GESO Motorcycle Track day
It was a nice day for a ride so I took my new Bonneville out to the local track, parked it safely. Unpacked the K5 and Sigma 120-400 zoom and took my first motorcycle track shots in a long time. http://aviewfinderdarkly.com.au/2013/02/11/motorcycle-track-day-baskervile/ -- Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 She can flash me any time she wants. I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a strobe. I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). Just a shot in the dark? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
I've never done that, and haven't had a problem with corrosion. I find the worst case for condensation is going from an air conditioned house to outdoors on a hot humid summer day. Coming indoors in the winter results in only mild condensation, if any, since indoor air is dry. I'm sure having a sealed camera is a bonus. But, as I said, I've never taken those precautions in 40 years of shooting with dozens of cameras. No problems that I noticed ever resulted from my lack of care. Love your neighborhood. Nice pics. Paul On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
Determine a nice exposure with your K-5 and duplicate that with the slide film. Exposing for highlights is fine if you apply some zone thinking, but you definitely don't want to aim a center weighted meter at the sky to determine exposure. You'll be critically underexposed. If you must use the center weighted meter, find a neutral area of the scene, such as green grass or a grey wall to fill the frame when determining your exposure, then bracket in half stops. Unlike some other slide films, Velvia is awful when underexposed by even half a stop. Paul On Feb 11, 2013, at 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
I wouldn't take film, particularly if you haven't been shooting it regularly. Take your *istD and a backup digital point and shoot if you can -- or a good phone camera. My iPhone 5 is as good as the point and shoots of just a few years ago. Paul On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:16 AM, dgl...@panix.com (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.) wrote: Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another. Sorry for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been discussing. In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own. I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to copy the CF cards onto ... Here's the question: given that I've shot very little film recently (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_ have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing, do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow? My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital for some unforseen reason. My brain says don't over-pack, and digital means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds of film. And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one DSLR. (If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a. Even as early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean, right?) -- Glenn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Like Paul, I've only had a problem going from a heavily AC'd hotel room to very hot and humid outside (Aruba, any time of the year). It doesn't really matter if the camera is sealed or not, because the internals aren't filled with inert, dry gasses, they are filled with ambient air that is locked into the camera when the lens is on. I've had to wait at least half an hour before the heaviest condensation has cleared, and wiping it off does nothing. I don't do extensive outdoor shooting when it's really cold out, but I just leave the camera in my camera bag for a while to allow it to acclimate. If I want the pictures right away, I take out the card and leave the camera in the bag. Never had a problem doing it this way. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Very nice, Walt. Reminds me of the following conversation... He - after noticing how tight her clothing is...How does one get into a pair of jeans like that? She - We'll, you can start by buying me a drink. -p Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Snow Crystals
Thanks, Larry! Good camera - yeah! - K-01! On 2/10/2013 8:23 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Mark C wrote: Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend: http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/ If I didn't know better, I'd think you knew what you were doing. You must have a really good camera! Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there for the looking. Awesome job. You can make even cold weather seem appealing. How big are they? Inches across or millimeters? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Snow Crystals
Thanks, Paul, and to everyone else who took a look. I'm glad that this winter was not a total bust, like last year. Mark On 2/10/2013 7:17 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Superb, as always. In fact, better than always. A wow. Paul On Feb 10, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend: http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/ Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there for the looking. Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
I thionk this works well Dave On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Snow Crystals
Super Dave On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend: http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/ Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there for the looking. Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
If its really cold, i will wrap the unit in a towel and bring it inside, slowly opening the towel over several hours. If it like this past weekend, -10C or so, i just bring it in and keep it by one of my drafty windows Dave On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - Robot II First Roll - GDG
looks good Dave On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: I took my walk on Saturday with my latest in camera acquisitions in my hands: a vintage 1941 Robot II. One of the challenges of using this camera was figuring out how to scan the 24x24mm format negatives efficiently. Took a bit of trial and error, but I got VueScan to drive the Nikon Coolscan V film scanner just right, to the point where I can scan a seven frame strip in less than ten minutes. I'm pleased with how this first roll has come out. This is the unedited scan index sheet: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8464414230/lightbox The camera is a delight to use. Wind it up and you can shoot up to a dozen or more exposures as fast as you can press the shutter release. Great for capturing those fast moving facial expressions and moving subjects. I'm going to have a lot of fun with it. enjoy! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)
Nice, this reminds me why i only bike from May to Oct. Dave On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed early so the messengers spent a lot of standing by. This is the only environmental portrait I got. Jason's attire reminded me of armour, hence the title: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Pretty Girls
and fashionable Dave On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On the street in Birmingham this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW--Week 6 2013
great Dave On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Happy Valentines day, Everyone! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
Most slide films seem to give a slightly better rendition if you underexpose about a third to a half stop, but not all and I never used Velvia that much, I didn't like the over-saturated colors, so I can't say for sure if it will benefit, much from underexposure. When I have been shooting film lately it's been with a meterless medium format camera, (Kodak Medalist II) 8 frames per roll at an average of $4,50 per roll before processing so I don't want to waste many frames. I've been using the K20D as a light-meter and Polaroid test shot combined. The K20D may be better than the K-5 for this as it's more likely to blow the highlights than the K-5 but the K-5 does have a better metering system. This may not be directly applicable to you since I've been shooting 6x9 frames of BW, but if the histogram on the K20D looks good the negative pretty much looks good. On 2/11/2013 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Proud Parents
So much more disposable than real children... On 2/10/2013 3:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898335 -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some slide film advice?
