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How do we know you are The Real Chris Mitchell?

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Chris Mitchell
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Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Sorenson

Loud and clear

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Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3

Read you loud and clear Chris.
It's probably a new feature from Google.
Something to give us back more time.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?

Eeuw, why would you want non-coated glass.
Flare, internal reflections, veiling flare.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 Refer to:

 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/zooms/_non-SMC/index.html

 Note there is no SMC prefix. They may be optically the same.

 Alan C

 John Francis wrote:

 Are you sure you meant to put that qualifier there?

 AFAIK the F line (effectively the first auto-focus series)
 had multi-coating, just like the earlier M and A lenses,
 and the subsequent FA lenses.  The difference between the
 F and the FA lenses is mostly in the information that is
 transmitted over the digital signal pin; while the exact
 details escape me now I think it might be that the FA
 lenses also tell the camera the focus distance the lens is
 set to, which allows for more complex exposure metering.


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Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?

2013-05-30 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Eeuw, why would you want non-coated glass.
 Flare, internal reflections, veiling flare.

It would save some people the effort of adding those things in Photoshop.

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RE: Adobe acknowledges cool reception

2013-05-30 Thread Gerrit Visser

The I's have it. The Architect there taught me that accepting a comment is
not the same as agreeing :-) Made writing my requirements and design
documents so my less stressful.

Gerrit

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Now, was that Company A ('80's) or Company I ('90's)?  ;-)

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
 So really they are saying what I learned to say at a company we both 
 worked
 for: Thank you for your input. This of course meant that I mostly 
 ignored it :-)

 Gerrit

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 Adobe finally issues a brief response to the Creative Cloud backlash.
 http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-upd
 ate/

 In a nutshell:

   Gosh, a few folks don't like subscription services. Who knew?

 and

   Golly, photographers are weird.

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Re: PESO A little Pano from Vivid Sydney 2013

Rob,
Your photo brings back pleasant memories of a too short visit to
Sidney and your world wind tour of the harbor.  I think we went by
that spot.
And I'm still cutting myself on that Voightlander 125mm you introduced me to.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 29 May 2013 19:18, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 Splendid. What a beautiful sight.

 Thanks Alan, the city is quite spectacularly lit up during this Vivid
 Festival, probably the best it's been aside from the censorship
 controversy.

 On 29 May 2013 20:54, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Beautiful. Great composition and vivid color.

 Thanks Paul, honestly it's difficult not to take a gorgeous shot in
 the city at the moment.

 On 29 May 2013 21:08, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 Nice shot, what lens and camera and ISO did you use?

 Hi John, thanks, the camera was a bog stock K5 and the lens was the
 current Sigma AF 17-50mm F/2.8 EX DC OS HSM at 17mm/f5.6

 On 29 May 2013 23:34, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quite Lovely!

 Thanks Dan, glad you liked the shot :)

 On 30 May 2013 00:36, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Love it, Rob!  Vivid to be sure!  Syndey is beautiful!  It's on my places to 
 visit list and I look forward to seeing it.  Cheers, Christine

 Hi Christine, Thanks, it's a great looking city, not always fun to
 live in but all big cities have their significant strengths and
 weaknesses. Would love yo see you out here, you know that we would
 look after you and Darrel very well :)

 On 30 May 2013 01:28, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting perspective for a pano. But pano or not it is a nice photo.

 Hi Don, thanks, to be perfectly honest it's not much of a pano, the
 overlap was huge, the increased horizontal angle of view was limited
 but made for a more pleasing overall composition I think.

 On 30 May 2013 04:51, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 Very pretty!

 So crisp and sharp, I figured I would peek at the EXIF to see how far you 
 stopped down.  Imagine my surprise to see it's shot at f/5.6.  Not too 
 radical at all!

 Thanks Charles, really I don't often find the stop down beyond f8 when
 shooting ultra wides, the image is sharp but it's more to do with the
 fact that the camera was resting on a very solid steel post I suspect.
 I used the 2sec mirror pre-fire so that I could get my hands away,
 that's why the vertical angle of view isn't optimal, I should revisit
 the spot and use a tripod I think.

 Thanks for all who viewed and especially those who commented too.

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Re: PESO: Needs a Title

2013-05-30 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks, Frank!

Jack
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Can't help with a title but that's a wonderful photo!

cheers,
frank

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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=695
 
Thanks,
 
Jack

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Huston, Huston, we have a mirror...

2013-05-30 Thread Boris Liberman

My k-5's mirror is acting up. When I take a shot, it seems like it flips 
twice and the second time over it returns only partially. That is, the 
upper part of the image in the viewfinder is soft as if I'm looking through 
tilted lens. Turning off/on the power switch helps this far.


I wonder what it usually costs to repair in usa and if it is indeed the 
infamous mirror problem?


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PESO: Waiting

In the waiting room, Penn Station, Newark, NJ
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17398639
Comments are invited

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Re: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

I also like the first image, but I got this for the second:
Problem with Your Input

We had a problem processing your entry:

This photo doesn't exist. (The owner has probably deleted it.) 
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:56 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 More from the lilac series.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=173965335

 K-5, D FA 50-200 AF360 at -1.0 EV

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Re: PAW177 - T

Outstanding portrait, with lots of personality.
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 Beautiful portrait.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 A bit late this week, I had to develop it first :-)
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Bronica SQ-A, PS180mm, Ilford HP5+, 1/60s, f/4.5


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Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3

I see your post.

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PESO: Waiting

In the waiting room, Penn Station, Newark, NJ
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Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign

The sign, however, seems to contain a message from the 30 year old to
the 42 year old.  That doesn't make sense to me.

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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Otherwise known as an attempt to hit the snooze button on the biological 
 clock.

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:38 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Unfortunately, 30 is already a bit old.  This advice should be sent to her
 23 year old self.  Child birth at age 40+ is a killer too.  Not politically
 correct, but true non the less.

 On 5/29/2013 6:26 PM, Bob W wrote:

 On 29 May 2013, at 21:10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I found this sign over the weekend in the train station, on our way to
 NYC.  I found it a bit puzzling;  perhaps someone can explain it to
 me.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396092

 Women are being encouraged to freeze their eggs at a relatively early age
 if they are going to wait a few years before conceiving (in vitro). It
 increases their chances of successful conception in their 40s.

 So the ad is suggesting that freezing your eggs at age 30 is a gift to
 yourself age 42.

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Re: PAW177 - T

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist

Excellent! love the tonality.

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 Outstanding portrait, with lots of personality.
 Dan Matyola
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 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beautiful portrait.
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
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 Sent: May 28, 2013 5/28/13
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 Subject: PAW177 - T
 
 A bit late this week, I had to develop it first :-)
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Bronica SQ-A, PS180mm, Ilford HP5+, 1/60s, f/4.5
 
 
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Re: PESO -- Country Christmas Tree

Error (503)

Something went wrong. Don't worry, your files are still safe and the
Dropboxers have been notified. Check out our Help Center and forums
for help, or head back to home. 
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:05 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now that summer's almost here, it's time to process some images from mid
 winter...

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20countrychristmastree.html

 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

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Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander

Strong portrait.  The other woman appears to be looking at her with admiration.

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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I keep going back to this pic of a lady food truck boss. I don't know if it's 
 the twinkle in her eyes or the smile that spreads fully arose her face, but I 
 find her most appealing.

 Shit with K-5, DA* 60-250/4 and the 560 flash at -.5.

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Re: How to clean an add-on lens?

