Re: PESO: One more sign

2013-08-11 Thread David Mann
On Aug 10, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

 I have, however, seen collectors taking specimens from the radiators of cars 
 at filling stations on highways.

I often see sparrows in car parks cleaning bugs out the grilles of cars.  I 
don't think they'd touch the butterflies though, I think many are poisonous.

Cheers,
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Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?

2013-08-11 Thread David Mann
On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

 It's very little time to do this stuff since everything is automated. I 
 worked out the policy and mechanisms five or six years back, it's been 
 running the same ever since although I've upgraded drives and computers since 
 several times. 

This makes me wonder how many of us with comprehensive backups have actually 
had a drive fail so you need to restore the data?  Or is there some variation 
of Murphy's Law that says you'll only experience problems when you have no 
backup, or worse, when you thought your backup was good...

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Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?

2013-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:15 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 
 It's very little time to do this stuff since everything is automated. I 
 worked out the policy and mechanisms five or six years back, it's been 
 running the same ever since although I've upgraded drives and computers 
 since several times. 
 
 This makes me wonder how many of us with comprehensive backups have actually 
 had a drive fail so you need to restore the data?  Or is there some variation 
 of Murphy's Law that says you'll only experience problems when you have no 
 backup, or worse, when you thought your backup was good...

In the past dozen years, I've had three hard drives fail completely. One 
incited me to develop the backup policy and procedures. Two of them were after 
I instituted the backup policy and procedures. The second two were ten minutes 
work to recover from after acquiring a new drive. The first was ten days work. 

There's a reason I did this. And it works, perfectly, for my needs. 

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Re: PESO - Fallen

2013-08-11 Thread David Mann
Yes a nice photo, I like the colours.  I agree with Bob about the border.

One of our camellias has started to burst into flower but the waxeyes have been 
knocking some of the flowers off as they come in for nectar.

Cheers,
Dave

On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter,
 Lovely shot.
 I hate vignetting, but this seems to work OK.
 Maybe a bit wider/longer transition to black.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote:
 Strong winds here yesterday blew the first camelia off its stalk.
 
 http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/151750666
 
 Pentax K5, DA 21 f/3.2. Converted in PWP 7.0 64-bit.
 
 Comments most welcome.
 
 Ciao,
 
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PESO x2 from my weekend

2013-08-11 Thread David Mann
We went up to visit my father-in-law this weekend and the region managed to 
turn on some unexpected weather on Saturday, so we made the most of it.

Nice Day For A Paddle:
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/642/#peso

Kaiteriteri Beach:
http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/643/#peso

Both are cellphone pics and are completely unprocessed except for a slight crop 
of the second one to remove some foreground shadows.  I didn't even take the 
DSLR on this trip...

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Re: PESO - Eastbound

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:


Love it Brian, you certainly came back with a load of keepers from
this last trip, too many! :)



Lots of duds, too

Thanks for the comment.  One of my sons is a rail enthusiast and does  
excellent rail photography.  As he was the main organiser for our  
trip, it's not surprising that we seemed to find ourselves in areas  
where there were plenty of opportunities for rail photography.  In  
this case, I didn't mind too much! (actually, I didn't really mind in  
most cases...)


Thanks to everyone who commented or looked.

Bob W - not sure about the Alec Guinness reference; what am I missing?

Jack - pano framing was partly out of necessity. There was a  
particularly ugly fence in the foreground.


Bob S - glad to delight an old railroader!


Cheers

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On 9 August 2013 22:06, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National
Park:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html

A larger version is here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg

Comments, of course, always welcome.

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Re: PESO - At the Beach for the Apocalypse

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com:


http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso13.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.




Striking image and an interesting out-of focus background.  Looks a  
bit like a wave breaking but I guess it's a distant shoreline.



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Re: PESO - Fallen

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com:


Strong winds here yesterday blew the first camelia off its stalk.

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/151750666

Pentax K5, DA 21 f/3.2. Converted in PWP 7.0 64-bit.

Comments most welcome.



Really effective contrast between the flower and the old and fresh foliage.

I don't think the image is helped by the dark border, though.


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Re: couple more PESOs with the K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:


All with the 28mm M

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2690413570k=bDcbN3flb=1s=A

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2690412947k=pVFNcL2lb=1s=A

For this one - I've posted mainly to ask for plant ID.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2691169963k=3cn7VjPlb=1s=A

The window shot is on the upper east side.. maybe 78th and Madison  
or Lex .. It's a fun old place and I should know its name




I really like the shot of Coke bottles - even the window reflections  
don't detract.




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RE: PESO - Eastbound

2013-08-11 Thread Bob W
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters
[...]
 
 Thanks for the comment.  One of my sons is a rail enthusiast 
 and does excellent rail photography.  As he was the main 
 organiser for our trip, it's not surprising that we seemed to 
 find ourselves in areas where there were plenty of 
 opportunities for rail photography.  In this case, I didn't 
 mind too much! (actually, I didn't really mind in most cases...)
 
 Thanks to everyone who commented or looked.
 
 Bob W - not sure about the Alec Guinness reference; what am I missing?
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRHVMi3LxZE


[...]
 
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1
  peso.html
 
  A larger version is here:
 
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg
 


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Re: PESO - Eastbound

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:



Bob W - not sure about the Alec Guinness reference; what am I missing?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRHVMi3LxZE



Ah, yes.  Been decades since I saw that film.


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Re: More Italy!

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:


Getting a little bit abstract here:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/wall1.jpg




Wonderful contrasting colours but the shadows from the window bars  
make it a bit special.



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RE: A thought-provoking conversation on the death of snapshots

2013-08-11 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
 Sent: 11 August 2013 04:58
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 Subject: Re: A thought-provoking conversation on the death of 
 snapshots
 
 On 10/08/2013 12:44 PM, John wrote:
  I don't think snapshots have anything to do with best work.
 Cartier-Bresson, as brilliant a photographer as he was, was 
 little more than a snapshooter. If I am not mistaken, his 
 printing was done by a lab.
 

that doesn't make someone a snapshooter, and HCB was far from that. His
photos are rigorous in their timing and composition. His sense of geometry
is superb and his nose for the event was exceptional. He was trained in
composition and spent his life among great artists, and indeed is one of
them, so that it was part of his character and being. He was the very
antithesis of the snapshooter, at least as I understand the term, even if he
did take pictures quickly, and even if he was very self-deprecating, not to
say disparaging of photography at times.

 just sayin.
 
  They're memories we want (need?) to keep. The important 
 images aren't 
  even on the paper.
 
 Good photographs evoke some sort of memory in us. None of the 
 shit that is passed of as the rules, be it compositional or 
 technical, matter a whit if the image doesn't tap into an 
 emotional response of some sort. 
 What matters is does the image grab some part of you and hold 
 on to it.
 

Good, effective photography (or indeed any of the visual arts) are no
different from writing in that they depend for their effectiveness on some
sort of grammar. Good writing is not, by and large, just a random scattering
of words on a page, presented to the world without any kind of selection
process. It's a process of trying out different arrangements, then selecting
the ones you think have something to offer. Even someone like Pollock, who
relied to some extent on chance and randomness to produce his work, selected
what he showed to the world.

Analysis after the fact will tend to show that the most successful have
certain properties in common, and these properties tend to cluster around
the so-called rules. It follows from this that if you want to be successful
in whatever it is you're trying to do with your photos, or your writing, or
watercolours or elephant dung, you are more likely to be so if you use the
available grammar, or perhaps deliberately abuse it with malice
aforethought, depending on what you and your public thinks success is. 

Otherwise any success you may have is an accident and not something you can
hope to repeat except by chance.

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Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk

2013-08-11 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:46 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just don't put anything in the pockets you don't want to get beat all to shit.

Oh, I've got that.

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Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk

2013-08-11 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 9, 2013, at 3:18 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 on 2013-08-09 1:46 Eric Weir wrote
 Thanks, Steve. Experiment with the 50 yesterday convinced me that I at least 
 need to take the 28, maybe just the 28.
 
 50mm seems to work differently for different people; i don't use it for 
 portraits much, but still the angle of view seems to suit me

Very likely I'll be taking it, too. Very likely I'll find there are situations 
where I prefer it to the 28.

Something I just noticed: the A 28/2.8 is larger that the A 50/1.7. Why?

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Re: GESO - Ladies Zeppelin

2013-08-11 Thread Derby Chang


Love the set, Dario, especially Jemima Page on K5S17486x

I think they need a Johanna Paulina Jones on flute



On 8/08/2013 2:37 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:

Hi all,
Her you'll find a gallery of pics shot by me at a Summer concert (beer 
festival) of a Led Zeppelin all-female cover band.

This is the pic starting it all:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9460181190/in/photostream/
I quite like those pictures (some of them more than others, of 
course). Which pics would you pick as the good ones?

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Re: PESO - Fallen

2013-08-11 Thread Peter McIntosh
Thanks Brian, as well as Bob, Jack, Ann, Dan, Kenneth and Dave for
your feedback, and to everyone else who had a peek :-)

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

On 11 August 2013 17:41, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com:

 Strong winds here yesterday blew the first camelia off its stalk.

 http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/151750666

 Pentax K5, DA 21 f/3.2. Converted in PWP 7.0 64-bit.

 Comments most welcome.



 Really effective contrast between the flower and the old and fresh foliage.

 I don't think the image is helped by the dark border, though.


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Re: PESO - At the Beach for the Apocalypse

2013-08-11 Thread Derby Chang


Not normally a fan of tele street shots, but this one is superb. So 
dreamlike with that painterly bokeh.




