date:20140206

A friend's birthday was yesterday, and she's the one who started a tradition of 
a bunch of us who get together every Thursday morning at 7:30 for coffee and 
breakfast. I made this little triptych for her as a card …

 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/felipe-jack-GDG-roger-composit_2014.jpg

Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. 

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Re: PESO - Hoary Window

Thanks, Rick. I couldn't get perpendicular to the window, but I like the effect 
too.

Thanks to all who commented and looked!

cheers,
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On 5 February, 2014 9:20:57 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:
>Late to the party, but I like the pic a lot, and find the narrow DOF
>very intriguing.  It almost looks as though you shot the branches of a
>tree.
>
>Rick
>
>On Feb 5, 2014, at 13:08 , knarf wrote:
>
>> The narrow dof was because I was hand holding balanced precariously
>on a table next to the only sunny window in the house. I wanted high
>shutter speed to give me some sharpness. 
>> 
>> I couldn't get perpendicular to the glass hence the oof parts
>off-centre. 
>> 
>> I kind of like the effect. No re-attempts because the frost is long
>gone.
>> 
>> Thanks to all who commented and looked.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> On 5 February, 2014 9:49:13 AM EST, Paul Stenquist
> wrote:
>>> I agree. A fascinating shot. I’m wondering why the difference in
>focus?
>>> Is some of the frost on the other side of the glass or on another
>piece
>>> of glass? Would more DOF have been a plus here? Not sure.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:11 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> 
 Excellent
 
> On 5 Feb 2014, at 02:53, knarf  wrote:
> 
> During last week's freeze, one morning the sun was shining on the
>>> frost:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2014/02/hoary-window.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. 
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel
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Re: PESO: Boy Flower

Perhaps they should call them "man flower"?

Nice photo, Dan.

Cheers,
frank

On 6 February, 2014 12:45:58 AM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>Hmm. I wonder why. :-)
>
>Godfrey
>
>
>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 9:33 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola"
> wrote:
>> 
>> That is what they are called here in Hawai'i
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17667161
>> Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO - Lake Promenade

Attila, Jack, thanks for your kind words and thanks to all who looked. 

More snow tonight.

More pix to come.

Cheers 
frank

On 6 February, 2014 6:05:34 AM EST, Attila Boros  wrote:
>Nice winter scene.
>
>On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:15 PM, knarf  wrote:
>> It's the street that runs along the Lake's edge just west of me. The
>houses that you could see on the left (were they visible) back onto the
>Lake and are rather expensive. Rich people live here.
>>
>> I took this on Saturday duing a snowfall. It's snowing harder today
>so it probably looks the same:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/02/lake-promenade.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>> "Analysis kills spontaneity." -- Henri-Frederic Amiel
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Re: PESO - Lake Promenade

Great idea, Dave. Thanks for the comment. 

Cheers, 
frank

On 6 February, 2014 2:30:25 AM EST, David Mann  wrote:
>On Feb 6, 2014, at 7:15 am, knarf  wrote:
>
>> It's the street that runs along the Lake's edge just west of me. The
>houses that you could see on the left (were they visible) back onto the
>Lake and are rather expensive. Rich people live here. 
>> 
>> I took this on Saturday duing a snowfall. It's snowing harder today
>so it probably looks the same:
>> 
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/02/lake-promenade.html?m=1
>
>That's nice.  You should take the same pic during summer to show the
>difference.
>
>Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Two Soldier Re-enactors At Tennessee History Festival

That's a fine photograph. 

Cheers,
frank

On 6 February, 2014 9:54:11 PM EST, Jeffery Johnson 
 wrote:
>While I still have access to the internet and an email account figure I
>
>will share one from back in the Summer.
>
>Two Soldier Re-enactors At Tennessee History Festival
>http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p727738336/h2787956

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

She's a beauty, isn't she?

Such a joy to use.

