Re: OT - Photographers can clone their own work

2013-03-31 Thread Tom Cakalic
I agree with you Brian. Selling limited editions of a work, in this
case a print, implies one won't produce and sell 'similar' limited
editions. Allowing it on the technicality of how the print was
produced seems wrong, largely because the collector (at least if it
was me) isn't buying it for how it was produced, they're buying it for
the image and it's artistic value.

On the other hand the fact that the new work is much larger in
physical dimensions, puts it in a different light. There's clearly a
difference between a 17 inch print and a 5 foot print.

As I write this I find myself generally agreeing with the decision,
but not because of the means by which the artwork was produced. I
don't think the collector has a valid claim that a 5 ft print dilutes
the value of his print any more than a book containing the
photographer's work dilutes the value.of a print.

It would be interesting to know what the terms of the earlier sale
were, as that would have a bearing on whether the collector has a
valid claim.

Humorously, maybe he's upset because the buyer of the larger print got
more bang for his buck.

Tom

  The U.S. District Court in the Southern District of New York dismissed
  collector Jonathan Sobel?s lawsuit against photographer William
  Eggleston. The case, art law experts say, has broader implications for
  all artists who incorporate old photographic negatives into new work ?
  and the collectors who support them.
 
  http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/885054/judge-rules-william-eggleston-can-clone-his-own-work-rebuffing


 Yes - saw that mentioned on TOP.  It still seems wrong somehow.


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OT - skyline photos from the Russian sky-walker.

2013-03-31 Thread Igor Roshchin


While the photos from Egyptian pyramids made it to the big news,
there are other interesting photos from the roof-tops of other cities
done by the same guy:
http://raskalov-vit.livejournal.com/

Don't fear the text in Russian. Here is a hint for navigation:
Under each photo, there is a link centered on the page that
starts with (+ 20 ...) or whatever the number is.
Click it to unfold the photos from that post.

Enjoy,

Igor


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RE: PESO: Bellbird

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
that thing looks quite angry, and primeval.

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Mann
 Sent: 31 March 2013 06:36
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: PESO: Bellbird
 
 I was very lucky today.  A bellbird came to visit our garden.  I see
 one here maybe once or twice a year.  They tend to hang out closer to
 the hills, about 2km away.  They're quite skittish and I've had the AF
 motor of my camera scare one off before.  Today I kept my distance and
 managed to get a photo.
 
 http://www.multi.net.nz/bellbird/
 
 This is a fairly heavy crop.  It's also had some Shadow / Highlight
 treatment to bring out his plumage.  It's a touch noisy as I shot at
 800ISO due to poor light.
 
 K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6.
 
 Cheers,
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Ping

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
/ping

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Re: Q Macro Tests and Rolling Shutter Distortion

2013-03-31 Thread Toine
I added a few samples of the raynox on the Q both the 06 zoom and 01 prime:
http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/248-q-macro
Most of the images are with fill in flash from the Q flash. Scroll
down and click on the image for a larger version. It's not perfect,
once Pentax releases a macro for the Q I'll bite but for now it's
amazing what I can do with a pocket camera.

Toine

On 31 March 2013 00:08, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Your approach is certainly much more elegant than what I tried. The Raynox
 on the 06 telephoto zoom retains the compactness of the overall Q kit. Do
 you have any sample images taken through the Raynox? I had initially
 considered this approach but was concerned about the Q's AF and the 06 zoom
 - it was pretty slow without a closeup diopter and I worried it it would be
 too slow with one. I tested the Q and 0y with a reverse mounted 50mm and had
 major problems getting AF to work, but when it did the results were great.
 The v 1.11 firmware seems to address the AF issue with the original Q and
 the 06 telephoto - it is quite fast even in dim light - so the Raynox is
 looking appealing. Your flash diffuser is a great idea as well! A Q sized
 P-TTL flash would also be great.

 The Bolt Ring Light and M 50mm macro has potential, but clearly not for
 flying insects. I am also looking forward to using the Bolt on the K-5 for
 general macro shooting, more int he area of fill light than anything else.

 - Mark




 On 3/30/2013 3:04 PM, Toine wrote:

 Funny effect on the wings.
 Pentax has a telephoto macro on the lens road map. For now I'm happy
 with the raynox 250 in front of the 06 zoom. The internal flash works
 with this setup (no shadow from the lens). I build a flash diffuser.

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/248-q-macro

 Tried the AF200FG with a diffusor on the Q. It's better but heavy
 compared to the camera/lens. maybe a flash bracket helps but it all
 adds volume. Let's hope Pentax designs a little PTTL flash for the Q
 which works with the future macro lens.

 Toine

 On 29 March 2013 23:54, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 Yesterday I tested the nifty Q Macro outfit I had cobbled together on
 some
 bees and found a surprising new wrinkle - rolling shutter distortion! I
 put
 my earlier comments (posted here on the list) and the latest developments
 into a blog post that you can find here:

 http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

 Permalink:


 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/more-pentax-q-macro-experiments-1

 I guess I still have some work to do...

 Mark

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Re: Ping

2013-03-31 Thread Boris Liberman

Gnip


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On March 31, 2013 12:27:38 PM Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

/ping

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Re: GESO - little brother gets an airing

2013-03-31 Thread Derby Chang


Thanks Frank, and everyone else who looked.

Film is Tri-X. Probably not the most appropriate for macro stuff, but 
I'm fond of the grain. This is the first time I've used T-max developer. 
Normally I use Ilfosol 3, and I think I'll go back to it. Mixing at 1:4 
for Tmax is going to get expensive, compared to 1:9 for the Ilford.




On 31/03/2013 11:21 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Lovely.

What film?

cheers,
frank

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Subject: GESO - little brother gets an airing


Thought I should give the 645N a bit of a run. Drove to the mountains,
about an hour and a half each way. Took some lichen photos. Enjoyed.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/mttomah/index.html




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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Derby Chang


Piercing-look baby is great. I quite like it when you get a direct look 
in street shots.


On 31/03/2013 3:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi All:

I did shoot some frames, but couldn't get any gumption to post to the gallery.  
The first 4 photos are the new ones.  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/



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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
Love the patriotic dumpster in the dirty snow. Some true urban yuck!  The baby 
looking at you is a great grab as well.

Paul


On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 Piercing-look baby is great. I quite like it when you get a direct look in 
 street shots.
 
 On 31/03/2013 3:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi All:
 
 I did shoot some frames, but couldn't get any gumption to post to the 
 gallery.  The first 4 photos are the new ones.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/
 
 
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Re: OT - Photographers can clone their own work

2013-03-31 Thread Derby Chang


I think it is really funny the court case happens to be about an 
Eggleston. If it was an Adams or Weston print, sold as fine art limited 
edition vintage prints, then possibly I'd have some sympathy if a bunch 
of them turned up in the market from the same printer.


Eggleston work just begs to be mass produced. It's the core of his style.


On 31/03/2013 5:00 PM, Tom Cakalic wrote:

I agree with you Brian. Selling limited editions of a work, in this
case a print, implies one won't produce and sell 'similar' limited
editions. Allowing it on the technicality of how the print was
produced seems wrong, largely because the collector (at least if it
was me) isn't buying it for how it was produced, they're buying it for
the image and it's artistic value.

On the other hand the fact that the new work is much larger in
physical dimensions, puts it in a different light. There's clearly a
difference between a 17 inch print and a 5 foot print.

As I write this I find myself generally agreeing with the decision,
but not because of the means by which the artwork was produced. I
don't think the collector has a valid claim that a 5 ft print dilutes
the value of his print any more than a book containing the
photographer's work dilutes the value.of a print.

It would be interesting to know what the terms of the earlier sale
were, as that would have a bearing on whether the collector has a
valid claim.

Humorously, maybe he's upset because the buyer of the larger print got
more bang for his buck.

Tom


The U.S. District Court in the Southern District of New York dismissed
collector Jonathan Sobel?s lawsuit against photographer William
Eggleston. The case, art law experts say, has broader implications for
all artists who incorporate old photographic negatives into new work ?
and the collectors who support them.

http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/885054/judge-rules-william-eggleston-can-clone-his-own-work-rebuffing


Yes - saw that mentioned on TOP.  It still seems wrong somehow.


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Re: Q Macro Tests and Rolling Shutter Distortion

2013-03-31 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Mark, Toine


On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:08:53 -0400 Mark C wrote:

Your approach is certainly much more elegant than what I tried. The Raynox on 
the 06 telephoto zoom retains the compactness of the overall Q kit. 


