Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
Our public schools have, for the most part, failed miserably at great cost. Voucher systems done correctly spend the same amount per pupil, and more of the money goes to education rather than support of an educational bureaucracy. I spent ten years in public schools that were overweight with administration and tolerated any and all kind of ineptitude. Competition is necessary. And it's here. We now have a fledgling network of charter schools in most states, and things are looking up. The only ones who are unhappy are the teacher unions, the fat cats who run them, and the pols who depend on them for votes. On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Competition for public schools? You can't operate a public school system on a business model. If businesses don't work out, they can just go out of business, shut down. Public schools don't exactly have that luxury. Voucher systems suck money away from public schools, making it even harder for them to do the job we (and students!) need them to do. In essence it is a subsidy for private schools and to families who are already well off. This insidious process is disguised and whitewashed by using terms like freedom of choice when in fact rich people always have the choice of where to send their kids while vouchers take away the choice of impoverished students to have a quality education. Want to help public education? This is not the way to do it. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. Wisconsin is one of only a few states that allow vouchers to be used in religious schools. The Wisconsin Supreme Court okayed that in 1998, but it's expected that the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually rule on it. I suspect they will affirm the state court's decision, in that federal student loans have always been available at religiously affiliated universities. That doesn't make those universities public schools. Apples and oranges...vouchers are paid directly to the school as state aid with no requirement for any reimbursement - a gift from the taxpayers. Student loans are just that...loans that the student can use for tuition as well as other educational items and that come with a payback obligation on the part of the student. In regard to traditional public schools being better than or equal to charter schools that's largely a myth perpetrated by teacher unions -- of which I was once a member. In Detroit, the charter schools and religious schools far outperform the public schools. Nationally, the margin is thinner, but overall, the charter schools have an edge. That's not to say that there aren't bad charters. There are. But the competition of the marketplace eventually weeds them out. Public schools don't have to compete. That's part of the problem. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on your definition of a Public School. If it's a school offered/run by a public entity, then I'd agree that thy are non-denominational. However, the big push in Wisconsin by both a Republican governor and a Republican legislature is for so-called voucher schools whereby private and religious schools are partially funded by taxpayer money. The argument for that is they provide a better education than the public schools. Unfortunately, the research shows that they don't perform any better and in some cases don't provide as good an education. I don't know if that meets the definition of separation of church and state, but it sure as hell is not non-denominational. -p On 4/6/2013 6:32 PM, Paul
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
In other words, you have plenty of people competing to provide education. And it works well for you. Paul On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: We have private schools, public schools, grant-maintained schools, state-funded religious schools, privately-funded religious schools, city academies, 6th-form colleges, private tutors, community colleges, reform schools, schools of art, technical schools, schools of dolphins, seminaries, madrassas and football academies. They are run by boards of governors, bursars, parent-teacher associations, local authorities, central government, the Football Association, Opus Dei, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rabbi Lionel Blue, Tony Blair's creationist chums, and Abu Hamza. There are four national curricula. External examinations are set by the Joint Matriculation Board, Oxford University, Cambridge University, McDonalds university, AQA, OCR, CIE, edexcel, CCEA, Lord David Beckham VC, ICAAE, WJEC and Sue Perkins. Internal examinations are conducted by the Catholic priesthood, and Sir James Savile (deceased). The examination boards are themselves examined by OFWAT, Ofsted, Father Ted, and half a kilo of kumquats. Each of these is overseen by the Secretary of State for education, who in turn is responsible to the Bullingdon Club, who answer to no-one. It's no wonder we're all so feckin' intelligent. Dr. Prof. Bob, MA, D. Phil., STD, Milk Marketing board (Hon.) On 7 Apr 2013, at 17:18, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: What the British I guess India call Public Schools are what we in the U.S. call private schools. I'm not sure what they call actual public schools, except they call the kind of private schools we call Charter Schools free schools. From: Paul Stenquist All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bad Ass
On 7/4/13, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: From the Roller Derby last night: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/mnrg_championship/content/ K5__6499_large.html Now yer cookin! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On 7/4/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Dr. Prof. Bob, MA, D. Phil., STD, Milk Marketing board (Hon.) I'm reporting you to OFTWAT. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Bad Ass
From: Charles Robinson From the Roller Derby last night: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/mnrg_championship/content/K5__6499_large.html -Charles That's a matter of opinion. I'd rate it higher. Up there with Quite Nice! in fact. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested
The sick minds are there already, and they have their internet sites too. Many of them are closed but I know a couple of them and they do support and recommend criminal acts, even as far as murder. The reason for discussing weird and dangerous ideas in the open is that if they are left to themselves the ideas seam to be normal in their areas. Offering resistance to the ideas is a way to reduce the recruiting and making it clear that they are known, the ideas are discussed and that the majority does not agree with them, even though they may feel that they are within their small communities. Dag Thrane http://www.thrane.name 5. apr. 2013 kl. 23:59 skrev Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: DagT, This plants the idea in immature and sick minds that killing is OK. 'Look, they are recommending it on the internet.' Or in 'Call to Duty' video games. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:43 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: And also, the once who initially is censored will increase the volume until they get attention, like children. That was also one of the reasons our madman used after killing a lot of children. He felt that he was censored and not allowed to speak his opinion. I think it is better to let them be discussed in the open. Most people will not be mislead by their opinions, and if they did the society as a whole has a major problem anyway. DagT 5. apr. 2013 kl. 22:54 skrev David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com: I disagree. When you censor people, it tends to lend credence to their paranoia about the institutions that they distrust. And when the government feels that it's okay to censor one group, they'll eventually feel that it's okay to censor any group. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: No Dave. Censoring opinions that promote killing people is a good idea. I'd rather keep access to guns and censor killing promotion. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Because that leads to censorship. Censoring opinions that we don't like is fascist. Our society very much needs to tolerate the things that we don't want to hear. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: John, I'm with Stan. Why don't we make the world a more civil place? No more publishing threats to harm others. It's a sickness our society no longer needs to tolerate. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: In the U.S. this would be protected by the 1st Amendment. Calling her photo a threat is HORSE CRAP! From: Stan Halpin As I read it, the problem is not that she took a picture. The problem is that she posted it on a public forum. Think about it. Making physical threats against the U.S. President is going to attract the attention of the Secret Service, making threats against others is arguably an offense as well. So, say some makes a serious threat, you then copy and/or photograph that threat and post it. I don't see how your lack of originality makes you any less culpable. stan On Apr 5, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm not sure about Canada, but I would love to get arrested for photographing something in the U.S. The judgment I would eventually receive for false arrest would make the proposition quite profitable. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: You may want to think what photos you post: http://hyperallergic.com/68151/artist-arrested-for-instagramming-street-art/ Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rant , with apologies in advance
