Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe
I thought the same as Ann regarding the standing pine. Must get to Lake Tahoe someday! Cheers, Christine > On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > ah - if you had mentioned what lens you used I missed it... The > standing pine looks like it is no more than ten feet from the wall > > ann > >> On 10/17/2013 23:33, Jack Davis wrote: >> Thanks for commenting, Ann. >> I can't recall the relative distance between the near building wall and the >> burned stump. My sense is that they were about the same distance from the >> camera. Oddly, the burned stump almost seemed to have been a separate event. >> I know absolutely nothing about the history of the place. >> As I mentioned, the near building was really nothing but a wall behind which >> was partially burned and unburned debris from two decaying cabin/shed like >> buildings. >> I believe the standing pine was as much as 30 or 40 feet further away.(??) >> >> Jack >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele >> wrote: >> Well the sign shot is funny, of course >> The cabin shot is nice, but I'm trying to figure out the story... >> the distance between the wall of the cabin and the tree that burnt seems >> to make the cabin a very narrow one... was it perhaps a shed of some >> kind? and the tree behind survived the fire.. would be interesting to >> discover the whole story. OR is it just a camera angle that makes the >> burnt tree and the cabin wall look closer together than they are >> >> ann >> >> >>> On 10/17/2013 09:25, Jack Davis wrote: >>> Wife and I took a drive to Lake Tahoe yesterday. Was a beautiful Fall >>> weather day, but we missed the peak fall colors. >>> Found a cabin and out building with just one standing side and another >>> unique scene along the shore of the lake. >>> >>> Comments invited. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=713 >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=714 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: test
Think I finally got it sorted! Cheers, Christine > On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: > > No funkiness here... > >> On 18 October 2013 07:28, Christine Aguila wrote: >> Something funky going on with my email >> >> Cheers, Christine >> >>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> copy that >>> On 10/18/2013 6:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: test >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso, photos from our Thanksgiving long week end in Madawaska Ontario
I agree with everyone! It's a lovely set. Cheers, Christine > On Oct 16, 2013, at 7:10 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-madawaska1/album/index.html > > Mostly with the K-5, one with the G3 ir. > > Annual trek up north for the long weekend, turkey, beer and such > > Dave > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Oct 18, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Brian Walters > wrote: >> Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi : >>> On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. >>> >>> You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot >>> of facts about one of those. :-) >> >> The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. > > I don't feel hampers much. Ewww! Stop airing your dirty laundry here! >>> >>> Just another way to wring out a good yarn. >> >> Yeah. We should spin this thread out as long as possible. > > I wool quietly leave now. Nothing here but a bunch of guys knit picking fantasy specifications . . . stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
main board is bad
A few weeks ago, I went to use my IR modified K-5 and it was dead. I shipped it back to pro-camera, and they said that the main board has gone bad. They will do the repairs with free labor, but have to charge for the cost of a new board ($215). Someone just posted that the had a K-5 with a cracked body. Are you interested in selling it "for parts"? Please drop me a note off list. Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced > last night
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:36:18AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > > On 10/18/2013 7:56 AM, Tom C wrote: > >> BTW have you got a chance to listen to Paul McCartney's new album > >> entitled "New"? It was released in US on 10-15. As usual, I love most > >> tracks. > > > > I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for letting me know. > > I can't refer to the PDML for a lot of camera savvy for the cameras I use > these days, but I find it often very helpful to find the latest in music and > other entertainment. > > Bought it, listening to it now. Excellent. Thanks Tom. :-) Speaking of music that Boris might like, I heard a cut off the latest Mark Knopfler on KPIG last night. Very nice, as to be expected. The thing that surprised me was how at the start it sounded so much like Dave Alvin. I think it would be very interesting if the two of them teamed up. But in any case, Boris should check out Dave Alvin. His band, or one of them is Dave Alvin and the Guilty Men, but he recently did some work with an all woman backup band, "the guilty women" which was excellent. Back in college, I was a big fan of his band "the Blasters". I believe he has some Blasters songs in his collection, they are very good but almost completely unlike Alvin's later work. Privateering is this week's feature on KPIG's fresh pork chops, where they play a couple cuts off a new album each night for a week: http://www.kpig.com/index.cfm/article_17.htm Interesting, the video linked to on that page is the California Honeydrops, a band I know well: http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99496143@N00&q=honeydrops > > G > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi : >> On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>> When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past >>> week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both >>> wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any >>> better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, >>> and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual >>> performance. >> >> You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot >> of facts about one of those. :-) > > The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. I don't feel hampers much. >>> >>> Ewww! Stop airing your dirty laundry here! >> >> Just another way to wring out a good yarn. > > Yeah. We should spin this thread out as long as possible. I wool quietly leave now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Olympus E-M1 - under exposure recovery