Just a quick check to see if I understand this correctly, the Rainox 250 is an 
8-diopter closeup lens, so the subject distance would 
be something like 12.5 cm right ? And that would be almost independant on the 
focal-length of the Q-lens being used.

So, wouldn't it make just as much sense to use it with the (even faster) 01 
standard lens instead of the 06 telezoom ?


I am looking into getting one, they go for something like 75 Euros here, 
including a step-up ring from 40.5 to 43 mm.


Do you have any sample images taken through the Raynox? I had initially 
considered this approach but was concerned about the Q's AF and the 06 zoom 
 it was pretty slow without a closeup diopter and I worried it it would be too 
 slow with one. I tested the Q and 0y with a reverse mounted 50mm and had 
 major 
problems getting AF to work, but when it did the results were great. The v 
1.11 firmware seems to address the AF issue with the original Q and the 06 
telephoto
 it is quite fast even in dim light - so the Raynox is looking appealing. 

I just went to the Pentax Japan site for that 1.11 update, and it is 
'temporarily unavailable' :-)



BTW: The rolling-shutter distortion in the Bee images that started this thread 
looks quite remarkable.


Regards, JvW

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Re: Q Macro Tests and Rolling Shutter Distortion

2013-03-31 Thread Toine
My gmail client sometimes doesn't send plain text. Another try:

I added a few samples of the raynox on the Q both the 06 zoom and 01 prime:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/248-q-macro

Most of the images are with fill in flash from the Q flash. Scroll
down and click on the image for a larger version.

The raynox and 01 prime gives little extra magnification. The 06 zoom
@ 45 mm has the best macro range/magnification. On both lenses the
working distance is app 10-15cm didn't measure it.
a simple single lens +10 diopter results in a lensbaby effect. The
raynox is a three lens design.

On 31 March 2013 13:12, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 Hi Mark, Toine


 On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:08:53 -0400 Mark C wrote:

Your approach is certainly much more elegant than what I tried. The Raynox on 
the 06 telephoto zoom retains the compactness of the overall Q kit.


 Just a quick check to see if I understand this correctly, the Rainox 250 is 
 an 8-diopter closeup lens, so the subject distance would
 be something like 12.5 cm right ? And that would be almost independant on the 
 focal-length of the Q-lens being used.

 So, wouldn't it make just as much sense to use it with the (even faster) 01 
 standard lens instead of the 06 telezoom ?


 I am looking into getting one, they go for something like 75 Euros here, 
 including a step-up ring from 40.5 to 43 mm.


Do you have any sample images taken through the Raynox? I had initially 
considered this approach but was concerned about the Q's AF and the 06 zoom
 it was pretty slow without a closeup diopter and I worried it it would be 
 too slow with one. I tested the Q and 0y with a reverse mounted 50mm and had 
 major
problems getting AF to work, but when it did the results were great. The v 
1.11 firmware seems to address the AF issue with the original Q and the 06 
telephoto
 it is quite fast even in dim light - so the Raynox is looking appealing.

 I just went to the Pentax Japan site for that 1.11 update, and it is 
 'temporarily unavailable' :-)



 BTW: The rolling-shutter distortion in the Bee images that started this 
 thread looks quite remarkable.


 Regards, JvW

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OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever
owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went
wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment,
and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad notebook I've been
using for the last 2 or 3 years.

Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really surprised
at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.

For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3 days we
used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had this really
awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and pretend paper and bits
of pretend leather for the cover. It was really vile, the worst sort of
'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used to get a real hammering in
books on good visual design - the same books which often promoted Apple's
visual design as a standard - which described this sort of thing as
'overbearing metaphor'. Think of Microsoft Bob
http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another classic example, lest you
think I'm merely Apple-bashing.

So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on the iPad?


A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips,
and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It is really
vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.

They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst of all
is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it or not (not
that I want to use it).

It's not even ironic post-modernism.

Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin these apps
to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a 13-year-old?

Cheers,
Bob


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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Derby Chang


I can't answer your question, Bob. But that skeuomorphism 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph) was a particular fetish of the 
departed software head Scott Forstall


http://venturebeat.com/2012/10/30/skeuomorphic-design-or-one-reason-we-can-be-thankful-scott-forstall-is-gone/

Maybe in time, with Sir Jony taking over, the apps will change.

Logically, I can understand wanting some legacy visual clues to get new 
users used to how apps work, but I totally agree with you about how 
tacky they look in practice. Really reminds be of wood veneer on the 
Brady station wagon.




On 31/03/2013 10:38 PM, Bob W wrote:

I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever
owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went
wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment,
and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad notebook I've been
using for the last 2 or 3 years.

Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really surprised
at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.

For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3 days we
used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had this really
awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and pretend paper and bits
of pretend leather for the cover. It was really vile, the worst sort of
'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used to get a real hammering in
books on good visual design - the same books which often promoted Apple's
visual design as a standard - which described this sort of thing as
'overbearing metaphor'. Think of Microsoft Bob
http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another classic example, lest you
think I'm merely Apple-bashing.

So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on the iPad?


A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips,
and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It is really
vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.

They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst of all
is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it or not (not
that I want to use it).

It's not even ironic post-modernism.

Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin these apps
to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a 13-year-old?

Cheers,
Bob





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Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me  
realise that I needed to get off my backside and take some photos with  
my Q.


My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than  
true macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came  
across a Canon Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came from but  
may have been attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago  
(that's certainly the only Canon I've ever owned).


The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step  
-up rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front  
of the 06 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).


Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to  
see how the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is with the  
close up lens attached and as close as I could get to the plant while  
still being able to autofocus.


Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I  
totally forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens  
pretty much wide open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the  
result and the close up lens will become part of my 'Q Kit'.



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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Derby Chang


Big bad Banksia men are rather pretty close up, aren't they? I like the 
soft top light in these.



On 31/03/2013 11:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me 
realise that I needed to get off my backside and take some photos with 
my Q.


My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than 
true macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came 
across a Canon Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came from but 
may have been attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago 
(that's certainly the only Canon I've ever owned).


The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step 
-up rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front 
of the 06 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).


Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to 
see how the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is with the 
close up lens attached and as close as I could get to the plant while 
still being able to autofocus.


Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I 
totally forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens 
pretty much wide open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the 
result and the close up lens will become part of my 'Q Kit'.






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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
You're right. Apple apps are tacky looking. I hadn't really thought about it. I 
just use them and like the way they work. I can add a contact on my phone and 
it shows up immediately on both of my computers. Same thing with notes, 
reminders, and calendar entries. For us oldsters, it's nice to have a visual 
clue for those times when we forget what we're doing:-).


On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever
 owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went
 wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment,
 and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad notebook I've been
 using for the last 2 or 3 years.
 
 Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really surprised
 at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.
 
 For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3 days we
 used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had this really
 awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and pretend paper and bits
 of pretend leather for the cover. It was really vile, the worst sort of
 'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used to get a real hammering in
 books on good visual design - the same books which often promoted Apple's
 visual design as a standard - which described this sort of thing as
 'overbearing metaphor'. Think of Microsoft Bob
 http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another classic example, lest you
 think I'm merely Apple-bashing.
 
 So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on the iPad?
 
 
 A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips,
 and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It is really
 vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.
 
 They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst of all
 is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it or not (not
 that I want to use it).
 
 It's not even ironic post-modernism.
 
 Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin these apps
 to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a 13-year-old?
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:


Big bad Banksia men are rather pretty close up, aren't they?


Yeah, they are.  I never get sick of photographing them.




I like the soft top light in these.


Thanks Derbs - but it's pretty hard to take a bad photo of a Banksia


Cheers

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On 31/03/2013 11:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me  
realise that I needed to get off my backside and take some photos  
with my Q.


My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than  
true macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I  
came across a Canon Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came  
from but may have been attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought  
some years ago (that's certainly the only Canon I've ever owned).


The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough  
step -up rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on  
the front of the 06 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).


Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just  
to see how the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is  
with the close up lens attached and as close as I could get to the  
plant while still being able to autofocus.


Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I  
totally forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens  
pretty much wide open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the  
result and the close up lens will become part of my 'Q Kit'.