Cheers,
frank

On 6 February, 2014 10:06:00 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
wrote:
>Oh yes … forgot to mention it, frank, but these were taken with the
>Leica CL. I still find using that camera to be a delight in every way.
>:-)
>
>G
>
>On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:07 AM, knarf  wrote:
>
>> Cool!
>> 
>> On 5 February, 2014 11:23:33 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi
> wrote:
>>> A minimal moment ...
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506825/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506185/

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread Bill


On 06/02/2014 9:53 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Not to disrespect your choices, but I find autofocus to be less than
helpful (at the very least, unnecessary) for macro work. You might
want to consider manual lenses, too.



Depends on how close the macro is.
The D FA100/2.8 is a good macro choice. It's a little long on the APS-C 
format, but the 50 is on the short side (YMMV), and I would prefer to 
err on the side of more working distance than less.
In the Pentax line up, good macro lenses to avoid are the early FREE 
designation ones. Which is too bad, because they really are excellent 
lenses. Unfortunately they hot spot fairly easily.


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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

2014-02-06 Thread Juan Buhler

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Miserere  wrote:

> Don't listen to Cotty, he only understands photographing in drab grey light 
> from overcast British skies ;-) You've made the high contrast work 
> wonderfully. Keep at it!

LOL thanks!

Back to the K3--I love it. If I'm not using 100% of the time it is
because along with it I got a Leica M9 to replace my M8, and I'm in
love with that too. Amazing what you get when you wait a few years to
upgrade your cameras :)

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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

On February 6, 2014 8:22:26 PM EST, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>Thanks guys!
>
>Cotty--yes, I might have gone too far with the darkness. I was
>shooting in the sun, with very harsh light, and I thought maybe that
>look would work. Some times I need to revisit work and re render it a
>few months after the fact. It seems like this is going to be one of
>those times :)
>
>j
>
>On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Miserere  wrote:
>> On February 6, 2014 12:12:53 AM EST, Juan Buhler
> wrote:
>>>Several weeks ago I asked here about whether I should get a K3 or
>move
>>>to full frame with a Canon.
>>>
>>>I stayed with Pentax, and got the K3. I installed a KatzEye screen in
>>>mine, because I wanted to use some manual lenses, like the K25/3.5
>and
>>>K30/2.8
>>>
>>>I love this camera! I am amazed at the quality of these files. The
>>>autofocus is finally fast enough for me--I didn't think the old screw
>>>AF technology would ever be any good, but this actually works well.
>>>The whole camera seems quite a bit faster than the K5. And frankly,
>>>after seeing the quality I'm getting, I don't think I'll be using the
>>>K5 or the K-01 much anymore.
>>>
>>>It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>>>image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>>>
>>>http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
>>>
>>>Can't wait to see where Ricoh takes Pentax DSLRs in the future. This
>>>first effort is brilliant.
>>>
>>>j
>>
>>
>> This one is tremendous, Juan:
>>
>> http://www.jbuhler.com/san-francisco-2014-2/
>>
>> (Hope it linked correctly)
>>
>> But excellent work all around.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
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Juan, 

Don't listen to Cotty, he only understands photographing in drab grey light 
from overcast British skies ;-) You've made the high contrast work wonderfully. 
Keep at it! 

Cheers,


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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread Darren Addy

Not to disrespect your choices, but I find autofocus to be less than
helpful (at the very least, unnecessary) for macro work. You might
want to consider manual lenses, too.



On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:40 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> remember on aps-c BOTH the 50mm and 100mm
> are already telephoto equivalents.  The 50mm is
> closer to normal and the 100mm gives the most
> perspective compression in usage.
>
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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

2014-02-06 Thread Juan Buhler

Thanks guys!