That's a nice little experiment and very pleasant results. Of course, I staying pat with the EM5 for now. I live one generation behind. Steve Desjardins On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Wrote a little something on this for the DPR mFT forum: > > http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52327502 > > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mid-30s Ford V-8
All three look excellent to me - for different reasons. Great tonality and use of DOF and reflections. Mark On 10/10/2013 7:43 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: On display at our local Historical Society's Applefest last weekend...unfortunately, the owner wasn't around to close the hood for me. Think it's a 1935... http://studio1941.com/applefest/index.html 3947 printed as a 13x19 on Red River Polar Pearl Metallic paper. K-5, Tamron 18-200mm -p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red Rocket
Nice capture. Relic from the days when people actually cared enough about what things looked like to do a little extra to make them look interesting. On 10/9/2013 7:04 PM, knarf wrote: All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/red-rocket.html?m=1 I think they can be chartered, too. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
Yeah, but what about the batter? -Original Message- >From: Mark Roberts >Subject: Re: As good as it gets > >Bruce Walker wrote: > >>On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> I cannot help but notice this little fellow: >>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ >>> >>> The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an external >>> viewfinder and rather small batter. >> >>It's half-baked. > >That's preferable to the alternative: being deep fried. > >-- >Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia >www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi : On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot of facts about one of those. :-) The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. I don't feel hampers much. Ewww! Stop airing your dirty laundry here! Just another way to wring out a good yarn. Yeah. We should spin this thread out as long as possible. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Oct 18, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past > week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both > wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any > better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, > and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot of facts about one of those. :-) >>> >>> The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. >> >> I don't feel hampers much. > > Ewww! Stop airing your dirty laundry here! Just another way to wring out a good yarn. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: > When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. >>> >>> You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot >>> of facts about one of those. :-) >> >> The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. > > I don't feel hampers much. Ewww! Stop airing your dirty laundry here! -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>> When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past >>> week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both >>> wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any >>> better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, >>> and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. >> >> You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot >> of facts about one of those. :-) > > The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. I don't feel hampers much. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past >> week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both >> wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any >> better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, >> and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. > > You forgot about the new Panasonics and Olympus cameras. I have a lot > of facts about one of those. :-) The question is whether you feel in any way hampered by those facts. Given your presence on this list, that's rather unlikely. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Smileys are for wimps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Les Montrealais
I'd have preferred to see more of the guy on the right, but great expressions on both. On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:52 PM, knarf wrote: > Alexandre and Sebastien are Montreal bike messengers who were recently > visiting Toronto: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/les-montrealais.html?m=1 > > Just a fun little snap. Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. > > Cheers, > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - McGARR!!!
