor shooting when it's really cold out, but I
just leave the camera in my camera bag for a while to allow it to
acclimate.  If I want the pictures right away, I take out the card and
leave the camera in the bag.  Never had a problem doing it this way.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
 -c

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Sorenson
Very nice, Walt.  Reminds me of the following conversation...

He - after noticing how tight her clothing is...How does one get into a pair 
of jeans like that?

She -  We'll, you can start by buying me a drink.

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her 
 about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some 
 motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last 
 photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.
 
 I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. 
 Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
 K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200
 
 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
 remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.
 
 I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).
 
 -- Walt
 
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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

2013-02-11 Thread Mark C

Thanks, Larry! Good camera - yeah! - K-01!


On 2/10/2013 8:23 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Mark C wrote:


Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:

http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

If I didn't know better, I'd think you knew what you were doing.  You must have 
a really good camera!



Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals

The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there 
for the looking.

Awesome job.  You can make even cold weather seem appealing.

How big are they?  Inches across or millimeters?


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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

2013-02-11 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Paul, and to everyone else who took a look. I'm glad that this 
winter was not a total bust, like last year.


Mark

On 2/10/2013 7:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Superb, as always. In fact, better than always. A wow.

Paul
On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:


Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:

http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals

The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there 
for the looking.

Cheers -

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
I thionk this works well

Dave

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
 about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some
 motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last
 photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

 I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
 Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
 K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
 remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

 I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

 -- Walt

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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
Super

Dave

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:

 http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

 Permalink:

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals

 The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's
 there for the looking.

 Cheers -

 Mark

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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
If its really cold, i will wrap the unit in a towel and bring it
inside, slowly opening the towel over several hours. If it like this
past weekend, -10C or so, i just bring it in and keep it by one of my
drafty windows


Dave

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
 -c

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Re: PESO 2013 - Robot II First Roll - GDG

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
looks good

Dave

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 I took my walk on Saturday with my latest in camera acquisitions in my hands: 
 a vintage 1941 Robot II. One of the challenges of using this camera was 
 figuring out how to scan the 24x24mm format negatives efficiently. Took a bit 
 of trial and error, but I got VueScan to drive the Nikon Coolscan V film 
 scanner just right, to the point where I can scan a seven frame strip in less 
 than ten minutes.

 I'm pleased with how this first roll has come out. This is the unedited scan 
 index sheet:

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8464414230/lightbox

 The camera is a delight to use. Wind it up and you can shoot up to a dozen or 
 more exposures as fast as you can press the shutter release. Great for 
 capturing those fast moving facial expressions and moving subjects. I'm going 
 to have a lot of fun with it.

 enjoy!

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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
Nice, this reminds me why i only bike from May to Oct.

Dave

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was 
 working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there 
 were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed 
 early so the messengers spent a lot of standing by.

 This is the only environmental portrait I got. Jason's attire reminded me 
 of armour, hence the title:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Pretty Girls

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
and fashionable

Dave

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 On the street in Birmingham this afternoon:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293size=lg

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Re: PAW--Week 6 2013

2013-02-11 Thread David J Brooks
great

Dave

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 Happy Valentines day, Everyone!  Cheers, Christine

 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html

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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Most slide films seem to give a slightly better rendition if you 
underexpose about a third to a half stop, but not all and I never used 
Velvia that much, I didn't like the over-saturated colors, so I can't 
say for sure if it will benefit, much from underexposure.


When I have been shooting film lately it's been with a meterless medium 
format camera, (Kodak Medalist II) 8 frames per roll at an average of 
$4,50 per roll before processing so I don't want to waste many frames. 
I've been using the K20D as a light-meter and Polaroid test shot 
combined. The K20D may be better than the K-5 for this as it's more 
likely to blow the highlights than the K-5 but the K-5 does have a 
better metering system. This may not be directly applicable to you since 
I've been shooting 6x9 frames of BW, but if the histogram on the K20D 
looks good the negative pretty much looks good.


On 2/11/2013 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the other day 
through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and 
what not. Since I will likely  be  using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have 
center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose 
mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, 
should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky 
and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would 
likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I 
still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going 
to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide 
film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be 
developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will 
probably start with the porta first. My experience with film
is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are 
some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I 
can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the 
challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit 
more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120.




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Re: PESO - Proud Parents

2013-02-11 Thread P. J. Alling

So much more disposable than real children...

On 2/10/2013 3:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

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RE: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
somebody ought to invent a new light meter that has
an LCD screen to check exposure and give a histogram
based on the scene...That way you wouldnt need to lug
around a whole dslr to do the job.

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Most slide films seem to give a slightly better rendition if you 
underexpose about a third to a half stop, but not all and I never used 
Velvia that much, I didn't like the over-saturated colors, so I can't 
say for sure if it will benefit, much from underexposure.

When I have been shooting film lately it's been with a meterless medium 
format camera, (Kodak Medalist II) 8 frames per roll at an average of 
$4,50 per roll before processing so I don't want to waste many frames. 
I've been using the K20D as a light-meter and Polaroid test shot 
combined. The K20D may be better than the K-5 for this as it's more 
likely to blow the highlights than the K-5 but the K-5 does have a 
better metering system. This may not be directly applicable to you since 
I've been shooting 6x9 frames of BW, but if the histogram on the K20D 
looks good the negative pretty much looks good.

On 2/11/2013 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
 I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the other
day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes
and what not. Since I will likely  be  using an older 50mm mostly, I will
just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide
film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I
guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to
center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to
spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of
a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so
I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro
160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of
production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first.
My experience with film
 is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there
are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital
cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking
at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120.