somebody ought to invent a new light meter that has an LCD screen to check exposure and give a histogram based on the scene...That way you wouldnt need to lug around a whole dslr to do the job. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Some slide film advice? Most slide films seem to give a slightly better rendition if you underexpose about a third to a half stop, but not all and I never used Velvia that much, I didn't like the over-saturated colors, so I can't say for sure if it will benefit, much from underexposure. When I have been shooting film lately it's been with a meterless medium format camera, (Kodak Medalist II) 8 frames per roll at an average of $4,50 per roll before processing so I don't want to waste many frames. I've been using the K20D as a light-meter and Polaroid test shot combined. The K20D may be better than the K-5 for this as it's more likely to blow the highlights than the K-5 but the K-5 does have a better metering system. This may not be directly applicable to you since I've been shooting 6x9 frames of BW, but if the histogram on the K20D looks good the negative pretty much looks good. On 2/11/2013 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- Buy a Leica to get the full Leica Experience, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Christine, I used to see the condensation problem with the PZ-1 and mechanical cameras. After getting the mirror, back of the lens, and prism wet, I was more careful. (bag it) The only real problem I had was with a new PZ-1 at a pig roast. The electronics died after shooting 30 minutes in the hot steam/smoke. Love your neighborhood pictures. 15 inches is not too much snow. And that must be the crazy running son! :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Thanks Paul, David David... I am comforted to know that you haven't had any issues, especially since I only sporadically follow that recommendation. I usually do something like Davids described, leaving it in the camera bag for a while to acclimate... conditions inside my house are usually like outside, anyway -- cold dry in winter, warm muggy in summer. :) -c On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've never done that, and haven't had a problem with corrosion. I find the worst case for condensation is going from an air conditioned house to outdoors on a hot humid summer day. Coming indoors in the winter results in only mild condensation, if any, since indoor air is dry. I'm sure having a sealed camera is a bonus. But, as I said, I've never taken those precautions in 40 years of shooting with dozens of cameras. No problems that I noticed ever resulted from my lack of care. Love your neighborhood. Nice pics. Paul On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Thanks, Bob. I'll take extra care at pig roasts! Yes, that's Nick. He had been running on the treadmill indoors, and had just quit was strutting around the kitchen shirtless, foraging for food, as is his usual m.o. I dared him to run outside like that, and he took off... He ran up down the block, eliciting hoots honks from passing cars. Ah, to be 17... :) And you're right about the snow total... but I wonder if my measuring technique was flawed... I looked for open spaces, not drifts. Maybe in those areas the lighter top layer of snow had blown into the drifts? Hard to say, many of the reported local totals were more like 22 inches, so who knows? The roads have been a mess, and no school again today. :) -c On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, I used to see the condensation problem with the PZ-1 and mechanical cameras. After getting the mirror, back of the lens, and prism wet, I was more careful. (bag it) The only real problem I had was with a new PZ-1 at a pig roast. The electronics died after shooting 30 minutes in the hot steam/smoke. Love your neighborhood pictures. 15 inches is not too much snow. And that must be the crazy running son! :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow
Ooh! Great on every level and criteria. On 2/9/2013 3:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On the hill at Booth Park this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16891132size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 82, Issue 68
Interesting crop and odd subject, obviously. I like the coloring in one way but it makes the tone lighter and less eerie. Oh well made me think. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:19:04 -0600 From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW--Week 6 2013 Message-ID:de1b1939-246a-4e59-9556-14bbed553...@caguila.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Happy Valentines day, Everyone! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some slide film advice?
Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does digital. If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the film, set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable for determining exposure. That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along a hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film how they'd been stored, they both came out pretty good. From: Zos Xavius I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)
I like sunrise photos; I've never seen an actual sunrise. Glad you were out and about to capture this one. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:12:00 + (UTC) From:knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To:PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the Beatles) Message-ID: 509152332.57647.1360509131076.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1 Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do, too. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)
Love the kung fu snow fighter look. Back on your game Frank. Good one. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:39:46 + (UTC) From:knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To:PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content) Message-ID: 1467601951.57715.1360510795498.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed early so the messengers spent a lot of standing by. This is the only environmental portrait I got. Jason's attire reminded me of armour, hence the title: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)
Don, 'never seen an actual sunrise' - good grief man! Buy an alarm clock and see one. The hour before and after sunrise are great times for shooting with that K-5. The newspaper or the weather on the internet can give you the sunrise time. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I like sunrise photos; I've never seen an actual sunrise. Glad you were out and about to capture this one. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:12:00 + (UTC) From:knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To:PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the Beatles) Message-ID: 509152332.57647.1360509131076.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Winter sunrise, taken a few weeks ago: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/blue-sunrise.html?m=1 Not the most spectacular colours but I rather like it. Hope you do, too. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Proud Parents
As a dog lover the the closeup of the dogs maybe me smile and you made good use of the k-5. This photo of the dogs in a stroller made wish for the dignity of a cat. But the photographer in me says kudos for both pictures. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:40:53 -0500 From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Proud Parents Message-ID:d731993a-9344-42dc-abd7-1edad71c9...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898335 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso On such a winters day
Thanks for looking Bob. Alas the sky was about to start dropping snow flakes (too tiny for Mark C.) so grey was the color of the day. Anytime LeeAnne wants to come stand in an cornfield my K-5 is ever ready to do its duty. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:49:18 -0600 From: Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso On such a winters day Message-ID: caodncb2lwkzrevrpivnnq7esjsnt6e+iryh-doghj+yw0vr...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don, Nice picture. Not as nice as LeeAnne, but still quite good. I wish the sky had something going on in it, and that you had all the tree branches to the right. It may be dreary, but that's winter. The barn, the tree, and the flat, wide open fields are what a midwest winter is about. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a slow Friday. Here's a dreary winter scene from last weekend to darken your day. CC always taken in the spirit it is given. http://donspix.posterous.com/sometime-the-winter-in-the-midwest-without-sn#!/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: ImpressionFX