On 11/08/2013 5:06 AM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso13.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - Anna, pronounced Ahna

2013-08-11 Thread Derby Chang


You sold me. I love the magenta tone. Sleek skirt; are there more to 
show off the fashion?




On 6/08/2013 4:43 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/46sU316B2da




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Re: August PUG -Sign of the Times - is up

2013-08-11 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 16:24:46 +0200 Alan C wrote:

Fine shots, interesting interpretations. Photographer's licence? I like The 
house that once was. Still seems to have CCTV surveillance!

Thanks Alan,


Looking at the full-size image, it seems to be a fixture for an electric 
lightbulb :-)

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GESOs - G.A.S.

2013-08-11 Thread Derby Chang


While it's always fun going out with new gear, I definitely notice a 
productivity hit when I do. Not that I'm complaining, trying new things 
is fun. I just come back with less bang per click.


The Aussie Dollar is on a slippery slope back to its natural place in 
the world, but there are still some local stockists holding inventory at 
bargain prices. The Sigma 35mm 1.4 is a very attractive looking lens. It 
has this odd thing where the focusing scale goes from 0.3m to 1m for 
most of the focus throw, and then a tiny movement from 1m to infinity. 
It isn't a macro, so I wonder why they did that. The Voigtlander 17.5 
0.95 does the same thing. Still, the HSM is really S, quieter than the 
Pentax SDM, I think.  Very well damped manual focusing feel. I like it 
much more than the just-ok 30mm 1.4. The next lenses in the Art series 
should prove interesting.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/sig35/index.html

And for a bit of retro, I picked up a pristine Minolta CLE. The wee 
bugger is beautiful, no wonder they didn't let it last long. It is a 
shame the shutter sound is rather loud; I was definitely clocked more 
than I normally am. On the last few rolls of Neopan too. Should do one 
more last time buy.


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Re: First experiments with IR adapted K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Derby Chang



Larry, the dance shots are great, your camera and no-light settings are 
perfect. The sushi shots, on the other hand, not so appertising


IR block filters are easy to come by, just ask your friendly Leica 
pusher. Not cheap, but easy. Ahem




On 11/08/2013 8:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Cutting to the chase:
A friend and I went out for sushi before going dancing.  There are some
strong artistic limitations to IR photography, the set also includes
a couple randoms from the afternoon:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635017858426/

This set was shot at Friday Night Blues.  The thing that got me into
IR in the first place was being able to use a flash without blinding
people, each shot is processed in both color and BW:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635011398151/

I got my K-5 back from Pro Camera Repair yesterday.  They repaired the broken
sensor, and converted it to (full spectrum) IR for $350, which is about $100
less than CRIS wanted to just repair it.

Most of my photos in the afternoon/evening were just of random things, because
I had no idea how anything would turn out.  I snuck out of the office, and ran
down to San Jose camera. They had a 77mm, Hoya IR filter for $109, which is
about what BH charges.  Meanwhile Keeble and Schuchat wanted something like
$240 for a 77mm IR filter.  Neither one had a 49mm filter.

I haven't been able to find a good source on an IR block filter, to convert
the camera back to visible only.

Comments, suggestions, feedback and ideas for processing are appreciated on
these photos.  They are *very* experimental, it is almost like learning
photography all over again.  Some observations and notes:

1) In camera exposure metering is very unpredictable.  I suspect that the
metering also has IR filters over it, which weren't removed, so there is
a strong disconnect between what the metering sees and what the meter sees.

2) For autofocus:  If you are shooting in IR, use IR lights and live view, or
stop things down more.  Autofocus (on a full spectrum) is calibrated for
visible light, not IR.

3) If you get a full spectrum camera, budget a few hundred dollars for
IR block and visible block filters for both primes (49mm ish) and Zooms
(77mm ish).

4) The color adjustment in LR doesn't go far enough, in either temperature
or tint.  I will eventually experiment with two pass color correction, exporting
the file to DNG or TIFF, then running it through again.

5) Accept the fact that photos will look weird.  Don't fight it, go with it,
and figure out ways to make that weirdness work.

6) When things do correct to closer to natural lighting, they'll end up
kind of flat and pastel in shading.

7) For working with IR, you really want a camera that works well in Live View
mode.  You really want to see what the camera will be seeing.




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OT Back up silly question of the week.

2013-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
So, after marks back up question last week, i have decided to add one
more external HD to my machine and do a full back up, currently i use
two externals to back up photos and some doc's.
I looked at Time Machione links on Gogle and i noticed this quote from Apple:

:Time Machine can’t back up to an external drive that's connected to
an AirPort Extreme or a drive formatted for Microsoft Windows (NTFS or
FAT format).  If you select an NTFS or FAT-formatted drive, Time
Machine prompts you to reformat the drive. Choose a different drive or
reformat the drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.

When i buy my new external, do i have to run the disk utilities and
format to Mac extended or is there a format on the external any way.

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Re: First experiments with IR adapted K-5

2013-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
  Some observations and notes:

 1) In camera exposure metering is very unpredictable.  I suspect that the
 metering also has IR filters over it, which weren't removed, so there is
 a strong disconnect between what the metering sees and what the meter sees.

 2) For autofocus:  If you are shooting in IR, use IR lights and live view, or
 stop things down more.  Autofocus (on a full spectrum) is calibrated for
 visible light, not IR.

The guy i talked to at Pro said to send in the lens i would be using
the most so they could adjust the af to it. I am going to get the 720
filter installed so i dont have to use externals should i go ahead and
do my K10D
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Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?

2013-08-11 Thread George Sinos
Quite a few years ago I used two external drives.  One held all of my
photos.  The other was synchronized with SecondCopy software to be a
daily backup.  I don't know if I had a power problem, drives were less
reliable back then or there was a mystical spell cast on my computer
setup; but over a period of 3 or 4 years I replaced 3 bad drives.

About 3 years ago I added a Microsoft Home Server to the mix.  That
backs up everything everyday.  Somewhere along the line one of my PCs
picked up a virus.  It was a simple matter to restore it to a date
that I knew it was clean.

The MHS is starting to get old.  It's served me well but an aging
server is nothing to trust.  Even though I regularly backup the server
I picked up a Network drive Friday.  I'll set it up to automatically
back up the server daily.  Should the server die, I'll just point
everything to the Network drive.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to tighten my belt and adjust my suspenders.

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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:15 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

 It's very little time to do this stuff since everything is automated. I 
 worked out the policy and mechanisms five or six years back, it's been 
 running the same ever since although I've upgraded drives and computers 
 since several times.

 This makes me wonder how many of us with comprehensive backups have actually 
 had a drive fail so you need to restore the data?  Or is there some 
 variation of Murphy's Law that says you'll only experience problems when you 
 have no backup, or worse, when you thought your backup was good...

 In the past dozen years, I've had three hard drives fail completely. One 
 incited me to develop the backup policy and procedures. Two of them were 
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 There's a reason I did this. And it works, perfectly, for my needs.

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Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk

2013-08-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/8/13, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:

At this point I'm being sorely temped by the Fujifilm X10.  Would feel a
little guilty about sticking with Pentax, though.

Deffo go for the X20 if you can - unless price is crucial.

Not just saying this as some sort of defence, but the current Fuji
lineup in terms of quality and obvious devotion to producing gear that
photographers like to use, reminds me very much of Pentax in the late
70s and early 80s...

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Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk

2013-08-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 On 7/8/13, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
At this point I'm being sorely temped by the Fujifilm X10.  Would feel a
little guilty about sticking with Pentax, though.
 
 Deffo go for the X20 if you can - unless price is crucial.
 
 Not just saying this as some sort of defence, but the current Fuji
 lineup in terms of quality and obvious devotion to producing gear that
 photographers like to use, reminds me very much of Pentax in the late
 70s and early 80s...

My main issue with Fuji is that it's less supported on Linux due to
their oddball sensor design (although we did just get a Fuji X-S1 for my
partner, who likes it a lot better than the Panasonic FZ-35).  But our
primary camera right now seems to be the Canon G1X, which has about the
best low-light performance of any zoomable PS.  Also takes really nice
pictures.

A new G1X is too spendy for what you get (although I probably will just
pay for a new G2X whenever it comes out now that I've had reasonable
experience with the G1X), but we got ours from keh.com for about $500.
Doesn't seem to be available there right now, but bhphoto does.

The X20 doesn't yet have results on dxomark, but it would need to be a
considerable improvement over the X10 for its F2 lens to match the G1X's
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Re: OT Back up silly question of the week.

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Dave, if you buy a drive from the Apple store or an Apple 3rd party
supplier it will almost certainly come pre-formatted for Mac OS X.
Otherwise just run Disk Utilities.app when you get a new backup drive
and reformat it. Takes all of a minute or two to do. It's no big deal
at all.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, after marks back up question last week, i have decided to add one
 more external HD to my machine and do a full back up, currently i use
 two externals to back up photos and some doc's.
 I looked at Time Machione links on Gogle and i noticed this quote from Apple:

 :Time Machine can’t back up to an external drive that's connected to
 an AirPort Extreme or a drive formatted for Microsoft Windows (NTFS or
 FAT format).  If you select an NTFS or FAT-formatted drive, Time
 Machine prompts you to reformat the drive. Choose a different drive or
 reformat the drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.

 When i buy my new external, do i have to run the disk utilities and
 format to Mac extended or is there a format on the external any way.

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Re: OT Back up silly question of the week.