It didn't melt because of the heat. The heat didn't help, but it melted 
because of chemical decomposition.  That nice foam lining that was used 
in the 60's 70's and 80's just decomposes over time into some really 
nasty breakdown products. They're a bitch to clean, and really not good 
for unprotected metals, (I have a Canadian Proof Dollar that is no 
longer Proof, because the packaging and display material was made of a 
similar foam).  I had four 43mm, (IIRC), filters that were stored in 
their original packaging that were subjected to that breakdown.   I used 
a number of cleaning solutions including ethanol, methanol and 
naphthalene.  There's still some discoloration on a couple of filters 
that wasn't entirely removed.  I'd simply have chucked them except they 
were special rear filters for a Vivitar S1 600mm Solid Cat.  I did this 
years ago so I can't tell you what worked best, I pretty much tried 
everything that I didn't think would scratch the glass.


On 5/29/2013 6:24 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Argh!..
Today, I pulled an old add-on x2 close-up lens (attaches as a filter),
just to realize that the foam that came with it is all melted.
After sitting for a few years in ambience, in the closet (in hot Texas),
a piece of foam that used to cushion and prop the lens inside the box
sort of melted and left a glue-like residue on the lens.

Any ideas on what I can use to remove that residue?
Just a lens cleaning paper wouldn't work... What type of cleaning solution
(solvent?) can be used?

Thank you,

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Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3


You were gone?

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Re: PESO: Waiting

I love the detail in the wood bench. It's interesting how transit
station seating has evolved, but that rail company has kept this
uncomfortable but solid furniture. It's in keeping with Dave's steam
trains.

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Re: PESO fluorescent scarves


I was wondering who and or what you were planning to tie up with them...

On 4/27/2013 7:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was at Kohl's recently shopping for clothes, and noticed that they had
fluorescent scarves on sale for $10 each, so I bought a bunch to play
with under black light.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8687556890/in/set-72157633351049979

Some of the rest of the set might not be completely safe for extremely
prudish offices just because we were also playing with fluorescent
rope and webbing.




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Re: OT GESO - Saturday light


Yea, they're kind of the transition between her feet and her legs...

On 4/27/2013 7:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

She had ankles?


-Original Message-

From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: OT GESO - Saturday light

On 27/04/2013 6:20 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

As Mr Savage says, its all about the light

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/04/saturdaylight/index.html


Image 12: Nice ankles.

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Re: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

Notice that the second URL is one digit longer than the first. Change 
the 335 to 35 and it works.


From: Jack Davis

Can only pull up the first image. Like a lot, David.

Jack


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Subject: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

More from the lilac series.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=173965335

K-5, D FA 50-200 AF360 at -1.0 EV

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RE: How to clean an add-on lens?


From: Igor Roshchin

Argh!..
Today, I pulled an old add-on x2 close-up lens (attaches as a filter),
just to realize that the foam that came with it is all melted.
After sitting for a few years in ambience, in the closet (in hot Texas),
a piece of foam that used to cushion and prop the lens inside the box
sort of melted and left a glue-like residue on the lens.

Any ideas on what I can use to remove that residue?
Just a lens cleaning paper wouldn't work... What type of cleaning solution
(solvent?) can be used?

Thank you,

Igor



Hydrofluoric acid might work. It will dissolve just about anything. 8-D

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Re: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

2013-05-30 Thread Jack Davis

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533

 
- Original Message -
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

Notice that the second URL is one digit longer than the first. Change 
the 335 to 35 and it works.

From: Jack Davis
 Can only pull up the first image. Like a lot, David.

 Jack


 - Original Message -
 From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com; 
 Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com; Darryl Button butto...@mmm.ca; David 
 Button butt...@mmm.ca
 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:56 PM
 Subject: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

 More from the lilac series.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=173965335

 K-5, D FA 50-200 AF360 at -1.0 EV

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Testing, testing 1-2-3


From: Chris Mitchell

After several days of PDML silence and lack of response from my ISP (I
assume that they've got some sort of spam filter issue), I've rejoined
with a different email address.

Am I getting through?

Chris


I'm sure glad I don't have those kind of problems with RoadRu

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Amazon keeps sending me stuff about the K-5

Every time I do I poke around a bit.  It just hit me.  Amazon shows the 
list price of the K-5 as 1099.00 and the K-5II as, wait for it, 1099.00...


That just seems wrong somehow.

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Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign


From: Daniel J. Matyola

The sign, however, seems to contain a message from the 30 year old to
the 42 year old.  That doesn't make sense to me.


It's really a message from the fertility clinic wanting to sell egg 
freezing services to young Emma so she can give herself the gift of 
post-menopausal fertility.


It's confusing because no one proof-reads this shit anymore. They just 
run spell-check  as long as all the words are somewhere in the 
dictionary it's good to go.



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Re: PESO: Riding High

The higher you are the more it hurts when you fall. Looks like you  
Frank are vieing for panning king. I admire both of you with your 
skills in this style.


I took a photo of bike rider the other day and got yelled at. He asked 
why I took the photo. I didn't figure he would know HCB so I said it was 
just a hobby. He then cursed me out. Which must have had some effect 
because when I got home my Q was no longer working and needs to be sent 
in again for repair. He was my last photo. Joy.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 16:50:53 -0400
From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net,  frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO: Riding High
Message-ID:
caomwt1x0yhxpmmd45kwvjmjszz1clr7csxdd3e53e5jhor1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I found this gentleman circling the track before the Tour Of
Somerville bike races Monday:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396332
Comments are invited.

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Re: How to clean an add-on lens?

Goo remover? Goo-Be-Gone is the name I think.

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org
To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: How to clean an add-on lens?
Message-ID:201305292224.r4tmolb4061...@trantor.komkon.org

Argh!..
Today, I pulled an old add-on x2 close-up lens (attaches as a filter),
just to realize that the foam that came with it is all melted.
After sitting for a few years in ambience, in the closet (in hot Texas),
a piece of foam that used to cushion and prop the lens inside the box
sort of melted and left a glue-like residue on the lens.

Any ideas on what I can use to remove that residue?
Just a lens cleaning paper wouldn't work... What type of cleaning solution
(solvent?) can be used?

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How far behind am I

P.J.'s Christmas tree begs the question How far behind processing photos 
do you get? I am constantly finding photos on my hard drive that have 
been copied and loaded into Aperture but never gotten beyond raw. I also 
find photos that I meant to post somewhere and flag for PDML that I 
never did anything with. I posted something on Google+ last week  
realized I should post it here  still have not  done so.


They say the butcher backed into his meat cutter  got a little behind 
in his work. I empathize.



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Re:PESO: Waiting

It is a keep your head down and stay connected world.

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Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 09:52:11 -0400
From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Waiting
Message-ID:
caomwt1yit5ddasclvotay+z-auhah9e9d_xow7tpnmt7wu6...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

In the waiting room, Penn Station, Newark, NJ
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17398639
Comments are invited

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Amazon keeps sending me stuff about the K-5

2013-05-30 Thread Stan Halpin


On May 30, 2013, at 11:25 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Every time I do I poke around a bit.  It just hit me.  Amazon shows the list 
 price of the K-5 as 1099.00 and the K-5II as, wait for it, 1099.00...
 
 That just seems wrong somehow.
 
 -- 

I think it is great that older models have held their value so well. Too often 
the market treats previous models as obsolete doorstops that need to be 
discarded as soon as possible. Pentax and the move from K-7 to K-5 to K-5ii 
reminds me somewhat of the Apple strategy with the iPhone in recent 
generations: here is our newest best and greatest, but the previous model was 
pretty good and you can buy that still, at a slight discount . . . They praise 
the new without denigrating the old.

stan


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Re: PESO: Riding High

A sad tale, on both accounts!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 The higher you are the more it hurts when you fall. Looks like you  Frank
 are vieing for panning king. I admire both of you with your skills in this
 style.