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Re: Ping

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
/pang peng ping pong pung pyng
 


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To: Mail List Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:27 AM
Subject: Ping

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RE: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Derby Chang
 
 I can't answer your question, Bob. But that skeuomorphism
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph) was a particular fetish of
 the departed software head Scott Forstall
 
 http://venturebeat.com/2012/10/30/skeuomorphic-design-or-one-reason-we-
 can-be-thankful-scott-forstall-is-gone/
 
 Maybe in time, with Sir Jony taking over, the apps will change.
 

Well, let's hope so. Thanks for those links - I'm glad I'm not the only
aesthete whose delicate sense of taste has been offended. After the very
engineered experience of taking the machine out of the box it really pulls
you up sharp when you see that sort of thing. 

B

 Logically, I can understand wanting some legacy visual clues to get new
 users used to how apps work, but I totally agree with you about how
 tacky they look in practice. Really reminds be of wood veneer on the
 Brady station wagon.
 
 
 
 On 31/03/2013 10:38 PM, Bob W wrote:
  I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've
 ever
  owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they
  went wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at
 the
  moment, and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad
  notebook I've been using for the last 2 or 3 years.
 
  Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really
  surprised at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.
 
  For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3
  days we used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had
  this really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and
  pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It was
 really
  vile, the worst sort of 'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used
  to get a real hammering in books on good visual design - the same
  books which often promoted Apple's visual design as a standard -
 which
  described this sort of thing as 'overbearing metaphor'. Think of
  Microsoft Bob http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another
  classic example, lest you think I'm merely Apple-bashing.
 
  So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on
 the iPad?
 
 
  A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder
  clips, and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover.
 It
  is really vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.
 
  They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst
 of
  all is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it
  or not (not that I want to use it).
 
  It's not even ironic post-modernism.
 
  Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin
  these apps to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a
 13-year-old?
 
  Cheers,
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PESO - Pasteur

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
The Pasteur station of the Paris Metro, that is.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094514size=lg


(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Brian.  An amazing plant to be sure.  Cheers, Christine


On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 G'day all
 
 Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me realise that 
 I needed to get off my backside and take some photos with my Q.
 
 My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than true macro 
 - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came across a Canon 
 Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came from but may have been 
 attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago (that's certainly 
 the only Canon I've ever owned).
 
 The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step -up 
 rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front of the 06 
 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).
 
 Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.
 
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html
 
 The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to see how 
 the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is with the close up lens 
 attached and as close as I could get to the plant while still being able to 
 autofocus.
 
 Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I totally 
 forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens pretty much wide 
 open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the result and the close up lens 
 will become part of my 'Q Kit'.
 
 
 -- 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila

On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 You're right. Apple apps are tacky looking. I hadn't really thought about it. 
 I just use them and like the way they work. I can add a contact on my phone 
 and it shows up immediately on both of my computers. Same thing with notes, 
 reminders, and calendar entries. For us oldsters, it's nice to have a visual 
 clue for those times when we forget what we're doing:-).


Well, the syncing is nice when the cloud is working.  My iCloud space has 
recently gone wonky and the iCloud engineers are supposedly working on it right 
now.  I'm supposed to get a call from Apple in a few hours.  Hopefully, this 
will be fixed.  Not sure why after two years owning the iPad my cloud space 
stopped working.  Christine  
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Wow! Amazing photos of an unusual plant.
You're making me want a Q.
Regaards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 G'day all

 Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me realise that
 I needed to get off my backside and take some photos with my Q.

 My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than true
 macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came across a
 Canon Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came from but may have been
 attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago (that's certainly
 the only Canon I've ever owned).

 The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step -up
 rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front of the 06
 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).

 Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

 The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to see how
 the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is with the close up lens
 attached and as close as I could get to the plant while still being able to
 autofocus.

 Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I totally
 forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens pretty much wide
 open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the result and the close up lens
 will become part of my 'Q Kit'.


 --
 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Derby and Paul!  I really wanted a straight on shot of the dumpster, 
but there was a car in front of it, so had to settle for this angled shot, 
which I've made peace with.  The kid shot was taken while doing the stutter 
step--one of the successful ones.  Cheers, Christine




On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 Love the patriotic dumpster in the dirty snow. Some true urban yuck!  The 
 baby looking at you is a great grab as well.
 
 Paul
 
 
 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 Piercing-look baby is great. I quite like it when you get a direct look in 
 street shots.
 
 On 31/03/2013 3:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi All:
 
 I did shoot some frames, but couldn't get any gumption to post to the 
 gallery.  The first 4 photos are the new ones.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/
 
 
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Re: PAW 2013catch-up

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Frank!  Cheers, Christine



On Mar 30, 2013, at 7:16 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Magnificent gallery!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
 Sent: March 30, 2013 3/30/13
 To: PDML List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PAW  2013catch-up
 
 Hi All:
 
 I did keep shooting for the last four weeks, but couldn't get any gumption to 
 upload to the PAW gallery, but I have now.  The first four photos are the 
 most recent. Cheers, Christine
 
 
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila

On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow! Amazing photos of an unusual plant.
 You're making me want a Q.
 Regaards,  Bob S.


I'm hankering for one as well.  Cheers, Christine

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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
Those are impressive!

What were the exposures?

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:14 AM
Subject: Some close up tests with the Q

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me realise that I 
needed to get off my backside and take some photos with my Q.

My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than true macro - 
so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came across a Canon 
Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came from but may have been attached 
to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago (that's certainly the only 
Canon I've ever owned).

The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step -up rings 
between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front of the 06 zoom (5 
step-up rings in total).

Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to see how 
the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is with the close up lens 
attached and as close as I could get to the plant while still being able to 
autofocus.

Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I totally forgot 
about depth of field, so these are all with the lens pretty much wide open.  
But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the result and the close up lens will 
become part of my 'Q Kit'.


--Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - mailbox - interrupted pattern

2013-03-31 Thread George Sinos
Thanks for the comments.  I'm gravitating toward the horizontal
version, but it's going to have to cook for a while before I print it.
  I have a test print of the square version and I agree, the texture
of the dirt on the doors needs to be emphasized.

Thanks, gs

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Re: PESO - Pasteur

2013-03-31 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
Clean, bright station to photograph.
Wish the people were a bigger part of the photo.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The Pasteur station of the Paris Metro, that is.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094514size=lg


 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO - Pasteur

2013-03-31 Thread Jack Davis
Very well done, Rick!
 
Jack


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Subject: PESO - Pasteur

The Pasteur station of the Paris Metro, that is.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094514size=lg


(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Sorenson
Do a search in the App Store for Calendars by Readdle. They have a free one 
and another for about 3USD. Readdle seems to make good apps and the customer 
service is great. 

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever
 owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went
 wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment,
 and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad notebook I've been
 using for the last 2 or 3 years.
 
 Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really surprised
 at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.
 
 For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3 days we
 used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had this really
 awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and pretend paper and bits
 of pretend leather for the cover. It was really vile, the worst sort of
 'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used to get a real hammering in
 books on good visual design - the same books which often promoted Apple's
 visual design as a standard - which described this sort of thing as
 'overbearing metaphor'. Think of Microsoft Bob
 http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another classic example, lest you
 think I'm merely Apple-bashing.
 
 So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on the iPad?
 
 
 A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips,
 and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It is really
 vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.
 
 They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst of all
 is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it or not (not
 that I want to use it).
 
 It's not even ironic post-modernism.
 
 Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin these apps
 to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a 13-year-old?
 
 Cheers,
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Re: OT - Photographers can clone their own work

2013-03-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote:

Photographers across the country can breathe a sigh of relief. The
U.S. District Court in the Southern District of New York dismissed
collector Jonathan Sobel’s lawsuit against photographer William
Eggleston. The case, art law experts say, has broader implications for
all artists who incorporate old photographic negatives into new work —
and the collectors who support them.

http://www.artinfo.com/news/story/885054/judge-rules-william-eggleston-can-clone-his-own-work-rebuffing

A victory for common sense, IMO. I don't think this is even really
new. Photographers have long made the term limited apply to only
prints of a specific size, for example. A limited edition *print*
should be just that, a limited version of the image produced in a
specific size with a specific printing technology.

And I'd wager the success of the new print sale *increased* the value
of the plaintiff's original Eggleston print, if anything.

 
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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms
I know this is a minor point to kvetch about, but shouldn't week-1 be 
the first photo in the gallery, week-2 the second, ...?