A fine portrait, Frank. The lighting worked well for you; sufficient soft light on his face and outlining backlight. Good stuff! On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:13 PM, knarf wrote: > Jesse is another Montreal messenger. He yells a lot (especially on line) > hence the capital letters. He's a gregarious, loud, fun-loving character. > > Another quick snap, I've always been a sucker for a big smile: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/10/mcgarr.html?m=1 > > Taming the late day sun was a problem but I guess it could have been worse. > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > Cheers, > frank > “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso, photos from our Thanksgiving long week end in Madawaska Ontario
Very nice gallery, Dave! I especially liked #24 -- wonderful shot. -- Walt On 10/16/2013 7:10 PM, David J Brooks wrote: http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-madawaska1/album/index.html Mostly with the K-5, one with the G3 ir. Annual trek up north for the long weekend, turkey, beer and such Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
Psst: pun alert, Boris. ;-) You said "batter" On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > How do you know? > > > On 10/18/2013 9:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> >>> I cannot help but notice this little fellow: >>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ >>> >>> The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an >>> external >>> viewfinder and rather small batter. >> >> >> It's half-baked. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
Brooks Jensen of LensWork magazine posted this morning that he has put in his order for one of these. It looks darn nice as a compact carry about ... kind of how I use the Olympus E-PL1 but even smaller. G On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Indeed. It seems we're having a great year as far as new camera announcement > go. Pretty much everyone introduced wonderful cameras and excellent lenses to > go along. > > I cannot help but notice this little fellow: > http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced > last night
On Oct 18, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 10/18/2013 7:56 AM, Tom C wrote: >> BTW have you got a chance to listen to Paul McCartney's new album >> entitled "New"? It was released in US on 10-15. As usual, I love most >> tracks. > > I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for letting me know. I can't refer to the PDML for a lot of camera savvy for the cameras I use these days, but I find it often very helpful to find the latest in music and other entertainment. Bought it, listening to it now. Excellent. Thanks Tom. :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 10/18/2013 7:52 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: >>On Fri, Oct 18, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>>Aahz, you appear to not notice that the size/weight/convenience >>>takes a rather big step when you move from APS-C DSLR to m43 >>>mirrorless. It is less so when you move from the likes of Nikon >>>D7000 to Nikon D600. I've held both and D600 is pretty darn >>>convenient. >>> >>>In fact, K3 is bigger/heavier than Sony A7 or whatever is the name >>>of that camera... >> >>You are discounting the lenses for some reason > > At this time you can choose from 43 cropped E-mount lenses and 3 > full frame ones. Pentax(*) offers significantly more choices: 55 > cropped lenses and 49 full frame ones. So you have a point. However, > you can buy an adapter (that, admittedly, will make your camera > bigger, heavier and more (like $250-$350) expensive) that will allow > you to mount Minolta lenses on your Sony camera without loosing AF > and probably other functionality as well. > > However, I don't believe that Sony would introduce the cameras > without well defined plan as to new lenses introduction. > > (*) This includes not just Pentax but all 3rd party lens brands as > well. The same is for Sony. You are missing the point. Because of the crop factor, FF lenses are larger/heavier than APS-C, which in turn are larger/heavier than m4/3. The fact that FF bodies are relatively not much larger/heavier than APS-C doesn't change the lens size/weight equation. Unless FF can achieve significantly better results, why would anyone get it? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ <*> <*> <*> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On 18 Oct 2013, at 19:48, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Bruce Walker wrote: > >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >>> >>> I cannot help but notice this little fellow: >>> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ >>> >>> The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an external >>> viewfinder and rather small batter. >> >> It's half-baked. > > That's preferable to the alternative: being deep fried. > Oh my Cod! Not another bun thread! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
Bruce Walker wrote: >On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> I cannot help but notice this little fellow: >> http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ >> >> The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an external >> viewfinder and rather small batter. > >It's half-baked. That's preferable to the alternative: being deep fried. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
How do you know? On 10/18/2013 9:22 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: I cannot help but notice this little fellow: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an external viewfinder and rather small batter. It's half-baked. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