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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
I used to see the condensation problem with the PZ-1 and mechanical cameras.
After getting the mirror, back of the lens, and prism wet, I was more
careful. (bag it)
The only real problem I had was with a new PZ-1 at a pig roast.
The electronics died after shooting 30 minutes in the hot steam/smoke.
Love your neighborhood pictures.
15 inches is not too much snow.
And that must be the crazy running son!  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
 -c

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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks Paul, David  David...

I am comforted to know that you haven't had any issues, especially
since I only sporadically follow that recommendation.  I usually do
something like Davids described, leaving it in the camera bag for a
while to acclimate...  conditions inside my house are usually like
outside, anyway -- cold  dry in winter, warm  muggy in summer.

:)
-c



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 I've never done that, and haven't had a problem with corrosion. I find the 
 worst case for condensation is going from an air conditioned house to 
 outdoors on a hot humid summer day. Coming indoors in the winter results in 
 only mild condensation, if any, since indoor air is dry. I'm sure having a 
 sealed camera is a bonus. But, as I said, I've never taken those precautions 
 in 40 years of shooting with dozens of cameras. No problems that I noticed 
 ever resulted from my lack of care.

 Love your neighborhood. Nice pics.

 Paul
 On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:

 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
 -c

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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks, Bob.  I'll take extra care at pig roasts!

Yes, that's Nick.  He had been running on the treadmill indoors, and
had just quit  was strutting around the kitchen shirtless, foraging
for food, as is his usual m.o.  I dared him to run outside like that,
and he took off... He ran up  down the block, eliciting hoots  honks
from passing cars.   Ah, to be 17...  :)

And you're right about the snow total... but I wonder if my measuring
technique was flawed... I looked for open spaces, not drifts.  Maybe
in those areas the lighter top layer of snow had blown into the
drifts?  Hard to say, many of the reported local totals were more like
22 inches, so who knows?  The roads have been a mess, and no school
again today.

:)
-c



On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Christine,
 I used to see the condensation problem with the PZ-1 and mechanical cameras.
 After getting the mirror, back of the lens, and prism wet, I was more
 careful. (bag it)
 The only real problem I had was with a new PZ-1 at a pig roast.
 The electronics died after shooting 30 minutes in the hot steam/smoke.
 Love your neighborhood pictures.
 15 inches is not too much snow.
 And that must be the crazy running son!  :-)
 Regards,  Bob S.


 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net 
 wrote:
 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
 -c

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Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie

Ooh! Great on every level and criteria.





On 2/9/2013 3:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On the hill at Booth Park this afternoon:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16891132size=lg



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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 82, Issue 68

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie
Interesting crop and odd subject, obviously. I like the coloring in one 
way but it makes the tone lighter and less eerie. Oh well made me think.



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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:19:04 -0600
From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com
To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PAW--Week 6 2013
Message-ID:de1b1939-246a-4e59-9556-14bbed553...@caguila.com
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Happy Valentines day, Everyone!  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html



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RE: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread John Sessoms
Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in 
terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. 
Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does 
digital.


If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the 
film,  set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable 
for determining exposure.


That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, 
using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along a 
hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film  how they'd 
been stored, they both came out pretty good.


From: Zos Xavius

I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the
other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly
tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely  be  using an
older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my
disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights
since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just
have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and
lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I
would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for
this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the
k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak
porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I
know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably
start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited
since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some
film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras
I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm
looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to
120.


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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie
I like sunrise photos; I've never seen an actual sunrise. Glad you were 
out and about to capture this one.




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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:12:00 + (UTC)
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To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the
Beatles)
Message-ID:

509152332.57647.1360509131076.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1

Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do, too.

Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie

Love the kung fu snow fighter look. Back on your game Frank. Good one.

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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:39:46 + (UTC)
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To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)
Message-ID:

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I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was working and 
spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there were far fewer messengers 
on the road. Many clients were closed or closed early so the messengers spent a lot of 
standing by.

This is the only environmental portrait I got. Jason's attire reminded me of 
armour, hence the title:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)

2013-02-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Don,
'never seen an actual sunrise' - good grief man!  Buy an alarm clock
and see one.
The hour before and after sunrise are great times for shooting with that K-5.
The newspaper or the weather on the internet can give you the sunrise time.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like sunrise photos; I've never seen an actual sunrise. Glad you were out
 and about to capture this one.



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 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:12:00 + (UTC)
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 To:PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the
 Beatles)
 Message-ID:

 509152332.57647.1360509131076.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago:

   http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1

 Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do, too.

 Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Proud Parents

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie
As a dog lover the the closeup of the dogs maybe me smile and you made 
good use of the k-5. This photo of the dogs in a stroller made wish for 
the dignity of a cat. But the photographer in me says kudos for both 
pictures.



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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898335



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Re: Peso On such a winters day

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks for looking Bob. Alas the sky was about to start dropping snow 
flakes (too tiny for Mark C.) so grey was the color of the day. Anytime 
LeeAnne wants to come stand in an cornfield my K-5 is ever ready to do 
its duty.


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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:49:18 -0600
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Subject: Re: Peso On such a winters day
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Don,
Nice picture.  Not as nice as LeeAnne, but still quite good.
I wish the sky had something going on in it, and
that you had all the tree branches to the right.
It may be dreary, but that's winter.
The barn, the tree, and the flat, wide open fields are what a midwest
winter is about.
Regards,  Bob S.


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Looks like a slow Friday. Here's a dreary winter scene from last weekend to
darken your day. CC always taken in the spirit it is given.

http://donspix.posterous.com/sometime-the-winter-in-the-midwest-without-sn#!/




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OT: ImpressionFX

2013-02-11 Thread Jens
Anyone using the fileters from the ImpressionFX Paint Engine?
Regards
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OT - For Christine A

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Sorenson

Sent you an off list message a couple days ago.  Did it end get to you?