 I took a photo of bike rider the other day and got yelled at. He asked why I
 took the photo. I didn't figure he would know HCB so I said it was just a
 hobby. He then cursed me out. Which must have had some effect because when I
 got home my Q was no longer working and needs to be sent in again for
 repair. He was my last photo. Joy.

 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 5
 Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 16:50:53 -0400

 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net,frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Riding High
 Message-ID:

 caomwt1x0yhxpmmd45kwvjmjszz1clr7csxdd3e53e5jhor1...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


 I found this gentleman circling the track before the Tour Of
 Somerville bike races Monday:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396332
 Comments are invited.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Peso blue jay 45 with correct link

The missing linkl:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396535

Blue jay 4

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533

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Re: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:02 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Notice that the second URL is one digit longer than the first. Change the
 335 to 35 and it works.

I posted a nother Peso with correct links now

Dave

 From: Jack Davis

 Can only pull up the first image. Like a lot, David.

 Jack


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 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com;
 Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com; Darryl Button butto...@mmm.ca; David
 Button butt...@mmm.ca
 Cc:
 Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:56 PM
 Subject: Peso Jay # 4 and 5

 More from the lilac series.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=173965335

 K-5, D FA 50-200 AF360 at -1.0 EV

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OT: Flash enablement

Well, a couple of weeks after my little financial windfall at work, I 
finally decided I should use some of the money to join the flash 
photography world. So, I went down to the local brick-and-mortar camera 
shop in town and picked up this:


http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

I tested it out in the shop and it worked fine as far as I could tell. 
The thing is, I know jack shizzle about using flash units. Still, it 
seems like a well-built unit -- good heft and smooth rotation. The 
wireless signal worked well as best I can tell, too. So, for the time 
being, I feel like I got a decent deal: $169, discounted from the 
regular $249 price tag.


When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching 
tutorials on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially 
said, This is where you can use flash to get this lighting effect. 
There was no nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though TTL 
were completely reliable, which I gather isn't really the case. So, I 
was wondering where I might be able to learn more about shooting manual 
flash in the event the TTL function fails me -- something to give me an 
idea of when to adjust the flash output power, at what distances, etc. I 
know nothing about guide numbers, flash modes, or anything like that.


Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: OT: Flash enablement


Oops. Not the right URL.

This one's better:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/dp/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


On 5/30/2013 12:53 PM, Walt wrote:
Well, a couple of weeks after my little financial windfall at work, I 
finally decided I should use some of the money to join the flash 
photography world. So, I went down to the local brick-and-mortar 
camera shop in town and picked up this:


http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending 



Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

I tested it out in the shop and it worked fine as far as I could tell. 
The thing is, I know jack shizzle about using flash units. Still, it 
seems like a well-built unit -- good heft and smooth rotation. The 
wireless signal worked well as best I can tell, too. So, for the time 
being, I feel like I got a decent deal: $169, discounted from the 
regular $249 price tag.


When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching 
tutorials on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially 
said, This is where you can use flash to get this lighting effect. 
There was no nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though 
TTL were completely reliable, which I gather isn't really the case. 
So, I was wondering where I might be able to learn more about shooting 
manual flash in the event the TTL function fails me -- something to 
give me an idea of when to adjust the flash output power, at what 
distances, etc. I know nothing about guide numbers, flash modes, or 
anything like that.


Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be 
appreciated.


-- Walt



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Re: OT: Flash enablement

This is a good place to staert:http://www.strobist.blogspot.ca/

After that just show up at Stenquest's place.

Dave

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
Oops. Not the right URL.

This one's better:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/dp/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

On 5/30/2013 12:53 PM, Walt wrote:

Well, a couple of weeks after my little financial windfall at work, I
finally decided I should use some of the money to join the flash photography
world. So, I went down to the local brick-and-mortar camera shop in town and
picked up this:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

I tested it out in the shop and it worked fine as far as I could tell. The
thing is, I know jack shizzle about using flash units. Still, it seems like
a well-built unit -- good heft and smooth rotation. The wireless signal
worked well as best I can tell, too. So, for the time being, I feel like I
got a decent deal: $169, discounted from the regular $249 price tag.

When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching tutorials
on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially said, This is
where you can use flash to get this lighting effect. There was no
nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though TTL were completely
reliable, which I gather isn't really the case. So, I was wondering where I
might be able to learn more about shooting manual flash in the event the TTL
function fails me -- something to give me an idea of when to adjust the
flash output power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide
numbers, flash modes, or anything like that.

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be
appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Riding High

Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago, only in my case, it was a 
young lady.


I concluded that she was riding a bike because she must have lost her 
driver's license and was embarrassed about it, or she was just flat-out 
neurotic.


It was a shame, because it was an interesting-looking bike -- retro, as 
it were -- and would've been a good shot. The more I thought about it, 
the more I wish I'd just told her to go to hell and to keep her neurotic 
ass at home behind a privacy fence if she didn't want to be seen on her 
bike. And then there was the esprit d'escalier that inevitably kicks in 
after such confrontations.


In any event, that'll be the last time something like that happens. The 
next person will be told to get bent.


-- Walt

On 5/30/2013 10:35 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
The higher you are the more it hurts when you fall. Looks like you  
Frank are vieing for panning king. I admire both of you with your 
skills in this style.


I took a photo of bike rider the other day and got yelled at. He asked 
why I took the photo. I didn't figure he would know HCB so I said it 
was just a hobby. He then cursed me out. Which must have had some 
effect because when I got home my Q was no longer working and needs to 
be sent in again for repair. He was my last photo. Joy.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 16:50:53 -0400
From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net,frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO: Riding High
Message-ID:
caomwt1x0yhxpmmd45kwvjmjszz1clr7csxdd3e53e5jhor1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I found this gentleman circling the track before the Tour Of
Somerville bike races Monday:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396332
Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: How to clean an add-on lens?

2013-05-30 Thread Igor Roshchin


Thu May 30 10:58:42 EDT 2013
John Sessoms wrote:


 From: Igor Roshchin
  Argh!..
  Today, I pulled an old add-on x2 close-up lens (attaches as a filter),
  just to realize that the foam that came with it is all melted.
  After sitting for a few years in ambience, in the closet (in hot
  Texas),
  a piece of foam that used to cushion and prop the lens inside the box
  sort of melted and left a glue-like residue on the lens.
 
  Any ideas on what I can use to remove that residue?
  Just a lens cleaning paper wouldn't work... What type of cleaning
  solution
  (solvent?) can be used?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Igor
 
 
 Hydrofluoric acid might work. It will dissolve just about anything. 8-D
 

... including the glass and my bones.

Igor


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Re: OT: Flash enablement

Thanks, Dave.

Now that you mention it, I recall someone (maybe Bruce) pointing me to
Lighting 101 at Strobist a while back as a place to start. In fact, I
think I even starred the email for future reference.

-- Walt

On 5/30/2013 1:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

This is a good place to staert:http://www.strobist.blogspot.ca/

After that just show up at Stenquest's place.

Dave

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Oops. Not the right URL.

This one's better:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/dp/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

On 5/30/2013 12:53 PM, Walt wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be
appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: How to clean an add-on lens?

2013-05-30 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Hydrofluoric acid might work. It will dissolve just about anything. 8-D

 ... including the glass and my bones.

You won't be upset about the lens anymore.

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Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Robinson

On May 30, 2013, at 09:15 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 The sign, however, seems to contain a message from the 30 year old to
 the 42 year old.  That doesn't make sense to me.
 

Yes, that's correct.

Here, old me.  These are eggs from the young me.  Enjoy

 -Charles

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Re: How far behind am I

I don't think of it as falling behind, I just employ a lengthy
cooling-off period. My initial enthusiasm for the results of a shoot
often fades away soon after. I really only want to post my best --
an ever rising bar -- so I'm not too concerned if some good stuff
fails to get seen immediately.