Well, Bruce, I specifically stressed the fact that I was only comparing the prices. So I suppose it was dollars and dollars... On 10/18/2013 9:19 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Apples and oranges, Boris. But yeah, relative to the comparable Pentax FA 50/1.4 at $447, Nikon wins that round. :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Nikon AF-S 50/1.4G - $419 at B&H, Nikon AF 50/1.4D - $339 at B&H So, if it is only the prices at B&H that is the deciding criteria, Pentax looses. On 10/18/2013 2:23 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Who said Pentax wasn't cheaper? :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Nikon 58mm/1.4 portrait lens at B&H: $1700 Pentax 55mm/1.4 portrait lens at B&H: $800 Go Pentax! On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: That link takes me to the 24-70/2.8 Canon zoom. Oops. Here's the right link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892349-REG/Canon_8035b002_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html It's a mere $2400. That makes the price of switching a lot higher than one might think based on the price of the camera alone. Indeed. My collection of Pentax glass is what keeps me in the fold :-) On Oct 17, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: And the 'simpler' 24mp model with aa filter is usd 1700. $1700 now. In six months? A year? How long till full-frame hits $1500? According to T.O.P. the Canon 6d is selling TODAY for $1574.00 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/843008-USA/Canon_5175B002_EF_24_70mm_f_2_8L_II.html (Apparently you have to "put it in your basket" to see the final price revealed.) -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > I cannot help but notice this little fellow: > http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ > > The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an external > viewfinder and rather small batter. It's half-baked. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
Apples and oranges, Boris. But yeah, relative to the comparable Pentax FA 50/1.4 at $447, Nikon wins that round. :) On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Nikon AF-S 50/1.4G - $419 at B&H, > Nikon AF 50/1.4D - $339 at B&H > > So, if it is only the prices at B&H that is the deciding criteria, Pentax > looses. > > > On 10/18/2013 2:23 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> Who said Pentax wasn't cheaper? :) >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Bruce Walker >> wrote: >>> >>> Nikon 58mm/1.4 portrait lens at B&H: $1700 >>> Pentax 55mm/1.4 portrait lens at B&H: $800 >>> >>> Go Pentax! >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: > That link takes me to the 24-70/2.8 Canon zoom. Oops. Here's the right link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892349-REG/Canon_8035b002_EOS_6D_Digital_Camera.html > It's a mere $2400. That makes the price of switching a lot higher than > one might think based on the price of the camera alone. Indeed. My collection of Pentax glass is what keeps me in the fold :-) > On Oct 17, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: > >> Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> Boris Liberman wrote: >>> And the 'simpler' 24mp model with aa filter is usd 1700. >>> >>> >>> $1700 now. In six months? A year? How long till full-frame hits >>> $1500? >> >> >> According to T.O.P. the Canon 6d is selling TODAY for $1574.00 >> >> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/843008-USA/Canon_5175B002_EF_24_70mm_f_2_8L_II.html >> (Apparently you have to "put it in your basket" to see the final price >> revealed.) >> >> >> -- >> Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia >> www.robertstech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -bmw >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: test
No funkiness here... On 18 October 2013 07:28, Christine Aguila wrote: > Something funky going on with my email > > Cheers, Christine > >> On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: >> >> copy that >> >>> On 10/18/2013 6:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: >>> test >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
Indeed. It seems we're having a great year as far as new camera announcement go. Pretty much everyone introduced wonderful cameras and excellent lenses to go along. I cannot help but notice this little fellow: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gm1/ The only drawbacks I'm seeing is lack of immediate way to attach an external viewfinder and rather small batter. But, boy, this thing is slightly smaller than Pentax Q7, albeit heavier, but it has so big a sensor in comparison. In terms of technological breakthrough - I think this is the most important announcement as of recently. If I were Pentax executive - I might have been starting to get worried. Boris On 10/18/2013 8:17 AM, Larry Colen wrote: When you consider all of the amazing camera announcements of the past week, The K-3, the full frame mirrorless sonys, the Nikons with both wifi and GPS, the new Fuji, it is hard to imagine things getting any better. We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced > last night
On 10/18/2013 7:56 AM, Tom C wrote: BTW have you got a chance to listen to Paul McCartney's new album entitled "New"? It was released in US on 10-15. As usual, I love most tracks. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for letting me know. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
On 10/18/2013 4:47 PM, Tom C wrote: I think you misunderstood me here Boris. I wasn't saying they have to make it the least expensive out there. I was saying it would be difficult for them to BE the least expensive out there, given the quantity they would likely produce. I had to re-read the above paragraph at least twice to finally see your point. Well, then we have no disagreement here. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