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Re: OT - For Christine A

2013-02-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, just looked for it and will respond off list.  Thanks,  Paul for the heads 
up.  Didn't see it earlier.  Big cheers, Christibe



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Re: OT: ImpressionFX

2013-02-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Jens, I wrote off list about the nec pinwriter - I do have a power cord 
for it nad it does power up - if you want it, fine but if not please let 
me know so I can put it back in the closet - it's awfully heavy


LEt me know at least if you actually got the off list mail and it didn't 
end up in your spam folder :-)


ann


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Anyone using the fileters from the ImpressionFX Paint Engine?
Regards
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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

The flash shot looks fine...

steady on, Walt :-)
ann


On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote:

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt



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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Nice little gallery!  beauty, and humor.
In answer to your question - yup - when it drops below ,um, 45 degrees f 
at least I always bring a baggie, ziplock or other wise and rubberbands 
to immediately enclose the camera before going inside - anywhere. 
Whether or not (no pun) I even shot anything or plan to
remove the card. Got in that habit with film cameras and anything that 
would be affected by condensation I'd say should be treated that way.


I had my friend from Ipswich visiting here since last Wed.  He was 
supposed to leave Sunday morning but happily the Megabus was cancelled 
so I had him for another day :-).


Part of his visit was work related but that didn't take a lot of his time.

Minor downside was I didn't get to Tompkins square park in the best
light for snaps.. and here , right in Manhattan, we basically dodged
a bullet on this storm - snow practically gone already from my 
neighborhood.


ann



On 2/10/2013 23:09, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Hi all,

The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

Anyway, a few shots here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

Now for my question...
I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
1) How many of you do this?
2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

Thanks for your thoughts...
:)
-c



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Re: GESO and praise for the K-01

2013-02-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Checked in on all of them  - still amazed at the process - fascinated by 
the crystal structure - like the more subtle backgrounds the best.

very pretty!

ann

On 2/2/2013 18:47, Mark C wrote:

It snowed a bit this morning and I had chance to test out the K-01 for
snow crystals. This camera well exceeded my expectations! Between focus
peaking and the ability to zoom in on the screen, focusing was very fast
and easy. I was able to get clear shots, move on, get more. Focus
peaking is a HUGE advantage for this kind of work because it allows you
to see what is in focus and fine tune the focus to maximize DOF.  It
made the morning very productive - in about 2 hours of shooting I got at
least 10 good images.  Image quality from the K-01 seems to be right
there with the K-5.

I put 4 shots from this morning on my blog, will be posted a couple more
batches this week as well:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2013-snow-crystals-round-2

All images were shot with the K-01, a Sigma 50mm f2.8 EX macro, and
extension. The snow was very variable in size today, so I used all the
extension that I have (about 230mm) for a few shots, and only about 50mm
for a few other. Plus everything in between.

I should comment that the second crystal in that post was very small and
was shot with 230mm of extension - tubes and bellows.  That is where the
focusing peaking really shined. WIth all that extension a finder is so
dark you can barely see, and with live view and no focus peaking it is
very difficult to see what is in focus. The K-01 made it simple and easy
to focus on that little bugger.

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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Christine Nielsen
Thanks, Ann!

Glad to hear you made it through the storm ok, and that you've been
pleasantly occupied with your friend.  He picked the right weekend to
get out of town!

:)
-c

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Nice little gallery!  beauty, and humor.
 In answer to your question - yup - when it drops below ,um, 45 degrees f at
 least I always bring a baggie, ziplock or other wise and rubberbands to
 immediately enclose the camera before going inside - anywhere. Whether or
 not (no pun) I even shot anything or plan to
 remove the card. Got in that habit with film cameras and anything that would
 be affected by condensation I'd say should be treated that way.

 I had my friend from Ipswich visiting here since last Wed.  He was supposed
 to leave Sunday morning but happily the Megabus was cancelled so I had him
 for another day :-).

 Part of his visit was work related but that didn't take a lot of his time.

 Minor downside was I didn't get to Tompkins square park in the best
 light for snaps.. and here , right in Manhattan, we basically dodged
 a bullet on this storm - snow practically gone already from my neighborhood.

 ann




 On 2/10/2013 23:09, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
 -c


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Re: Instagram photos of North East Storm

2013-02-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I replied to Christine N's post of photos - basically here not a problem 
at all (you'll see why if you read the other email I sent :-)


ann

On 2/9/2013 10:17, Christine Aguila wrote:


The NYT posted this on the storm.  Any word for our PDMLers on the east coast?  
 Cheers, Christine

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/02/08/us/the-storm-on-instagram.html?ref=nyregion



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Re: PESO 2013 - Robot II First Roll - GDG

2013-02-11 Thread Darren Addy
It is a cute camera! Seeing your contact sheet made me nostalgic. My
first darkroom in decades is about to see first dark. Just need to
finish the PVC pipe base for my darkroom sink that can be broken down
for storage.

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Walt



She can flash me any time she wants.

I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a 
strobe.
I haven't had a chance to talk to her much just yet, as she's been 
coming in during the busiest parts of my nights lately. But, from what I 
can tell, she's a lot of fun.


And I'm pretty sure that vertical smile could light up a room, too!




I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

Just a shot in the dark?
Heh. If I get a shot with her in the dark, I'll likely be putting the 
camera down.



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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Walt

Thanks, Paul!

I may ask her that the next time I see her -- likely tonight. And I'll 
buy her a drink or five.


-- Walt

On 2/11/2013 6:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Very nice, Walt.  Reminds me of the following conversation...

He - after noticing how tight her clothing is...How does one get into a pair of 
jeans like that?

She -  We'll, you can start by buying me a drink.

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:


So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about 
whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some 
motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last 
photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, 
the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Walt

Thanks, Dave.

I'm always skeptical about using flash, as I've gotten so used to 
shooting in available light and just don't know enough about flash 
photography to feel comfortable trying it.


-- Walt

On 2/11/2013 8:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

I thionk this works well

Dave

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some
motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last
photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Walt

Thank you, Ann. :)

One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a 
hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it.