Anyone using the fileters from the ImpressionFX Paint Engine? Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - For Christine A
Sent you an off list message a couple days ago. Did it end get to you? -p -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - For Christine A
Yep, just looked for it and will respond off list. Thanks, Paul for the heads up. Didn't see it earlier. Big cheers, Christibe On Feb 11, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Sent you an off list message a couple days ago. Did it end get to you? -p -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: ImpressionFX
Jens, I wrote off list about the nec pinwriter - I do have a power cord for it nad it does power up - if you want it, fine but if not please let me know so I can put it back in the closet - it's awfully heavy LEt me know at least if you actually got the off list mail and it didn't end up in your spam folder :-) ann On 2/11/2013 13:38, Jens wrote: Anyone using the fileters from the ImpressionFX Paint Engine? Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Nice little gallery! beauty, and humor. In answer to your question - yup - when it drops below ,um, 45 degrees f at least I always bring a baggie, ziplock or other wise and rubberbands to immediately enclose the camera before going inside - anywhere. Whether or not (no pun) I even shot anything or plan to remove the card. Got in that habit with film cameras and anything that would be affected by condensation I'd say should be treated that way. I had my friend from Ipswich visiting here since last Wed. He was supposed to leave Sunday morning but happily the Megabus was cancelled so I had him for another day :-). Part of his visit was work related but that didn't take a lot of his time. Minor downside was I didn't get to Tompkins square park in the best light for snaps.. and here , right in Manhattan, we basically dodged a bullet on this storm - snow practically gone already from my neighborhood. ann On 2/10/2013 23:09, Christine Nielsen wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO and praise for the K-01
Checked in on all of them - still amazed at the process - fascinated by the crystal structure - like the more subtle backgrounds the best. very pretty! ann On 2/2/2013 18:47, Mark C wrote: It snowed a bit this morning and I had chance to test out the K-01 for snow crystals. This camera well exceeded my expectations! Between focus peaking and the ability to zoom in on the screen, focusing was very fast and easy. I was able to get clear shots, move on, get more. Focus peaking is a HUGE advantage for this kind of work because it allows you to see what is in focus and fine tune the focus to maximize DOF. It made the morning very productive - in about 2 hours of shooting I got at least 10 good images. Image quality from the K-01 seems to be right there with the K-5. I put 4 shots from this morning on my blog, will be posted a couple more batches this week as well: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/ Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/2013-snow-crystals-round-2 All images were shot with the K-01, a Sigma 50mm f2.8 EX macro, and extension. The snow was very variable in size today, so I used all the extension that I have (about 230mm) for a few shots, and only about 50mm for a few other. Plus everything in between. I should comment that the second crystal in that post was very small and was shot with 230mm of extension - tubes and bellows. That is where the focusing peaking really shined. WIth all that extension a finder is so dark you can barely see, and with live view and no focus peaking it is very difficult to see what is in focus. The K-01 made it simple and easy to focus on that little bugger. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Thanks, Ann! Glad to hear you made it through the storm ok, and that you've been pleasantly occupied with your friend. He picked the right weekend to get out of town! :) -c On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Nice little gallery! beauty, and humor. In answer to your question - yup - when it drops below ,um, 45 degrees f at least I always bring a baggie, ziplock or other wise and rubberbands to immediately enclose the camera before going inside - anywhere. Whether or not (no pun) I even shot anything or plan to remove the card. Got in that habit with film cameras and anything that would be affected by condensation I'd say should be treated that way. I had my friend from Ipswich visiting here since last Wed. He was supposed to leave Sunday morning but happily the Megabus was cancelled so I had him for another day :-). Part of his visit was work related but that didn't take a lot of his time. Minor downside was I didn't get to Tompkins square park in the best light for snaps.. and here , right in Manhattan, we basically dodged a bullet on this storm - snow practically gone already from my neighborhood. ann On 2/10/2013 23:09, Christine Nielsen wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Instagram photos of North East Storm
I replied to Christine N's post of photos - basically here not a problem at all (you'll see why if you read the other email I sent :-) ann On 2/9/2013 10:17, Christine Aguila wrote: The NYT posted this on the storm. Any word for our PDMLers on the east coast? Cheers, Christine http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/02/08/us/the-storm-on-instagram.html?ref=nyregion -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - Robot II First Roll - GDG
It is a cute camera! Seeing your contact sheet made me nostalgic. My first darkroom in decades is about to see first dark. Just need to finish the PVC pipe base for my darkroom sink that can be broken down for storage. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
She can flash me any time she wants. I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a strobe. I haven't had a chance to talk to her much just yet, as she's been coming in during the busiest parts of my nights lately. But, from what I can tell, she's a lot of fun. And I'm pretty sure that vertical smile could light up a room, too! I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). Just a shot in the dark? Heh. If I get a shot with her in the dark, I'll likely be putting the camera down. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Thanks, Paul! I may ask her that the next time I see her -- likely tonight. And I'll buy her a drink or five. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 6:43 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Very nice, Walt. Reminds me of the following conversation... He - after noticing how tight her clothing is...How does one get into a pair of jeans like that? She - We'll, you can start by buying me a drink. -p Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2013, at 2:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Thanks, Dave. I'm always skeptical about using flash, as I've gotten so used to shooting in available light and just don't know enough about flash photography to feel comfortable trying it. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 8:47 AM, David J Brooks wrote: I thionk this works well Dave On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Snow Crystals
Nice work as usual Mark. Those two of those three seem very different from others you've posted. Nice to see you've helped youself with the new body. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Subject: GESO - Snow Crystals Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend: http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/ Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there for the looking. Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
She can flash me any time she wants. I think that smile could light up the room, even without the assistance of a strobe. I haven't had a chance to talk to her much just yet, as she's been coming in during the busiest parts of my nights lately. But, from what I can tell, she's a lot of fun. And I'm pretty sure that vertical smile could light up a room, too! I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). Just a shot in the dark? Heh. If I get a shot with her in the dark, I'll likely be putting the camera down. -- Larry colen...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Should I take film to Cyprus?