I've got stuff from last year and the year before that that I've gone
back over and decided to bump from 2 stars to 3 stars or from 3 to 4.
Meaning it will likely get processed and show up somewhere Real Soon
Now.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 P.J.'s Christmas tree begs the question How far behind processing photos do
 you get? I am constantly finding photos on my hard drive that have been
 copied and loaded into Aperture but never gotten beyond raw. I also find
 photos that I meant to post somewhere and flag for PDML that I never did
 anything with. I posted something on Google+ last week  realized I should
 post it here  still have not  done so.

 They say the butcher backed into his meat cutter  got a little behind in
 his work. I empathize.


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Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign

That is what it SHOULD say, but it does not.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 30, 2013, at 09:15 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 The sign, however, seems to contain a message from the 30 year old to
 the 42 year old.  That doesn't make sense to me.


 Yes, that's correct.

 Here, old me.  These are eggs from the young me.  Enjoy

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PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Eactivist

Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I 
remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR, 
because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So only 
used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at 
f/6.3.

Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the 
deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
with 
some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if 
you think  so too.

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  


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Re: PESO: Waiting

Indeed.  Thanks for looking, Don.
Dan Matyola
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 It is a keep your head down and stay connected world.


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 In the waiting room, Penn Station, Newark, NJ
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17398639
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Re: PESO: Riding High

Thanks, BNruce.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 That can happen if you receive a kit without the instructions. I
 wonder if he put the seat on the downtube?

 Good panning, Dan.

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I found this gentleman circling the track before the Tour Of
 Somerville bike races Monday:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396332
 Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Walter Hamler

I like it!  Looks much better. Great shot.

Walt

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
 remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
 because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So 
 only
 used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
 f/6.3.

 Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
 deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
 with
 some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

 http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

 I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
 you think  so too.

 Comments welcome.

 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Alan C

A really spectacular shot. And so sharp too.

Alan C

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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So 
only

used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
f/6.3.

Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
with

some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
you think  so too.

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: OT: Flash enablement

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:53:24PM -0500, Walt wrote:
 
 When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching
 tutorials on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially
 said, This is where you can use flash to get this lighting effect.
 There was no nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though
 TTL were completely reliable, which I gather isn't really the case.
 So, I was wondering where I might be able to learn more about
 shooting manual flash in the event the TTL function fails me --
 something to give me an idea of when to adjust the flash output
 power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide numbers,
 flash modes, or anything like that.
 
 Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated.

Light, Science and Magic.

The difference between a flash and a hot light is how long that they are on for.

The flash is a short, small, intense light source.  You don't have a lot
of control over duration (the lower the power the shorter the duration)
but there are a lot of widgets to help you control where it goes, or make
the source of light larger (diffusers). 

A few inexpensive investments you'll want to make.

LinkDelight has a hot shoe extension cord for something like $10.  That will
reliably get the flash off your camera.

You'll want to get some amber or cto gel, and maybe a holder so that if 
you are just using the flash for fill indoors, and still use a lot of
tungsten light, you won't end up with blue subjects or straw colored 
backgrounds.

You will also want to make some snoots and grids so that you can put a small 
tight spot of light exactly where you want it, and not illuminate the 
background.

Make the inverse square law your friend.  If you have the flash much closer to
your subject than to the background, you can make an ugly background go away
because it will be so many stops under exposed compared to your subject.


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Re: OT: Flash enablement

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist

TTL doesn't work on the latest Pentax digital cameras. I think it went away
after K10, but I'm not sure. PTTL is the later version of through the lens auto
control, and it works to a certain extent. Combined with a flash compensation
setting, which your flash probably has, it can work quite well. Flash
compensation simply dials the flash exposure to a point over or under the
ambient exposure. You'll almost always want to be under. I'm usually at -.5
stop or -1 stop, but that can vary with distance and the reflectivity of your
subject. Lots of practice will get you to a good place.

As others have mentioned, there are gizmos you can attach that will diffuse the
light. The very simple Omnibounce is a darn good one. It doesn't get in the
way, so you'll see it on the flashes of most PJs.

Off camera can be fine, particularly when you are using two flashes or more,
but I'd focus on mastering the on-camera stuff first. You can create the
illusion of off-camera just by bouncing the flash off something in the room.

Outdoor fill is a blessing when the sun doesn't shine where you'd like it to,
but with no ceiling or walls in the great outdoors, you'll find the power of
the flash is greatly compromised. To get good fill from ten feet or so on a
sunny day, you pretty much need direct flash, but dialing it down with the comp
switch is still a good idea. The light from the flash probably won't reach a
-.5 stop fill level anyway, but in case it does, your butt is covered.

Paul
On May 30, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks, Dave.

Now that you mention it, I recall someone (maybe Bruce) pointing me to
Lighting 101 at Strobist a while back as a place to start. In fact, I think
I even starred the email for future reference.

-- Walt

On 5/30/2013 1:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
This is a good place to staert:http://www.strobist.blogspot.ca/

After that just show up at Stenquest's place.

Dave

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
Oops. Not the right URL.

This one's better:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/dp/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

On 5/30/2013 12:53 PM, Walt wrote:
Well, a couple of weeks after my little financial windfall at work, I
finally decided I should use some of the money to join the flash
photography
world. So, I went down to the local brick-and-mortar camera shop in town
and
picked up this:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching tutorials
on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially said, This is
where you can use flash to get this lighting effect. There was no
nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though TTL were completely
reliable, which I gather isn't really the case. So, I was wondering where I
might be able to learn more about shooting manual flash in the event the
TTL
function fails me -- something to give me an idea of when to adjust the
flash output power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide
numbers, flash modes, or anything like that.

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be
appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

Marnie,
Much better and very nice too.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
 remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
 because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So 
 only
 used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
 f/6.3.

 Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
 deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
 with
 some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

 http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

 I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
 you think  so too.

 Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

I really like that one, Marnie. Gorgeous light; great results.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
 remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
 because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So 
 only
 used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
 f/6.3.

 Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
 deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
 with
 some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

 http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

 I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
 you think  so too.

 Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander

Paul,
Like Dan says, good, strong portrait.  Good eyes and good expression.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I keep going back to this pic of a lady food truck boss. I don't know if it's 
 the twinkle in her eyes or the smile that spreads fully arose her face, but I 
 find her most appealing.

 Shit with K-5, DA* 60-250/4 and the 560 flash at -.5.

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Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?

2013-05-30 Thread Darren Addy

I think that there are fewer bad lenses than there are lenses used badly.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eeuw, why would you want non-coated glass.
 Flare, internal reflections, veiling flare.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 Refer to:

 http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/zooms/_non-SMC/index.html

 Note there is no SMC prefix. They may be optically the same.

 Alan C

 John Francis wrote:

 Are you sure you meant to put that qualifier there?

 AFAIK the F line (effectively the first auto-focus series)
 had multi-coating, just like the earlier M and A lenses,
 and the subsequent FA lenses.  The difference between the
 F and the FA lenses is mostly in the information that is
 transmitted over the digital signal pin; while the exact
 details escape me now I think it might be that the FA
 lenses also tell the camera the focus distance the lens is
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Re: OT: Flash enablement

Advice #1: practice with it as much as you can, before you need it for
real. Setup a test subject and try shooting it with the flash at
different angles, heights and distances from the subject to see the
effect.

Try P-TTL to see how it behaves. It may work attached to the camera
but not wirelessly, or it may work fine both ways, or it may not work
at all. When using it wirelessly be sure to disable the K-5's pop-up
flash firing in the custom configs or you'll get very confusing
results. The pop-up flash should fire to control the wireless flash
but not to contribute light to the scene. P-TTL exposure is dependent
on light reflected from your scene so it will vary wildly depending on
how much reflection happens, and from where. That's one reason why it
can be completely wrong and give terrible results.