It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've 
always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest 
in shooting when flash is required.


-- Walt

On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The flash shot looks fine...

steady on, Walt :-)
ann


On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote:

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the 
results:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt






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Re: GESO - Snow Crystals

2013-02-11 Thread kwaller
Nice work as usual Mark. Those two of those three seem very different from 
others you've posted.

Nice to see you've helped youself with the new body.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net

Subject: GESO - Snow Crystals



Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:

http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals

The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's 
there for the looking.


Cheers -

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Walt



She can flash me any time she wants.

I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a 
strobe.
I haven't had a chance to talk to her much just yet, as she's been 
coming in during the busiest parts of my nights lately. But, from what I 
can tell, she's a lot of fun.


And I'm pretty sure that vertical smile could light up a room, too!


I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

Just a shot in the dark?
Heh. If I get a shot with her in the dark, I'll likely be putting the 
camera down.

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RE: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread Bob W
It depends on how long you're going for, and how important it is to you. 

When I went to Fez in Morocco a few years ago I took my Olympus E-3, but
forgot my battery charger. It proved very difficult to find a new one - I
searched for several days before I found a Chinese knock-off version. One
the other hand, there was plenty of film around. 

Having also seen someone in tears in Ethiopia once because she couldn't
charge her (film) camera and therefore wouldn't get any pictures of an
expensive, once-in-a-lifetime trip, I figure that you should try and cover
all the bases as best you reasonably can. 

So if you can take a manual film body which can use the same lenses as your
digital camera, which is necessarily electronic, then you should be good
against most eventualities. And since you already have some film it would
probably be a good idea to take it. If you don't use it, no harm is done.

B

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of D. Glenn Arthur
 Jr.
[...]
 
 In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be
 her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only
 time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I
 can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own.
 
 I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to
 copy the CF cards onto ...
 
 Here's the question:  given that I've shot very little film recently
 (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I
 _still_ have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for
 developing, do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me
 anyhow?
 
 My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
 for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
 means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
 of film.  And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one
 DSLR.
 
[...]


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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and, the, Beatles)

2013-02-11 Thread Don Guthrie


Oh Bob I have always made it a policy to get home before dawn no matter 
how much fun I might be having.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:09:39 -0600
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Subject: Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and
the, Beatles)
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Don,
'never seen an actual sunrise' - good grief man!  Buy an alarm clock
and see one.
The hour before and after sunrise are great times for shooting with that K-5.
The newspaper or the weather on the internet can give you the sunrise time.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

I like sunrise photos; I've never seen an actual sunrise. Glad you were out
and about to capture this one.





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Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath

2013-02-11 Thread David Parsons
There are several lower trunks that are bent sideways that I may need
to tie together to get them back vertical.  It's a hardy thing though,
when we bought the house (7.5 years ago), it was as tall as the fence
behind it, now it's 10-12 feet taller.

We slept a lot, when we weren't listening to WBZ on 10 minute loops.
I kept walking into rooms and flipping the light switches out of pure
reflex.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Dave, your arborvitae looks pretty good... mine is bent in half, and
 buried in a snowdrift.  I hope this is the storm that finally kills
 it.  ;)

 Glad you are back on the grid.  Going pioneer-style loses its charm
 pretty quick when the house gets that cold.

 :)
 -c

 On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 We got at least 24 inches (hard to tell for sure with drifting) in
 Quincy (just south of Boston).  Lost power for 20 hours and
 cable/phone/internet for 22 hours.

 Power came back about 20 minutes after I finished digging the car out.
  If it hadn't come back, we were going to find some place warm to go.
 The temp inside the house was 48 when we got power back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460452468/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460454326/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460455680/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460458108/

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RE: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Zos Xavius
Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use 
that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose 
ever so slightly.  This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 67. 
 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film.

John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in 
terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. 
Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does 
digital.

If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the 
film,  set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable

for determining exposure.

That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, 
using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along
a 
hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film  how they'd 
been stored, they both came out pretty good.

From: Zos Xavius
 I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the
 other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly
 tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely  be  using an
 older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my
 disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights
 since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just
 have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and
 lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I
 would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for
 this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
 developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the
 k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak
 porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I
 know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably
 start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited
 since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some
 film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras
 I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
 of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm
 looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to
 120.


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PESO: 'Red Bumper

2013-02-11 Thread kwaller
Captured harborside in Petersburg, Alaska, a boat bumper on a commercial 
fisher.  - K20D, 28-80mm SMC  F, 1/2000 @ f8, 400 ISO.


Thanks in advance for comments/critiques.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16887092

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote:

Thank you, Ann. :)

One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a
hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it.


I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing
stuff for ebay.


It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've
always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest
in shooting when flash is required.

-- Walt
I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet 
have a camera with higher ISO :-)


ann




On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The flash shot looks fine...

steady on, Walt :-)
ann


On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote:

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the
results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

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FS Friday: Pentax-F 100mm f2.8 macro and a LN Pentax Auto Bellows Set

2013-02-11 Thread Darren Addy
Posted in flagrant violation of the PDML charter (do we *have* a charter?)
Just trying to make your Monday feel like a Friday. Actually, I need
to raise funds quick for a Very Special Purchase.

PDML price on the F100 macro: $475 (plus actual shipping). Will be
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The Auto Bellow set is M42 and appears to have literally been used
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PDML price $69 plus actual shipping.

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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
You don't want to underexposed Velvia. The result will be garish with lost 
detail.

Paul via phone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use 
 that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose 
 ever so slightly.  This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 
 67.  35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film.
 
 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in 
 terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. 
 Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does 
 digital.
 
 If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the 
 film,  set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable
 
 for determining exposure.
 
 That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, 
 using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along
 a 
 hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film  how they'd 
 been stored, they both came out pretty good.
 