If they'd just woke me up while the guy was still there, I could have called the police got a police report. But after the neighbor made sure the old man and his vehicle got home before anyone decided to tell me about it, I've got no evidence. I know there's an old man who drives up and down my street on an unlicensed vehicle, and the neighbor says that's who hit my car. I don't even know the man's name or where he lives. All I have is the neighbor's word that he knows who the man is from his church he's going to get the man's caregivers to pay for the repair. Haven't heard anything from the man's caregivers. I've got nothing a court would accept as proof of his liability. I'm trying not to be angry about this so the anger won't make me sick, but it really irritates me. From: Bob Sullivan John, Maybe it's time for the local sheriff to get involved. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Got nowhere else to vent. Someone hit my car yesterday morning - smashed the driver's side brake-light busted off the driver's side mirror. Left a couple of gouges in the rear fender. I know who it was, an old man driving an UN-liscensed John Deere Gator. I've seen him driving it on my street before. One of my neighbors helped him get his vehicle untangled from mine and then shepherded him back to his home. Later, another of my neighbors came over knocked on my door to wake me up and tell me my car had been hit. No police report, no license information, no insurance. Don't know if he'd been drinking or not. Got no way to find out now. The neighbor who shepherded him home says he goes to the same church will get the people who take care of him to pay for repairing the damage. I ain't holding my breath. Assholes! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW170 - Ice
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Wanted: large format inkjet printer (black only)
Just thought I'd throw this out there. I'm in the market for a large format inkjet printer. I don't care if a color is plugged, but I do require monochrome (black) ink to work correctly. Drop me a line. (Min. 13 wide) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rant , with apologies in advance
John, You do it so the police can talk to the neighbor who told you and have a record of the guy being in need of care. Perhaps they would even pay him a visit asking some questions. ...Maybe even enough to scare him or the care givers. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: If they'd just woke me up while the guy was still there, I could have called the police got a police report. But after the neighbor made sure the old man and his vehicle got home before anyone decided to tell me about it, I've got no evidence. I know there's an old man who drives up and down my street on an unlicensed vehicle, and the neighbor says that's who hit my car. I don't even know the man's name or where he lives. All I have is the neighbor's word that he knows who the man is from his church he's going to get the man's caregivers to pay for the repair. Haven't heard anything from the man's caregivers. I've got nothing a court would accept as proof of his liability. I'm trying not to be angry about this so the anger won't make me sick, but it really irritates me. From: Bob Sullivan John, Maybe it's time for the local sheriff to get involved. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Got nowhere else to vent. Someone hit my car yesterday morning - smashed the driver's side brake-light busted off the driver's side mirror. Left a couple of gouges in the rear fender. I know who it was, an old man driving an UN-liscensed John Deere Gator. I've seen him driving it on my street before. One of my neighbors helped him get his vehicle untangled from mine and then shepherded him back to his home. Later, another of my neighbors came over knocked on my door to wake me up and tell me my car had been hit. No police report, no license information, no insurance. Don't know if he'd been drinking or not. Got no way to find out now. The neighbor who shepherded him home says he goes to the same church will get the people who take care of him to pay for repairing the damage. I ain't holding my breath. Assholes! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On 7 Apr 2013, at 21:41, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 7/4/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Dr. Prof. Bob, MA, D. Phil., STD, Milk Marketing board (Hon.) I'm reporting you to OFTWAT. Cameron abolished it. Self defence. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
From: Bob W We have private schools, public schools, grant-maintained schools, state-funded religious schools, privately-funded religious schools, city academies, 6th-form colleges, private tutors, community colleges, reform schools, schools of art, technical schools, schools of dolphins, seminaries, madrassas and football academies. Which of the schools on that list would be the equivalent of U.S. public schools? Here in the U.S., local governments - city, town, county, ... - pay for (theoretically) free, tax supported, public schools for ALL children. The main tax funding for these schools comes from the state, but local jurisdiction taxes supplement this and the state money is to the local jurisdiction based on a per pupil basis. The local school system has most of the control over how the money is divided between salaries, supplies and physical plant, although the state can mandate the local system must pay for certain programs (usually because some court has ruled the state must provide the service of that program). Attendance by school age children is compulsory, although there are exceptions allowing for private schooling, be it church run academies, home schools, or Montessori, etc. School age is from Kindergarten (age 5) until you graduate from high school (grade 12) or reach your 16th birthday. Generally private schools are not eligible for taxpayer funding, except that North Carolina provides funds for Pre-K education of 4 year olds. Many of those early childhood education programs are hosted by private institutions, including churches. Some other states have other exceptions. I think New York state funds school lunches at religious schools. They are run by boards of governors, bursars, parent-teacher associations, local authorities, central government, the Football Association, Opus Dei, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rabbi Lionel Blue, Tony Blair's creationist chums, and Abu Hamza. There are four national curricula. External examinations are set by the Joint Matriculation Board, Oxford University, Cambridge University, McDonalds university, AQA, OCR, CIE, edexcel, CCEA, Lord David Beckham VC, ICAAE, WJEC and Sue Perkins. Internal examinations are conducted by the Catholic priesthood, and Sir James Savile (deceased). The examination boards are themselves examined by OFWAT, Ofsted, Father Ted, and half a kilo of kumquats. Each of these is overseen by the Secretary of State for education, who in turn is responsible to the Bullingdon Club, who answer to no-one. It's no wonder we're all so feckin' intelligent. Dr. Prof. Bob, MA, D. Phil., STD, Milk Marketing board (Hon.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW170 - Ice
Interesting. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:14 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm@43mm f/3.5, 1/80s, ISO100 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested
You're absolutely right, John. For Freedom of Speech to have any meaning, offensive speech must be protected, too. Abhorrent opinions must be protected. Because I don't want some beaurocrat, politician or judge drawing the line. The photo may have made us feel uneasy and no one here advocates murder, but that young lady, no matter her personal history, was not advocating it, simply portraying the message of another. What, someone is suddenly going to go shoot a cop and say, Well, I wasn't going to, but I saw this photo... Let's be real. She was arrested because cops don't like her. The arrest was wrong and she will almost certainly beat the charges. At least, she should... Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 6, 2013 4/6/13 To: pdml@pdml.net You've already gone over the precipice on your slippery slope, justifying suppression of her right to free speech because she's part of some cop hating group or something. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested
FYI: The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (which forms part of our Constitution), section 2(b): 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 6, 2013 4/6/13 snip I also note this happened in Canada where they don't have 1st Amendment rights. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested
Yeah, not saying Canadians don't have rights, just heading off any objection that I'm trying to apply the U.S. Constitution to a story about something that happened in Canada. From: knarftheriault FYI: The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (which forms part of our Constitution), section 2(b): 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 6, 2013 4/6/13 snip I also note this happened in Canada where they don't have 1st Amendment rights. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5 and high-speed cards
Uphill in both directions! - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: Re: K5 and high-speed cards 20 MB/sec! Kids these days... in my day we had to hand-carry each individual byte and fit it carefully into place. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:22 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: From what I have been reading, the K-5 writes at 20MB/s, so anything faster is basically wasted on the camera. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: I picked up a couple of Sandisk SDHC 16GB Ultra cards which are rated as Class 10 and 30MB/sec I already have a Sandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme card which is rated Class 10 and 30MB/sec What's the difference? Each of 'em let me get about 28 shots in 10 seconds (REALLY slows down when the buffer is full) so I'm not clear what the distinction between Extreme and Ultra is. Maybe there is none. Lastly: Is the K5 able to take advantage of anything faster? My thought is... nope. But I'm just curious. I have a press pass to shoot Roller Derby tonight and faster is better for this sport -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Spring Visitors
Nice. I particularly like 1, 2, and 21. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: GESO: Spring Visitors I've been sidetracked from finishing up my Caribbean photos by some lovely birds arriving from the south. Here are three of the more colorful . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p764918074 Enjoy! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hello!