It depends on how long you're going for, and how important it is to you. When I went to Fez in Morocco a few years ago I took my Olympus E-3, but forgot my battery charger. It proved very difficult to find a new one - I searched for several days before I found a Chinese knock-off version. One the other hand, there was plenty of film around. Having also seen someone in tears in Ethiopia once because she couldn't charge her (film) camera and therefore wouldn't get any pictures of an expensive, once-in-a-lifetime trip, I figure that you should try and cover all the bases as best you reasonably can. So if you can take a manual film body which can use the same lenses as your digital camera, which is necessarily electronic, then you should be good against most eventualities. And since you already have some film it would probably be a good idea to take it. If you don't use it, no harm is done. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of D. Glenn Arthur Jr. [...] In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own. I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to copy the CF cards onto ... Here's the question: given that I've shot very little film recently (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_ have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing, do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow? My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital for some unforseen reason. My brain says don't over-pack, and digital means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds of film. And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one DSLR. [...] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and, the, Beatles)
Oh Bob I have always made it a policy to get home before dawn no matter how much fun I might be having. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:09:39 -0600 From: Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles) Message-ID: caodncb3o7bnjn6qv08jk270wf3wvo14aal_ocohesqrxkg8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don, 'never seen an actual sunrise' - good grief man! Buy an alarm clock and see one. The hour before and after sunrise are great times for shooting with that K-5. The newspaper or the weather on the internet can give you the sunrise time. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: I like sunrise photos; I've never seen an actual sunrise. Glad you were out and about to capture this one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard aftermath
There are several lower trunks that are bent sideways that I may need to tie together to get them back vertical. It's a hardy thing though, when we bought the house (7.5 years ago), it was as tall as the fence behind it, now it's 10-12 feet taller. We slept a lot, when we weren't listening to WBZ on 10 minute loops. I kept walking into rooms and flipping the light switches out of pure reflex. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Dave, your arborvitae looks pretty good... mine is bent in half, and buried in a snowdrift. I hope this is the storm that finally kills it. ;) Glad you are back on the grid. Going pioneer-style loses its charm pretty quick when the house gets that cold. :) -c On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: We got at least 24 inches (hard to tell for sure with drifting) in Quincy (just south of Boston). Lost power for 20 hours and cable/phone/internet for 22 hours. Power came back about 20 minutes after I finished digging the car out. If it hadn't come back, we were going to find some place warm to go. The temp inside the house was 48 when we got power back. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8459347833/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460452468/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460454326/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460455680/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8460458108/ -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Some slide film advice?
Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose ever so slightly. This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 67. 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film. John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does digital. If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the film, set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable for determining exposure. That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along a hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film how they'd been stored, they both came out pretty good. From: Zos Xavius I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: 'Red Bumper
Captured harborside in Petersburg, Alaska, a boat bumper on a commercial fisher. - K20D, 28-80mm SMC F, 1/2000 @ f8, 400 ISO. Thanks in advance for comments/critiques. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16887092 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing stuff for ebay. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet have a camera with higher ISO :-) ann On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday: Pentax-F 100mm f2.8 macro and a LN Pentax Auto Bellows Set
Posted in flagrant violation of the PDML charter (do we *have* a charter?) Just trying to make your Monday feel like a Friday. Actually, I need to raise funds quick for a Very Special Purchase. PDML price on the F100 macro: $475 (plus actual shipping). Will be happy to ship anywhere. This is the model that has the Focus Range Limiter and the pixie dust at no additional charge. The Auto Bellow set is M42 and appears to have literally been used once. It comes with all original boxes, the instruction manual, the double release, and the two distance scales (still in their original plastic pouches). PDML price $69 plus actual shipping. Pics upon request. -Darren -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
You don't want to underexposed Velvia. The result will be garish with lost detail. Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose ever so slightly. This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 67. 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film. John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does digital. If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the film, set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable for determining exposure. That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along a hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film how they'd been stored, they both came out pretty good. From: Zos Xavius I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You don't want to underexposed Velvia. The result will be garish with lost detail. As opposed to the desired Velvia result: garish with fine detail. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)
Most of my sunrise pictures are actually sunsets that I have flipped horizontally in Photoshop. As long as there are no compasses in the photograph, nobody's the wiser alarm clocks are not required. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
I had some success shooting cars on Velvia 6 x 7, with dead on or slightly over exposures. But I always shot some Provia or ektachrome as backup. Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:22 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You don't want to underexposed Velvia. The result will be garish with lost detail. As opposed to the desired Velvia result: garish with fine detail. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison and the, Beatles)
No URL? Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Most of my sunrise pictures are actually sunsets that I have flipped horizontally in Photoshop. As long as there are no compasses in the photograph, nobody's the wiser alarm clocks are not required. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
CibaChrome is dead.