Cotty--yes, I might have gone too far with the darkness. I was
shooting in the sun, with very harsh light, and I thought maybe that
look would work. Some times I need to revisit work and re render it a
few months after the fact. It seems like this is going to be one of
those times :)

j

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> On February 6, 2014 12:12:53 AM EST, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>>Several weeks ago I asked here about whether I should get a K3 or move
>>to full frame with a Canon.
>>
>>I stayed with Pentax, and got the K3. I installed a KatzEye screen in
>>mine, because I wanted to use some manual lenses, like the K25/3.5 and
>>K30/2.8
>>
>>I love this camera! I am amazed at the quality of these files. The
>>autofocus is finally fast enough for me--I didn't think the old screw
>>AF technology would ever be any good, but this actually works well.
>>The whole camera seems quite a bit faster than the K5. And frankly,
>>after seeing the quality I'm getting, I don't think I'll be using the
>>K5 or the K-01 much anymore.
>>
>>It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>>image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>>
>>http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
>>
>>Can't wait to see where Ricoh takes Pentax DSLRs in the future. This
>>first effort is brilliant.
>>
>>j
>
>
> This one is tremendous, Juan:
>
> http://www.jbuhler.com/san-francisco-2014-2/
>
> (Hope it linked correctly)
>
> But excellent work all around.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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Re: PESO The Great Debate

2014-02-06 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thu Feb 6 10:06:06 EST 2014
Miserere wrote:

> On February 6, 2014 8:04:16 AM EST, Mark Roberts  robertstech.com> wrote:
> >Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >>Submitted for your amusement:
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/
> >
> >It's a bit derivative...
> 
> But they could both be integrated into a balanced diet. 
> 

It might get too kinky to differentiate.

Cheers,

Igor

PS. Larry, smart, fun idea!


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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

Oh yes … forgot to mention it, frank, but these were taken with the Leica CL. I 
still find using that camera to be a delight in every way. :-)

G

On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:07 AM, knarf  wrote:

> Cool!
> 
> On 5 February, 2014 11:23:33 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>  wrote:
>> A minimal moment ...
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506825/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506185/


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Re: New Pentax 70-200mm lens upcoming

2014-02-06 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thu Feb 6 20:24:58 EST 2014
Matthew Hunt mph at pobox.com

> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> 
> > Do Ricoh care about Pentax? I think they do!
> >
> > http://photorumors.com/2014/02/06/new-2014-pentax-k-mount-lens-roadmap-published-with-a-new-70-200mm-lens/
> 
> That sure sounds like a full frame lens, and they didn't state the
> designation (e.g. DA) like they do for the others.

I thought it would be a DA* lens, but you might be right, and it would
be just a * (star) lens.

I would be also interested in something that looks like 16(17?)-85,
especially if it is f/4 or faster.

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Re: No more Pentax Optio line

2014-02-06 Thread Bill


On 06/02/2014 9:59 AM, John wrote:

But will it be eligible for the PUG or the Annual?



Why not? Pentax is evolving, why can't the PUG?

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PESO: Two Soldier Re-enactors At Tennessee History Festival

2014-02-06 Thread Jeffery Johnson

While I still have access to the internet and an email account figure I 
will share one from back in the Summer.


Two Soldier Re-enactors At Tennessee History Festival
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p727738336/h2787956


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Re: New Pentax 70-200mm lens upcoming

2014-02-06 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Miserere  wrote:

> Do Ricoh care about Pentax? I think they do!
>
> http://photorumors.com/2014/02/06/new-2014-pentax-k-mount-lens-roadmap-published-with-a-new-70-200mm-lens/

That sure sounds like a full frame lens, and they didn't state the
designation (e.g. DA) like they do for the others.

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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

On February 6, 2014 12:12:53 AM EST, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>Several weeks ago I asked here about whether I should get a K3 or move
>to full frame with a Canon.
>
>I stayed with Pentax, and got the K3. I installed a KatzEye screen in
>mine, because I wanted to use some manual lenses, like the K25/3.5 and
>K30/2.8
>
>I love this camera! I am amazed at the quality of these files. The
>autofocus is finally fast enough for me--I didn't think the old screw
>AF technology would ever be any good, but this actually works well.
>The whole camera seems quite a bit faster than the K5. And frankly,
>after seeing the quality I'm getting, I don't think I'll be using the
>K5 or the K-01 much anymore.
>
>It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>
>http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
>
>Can't wait to see where Ricoh takes Pentax DSLRs in the future. This
>first effort is brilliant.
>
>j


This one is tremendous, Juan: 

http://www.jbuhler.com/san-francisco-2014-2/

(Hope it linked correctly) 

But excellent work all around. 