I have looked B&H: At this time you can choose from 43 cropped E-mount lenses and 3 full frame ones. Pentax(*) offers significantly more choices: 55 cropped lenses and 49 full frame ones. So you have a point. However, you can buy an adapter (that, admittedly, will make your camera bigger, heavier and more (like $250-$350) expensive) that will allow you to mount Minolta lenses on your Sony camera without loosing AF and probably other functionality as well. However, I don't believe that Sony would introduce the cameras without well defined plan as to new lenses introduction. Boris (*) This includes not just Pentax but all 3rd party lens brands as well. The same is for Sony. On 10/18/2013 7:52 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote: Aahz, you appear to not notice that the size/weight/convenience takes a rather big step when you move from APS-C DSLR to m43 mirrorless. It is less so when you move from the likes of Nikon D7000 to Nikon D600. I've held both and D600 is pretty darn convenient. In fact, K3 is bigger/heavier than Sony A7 or whatever is the name of that camera... You are discounting the lenses for some reason -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
On 10/18/2013 7:29 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I think that it is becoming clear that the APS-C format hits a real sweet spot for making use of a LOT of legacy glass, as well as having digitally optimized lenses available. I can't tell you how happy I am with the K-5ii. You don't have to give up the wide end (as much as you do with 4/3). Lots of reasonable choices are there, like the Pentax 12-24mm and the Sigma 10-20mm (with their effective 15-18mm FOVs). And you get a decent 50% boost on the telephoto end (with a 200mm giving you an effective 300mm FOV). The sensor is large enough that you can keep noise down, even with a lot of pixels on the sensor, and shallow DOF is available with fast lenses, if that is your thing. I agree with this assessment. In fact, I should amend it by noting that APS-C DSLR is certainly not a sweep spot. K-01 could be as far as Pentax K mount goes. Further, Sigma 10-20 is rather monstrous in its size. Pentax 12-24 seems somewhat smaller/lighter. In my view sweet spot is Fuji lines of cameras and the likes of Ricoh GXR. To clarify it even further, I am talking from the standpoint of my style/needs of shooting. Yours is obviously different, and thus K-5 suits you. Which is a good thing. The new Sony cameras give you nothing other than the big sensor. You give up the shake reduction. One guy on dpreview put it this way: + Fullframe Sensor: K-5=no A7=yes - Autofocus: K-5=yes A7=no - Lens Correction: K-5=yes A7=no - Viewfinder: K-5=OVF A7=EVF ? GPS: K-5=optional A7=? - Image Stabilization: K-5=yes A7=no Other than getting a full frame sensor, everything else is a big downgrade. Darren, do tell me - are you being serious here? I mean - you don't have to preach Pentax to members of Pentax Discuss Mailing List, do you? Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
> From: Darren Addy > > The new Sony cameras give you nothing other than the big sensor. You > give up the shake reduction. One guy on dpreview put it this way: > > + Fullframe Sensor: K-5=no A7=yes > - Autofocus: K-5=yes A7=no > - Lens Correction: K-5=yes A7=no > - Viewfinder: K-5=OVF A7=EVF > ? GPS: K-5=optional A7=? > - Image Stabilization: K-5=yes A7=no > > Other than getting a full frame sensor, everything else is a big downgrade. > OK Darren. You've been perturbed when I've made negative remarks about Pentax as a brand or corporation, and have said that if only I'd used a K-5 I wouldn't feel that way about Pentax. I've explained that it would not have made a difference, as I was talking about the corporation and the Pentax 'ecosystem' not a specific product. Never did I denigrate the K-5 itself and neither have I the K-3, as I haven't used them Let's look at what you just wrote through the lens of intellectual honesty. > The new Sony cameras give you nothing other than the big sensor. You > give up the shake reduction. That's an interesting statement to make on many levels. The photography world is ablaze right now about these two cameras because of the expected image quality potential. They are loaded with features, and the FF sensors in such diminutive bodies is indeed the preeminent attraction. Your statement is such an obviously blanket statement it can't be taken seriously, The A7's like many other Sony's, Nikons, and Canon's do not have in body shake reduction. But implying the camera system is not capable of image stabilization is leaving an important point out. The virtues of both body-based and lens-based approaches to stabilization have been debated for years. Quite frankly, while I appreciate image stabilization, and would prefer body-based stabilization because of universality, it's not everything. Low light, it's helpful. Long telephotos or zooms, it's helpful. In many situations it does not make a difference and is still not as fool-proof as a tripod and mirror lockup (no mirrors of course on the A7's). > + Fullframe Sensor: K-5=no A7=yes Correct > - Autofocus: K-5=yes A7=no What? Both the A7 and A7R are autofocus bodies. The A7 has a hybrid phase/contrast detect AF whereas the A7R is contrast detect AF. To say the A7's don't have AF is, at face value, an incorrect statement. - Lens Correction: K-5=yes A7=no I'm not sure where this comes from and I searched for verification but couldn't find anything other than that Sony offers an app for lens corrections. However the NEX-6 and NEX-7 have built-in lens correction for native E-mount lenses. It would seem to me that Sony could or would continue this for native E-mount lenses. And of course ACR allows lens profile based corrections as well as manual adjustment. I'll admit I don't know the facts on A7 in-camera lens correction. > - Viewfinder: K-5=OVF A7=EVF There's been much debate on OVF vs EVF as you know. Many have no problem with EVF's and there's circumstances where they're preferable. It's a matter of