And doing our twaxes. Rick - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Hello! Be vewy vewy quiet, we're hunting wabbits. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Why so quiet? J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
Seems like here in the U.S. there's been an all out war waged on free, tax-payer supported public schools going back almost 60 years (if not longer). The schools are losing the war. Started on or about May 18, 1954. From: knarftheriault Competition for public schools? You can't operate a public school system on a business model. If businesses don't work out, they can just go out of business, shut down. Public schools don't exactly have that luxury. Voucher systems suck money away from public schools, making it even harder for them to do the job we (and students!) need them to do. In essence it is a subsidy for private schools and to families who are already well off. This insidious process is disguised and whitewashed by using terms like freedom of choice when in fact rich people always have the choice of where to send their kids while vouchers take away the choice of impoverished students to have a quality education. Want to help public education? This is not the way to do it. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. Wisconsin is one of only a few states that allow vouchers to be used in religious schools. The Wisconsin Supreme Court okayed that in 1998, but it's expected that the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually rule on it. I suspect they will affirm the state court's decision, in that federal student loans have always been available at religiously affiliated universities. That doesn't make those universities public schools. Apples and oranges...vouchers are paid directly to the school as state aid with no requirement for any reimbursement - a gift from the taxpayers. Student loans are just that...loans that the student can use for tuition as well as other educational items and that come with a payback obligation on the part of the student. In regard to traditional public schools being better than or equal to charter schools that's largely a myth perpetrated by teacher unions -- of which I was once a member. In Detroit, the charter schools and religious schools far outperform the public schools. Nationally, the margin is thinner, but overall, the charter schools have an edge. That's not to say that there aren't bad charters. There are. But the competition of the marketplace eventually weeds them out. Public schools don't have to compete. That's part of the problem. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on your definition of a Public School. If it's a school offered/run by a public entity, then I'd agree that thy are non-denominational. However, the big push in Wisconsin by both a Republican governor and a Republican legislature is for so-called voucher schools whereby private and religious schools are partially funded by taxpayer money. The argument for that is they provide a better education than the public schools. Unfortunately, the research shows that they don't perform any better and in some cases don't provide as good an education. I don't know if that meets the definition of separation of church and state, but it sure as hell is not non-denominational. -p On 4/6/2013 6:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've never seen a United States public school that has religious affiliation. I would think it would be unconstitutional. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone Except in parts of the South and Midwest. stan On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into
Re: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made
Not found. Sigh. http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: Mail List Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made The thing I find most impressive is the 1945 iPad at 1:13. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=USHsFv8nNSAdesktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUSHsFv8nNSA B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made
Thanks, Cotty! http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 6:59 AM Subject: Re: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made On 5/4/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: The thing I find most impressive is the 1945 iPad at 1:13. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=USHsFv8nNSAdesktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv %3DUSHsFv8nNSA Bob's playing on his new iPad ;-) This link will work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHsFv8nNSA -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) | Web Video Producion -- www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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so how do you really feel? ann On 4/7/2013 12:40, Steve Cottrell wrote: I hate (in no particular order) banks Marmite really overcast cold days when I have to be out working banks stubbing the big toe on my left foot ageing drivers who cut me up on roundabouts through ignorance electric shocks from our cat slow 3G and banks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Old Rennes and New
Some of the new Rennes is in the background: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17110053size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) I like the way the 15th century buildings house 21st century shops and their signs. Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Spring Visitors
Thanks Rick. Haven't seen the wood duck (#1) on the water again since that first afternoon. The hawk (#21) was yesterday's catch. We also had a piliated woodpecker pass through the yard yesterday but he didn't stick around, I guess he didn't realize that he had a portrait session scheduled. stan On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Nice. I particularly like 1, 2, and 21. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: GESO: Spring Visitors I've been sidetracked from finishing up my Caribbean photos by some lovely birds arriving from the south. Here are three of the more colorful . . . http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p764918074 Enjoy! stan -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K5-IIs locks up - did the recent firmware updates fix it?
It was the first time since I bought k5-IIs that the battery ran out of juice. The camera was in the video mode, and got locked up in that mode. Turning it off did not switch it off. The only way I could switch it off was by removing the battery. It happened twice (with two different batteries). It looks like this bug has not been fixed in the II from the original K5. :-( I am on the original firmware. Does anybody know if the recent updates fixed this problem? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo Workshop (Was Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested)
Speaking of education, (trying to segue back closer to on-topic), I and 200± others spent the day sitting in very uncomfortable chairs in a poorly ventilated room, drinking conference-hotel coffee while listening to a series of presentations on how to do nature photography. I really hate conference hotel chairs, coffee, sound systems, ventilation, etc.,(as well as my hatred for drivers who don't understand roundabouts, a feeling I know I share with Dave and Cotty) but despite that it was time well spent and I came away with some food for thought. Also frustration. I would really like to play with a tilt-shift lens, I would like to have auto-coupled extension tubes, and I would like AF1.4 and 2.0 tele-extenders of a quality consistent with my lenses. Given that I am not going to switch to a different system, I can't do much about any of those items. But I can revisit the functionality I do have available such as rear-button focusing, use of LV as a focusing aid, more attention to histograms in setting exposure, etc. Even if, like me, you already know everything, you may well find it worthwhile to spend a day listening to an accomplished craftsman talk about his way of doing things. stan On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:02 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're absolutely right, John. For Freedom of Speech to have any meaning, offensive speech must be protected, too. Abhorrent opinions must be protected. Because I don't want some beaurocrat, politician or judge drawing the line. The photo may have made us feel uneasy and no one here advocates murder, but that young lady, no matter her personal history, was not advocating it, simply portraying the message of another. What, someone is suddenly going to go shoot a cop and say, Well, I wasn't going to, but I saw this photo... Let's be real. She was arrested because cops don't like her. The arrest was wrong and she will almost certainly beat the charges. At least, she should... Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 6, 2013 4/6/13 To: pdml@pdml.net You've already gone over the precipice on your slippery slope, justifying suppression of her right to free speech because she's part of some cop hating group or something. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made
Real bikes made by real people. Cool music, too! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: April 5, 2013 4/5/13 To: Mail List Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made The thing I find most impressive is the 1945 iPad at 1:13. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=USHsFv8nNSAdesktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUSHsFv8nNSA B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5-IIs locks up - did the recent firmware updates fix it?
I think I have the most recent firmware installed in my K-5II (i.e., ver 1.03). During my Caribbean trip, I had 2-3 occasions when the camera froze while On (in normal photo mode, not video). Would not turn off. Took out battery, waited 5-10 seconds, re-installed battery and just continued on where I left off. IIRC, it was always with my 35/2.8 macro lens, but since I used that lens for a high proportion of my shots, I can't be sure whether the fault was in the body or in the body-lens pairing. stan On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: It was the first time since I bought k5-IIs that the battery ran out of juice. The camera was in the video mode, and got locked up in that mode. Turning it off did not switch it off. The only way I could switch it off was by removing the battery. It happened twice (with two different batteries). It looks like this bug has not been fixed in the II from the original K5. :-( I am on the original firmware. Does anybody know if the recent updates fixed this problem? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old Rennes and New
Rick Womer wrote: Some of the new Rennes is in the background: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17110053size=lg Ah, I love France! That street scene reminds me of Tours: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/loire_30.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Old Rennes and New
I like this one. Very nicely composed, interesting architecture, the pedestrians are well-placed. Overall a terrific street photo! Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Old Rennes and New Some of the new Rennes is in the background: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17110053size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) I like the way the 15th century buildings house 21st century shops and their signs. Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Breakfast of Champions (messenger content)
Not exactly Wheaties: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/breakfast-of-champions.html?m=1 ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome (but honesty not expected on this one). :-P cheers, frank For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and spontaneity. -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hello!