I apologize if this seems rude, but some *^%#% woke me up before noon 
on a Sunday.


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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
Well, it's because of the fixed numbering options in the Lightroom web gallery. 
 I can't control that.  I could turn it off, but I'm used to it now and count 
backwards :-)  Cheers, Christine



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 I know this is a minor point to kvetch about, but shouldn't week-1 be the 
 first photo in the gallery, week-2 the second, ...?
 
 I apologize if this seems rude, but some *^%#% woke me up before noon on a 
 Sunday.
 
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RE: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms

Meanwhile, at Microsoft ...

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6855756_700b.jpg

From: Bob W

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Derby Chang

I can't answer your question, Bob. But that skeuomorphism
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph) was a particular fetish of
the departed software head Scott Forstall

http://venturebeat.com/2012/10/30/skeuomorphic-design-or-one-reason-we-
can-be-thankful-scott-forstall-is-gone/

Maybe in time, with Sir Jony taking over, the apps will change.



Well, let's hope so. Thanks for those links - I'm glad I'm not the only
aesthete whose delicate sense of taste has been offended. After the very
engineered experience of taking the machine out of the box it really pulls
you up sharp when you see that sort of thing.

B


Logically, I can understand wanting some legacy visual clues to get new
users used to how apps work, but I totally agree with you about how
tacky they look in practice. Really reminds be of wood veneer on the
Brady station wagon.



On 31/03/2013 10:38 PM, Bob W wrote:

I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've

ever

owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they
went wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at

the

moment, and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad
notebook I've been using for the last 2 or 3 years.

Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really
surprised at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.

For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3
days we used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had
this really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and
pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It was

really

vile, the worst sort of 'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used
to get a real hammering in books on good visual design - the same
books which often promoted Apple's visual design as a standard -

which

described this sort of thing as 'overbearing metaphor'. Think of
Microsoft Bob http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another
classic example, lest you think I'm merely Apple-bashing.

So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on

the iPad?



A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder
clips, and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover.

It

is really vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.

They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst

of

all is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it
or not (not that I want to use it).

It's not even ironic post-modernism.

Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin
these apps to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a

13-year-old?


Cheers,
Bob


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Re: PESO - Revisiting an Old Photo

2013-03-31 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17091312size=lg
 
 One tiny nit:  the buttons or whatever they are in her collar distract
 my attention, probably because of their location right at the clavicle
 bones.
 
 Thanks Dan. I had never noticed the buttons. At first I thought you
 were referring to her earrings.  But now I see what you're referring
 to. They may just be collar points. Not sure. I could get rid of them
 and make the collar smooth. I'll have to look at the hi-res version.

They're definitely collar points to my eye, and presumably she was
deliberately going for that effect (particularly if you saw her in that
shirt or similar shirts other times).  I'd be hesitant to change another
persons's sartorial choices through photographic manipulation.
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Re: PESO - mailbox - interrupted pattern

2013-03-31 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013, George Sinos wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I need a little feedback on this one. I'm not sure it's worth pursuing.

 http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/Misc-private/1804874_X84PMn#!i=2431403562k=nbGb2Bdlb=1s=A

 The lock on my mailbox broke and had to be replaced.  It struck me as
 something that could be used as an example of a broken pattern.

 OK - here's a rectangular crop of the same shot.  I think I like it better.
 
 http://www.georgesphotos.net/Other/Misc-private/1804874_X84PMn#!i=2431418841k=phzsQCwlb=1s=A

That's definitely worse IMO because the edge crosses the locks, might
work better if you widen the crop.

Overall, particularly with the shininess of lock 3, I find it difficult
to see what you're looking at even with the description, it's too subtle
for the effect I think you're trying to achieve.
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Re: Very Cheap Adone (Photoshop) licenses - is this legal?

2013-03-31 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
 
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 my new Photoshop computer last year.

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RE: PESO - Pasteur

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
 
 Rick,
 Clean, bright station to photograph.
 Wish the people were a bigger part of the photo.

they've been pasteurised.

I love the old tiles in the Paris metro. In this shot I particularly love
the tile which carries the ceramist's name. 

The frame around the station names is one of the indicators of which line
you're on. Metro networks, like the tube, seem to bring out the best in
designers. The wikipedia article is quite informative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_Paris_M%C3%A9tro

This is what Pasteur used to look like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Paris_-_Station_Pasteur_du_Metropolitain.
jpg

When I first travelled on the Paris metro (not as long ago as that photo!)
they had still had some of those rickety old wooden carriages, smelling
evocatively of Gauloises, mutilés de guerre, and the shortage of bathrooms
in Paris. The modern carriages are very beautiful too.

B

 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  The Pasteur station of the Paris Metro, that is.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094514size=lg
 
 
  (K-5, DA 16-45)
 
  Comments appreciated!
 
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RE: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
Thanks - I've donwloaded their document app, which looks quite useful. I
haven't tried the calendar yet because it doesn't seem to sync with the
Outlook / Hotmail calendar, which is where I keep mine because of using
Outlook for so long. I don't want to transfer it to google's calendar, which
Readdle does sync with, because I'm trying not let this stuff proliferate
across different providers.

B

 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson
 Sent: 31 March 2013 15:25
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors
 
 Do a search in the App Store for Calendars by Readdle. They have a
 free one and another for about 3USD. Readdle seems to make good apps
 and the customer service is great.
 
 -p
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've
 ever
  owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they
  went wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at
 the
  moment, and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad
  notebook I've been using for the last 2 or 3 years.
 
  Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really
  surprised at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.
 
  For example, at the place where I worked way back in the Windows 3
  days we used Lotus Notes for our calendar and email. The calendar had
  this really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder clips, and
  pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover. It was
 really
  vile, the worst sort of 'chartjunk', to borrow Tufte's term, and used
  to get a real hammering in books on good visual design - the same
  books which often promoted Apple's visual design as a standard -
 which
  described this sort of thing as 'overbearing metaphor'. Think of
  Microsoft Bob http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html for another
  classic example, lest you think I'm merely Apple-bashing.
 
  So what do I find when I start setting up my calendar and stuff on
 the iPad?
 
 
  A calendar with a really awful Filofax look, with fake ring-binder
  clips, and pretend paper and bits of pretend leather for the cover.
 It
  is really vile, the worst sort of chartjunk.
 
  They've committed the same crime with their Contacts app, and worst
 of
  all is their Newsstand, which has faux woodgrain shelves, believe it
  or not (not that I want to use it).
 
  It's not even ironic post-modernism.
 
  Do any of the Apple junkies here know if there's a way to re-skin
  these apps to something that doesn't look like it was designed by a
 13-year-old?
 
  Cheers,
  Bob
 
 
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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:38 AM, Bob W wrote:

 I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever
 owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went
 wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment,
 and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad notebook I've been
 using for the last 2 or 3 years.
 
 Considering the reputation they have for good design, I'm really surprised
 at some of the shitey junk in Apple's apps.

Not all of the apps were written by Apple.

But, as was mentioned, the person responsible for the skeumorphism, has been 
shown the door, so things could get better.

When the iPod touch came out, I really wanted to like it. It was so shiny and 
cool, but iOS and I get along even worse than I do with mornings.

Not long ago, Fry's was willing to match an Adorama sale price of $420 on an 
ASUS tranformer TF300T and keyboard.  I picked it up to show off my photos and 
have been pleasantly surprised at how useful it is just as a small netbook. 
32GB internally, 32 on a micro SD in the tablet, and another 32GB on an SD card 
in the keyboard.  Plus it has a battery in the keyboard that'll charge the 
tablet when they are docked.  My one hardware complaint was that it didn't have 
GPS, then someone showed me that I just hadn't activated the GPS.  I was amused 
to note that with a quad core gigahertz processor, it has more Instructions Per 
Second than the stack of my three previous laptops combined.

This week they seem to be going for $500 for the pair:
http://www.adorama.com/ASTF300TB1WK.html

The new, just released TF700 seems to have a nicer screen:
http://www.adorama.com/ASTF700TC1G.html

The short form is that this is one of those occasional tech devices that I keep 
finding more things to like about it.

I'm using Quick Pic to show my photos, which has the ability to exclude 
directories from the display, so most of the time, I exclude the directory on 
my micro SD card that has my photos that I wouldn't want coworkers, children, 
etc. to stumble across.

Shortly after I got it the upgrades to 4.1, then 4.2 were available.  