Cheers,


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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell


remember on aps-c BOTH the 50mm and 100mm
are already telephoto equivalents.  The 50mm is
closer to normal and the 100mm gives the most
perspective compression in usage.

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

2014-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist

Only for the narrow minded few.

Paul via phone

> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
>>> Sent: 06 February 2014 22:44
>>> To: pentax list
>>> Subject: Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG
>>> 
>>> On 6/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
 I already have ...
>>> 
>>> Oh don't get me wrong - I can appreciate the abilities of the photographer
>>> in capturing the scene, the technical competence and the artistic merit of
>>> the composition and so on.
>>> 
>>> But...minimalismjustdoes.
>>> .somethingto ..mAAARRRGGHhh..
>> 
>> Less minimalism, is that what you want? But less is more. So what is it you
>> want - more minimalism or less minimalism? When is too little minimalism too
>> much?
> 
> I want to know if it's possible to go over the top with minimalism.
> 
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread Larry Colen

On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 02:35:41PM -0500, Glen Berry wrote:
> Please help me decide on a used Pentax macro lens. I've narrowed it
> down to these two used lenses:
> 
> 50 F2.8 SMC MACRO D FA
> 100 F2.8 SMC D FA MACRO
> 
> What are the pros and cons of the 50mm vs the 100mm?
> 
> What applications would the 50mm be best for?
> 
> What applications would the 100mm be best for?

With macro, as in regular photography, focal length affects the following
things:

1) working distance.  If you don't have room to move further back, you
need a shorter lense.  If you can't, or don't want to, get closer, you
need a longer lens.

2) How much of the background is visible (at a specific magnification).
A shorter lens will have a wider field of view, and will show more of the 
background.  So, if you are taking a picture of a flower in your yard, 
and want to show the yard in the back of the frame (albeit out of focus)
you will want the shorter lens.  If, however, you want to isolate the 
subject from the surroundings, or only have a smaller backdrop, then you 
want to shoot from further away with a longer lens.

Note, that this also holds true with portaiture.  

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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread Mark C

I have both of those lenses. Working distance on the 50mm is pretty 
tight if you want magnification at 1:1 or so.  The 100 mm gives you a 
lot more room.


I bought my 50 for use in extreme macro situations - reverse mounted on 
extension tubes or bellows. You can easily get to 4x to even 10x 
magnification without getting too out of hand with the extension when 
reverse mounted. The smaller 50mm lens is also easier to use on 
extension - less wegiht, less awkward. As a general purpose lens 50mm is 
also a very useful. For bugs and even a lot of botanical work the short 
working distance of a 50 can be a problem - it gets harder to control 
lighting (especially flash), harder to not get a shadow on the subject 
and (for bugs etc) harder to not scare the subject away.


I use the 100mm far more. Much better working distance which addresses 
the issues noted above. The narrower angle of view makes it easier to 
control the background as well. When I run into larger subjects where I 
cannot use the A* 200mm macro (my main workhorse) because the working 
distance is too great, I will drop down to the 100mm. It is very rare 
that I have needed to go to the 50, though in a few cases it happens.  I 
use the DFA 100 far more than the 50.


I believe that some tests show the 50 as sharper than the 100. I've not 
compared my two lenses - I use them for very different subjects. The DFA 
100 is excellent stopped down a but is a little softer wide open, IMO.


DOF should be the same at any given magnification and F stop, so at 1:1 
there would be no difference. But - it is a lot easier to shoot at 1:1 
with the 100, because you are not right on top of the subject.


Mark



On 2/6/2014 2:35 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
Please help me decide on a used Pentax macro lens. I've narrowed it 
down to these two used lenses:


50 F2.8 SMC MACRO D FA
100 F2.8 SMC D FA MACRO

What are the pros and cons of the 50mm vs the 100mm?