It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
On a trip like that, I'd carry one camera that I was thoroughly comfortable and familiar with, and a small, light camera just in case and for when the regular camera is too much to carry along. If you've got a freezer full of film that you haven't processed yet for lack of funds or time or energy, what's the point of shooting film that will just add to what you put in the freezer? Doesn't make any sense. G On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:16 PM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. dgl...@panix.com wrote: Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another. Sorry for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been discussing. In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own. I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to copy the CF cards onto ... Here's the question: given that I've shot very little film recently (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_ have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing, do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow? My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital for some unforseen reason. My brain says don't over-pack, and digital means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds of film. And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one DSLR. (If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a. Even as early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean, right?) -- Glenn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: CibaChrome is dead.
I blame the Pope. B From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
Modern LCD-based lightmeters already do this. The LCD displays the histogram of the single pixel behind the white dome, not as a bar graph but in convenient f-stops or EV. ;-) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote: somebody ought to invent a new light meter that has an LCD screen to check exposure and give a histogram based on the scene...That way you wouldnt need to lug around a whole dslr to do the job. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Some slide film advice? Most slide films seem to give a slightly better rendition if you underexpose about a third to a half stop, but not all and I never used Velvia that much, I didn't like the over-saturated colors, so I can't say for sure if it will benefit, much from underexposure. When I have been shooting film lately it's been with a meterless medium format camera, (Kodak Medalist II) 8 frames per roll at an average of $4,50 per roll before processing so I don't want to waste many frames. I've been using the K20D as a light-meter and Polaroid test shot combined. The K20D may be better than the K-5 for this as it's more likely to blow the highlights than the K-5 but the K-5 does have a better metering system. This may not be directly applicable to you since I've been shooting 6x9 frames of BW, but if the histogram on the K20D looks good the negative pretty much looks good. On 2/11/2013 1:05 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- Buy a Leica to get the full Leica Experience, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
I enjoyed making some Cibachrome prints 35 years ago. Still have one, and it still looks good. Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Walt, points to consider: Like shooting from a tripod, adding in some artificial light can force you to slow down and consider your shots -- not actually a bad thing. Flash is not the only way to get extra light onto human subjects. There are: light bounced from reflectors, incandescent or halogen bulbs, LED panels, fluorescents, etc. If flash is intimidating because of its transient nature, then continuous light is very easy to work with and very familiar to you. They can be used with modifiers too. Eg: I put LED panels into softboxes and umbrellas. A 160-LED panel and a lightstand will cost you $50 these days at eBay or Amazon. A little bit of extra light added to a scene can lift your image from it's okay to oh wow. If your scene is lit by uniform flat light, you can get a perfectly okay shot. But your eyes are drawn to lighter areas or more contrasty areas, so if you take that flat shot and light your subject's face by a half stop or more, you'll see how much better it can become. Light becomes a part of the composition that you get to control. In the past I considered flash to be either unnecessary, too complex, too expensive, or just annoying -- until I actually tried it, first with one hotshoe flash then two and three. The very first time I tried working in a studio, despite stumbling around like a complete noob, I absolutely loved it. I took to it right away and saw how it opened up a world of new possibilities. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Pretty Girls
Cute shot, Paul. On 2/10/2013 3:34 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On the street in Birmingham this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16898293size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'Red Bumper
Like! It helps that it reminds me of warmer weather too. :-) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:41 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Captured harborside in Petersburg, Alaska, a boat bumper on a commercial fisher. - K20D, 28-80mm SMC F, 1/2000 @ f8, 400 ISO. Thanks in advance for comments/critiques. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16887092 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Good News?
Gee, that would be nice. I wonder if Milford Camera will try to get Pentax in again. Won't help that much really unless they are able to get into the big box and electronics stores with their entry level stuff as well. On 2/1/2013 2:35 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I stopped by one of the two local independents here in Raleigh today and the owner says he's in negotiations with Pentax to start carrying Pentax again if he can get a price point where he can actually make a profit on them. This is the store that was a Pentax dealer when I got my *ist-D, but who were unable to get Pentax to fill the order when I wanted the K-10D. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
Assuming you are flying to Cyprus - you might want to check the airline's website and see if they have any advisories about film. The Xray machines can fog it, especially exposed rolls. But it has been years since I flew and took film, so maybe the xray machines are not so powerful these days. IIRC, the xrays machines used on checked luggage are worse than those used for your carry on bags. Of course, if you are not flying then it would not be an issue. Personally, I'd take a light DSLR kit and a good digital PS. That would afford some back up (2 bodies) plus there are many situations where I prefer a small camera vs a full DSLR. But - if you think you will really want to shoot film then you should bring film ;-) Mark On 2/11/2013 12:16 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another. Sorry for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been discussing. In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own. I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to copy the CF cards onto ... Here's the question: given that I've shot very little film recently (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_ have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing, do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow? My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital for some unforseen reason. My brain says don't over-pack, and digital means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds of film. And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one DSLR. (If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a. Even as early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean, right?) -- Glenn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW--Week 6 2013
Unique, Christine. I like that a lot. (I almost missed this. The almost unvarying subject pattern makes me think I've already read it.) On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Happy Valentines day, Everyone! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5511_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