preference or even just getting used to what the camera comes with. Basically if you can look in a viewfinder and clearly see the scene you wish to capture, it's doing the job intended. This can't be empirically categorized as a + or -. > ? GPS: K-5=optional A7=? Rather meaningless as it's an accessory. Who know's what accessories will be available in the future for the A7's? I'd say that for the vast majority of users, including myself a GPS on a camera is way way down on the list of must-haves. > - Image Stabilization: K-5=yes A7=no Addressed above. The A7's do not have in body stabilization, but to leave it at that without making the additional statement that lens-based stabilization is available with certain lenses, doesn't tell the whole story. > Other than getting a full frame sensor, everything else is a big downgrade. I'm not sure if that's your statement or of the fellow your quoting, but it's again a blanket statement - Made about specific products by someone (who I would guess) has not so much as seen them in person, much less picked one up and used it for any amount of time, has not experienced how the product handles, or examined the output image quality produced, since they won't be released to the public until December. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Didcoveries at Lake Tahoe
ah - if you had mentioned what lens you used I missed it... The standing pine looks like it is no more than ten feet from the wall ann On 10/17/2013 23:33, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks for commenting, Ann. I can't recall the relative distance between the near building wall and the burned stump. My sense is that they were about the same distance from the camera. Oddly, the burned stump almost seemed to have been a separate event. I know absolutely nothing about the history of the place. As I mentioned, the near building was really nothing but a wall behind which was partially burned and unburned debris from two decaying cabin/shed like buildings. I believe the standing pine was as much as 30 or 40 feet further away.(??) Jack On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Well the sign shot is funny, of course The cabin shot is nice, but I'm trying to figure out the story... the distance between the wall of the cabin and the tree that burnt seems to make the cabin a very narrow one... was it perhaps a shed of some kind? and the tree behind survived the fire.. would be interesting to discover the whole story. OR is it just a camera angle that makes the burnt tree and the cabin wall look closer together than they are ann On 10/17/2013 09:25, Jack Davis wrote: Wife and I took a drive to Lake Tahoe yesterday. Was a beautiful Fall weather day, but we missed the peak fall colors. Found a cabin and out building with just one standing side and another unique scene along the shore of the lake. Comments invited. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=713 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=714 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - McGARR!!!
Seems to me your snap is a fine portrait - lots of personality and no pretense ann On 10/17/2013 22:13, knarf wrote: Jesse is another Montreal messenger. He yells a lot (especially on line) hence the capital letters. He's a gregarious, loud, fun-loving character. Another quick snap, I've always been a sucker for a big smile: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/10/mcgarr.html?m=1 Taming the late day sun was a problem but I guess it could have been worse. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Autumn-scapes :)
this is better - the tree on the right and the darker sky both help upping the contrast would help - some cropping so that the tree isnt quite so far to the right (that is, chop off from the left and, while you are at it a bit off the bottom.) I didn't see the need to comment on the other as I would have jsut been repeating Ken and others comments. ann On 10/18/2013 00:33, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM, wrote: Other than the colors, I'm not sure what I should be looking at - ie I don't see any compositional elements - line, shape, form etc Unfortunately I agree about the lack of composition in my picture. It's more a snapshot of the autumn colors while on the road, made from the single vantage point I've had access to (although this doesn't make a good excuse). (In fact since I've got the K-30 this spring I've been photographing mostly city-scapes and mid-day landscapes, thus the first change I got to catch something more colorful I was itching to put it out.) Let's see if the other snapshot taken from the same vantage point is better from a composition point of view. http://data.volution.ro/ciprian/bdf753de58c560bc/44ff10a8138027c8/variant-a--x800.jpg And the larger variant (~3.5 MiB) http://data.volution.ro/ciprian/bdf753de58c560bc/44ff10a8138027c8/variant-a--x1080.jpg Ciprian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Fryday
Just a couple things I don't need sitting around. #1 Pentax FA28-105 $75 It's a good lens, but I got spoiled by LF and really don't want to keep even good lenses. #2 Hasselblad outfit 500C, black 80/2.8 T*, C12 & A12 backs, Prism, w/l, quick-focus lever, grip, more $900 Et al #3 KEF Coda III speaker pair $100 Great sounding little bookshelf units. + shipping & PP expenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The full frame Sony A7 & A7R were officially announced last night