What applications would the 50mm be best for?

What applications would the 100mm be best for?

Does either of them have a reputation for being noticeably sharper 
than the other?


Would the 100mm exacerbate the already shallow depth of field inherent 
in macro photography, in other words, would the 50mm have greater 
depth of field at 1:1 magnification?



Thanks, for any suggestions!





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RE: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey
> DiGiorgi
> Sent: 06 February 2014 23:23
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> Subject: Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG
> 
> On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
>  I already have ...
> >>>
> >>> Oh don't get me wrong - I can appreciate the abilities of the
> >>> photographer in capturing the scene, the technical competence and
> >>> the artistic merit of the composition and so on.
> >>>
> >>> But...minimalismjustdoes.
> >>> .somethingto
> ..mAAARRRGGHhh..
> >>
> >> Less minimalism, is that what you want? But less is more. So what is
> >> it you want - more minimalism or less minimalism? When is too little
> >> minimalism too much?
> >
> > I want to know if it's possible to go over the top with minimalism.
> 
> I meditate on 'excessive minimalism.'
> 

Don't overdo it

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

 I already have ...
>>> 
>>> Oh don't get me wrong - I can appreciate the abilities of the photographer
>>> in capturing the scene, the technical competence and the artistic merit of
>>> the composition and so on.
>>> 
>>> But...minimalismjustdoes.
>>> .somethingto ..mAAARRRGGHhh..
>> 
>> Less minimalism, is that what you want? But less is more. So what is it you
>> want - more minimalism or less minimalism? When is too little minimalism too
>> much?
> 
> I want to know if it's possible to go over the top with minimalism.

I meditate on 'excessive minimalism.'

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

2014-02-06 Thread Bruce Walker

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
>> Sent: 06 February 2014 22:44
>> To: pentax list
>> Subject: Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG
>>
>> On 6/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> >I already have ...
>>
>> Oh don't get me wrong - I can appreciate the abilities of the photographer
>> in capturing the scene, the technical competence and the artistic merit of
>> the composition and so on.
>>
>> But...minimalismjustdoes.
>> .somethingto ..mAAARRRGGHhh..
>
> Less minimalism, is that what you want? But less is more. So what is it you
> want - more minimalism or less minimalism? When is too little minimalism too
> much?

I want to know if it's possible to go over the top with minimalism.

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RE: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> Sent: 06 February 2014 22:44
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG
> 
> On 6/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I already have ...
> 
> Oh don't get me wrong - I can appreciate the abilities of the photographer
in
> capturing the scene, the technical competence and the artistic merit of
the
> composition and so on.
> 
> But...minimalismjustdoes.
> .somethingto ..mAAARRRGGHhh..
> 

Less minimalism, is that what you want? But less is more. So what is it you
want - more minimalism or less minimalism? When is too little minimalism too
much?

B

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

On 6/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I already have ...

Oh don't get me wrong - I can appreciate the abilities of the
photographer in capturing the scene, the technical competence and the
artistic merit of the composition and so on.

But...minimalismjustdoes.
.somethingto ..mAAARRRGGHhh..

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RE: PESO The Great Debate

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley
> Sent: 06 February 2014 22:34
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> Subject: Re: PESO The Great Debate
> 
> on 2014-02-06 24:50 Larry Colen wrote
> > Submitted for your amusement:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/
> >
> 
> 
> i got
> 
> "Bad, bad panda!
> Come on. We want photos.
> We’re aware of the problem and are fixing it. Thanks for your patience"
> 
> but before i read the part about a problem, i saw a girl pulling a plastic 
> panda
> by leash, and was mystified what the debate might be
> 

That's nothing, man.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kv1900iF061qzt6y4o1_500.jpg

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

2014-02-06 Thread steve harley


on 2014-02-06 24:50 Larry Colen wrote

Submitted for your amusement:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/




i got

"Bad, bad panda!
Come on. We want photos.
We’re aware of the problem and are fixing it. Thanks for your patience"

but before i read the part about a problem, i saw a girl pulling a plastic 
panda by leash, and was mystified what the debate might be




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Re: Creative Cloud for Photographers Program extended - yet again....