Back in the day people used to routinely rate the old ISO 50 Velvia at ISO 40. I have never shot the ISO 100 Velvia so I can't offer much advice regarding it. Personally, I used to use center weighted averaging on a PZ-1p with slide film all the time, but the evaluative meting in that camera left much to be desired. If conditions allowed it I would spot meter and work out an exposure setting based on reading from the lightest and darkest area in the frame. Not the zone system since development never changed but rather just careful measurement and thinking through how the exposure will fit into the 5 to 7 stops of exposure latitude that slide film affords you. Regarding the 67 - personally, I like color negative film in medium format. As you move up in format the fine grade of slide film is less of an advantage and not worth the trade off in lack of exposure latitude. Just my personal opinion. Mark On 2/11/2013 4:36 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose ever so slightly. This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 67. 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film. John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does digital. If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the film, set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable for determining exposure. That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along a hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film how they'd been stored, they both came out pretty good. From: Zos Xavius I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Great gallery, Christine. Yes, I do the camera warmup thing, mainly by leaving it in the closed kit bag for an hour or so. Other non-sealed stuff I put in baggies while they warm up; flashes, etc. Been okay so far. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
In a word, no. Save your film use for controlled, close to home conditions - where you can *enjoy* it. Air travel, x-rays and ignorant security personnel will suck all the fun out of a travel film experience. Just bring a DSLY, a couple of lenses and an fistful of memory cards and take pleasure in the art of framing, focusing and getting the right exposure. Save the ever increasing vagarities of the film experience for times and places where you can return to have another go if something doesn't work. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -Speaking of Snow
Terrific and very attractive action shot, Paul. On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On the hill at Booth Park this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16891132size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
Mark Roberts wrote: In a word, no. Save your film use for controlled, close to home conditions - where you can *enjoy* it. Air travel, x-rays and ignorant security personnel will suck all the fun out of a travel film experience. Just bring a DSLY I think that should be DSLR, but if you can think of a creative interpretation of DSLY go for it. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sun (apologies to Geo. Harrison, and, the, Beatles)
From: Don Guthrie Oh Bob I have always made it a policy to get home before dawn no matter how much fun I might be having. Once I turned 40, I made it a firm, fast rule to always be in bed by 9:00pm ... or else go home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso stones in snow
Very good, Dave. Well exposed and I enjoy the look. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From the small cemetery in Bloomington just north of Stouffville http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16903754 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from BH and the trigger voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe. It's pretty easy to figure out. From: Ann Sanfedele On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing stuff for ebay. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet have a camera with higher ISO :-) ann On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. You don't need to invest a lot to get a strobe well worth learning with. I'd suggest a dumb manual strobe. You can find them used for under $50. You can pick up a cheap radio trigger pair for $20, or a hongkong strobe extension cable for about the same. ephotoinc has a strobe that screws into a lightbulb socket and will trigger with either a PC cable or optically for about $20. I think you'd be better off with a dumb speedlight with adjustable power, and ideally, optical trigger, though you can buy optical triggers for about $10. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. I was very much in that frame of mind. There was so much to learn that it was daunting. I eventually picked up the strobist dvd set (with some friends to share the cost) and he made a good point, that it was the difference between taking a photo and making a photo. I've lost track of the number of times that I've recommended light, science magic, probably a few of them to you. That'll help with either ambient or artificial light. It will also help you understand the difference between how a diffuser works and a fongdong (or a light grenade as I call them, because they throw photons everywhere). The problems with using a flash are that they can be really obnoxious/distracting and if you don't know what you're doing you are almost more likely to ruin a shot than get it right. Heretofore there are a whole bunch of shots that were just impossible to get without a flash. With a K-5 and occasionally being able to get shots with ISOs up to 25,600, that set has gotten orders of magnitude smaller than in the film era. I have found, however, that when I do manage to use a flash properly, often just as supplemental lighting, it can improve the photos I get tremendously. The most important thing that I've learned is to not put light any place that I don't want it to be. A simple snoot on a speedlight, that just puts the light on a musician on stage, and doesn't illuminate the crap in the background can really help. Particularly if you can balance the light on the musician with the light of the neon signs or suchlike. In other words, flash doesn't have to stupid expensive, and learning how to use it can make a huge difference in your photos. It'll also help you learn how to use available light better. -- l...@red4est.com via squirrelmail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some slide film advice?
But, those gigantic chromes are beautiful. On 2/11/2013 7:58 PM, Mark C wrote: Back in the day people used to routinely rate the old ISO 50 Velvia at ISO 40. I have never shot the ISO 100 Velvia so I can't offer much advice regarding it. Personally, I used to use center weighted averaging on a PZ-1p with slide film all the time, but the evaluative meting in that camera left much to be desired. If conditions allowed it I would spot meter and work out an exposure setting based on reading from the lightest and darkest area in the frame. Not the zone system since development never changed but rather just careful measurement and thinking through how the exposure will fit into the 5 to 7 stops of exposure latitude that slide film affords you. Regarding the 67 - personally, I like color negative film in medium format. As you move up in format the fine grade of slide film is less of an advantage and not worth the trade off in lack of exposure latitude. Just my personal opinion. Mark On 2/11/2013 4:36 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: Thanks for all the replies. Since my k-5 never leaves my side I will just use that for metering and match settings. I will try to remember to underexpose ever so slightly. This will be good practice for when I make the jump to a 67. 35mm isn't doing it for me, but it is fun to play with film. John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Digital seems to me to be very much like shooting with slide film in terms of exposure ... they're both more sensitive to blown highlights. Slide film does seem to have just a tiny bit more latitude than does digital. If you set the ISO on your K-5 to the same ISO as you're using for the film, set similar metering patterns, the histogram should be reliable for determining exposure. That's how I did it with the two rolls of Kodachrome I took to China, using a K20D to confirm exposures for a LX, although I also took along a hand held incident meter. Considering the age of the film how they'd been stored, they both came out pretty good. From: Zos Xavius I'm going to run a roll of velvia 100 that someone handed me the other day through my zx-7. I will probably do nothing but mostly tripod landscapes and what not. Since I will likely be using an older 50mm mostly, I will just have center weighted metering at my disposal. I know that for slide film you expose mostly for highlights since there is less latitude there. I guess I'm asking, should I just have enough faith in that meter and try to center more on the sky and lock and recompose? I could also use the k-5 to spot meter since I would likely have it with me. I just don't have enough of a feel for this zx-7 as I still have a decent amount of tri-x waiting to be developed. I think I am going to try duplicating a few shots with the k-5 so I can compare digital vs slide film. I also have some kodak porta vc pro 160. I'm guessing that can still be developed, though I know its out of production if I heard correctly. I will probably start with the porta first. My experience with film is very limited since I started purely in digital years ago. I see there are some film shooters here so I thought I would ask. With the digital cameras I can spot meter if it is critical. No option for that here. I kind of love the challenge of filma 67 would be a lot of fun so I'm looking at playing a bit more with 35mm before I make the jump to 120. -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CibaChrome is dead.