2013-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
Bruce, i guess my main question would be this. When i set up my
computer the first time, as i plugged in my existing back up drives, a
pop up screen asked if i wanted to make it the time machine drive,
which i said no to. I can then say yes to the new one, before
formatting it, i'm assuming yes.

Dave

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 Dave, if you buy a drive from the Apple store or an Apple 3rd party
 supplier it will almost certainly come pre-formatted for Mac OS X.
 Otherwise just run Disk Utilities.app when you get a new backup drive
 and reformat it. Takes all of a minute or two to do. It's no big deal
 at all.


 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, after marks back up question last week, i have decided to add one
 more external HD to my machine and do a full back up, currently i use
 two externals to back up photos and some doc's.
 I looked at Time Machione links on Gogle and i noticed this quote from Apple:

 :Time Machine can’t back up to an external drive that's connected to
 an AirPort Extreme or a drive formatted for Microsoft Windows (NTFS or
 FAT format).  If you select an NTFS or FAT-formatted drive, Time
 Machine prompts you to reformat the drive. Choose a different drive or
 reformat the drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.

 When i buy my new external, do i have to run the disk utilities and
 format to Mac extended or is there a format on the external any way.

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Re: OT Back up silly question of the week.

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
If you plugin the drive and it's _not_ OS X formatted, I'm not sure
that you'll even get that helpful popup question at all. If it does it
will probably prompt you to reformat at that time.

In any event, you can easily add any compatible drive as the TM backup
drive from TM preferences later on.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bruce, i guess my main question would be this. When i set up my
 computer the first time, as i plugged in my existing back up drives, a
 pop up screen asked if i wanted to make it the time machine drive,
 which i said no to. I can then say yes to the new one, before
 formatting it, i'm assuming yes.

 Dave

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dave, if you buy a drive from the Apple store or an Apple 3rd party
 supplier it will almost certainly come pre-formatted for Mac OS X.
 Otherwise just run Disk Utilities.app when you get a new backup drive
 and reformat it. Takes all of a minute or two to do. It's no big deal
 at all.


 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:41 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, after marks back up question last week, i have decided to add one
 more external HD to my machine and do a full back up, currently i use
 two externals to back up photos and some doc's.
 I looked at Time Machione links on Gogle and i noticed this quote from 
 Apple:

 :Time Machine can’t back up to an external drive that's connected to
 an AirPort Extreme or a drive formatted for Microsoft Windows (NTFS or
 FAT format).  If you select an NTFS or FAT-formatted drive, Time
 Machine prompts you to reformat the drive. Choose a different drive or
 reformat the drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.

 When i buy my new external, do i have to run the disk utilities and
 format to Mac extended or is there a format on the external any way.

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Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?

2013-08-11 Thread Rob Studdert
It depends on the data type and the frequency that I am editing or
updating though I do have automated incremental system/data back-ups
from by server to a WS which I use WOL to back up to early morning.
Otherwise most of the written work that I do I save in Dropbox which
is set up as a service on my server too so stuff is replicated real
time to a half dozen or so systems in different suburbs. Any cloud
services I use are also saved real time to various local machines too.
All my images files/edits and AV files/edit are backed up to separate
drives which I keep off site and are replicas of the drives in my
server. The only instance that I came to grief with of late is when an
SD card failed to download completely. Fortunately even though the
card had been subsequently formatted and written to I still managed to
recover the lost files as I realized fairly quickly that the some
images were missing,

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Re: GESO - Ladies Zeppelin

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Dario:  I really like the shots below.  Must of been a fun photo shoot.  
Great work throughout the gallery!  Cheers, Christine


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9460202616/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9457427049/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9460216282/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9457439935/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9460228750/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9457454245/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9457466507/in/photostream/
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 Hi all,
 Her you'll find a gallery of pics shot by me at a Summer concert (beer 
 festival) of a Led Zeppelin all-female cover band.
 This is the pic starting it all:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/9460181190/in/photostream/
 I quite like those pictures (some of them more than others, of course). Which 
 pics would you pick as the good ones?
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Re: PESO: Frond

2013-08-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17468790
 Comments are invited.

Looks great to me!  Seems to be missing something, though [...] I know,
it needs a rubber ducky.

I might consider reducing shutter speed and aperture for greater DOF,
mainly because of the slightly softened water drop mid-bottom-left
(particularly if you want a larger print size).

 This is an interesting one, Dan. While the graphic elements please me,
 I find the busy background too jarring. Competes with the foreground.
 I think the colour scheme is disharmonious -- that may be what's
 bugging me.

For fans of a certain TV show: purple! green! PURPLE! GREEN!

I kinda see what you mean, but that's not my reaction, and to the extent
that I do share your reaction, it's reduced when I view the larger image
(which foregrounds the frond more).
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Re: GESOs - G.A.S.

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Image #2 in your 35/1.4 set: wonderful!

But image #9: my eyes! my eyes! ;-)


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 productivity hit when I do. Not that I'm complaining, trying new things is
 fun. I just come back with less bang per click.

 The Aussie Dollar is on a slippery slope back to its natural place in the
 world, but there are still some local stockists holding inventory at bargain
 prices. The Sigma 35mm 1.4 is a very attractive looking lens. It has this
 odd thing where the focusing scale goes from 0.3m to 1m for most of the
 focus throw, and then a tiny movement from 1m to infinity. It isn't a macro,
 so I wonder why they did that. The Voigtlander 17.5 0.95 does the same
 thing. Still, the HSM is really S, quieter than the Pentax SDM, I think.
 Very well damped manual focusing feel. I like it much more than the just-ok
 30mm 1.4. The next lenses in the Art series should prove interesting.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/08/sig35/index.html

 And for a bit of retro, I picked up a pristine Minolta CLE. The wee bugger
 is beautiful, no wonder they didn't let it last long. It is a shame the
 shutter sound is rather loud; I was definitely clocked more than I normally
 am. On the last few rolls of Neopan too. Should do one more last time buy.

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Re: OT: (Non-pentax) PESO: Aerial Pano

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Charles!  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very impressive indeed, especially so for built-in software. No wonder
 smartphones are shifting the casual photographers from ps and SLRs.
 
 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:37 , Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 1st let me say that's a pretty cool photo no matter the camera and  2nd I 
 never thought of a pano for this use. 3rd what sftwr did you use on phone?
 
 
 I turned on the phone, went to the camera app, selected options, panorama.  
 Turn to the left, press the shutter button, swivel to the right, press the 
 shutter button again, done.
 
 This is exactly what the phone gave me.  No post-processing whatsoever!
 
 
 But then just check out the DETAIL in this thing.  A photo of this group 
 of people taken just a minute later with the K5 and the 16-50... doesn't 
 appear as detailed.
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/IMG_2996.jpg
 
 
 Note link has changed due to a request from the organization I shot this 
 for... (I posted a link to this somewhere where they'd rather I hadn't and 
 it's simpler to just move the file rather than find and remove my posting):
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/save_it_for_later/IMG_2996.jpg
 
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Re: Best Buds

2013-08-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17468795

 Thanks, Ken and Ann.
 
 Actually, I took another image without the leaf:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17468794
 
 Somehow, I like the composition of the image with the leaf better,
 although I was also a bit bothered about the light area, as Ann was.

You definitely have a point about your first composition looking better,
though I think trying the single bud in portrait would be a Good Idea.
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Re: couple more PESOs with the K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, bottles is fantastic.  Delightful colors and mix of packaging imagery etc. 
 Well seen, Ann!  Cheers, Christine


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 All with the 28mm M
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2690413570k=bDcbN3flb=1s=A
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2690412947k=pVFNcL2lb=1s=A
 
 For this one - I've posted mainly to ask for plant ID.
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2691169963k=3cn7VjPlb=1s=A
 
 The window shot is on the upper east side.. maybe 78th and Madison or Lex .. 
 It's a fun old place and I should know its name
 
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Re: PESO - Fallen

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Great tones and deep colours in this, Peter. I prefer underexposure
for shots with flowers and this hits it just right.

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 Strong winds here yesterday blew the first camelia off its stalk.

 http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/151750666

 Pentax K5, DA 21 f/3.2. Converted in PWP 7.0 64-bit.

 Comments most welcome.

 Ciao,

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Re: PESO - At the Beach for the Apocalypse

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice!  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO - Eastbound

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Wonderful!  You make our landscapes look beautiful!  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier National Park:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html
 
 A larger version is here:
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg
 
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Re: PESO - Fallen

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
That's nice, Peter!  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 10, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote:

 Strong winds here yesterday blew the first camelia off its stalk.
 
 http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/151750666
 
 Pentax K5, DA 21 f/3.2. Converted in PWP 7.0 64-bit.
 
 Comments most welcome.
 
 Ciao,
 
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Re: PESO - Halloween Candy

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
George, I think you should have arranged all the eyes on the left to look out 
from the package at the camera.  Or you could arrange the eyes so that they 
were looking in all different directions.  Granted it might have taken some 
doing while still in the package, but it could have yielded some comical effect 
 :-).  Cheers, Christine



On Aug 8, 2013, at 8:48 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems like the retailers push the holiday sales earlier every year.  I
 was at the local grocery store yesterday and saw one aisle full of
 Halloween candy.  Seems early to me.  Besides, if they fill the space
 with Halloween candy where are they going to put the Christmas stuff?
 
 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/8/8/halloween-candy-and-school-supplies
 
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Re: PESO - Soul

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Pretty close!  Cheers, christine


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 Is it me or does this guy look like Smokey Robinson? 
 