 From: Zos Xavius
 I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the
 other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly
 tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely  be  using an
 older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my
 disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights
 since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just
 have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and
 lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I
 would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for
 this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
 developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the
 k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak
 porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I
 know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably
 start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited
 since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some
 film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras
 I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
 of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm
 looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to
 120.
 
 
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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 You don't want to underexposed Velvia. The result will be garish with lost 
 detail.

As opposed to the desired Velvia result: garish with fine detail.

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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)

2013-02-11 Thread Darren Addy
Most of my sunrise pictures are actually sunsets that I have flipped
horizontally in Photoshop. As long as there are no compasses in the
photograph, nobody's the wiser  alarm clocks are not required.

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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I had some success shooting cars on Velvia 6 x 7, with dead on or slightly over 
exposures. But I always shot some Provia or ektachrome as backup.

Paul via phone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 You don't want to underexposed Velvia. The result will be garish with lost 
 detail.
 
 As opposed to the desired Velvia result: garish with fine detail.
 
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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
No URL?

Paul via phone

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CibaChrome is dead.

2013-02-11 Thread P. J. Alling
It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In 
combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could 
produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last 
year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to 
falling demand. A moment of silence please...


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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On a trip like that, I'd carry one camera that I was thoroughly
comfortable and familiar with, and a small, light camera just in
case and for when the regular camera is too much to carry along.

If you've got a freezer full of film that you haven't processed yet
for lack of funds or time or energy, what's the point of shooting film
that will just add to what you put in the freezer? Doesn't make any
sense.

G

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:16 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. dgl...@panix.com wrote:
 Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another.  Sorry
 for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been
 discussing.

 In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be
 her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only
 time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I
 can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own.

 I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to
 copy the CF cards onto ...

 Here's the question:  given that I've shot very little film recently
 (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_
 have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing,
 do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow?

 My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
 for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
 means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
 of film.  And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one
 DSLR.

 (If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip
 the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a.  Even as
 early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean,
 right?)

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RE: CibaChrome is dead.

2013-02-11 Thread Bob W
I blame the Pope.

B

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling
 
 It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In
 combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could
 produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last
 year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to
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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Modern LCD-based lightmeters already do this. The LCD displays the
histogram of the single pixel behind the white dome, not as a bar
graph but in convenient f-stops or EV.

;-)


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 somebody ought to invent a new light meter that has
 an LCD screen to check exposure and give a histogram
 based on the scene...That way you wouldnt need to lug
 around a whole dslr to do the job.

 -
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 hifis...@gate.net
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 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling
 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:21 AM
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 Subject: Re: Some slide film advice?

 Most slide films seem to give a slightly better rendition if you
 underexpose about a third to a half stop, but not all and I never used
 Velvia that much, I didn't like the over-saturated colors, so I can't
 say for sure if it will benefit, much from underexposure.

 When I have been shooting film lately it's been with a meterless medium
 format camera, (Kodak Medalist II) 8 frames per roll at an average of
 $4,50 per roll before processing so I don't want to waste many frames.
 I've been using the K20D as a light-meter and Polaroid test shot
 combined. The K20D may be better than the K-5 for this as it's more
 likely to blow the highlights than the K-5 but the K-5 does have a
 better metering system. This may not be directly applicable to you since
 I've been shooting 6x9 frames of BW, but if the histogram on the K20D
 looks good the negative pretty much looks good.

 On 2/11/2013 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:
 I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the other
 day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes
 and what not. Since I will likely  be  using an older 50mm mostly, I will
 just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide
 film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I
 guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to
 center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to
 spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of
 a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
 developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so
 I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro
 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of
 production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first.
 My experience with film
 is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there
 are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital
 cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
 of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking
 at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120.



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Re: CibaChrome is dead.

2013-02-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I enjoyed making some Cibachrome prints 35 years ago. Still have one, and it 
still looks good.


Paul via phone

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 It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination 
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 beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were 
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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Walt, points to consider:

Like shooting from a tripod, adding in some artificial light can force
you to slow down and consider your shots -- not actually a bad thing.

Flash is not the only way to get extra light onto human subjects.
There are: light bounced from reflectors, incandescent or halogen
bulbs, LED panels, fluorescents, etc. If flash is intimidating because
of its transient nature, then continuous light is very easy to work
with and very familiar to you. They can be used with modifiers too.
Eg: I put LED panels into softboxes and umbrellas. A 160-LED panel and
a lightstand will cost you $50 these days at eBay or Amazon.

A little bit of extra light added to a scene can lift your image from
it's okay to oh wow. If your scene is lit by uniform flat light,
you can get a perfectly okay shot. But your eyes are drawn to lighter
areas or more contrasty areas, so if you take that flat shot and light
your subject's face by a half stop or more, you'll see how much better
it can become. Light becomes a part of the composition that you get to
control.

In the past I considered flash to be either unnecessary, too complex,
too expensive, or just annoying -- until I actually tried it, first
with one hotshoe flash then two and three. The very first time I tried
working in a studio, despite stumbling around like a complete noob, I
absolutely loved it. I took to it right away and saw how it opened up
a world of new possibilities.


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thank you, Ann. :)

 One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard
 time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it.

 It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always
 preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in
 shooting when flash is required.

 -- Walt


 On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 The flash shot looks fine...

 steady on, Walt :-)
 ann


 On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote:

 So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
 about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
 some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
 the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

 I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
 Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the
 results:

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
 K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
 remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

 I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

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Re: PESO - Pretty Girls

2013-02-11 Thread Mark C

Cute shot, Paul.

On 2/10/2013 3:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On the street in Birmingham this afternoon:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293size=lg




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Re: PESO: 'Red Bumper

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Like!  It helps that it reminds me of warmer weather too. :-)

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 Captured harborside in Petersburg, Alaska, a boat bumper on a commercial
 fisher.  - K20D, 28-80mm SMC  F, 1/2000 @ f8, 400 ISO.