Never did them myself, but my friendly local full-service ProLab offered them up until Ilford made their announcement. I just hope the supply of RA-4 papers will hold out. From: Paul Stenquist I enjoyed making some Cibachrome prints 35 years ago. Still have one, and it still looks good. Paul via phone On Feb 11, 2013, at 5:51 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: It happened sometime last year, and I didn't even notice it. In combination with Kodachrome, if you did everything right, you could produce startlingly beautiful prints. Ilford announced sometime last year that they were discontinuing the product, (Ilfochrome), due to falling demand. A moment of silence please... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Should I take film to Cyprus?
When I went to China in 2010, I took all of the film I was carrying out of the plastic canisters put the bare cartridges into a zip-lock bag. I put the empty canisters into another zip-lock stored it in my checked bag. I kept the bag of film cartridges in my coat pocket while going through customs security, pulling it out when necessary to request hand inspection. Once I got boots-on-the-ground in China, I dug the empty canisters out of the other zip-lock bag I'd put in my checked bags and put the cartridges back in. Repeated the process for the return flight. No problems none of the security people were in the least bit put out by my request. If you like shooting film, indulge yourself. From: Mark C Assuming you are flying to Cyprus - you might want to check the airline's website and see if they have any advisories about film. The Xray machines can fog it, especially exposed rolls. But it has been years since I flew and took film, so maybe the xray machines are not so powerful these days. IIRC, the xrays machines used on checked luggage are worse than those used for your carry on bags. Of course, if you are not flying then it would not be an issue. Personally, I'd take a light DSLR kit and a good digital PS. That would afford some back up (2 bodies) plus there are many situations where I prefer a small camera vs a full DSLR. But - if you think you will really want to shoot film then you should bring film ;-) Mark On 2/11/2013 12:16 AM, D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Alas, I have fallen way, way behind this mailing list and another. Sorry for being absent and for having missed so much of what y'all have been discussing. In April, my mother is going back to Cyprus for what she thinks will be her last time, and taking me along for what will probably be my only time (I was there as a toddler; don't remember it; doesn't count) -- I can't see ever being able to afford to go on my own. I'm taking the *istD, extra batteries, extra CF cards, a computer to copy the CF cards onto ... Here's the question: given that I've shot very little film recently (only for a wedding I was paid to shoot a year or two ago) and I _still_ have lots of exposed film in my freezer waiting for funds for developing, do y'all think I should take a film body or two with me anyhow? My gut says yes, I might see something I want on ilm instead of digital for some unforseen reason. My brain says don't over-pack, and digital means not having to carry multiple bodies loaded with different kinds of film. And Murphy whispers backup camera since I only have the one DSLR. (If I have any unexposed infrared film left in the fridge, that'll tip the balance somewhat in favour of bringing the K2 or an H1a. Even as early as April, I should have plenty to shoot in IR in the Mediterranean, right?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - John
An informal portrait of my friend John. I usually try to focus on the eye closest to the camera but since that one was darkened by shadow I went for the other one. Hope it works for you: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/01/john.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
Beware of the new reissue 285HV's though: Vivitar in name only, apparently. http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2007/02/return-of-classic.html Check out the Yongnuo flashes instead. A YN-460 is $78 at Amazon. The YN-560 II is $130 and is equiv to a Pentax AF-540 (a photon bomb) or Nikon SB800 for power. All manual-only, like the 285HV. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from BH and the trigger voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe. It's pretty easy to figure out. From: Ann Sanfedele On 2/11/2013 15:58, Walt wrote: Thank you, Ann. :) One of these days, I'm going to invest in a decent flash. I just have a hard time justifying the expense considering how much I dislike using it. I got one mainly to use as bounce flash and really only for photoing stuff for ebay. It's something I'll eventually have to get over, I guess. But, I've always preferred shooting in available light and generally lose interest in shooting when flash is required. -- Walt I don't lose interest in the subject, I just get annoyed I don't yet have a camera with higher ISO :-) ann On 2/11/2013 1:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: The flash shot looks fine... steady on, Walt :-) ann On 2/11/2013 03:59, Walt wrote: So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
That's an excellent photo. She has a young Julia Roberts look about her. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - John
Works for me, Frank. Good one. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: An informal portrait of my friend John. I usually try to focus on the eye closest to the camera but since that one was darkened by shadow I went for the other one. Hope it works for you: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/01/john.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
I think she's much prettier than Julia Roberts even when she was young. On 2/11/2013 9:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's an excellent photo. She has a young Julia Roberts look about her. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited So, my latest favorite subject returned tonight for a visit. I asked her about whether or not she'd be interested in posing for me -- perhaps in some motorcycle (ahem, Larry!) shots. Let's just say, after discussing the last photo I took of her, she's amenable; I daresay enthusiastic. I couldn't let her get away without taking another shot tonight. Unfortunately, the light was crappy, so I used flash. Here are the results: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8463612961/ K-5, FA 50/1.4, 1/100 sec, ISO 3200 I didn't think to pull back the ISO before the shot, but it turned out remarkably well in spite of my oversight, I think. I think I'm really going to enjoy working with this girl (and the K-5). -- Walt -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content)