Did mine yesterday. Oh what a relief it is... Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hello! And doing our twaxes. Rick - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Hello! Be vewy vewy quiet, we're hunting wabbits. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Why so quiet? J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
pentax on TV
ON Mad Men tonight: A guy in an elevator talking to Don Draper: What's that camera you're selling, Pentax? No, it's Leica, answers Draper. I've got a closet full of them. Come by. I'll give you one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo Workshop (Was Re: Posting photos of street art can get you arrested)
On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Even if, like me, you already know everything, you may well find it worthwhile to spend a day listening to an accomplished craftsman talk about his way of doing things. Mark! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K5-IIs locks up - did the recent firmware updates fix it?
when in doubt, yank battery out! That always works, if it doesn't something is seriously wrong... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor Roshchin Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:02 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: K5-IIs locks up - did the recent firmware updates fix it? It was the first time since I bought k5-IIs that the battery ran out of juice. The camera was in the video mode, and got locked up in that mode. Turning it off did not switch it off. The only way I could switch it off was by removing the battery. It happened twice (with two different batteries). It looks like this bug has not been fixed in the II from the original K5. :-( I am on the original firmware. Does anybody know if the recent updates fixed this problem? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made
It's some kind of mobile YouTube app for iPads. I had to just search YouTube for How a Bicycle Is Made (1945) to get it to play on my computer. From: Rick Womer Not found. Sigh. ? http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: Mail List Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made The thing I find most impressive is the 1945 iPad at 1:13. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=USHsFv8nNSAdesktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUSHsFv8nNSA B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5-IIs locks up - did the recent firmware updates fix it?
On Apr 7, 2013, at 18:44 , J.C. O'Connell wrote: when in doubt, yank battery out! That always works, if it doesn't something is seriously wrong... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - Isn't that what they tried to hammer into our noggins in the high school Social Health Classes? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made
Worked for me on my Android. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made It's some kind of mobile YouTube app for iPads. I had to just search YouTube for How a Bicycle Is Made (1945) to get it to play on my computer. From: Rick Womer Not found. Sigh. ? http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: Mail List Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: OT: How A Bicycle Is Made The thing I find most impressive is the 1945 iPad at 1:13. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=USHsFv8nNSAdesktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUSHsFv8nNSA B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old Rennes and New
BTW, why are you in Rennes? -T On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Some of the new Rennes is in the background: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17110053size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) I like the way the 15th century buildings house 21st century shops and their signs. Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Finally -- Spring!
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17131096 The Daffodils by William Wordsworth I wandered lonely as a cloud That floats on high o'er vales and hills, When all at once I saw a crowd, A host, of golden daffodils; Beside the lake, beneath the trees, Fluttering and dancing in the breeze. Continuous as the stars that shine And twinkle on the Milky Way, They stretched in never-ending line Along the margin of a bay: Ten thousand saw I at a glance, Tossing their heads in sprightly dance. The waves beside them danced, but they Out-did the sparkling waves in glee: A Poet could not but be gay, In such a jocund company: I gazed--and gazed--but little thought What wealth the show to me had brought: For oft, when on my couch I lie In vacant or in pensive mood, They flash upon that inward eye Which is the bliss of solitude; And then my heart with pleasure fills, And dances with the daffodils. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo Workshop (Was Re: Posting photos of street art can get youarrested)
Even if, like me, you already know everything, you may well find it worthwhile to spend a day listening to an accomplished craftsman talk about his way of doing things. About the only thing better is to work along side a pro in the field to see how he accomplishes his craft and to try to gain an insight into his ability to see subjects and compositions. Was this presentation put on by a group or an individual? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:08 PM Subject: Photo Workshop (Was Re: Posting photos of street art can get youarrested) Speaking of education, (trying to segue back closer to on-topic), I and 200± others spent the day sitting in very uncomfortable chairs in a poorly ventilated room, drinking conference-hotel coffee while listening to a series of presentations on how to do nature photography. I really hate conference hotel chairs, coffee, sound systems, ventilation, etc.,(as well as my hatred for drivers who don't understand roundabouts, a feeling I know I share with Dave and Cotty) but despite that it was time well spent and I came away with some food for thought. Also frustration. I would really like to play with a tilt-shift lens, I would like to have auto-coupled extension tubes, and I would like AF1.4 and 2.0 tele-extenders of a quality consistent with my lenses. Given that I am not going to switch to a different system, I can't do much about any of those items. But I can revisit the functionality I do have available such as rear-button focusing, use of LV as a focusing aid, more attention to histograms in setting exposure, etc. Even if, like me, you already know everything, you may well find it worthwhile to spend a day listening to an accomplished craftsman talk about his way of doing things. stan On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:02 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're absolutely right, John. For Freedom of Speech to have any meaning, offensive speech must be protected, too. Abhorrent opinions must be protected. Because I don't want some beaurocrat, politician or judge drawing the line. The photo may have made us feel uneasy and no one here advocates murder, but that young lady, no matter her personal history, was not advocating it, simply portraying the message of another. What, someone is suddenly going to go shoot a cop and say, Well, I wasn't going to, but I saw this photo... Let's be real. She was arrested because cops don't like her. The arrest was wrong and she will almost certainly beat the charges. At least, she should... Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 6, 2013 4/6/13 To: pdml@pdml.net You've already gone over the precipice on your slippery slope, justifying suppression of her right to free speech because she's part of some cop hating group or something. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo Workshop (Was Re: Posting photos of street art can get youarrested)
It was mostly done by John Gerlach - a series of four topic presentations, two in the morning, two in the afternoon. Barbara Gerlach assisted and then did the re-cap segment at the end. I'll be taking a week-long workshop with them in the UP in August - should be interesting. stan On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:07 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Even if, like me, you already know everything, you may well find it worthwhile to spend a day listening to an accomplished craftsman talk about his way of doing things. About the only thing better is to work along side a pro in the field to see how he accomplishes his craft and to try to gain an insight into his ability to see subjects and compositions. Was this presentation put on by a group or an individual? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:08 PM Subject: Photo Workshop (Was Re: Posting photos of street art can get youarrested) Speaking of education, (trying to segue back closer to on-topic), I and 200± others spent the day sitting in very uncomfortable chairs in a poorly ventilated room, drinking conference-hotel coffee while listening to a series of presentations on how to do nature photography. I really hate conference hotel chairs, coffee, sound systems, ventilation, etc.,(as well as my hatred for drivers who don't understand roundabouts, a feeling I know I share with Dave and Cotty) but despite that it was time well spent and I came away with some food for thought. Also frustration. I would really like to play with a tilt-shift lens, I would like to have auto-coupled extension tubes, and I would like AF1.4 and 2.0 tele-extenders of a quality consistent with my lenses. Given that I am not going to switch to a different system, I can't do much about any of those items. But I can revisit the functionality I do have available such as rear-button focusing, use of LV as a focusing aid, more attention to histograms in setting exposure, etc. Even if, like me, you already know everything, you may well find it worthwhile to spend a day listening to an accomplished craftsman talk about his way of doing things. stan On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:02 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're absolutely right, John. For Freedom of Speech to have any meaning, offensive speech must be protected, too. Abhorrent opinions must be protected. Because I don't want some beaurocrat, politician or judge drawing the line. The photo may have made us feel uneasy and no one here advocates murder, but that young lady, no matter her personal history, was not advocating it, simply portraying the message of another. What, someone is suddenly going to go shoot a cop and say, Well, I wasn't going to, but I saw this photo... Let's be real. She was arrested because cops don't like her. The arrest was wrong and she will almost certainly beat the charges. At least, she should... Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: April 6, 2013 4/6/13 To: pdml@pdml.net You've already gone over the precipice on your slippery slope, justifying suppression of her right to free speech because she's part of some cop hating group or something. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On Apr 5, 2013, at 10:28 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Hi John, Stan, Bob and many other good PDMLers, I agree with you folks that we should not publish, depict, post or spread hatred on a Public Network. I have lived in many parts of the world, including my native Bangalore India. In some places I find the Police very haughty, high handed, loud and with an intimidating body language / swagger. They hand cuff people for petty misdemeanors, even when they are not violent. Here in India or in Muscat, Oman and in Dubai, the UAE, I have never seen Police handcuffing people except in homicide cases or violent crimes. In fact I was surprised to find the Royal Oman Police very kind, helpful and humane. About two months ago the Santa Clara police very politely handcuffed me because someone thought that my camera was a gun. I have seen such street art on a paid photo walk in San Francisco. Worst still we found folks absolutely naked on the streets of San Francisco, Castro District I think, with the dingle-dangle and all in full public view. And there were children, women, tourists in the area. I must say I am confused by the moral social values in the Americas. And what harm was caused to anyone from seeing someone's dingle dangle? There are other places where it would be just as shocking for a woman to show her hair, or her face. Do what thou will, as it harms none. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