Then test fully manual operation. Initially you can ball-park the
settings according to that cheat-sheet I sent you earlier. In M mode
on the K-5, set your shutter to 125th or 160th sec, ISO 100. Then for
example, if you set the flash 6-8 feet away from the subject at 1/4
power you should be at about f:8 on the K-5.

Try bounced light too. Think pool or billiards. Point the flash
upwards behind you to where the wall meets the ceiling. This will
create a huge umbrella effect. It will also increase the distance from
the flash to the subject(s), so you'll have to crank the power up, or
the ISO up, or open the aperture more to compensate. (I find that
P-TTL works well used in this way, in general.)

Note that the shutter has no effect on your exposure from the flash,
so keep it at 160th for this.

Cheat sheet:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/FlashCalculator.jpg

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, a couple of weeks after my little financial windfall at work, I
finally decided I should use some of the money to join the flash photography
world. So, I went down to the local brick-and-mortar camera shop in town and
picked up this:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think that there are fewer bad lenses than there are lenses used badly.

MARK! Sadly, he's out of range.

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Paul Stenquist

Excellent! The only thing I might recommend is a wee bit of counterclockwise 
rotation to straighten the midpoint vertical and flatten the horizon line.

Paul
On May 30, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really like that one, Marnie. Gorgeous light; great results.
 
 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
 remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
 because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So 
 only
 used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
 f/6.3.
 
 Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
 deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
 with
 some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.
 
 http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm
 
 I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
 you think  so too.
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 
 
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Re: OT: Flash enablement


On 5/30/2013 1:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:53:24PM -0500, Walt wrote:

When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching
tutorials on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially
said, This is where you can use flash to get this lighting effect.
There was no nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though
TTL were completely reliable, which I gather isn't really the case.
So, I was wondering where I might be able to learn more about
shooting manual flash in the event the TTL function fails me --
something to give me an idea of when to adjust the flash output
power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide numbers,
flash modes, or anything like that.

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated.

Light, Science and Magic.

The difference between a flash and a hot light is how long that they are on for.

The flash is a short, small, intense light source.  You don't have a lot
of control over duration (the lower the power the shorter the duration)
but there are a lot of widgets to help you control where it goes, or make
the source of light larger (diffusers).

A few inexpensive investments you'll want to make.

LinkDelight has a hot shoe extension cord for something like $10.  That will
reliably get the flash off your camera.

You'll want to get some amber or cto gel, and maybe a holder so that if
you are just using the flash for fill indoors, and still use a lot of
tungsten light, you won't end up with blue subjects or straw colored 
backgrounds.

You will also want to make some snoots and grids so that you can put a small
tight spot of light exactly where you want it, and not illuminate the 
background.

Make the inverse square law your friend.  If you have the flash much closer to
your subject than to the background, you can make an ugly background go away
because it will be so many stops under exposed compared to your subject.


Thanks for the tips, Larry.

I googled some DIY snoots and grids and found some pretty 
excellent-looking plans to make them on the cheap and will look into the 
hot shoe extension cord next time I find myself at the camera shop.


As an aside, I'm supposed to meet with a guy next week to maybe pick up 
some old Pentax lenses, filters and other gear for what sounds like a 
potentially great deal. I may be able to fill in quite a few gaps in my 
gear bag if the opportunity lives up to billing.


I'm not sure what all he has, but he says he thinks I'll really like it 
for the price. We shall see.


I've been practicing the inverse square law a little and am starting to 
get a little bit of a handle on it.


Thanks again,

Walt

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Re: OT: Flash enablement

Thanks, Paul.

The flash is PTTL -- I just typed it incorrectly, and it does have flash
compensation. The unit came with a diffuser and I picked up an
Omnibounce while I was at the camera shop.

As for practicing on-camera first, being a babe in the woods on this,
that was the plan. I also picked up a 5-in-1 reflector set and plan to
incorporate/commandeer my niece into helping me use that, as well as
practice using the shoot-through screen with the flash in wireless mode
to see how that works in the next week, or so. (A friend wants me to do
family portraits for her on June 9, which is what lit the fire under me
to get this new gear).

I really wish I'd had the flash unit when I did the photo shoot with
LeeAnn a few weeks back. I did my best to minimize the shadows, but it
just wasn't enough. So, I lost quite a few shots that would've been nice
otherwise.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll see if I can put it to reasonably good
use in a couple of weeks.

-- Walt

On 5/30/2013 2:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Paul
On May 30, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks, Dave.

Now that you mention it, I recall someone (maybe Bruce) pointing me to Lighting 101 at
Strobist a while back as a place to start. In fact, I think I even starred the email
for future reference.

-- Walt

On 5/30/2013 1:01 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

This is a good place to staert:http://www.strobist.blogspot.ca/

After that just show up at Stenquest's place.

Dave

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Oops. Not the right URL.

This one's better:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/dp/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

On 5/30/2013 12:53 PM, Walt wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be
appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO - Tree Swallow


Nice capture, well composed.

So knarF does birds. the kind with wings.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO - Tree Swallow


Excuse the banal (if descriptive) title. Also excuse the fact that it's 
yet another tree swallow. However I really like them; I think they're 
beautiful and I love their colour. They are plentiful down at the lake and 
they sit still long enough early morning (not so much during the day) that 
I can often get a decent shot.


I'd never really seen them until we moved here a few years ago so I guess 
they're still a novelty to me.


Finally, the light was quite nice this morning and I think it really 
showed off the irredescent blue nicely.


So, after all that:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/tree-swallow.html?m=1

In other exciting news I saw several turkey vultures soaring high above 
me. Got some shots but with only a 200mm they're awfully small on the 
screen. Might be able to do something with them. We'll see.


Anyway, hope you like this little swallow. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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spontaneity. -- Henri Cartier-Bresson



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Re: OT: Flash enablement

Many thanks, Bruce.

I haven't tinkered with it quite a bit, but have done a few bounce-flash
shots just to see the effects and have been pleasantly surprised with
the results.

WRT to disabling the pop-up flash when using it wirelessly, I gather
that means to set to fire as the controller rather than the master in
the custom settings?

Also, thanks again for the cheat sheet. I've got it printed out and will
laminate it when I go back to work. I'm really looking forward to seeing
what kind of shots I can get at the club with this new enablement. I'm
also looking forward to getting more use out of my K20D with it, too.

I was surprised the unit didn't come with a tripod mount adapter, but
instead came with a cheapo plastic stand, which strikes me as
essentially useless in most situations. I may just run down to the farm
supply store and get some good, strong Velcro strips to stick it onto
the tripod instead.

Thanks again for all the tips and advice, Bruce! I hope to get some
decent PESOs soon and maybe pick the collective PDML brain to see what
I'm doing wrong and right.

-- Walt

On 5/30/2013 2:12 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Note that the shutter has no effect on your exposure from the flash,
so keep it at 160th for this.

Cheat sheet:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/FlashCalculator.jpg

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz

Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Jack Davis

Yes, it is more successful. Obviously due to more of the structure being lit up.
As had been mentioned, this is what appeared to be missing on the earlier 
shots. Assuming I saw them all.

Jack 

From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
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Subject: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I 
remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR, 
because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So only 
used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at 
f/6.3.

Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the 
deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
with 
some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if 
you think  so too.

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  

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Re: PESO - Tree Swallow

2013-05-30 Thread Darren Addy

That's very pretty and very sharp!

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:52 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Nice capture, well composed.

 So knarF does birds. the kind with wings.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller


 - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Tree Swallow


 Excuse the banal (if descriptive) title. Also excuse the fact that it's
 yet another tree swallow. However I really like them; I think they're
 beautiful and I love their colour. They are plentiful down at the lake and
 they sit still long enough early morning (not so much during the day) that I
 can often get a decent shot.