Thanks Don, and everyone else who commented. It wasn't really that cold but Jason hates cold so wears the neoprene mask. Looks very Ninja. :-) Christine, a lot of messengers wear shorts over their winter tights. An extra layer of warmth but more than that they are cheaper to replace than tights. Going down on a snowy day won't rip anything but on bare dry pavement spandex doesn't stand a chance. The shorts are for protection. Also for some reason most messengers don't like spandex so will cover it up when possible. Ken, those fat tire bikes are cool! They would be great in snow, that's for sure. Thanks to all who looked and commented. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com Sent: February 11, 2013 2/11/13 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content) Love the kung fu snow fighter look. Back on your game Frank. Good one. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:39:46 + (UTC) From:knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To:PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Prepared for Battle (messenger content) Message-ID: 1467601951.57715.1360510795498.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I didn't get nearly as many photos on Friday as I had hoped because (a) I was working and spent much of my time underground on the subway, and, (b) there were far fewer messengers on the road. Many clients were closed or closed early so the messengers spent a lot of standing by. This is the only environmental portrait I got. Jason's attire reminded me of armour, hence the title: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/02/jason.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter
Nice shots. Sixteen inches, eh? That's about six more.than us. Nice snowfall. What's with the jogger? Not good for the knees to be uncovered like that. ;-) Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO: Blizzard at my house a question re: cameras in winter Hi all, The past few days have provided a nice break in the usual action around here. I took the camera out yesterday, along with my shovel, thinking I'd get a few neighborhood scenes... Well, it was harder than I thought it would be, just getting out of my own yard... though I did consider strapping some tennis rackets to my boots as snowshoes... Anyway, a few shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157632736739251/with/8464137448/ Now for my question... I learned long ago that it's a good idea, after being out in the cold with your camera, to bag it up in a ziploc then let it come to room temp for a couple of hours before using/retrieving sd card, etc. All in the name of preventing condensation/moisture from getting into the camera messing with the electronics, etc.. Here's what I wonder: 1) How many of you do this? 2) For a weatherproof camera, like the k-5, is this less necessary? Especially when combined with a WR lens...? Thanks for your thoughts... :) -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Snow Crystals
Just beautiful! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Snow Crystals Again with the snow crystals. Just 3 from last weekend: http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/ Permalink: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/three-more-february-snow-crystals The post before this one has 12 new crystals - didn't GESO that but it's there for the looking. Cheers - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PAW162 - Oslo Court House
Cool! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: DagT li...@thrane.name Sent: February 10, 2013 2/10/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW162 - Oslo Court House http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Fujifilm x100, 1/10s, f/2.0, ISO800 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: LeeAnn, Revisited
That's a shame. I purchased all three of my 285HVs second hand and they're all the old made-by-Vivitar version. I still keep a look-out for older 285HVs whenever I wander into camera shops. From: Bruce Walker Beware of the new reissue 285HV's though: Vivitar in name only, apparently. http://strobist.blogspot.ca/2007/02/return-of-classic.html Check out the Yongnuo flashes instead. A YN-460 is $78 at Amazon. The YN-560 II is $130 and is equiv to a Pentax AF-540 (a photon bomb) or Nikon SB800 for power. All manual-only, like the 285HV. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 8:43 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Look for a Vivitar 285HV. New ones are about $90 from BH and the trigger voltage is low enough they're even safe to use on a (you should pardon the expression) Canon DSLR hotshoe. It's pretty easy to figure out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Moon Shots (was Re: PESO Hawk in Flight)
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: On 2/10/2013 5:43 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: http://rule6.info/photos/critique/moon/ I'm curious which shot(s) people like best -- and why. This was a quick experiment in long exposures (I noticed the moon peeking through the trees and ran in to get my A710 and tripod). The shots are nothing to write home about, but might be suitable for postcards. All of your moon shots have the moon over exposed. The brightness range is really too great to get anything except the moon properly exposed or get the rest of the shot with some kind of correct exposure and let the moon's exposure fall where it may. Those are your choices unless you're looking to do some kind of composite image or some extreme form of HDR. Yup, the moon is way overexposed. So the question is whether any of the shots work at the aesthetic level despite that. To me, 422 looks something like the effect you get when you've been walking in a dark forest and suddenly you see the full moon -- it looks eye-searingly bright. OTOH, if I have to explain it, by definition it doesn't work. :-/ On Sun, Feb 10, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: In reality, there are some photo that simply don't work, and I'm afraid this is one, or possibly ten, of them. Also, in cases like this, the important info is the exposure data. My gallery script definitely needs to get updated to output the EXIF data. I happen to like the effect of blown highlights, sometimes. Here's another example with multiple exposures, and I picked the +2EV one for the floating effect and shadow removal. Make sure you look at the 100% image, there's marbling in the blown highlights that doesn't show at smaller sizes (if I were printing this I'd probably go for 9x12 or 12x18): http://rule6.info/photos/critique/legion/ http://rule6.info/photos/sf_2012_04/ -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.