The pledge doesn't specify any one god. It can be mother nature for those who so believe. Or the god of secularism. We each take our pick. On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/04/2013 8:58 PM, David Parsons wrote: While I don't agree with the inclusion of 'under God' in the pledge of allegiance, I think it's an important thing to have to build a common sense of national unity. Depends on if your sense of national unity includes non Christians, doesn't it? I'm sure all the Chinese immigrants, East Indian immigrants, or Muslim immigrants to your country feel really included. You would do better to go back to flag worship. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. Wisconsin is one of only a few states that allow vouchers to be used in religious schools. The Wisconsin Supreme Court okayed that in 1998, but it's expected that the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually rule on it. I suspect they will affirm the state court's decision, in that federal student loans have always been available at religiously affiliated universities. That doesn't make those universities public schools. Apples and oranges...vouchers are paid directly to the school as state aid with no requirement for any reimbursement - a gift from the taxpayers. Student loans are just that...loans that the student can use for tuition as well as other educational items and that come with a payback obligation on the part of the student. In regard to traditional public schools being better than or equal to charter schools that's largely a myth perpetrated by teacher unions -- of which I was once a member. In Detroit, the charter schools and religious schools far outperform the public schools. Nationally, the margin is thinner, but overall, the charter schools have an edge. That's not to say that there aren't bad charters. There are. But the competition of the marketplace eventually weeds them out. Public schools don't have to compete. That's part of the problem. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on your definition of a Public School. If it's a school offered/run by a public entity, then I'd agree that thy are non-denominational. However, the big push in Wisconsin by both a Republican governor and a Republican legislature is for so-called voucher schools whereby private and religious schools are partially funded by taxpayer money. The argument for that is they provide a better education than the public schools. Unfortunately, the research shows that they don't perform any better and in some cases don't provide as good an education. I don't know if that meets the definition of separation of church and state, but it sure as hell is not non-denominational. -p On 4/6/2013 6:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've never seen a United States public school that has religious affiliation. I would think it would be unconstitutional. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone Except in parts of the South and Midwest. stan On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
trailing shutter flash ??
This was sent the other day, but i think , my gmail had reverted to rich text so i'll try again. I am going to try the above mentioned flash at the trampoline place Monday. I dont have anything really to play a round with here, but i assume i need to set both the K-5 and af360 to trailing shutter to work.?? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: trailing shutter flash ??
Nope. Set it on the camera and the flash will obey. Charles Robinson Sent from my phone, please pardon typos On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:59, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: This was sent the other day, but i think , my gmail had reverted to rich text so i'll try again. I am going to try the above mentioned flash at the trampoline place Monday. I dont have anything really to play a round with here, but i assume i need to set both the K-5 and af360 to trailing shutter to work.?? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: GESO Walking with the K-1
Thanks Ann, I would have loved to have you on the walk with me. You would have liked the old church that sat on that site. But a pyro burned it to the ground on his second try. They sent him away for 20 years. I have quite a collection of old churches old bars they seem to get abandoned at the same rate these days. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:14:55 -0400 From: Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO Walking with the K-1 Message-ID:516049ff.9000...@nyc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'd have enjoyed that walk. Love ghosts signs - like the mex of urban and small town... don't like the modern church much. the last shot reminds me of Chicago - The first Coca Cola sign I have a minor nit with.. just trip a tiny bit off the bottom so that bit of white something doesnt show... THe first one is haunting - something out of Hollywood film noir in an odd way. nice walk! ann On 4/6/2013 12:01, Don Guthrie wrote: Took a walk with K-1 and 35mm. Liked the results so posted here for CC. Any comments welcomed. Pretty much straight out of camera with normal adjust for raw. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633175078544/ orhttp://flic.kr/s/aHsjEBtyWL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: GESO Walking with the K-1
Thank you Bruce, it took awhile to find a treatment I liked for the fire escapes. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 11 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 13:58:31 -0400 From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO Walking with the K-1 Message-ID: cajuu0ceai0vxo1fykjuoejmvrcus6wzcgvav3c4bfpsd7jb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Good stuff, Don. I love the colour in the Coke sign. Also love the duotone fire escapes. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com wrote: Took a walk with K-1 and 35mm. Liked the results so posted here for CC. Any comments welcomed. Pretty much straight out of camera with normal adjust for raw. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633175078544/ orhttp://flic.kr/s/aHsjEBtyWL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Walking with the K-1
Excellent collection, Ann. The colors in the faded sign shots are smashing. Those are my favorites though the shadow-play images are also great as is the duotone of the building and fire escapes. Great all around! Mark On 4/6/2013 12:01 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Took a walk with K-1 and 35mm. Liked the results so posted here for CC. Any comments welcomed. Pretty much straight out of camera with normal adjust for raw. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633175078544/ or http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEBtyWL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Walking with the K-1
Oops Brian I did forget a place holder there. Yeah I do love the level on the K-5. Thanks for looking. Message: 6 Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:20:08 +1000 From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO Walking with the K-1 Message-ID: 20130407082008.horde.ifzyopzgffnryj_ywlca...@webmail.netregistry.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com: Took a walk with K-1 and 35mm. Liked the results so posted here for CC. Any comments welcomed. Pretty much straight out of camera with normal adjust for raw. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633175078544/ or http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEBtyWL A K-1!! Where did you get a K-1? Do you know something the rest of us don't? Oh, I see. A K-01 Interesting set of images. MY favourite is the old Coca Cola sign. Very grungy. Also IMGP3114 - nice interplay between the vertical lines of the building and the tree shadows. A tad of perspective correction might improve it a bit. -- Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Notes on the Pentax D-Li90 Battery
This had my curious, so I looked at my k-7 battery and it was chrome plated. Manufacture date 2009. I still regularly use that battery and have not had any problems with shorter battery life. 700 shots is attainable probably. I will clean my contacts though. My batteries always end up in pants pockets. Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Some points on getting the most from the D-Li90 Battery:- a) Note: the Pentax battery supplied with the K-5 no longer has the better Gold plated contact pins. It is plain chrome plated only, and prone to oxidation, where an opaque layer or a film forms on the pins. b) Was frequently getting the depleted battery sign on the K-5 with the Pentax original battery. It gave just (400) shots from a full charged battery - flash not used. c) Used pure ethyl alcohol Q-tips to clean the contact pins and then polished them off with a soft cloth. d) The depleted battery sign menace has gone away, and I now easily get around 700 shots. e) Last week a 3rd Party battery arrived from Singapore for $ 7 shipped. Looks very good and matches the Pentax Amp Hour Rating - 1860 Ah. I put it for charging in the Pentax original Charger. The Green charging light would come on and the shut down immediately. First thoughts - bad battery. Then I cleaned the contact pins as in Sl. c) above. And voila the battery charged very well. f) I keep a voltage record of all my batteries - discharged and fully charged. The Singapore battery measured 8.50 volts vs 8.45 for the Pentax when fully charged. Which means it is just as good and will last longer than the Pentax original. g) How do I make this claim?I have kept voltage records of all my D-Li50 battery for the K20D for the last (4) Years. All the batteries are still going strong - (1) Pentax original and (3) 3rd Party. I use it in the Camera as well as in the original D-BG2 Grip. As the battery age, the full charge voltage keeps going down. Here are some results:- Pentax original when New - 8.46 v, after 42 months - 8.24 v; 3rd Party 1 - 8.54 v 8.28 v; 3rd Party 2 - 8.56 v 8.17 v. And these 3rd Party batteries for the K20D are just as good even after (4) years - Amazon com and EvilBay purchases. Thanks for reading this post. Bipin - from the far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photoshop Configuration Reset