 Thanks in advance for comments/critiques.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16887092

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Re: Good News?

2013-02-11 Thread P. J. Alling
Gee, that would be nice. I wonder if Milford Camera will try to get 
Pentax in again. Won't help that much really unless they are able to get 
into the big box and electronics stores with their entry level stuff as 
well.


On 2/1/2013 2:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
I stopped by one of the two local independents here in Raleigh today 
and the owner says he's in negotiations with Pentax to start carrying 
Pentax again if he can get a price point where he can actually make a 
profit on them.


This is the store that was a Pentax dealer when I got my *ist-D, but 
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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread Mark C
Assuming you are flying to Cyprus - you might want to check the 
airline's website and see if they have any advisories about film. The 
Xray machines can fog it, especially exposed rolls. But it has been 
years since I flew and took film, so maybe the xray machines are not so 
powerful these days. IIRC, the xrays machines used on checked luggage 
are worse than those used for your carry on bags. Of course, if you are 
not flying then it would not be an issue.


Personally, I'd take a light DSLR kit and a good digital PS. That would 
afford some back up (2 bodies) plus there are many situations where I 
prefer a small camera vs a full DSLR.


But - if you think you will really want to shoot film then you should 
bring film ;-)


Mark

On 2/11/2013 12:16 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another.  Sorry
for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been
discussing.

In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be
her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only
time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I
can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own.

I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to
copy the CF cards onto ...

Here's the question:  given that I've shot very little film recently
(only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_
have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing,
do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow?

My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
of film.  And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one
DSLR.

(If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip
the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a.  Even as
early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean,
right?)

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Re: PAW--Week 6 2013

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Unique, Christine. I like that a lot.

(I almost missed this. The almost unvarying subject pattern makes me
think I've already read it.)

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 Happy Valentines day, Everyone!  Cheers, Christine

 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html

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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread Mark C
Back in the day people used to routinely rate the old ISO 50 Velvia at 
ISO 40. I have never shot the ISO 100 Velvia so I can't offer much 
advice regarding it. Personally, I used to use center weighted averaging 
on a PZ-1p with slide film all the time, but the evaluative meting in 
that camera left much to be desired. If conditions allowed it I would 
spot meter and work out an exposure setting based on reading from the 
lightest and darkest area in the frame. Not the zone system since 
development never changed but rather just careful measurement and 
thinking through how the exposure will fit into the 5 to 7 stops of 
exposure latitude that slide film affords you.


Regarding the 67 - personally, I like color negative film in medium 
format. As you move up in format the fine grade of slide film is less of 
an advantage and not worth the trade off in lack of exposure latitude. 
Just my personal opinion.


Mark

On 2/11/2013 4:36 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use 
that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose 
ever so slightly.  This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 67. 
 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film.

John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in
terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights.
Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does
digital.

If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the
film,  set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable

for determining exposure.

That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China,
using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along
a
hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film  how they'd
been stored, they both came out pretty good.

From: Zos Xavius

I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100  that someone handed me the
other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly
tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely  be  using an
older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my
disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights
since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just
have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and
lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I
would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for
this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the
k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak
porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I
know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably
start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited
since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some
film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras
I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm
looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to
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Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Great gallery, Christine.

Yes, I do the camera warmup thing, mainly by leaving it in the closed
kit bag for an hour or so. Other non-sealed stuff I put in baggies
while they warm up; flashes, etc. Been okay so far.

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
 around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
 thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
 I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
 consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

 Anyway, a few shots here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

 Now for my question...
 I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
 with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
 temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
 in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
 camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
 1) How many of you do this?
 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
 Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

 Thanks for your thoughts...
 :)
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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread Mark Roberts
In a word, no.

Save your film use for controlled, close to home conditions - where
you can *enjoy* it. Air travel, x-rays and ignorant security personnel
will suck all the fun out of a travel film experience. Just bring a
DSLY, a couple of lenses and an fistful of memory cards and take
pleasure in the art of framing, focusing and getting the right
exposure. Save the ever increasing vagarities of the film experience
for times and places where you can return to have another go if
something doesn't work.
 
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Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Terrific and very attractive action shot, Paul.

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 On the hill at Booth Park this afternoon:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16891132size=lg

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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

In a word, no.

Save your film use for controlled, close to home conditions - where
you can *enjoy* it. Air travel, x-rays and ignorant security personnel
will suck all the fun out of a travel film experience. Just bring a
DSLY

I think that should be  DSLR, but if you can think of a creative
interpretation of DSLY go for it.
 
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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison, and, the, Beatles)

2013-02-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Don Guthrie


Oh Bob I have always made it a policy to get home before dawn no matter
how much fun I might be having.


Once I turned 40, I made it a firm, fast rule to always be in bed by 9:00pm

... or else go home.

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Re: Peso stones in snow

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Very good, Dave. Well exposed and I enjoy the look.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 From the small cemetery in Bloomington just north of Stouffville

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16903754

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread John Sessoms
Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from BH and the 
trigger voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should 
pardon the expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe.


It's pretty easy to figure out.

From: Ann Sanfedele


On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote:

Thank you, Ann. :)

One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a
hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it.


I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing
stuff for ebay.


It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've
always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest
in shooting when flash is required.

-- Walt

I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet
have a camera with higher ISO :-)

ann




On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The flash shot looks fine...

steady on, Walt :-)
ann


On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote:

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the
results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Larry Colen

 Thank you, Ann. :)

 One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a
 hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it.
You don't need to invest a lot to get a strobe well worth learning with.

I'd suggest a dumb manual strobe.  You can find them used for under $50.