The ASUS site even has the rooted version of the kernel available for download, 
though that would void the warranty.

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Re: PESO - Pasteur

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
Bob,

About the people: Yeah, me too.

The problem was that approaching train. We were on our way to meet friends for 
dinner, had already waited a while, and lingering for a better shot would have 
incurred considerable spousal displeasure.

Rick


 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Pasteur

Rick,
Clean, bright station to photograph.
Wish the people were a bigger part of the photo.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 The Pasteur station of the Paris Metro, that is.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094514size=lg


 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments appreciated!

 Rick

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Re: PESO - Pasteur

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Jack!


 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Pasteur

Very well done, Rick!
 
Jack


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To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net
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Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:51 AM
Subject: PESO - Pasteur

The Pasteur station of the Paris Metro, that is.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094514size=lg


(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Bruce Walker
Apologies for just a me-too, but what Paul said.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Love the patriotic dumpster in the dirty snow. Some true urban yuck!  The 
 baby looking at you is a great grab as well.

 Paul


 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 Piercing-look baby is great. I quite like it when you get a direct look in 
 street shots.

 On 31/03/2013 3:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi All:

 I did shoot some frames, but couldn't get any gumption to post to the 
 gallery.  The first 4 photos are the new ones.  Cheers, Christine

 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/


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Re: GESO - little brother gets an airing

2013-03-31 Thread Bruce Walker
Those are all really good, but #3 is an absolute knock-out.

I was expecting to see some streeties though, Derby. :-)

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 Thought I should give the 645N a bit of a run. Drove to the mountains, about
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 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/mttomah/index.html

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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C
Wow - those are really great! I assume the flower must be at least 3 
inches long for the shots without any closeup filter? Quite sharp and 
clean images. The macro are really excellent as well.  I'll have to look 
into the closeup lens 450. I tried some single element close up lenses I 
have, including the ones lensbaby makes, but they are very soft and full 
of distortions.


Mark

On 3/31/2013 8:14 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me 
realise that I needed to get off my backside and take some photos with 
my Q.


My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than 
true macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came 
across a Canon Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came from but 
may have been attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago 
(that's certainly the only Canon I've ever owned).


The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step 
-up rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front 
of the 06 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).


Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to 
see how the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is with the 
close up lens attached and as close as I could get to the plant while 
still being able to autofocus.


Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I 
totally forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens 
pretty much wide open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the 
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Re: PESO: Bellbird

2013-03-31 Thread Joseph McAllister
NICE. Stealth is good!  :)

On Mar 30, 2013, at 22:35 , David Mann wrote:

 I was very lucky today.  A bellbird came to visit our garden.  I see one here 
 maybe once or twice a year.  They tend to hang out closer to the hills, about 
 2km away.  They're quite skittish and I've had the AF motor of my camera 
 scare one off before.  Today I kept my distance and managed to get a photo.



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Re: GESO - little brother gets an airing

2013-03-31 Thread Toine
Lovely set. Looks like an enjoyable photo trip.


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 Thought I should give the 645N a bit of a run. Drove to the mountains, about
 an hour and a half each way. Took some lichen photos. Enjoyed.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/mttomah/index.html

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Re: Very Cheap Adone (Photoshop) licenses - is this legal?

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Aahz Maruch

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:


I was able to buy Windoze 7 Pro 64-bit OEM version when I was building
my new Photoshop computer last year.


My strong recommendation is to avoid OEM Windows if there's any
likelihood you'll change the hardware significantly before changing
Windows versions (or if you're planning to run Windows in a VM).
Microsoft is much stickier about transferring licenses around with OEM
copies.


Maybe they are, but I have not found that to be true. The only real
difference with OEM Windoze is Microsoft does not provide product
support. You get your product support from the OEM.

I build my own computers. I *am* the OEM.

I use this computer for goofing off on the Internet. It's about 15 years
old. I rebuild it whenever I have to.

Since I first built it, it has gone from Windows95 to Windoze98 to
WindozeNT 4.0 to WindozeXP Pro - ALL OEM versions.

Along the way it's been through several hard drives (starting at 850MB)
 at least 3 motherboards (including a switch over from Intel to AMD).

The current installation of WindozeXP Pro was on the system with the
last motherboard change and was cloned over to the current 250GB drive
in a FAT32 partition.

I have had to RE-register a couple of times. Mostly, I've not had any
problems doing so.

The only problem I've ever had with Microsoft was I misplaced the (OEM
product key) certificate when I moved back home from school  had to
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WinPing

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
bla bla bla


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Re: iPing (was WinPing

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
iBla iBla iBla

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Re: iPing (was WinPing

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
iBla iBla iBla

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 bla bla bla
 
 
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Re: Very Cheap Adone (Photoshop) licenses - is this legal?

2013-03-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 April 2013 08:09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Since I first built it, it has gone from Windows95 to Windoze98 to
 WindozeNT 4.0 to WindozeXP Pro - ALL OEM versions.

Hi John,

What you say has been my experience also but from Vista onwards it's a
different story, the software is serial number conscious, so it takes
quite a bit more work to manage a seamless transition to different
hardware (assuming that you wish to retain the current app software
installation).

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Feb and March favorites

2013-03-31 Thread Larry Colen
I haven't been taking many photos these days, only 7 keepers between february 
and march:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632693742754/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632916862667/

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Ot: plaintext (was Re: iPing (was WinPing

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
So it looks as though the iPad mail client composes in not plain text, but 
replies in it. Any one know if it can be changed to compose in plain text?

B

On 31 Mar 2013, at 22:15, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 iBla iBla iBla
 
 On 31 Mar 2013, at 22:12, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 bla bla bla
 
 
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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/3/13, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well, the syncing is nice when the cloud is working.  My iCloud space
has recently gone wonky and the iCloud engineers are supposedly working
on it right now.  I'm supposed to get a call from Apple in a few hours. 
Hopefully, this will be fixed.  Not sure why after two years owning the
iPad my cloud space stopped working.  Christine 

Interesting.

Before Apple called it iCloud, in the first iPhone they had a cloud-
syncing service (effectively mac.com and it cost money to use) and I
used it to begin with. After a week or so there was a well-publicised
outage at Apple and quite a few iPhone users suddenly found all their
contacts vanished! I have about 300 - about half business contacts and
half personal. Of course, with the cloud, there was no need to back up
locally, and I hadn't. My bad.

A day or two later the contacts reappeared and all was well. At that
point I changed my syncing routine to 'back up locally to this computer'
and synced to my Mac. I have never since used the cloud to back up
anything. I guess once bitten...

The more and more that the personal computing industry pushes cloud
storage, the more and more I decided not to take part.

.02

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Is there a decimal point misplaced here?

2013-03-31 Thread Brian Walters
..or are these things a lot more rare than it appears (dubious -  
given that the seller has 10 sets available):


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pentax-Auto-Extension-Tube-Set-K-/230955650656?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessorieshash=item35c6078e60ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:AU:101

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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
If you use the cloud for business purposes you should make sure you have a 
service level agreement with the provider that defines their responsibilities 
for backing up, restoring after a failure, disaster recovery and business 
continuity, withi independent evidence at least annually that they have carried 
out the appropriate tests, and put in action plans for fixing any issues. There 
are all sorts of traps waiting for people who bet their business on supposedly 
free cloud services.

If you decide to look into it again for your business Ican help you ask the 
right questions, and evaluate the answers. I've done it a lot for various 
employers.

B

On 31 Mar 2013, at 22:40, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 On 31/3/13, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Well, the syncing is nice when the cloud is working.  My iCloud space
 has recently gone wonky and the iCloud engineers are supposedly working
 on it right now.  I'm supposed to get a call from Apple in a few hours. 
 Hopefully, this will be fixed.  Not sure why after two years owning the
 iPad my cloud space stopped working.  Christine
 
 Interesting.
 
 Before Apple called it iCloud, in the first iPhone they had a cloud-
 syncing service (effectively mac.com and it cost money to use) and I
 used it to begin with. After a week or so there was a well-publicised
 outage at Apple and quite a few iPhone users suddenly found all their
 contacts vanished! I have about 300 - about half business contacts 
 ando-called free cloud services.
 half personal. Of course, with the cloud, there was no need to back up
 locally, and I hadn't. My bad.
 
 A day or two later the contacts reappeared and all was well. At that
 point I changed my syncing routine to 'back up locally to this computer'
 and synced to my Mac. I have never since used the cloud to back up
 anything. I guess once bitten...
 