 I'd never really seen them until we moved here a few years ago so I guess
 they're still a novelty to me.

 Finally, the light was quite nice this morning and I think it really
 showed off the irredescent blue nicely.

 So, after all that:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/tree-swallow.html?m=1

 In other exciting news I saw several turkey vultures soaring high above
 me. Got some shots but with only a 200mm they're awfully small on the
 screen. Might be able to do something with them. We'll see.

 Anyway, hope you like this little swallow. Comments always welcome.

 Cheers,
 frank

 For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and
 spontaneity. -- Henri Cartier-Bresson



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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

Yeah, I'd be happy with that shot, Marnie. I'd say you have it down 
pretty well. :)


-- Walt


On 5/30/2013 1:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So only
used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
f/6.3.

Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
with
some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
you think  so too.

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe :-)





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Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?

2013-05-30 Thread Steve Sharpe


At 2:12 PM -0500 5/30/13, Darren Addy wrote:

I think that there are fewer bad lenses than there are lenses used badly.


Mark!

Thanks for everyone's words of wisdom.

When all is said and done, I've decided to forego the 70-200 and 
stick with my Vivitar Series 1 70-210, and to give my FA 100-300 
F4.5-5.6 another chance.



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Re: PESO: Waiting

2013-05-30 Thread Alan C


Bit of history there - The PRR decal on the side of the bench.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel J. Matyola

Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:09 PM
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Subject: PESO: Waiting

In the waiting room, Penn Station, Newark, NJ
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17398639
Comments are invited

Dan Matyola
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Re: Car Show

Nice collection, regardless of the camera issues!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com

Subject: Car Show

There was a small car show down at the park today.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/cars1/index.html

Shot with the X-Pro 1 and 35/1.4.
Things I am learning about the Fuji:
I have some trouble with framing for some reason. I tend to put my 
subjects high in the viewfinder and somewhat offset. Every picture in this 
gallery is cropped to some extent. With my Pentax SLRs, I rarely crop.

It's easy to miss setting the ISO (all shots at 3200).
Using the camera in full program is dead easy, moving the focus point 
around is simple, more or less as easy as on the K5, not as good as the 
K7. The zoomable focus point is cool.
The optical viewfinder is lovely, the EVF, not so much. There is a button 
that turns on the LCD and puts the camera into an adjustment mode. It's 
too easy to hit. At the same time, it's fast to get at, I can live with 
the compromise.
One thing that is too easy to get at, and hit by accident, is the exposure 
comp dial. It has solid detents, but I almost think it could use a lock.
It would also be nice to be able to lock the lens into the A position. No 
such need for the shutter speed dial, it's almost too hard to turn.
Overall, I am enjoying the thing very much indeed. I almost went out 
yesterday and bought the 14/2.8, but work kept me longer than expected and 
I didn't have time to get to the pusher. So it goes.
I want the 14, and there is, apparently, a 56mm f/1.2 coming out, which I 
am very excited about (though I don't want to know what it's going to cost 
me, the Fuji glass is quite expensive).

anyway, enjoy my little gallery, and comments are joyfully accepted.

bill

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Re: Custer County Supercell


Great capture!

Location, location, location.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO: Custer County Supercell



Had a fun little backyard chase in Custer County (the county north
and west of my home county of Buffalo). I walked out of a hardware
store and saw what appeared to be an atom bomb that had gone off to my
northwest. I checked radar on my iPad to see how far away it was
(distances can be deceiving out here on the plains). To my surprise it
wasn't even showing (yet) on radar. As luck would have it it was
exactly midway between two radar stations and so (due to the curvature
of the earth) had to get very tall before it was seen by either one).
As luck would have it, it was only about an hour's drive. When I
caught up to it, I found a very pretty little low precipitation (LP)
supercell. It was a slow mover and this is what it looked like a
couple of hours later, just east of the hamlet of Westerville,
Nebraska.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8850051008/

Hope you enjoy it.

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Re: How to clean an add-on lens?


Maybe some ethyl-based hand sanitizer?

On 5/30/2013 10:58 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

Goo remover? Goo-Be-Gone is the name I think.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 18:24:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org
To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: How to clean an add-on lens?
Message-ID:201305292224.r4tmolb4061...@trantor.komkon.org



Argh!..
Today, I pulled an old add-on x2 close-up lens (attaches as a filter),
just to realize that the foam that came with it is all melted.
After sitting for a few years in ambience, in the closet (in hot Texas),
a piece of foam that used to cushion and prop the lens inside the box
sort of melted and left a glue-like residue on the lens.

Any ideas on what I can use to remove that residue?
Just a lens cleaning paper wouldn't work... What type of cleaning 
solution

(solvent?) can be used?

Thank you,






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Re: OT: Flash enablement

Walt, what's the setting for the upcoming portrait shoot expected to be?

Indoors and outdoors generally call for different flash practices. Eg:
indoors you can ignore the ambient light and use the flash to supply
all, but outdoors you would usually mix the flash with the ambient;
eg: backlit by sun, filled in front with flash. Of course there are
exceptions. You can mix indoor ambient light in to get the background
and that nice warm room look, but then you have to worry about colour
temperature of mixed sources and gelling to match, as well as dragging
the shutter.

You're going to get lots of advice, much of it contradictory. :-) Just
try to narrow down what you need to learn as much as possible because
you simply aren't going to master the _whole_ lighting thing before
June 9. Possibly not even in one lifetime.

For me, the key to good female portraiture is soft light. You have to
flatter your subject. So you must master modifying the hard light from
the flash to become a large source. Like bouncing off walls 
ceilings, shooting through the 5-in-1 scrim, or bouncing it off the
white or silver reflector.

Here's an eg: with the flash mounted on-camera, have your assistant
stand behind you a couple of feet, to one side of you, holding the
silver reflector facing the subject's face, a little above her head
height. Assistant might have to stand on a chair if she's short or
hold the reflector above her head. Swivel your flash head to point at
the reflector and shoot from there. The light should bounce off the
reflector and appear to the subject as a circular 42 inch source. That
will give a good catch-light and provide soft, off-center light on
your subject's face.

Don't forget to play with your flash'es zoom feature. It can go from
wide to quite narrow and focussed, which also extends its reach when
bouncing off things.


BTW, if you are looking for video tutorials to watch, there are
zillions (much of it crap), but I find the Mark Wallace / Adorama ones
to be consistently good at Flash 101.
http://www.adorama.com/alc/ and Youtube.


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Paul.

 The flash is PTTL -- I just typed it incorrectly, and it does have flash
 compensation. The unit came with a diffuser and I picked up an Omnibounce
 while I was at the camera shop.

 As for practicing on-camera first, being a babe in the woods on this, that
 was the plan. I also picked up a 5-in-1 reflector set and plan to
 incorporate/commandeer my niece into helping me use that, as well as
 practice using the shoot-through screen with the flash in wireless mode to
 see how that works in the next week, or so. (A friend wants me to do family
 portraits for her on June 9, which is what lit the fire under me to get this
 new gear).

 I really wish I'd had the flash unit when I did the photo shoot with LeeAnn
 a few weeks back. I did my best to minimize the shadows, but it just wasn't
 enough. So, I lost quite a few shots that would've been nice otherwise.

 Thanks for all the advice. I'll see if I can put it to reasonably good use
 in a couple of weeks.

 -- Walt


 On 5/30/2013 2:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 TTL doesn't work on the latest Pentax digital cameras. I think it went
 away after K10, but I'm not sure. PTTL is the later version of through the
 lens auto control, and it works to a certain extent. Combined with a flash
 compensation setting, which your flash probably has, it can work quite well.
 Flash compensation simply dials the flash exposure to a point over or under
 the ambient exposure. You'll almost always want to be under. I'm usually at
 -.5 stop or -1 stop, but that can vary with distance and the reflectivity of
 your subject. Lots of practice will get you to a good place.