 Taken at a local fair on the weekend, this is local RB guy Jarvis Church (ex 
 of the Philosopher Kings):
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/soul.html?m=1
 
 Took the wonderfully heavy Vivitar S1 f2.8 35-85mm and in the low light the 
 wide-ish aperture was utilized.
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Peso A view from the flatlands

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
I might agree with Steve.  Maybe saturation is a tad strong.  Composition is 
excellent.  Cheers, Christine


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 on 2013-08-10 11:55 John wrote
 Flickr sez: ! This is not the page you're looking for.
 
 This one maybe?  http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9474838174/
 
 yes, he edited the dust and reposted
 
 the saturation seems a bit strong but it is very nice in the abstract
 
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Re: Peso Sun's house

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
I like this, Dave.  Angle works, has a kind of gentle wind-swept feel to it.  
Original perspective to the flower shot.  Cheers, Christine


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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17489171
 
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Re: Peso The look

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
What Ken said.  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 8, 2013, at 3:55 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Good subject  composition - anytime you can get two of the same in an image, 
 its generally a plus.
 Seems a bit soft to me.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 Subject: Peso The look
 
 
 Jays have been quiet lately but they are back in full force.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17488920
 
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Re: PESOs: Not sepia

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Ken:  Well, I checked out the P7100 and it does look like a mighty little 
camera--and affordable.  Thanks for the heads up.  Cheers, Christine




On Aug 7, 2013, at 3:03 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 I wished I had a smaller high quality camera just for snaps when traveling 
 for work.
 
 Hi Christine 'A'
 
 A while back I picked up a Nikon Coolpix P7100 - a really great rangefinder 
 digital, a little bigger than your typical P  S camera. I'm thoroughly 
 impressed by it. I wanted something smaller than a digital SLR and yet 
 capable enough to do most of the work of a DSLR. I especially was interested 
 in this model as it has an optical viewfinder in addition to an LCD, tiltable 
 back. I could go on about this gem - it has most of the features of my K20D 
 plus alot more features that the Pentax doesn't have. Unfortunately its out 
 of production after only 2 years and replaced by another without the optical 
 viewfinder. I got mine new for $364.
 
 Check it out.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
 Subject: Re: PESOs: Not sepia
 
 
 Hi Chris:  Really Sweet!  The Fuji is impressive.  I just got back from 
 Portland, and I was loaded down with tech--including camera, and there were 
 times I wished I had a smaller high quality camera just for snaps when 
 traveling for work.  Lugging tech through the airport security is 
 annoying--but the tech bag challenges are even more annoying.
 
 Excellent shot of Katy--and I noticed there were a lot of baffled peasants 
 on this trip!
 Looks like all had a great time.
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 On Aug 6, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/MikeCath100/slides/DSCF2622.html
 
 OK, I lied:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/MikeCath100/slides/DSCF2646.html
 
 And Bob Baffled at the evening ceilidh:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/MikeCath100/slides/DSCF2688.html
 
 Chris
 
 
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SF Street Art

2013-08-11 Thread Bipin Gupta
Some Street Art photos of San Francisco.
Taken at high noon with the K20D + Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC lens.
Exif data is intact.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nem0h4umlml76po/xx4mJlnw4U

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Photos/SF%20Street%20Art

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Re: PESO: Echinacea

2013-08-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17468791

 Ken, Bob and Bruce, thanks for looking and thanks for your comments.
 I liked the shape of the group in my original PESO, despite the OoF
 flowers at the top.  I decided to take your advice, and cropped the
 image:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17471959
 
 I hope this is an improvement.  Comments are invited.

Strongly disagree -- I like the two-tone/hierarchical effect of the
original.  Just wish you'd composed a tiny bit more to the left (flower
chopped off on left and leaf is intruding on right).

For an interesting effect, you might try picture-in-picture with the bee
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Re: SF Street Art

2013-08-11 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote:

 Some Street Art photos of San Francisco.
 Taken at high noon with the K20D + Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC lens.
 Exif data is intact.
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nem0h4umlml76po/xx4mJlnw4U
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/home/Photos/SF%20Street%20Art

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Re: OT Back up silly question of the week.

2013-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
Yes i see that now, missed it on my original read through. The other
drives were formated to win/mac before this new machine, on the iBook
G4 i believe

Dave

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you plugin the drive and it's _not_ OS X formatted, I'm not sure
 that you'll even get that helpful popup question at all. If it does it
 will probably prompt you to reformat at that time.

 In any event, you can easily add any compatible drive as the TM backup
 drive from TM preferences later on.

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 Bruce, i guess my main question would be this. When i set up my
 computer the first time, as i plugged in my existing back up drives, a
 pop up screen asked if i wanted to make it the time machine drive,
 which i said no to. I can then say yes to the new one, before
 formatting it, i'm assuming yes.

 Dave

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 wrote:
 Dave, if you buy a drive from the Apple store or an Apple 3rd party
 supplier it will almost certainly come pre-formatted for Mac OS X.
 Otherwise just run Disk Utilities.app when you get a new backup drive
 and reformat it. Takes all of a minute or two to do. It's no big deal
 at all.


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 So, after marks back up question last week, i have decided to add one
 more external HD to my machine and do a full back up, currently i use
 two externals to back up photos and some doc's.
 I looked at Time Machione links on Gogle and i noticed this quote from 
 Apple:

 :Time Machine can’t back up to an external drive that's connected to
 an AirPort Extreme or a drive formatted for Microsoft Windows (NTFS or
 FAT format).  If you select an NTFS or FAT-formatted drive, Time
 Machine prompts you to reformat the drive. Choose a different drive or
 reformat the drive in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.

 When i buy my new external, do i have to run the disk utilities and
 format to Mac extended or is there a format on the external any way.

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Re: couple more PESOs with the K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks Christine, Ken, Brian and all .. it was a fun find.  The whole 
place is intersting - gotta find it again.


Company coming over shortly to watch PGA - we had planned to get 
together for this earlier, but now Im the one with the extra TV with 
Rabbit ears and we can watch TNT until 2 pm and switch to CBS at 2.


My friend in Florida who I'm selling Starbucks cards for has friends on 
the leader board, including current leader so though I'm sad Tiger and 
Lefty are way out of it, this should be fun to watch and cheer on.


ann

On 8/11/2013 11:22, Christine Aguila wrote:

Wow, bottles is fantastic.  Delightful colors and mix of packaging imagery etc. 
 Well seen, Ann!  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 10, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


All with the 28mm M

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2690413570k=bDcbN3flb=1s=A

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2690412947k=pVFNcL2lb=1s=A

For this one - I've posted mainly to ask for plant ID.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s#!i=2691169963k=3cn7VjPlb=1s=A

The window shot is on the upper east side.. maybe 78th and Madison or Lex .. 
It's a fun old place and I should know its name

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Re: A thought-provoking conversation on the death of snapshots

2013-08-11 Thread Christine Aguila

On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:22 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 That is the viewpoint from a collector, of course.  If we don't
 produce any artifacts now, there won't be anything to collect later.
 
 The basic concept has been brought up several times over the last many
 years.  Not only do people not make prints, they don't get the photos
 off of their devices.  I guessing most of us know someone that lost
 all of the photos when a phone or computer was lost.
 
 Apple, Google, Smugmug and others may help a little bit as photos
 taken on a phone can automatically be copied to the Internet, but when
 the person quits using the account (for whatever reason) all of those
 photos go away.
 
 If you don't take an active part in constantly backing up your photos,
 and moving them to whatever new and improved media emerges, they will
 be gone.
 
 As silly as it sounds, the fragile paper print may be the most
 archival media for most people simply because it can be put in a
 shoebox, stuffed under the bed and forgotten for a few decades.



Agreed!

This is an interesting topic both in the general and personal sense.  Having 
passed the half century mark and not having kids, I've been thinking about all 
my stuff, and, of course, that includes photography.  What do I leave behind?  
Is anybody really going to be interested in my stuff (probably not)?

Darrel  I have started cleaning house this summer, culling my personal 
library, giving away clothes and household items to charity.  There's much more 
work ahead, but it's really starting to feel liberating.

I don't think anyone in my family will be interested in the stewardship of hard 
drives with digital negatives (frankly, I don't find it much fun either :-)), 
but they do have interest in prints and as you'd expect, prints of family 
moments.  Prints are mainly stored in boxes to be sure, but not all.

And my family really enjoys looking at the photo books we can make through 
blurb.  They enjoy looking at the PDML annual, and they really enjoyed looking 
at the Wilson book the UK PDMLers and I made for the Wilsons as a thank you 
gift after last year's trip to England.

So this is the direction I'm headed.  It's no longer a question of, how am I 
going to store this stuff digitally (though that issue doesn't  go away 
obviously), but rather, let's get these photos printed up and in books for both 
future enjoyment and perhaps more reliable backup if you will.   This also 
includes my own personal work--the GESOs and PESOs and photo essays I've done 
over the years.  I'm even planning to do some quick books by year; that is, 
best snaps of each year since I've been back in photography.  With Lightroom 
it's pretty easy to go through large groups of photos, make collections, then 
pop over to the book module and do a basic layout.  Granted I may be 
oversimplifying a bit, but if you don't over-think the project, you can get a 
project done pretty efficiently. So I say get them in books and prints and move 
on.

I'm not sure I completely agree with Robert Jackson's definition of a snapshot, 
which he claims is often a mistake, but I do agree snaps of family and friends 
should be printed up for posterity.  Printing should not be an activity 
exclusive to fine art printmaking.  Print the silly, the playful, the fun--then 
share!