A while back I posted about some odd PS problems where key commands would not persist - select a tool via the keyboard and it would revert back to the prior tool after a couple of seconds. After some digging I found that this is an uncommon but known problem. None of the fizxes I found in the Adobe forums solved it, but I found that you can completely reset photoshop's preferences by holidng down CTRL-ALT-SHIFT while booting it. It deletes the configuration file and resets everything to default settings. I did that and this annoying problem is finally gone. Thought I'd pass this tip along. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How to add signature file in LR, and video on how to create it in PS
I posted the first half of this info in a different thread (in respons to Bruce's 1.5-months-old message, so many PDMLers may not have seen that. I am adding info on how to add the signature in LR. I know that some PDMLers add signature in PS. While there are a bunch of YouTube videos on how to do that, I find this tutorial more detailed: http://goo.gl/l2jk2 Besides, it explains how to create the image for you signature, and how to apply effects to it to improve the look. I just recently did one more step of how to do add a signature in LR as a watermark. There is an important moment: one should save the signature image as PNG (not JPG!). You should have that signature in PS without the background (only as a layer), then you would end up with a transparent PNG, - so that only the signature (as opposed to a rectangle under it) would show up in the watermark in LR. For the rest of the process, - just use edit watermark menu, and choose the PNG file, and then choose the parameters you like. Those would depend on the photos and the colors of your signature image. For mine, I found 50-55% transparency 7-8% size, and shift from 3:1 to 5:2 (horizontal:vertical) in the right bottom corner works the best. YMMV. HTH, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On 07/04/2013 5:35 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The pledge doesn't specify any one god. It can be mother nature for those who so believe. Or the god of secularism. We each take our pick. At best, you are being disingenuous. I suspect that neither the Knights of Columbus nor Pastor Docherty were thiniing of the Flying Spaghetti Monster when they lobbied Congress to get God put into the pledge. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On 07/04/2013 5:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. As a society, you would do better to put a great deal of effort into fixing your failing public schools rather than setting up a separate school system by and for the financial elites. If freedom is really about options, it would be nice if that freedom was available to everyone. By kicking the public school system to the curd, you are limiting the future freedom of anyone who cannot afford to pay their way into a charter school. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
What the British I guess India call Public Schools are what we in the U.S. call private schools. I'm not sure what they call actual public schools, except they call the kind of private schools we call Charter Schools free schools. From: Paul Stenquist All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
That clarifies things. Good to know. On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:18 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: What the British I guess India call Public Schools are what we in the U.S. call private schools. I'm not sure what they call actual public schools, except they call the kind of private schools we call Charter Schools free schools. From: Paul Stenquist All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
Some public charter schools are organized by religious organizations. They're *not supposed* to proselytize or discriminate against children from families that don't share their beliefs. Occasionally that actually works. From: Paul Stenquist I've never seen a United States public school that has religious affiliation. I would think it would be unconstitutional. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone Except in parts of the South and Midwest. stan On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/04/2013 5:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. As a society, you would do better to put a great deal of effort into fixing your failing public schools rather than setting up a separate school system by and for the financial elites. With vouchers private schools aren't just for the financial elite. And we've tried mightily to fix our public schools. I spent ten years working on it. But there are huge obstacles, including teacher unions that make it nearly impossible to get bad teachers out of the schools. Even with the performance standards recently enacted, less than 1 % of the current teaching staff has been judged ineffective. Yet their students are failing. Competition is the best answer. If freedom is really about options, it would be nice if that freedom was available to everyone. By kicking the public school system to the curd, you are limiting the future freedom of anyone who cannot afford to pay their way into a charter school. Again, a voucher system makes private schools accessible to all, while providing much needed competition for our public schools. Paul bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013, Bill wrote: As a society, you would do better to put a great deal of effort into fixing your failing public schools rather than setting up a separate school system by and for the financial elites. If freedom is really about options, it would be nice if that freedom was available to everyone. By kicking the public school system to the curd, you are limiting the future freedom of anyone who cannot afford to pay their way into a charter school. That's the whey to go! -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
Not so much squashed as shuffled off into the shadows until the heat dies down. From: David Parsons North Carolina is trying a novel approach (that has already been squashed) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/state-religion-bill-north-carolina_n_3016154.html On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I've never seen a United States public school that has religious affiliation. I would think it would be unconstitutional. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone Except in parts of the South and Midwest. stan On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I hate (in no particular order) banks Marmite really overcast cold days when I have to be out working banks stubbing the big toe on my left foot ageing drivers who cut me up on roundabouts through ignorance electric shocks from our cat slow 3G and banks -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
It's the North Carolina Legislature. The lunatics aren't the fringe. From: Paul Stenquist That's one from the lunatic fringe. Even if passed by the legislature, it wouldn't have survived a week. On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:38 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: North Carolina is trying a novel approach (that has already been squashed) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/state-religion-bill-north-carolina_n_3016154.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/04/2013 5:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. As a society, you would do better to put a great deal of effort into fixing your failing public schools rather than setting up a separate school system by and for the financial elites. With vouchers private schools aren't just for the financial elite. And we've tried mightily to fix our public schools. I spent ten years working on it. But there are huge obstacles, including teacher unions that make it nearly impossible to get bad teachers out of the schools. Even with the performance standards recently enacted, less than 1 % of the current teaching staff has been judged ineffective. Yet their students are failing. Competition is the best answer. If you really want kids to do well in school, you just need to make sure that every kid has access to either an Asian or a Jewish mother. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:41 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It's the North Carolina Legislature. The lunatics aren't the fringe. I can believe that. From: Paul Stenquist That's one from the lunatic fringe. Even if passed by the legislature, it wouldn't have survived a week. On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:38 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: North Carolina is trying a novel approach (that has already been squashed) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/state-religion-bill-north-carolina_n_3016154.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Bay Area in 4K
Although they claim they don't, TWC throttles bandwidth here in Raleigh unless you subscribe to their Turbo option. It makes any streaming content stutter stall and almost impossible to watch. Since they have an effective unregulated monopoly in this market subscribers have no recourse. I'm not sure Turbo would actually be any faster. I don't see how they could do it without replacing the existing cables to the house, which they don't do. I think all Turbo does is bypass whatever filter they use to throttle bandwidth for non-Turbo subscribers. From: Daniel J. Matyola Plays fine for me on both Optimum (office) and FiOS (home). Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola Teton Gravity Research Aerial Reel - The Bay Area in 4K: http://vimeo.com/62831216 Looks like it would be pretty cool. Unfortunately, Time Warner Cable wants an additional $40 a month to provide enough bandwidth for it to actually play. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On 6/4/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: My kids didn't recite the pledge of allegiance, and Grace doesn't do so today. I think that went away for the most part forty years ago or so. I'm not sure that it was a bad thing, but it's gone. I used to put my hand on my heart and recite with all the other second- graders in Mrs Bube's class. On the first day she wrote her name on the board and firmly reinforced its pronunciation: like c-u-b-e... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
From: Paul Sorenson Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. Yeah. That's my big objection. I don't mind paying the taxes that go to public schools, but they're taxing me to pay for church schools. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: trailing shutter flash ??