> From: Boris Liberman > > Indeed. It took me several days to get used to the button instead of > keyhole for ignition in our rented car in Europe. It took me then few > ugly attempts to press a button that wasn't there when we got home. > That happens to me every time. Last week I had a pushbutton ignition rental car. This week not. For the first several days I threw the key fob in the center console and went to push the button. > In general, I think that to say that such and such camera has bad > ergonomics either should assume that it is perspective of just one > person, the one who writes, or it is intellectually dishonest. > I agree. What kind of ergonomics did the entire range of Pentax and other manufacturers DSLR's in the 60's - 80's have? Somehow we figured out how to make our hands and fingers operate them. Amazing! >> It would be very difficult for Pentax to sell a FF camera for less >> than the A, considering economies of scale. Just putting a FF sensor >> in a K-3 and adding the additional cost would bring it close, not to >> mention additional likely changes to shutter, stabilization, and more. > > Well, I have to disagree with you here, Tom. Pentax is not forced to > make their first FF camera be the cheapest out there. Pentax has some > strong selling points such as serious weather resistance or shake > reduction (and now this variable anti aliasing technology too) that may > allow it to position themselves somewhere in the middle of the pack. > I think you misunderstood me here Boris. I wasn't saying they have to make it the least expensive out there. I was saying it would be difficult for them to BE the least expensive out there, given the quantity they would likely produce. >> Claiming the K-3 is a better camera without evidence, and denying the >> advantages of FF as if they are irrelevant simply because one does not >> have them or may not be able to afford them at the moment goes to my >> first point . > > To make it even more general - neither camera has seen the light of day. > We had some previews from DPReview and the likes and that's it. We > honestly don't know anything about real use of these cameras, so how > could we honestly produce blanket statements such as K-3 is better than > A7 or A7 is better than K-3? > > Boris I couldn't agree more. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FSF: Cult Classic Vivitar Series-1 90-180mm f4.5 Flat Field (macro)
>Fred Wasti had a web site where he showed how he did it... >Regards, Bob S. I usually just take a needle-nose or dikes and snap 'em off. Quick, clean, and no metal shavings/dust from cutting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: test
Got it! On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:29 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Something funky going on with my email Cheers, Christine > On Oct 17, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: > > copy that > >> On 10/18/2013 6:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: >> test > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Old/new lenses on FF (was K3 problem using flash and AA)
I see it as a mixed bag. I have some old film lenses that were great on film and are great on digital - A* 200 f4 macro, A*400 f2.8, Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EX. But, my Kiron 105 2.8 macro, which was great on film, is not too good on digital. On the other hand, the Tokina ATX 400 f5.6, which was so-so on film,positively shines on digital. My guess is that film benefited more from the lens resolution but digital sensors benefit more from lens actuance (edge contrast). You are probably correct that most film lenses will not look so great on a FF sensor, especially around the edges. Mark On 10/16/2013 3:14 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: I also agree that new lenses are better, even on APS-C. I use almost exclusively new lenses on my K-5IIs (DA 12-24 + DA 17-70 + DA* 50-135, all together exceeding 95% of my shots ), with the FA 31 and FA 77 Limiteds as the few noticeable exceptions to my all-digital approach. However, I have the feeling that many FF lenses are more troubled when dealing with modern digital FF cameras than they are on APS-C models. But the very point is "once you buy a FF DSLR now, you have to buy new lenses too". Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Old/new lenses on FF (was K3 problem using flash and AA) My first digital experience was with Pentax full frame lenses on an *istD. It was not pleasing. CA and fringing were frequently a problem. I never owned some of the best full frame lenses, but I came away from my early digital efforts convinced that new lenses designed for APS-C digital were the way to go. I now use DA* lenses almost exclusively on my K-5, and I'm extremely pleased with the performance. Looking forward to trying them on the K-3. I expect they'll make a great team. Paul On Oct 16, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Practical experience shows that the best old FF lenses are quite decent performers on APS-C sensors, sometimes comparable to good 'digital' lenses (at least up to 12-16 megapixels), except for a typical higher CA and purple fringing. That's because you get rid of the weaker part of their image field. Oh, and that only applies to focale lengths around 35mm or longer (most if not all older wide-angle lenses are much overperformed by current APS-C digital sensors). On the other hand, I still have to find a single 'analog' lens which is comparable to newer lens designs on FF sensors with a pixel count of 24 or 36 MP. Heck, even most FF digital designs cannot cope with the D800 sensor! Sure you can use whatever lens you like on a modern FF DSLR (provided you can fit and focus it), but don't expect to exploit their potential. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: J.C. O'Connell Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K3 problem using flash and AA My Reply : I disagree with regards to full frame. As long as the corner performance of the FF lenses matches 2/3 of the performance of the APSC lenses the overall system performance of FF will be equal to or greater than the Aps performance. Generally speaking, you dont need as high a performance FF lenses for better overall system performance than apsc. Its a larger format, it has more overall lines of resolution even if the absolute line pairs/mm is lower. Regard no AA filter, aliasing occurs when the incoming spatial frequencies are too fast for the sampling. With a high resolution sensor and cheaper lower resolution lenses, NO aliasing will likely occur. Aliasing is more likely to occur with super high spec ultra high resolution * or APO lenses, not average or poor ones. On 10/16/2013 9:38 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Darren Addy wrote: Cameras with no AA filter are going to separate the "men from the boys" as far as lenses are concerned. It is going to make APO and Star lenses almost mandatory. Either that or you are going to have to "enjoy" a lot more time in post-processing. This problem is exacerbated by a full frame sensor which uses the corners of the image circle that are getting cropped out by an APS-C camera. In short, those who want a full frame DSLR are either going to have to use their best lenses with it, or procure some. My reply: I keep telling that to all those funky boys begging Pentax for a full frame camera and counting on good lenses of the past they already own and treasure. Once FF will be available, you'll have to buy a whole new lens outfit based on new-generation lenses (provided they will be made available) or be satisfied with so-so performance. That's well known by Canon and Nikon shooters, and mostly neglected among dreaming Pentaxians. In brief, putting together a Pentax FF outfit won't cost you less than switching to Canon or Nikon, the advantage being you won't have to do that all at once. Dario -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http:
Re: In case Samyang lenses are too expensive for you
On Oct 2, 2013, at 12:03 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > You might as well hunt KEH for an M 85mm f2.0. What are you saying about this lens? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "Our world is a human world." - Hilary Putnam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 Silver
:-) Well, actually my Ricoh GR has almost the same size as my iPhone 4, just a little thicker, so it wouldn't draw more attention then my phone. The image quality is a lot better. DagT Sendt fra min iPad > Den 18. okt. 2013 kl. 08:46 skrev "Jens" : > > Anything, but a cellphone, will draw attention :-) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/10315931935/ > > > Regards > Jens > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > >> On Oct 13, 2013 20:50 "DagT" wrote: >> I agree. I want to take pictures, not draw attention. >> DagT >> >> 13. okt. 2013 kl. 20:43 skrev Paul Stenquist >> : >> >>> I passed. Ordered a black k3 and battery grip. Don't want to stand >>> out, and all of my lenses are black. >>> >>> Paul via phone >>> On Oct 13, 2013, at 8:12 AM, DagT wrote: Head of the FB group of Pentaxians in Norway has had K10D, K-5 in silver, and has already ordered the silver K-3. He expects the 2000 will be sold out very soon or already. Five K-5 were preordered in Norway but only one arrived through the official channels. So if you want one you have to order now. DagT (And yes, the silver Limiteds look great on those cameras) Sendt fra min iPad > Den 13. okt. 2013 kl. 13:14 skrev Paul Ewins > : > > I agonised over it because I very much wanted a silver K3 but > didn't see a use for the grip. In the end I bit the bullet and > ordered the silver kit mostly because I hated the way the FA24, 43 > and 77 (all silver) look on my black K5. I guess there is a risk > that the Silver K3 will be available later by itself but as I'm > not paying a premium (apart from the cost of the grip I may not > use) I don't feel too ripped off. In fact, like most Australians, > I am rejoicing that we pay the same price as the US customers. > > I would rather have waited for solid reviews but if the silver > kits sell out and there is no rerun then I would be much more > annoyed. I know they are calling it a limited edition of 2000, but > that might just mean there will only be 2000 editions of the > complete kit, so the only truly limited piece might be the > leather strap. That's just a guess, but I can't understand why > they would bother bringing out silver versions of the new HD > limiteds and then have so few potential buyers. > > Paul Ewins > Melbourne, Australia. > >> Hi >> Some guy at Flickr said that he wanted the silver version, >> without the grip, which he didn't need. (The siver version is >> only available with the grip included). >> >> I think that the Silver edition actually is quite cheep. You get >> the grip and one extra battery and a leather strap for appr. 250 >> Euro more. That's a very reasonable pricetag. I usually pay 250 >> Euro for the grip alone - no silver, no leather strap and no >> extra battery. >> >> I guess I'll order the silver version very soon - it's simply >> beautiful! >> And I happen to own three silver "limited" lenses - 31 mm, 43 mm, >> 77 mm. They af VERY nice, beautifully manufactured lenses, that >> can produce very fine images. >> >> It's funny, that they only make 2000 copies of the Pentax K-3 >> Silver edition. >> I guess they are all gone in early November!Regards >> >> Jens > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: As good as it gets
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 00:47:46 -0500 Walt wrote: > >We have all of these groundbreaking cameras to talk abount, >>and none of us are hampered by single fact about their actual performance. >> >It's kind of ironic that I picked this particular time to get obsessed with >guitars, isn't it? >I think I seriously have a problem. Nah, in my experience such obsessions tend to 'cycle' in the amount of attention they draw :) For me it is cameras, guitars and computer stuff ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