 The more and more that the personal computing industry pushes cloud
 storage, the more and more I decided not to take part.
 
 .02
 
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:


Those are impressive!

What were the exposures?



Thanks, Rick.

The exposures were embarrassing

All at ISO 400

The top one: f4-5 at 1/500 sec
The second: f4.5 at 1/640 sec
The third: f5 at 1/1250 sec

Given that the camera was tripod mounted, I should have stopped down a  
lot more.



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- Original Message -
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
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Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:14 AM
Subject: Some close up tests with the Q

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me  
realise that I needed to get off my backside and take some photos  
with my Q.


My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than  
true macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I  
came across a Canon Close-Up Lens 450.nbsp; I'm not sure where it  
came from but may have been attached to an old Canonflex SLR I  
bought some years ago (that's certainly the only Canon I've ever  
owned).


The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step  
-up rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the  
front of the 06 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).


Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to  
see how the 06 zoom preformed on its own.nbsp; The third photo is  
with the close up lens attached and as close as I could get to the  
plant while still being able to autofocus.


Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I  
totally forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens  
pretty much wide open.nbsp; But, all told, I'm pretty happy with  
the result and the close up lens will become part of my 'Q Kit'.







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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't rely on iCloud for file backup or storage. I like it in that it syncs 
my contacts and calendars, but the data is stored on at least one of my 
machines. Using internet servers to sync all your machines is great. Using them 
for storage or even backup is not something I want to experiment with.

Paul
On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 If you use the cloud for business purposes you should make sure you have a 
 service level agreement with the provider that defines their responsibilities 
 for backing up, restoring after a failure, disaster recovery and business 
 continuity, withi independent evidence at least annually that they have 
 carried out the appropriate tests, and put in action plans for fixing any 
 issues. There are all sorts of traps waiting for people who bet their 
 business on supposedly free cloud services.
 
 If you decide to look into it again for your business Ican help you ask the 
 right questions, and evaluate the answers. I've done it a lot for various 
 employers.
 
 B
 
 On 31 Mar 2013, at 22:40, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 On 31/3/13, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Well, the syncing is nice when the cloud is working.  My iCloud space
 has recently gone wonky and the iCloud engineers are supposedly working
 on it right now.  I'm supposed to get a call from Apple in a few hours. 
 Hopefully, this will be fixed.  Not sure why after two years owning the
 iPad my cloud space stopped working.  Christine
 
 Interesting.
 
 Before Apple called it iCloud, in the first iPhone they had a cloud-
 syncing service (effectively mac.com and it cost money to use) and I
 used it to begin with. After a week or so there was a well-publicised
 outage at Apple and quite a few iPhone users suddenly found all their
 contacts vanished! I have about 300 - about half business contacts 
 ando-called free cloud services.
 half personal. Of course, with the cloud, there was no need to back up
 locally, and I hadn't. My bad.
 
 A day or two later the contacts reappeared and all was well. At that
 point I changed my syncing routine to 'back up locally to this computer'
 and synced to my Mac. I have never since used the cloud to back up
 anything. I guess once bitten...
 
 The more and more that the personal computing industry pushes cloud
 storage, the more and more I decided not to take part.
 
 .02
 
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:

Wow - those are really great! I assume the flower must be at least 3  
inches long for the shots without any closeup filter? Quite sharp  
and clean images. The macro are really excellent as well.  I'll have  
to look into the closeup lens 450. I tried some single element close  
up lenses I have, including the ones lensbaby makes, but they are  
very soft and full of distortions.



The flower spike is about 4 inches long (quite small for a Banksia!)

I don't know a lot about the close up lens.  Apparently Canon produced  
(or maybe still produce) a range of these in various strengths, some  
of double-element achromatic design and some not.  I think the former  
have a 'D' suffix in the designation.  Mine doesn't so I suspect it's  
a single element version.


Thanks for the comment - thanks also Rick, Bob and Christine.


Cheers

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Mark

On 3/31/2013 8:14 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me  
realise that I needed to get off my backside and take some photos  
with my Q.


My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than  
true macro - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I  
came across a Canon Close-Up Lens 450.  I'm not sure where it came  
from but may have been attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought  
some years ago (that's certainly the only Canon I've ever owned).


The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough  
step -up rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on  
the front of the 06 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).


Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just  
to see how the 06 zoom preformed on its own.  The third photo is  
with the close up lens attached and as close as I could get to the  
plant while still being able to autofocus.


Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I  
totally forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens  
pretty much wide open.  But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the  
result and the close up lens will become part of my 'Q Kit'.






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OT: Google Nose

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
Google has a habit of putting out products that don't last long. I don't
think this one will last longer than a day:
https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/

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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
No apologies necessary, Bruce!  Thanks much.  Cheers, Christine



On Mar 31, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apologies for just a me-too, but what Paul said.
 
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 Love the patriotic dumpster in the dirty snow. Some true urban yuck!  The 
 baby looking at you is a great grab as well.
 
 Paul
 
 
 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 Piercing-look baby is great. I quite like it when you get a direct look in 
 street shots.
 
 On 31/03/2013 3:06 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi All:
 
 I did shoot some frames, but couldn't get any gumption to post to the 
 gallery.  The first 4 photos are the new ones.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/
 
 
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Re: OT: Google Nose

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila

On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Google has a habit of putting out products that don't last long. I don't
 think this one will last longer than a day:
 https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/


Yikes!  

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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila

On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 
 A day or two later the contacts reappeared and all was well. At that
 point I changed my syncing routine to 'back up locally to this computer'
 and synced to my Mac. I have never since used the cloud to back up
 anything. I guess once bitten...

I shall have to go this route too. Yes, this is my first time bitten . . . 


 
 The more and more that the personal computing industry pushes cloud
 storage, the more and more I decided not to take part.
 
 .02

A very valuable .02 :-)

Cheers, christine

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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila

On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 If you use the cloud for business purposes you should make sure you have a 
 service level agreement with the provider that defines their responsibilities 
 for backing up, restoring after a failure, disaster recovery and business 
 continuity, withi independent evidence at least annually that they have 
 carried out the appropriate tests, and put in action plans for fixing any 
 issues. There are all sorts of traps waiting for people who bet their 
 business on supposedly free cloud services.
 
 If you decide to look into it again for your business Ican help you ask the 
 right questions, and evaluate the answers. I've done it a lot for various 
 employers.


Good advice, Bob.  Thanks.  Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila

On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I don't rely on iCloud for file backup or storage. I like it in that it syncs 
 my contacts and calendars, but the data is stored on at least one of my 
 machines. Using internet servers to sync all your machines is great. Using 
 them for storage or even backup is not something I want to experiment with.


I don't think I will be relying on it in future either.  Cheers, Christine
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Re: Feb and March favorites

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C
The hawk is nice and the camera operator is excellent. The IR dance 
scenes don't work for me - I instantly hear the Cramps doing Zombie 
Dance in my head. Which isn't all bad...


Mark

On 3/31/2013 5:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I haven't been taking many photos these days, only 7 keepers between february 
and march:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632693742754/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632916862667/

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Re: GESO - little brother gets an airing

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C
Really nice shots - the first two are my favorites. Number two is really 
quite intriguing.


Mark

On 3/30/2013 6:15 AM, Derby Chang wrote:


Thought I should give the 645N a bit of a run. Drove to the mountains, 
about an hour and a half each way. Took some lichen photos. Enjoyed.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/mttomah/index.html




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Re: Feb and March favorites

2013-03-31 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Mark C wrote:

 The hawk is nice and the camera operator is excellent. The IR dance scenes 
 don't work for me -

I can understand that.  It is definitely a specialized technique and not one 
that is going to appeal to everyone.  


 I instantly hear the Cramps doing Zombie Dance in my head. Which isn't all 
 bad...

I think that I can figure out where you get that connection.

:-)

 
 Mark
 
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 I haven't been taking many photos these days, only 7 keepers between 
 february and march:
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632693742754/
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632916862667/
 
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Re: PESO - My Snowdrop Pic

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C
It must officially be spring! Another nice addition to the snowdrop 
collection, Paul.


Mark

On 3/29/2013 5:35 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I've posted a snowdrop pic every year now for quite some time. There a bit late 
this year, but spring sorta kinda tried to push it's way up through the frozen 
Michigan ground today. The snowdrop's leaves are still yellow in spots from 
having been buried under snow and leaves. But the blooms popped open today. As 
usual, shot with the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5, f11 @ 1/160th, ISO 800.