From: David J Brooks This was sent the other day, but i think , my gmail had reverted to rich text so i'll try again. I am going to try the above mentioned flash at the trampoline place Monday. I dont have anything really to play a round with here, but i assume i need to set both the K-5 and af360 to trailing shutter to work.?? Dave I'm pretty sure setting the camera sets the on-board flash and the AF360 control sets the AF360. Even with them both set to trailing curtain you're going to get a pre-flash when the shutter curtain opens. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Rant , with apologies in advance
Got nowhere else to vent. Someone hit my car yesterday morning - smashed the driver's side brake-light busted off the driver's side mirror. Left a couple of gouges in the rear fender. I know who it was, an old man driving an UN-liscensed John Deere Gator. I've seen him driving it on my street before. One of my neighbors helped him get his vehicle untangled from mine and then shepherded him back to his home. Later, another of my neighbors came over knocked on my door to wake me up and tell me my car had been hit. No police report, no license information, no insurance. Don't know if he'd been drinking or not. Got no way to find out now. The neighbor who shepherded him home says he goes to the same church will get the people who take care of him to pay for repairing the damage. I ain't holding my breath. Assholes! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: trailing shutter flash ??
On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:12 , John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks This was sent the other day, but i think , my gmail had reverted to rich text so i'll try again. I am going to try the above mentioned flash at the trampoline place Monday. I dont have anything really to play a round with here, but i assume i need to set both the K-5 and af360 to trailing shutter to work.?? Dave I'm pretty sure setting the camera sets the on-board flash and the AF360 control sets the AF360. Even with them both set to trailing curtain you're going to get a pre-flash when the shutter curtain opens. I stand corrected. To get trailing-curtain flash with the external, you have to set the external flash to that mode. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Bad Ass
From the Roller Derby last night: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/mnrg_championship/content/K5__6499_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K5 and high-speed cards
On Apr 6, 2013, at 13:49 , Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: I picked up a couple of Sandisk SDHC 16GB Ultra cards which are rated as Class 10 and 30MB/sec I already have a Sandisk SDHC 16GB Extreme card which is rated Class 10 and 30MB/sec What's the difference? I ran a benchmark and the difference is night and day. The Class-10 30MB/s Extreme card has a 30MB/s write rate, and a 45MB/s read. The Class-10 30MB/s Ultra card has a 10MB/s write rate, and a 44.5MB/s read. One gets what one pays for, I guess! Good enough, though, as a backup spare when I run out of space for whatever reason. Benchmark images below: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/sandisk_extreme.png http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/sandisk_ultra.png -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Bay Area in 4K
You're right. They just throttle it down. We have the turbo and speedtest consistently reports 30Mb down and 5Mb up. -p Sent from my iPad On Apr 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Although they claim they don't, TWC throttles bandwidth here in Raleigh unless you subscribe to their Turbo option. It makes any streaming content stutter stall and almost impossible to watch. Since they have an effective unregulated monopoly in this market subscribers have no recourse. I'm not sure Turbo would actually be any faster. I don't see how they could do it without replacing the existing cables to the house, which they don't do. I think all Turbo does is bypass whatever filter they use to throttle bandwidth for non-Turbo subscribers. From: Daniel J. Matyola Plays fine for me on both Optimum (office) and FiOS (home). Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola Teton Gravity Research Aerial Reel - The Bay Area in 4K: http://vimeo.com/62831216 Looks like it would be pretty cool. Unfortunately, Time Warner Cable wants an additional $40 a month to provide enough bandwidth for it to actually play. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Bay Area in 4K
John, Don't feel bad, it stuttered and stopped here in suburban Chicago as well with ATT U-verse. I stopped it until it fully downloaded and then got a continuous play. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 11:54 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Although they claim they don't, TWC throttles bandwidth here in Raleigh unless you subscribe to their Turbo option. It makes any streaming content stutter stall and almost impossible to watch. Since they have an effective unregulated monopoly in this market subscribers have no recourse. I'm not sure Turbo would actually be any faster. I don't see how they could do it without replacing the existing cables to the house, which they don't do. I think all Turbo does is bypass whatever filter they use to throttle bandwidth for non-Turbo subscribers. From: Daniel J. Matyola Plays fine for me on both Optimum (office) and FiOS (home). Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola Teton Gravity Research Aerial Reel - The Bay Area in 4K: http://vimeo.com/62831216 Looks like it would be pretty cool. Unfortunately, Time Warner Cable wants an additional $40 a month to provide enough bandwidth for it to actually play. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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electric shocks from our cat You should get it neutraled. B On 7 Apr 2013, at 17:40, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: I hate (in no particular order) banks Marmite really overcast cold days when I have to be out working banks stubbing the big toe on my left foot ageing drivers who cut me up on roundabouts through ignorance electric shocks from our cat slow 3G and banks -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rant , with apologies in advance
John, Maybe it's time for the local sheriff to get involved. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Got nowhere else to vent. Someone hit my car yesterday morning - smashed the driver's side brake-light busted off the driver's side mirror. Left a couple of gouges in the rear fender. I know who it was, an old man driving an UN-liscensed John Deere Gator. I've seen him driving it on my street before. One of my neighbors helped him get his vehicle untangled from mine and then shepherded him back to his home. Later, another of my neighbors came over knocked on my door to wake me up and tell me my car had been hit. No police report, no license information, no insurance. Don't know if he'd been drinking or not. Got no way to find out now. The neighbor who shepherded him home says he goes to the same church will get the people who take care of him to pay for repairing the damage. I ain't holding my breath. Assholes! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bad Ass
Not Bad ass! Sweet, Charles. Jack From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: PESO: Bad Ass From the Roller Derby last night: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/mnrg_championship/content/K5__6499_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
On 7 Apr 2013, at 17:56, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 6/4/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: My kids didn't recite the pledge of allegiance, and Grace doesn't do so today. I think that went away for the most part forty years ago or so. I'm not sure that it was a bad thing, but it's gone. I used to put my hand on my heart and recite with all the other second- graders in Mrs Bube's class. On the first day she wrote her name on the board and firmly reinforced its pronunciation: like c-u-b-e... She could probably have taught a thing or two to our German teacher, Herr Kundt. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
We have private schools, public schools, grant-maintained schools, state-funded religious schools, privately-funded religious schools, city academies, 6th-form colleges, private tutors, community colleges, reform schools, schools of art, technical schools, schools of dolphins, seminaries, madrassas and football academies. They are run by boards of governors, bursars, parent-teacher associations, local authorities, central government, the Football Association, Opus Dei, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rabbi Lionel Blue, Tony Blair's creationist chums, and Abu Hamza. There are four national curricula. External examinations are set by the Joint Matriculation Board, Oxford University, Cambridge University, McDonalds university, AQA, OCR, CIE, edexcel, CCEA, Lord David Beckham VC, ICAAE, WJEC and Sue Perkins. Internal examinations are conducted by the Catholic priesthood, and Sir James Savile (deceased). The examination boards are themselves examined by OFWAT, Ofsted, Father Ted, and half a kilo of kumquats. Each of these is overseen by the Secretary of State for education, who in turn is responsible to the Bullingdon Club, who answer to no-one. It's no wonder we're all so feckin' intelligent. Dr. Prof. Bob, MA, D. Phil., STD, Milk Marketing board (Hon.) On 7 Apr 2013, at 17:18, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: What the British I guess India call Public Schools are what we in the U.S. call private schools. I'm not sure what they call actual public schools, except they call the kind of private schools we call Charter Schools free schools. From: Paul Stenquist All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values. ... What's wrong with this sentence? Spurious logic. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