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Re: A thought-provoking conversation on the death of snapshots

2013-08-11 Thread Paul Sorenson

I think I've posted this link before, but it's no less valid...

http://www.shutterbug.com/content/point-view-prints-are-precious-or-praise-shoebox

And...after you've made a print of family members, note on the back who 
they are.  I have prints from early in the 20th century that I know are 
family members, but have no idea who they are or where they fit into the 
family.


-p

On 8/11/2013 12:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


On Aug 10, 2013, at 2:22 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:


That is the viewpoint from a collector, of course.  If we don't
produce any artifacts now, there won't be anything to collect later.

The basic concept has been brought up several times over the last many
years.  Not only do people not make prints, they don't get the photos
off of their devices.  I guessing most of us know someone that lost
all of the photos when a phone or computer was lost.

Apple, Google, Smugmug and others may help a little bit as photos
taken on a phone can automatically be copied to the Internet, but when
the person quits using the account (for whatever reason) all of those
photos go away.

If you don't take an active part in constantly backing up your photos,
and moving them to whatever new and improved media emerges, they will
be gone.

As silly as it sounds, the fragile paper print may be the most
archival media for most people simply because it can be put in a
shoebox, stuffed under the bed and forgotten for a few decades.




Agreed!

This is an interesting topic both in the general and personal sense.  Having 
passed the half century mark and not having kids, I've been thinking about all 
my stuff, and, of course, that includes photography.  What do I leave behind?  
Is anybody really going to be interested in my stuff (probably not)?

Darrel  I have started cleaning house this summer, culling my personal 
library, giving away clothes and household items to charity.  There's much more 
work ahead, but it's really starting to feel liberating.

I don't think anyone in my family will be interested in the stewardship of hard 
drives with digital negatives (frankly, I don't find it much fun either :-)), 
but they do have interest in prints and as you'd expect, prints of family 
moments.  Prints are mainly stored in boxes to be sure, but not all.

And my family really enjoys looking at the photo books we can make through 
blurb.  They enjoy looking at the PDML annual, and they really enjoyed looking 
at the Wilson book the UK PDMLers and I made for the Wilsons as a thank you 
gift after last year's trip to England.

So this is the direction I'm headed.  It's no longer a question of, how am I 
going to store this stuff digitally (though that issue doesn't  go away 
obviously), but rather, let's get these photos printed up and in books for both 
future enjoyment and perhaps more reliable backup if you will.   This also 
includes my own personal work--the GESOs and PESOs and photo essays I've done 
over the years.  I'm even planning to do some quick books by year; that is, 
best snaps of each year since I've been back in photography.  With Lightroom 
it's pretty easy to go through large groups of photos, make collections, then 
pop over to the book module and do a basic layout.  Granted I may be 
oversimplifying a bit, but if you don't over-think the project, you can get a 
project done pretty efficiently. So I say get them in books and prints and move 
on.

I'm not sure I completely agree with Robert Jackson's definition of a snapshot, 
which he claims is often a mistake, but I do agree snaps of family and friends 
should be printed up for posterity.  Printing should not be an activity 
exclusive to fine art printmaking.  Print the silly, the playful, the fun--then 
share!

Cheers, Christine














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Re: PESO x2 from my weekend

2013-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I really like the PoV on the first shot.  Nice image.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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 We went up to visit my father-in-law this weekend and the region managed to 
 turn on some unexpected weather on Saturday, so we made the most of it.

 Nice Day For A Paddle:
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/642/#peso

 Kaiteriteri Beach:
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/643/#peso

 Both are cellphone pics and are completely unprocessed except for a slight 
 crop of the second one to remove some foreground shadows.  I didn't even take 
 the DSLR on this trip...

 Cheers,
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PAW188 - Antenna

2013-08-11 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/125s, f/11, ISO100, 

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Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?

2013-08-11 Thread steve harley

on 2013-08-11 24:15 David Mann wrote

On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:


It's very little time to do this stuff since everything is automated. I worked 
out the policy and mechanisms five or six years back, it's been running the 
same ever since although I've upgraded drives and computers since several times.


This makes me wonder how many of us with comprehensive backups have actually 
had a drive fail so you need to restore the data?


my own main drive hasn't failed in a long time, but my partner's laptop drive 
failed a couple of years ago and Time Machine made recovery pretty seamless; i 
do restore individual items from Time Machine periodically, which is a partial 
test of backup integrity, and when i switch hard drives i use a clone, which is 
a pretty good test of the procedure i use for tertiary backups; i have had 
backup drives fail several times


i did recently help a friend who had not thought things through when she 
brought her iMac in for repair — they replaced the iMac and her data was gone; 
fortunately i had set her up with Time Machine and it saved the day; there was 
a glitch with Time Machine, though, due to a configuration change she had made 
while waiting for the iMac; for a few hours she was faced with the scenario of 
1) data wiped out, and 2) backup not intact; we eventually worked around it, 
but it reinforced my prior advice for a tertiary backup system so she started 
doing periodic clones and taking them off-site


a few years ago i contracted at a large corpse where another department (on 
which my department relied for file services) managed to obliterate a RAID 
array (RAID is safe, right?) and in the process discovered their (untested) 
backups were also faulty … heads rolled; the situation i had been brought in to 
clean up (i am a software janitor) was even more tenuous, but from the start i 
had advocated protective measures, so i was made to seem very wise


quite recently i took a retainer for improving a website and said one of the 
first things i needed to do was confirm the site was properly backed up; i soon 
got word from the previous contractor that he didn't think the backups were 
working; the clients, while failing to give me any way to check the backups, 
and thus making it impossible to set up a staging server, nonetheless insisted 
i rush a major reconfiguration of the site; when the clients clearly didn't 
understood nor accept the liability of this approach, i told them it wasn't 
going to work and said goodbye



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Re: Carrying a Camera on a Long Walk

2013-08-11 Thread steve harley

on 2013-08-08 13:19 Bipin Gupta wrote

As one gets older camera sling bags, back packs or even the neck strap
become a pain in the neck - literally.


one of my pet peeves is backpacks with useless (or missing) waist straps; a 
good, countoured hip belt (and using it properly) takes the load off your 
shoulders; a piece of 1-inch strapping can't do the job; i like a good backpack 
with a hip-belt for heavy loads


on the other hand, a cross-strap on a messenger bag can take a little bit of 
shoulder load off, and also stabilize the load; such a messenger bag with 
camera insert is what i like for light loads and short trips (most of my 
photography)


for moderate loads, and for some of the convenience of messenger bags, i have 
used lumbar packs since the mid-80s; the Mountainsmith Day  Tour models have 
good suspensions, and these are great packs if not much volume is needed; for 
more volume, and an even better suspension, i use the discontinued Cairn for 
long hikes; i wear lumbar packs with the shoulder strap across my chest, so i 
can unclip the belt and swing it around easily; most of the time the weight is 
completely off my shoulders; there may be a few other good brands, but most 
waist packs do not have a good lumbar suspension like the Mountainsmith models



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OT -- DiMage Scanner with Windows XP

2013-08-11 Thread P.J. Alling
Well it's kind of OT but not really.  A friend of mine is trying to get 
his DiMage (I believe it's a Scan Multi), working with WinXP. It was 
last used with a Windows 98 box, and has been in storage for the last 
few years.  I tried to diagnose his problems on the phone, but that 
didn't work out as well as I would have liked.


He's using an Adaptec SCSI card that according to the manufacture's site 
has native XP Drivers embedded in the OS.  However the Minolta supplied 
software didn't recognize the scanner and neither did the OS.


I suggested that he download Hamrick VueScan, which caused a bluescreen 
when first started, and after rebooting it didn't see the scanner 
either.  I'm kind of at a loss, has anyone else here used an older SCSI 
scanner with XP successfully?  If so what steps did you take?


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It continues ...

2013-08-11 Thread John

I've already mentioned that my K20D has a great big (about 150 pixels)
defect clump right in the middle of the sensor.

Yesterday I took my K10D out for some exercise. Ended up out at the
airport on the observation deck just as a thunderstorm was sweeping over
the active runway. One of the images I wanted was the wind-sock against
the dark storm clouds. Decided I needed just a little fill flash to
lighten up the sock. Make it POP!

Could not get the on-board flash to give me a proper exposure. I could
get the sock illuminated, but even with the flash dialed down as far as
it would go, the background was blown completely out whenever I used the
flash.

Even with manual exposure. I could either get the sock  background
exposed without the flash (which either made the background too light or
the sock too dark), but when I added the flash the sock would be exposed
 the sky would be completely whited out.

And then, sometime over night the monitor on my internet computer died.

The inverter for the back-light is failing. I can turn it off  back on
 I'll get the display back for about 10 seconds before it goes black
once again. If I take a flashlight  shine it at the screen from the
side, I can see the ghost of my desktop.

I'm really angry about it, because I'm pretty sure it could be fixed
with a $0.15 part. ONE FRIGGIN IC! But there's no where to get it fixed.

I could even do the repair myself if I could just find the part.

But all the places that used to be sources for electronic repair parts
and all the places I used to be able to get a TV or monitor repaired
have gone out of business.

I hate this fuckin' disposable society!

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Re: OT -- DiMage Scanner with Windows XP

2013-08-11 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

Well it's kind of OT but not really.  A friend of mine is trying to get 
his DiMage (I believe it's a Scan Multi), working with WinXP. It was 
last used with a Windows 98 box, and has been in storage for the last 
few years.  I tried to diagnose his problems on the phone, but that 
didn't work out as well as I would have liked.

He's using an Adaptec SCSI card that according to the manufacture's site 
has native XP Drivers embedded in the OS.  However the Minolta supplied 
software didn't recognize the scanner and neither did the OS.