2014-02-06 Thread steve harley


on 2014-02-06 9:30 John wrote


If I sign up for PhotoshopCC and Adobe decides to raise the monthly fee enough
to price me out of the market will I still be able to go back to using CS6 then?


yes, and you can also run them side by side; note that you may have hoops to 
jump through to get your CC files to open in CS6; the farther things progress, 
the harder it may be (but the situation is relatively benign for Photoshop vs 
InDesign):




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Re: PESO The Great Debate

2014-02-06 Thread Rick Womer

That's a really crumby pun.

On Feb 6, 2014, at 15:06 , Mark Roberts wrote:

> knarf  wrote:
> 
>> On 6 February, 2014 2:50:00 AM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> Submitted for your amusement:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/
>> 
>> They who (independent of each other but almost simultaneously) discovered 
>> calculus!
> 
> They were a couple of smart cookies!
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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread J.C. O'Connell


The 100mm is best for smaller items like coins, stamps, insects, etc.
The 50mm is best for larger items like whole flowers, groups of flowers, 
product photography.


On 2/6/2014 4:17 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
At any magnification the DOF for either lens will be roughly the same 
for a give f stop.  I'd go for the 100mm for macro work it will give 
you a lot more working room at any given magnification, unless you 
expect to be working in cramped quarters then get the 50.  As far as 
optical qualities, Pentax has never made a bad macro.


On 2/6/2014 2:35 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
Please help me decide on a used Pentax macro lens. I've narrowed it 
down to these two used lenses:


50 F2.8 SMC MACRO D FA
100 F2.8 SMC D FA MACRO

What are the pros and cons of the 50mm vs the 100mm?

What applications would the 50mm be best for?

What applications would the 100mm be best for?

Does either of them have a reputation for being noticeably sharper 
than the other?


Would the 100mm exacerbate the already shallow depth of field 
inherent in macro photography, in other words, would the 50mm have 
greater depth of field at 1:1 magnification?



Thanks, for any suggestions!








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Re: Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread P.J. Alling

At any magnification the DOF for either lens will be roughly the same 
for a give f stop.  I'd go for the 100mm for macro work it will give you 
a lot more working room at any given magnification, unless you expect to 
be working in cramped quarters then get the 50.  As far as optical 
qualities, Pentax has never made a bad macro.


On 2/6/2014 2:35 PM, Glen Berry wrote:
Please help me decide on a used Pentax macro lens. I've narrowed it 
down to these two used lenses:


50 F2.8 SMC MACRO D FA
100 F2.8 SMC D FA MACRO

What are the pros and cons of the 50mm vs the 100mm?

What applications would the 50mm be best for?

What applications would the 100mm be best for?

Does either of them have a reputation for being noticeably sharper 
than the other?


Would the 100mm exacerbate the already shallow depth of field inherent 
in macro photography, in other words, would the 50mm have greater 
depth of field at 1:1 magnification?



Thanks, for any suggestions!





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Re: PESO The Great Debate

2014-02-06 Thread Paul Stenquist


On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> knarf  wrote:
> 
>> On 6 February, 2014 2:50:00 AM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> Submitted for your amusement:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/
>> 
>> They who (independent of each other but almost simultaneously) discovered 
>> calculus!
> 
> They were a couple of smart cookies!
> 
But Newton was obviously the sweeter of the two.

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

I already have ...

Godfrey


> On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 5/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506825/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506185/
>> 
>> Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated.
> 
> You really really really wouldn't appreciate mine ;-

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

Thanks, frank!

Godfrey


> On Feb 6, 2014, at 11:07 AM, knarf  wrote:
> 
> Cool!
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
>> On 5 February, 2014 11:23:33 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>>  wrote:
>> A minimal moment ...
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506825/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506185/

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

knarf  wrote:

>On 6 February, 2014 2:50:00 AM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>Submitted for your amusement:
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/
>
>They who (independent of each other but almost simultaneously) discovered 
>calculus!