 As others have mentioned, there are gizmos you can attach that will
 diffuse the light. The very simple Omnibounce is a darn good one. It doesn't
 get in the way, so you'll see it on the flashes of most PJs.

 Off camera can be fine, particularly when you are using two flashes or
 more, but I'd focus on mastering the on-camera stuff first. You can create
 the illusion of off-camera just by bouncing the flash off something in the
 room.

 Outdoor fill is a blessing when the sun doesn't shine where you'd like it
 to, but with no ceiling or walls in the great outdoors, you'll find the
 power of the flash is greatly compromised. To get good fill from ten feet or
 so on a sunny day, you pretty much need direct flash, but dialing it down
 with the comp switch is still a good idea. The light from the flash
 probably won't reach a -.5 stop fill level anyway, but in case it does, your
 butt is covered.

 Paul
 On May 30, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Dave.

 Now that  you mention it, I recall someone (maybe Bruce) pointing me to
 Lighting 101 at Strobist a while back as a place to start. In fact, I
 think I even starred the email for future reference.

 -- Walt

 On 5/30/2013 1:01 PM,

Re: Memorial Day Memories

Walt and all other military vets, especially 'merican - thanks for your 
service, sacrifice  dedication.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com

Subject: OT: Memorial Day Memories



I put this on my Facebook page after reminiscing over years gone bye
so quickly!!
http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_xdtsCW#!i=2538444367k=mXDcJmPlb=1s=X2

Walt



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Re: OT: Flash enablement

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 03:12:08PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 Try bounced light too. Think pool or billiards. Point the flash
 upwards behind you to where the wall meets the ceiling. This will
 create a huge umbrella effect. It will also increase the distance from
 the flash to the subject(s), so you'll have to crank the power up, or
 the ISO up, or open the aperture more to compensate. (I find that
 P-TTL works well used in this way, in general.)
 
 Note that the shutter has no effect on your exposure from the flash,
 so keep it at 160th for this.

In manual mode, use the aperture to control the exposure from the flash,
and the shutter speed to control the exposure from ambient light.


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Re: OT: Flash enablement

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Many thanks, Bruce.

 WRT to disabling the pop-up flash when using it wirelessly, I gather that
 means to set to fire as the controller rather than the master in the custom
 settings?

Yes, exactly: set camera flash as Controller.


 I was surprised the unit didn't come with a tripod mount adapter, but
 instead came with a cheapo plastic stand, which strikes me as essentially
 useless in most situations. I may just run down to the farm supply store and
 get some good, strong Velcro strips to stick it onto the tripod instead.

Don't dismiss that cheap stand. Set to wireless and placed on top of a
bookcase firing at the ceiling  it can cover a large room. I did a
shoot in a recording studio with one of those on its 50-cent stand and
it worked great.

Flashes don't come with adapters because there are so many. The one
you'll likely need soonest is the swivel umbrella mount. BTW, tripods
don't make great light stands because the legs get in the way and they
aren't tall enough.


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Re: OT: Flash enablement

For practicing your lighting, stuffed animals make great
models.  They have a lot of the same contours to their features
as people, but don't mind sitting still for minutes, or even 
hours as you fiddle with the lights.

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Re: VESO - Simon and Debs Wedding

Nice work ! Sure seemed like a happy bunch or was it the bubbly?

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: VESO - Simon and Debs Wedding

At the risk of boring anyone to tears, Alma and I went to a friend's
wedding on Saturday and I shot a load of stuff on video for them (yet to
edit!) but managed to grab some candids. Tried to avoid doing whatever
the official snapper was doing, here are some results. Note you can
speed through very easily. Venue is the Cherwell Boat House, Oxford, and
yes that is a mark 2 jaguar and yes the location has been used in
Inspector Morse!

http://cottycam.posthaven.com/simon-and-debs-wedding-oxford-may-2013

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Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Robinson

On May 30, 2013, at 13:43 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is what it SHOULD say, but it does not.
 
 Dan Matyola
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 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 30, 2013, at 09:15 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The sign, however, seems to contain a message from the 30 year old to
 the 42 year old.  That doesn't make sense to me.
 
 
 Yes, that's correct.
 
 Here, old me.  These are eggs from the young me.  Enjoy
 

TO: Emma (Age 42) 
FROM: Emma (Age 30)

Says precisely that (sans the colons, of course).  A message from the 
30-year-old to the 42-year-old.

Am I way off base?  

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

Oh yeah now we're talking. I hope you feel great satisfaction in 
reaching a point we had no doubt you would achieve.

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Went back and tried night shooting the oil  refinery again. This time I
remembered to turn off the IS and shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
because only two of the shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. So only
used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) at
f/6.3.

Not trying again (right now), because this  is a photo class and the
deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I  may try it again later 
with
some other industrial plants, for myself. Play  around with it.

http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

I  think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
you think  so too.

Comments welcome.

Marnie aka Doe:-)

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Re: OT: Flash enablement


On 5/30/2013 3:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Yes, exactly: set camera flash as Controller.
Thanks. The terminology is a little confusing to the uninitiated -- and 
that'd be me.



Don't dismiss that cheap stand. Set to wireless and placed on top of a
bookcase firing at the ceiling  it can cover a large room. I did a
shoot in a recording studio with one of those on its 50-cent stand and
it worked great.
Hmm. Now that you mention it, I could get some good use out of it at 
work, just setting it on a table behind the bar.



Flashes don't come with adapters because there are so many. The one
you'll likely need soonest is the swivel umbrella mount. BTW, tripods
don't make great light stands because the legs get in the way and they
aren't tall enough.


Yeah, I was eyeballing an umbrella stand a softbox at the camera shop yesterday, but 
decided to hold off 'til I learn how to use the flash itself. I can always get one 
later, and in the meantime, I figure I can jury-rig something with the shoot-through 
screen in my 5-in-1 kit to get a reasonably similar effect. I figure at 42, I 
ought to be able to get some pretty soft light, if not quite as effective as the 
umbrella/softbox. As for the tripod not being that good a light stand, that makes 
sense.

Thanks again!

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Re: OT: Flash enablement


On 5/30/2013 3:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

For practicing your lighting, stuffed animals make great
models.  They have a lot of the same contours to their features
as people, but don't mind sitting still for minutes, or even
hours as you fiddle with the lights.

Thanks, Larry. I do have access to all manner of stuffed animals that 
are infinitely more cooperative than their young owners. I'll have to 
put them to use for something other than living room debris.


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Re: OT: Flash enablement


On 5/30/2013 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Here's an eg: with the flash mounted on-camera, have your assistant
stand behind you a couple of feet, to one side of you, holding the
silver reflector facing the subject's face, a little above her head
height. Assistant might have to stand on a chair if she's short or
hold the reflector above her head. Swivel your flash head to point at
the reflector and shoot from there. The light should bounce off the
reflector and appear to the subject as a circular 42 inch source. That
will give a good catch-light and provide soft, off-center light on
your subject's face.

Don't forget to play with your flash'es zoom feature. It can go from
wide to quite narrow and focussed, which also extends its reach when
bouncing off things.
Ah! I wondered what the zoom feature meant and how it worked. That makes 
sense.