I suggested that he download Hamrick VueScan, which caused a bluescreen 
when first started, and after rebooting it didn't see the scanner 
either.  I'm kind of at a loss, has anyone else here used an older SCSI 
scanner with XP successfully?  If so what steps did you take?

I have used exactly that scanner successfully with Win XP and Windows
7.

With Windows 7 you definitely need VueScan. With XP you can use the
Konica-Minolta software if you download their latest universal scanner
driver (the drivers that came with the scanner won't work at all).
It's been a while since I did it but I don't recall having any
difficulty at all.

I do have the XP driver that worked if he can't find it on line.
 
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Re: OT -- DiMage Scanner with Windows XP

2013-08-11 Thread steve harley

on 2013-08-11 15:26 P.J. Alling wrote

Well it's kind of OT but not really.  A friend of mine is trying to get his
DiMage (I believe it's a Scan Multi), working with WinXP. [...]
I suggested that he download Hamrick VueScan, which caused a bluescreen when
first started, and after rebooting it didn't see the scanner either.


well, since Vuescan says it supports the Scan Multi, i would try to get Vuescan 
to work; of course it could be something in the setup of the SCSI card


i'm not a Windows whiz, but note that there are x32 and x64 versions of Vuescan

Hamrick has been helpful when i've (rarely) had problems; see the faq for what 
to try before reporting a problem, and how to report a problem


http://www.hamrick.com/sup.htm



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OT: Landscapes by Yiming Hu

2013-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.yiminghuphoto.com/portfolio/landscape.php

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PESO skin in IR, rope in UV

2013-08-11 Thread Larry Colen

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9489462930/

I was hoping that nylon rope and webbing would not reflect IR, and would
just appear black, so that fluorescent rope in IR and black light would only
show the fluorescent colors, rather than the colors mixed with the IR 
baseline.  That didnt' quite work,  but the technique does show a 
bit of promise:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9489462930/

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Re: OT: Landscapes by Yiming Hu

2013-08-11 Thread Bob W
Saturation's made my eyeballs bleed.

It looks as though he's gone to all the places everyone else goes to, taken the 
same photos, and cranked the saturation up to 11. 

Painful, dull, no personal vision (he stole Ken Rockwell's).

B

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 http://www.yiminghuphoto.com/portfolio/landscape.php
 
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Re: OT: Landscapes by Yiming Hu

2013-08-11 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks for the link, Daniel.

I agree with Bob's saturation complaint. I can't blame him for
shooting gorgeous geography, and it certainly takes effort to get to
some of those places. I think the window is closing on me ever being
able to physically get to some of those places, even if I had the
wherewithal to plan on such a trip.

I sort of get tired of the philosophy that beauty is only to be found
at the seashore or in the mountains. I highly recommend reading
William Least Heat Moon's book Prairy Erth in which he dissects
Chase County Kansas in every way that you can. I came away from
reading it with an ability to see beauty in the road ditches of my
flyover state of Nebraska. In other words, anybody can have their
breath taken away by a sunrise illuminating a snow-covered mountain
top, but I think it is a greater challenge to find stunning images in
the minutia of a more everyday life.

I did take a couple of things out of Yiming Hu's series.
http://www.yiminghuphoto.com/portfolio/landscape/OH-102.jpg
We get dense fog regularly here in the Platte River Valley. Fog can
hide an ugly background and allow you to isolate a subject. And
shooting into the sun can be effective in fog. I'm going to make a
note to try more of that.

Similarly, the low-lying fog is something we get at times. It makes a
good picture into a great one:
http://www.yiminghuphoto.com/portfolio/landscape/KY-104.jpg
I also liked how he avoided the temptation to place himself squarely
in the middle of the lane (which is probably what I would have done).
Or maybe he did for some shots, but like this one best.

This one struck my eye as a fake (combo of 2 shots):
http://www.yiminghuphoto.com/portfolio/landscape/bashang-110.jpg
The light in the sky really doesn't match the light on the ground, to
my eye. There also seems to be a telltale border to the sky where it
meets the ground on the right hand side of the pic. But I could be
wrong.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Saturation's made my eyeballs bleed.

 It looks as though he's gone to all the places everyone else goes to, taken 
 the same photos, and cranked the saturation up to 11.

 Painful, dull, no personal vision (he stole Ken Rockwell's).

 B

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Re: First experiments with IR adapted K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
I have to agree with others that the sushi looks revolting. A couple
of the shots look like ones that have faded after 15 years in the sun
on a cardboard advert in a restaurant window.

To me the other shots look like you've documented a Ghoul's Night Out. :-)

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Cutting to the chase:
 A friend and I went out for sushi before going dancing.  There are some
 strong artistic limitations to IR photography, the set also includes
 a couple randoms from the afternoon:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635017858426/

 This set was shot at Friday Night Blues.  The thing that got me into
 IR in the first place was being able to use a flash without blinding
 people, each shot is processed in both color and BW:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635011398151/

 I got my K-5 back from Pro Camera Repair yesterday.  They repaired the broken
 sensor, and converted it to (full spectrum) IR for $350, which is about $100
 less than CRIS wanted to just repair it.

 Most of my photos in the afternoon/evening were just of random things, because
 I had no idea how anything would turn out.  I snuck out of the office, and ran
 down to San Jose camera. They had a 77mm, Hoya IR filter for $109, which is
 about what BH charges.  Meanwhile Keeble and Schuchat wanted something like
 $240 for a 77mm IR filter.  Neither one had a 49mm filter.

 I haven't been able to find a good source on an IR block filter, to convert
 the camera back to visible only.

 Comments, suggestions, feedback and ideas for processing are appreciated on
 these photos.  They are *very* experimental, it is almost like learning
 photography all over again.  Some observations and notes:

 1) In camera exposure metering is very unpredictable.  I suspect that the
 metering also has IR filters over it, which weren't removed, so there is
 a strong disconnect between what the metering sees and what the meter sees.

 2) For autofocus:  If you are shooting in IR, use IR lights and live view, or
 stop things down more.  Autofocus (on a full spectrum) is calibrated for
 visible light, not IR.

 3) If you get a full spectrum camera, budget a few hundred dollars for
 IR block and visible block filters for both primes (49mm ish) and Zooms
 (77mm ish).

 4) The color adjustment in LR doesn't go far enough, in either temperature
 or tint.  I will eventually experiment with two pass color correction, 
 exporting
 the file to DNG or TIFF, then running it through again.

 5) Accept the fact that photos will look weird.  Don't fight it, go with it,
 and figure out ways to make that weirdness work.

 6) When things do correct to closer to natural lighting, they'll end up
 kind of flat and pastel in shading.

 7) For working with IR, you really want a camera that works well in Live View
 mode.  You really want to see what the camera will be seeing.

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Re: PESO skin in IR, rope in UV

2013-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I didn't realize you were that into bondage, Larry.

It sounds like an interesting experiment.

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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9489462930/

 I was hoping that nylon rope and webbing would not reflect IR, and would
 just appear black, so that fluorescent rope in IR and black light would only
 show the fluorescent colors, rather than the colors mixed with the IR
 baseline.  That didnt' quite work,  but the technique does show a
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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9489462930/

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Re: First experiments with IR adapted K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'll never eat sushi again!

I like sashimi better in any event .  .  .  .
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have to agree with others that the sushi looks revolting. A couple
 of the shots look like ones that have faded after 15 years in the sun
 on a cardboard advert in a restaurant window.

 To me the other shots look like you've documented a Ghoul's Night Out. :-)

 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Cutting to the chase:
 A friend and I went out for sushi before going dancing.  There are some
 strong artistic limitations to IR photography, the set also includes
 a couple randoms from the afternoon:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635017858426/

 This set was shot at Friday Night Blues.  The thing that got me into
 IR in the first place was being able to use a flash without blinding
 people, each shot is processed in both color and BW:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635011398151/

 I got my K-5 back from Pro Camera Repair yesterday.  They repaired the broken
 sensor, and converted it to (full spectrum) IR for $350, which is about $100
 less than CRIS wanted to just repair it.

 Most of my photos in the afternoon/evening were just of random things, 
 because
 I had no idea how anything would turn out.  I snuck out of the office, and 
 ran
 down to San Jose camera. They had a 77mm, Hoya IR filter for $109, which is
 about what BH charges.  Meanwhile Keeble and Schuchat wanted something like
 $240 for a 77mm IR filter.  Neither one had a 49mm filter.

 I haven't been able to find a good source on an IR block filter, to convert
 the camera back to visible only.

 Comments, suggestions, feedback and ideas for processing are appreciated on
 these photos.  They are *very* experimental, it is almost like learning
 photography all over again.  Some observations and notes:

 1) In camera exposure metering is very unpredictable.  I suspect that the
 metering also has IR filters over it, which weren't removed, so there is
 a strong disconnect between what the metering sees and what the meter sees.

 2) For autofocus:  If you are shooting in IR, use IR lights and live view, or
 stop things down more.  Autofocus (on a full spectrum) is calibrated for
 visible light, not IR.

 3) If you get a full spectrum camera, budget a few hundred dollars for
 IR block and visible block filters for both primes (49mm ish) and Zooms
 (77mm ish).

 4) The color adjustment in LR doesn't go far enough, in either temperature
 or tint.  I will eventually experiment with two pass color correction, 
 exporting
 the file to DNG or TIFF, then running it through again.

 5) Accept the fact that photos will look weird.  Don't fight it, go with it,
 and figure out ways to make that weirdness work.