You can pick up a cheap radio trigger pair for $20, or a hongkong strobe
extension cable for about the same.

ephotoinc has a strobe that screws into a lightbulb socket and will
trigger with either a PC cable or optically for about $20.  I think you'd
be better off with a dumb speedlight with adjustable power, and ideally,
optical trigger, though you can buy optical triggers for about $10.


 It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've
 always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest
 in shooting when flash is required.

I was very much in that frame of mind. There was so much to learn that it
was daunting.  I eventually picked up the strobist dvd set (with some
friends to share the cost) and he made a good point, that it was the
difference between taking a photo and making a photo.

I've lost track of the number of times that I've recommended light,
science  magic, probably a few of them to you.  That'll help with either
ambient or artificial light.  It will also help you understand the
difference between how a diffuser works and a fongdong (or a light grenade
as I call them, because they throw photons everywhere).

The problems with using a flash are that they can be really
obnoxious/distracting and if you don't know what you're doing you are
almost more likely to ruin a shot than get it right. Heretofore there are
a whole bunch of shots that were just impossible to get without a flash.
With a K-5 and occasionally being able to get shots with ISOs up to
25,600, that set has gotten orders of magnitude smaller than in the film
era.

I have found, however, that when I do manage to use a flash properly,
often just as supplemental lighting, it can improve the photos I get
tremendously. The most important thing that I've learned is to not put
light any place that I don't want it to be.  A simple snoot on a
speedlight, that just puts the light on a musician on stage, and doesn't
illuminate the crap in the background can really help.  Particularly if
you can balance the light on the musician with the light of the neon signs
or suchlike.

In other words, flash doesn't have to stupid expensive, and learning how
to use it can make a huge difference in your photos.  It'll also help you
learn how to use available light better.

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Re: Some slide film advice?

2013-02-11 Thread P. J. Alling

But, those gigantic chromes are beautiful.

On 2/11/2013 7:58 PM, Mark C wrote:
Back in the day people used to routinely rate the old ISO 50 Velvia at 
ISO 40. I have never shot the ISO 100 Velvia so I can't offer much 
advice regarding it. Personally, I used to use center weighted 
averaging on a PZ-1p with slide film all the time, but the evaluative 
meting in that camera left much to be desired. If conditions allowed 
it I would spot meter and work out an exposure setting based on 
reading from the lightest and darkest area in the frame. Not the zone 
system since development never changed but rather just careful 
measurement and thinking through how the exposure will fit into the 5 
to 7 stops of exposure latitude that slide film affords you.


Regarding the 67 - personally, I like color negative film in medium 
format. As you move up in format the fine grade of slide film is less 
of an advantage and not worth the trade off in lack of exposure 
latitude. Just my personal opinion.


Mark

On 2/11/2013 4:36 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will 
just use that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember 
to underexpose ever so slightly. This will be good practice for when 
I make the jump to a 67. 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to 
play with film.


John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in
terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights.
Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does
digital.

If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the
film,  set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable

for determining exposure.

That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China,
using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along
a
hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film  how they'd
been stored, they both came out pretty good.

From: Zos Xavius

I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the
other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly
tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an
older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my
disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights
since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just
have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and
lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I
would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for
this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be
developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the
k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak
porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I
know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably
start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited
since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some
film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras
I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind
of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm
looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to
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Re: CibaChrome is dead.

2013-02-11 Thread John Sessoms
Never did them myself, but my friendly local full-service ProLab offered 
them up until Ilford made their announcement.


I just hope the supply of RA-4 papers will hold out.

From: Paul Stenquist


I enjoyed making some Cibachrome prints 35 years ago. Still have one,
and it still looks good.

Paul via phone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In
combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could
produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime
last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome),
due to falling demand. A moment of silence please...


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Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?

2013-02-11 Thread John Sessoms
When I went to China in 2010, I took all of the film I was carrying out 
of the plastic canisters  put the bare cartridges into a zip-lock bag. 
I put the empty canisters into another zip-lock  stored it in my 
checked bag.


I kept the bag of film cartridges in my coat pocket while going through 
customs  security, pulling it out when necessary to request hand 
inspection.


Once I got boots-on-the-ground in China, I dug the empty canisters out 
of the other zip-lock bag I'd put in my checked bags and put the 
cartridges back in.


Repeated the process for the return flight. No problems  none of the 
security people were in the least bit put out by my request.


If you like shooting film, indulge yourself.

From: Mark C

Assuming you are flying to Cyprus - you might want to check the
airline's website and see if they have any advisories about film. The
Xray machines can fog it, especially exposed rolls. But it has been
years since I flew and took film, so maybe the xray machines are not
so powerful these days. IIRC, the xrays machines used on checked
luggage are worse than those used for your carry on bags. Of course,
if you are not flying then it would not be an issue.

Personally, I'd take a light DSLR kit and a good digital PS. That would
afford some back up (2 bodies) plus there are many situations where I
prefer a small camera vs a full DSLR.

But - if you think you will really want to shoot film then you should
bring film ;-)

Mark

On 2/11/2013 12:16 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another.  Sorry
for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been
discussing.

In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be
her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only
time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I
can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own.

I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to
copy the CF cards onto ...

Here's the question:  given that I've shot very little film recently
(only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_
have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing,
do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow?

My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital
for some unforseen  reason.  My brain says don't over-pack, and digital
means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds
of film.  And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one
DSLR.

(If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip
the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a.  Even as
early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean,
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PESO - John

2013-02-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
An informal portrait of my friend John. I usually try to focus on the eye 
closest to the camera but since that one was darkened by shadow I went for the 
other one. Hope it works for you:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/01/john.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers, 
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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Beware of the new reissue 285HV's though: Vivitar in name only, apparently.
http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2007/02/return-of-classic.html

Check out the Yongnuo flashes instead. A YN-460 is $78 at Amazon.
The YN-560 II is $130 and is equiv to a Pentax AF-540 (a photon bomb)
or Nikon SB800 for power.
All manual-only, like the 285HV.