BTW, if you are looking for video tutorials to watch, there are
zillions (much of it crap), but I find the Mark Wallace / Adorama ones
to be consistently good at Flash 101.
http://www.adorama.com/alc/  and Youtube.
I watched one of his videos last night and it was a lot better than any 
of the others I saw. Obviously, being a Pentaxian has its downsides and 
this is one of those cases, since his tutorial was Canon/Nikon-centric 
(as were all the others). The one I just started watching demonstrates 
the difference in the way Canon and Nikon handle ambient light in 
combination with flash. But, based on what I can tell, Pentax apparently 
uses shutter speed to control ambient light (like Nikon) while Canon 
uses exposure compensation.


Out of curiosity, though, would I have to use it in manual mode, or 
could I accomplish it in TAv as well?


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Re: PESO -- Country Christmas Tree

I think your email client is breaking the URL into two pieces and 
passing only first part onto your browser.  Try copying and pasting the 
two parts into the address bar...


On 5/30/2013 10:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Error (503)

Something went wrong. Don't worry, your files are still safe and the
Dropboxers have been notified. Check out our Help Center and forums
for help, or head back to home. 
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:05 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

Now that summer's almost here, it's time to process some images from mid
winter...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20countrychristmastree.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

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Re: OT: Flash enablement

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 I watched one of his videos last night and it was a lot better than any of
 the others I saw. Obviously, being a Pentaxian has its downsides and this is
 one of those cases, since his tutorial was Canon/Nikon-centric (as were all
 the others). The one I just started watching demonstrates the difference in
 the way Canon and Nikon handle ambient light in combination with flash. But,
 based on what I can tell, Pentax apparently uses shutter speed to control
 ambient light (like Nikon) while Canon uses exposure compensation.

 Out of curiosity, though, would I have to use it in manual mode, or could I
 accomplish it in TAv as well?

I've never tried P-TTL with TAv. I have my doubts about how well that
would work. I've mostly stuck to either Av and P-TTL _or_ M and manual
flash. In fact I prefer the latter. The Strobist has a tutorial on
mixing ambient and flash using Av mode. It makes complete sense and
should work well, but it will be like juggling and balancing a
basketball on your head at the same time. :-)

The great thing about the shutter speed is (as long as its under your
flash sync speed [160th]) it's decoupled from your flash exposure so,
as Larry said, you can set the ambient exposure via shutter speed and
the flash exposure via aperture. But this is also the bad thing
because now you are controlling two different exposures at the same
time which means measuring two exposures and getting them right. Just
go slow and methodical or you'll go crazy.

Oh yeah, all the while this is going on your subject will be standing
there wondering if you're ever going to pay some attention to her. She
may be tapping her foot. Bad sign. :-)

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Re: OT: Flash enablement

2013-05-30 Thread John Francis

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 03:56:54PM -0500, Walt wrote:

 Thanks, Larry. I do have access to all manner of stuffed animals
 that are infinitely more cooperative than their young owners. I'll
 have to put them to use for something other than living room debris.

The animals, the owners, or both?


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Get your rocks off

2013-05-30 Thread Steve Cottrell

On topic as well!

Camera porn ;-)

http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/#15

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Re: OT: Flash enablement


On 5/30/2013 4:28 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

I watched one of his videos last night and it was a lot better than any of
the others I saw. Obviously, being a Pentaxian has its downsides and this is
one of those cases, since his tutorial was Canon/Nikon-centric (as were all
the others). The one I just started watching demonstrates the difference in
the way Canon and Nikon handle ambient light in combination with flash. But,
based on what I can tell, Pentax apparently uses shutter speed to control
ambient light (like Nikon) while Canon uses exposure compensation.

Out of curiosity, though, would I have to use it in manual mode, or could I
accomplish it in TAv as well?

I've never tried P-TTL with TAv. I have my doubts about how well that
would work. I've mostly stuck to either Av and P-TTL _or_ M and manual
flash. In fact I prefer the latter. The Strobist has a tutorial on
mixing ambient and flash using Av mode. It makes complete sense and
should work well, but it will be like juggling and balancing a
basketball on your head at the same time. :-)

Ha! That's my morning routine before coffee.


The great thing about the shutter speed is (as long as its under your
flash sync speed [160th]) it's decoupled from your flash exposure so,
as Larry said, you can set the ambient exposure via shutter speed and
the flash exposure via aperture. But this is also the bad thing
because now you are controlling two different exposures at the same
time which means measuring two exposures and getting them right. Just
go slow and methodical or you'll go crazy.
I have a feeling it's going to be slow and methodical for a while, 
anyway. Though, I have to say I actually like the idea of controlling 
two different exposures. There have been times when I've used exposure 
to knock down ugly backgrounds at the expense of the subject in the 
foreground, and the ability to control both sounds appealing to me, even 
if it does require a bit of a juggling and balancing act to get it 
right. Between that and getting more familiar with the inverse square 
law, I can see where I'll be able to get a lot of shots I would have 
foregone (or simply rolled the dice on) in the past.



Oh yeah, all the while this is going on your subject will be standing
there wondering if you're ever going to pay some attention to her. She
may be tapping her foot. Bad sign. :-)

Well, maybe if I offered to make it up to her after the shoot . . . ?

-- Walt



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Re: OT: Flash enablement


On 5/30/2013 4:52 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 03:56:54PM -0500, Walt wrote:

Thanks, Larry. I do have access to all manner of stuffed animals
that are infinitely more cooperative than their young owners. I'll
have to put them to use for something other than living room debris.

The animals, the owners, or both?

I've tried with the owners before and concluded that it's unworkable for 
at least another 30 years.


-- Walt

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Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander

2013-05-30 Thread Steve Cottrell

On 29/5/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Shit with K-5, DA* 60-250/4 and the 560 flash at -.5.

Well dammit Paul try a K-7.

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Re: Get your rocks off


That was quite cool.

Also, I'm tempted to start a tumblr account of my own. I kind of like 
the layout.


-- walt

On 5/30/2013 4:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On topic as well!

Camera porn ;-)

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Re: VESO - Simon and Debs Wedding

2013-05-30 Thread Steve Cottrell

On 30/5/13, kwal...@peoplepc.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice work ! Sure seemed like a happy bunch or was it the bubbly?

Just Brits mate ;-)

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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III

2013-05-30 Thread Eactivist

Thanks Walt, Alan, Bob, Walt, Bruce, and  shark.

Jack -- Think it's about the same number of lights as before  (though I did 
stay 15 minutes later). Just a wider f stop and longer exposure.  Made all 
the difference. Well, IS was off too, which also helped.

Paul --  You've got a good eye. Hadn't noticed. I will definitely try some 
minimal  rotation. 

Thanks guys.

Marnie aka Doe :-) Happy.

In a  message dated 5/30/2013 11:57:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
hamlerwal...@gmail.com writes:
I like it!  Looks much better. Great  shot.

Walt

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM,   eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Went back and tried night shooting the  oil  refinery again. This time I
 remembered to turn off the IS and  shot with  bracketing. This is not HDR,
 because only two of the  shots in my three brackets  came out semi-okay. 
So only
 used one.  This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure  how LR notes this) 
at
  f/6.3.

 Not trying again (right now), because this  is a  photo class and the
 deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing  I  may try it again 
later with
 some other industrial plants, for  myself. Play  around with it.

  http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm

 I  think this  is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if
 you  think  so too.

 Comments welcome.

 Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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Re: K5 focus screen - user changable?

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:06:09AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote:
 All top of the line models have interchangeable screens.

As does the K100 and K-x (which use the same focusing screen).

 
 
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Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3

2013-05-30 Thread Bob W

Throw him in the river. If he sinks, he's the real Chris Mitchell. If he 
floats, he's a witch and we burn him.

B

On 30 May 2013, at 10:18, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do we know you are The Real Chris Mitchell?
 
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 chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 After several days of PDML silence and lack of response from my ISP (I
 assume that they've got some sort of spam filter issue), I've rejoined
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 Am I getting through?
 
 

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Re: OT: Flash enablement