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Re: PESO: Bellbird

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C

That looks like one angry bird. Nice capture!

Mark

On 3/31/2013 1:35 AM, David Mann wrote:

I was very lucky today.  A bellbird came to visit our garden.  I see one here 
maybe once or twice a year.  They tend to hang out closer to the hills, about 
2km away.  They're quite skittish and I've had the AF motor of my camera scare 
one off before.  Today I kept my distance and managed to get a photo.

http://www.multi.net.nz/bellbird/

This is a fairly heavy crop.  It's also had some Shadow / Highlight treatment 
to bring out his plumage.  It's a touch noisy as I shot at 800ISO due to poor light.

K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6.

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Re: Pesos barns and a mill

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C

Nice shots, David. The summer shot of the Mill is my favorite.

Mark

On 3/10/2013 11:31 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Did a photo drive Saturday to take pictures for my 4 seasons project,
here are just a few of the winter shots:

Barn on 9th:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17024533
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17024552

Black barn but was a red barn:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17024534

Peff's mill in Udora:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17024562
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17024560

K-5 with dfa 50-200

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Re: Q Macro Tests and Rolling Shutter Distortion

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C


Thanks, Toine. The quality looks very good. I definitely  will be 
looking at the Roynox again. Also thanks for pointing out the Q lens 
roadmap - great to see the work 'macro' on it!


Mark

On 3/31/2013 5:37 AM, Toine wrote:

I added a few samples of the raynox on the Q both the 06 zoom and 01 prime:
http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/248-q-macro
Most of the images are with fill in flash from the Q flash. Scroll
down and click on the image for a larger version. It's not perfect,
once Pentax releases a macro for the Q I'll bite but for now it's
amazing what I can do with a pocket camera.

Toine

On 31 March 2013 00:08, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

Your approach is certainly much more elegant than what I tried. The Raynox
on the 06 telephoto zoom retains the compactness of the overall Q kit. Do
you have any sample images taken through the Raynox? I had initially
considered this approach but was concerned about the Q's AF and the 06 zoom
- it was pretty slow without a closeup diopter and I worried it it would be
too slow with one. I tested the Q and 0y with a reverse mounted 50mm and had
major problems getting AF to work, but when it did the results were great.
The v 1.11 firmware seems to address the AF issue with the original Q and
the 06 telephoto - it is quite fast even in dim light - so the Raynox is
looking appealing. Your flash diffuser is a great idea as well! A Q sized
P-TTL flash would also be great.

The Bolt Ring Light and M 50mm macro has potential, but clearly not for
flying insects. I am also looking forward to using the Bolt on the K-5 for
general macro shooting, more int he area of fill light than anything else.

- Mark




On 3/30/2013 3:04 PM, Toine wrote:

Funny effect on the wings.
Pentax has a telephoto macro on the lens road map. For now I'm happy
with the raynox 250 in front of the 06 zoom. The internal flash works
with this setup (no shadow from the lens). I build a flash diffuser.

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/248-q-macro

Tried the AF200FG with a diffusor on the Q. It's better but heavy
compared to the camera/lens. maybe a flash bracket helps but it all
adds volume. Let's hope Pentax designs a little PTTL flash for the Q
which works with the future macro lens.

Toine

On 29 March 2013 23:54, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

Yesterday I tested the nifty Q Macro outfit I had cobbled together on
some
bees and found a surprising new wrinkle - rolling shutter distortion! I
put
my earlier comments (posted here on the list) and the latest developments
into a blog post that you can find here:

http://markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/more-pentax-q-macro-experiments-1

I guess I still have some work to do...

Mark

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OT - Odd Photoshop Behavior

2013-03-31 Thread Mark C
Something annoying that just starting in Photoshop CS5 recently: If I 
have a tool selected via the tool bar and then use a shortcut key to 
select another tool the tool changes for a second or two and then 
reverts back to the original one. The new tool is never functional.


For example, if I select the crop tool from the tool bar it comes up 
just fine. But if I then hit the J key for the healing brush the healing 
brush appears for a second or two, but then the crop tool reappears. It 
happens with every combination of tools I try - so if I had selected the 
healing brush from the tool bar and hit C to crop, I've get the crop 
tool for a second or so then it would revert to the healing brush. Net 
effect if that keyboard shortcuts don't work.


Any PS guru out there know if this is some sort of setting that is 
amiss, or is something else going on?


Thanks

Mark

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PESO - Giant Handlebars

2013-03-31 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I am now in a walking cast (one of those plastic air casts) and although I 
still need crutches for longer walks outside the house it's nice to be able to 
hobble about indoors with free hands. 

This was taken a week ago when I was still in the non-walking cast and falls in 
the category things that won't move as I photograph them.

Despite the title these are normal sized handlebars; Giant is the brand of bike.

Sometimes I need to shoot a sharp one just to prove that I can:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/giant-handlebars.html?m=1

;-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and 
spontaneity. -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Re: OT: Google Nose

2013-03-31 Thread George Sinos
Smells April (1st) Fresh to me. gs
George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Google has a habit of putting out products that don't last long. I don't
 think this one will last longer than a day:
 https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/


 Yikes!

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Re: PESO - Giant Handlebars

2013-03-31 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice image, Frank.

Good to hear that you are doing better.


Dan
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:29 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am now in a walking cast (one of those plastic air casts) and although I 
 still need crutches for longer walks outside the house it's nice to be able 
 to hobble about indoors with free hands.

 This was taken a week ago when I was still in the non-walking cast and falls 
 in the category things that won't move as I photograph them.

 Despite the title these are normal sized handlebars; Giant is the brand of 
 bike.

 Sometimes I need to shoot a sharp one just to prove that I can:

  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/giant-handlebars.html?m=1

 ;-)

 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

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Re: OT: Google Nose

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
Ah, yes, I always forget about April 1st!  Cheers, Christine




On Mar 31, 2013, at 9:31 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Smells April (1st) Fresh to me. gs
 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 Google has a habit of putting out products that don't last long. I don't
 think this one will last longer than a day:
 https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/
 
 
 Yikes!
 
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Re: Feb and March favorites

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
The Hawks are nice, Larry!  Cheers, Christine



On Mar 31, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 
 On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Mark C wrote:
 
 The hawk is nice and the camera operator is excellent. The IR dance scenes 
 don't work for me -
 
 I can understand that.  It is definitely a specialized technique and not one 
 that is going to appeal to everyone.  
 
 
 I instantly hear the Cramps doing Zombie Dance in my head. Which isn't all 
 bad...
 
 I think that I can figure out where you get that connection.
 
 :-)
 
 
 Mark
 
 On 3/31/2013 5:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I haven't been taking many photos these days, only 7 keepers between 
 february and march:
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632693742754/
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157632916862667/
 
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PESO - Three Muses

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
At the Louvre, Paris:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094513size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

I loved the light in those galleries.

Comments appreciated!

Rick




 
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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Womer
I'm impressed at how shallow your DOF was at those apertures with the small 
sensor of the Q.

Rick


 
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From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
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Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Some close up tests with the Q

Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:

 Those are impressive!
 
 What were the exposures?


Thanks, Rick.

The exposures were embarrassing

All at ISO 400

The top one: f4-5 at 1/500 sec
The second: f4.5 at 1/640 sec
The third: f5 at 1/1250 sec

Given that the camera was tripod mounted, I should have stopped down a lot more.


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



 
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 8:14 AM
 Subject: Some close up tests with the Q
 
 G'day all
 
 Looking at Mark's post about his macro tests with the Q made me realise that 
 I needed to get off my backside and take some photos with my Q.
 
 My needs are more modest than Mark's - I'm more into close-up than true macro 
 - so, rummaging around in my bits and pieces drawer I came across a Canon 
 Close-Up Lens 450.nbsp; I'm not sure where it came from but may have been 
 attached to an old Canonflex SLR I bought some years ago (that's certainly 
 the only Canon I've ever owned).
 
 The close up lens is 58mm diameter and fortunately I had enough step -up 
 rings between 40.5mm and 58mm to be able to mount it on the front of the 06 
 zoom (5 step-up rings in total).
 
 Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.
 
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html
 
 The first two photos are without the close up lens attached, just to see how 
 the 06 zoom preformed on its own.nbsp; The third photo is with the close up 
 lens attached and as close as I could get to the plant while still being able 
 to autofocus.
 