 6) When things do correct to closer to natural lighting, they'll end up
 kind of flat and pastel in shading.

 7) For working with IR, you really want a camera that works well in Live View
 mode.  You really want to see what the camera will be seeing.

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Re: Carrying a camera on a long walk

2013-08-11 Thread John

On 8/8/2013 10:05 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-08-08 7:27 Eric Weir wrote


I have an an A 50/1.7 and an A 28/2.8. It will be a trade-off between
the speed of the 50 and the wider angle of the 28. And John Sessom's
suggestion, I think I'll look to Op-Tech for my solution for carrying
the camera, in part because it will be inexpensive, in part because it
comes reasonably close what I think I need/want.


i would take both; they are small, and having both myself (well, i have
the _FA_ 28) i have to say that while i love the 50, it is simply too
narrow for some shots, especially when traveling (then again, the 50 has
practically no distortion, so you could do hand-held panoramic sets and
stitch them later)

even with both, you may still feel somewhat constrained by lack of a
true wide angle; that is what eventually led me to the DA 15; it took a
while because it's in a different price range even when a bargain; but
the DA 15/4, A 28/2.8  A 50/1.7 together weigh only 562g!



I went to Iraq in 2004 with a PZ-1p  a brand new *ist-D, 28-200 Tameron
zoom and the two fast ATX-Pro Tokina lenses, 28-70  80-200. As soon as
I got to my permanent duty station, the 28-200 went on the PZ-1p and
they both went into my footlocker. There was no where to do film over
there.

The 28-70 was my workhorse. I'd have to look, but I expect more than 2/3
of my images were taken with that lens. I got to where I no problem
changing lenses while bouncing down an unpaved goat path at 60mph in the
back of an open-top HMMWV if I saw something that needed the range of
the 80-200. I just tucked whichever lens I wasn't shooting with down
inside the top of my day-pack with my spare socks, underwear  MREs.

Didn't really feel the lack of a wide angle until I got to Scotland on
my RR and couldn't quite get Edinburgh Castle in the same frame with
the Scottish Royal Academy  Scottish National Gallery from the vantage
of the roof of Princes Mall. Hadn't yet figured out how to combine
frames for a panorama.

I bought an FAJ 18-35 at Jessops on Shadwick Place  tried again.

I had a Thinkpad R30  a camera bag from Adorama that Herbert Keplar
from Popular Photography recommended (and might have designed for them).
It looked like the old carry-on bags that SAS Airlines used to give away
in the early 60s. The whole kit fit into the bag  you couldn't tell it
was a camera bag.

The display on my Thinkpad failed while I was in Scotland. I checked
with IBM but they had something like a 3 week waiting list  couldn't
ship it back to me in Iraq. I bought an inexpensive 17in flat panel
at Curry's PC World in Glasgow.

When I finally got back to the States, the problem with the Thinkpad's
display turned out to be a $0.15 inverter. With parts  labor the whole
repair was under $20.


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Re: SF Street Art

2013-08-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I think the 4th is the most successful of these... the angle and the 
various strong shadows enhance... and intersting subject to be sure.


ann

On 8/11/2013 12:05, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Some Street Art photos of San Francisco.
Taken at high noon with the K20D + Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 EX DC lens.
Exif data is intact.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nem0h4umlml76po/xx4mJlnw4U

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Photos/SF%20Street%20Art

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Re: PAW188 - Antenna

2013-08-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

hehe - cute, Dag

ann

On 8/11/2013 15:42, DagT wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/125s, f/11, ISO100,

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Re: It continues ...

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
John, how about DigiKey?  http://www.digikey.com/
Or Mouser?  http://mouser.com
Or even Jameco?  http://www.jameco.com/

I know, you can't just drive over.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:45 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm really angry about it, because I'm pretty sure it could be fixed
 with a $0.15 part. ONE FRIGGIN IC! But there's no where to get it fixed.

 I could even do the repair myself if I could just find the part.

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Re: PESO - Anna, pronounced Ahna

2013-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/7/13 11:39 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Wonderful!  You caught the hair perfectly, Doug.  Love it!  Cheers, Christine


Thank you, Christine. You don't always need the burst, but when you want 
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(My) Ricoh GR review

2013-08-11 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi,

I had the chance to spend some days with the Ricoh GR and I wrote a review in 
my friend's technology blog. In Spanish but with several example images in case 
that you are interested in this special fixed-lens-APSC-size-sensor compact 
camera:
http://www.teknofilo.com/ricoh-gr-analisis/


A fine camera with very sharp results...but not for everybody.

Regards,
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Re: PESO - Anna, pronounced Ahna

2013-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/11/13 7:26 AM, Derby Chang wrote:


You sold me. I love the magenta tone. Sleek skirt; are there more to
show off the fashion?



On 6/08/2013 4:43 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/46sU316B2da






Thanks, Derby. Yes, I have more of the outfit:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/eJkDbGpCwKp

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/WsDtHJ9eKs9

and one other hair shot in b/w:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/115347824062413314605/posts/anmuVufYBcR

there are a few lurking in the archives that I'm not sure about yet.

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Re: Question to Google Plusers

2013-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/7/13 12:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Google Plus has users?




don't tell anyone. We don't want the Facebook crowd to invade.

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Re: It continues ...

2013-08-11 Thread John

On 8/11/2013 7:39 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

John, how about DigiKey?  http://www.digikey.com/
Or Mouser?  http://mouser.com
Or even Jameco?  http://www.jameco.com/

I know, you can't just drive over.




I appreciate that.

I like doing business locally so I can avoid having to fool with that
stupid internet tax.

But I don't hate that internet tax as much as I hate having to take
something I think should be repairable to the dump. I'll take the darn
thing apart  see if I can't get an actual part number and give 'em a call.

My first little Google search hadn't turned up anything. I was figuring
on trying to contact the manufacturer on Monday. I think those links
will help.

Trying to look on the bright side of things, I got my desk cleaned while
I was installing the new monitor. It won't last, but I'm going to enjoy
it for as long as I can.


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:45 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


I'm really angry about it, because I'm pretty sure it could be fixed
with a $0.15 part. ONE FRIGGIN IC! But there's no where to get it fixed.

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Re: Question to Google Plusers

2013-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/7/13 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Well, it's not _quite_ automatic posting. When you save your Blogger
article it automatically pops up the G+ share UI to prompt you to post
it. Sure that's useful, but I disabled it a while back because it also
pops it up every time you make any small change to your posting like
adding tags or correcting a spelling error.


Something to be aware of is that the users at Google+ expect you to
post an image to G+ itself rather than a link to an image somewhere
else. For some reason G+ users (all 17 of them! :-) ) expect to see
local images and will pretty much ignore any image-link posting.
Google+ reinforces that too by showing off-linked images as tiny
thumbnails while displaying local content as big pictures.

And if you share an image to one of the G+ Groups, you will be
verbally taken to task if you post a link to a blog article or Flickr
page rather than local content. They like to be able to comment and +1
stuff on G+ itself rather than deal with 3rd parties, which I kind of
get, but it's annoying.

Google+ is too much of a closed community. I liked it in the beginning
but I don't have the time to invest in so many different little gated
communities.


This is all pretty spot-on, although I disagree with the end point; It 
*can* be  closed community, if you want it to be. There is a definite 
hierarchy, though.


G+ is the only social network I come close to understanding, and I've 
been fortunate enough to work out a combination of weirdness and pretty 
girls that I've been moderately successful there. I've made a number of 
friends/contacts there that have been good for me and the things I find 
important. We got speakers for the Camera Clinic at GFM both last year 
and this from G+.


It's a myth, BTW, that G+ is a ghost town. The users are there. It's 
just up to you to find them, by providing compelling, original work and 
interacting with those who have interesting work as well.



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Re: Question to Google Plusers

2013-08-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

 G+ is the only social network I come close to understanding, and I've been
 fortunate enough to work out a combination of weirdness and pretty girls
 that I've been moderately successful there. I've made a number of
 friends/contacts there that have been good for me and the things I find
 important. We got speakers for the Camera Clinic at GFM both last year and
 this from G+.

To be fair, if I were only going to be active in one social net it
might very well be G+ because I get it too. Or it gets me, or
something.

But I've cut way back on social net'ing in general. I've become
disillusioned with all of them really. I think if one is inherently
anti-social in real life it will eventually affect one's social net
interactions too. :-) I spend most of my soc-net time reading PDML.


 It's a myth, BTW, that G+ is a ghost town. The users are there. It's just up
 to you to find them, by providing compelling, original work and interacting
 with those who have interesting work as well.

I was just riffing on the popular joke, Doug. I'm quite aware that G+
is a busy place -- over 3100 folks have circled me. That number
plateaued only because I haven't been very active lately. I post an
image now and then just to fan the embers.

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Re: (My) Ricoh GR review

2013-08-11 Thread Zos Xavius
I read the google translation and it mirrors many of the other reviews
I have read. 28mm is a bit wide for me for full time use, but I'm sure
some people love it. Actually the wide angle adapter would give me
something more useful. I either want to go ultra wide, normal, or to
100-200mm. Then again a camera like this would completely change my
approach to street shooting by allowing me to get up close and
personal without feeling so awkward

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I had the chance to spend some days with the Ricoh GR and I wrote a review in 
 my friend's technology blog. In Spanish but with several example images in 
 case that you are interested in this special fixed-lens-APSC-size-sensor 
 compact camera:
 http://www.teknofilo.com/ricoh-gr-analisis/


 A fine camera with very sharp results...but not for everybody.