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from BH and the trigger
 voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the
 expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe.

 It's pretty easy to figure out.

 From: Ann Sanfedele

 On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote:

 Thank you, Ann. :)

 One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a
 hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it.


 I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing
 stuff for ebay.


 It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've
 always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest
 in shooting when flash is required.

 -- Walt

 I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet

 have a camera with higher ISO :-)

 ann



 On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 The flash shot looks fine...

 steady on, Walt :-)
 ann


 On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote:

 So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked
 her
 about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
 some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
 the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

 I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
 Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the
 results:

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
 K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
 remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

 I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

 -- Walt



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RE: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's an excellent photo. She has a young Julia Roberts look about her.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com
Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her 
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in 
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing 
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. 
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out 
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt

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Re: PESO - John

2013-02-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Works for me, Frank. Good one.

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 An informal portrait of my friend John. I usually try to focus on the eye 
 closest to the camera but since that one was darkened by shadow I went for 
 the other one. Hope it works for you:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/01/john.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread P. J. Alling

I think she's much prettier than Julia Roberts even when she was young.

On 2/11/2013 9:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

That's an excellent photo. She has a young Julia Roberts look about her.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com
Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her
about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in
some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing
the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic.

I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight.
Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/
K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200

I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out
remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think.

I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5).

-- Walt




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Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

2013-02-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks Don, and everyone else who commented.

It wasn't really that cold but Jason hates cold so wears the neoprene mask. 
Looks very Ninja.  :-)

Christine, a lot of messengers wear shorts over their winter tights. An extra 
layer of warmth but more than that they are cheaper to replace than tights. 

Going down on a snowy day won't rip anything but on bare dry pavement spandex 
doesn't stand a chance. The shorts are for protection. Also for some reason 
most messengers don't like spandex so will cover it up when possible.

Ken, those fat tire bikes are cool! They would be great in snow, that's for 
sure. 

Thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)

Love the kung fu snow fighter look. Back on your game Frank. Good one.

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 I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was 
 working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there 
 were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed 
 early so the messengers spent a lot of standing by.

 This is the only environmental portrait I got. Jason's attire reminded me 
 of armour, hence the title:

   http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank


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RE: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter

2013-02-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Nice shots. Sixteen inches, eh? That's about six more.than us. Nice snowfall.

What's with the jogger? Not good for the knees to be uncovered like that.  ;-)

Cheers,
frank

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From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net
Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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Subject: GESO: Blizzard at my house  a question re: cameras in winter

Hi all,

The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action
around here.  I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel,
thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than
I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did
consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes...

Anyway, a few shots here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/

Now for my question...
I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold
with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc  then let it come to room
temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc.  All
in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the
camera  messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder:
1) How many of you do this?
2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary?
Especially when combined with a WR lens...?

Thanks for your thoughts...
:)
-c

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RE: GESO - Snow Crystals

2013-02-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Just beautiful!

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13
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Subject: GESO - Snow Crystals

Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend:

http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals

The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's 
there for the looking.

Cheers -

Mark

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RE: PAW162 - Oslo Court House

2013-02-11 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool!

cheers,
frank

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From: DagT li...@thrane.name
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Subject: PAW162 - Oslo Court House

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Fujifilm x100, 1/10s, f/2.0, ISO800

DagT
http://www.thrane.name/


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Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited

2013-02-11 Thread John Sessoms
That's a shame. I purchased all three of my 285HVs second hand and 
they're all the old made-by-Vivitar version. I still keep a look-out for 
older 285HVs whenever I wander into camera shops.


From: Bruce Walker

Beware of the new reissue 285HV's though: Vivitar in name only, apparently.
http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2007/02/return-of-classic.html

Check out the Yongnuo flashes instead. A YN-460 is $78 at Amazon.
The YN-560 II is $130 and is equiv to a Pentax AF-540 (a photon bomb)
or Nikon SB800 for power.
All manual-only, like the 285HV.


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from BH and the trigger
voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the
expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe.

It's pretty easy to figure out.



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Re: PESO Moon Shots (was Re: PESO Hawk in Flight)

2013-02-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote:
 On 2/10/2013 5:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

http://rule6.info/photos/critique/moon/

I'm curious which shot(s) people like best -- and why.  This was a quick
experiment in long exposures (I noticed the moon peeking through the
trees and ran in to get my A710 and tripod).  The shots are nothing to
write home about, but might be suitable for postcards.

 All of your moon shots have the moon over exposed. The brightness
 range is really too great to get anything except the moon properly
 exposed or get the rest of the shot with some kind of correct
 exposure and let the moon's exposure fall where it may. Those are
 your choices unless you're looking to do some kind of composite
 image or some extreme form of HDR.

Yup, the moon is way overexposed.  So the question is whether any of the
shots work at the aesthetic level despite that.  To me, 422 looks
something like the effect you get when you've been walking in a dark
forest and suddenly you see the full moon -- it looks eye-searingly
bright.

OTOH, if I have to explain it, by definition it doesn't work.  :-/


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:

 In reality, there are some photo that simply don't work, and I'm
 afraid this is one, or possibly ten, of them.  Also, in cases like
 this, the important info is the exposure data.

My gallery script definitely needs to get updated to output the EXIF
data.

I happen to like the effect of blown highlights, sometimes.  Here's
another example with multiple exposures, and I picked the +2EV one for
the floating effect and shadow removal.  Make sure you look at the 100%
image, there's marbling in the blown highlights that doesn't show at
smaller sizes (if I were printing this I'd probably go for 9x12 or
12x18):

http://rule6.info/photos/critique/legion/
http://rule6.info/photos/sf_2012_04/
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