 Unfortunately, I was so concentrated on focusing distance that I totally 
 forgot about depth of field, so these are all with the lens pretty much wide 
 open.nbsp; But, all told, I'm pretty happy with the result and the close up 
 lens will become part of my 'Q Kit'.
 
 



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Tri-State camera, worthwhile? or trouble?

2013-03-31 Thread Larry Colen
I finally have the money to buy a replacement for my AF540, and found the Metz 
58-AF2 at BH, Adorama and Tri-State for $344.

BH is out of stock, and closed for Pesach.
Adorama seems to have it in stock and is closed for Pesach.
Tri-State seems to have it in stock, and doesn't seem to be closed for pesach.  
This means that if I order it with three day shipping I can get it this week 
rather than next week.

My impression is that Tri-State, while not quite as reputable as the other two, 
is still pretty good, but I wanted to check with you folks before making the 
purchase.


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Re: Ot: plaintext (was Re: iPing (was WinPing

2013-03-31 Thread steve harley

on 2013-03-31 15:32 Bob W wrote

So it looks as though the iPad mail client composes in not plain text, but 
replies in it. Any one know if it can be changed to compose in plain text?


Mail on my iPad composes new messages in plain text:

  Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
  X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329)

i don't see a setting to change that - could it be using rich text because of a 
signature you've added?


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Re: Tri-State camera, worthwhile? or trouble?

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would wait and buy from BH. You can count on them to be honest and stand 
behind the product. A lot of the New York camera stores are corrupt. I'm not 
familiar with Tri-State, but I wouldn't experiment.

Paul
On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I finally have the money to buy a replacement for my AF540, and found the 
 Metz 58-AF2 at BH, Adorama and Tri-State for $344.
 
 BH is out of stock, and closed for Pesach.
 Adorama seems to have it in stock and is closed for Pesach.
 Tri-State seems to have it in stock, and doesn't seem to be closed for 
 pesach.  This means that if I order it with three day shipping I can get it 
 this week rather than next week.
 
 My impression is that Tri-State, while not quite as reputable as the other 
 two, is still pretty good, but I wanted to check with you folks before making 
 the purchase.
 
 
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Re: Is there a decimal point misplaced here?

2013-03-31 Thread Bill

On 31/03/2013 3:52 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
..or are these things a lot more rare than it appears (dubious - given 
that the seller has 10 sets available):


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pentax-Auto-Extension-Tube-Set-K-/230955650656?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessorieshash=item35c6078e60ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:AU:101 



(at least the postage is reasonable)




Either that or the Aussie dollar just devalued to toilet paper.

bill

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Re: PAW 2013 catch up

2013-03-31 Thread Stan Halpin
I am glad you gave us another ration of your photos. Of the four new ones, I 
particularly like #4, the patriotic dumpster. The subject is just so wrong in 
so many ways IMHO, and your presentation/composition just gets out of the way 
and lets the subject speak for itself. Wonderful. Even if it likely wouldn't 
have made it onto the Saturday Evening Post cover.

stan

On Mar 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 
 Hi All:
 
 I did shoot some frames, but couldn't get any gumption to post to the 
 gallery.  The first 4 photos are the new ones.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/
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Re: OT - Odd Photoshop Behavior

2013-03-31 Thread Bill

On 31/03/2013 8:07 PM, Mark C wrote:
Something annoying that just starting in Photoshop CS5 recently: If I 
have a tool selected via the tool bar and then use a shortcut key to 
select another tool the tool changes for a second or two and then 
reverts back to the original one. The new tool is never functional.


For example, if I select the crop tool from the tool bar it comes up 
just fine. But if I then hit the J key for the healing brush the 
healing brush appears for a second or two, but then the crop tool 
reappears. It happens with every combination of tools I try - so if I 
had selected the healing brush from the tool bar and hit C to crop, 
I've get the crop tool for a second or so then it would revert to the 
healing brush. Net effect if that keyboard shortcuts don't work.


Any PS guru out there know if this is some sort of setting that is 
amiss, or is something else going on?


Thanks

Mark

Believe it or not, any time I've had Photoshop misbehave, a cold reboot 
has been the answer. If you've tried that, sorry, I'm clueless as usual.


bill

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Re: OT: Google Nose

2013-03-31 Thread Bill

On 31/03/2013 5:18 PM, Bob W wrote:

Google has a habit of putting out products that don't last long. I don't
think this one will last longer than a day:
https://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/nose/

B



It must be April 1st somewhere.

bill

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Grandfather Mountain

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms

I'm in. This year I actually managed to register on-line.

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RE: OT - Odd Photoshop Behavior

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark C

Something annoying that just starting in Photoshop CS5 recently: If I
have a tool selected via the tool bar and then use a shortcut key to
select another tool the tool changes for a second or two and then
reverts back to the original one. The new tool is never functional.

For example, if I select the crop tool from the tool bar it comes up
just fine. But if I then hit the J key for the healing brush the healing
brush appears for a second or two, but then the crop tool reappears. It
happens with every combination of tools I try - so if I had selected the
healing brush from the tool bar and hit C to crop, I've get the crop
tool for a second or so then it would revert to the healing brush. Net
effect if that keyboard shortcuts don't work.

Any PS guru out there know if this is some sort of setting that is
amiss, or is something else going on?

Thanks

Mark


I am by no means a guru, but every time I've had PhotoShop start doing 
peculiar stuff, I had my caps lock key on. That's the only thing I can 
think of.


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RE: Tri-State camera, worthwhile? or trouble?

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

I finally have the money to buy a replacement for my AF540, and found
the Metz 58-AF2 at BH, Adorama and Tri-State for $344.

BH is out of stock, and closed for Pesach. Adorama seems to have it
in stock and is closed for Pesach. Tri-State seems to have it in
stock, and doesn't seem to be closed for pesach.  This means that if
I order it with three day shipping I can get it this week rather than
next week.

My impression is that Tri-State, while not quite as reputable as the
other two, is still pretty good, but I wanted to check with you folks
before making the purchase.


Their on-line reputation with the seller review sites seem to be mixed.
They have too many reviews indicating they are not quite forthcoming
about whether items are truly in stock or not.

I was going to recommend Midwest Photo Exchange as a possible
alternative. I've dealt with them before  they're reliable, but they
don't appear to carry the Metz brand.

I'd stick with BH or Adorama.

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Re: PESO: Bellbird

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
My wife said he looks angry too.  Maybe he doesn't like having his photo taken. 
 They're not aggressive at all; they eat nectar so I don't think human flesh 
would be on their menu.

He came back this morning while I was having breakfast but I only caught a 
glimpse before he flew off.  They're one of those birds that's often heard and 
rarely seen.

Cheers,
Dave

On Apr 1, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

 That looks like one angry bird. Nice capture!
 
 Mark
 
 On 3/31/2013 1:35 AM, David Mann wrote:
 I was very lucky today.  A bellbird came to visit our garden.  I see one 
 here maybe once or twice a year.  They tend to hang out closer to the hills, 
 about 2km away.  They're quite skittish and I've had the AF motor of my 
 camera scare one off before.  Today I kept my distance and managed to get a 
 photo.
 
 http://www.multi.net.nz/bellbird/
 
 This is a fairly heavy crop.  It's also had some Shadow / Highlight 
 treatment to bring out his plumage.  It's a touch noisy as I shot at 800ISO 
 due to poor light.
 
 K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
On Apr 1, 2013, at 4:56 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Meanwhile, at Microsoft ...
 
 http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6855756_700b.jpg

Is that why Office is so expensive?

Cheers,
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Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Maybe in time, with Sir Jony taking over, the apps will change.

I seem to remember him saying that he hates the skeuomorphism so that would 
indicate the next major OS revision should result in an improvement.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: Some close up tests with the Q

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Here's a very quick experiment using my favourite plant as a subject.
 
 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PentaxQ/pentaxQ.html

Nice photos.  They look like the flowers our bellbird came to dine on, although 
ours are coloured differently.

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Re: Is there a decimal point misplaced here?

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 ..or are these things a lot more rare than it appears (dubious - given that 
 the seller has 10 sets available):
 
 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pentax-Auto-Extension-Tube-Set-K-/230955650656?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessorieshash=item35c6078e60ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:AU:101

Gee I wish I'd got that for my 6x7 extension tube set!

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