 Regards,
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Re: (My) Ricoh GR review

2013-08-11 Thread Zos Xavius
PS thanks for sharing. There were some nice photos in your review too. :)

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I read the google translation and it mirrors many of the other reviews
 I have read. 28mm is a bit wide for me for full time use, but I'm sure
 some people love it. Actually the wide angle adapter would give me
 something more useful. I either want to go ultra wide, normal, or to
 100-200mm. Then again a camera like this would completely change my
 approach to street shooting by allowing me to get up close and
 personal without feeling so awkward

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I had the chance to spend some days with the Ricoh GR and I wrote a review 
 in my friend's technology blog. In Spanish but with several example images 
 in case that you are interested in this special fixed-lens-APSC-size-sensor 
 compact camera:
 http://www.teknofilo.com/ricoh-gr-analisis/


 A fine camera with very sharp results...but not for everybody.

 Regards,
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Re: First experiments with IR adapted K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Zos Xavius
Msashimi..

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll never eat sushi again!

 I like sashimi better in any event .  .  .  .
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have to agree with others that the sushi looks revolting. A couple
 of the shots look like ones that have faded after 15 years in the sun
 on a cardboard advert in a restaurant window.

 To me the other shots look like you've documented a Ghoul's Night Out. :-)

 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Cutting to the chase:
 A friend and I went out for sushi before going dancing.  There are some
 strong artistic limitations to IR photography, the set also includes
 a couple randoms from the afternoon:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635017858426/

 This set was shot at Friday Night Blues.  The thing that got me into
 IR in the first place was being able to use a flash without blinding
 people, each shot is processed in both color and BW:
 http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157635011398151/

 I got my K-5 back from Pro Camera Repair yesterday.  They repaired the 
 broken
 sensor, and converted it to (full spectrum) IR for $350, which is about $100
 less than CRIS wanted to just repair it.

 Most of my photos in the afternoon/evening were just of random things, 
 because
 I had no idea how anything would turn out.  I snuck out of the office, and 
 ran
 down to San Jose camera. They had a 77mm, Hoya IR filter for $109, which is
 about what BH charges.  Meanwhile Keeble and Schuchat wanted something like
 $240 for a 77mm IR filter.  Neither one had a 49mm filter.

 I haven't been able to find a good source on an IR block filter, to convert
 the camera back to visible only.

 Comments, suggestions, feedback and ideas for processing are appreciated on
 these photos.  They are *very* experimental, it is almost like learning
 photography all over again.  Some observations and notes:

 1) In camera exposure metering is very unpredictable.  I suspect that the
 metering also has IR filters over it, which weren't removed, so there is
 a strong disconnect between what the metering sees and what the meter sees.

 2) For autofocus:  If you are shooting in IR, use IR lights and live view, 
 or
 stop things down more.  Autofocus (on a full spectrum) is calibrated for
 visible light, not IR.

 3) If you get a full spectrum camera, budget a few hundred dollars for
 IR block and visible block filters for both primes (49mm ish) and Zooms
 (77mm ish).

 4) The color adjustment in LR doesn't go far enough, in either temperature
 or tint.  I will eventually experiment with two pass color correction, 
 exporting
 the file to DNG or TIFF, then running it through again.

 5) Accept the fact that photos will look weird.  Don't fight it, go with it,
 and figure out ways to make that weirdness work.

 6) When things do correct to closer to natural lighting, they'll end up
 kind of flat and pastel in shading.

 7) For working with IR, you really want a camera that works well in Live 
 View
 mode.  You really want to see what the camera will be seeing.

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Re: PESO skin in IR, rope in UV

2013-08-11 Thread Larry Colen
I'm that into photographing interesting things. There are a lot of pretty 
things you can with rope. It's not my kink per se but it makes for interesting 
photos. 

Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
I didn't realize you were that into bondage, Larry.

It sounds like an interesting experiment.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9489462930/

 I was hoping that nylon rope and webbing would not reflect IR, and
would
 just appear black, so that fluorescent rope in IR and black light
would only
 show the fluorescent colors, rather than the colors mixed with the IR
 baseline.  That didnt' quite work,  but the technique does show a
 bit of promise:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9489462930/

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Re: Question to Google Plusers

2013-08-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/11/13 8:51 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


I was just riffing on the popular joke, Doug. I'm quite aware that G+
is a busy place -- over 3100 folks have circled me. That number
plateaued only because I haven't been very active lately. I post an
image now and then just to fan the embers.



yeah, I should have been more clear that I was not aiming specifically 
at you, but rather that same popular joke.


3100 is healthy. And I have noticed a falloff in your posts.

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Re: OT -- DiMage Scanner with Windows XP

2013-08-11 Thread Mark C
Its been a while but I used a Canon Canonscan FS4000 on an XP box 
running through a SCSI port. The Adaptec AHA940AU card in the XP machine 
displays a dialog box when the machine boots - before XP loads. You see 
the BIOS and then Adaptec message (with the right key strokes you can go 
in and configure it) and then XP loads. You probably checked this 
already but if the SCSI card shows up as functioning properly in device 
manager then I would expect the scanner to work. I still have the SCSI 
card in my XP box and see that start up message every time I boot up.


The power supply on my XP box blew a while back, and while it was out of 
commission I ran the Canoscan via its USB 1.1 interface off my laptop, 
running 32 bit vista. It was slow but the output was fine. However, it 
would not work with Vuescan or the Canon software until I installed the 
device drivers. I initially tried running the scanner, via the USB 1.1 
interface, on a 64 bit WIndows 7 machine, but could not get it to work.


I used a Minolta Diamage scanner as one of my first dedicated film 
scanners and loved it Don't remember the exact model number. . The DMAX 
for slides was not so hot and it had problems with shadows on slide 
film, but it nailed the color balance of slide and C-41 film better than 
any other scanner I have ever used, and I've used a lot of them.


Mark

On 8/11/2013 5:26 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Well it's kind of OT but not really.  A friend of mine is trying to 
get his DiMage (I believe it's a Scan Multi), working with WinXP. It 
was last used with a Windows 98 box, and has been in storage for the 
last few years.  I tried to diagnose his problems on the phone, but 
that didn't work out as well as I would have liked.


He's using an Adaptec SCSI card that according to the manufacture's 
site has native XP Drivers embedded in the OS. However the Minolta 
supplied software didn't recognize the scanner and neither did the OS.


I suggested that he download Hamrick VueScan, which caused a 
bluescreen when first started, and after rebooting it didn't see the 
scanner either.  I'm kind of at a loss, has anyone else here used an 
older SCSI scanner with XP successfully?  If so what steps did you take?





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Re: First experiments with IR adapted K-5

2013-08-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 07:11:05PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I'll never eat sushi again!

Those pictures were chosen to show both the strengths and weaknesses
of IR and full spectrum photography.  I think we can conclude that 
IR is not suitable for taking appetizing pictures of food.

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Re: PESO - Eastbound

2013-08-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com:


Wonderful!  You make our landscapes look beautiful!  Cheers, Christine




Thanks, Christine.

It's not hard to make landscapes look beautiful when they *are* beautiful...


Cheers

Brian

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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/




On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Another railway shot - but with spectacular scenery in Glacier  
National Park:


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP3763-K5-1peso.html

A larger version is here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/_IGP3763-K5-1peso-lg.jpg

Comments, of course, always welcome.

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Re: PESO x2 from my weekend

2013-08-11 Thread David Mann
Thanks, Dan.  I was wanting to take a photo of the birds lined up along the 
barrier but the wind  tide were not cooperating and I didn't have the patience 
to try and get closer.

It was a nice day though.  Each time I go there I find myself being able to 
paddle for longer so it's nice to see the time in the gym is having an effect.

Cheers,
Dave

On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I really like the PoV on the first shot.  Nice image.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:58 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 We went up to visit my father-in-law this weekend and the region managed to 
 turn on some unexpected weather on Saturday, so we made the most of it.
 
 Nice Day For A Paddle:
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/642/#peso
 
 Kaiteriteri Beach:
 http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/643/#peso
 
 Both are cellphone pics and are completely unprocessed except for a slight 
 crop of the second one to remove some foreground shadows.  I didn't even 
 take the DSLR on this trip...
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 
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PESO: Dianthus

2013-08-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17491773
Comments are invited.

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Re: How often do you back up your hard drive?

2013-08-11 Thread David Mann
On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:46 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 a few years ago i contracted at a large corpse where another department (on 
 which my department relied for file services) managed to obliterate a RAID 
 array (RAID is safe, right?) and in the process discovered their (untested) 
 backups were also faulty … heads rolled; the situation i had been brought in 
 to clean up (i am a software janitor) was even more tenuous, but from the 
 start i had advocated protective measures, so i was made to seem very wise

I know a guy who used to work at Telecom.  He once told me about a telephone 
exchange that crapped itself and lost its data, so they went to restore from 
backup.

The trouble is, they'd had a software update a couple of years previously that 
had a bug which caused it to write corrupt data to the backup.  So they had to 
re-enter everything from paper records.

 quite recently i took a retainer for improving a website and said one of the 
 first things i needed to do was confirm the site was properly backed up; i 
 soon got word from the previous contractor that he didn't think the backups 
 were working; the clients, while failing to give me any way to check the 
 backups, and thus making it impossible to set up a staging server, 
 nonetheless insisted i rush a major reconfiguration of the site; when the 
 clients clearly didn't understood nor accept the liability of this approach, 
 i told them it wasn't going to work and said goodbye

Very wise move.  You have a good CYA plan :)

Cheers,
Dave


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