John - I understand your feeling, but look at it this way. If all of the private schools closed tomorrow the public schools would have to instantly absorb all of those children. How many new schools would your city need to build and how many additional teachers would your city need to hire to handle the increased enrollment? How much would that cost? That figure is the amount that the public schools are being subsidized by the private school parents. Religious school or not - private schools save the taxpayers a lot of money. In my area many or most of the public schools are at or near capacity. Several of the buildings have quite a few temporary classrooms in trailers. The school nearest me has had those temporary trailers behind the school since I moved here in the mid '80s. I don't know how long they had been there before that. There is no way the school system could absorb the thousands of kids in private schools. The public administrators have openly admitted this on several occasions. The private school parents voluntarily pay their taxes and private tuition not only for religious reasons. The private schools have their own problems. But that is a different topic. Any tax dollars that help keep the private schools open are tax dollars that would be spent for those same students to be transferred to public schools. And since most religious schools around here operate on a lot less money per student, the cost to the tax payers would be even greater. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Paul Sorenson Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. Yeah. That's my big objection. I don't mind paying the taxes that go to public schools, but they're taxing me to pay for church schools. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bad Ass
Not bad at all! Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: From the Roller Derby last night: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/mnrg_championship/content/K5__6499_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
Competition for public schools? You can't operate a public school system on a business model. If businesses don't work out, they can just go out of business, shut down. Public schools don't exactly have that luxury. Voucher systems suck money away from public schools, making it even harder for them to do the job we (and students!) need them to do. In essence it is a subsidy for private schools and to families who are already well off. This insidious process is disguised and whitewashed by using terms like freedom of choice when in fact rich people always have the choice of where to send their kids while vouchers take away the choice of impoverished students to have a quality education. Want to help public education? This is not the way to do it. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. Wisconsin is one of only a few states that allow vouchers to be used in religious schools. The Wisconsin Supreme Court okayed that in 1998, but it's expected that the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually rule on it. I suspect they will affirm the state court's decision, in that federal student loans have always been available at religiously affiliated universities. That doesn't make those universities public schools. Apples and oranges...vouchers are paid directly to the school as state aid with no requirement for any reimbursement - a gift from the taxpayers. Student loans are just that...loans that the student can use for tuition as well as other educational items and that come with a payback obligation on the part of the student. In regard to traditional public schools being better than or equal to charter schools that's largely a myth perpetrated by teacher unions -- of which I was once a member. In Detroit, the charter schools and religious schools far outperform the public schools. Nationally, the margin is thinner, but overall, the charter schools have an edge. That's not to say that there aren't bad charters. There are. But the competition of the marketplace eventually weeds them out. Public schools don't have to compete. That's part of the problem. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on your definition of a Public School. If it's a school offered/run by a public entity, then I'd agree that thy are non-denominational. However, the big push in Wisconsin by both a Republican governor and a Republican legislature is for so-called voucher schools whereby private and religious schools are partially funded by taxpayer money. The argument for that is they provide a better education than the public schools. Unfortunately, the research shows that they don't perform any better and in some cases don't provide as good an education. I don't know if that meets the definition of separation of church and state, but it sure as hell is not non-denominational. -p On 4/6/2013 6:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've never seen a United States public school that has religious affiliation. I would think it would be unconstitutional. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: All U.S. public schools are non-demominational. Paul via phone Except in parts of the South and Midwest. stan On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:01, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: In an effort to inject a bit of levity into this discussion.. On 4/6/2013 10:12, Bipin Gupta wrote: ... I am a Hindu, but went to a Roman Catholic Boarding Public School, so I fully understand Western Values.
Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested
You can't operate a public school system on a business model. If businesses don't work out, they can just go out of business, shut down. Public schools don't exactly have that luxury. Yes they do, although it isn't a luxury. Public school that are failing are being shut down now, at least in New Jersey and New York. The students are transferred to more competent school. The building are either re-purposed, or used for a new school, sometimes a charter school. Voucher systems suck money away from public schools, making it even harder for them to do the job we (and students!) need them to do. In essence it is a subsidy for private schools and to families who are already well off. That is the talking point of the teacher unions, but it is far from the truth. Charter schools and other alternative schools have reduced overcrowding in under-performing public schools, improving the ability of the latter to improve. Instead of favoring families that are well-off, vouchers make it possible for students from poor families to attend schools with middle-class and well-off families. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Competition for public schools? You can't operate a public school system on a business model. If businesses don't work out, they can just go out of business, shut down. Public schools don't exactly have that luxury. Voucher systems suck money away from public schools, making it even harder for them to do the job we (and students!) need them to do. In essence it is a subsidy for private schools and to families who are already well off. This insidious process is disguised and whitewashed by using terms like freedom of choice when in fact rich people always have the choice of where to send their kids while vouchers take away the choice of impoverished students to have a quality education. Want to help public education? This is not the way to do it. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: April 7, 2013 4/7/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Posting Photos of Street Art can get you arrested On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: Interspersed... On 4/6/2013 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Voucher systems provide education financing but allow parents to make their own choice. The selections are generally many and no one is compelled to attend a religious institution. Thus, they don't really fit the definition of a public school. I have no problem with parents choosing to send their children to private or religious schools - *Choosing* being the operative word. My point is that they have the option of attending a public school and if they choose a private school they know there is an obligation to pay tuition. The taxpayers do not/should not have an obligation to subsidize them. But if we establish a charter school system to provide competition for our failing public schools, offering choices seems reasonable. I have no problem with some of my tax dollars going to a Muslim school or a school that preaches the modern religion of secularism, as long as those schools are succeeding and other options are available. Freedom is about options. Wisconsin is one of only a few states that allow vouchers to be used in religious schools. The Wisconsin Supreme Court okayed that in 1998, but it's expected that the U.S. Supreme Court will eventually rule on it. I suspect they will affirm the state court's decision, in that federal student loans have always been available at religiously affiliated universities. That doesn't make those universities public schools. Apples and oranges...vouchers are paid directly to the school as state aid with no requirement for any reimbursement - a gift from the taxpayers. Student loans are just that...loans that the student can use for tuition as well as other educational items and that come with a payback obligation on the part of the student. In regard to traditional public schools being better than or equal to charter schools that's largely a myth perpetrated by teacher unions -- of which I was once a member. In Detroit, the charter schools and religious schools far outperform the public schools. Nationally, the margin is thinner, but overall, the charter schools have an edge. That's not to say that there aren't bad charters. There are. But the competition of the marketplace eventually weeds them out. Public schools don't have to compete. That's part of the problem. Paul On Apr 6, 2013, at 7:58 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on your definition of a Public School. If it's a school offered/run by a public entity, then I'd agree that thy are non-denominational. However, the big push in Wisconsin by both a Republican governor and