They were a couple of smart cookies!

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Which Macro Lens?

2014-02-06 Thread Glen Berry

Please help me decide on a used Pentax macro lens. I've narrowed it down 
to these two used lenses:


50 F2.8 SMC MACRO D FA
100 F2.8 SMC D FA MACRO

What are the pros and cons of the 50mm vs the 100mm?

What applications would the 50mm be best for?

What applications would the 100mm be best for?

Does either of them have a reputation for being noticeably sharper than 
the other?


Would the 100mm exacerbate the already shallow depth of field inherent 
in macro photography, in other words, would the 50mm have greater depth 
of field at 1:1 magnification?



Thanks, for any suggestions!


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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

2014-02-06 Thread Walt


Thank you, Frank!

She may sound that lovely in better hands than mine. I'm truly unworthy 
of her, but I'm working on it.


At the moment, I sound awful. I wasn't prepared for how thin the neck 
would be, so it's going to take some practice. Luckily, she's the kind 
of guitar that makes you want to keep practicing.


-- Walt


On 2/6/2014 12:56 PM, knarf wrote:

She's a beauty!

Beautiful blond finish, lovely patina and I especially like that pearl 
pick-guard.

I bet she sounds as lovely as she looks.

Congrats!

Cheers,
frank

On 5 February, 2014 7:12:51 PM EST, Walt  wrote:

After much waiting and angst-ridden anticipation, my '72 Fender
Telecaster Thinline Reissue arrived today.

Meet "Millie":

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

Next, the Orange PiX CR35LDX combo amp, which I hope to get next week
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Re: PESO - Dream when you are feeling blue

Violet suede shoes?

Just doesn't sound right...

:-)

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On 6 February, 2014 10:34:04 AM EST, John  wrote:
>On 2/4/2014 2:08 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>>
>> It might look fishy, but that's how blues maY feel (or look):
>> http://42graphy.org/misc/aquarium-2014/_IR09860.html
>>
>> Comments are welcome.
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>
>I've got a pair of Hush Puppies that same color.

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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

I don't care what camera, that's just brilliant work.

Cheers,
frank

On 6 February, 2014 12:12:53 AM EST, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>Several weeks ago I asked here about whether I should get a K3 or move
>to full frame with a Canon.
>
>I stayed with Pentax, and got the K3. I installed a KatzEye screen in
>mine, because I wanted to use some manual lenses, like the K25/3.5 and
>K30/2.8
>
>I love this camera! I am amazed at the quality of these files. The
>autofocus is finally fast enough for me--I didn't think the old screw
>AF technology would ever be any good, but this actually works well.
>The whole camera seems quite a bit faster than the K5. And frankly,
>after seeing the quality I'm getting, I don't think I'll be using the
>K5 or the K-01 much anymore.
>
>It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>
>http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
>
>Can't wait to see where Ricoh takes Pentax DSLRs in the future. This
>first effort is brilliant.
>
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Re: PESO - Dream when you are feeling blue

Beautiful colours!

cheers,
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On 4 February, 2014 2:08:41 PM EST, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
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>It might look fishy, but that's how blues maY feel (or look):
>http://42graphy.org/misc/aquarium-2014/_IR09860.html
>
>Comments are welcome.
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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

Cool!

Cheers,
frank

On 5 February, 2014 11:23:33 PM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
wrote:
>A minimal moment ...
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506825/
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506185/
>
>Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 
>
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Re: PESO The Great Debate

They who (independent of each other but almost simultaneously) discovered 
calculus!

 Brilliant juxtaposition, and fun, too.

Cheers,
frank

On 6 February, 2014 2:50:00 AM EST, Larry Colen  wrote:
>Submitted for your amusement:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/

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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

She's a beauty!

Beautiful blond finish, lovely patina and I especially like that pearl 
pick-guard.

I bet she sounds as lovely as she looks. 

Congrats!

Cheers,
frank

On 5 February, 2014 7:12:51 PM EST, Walt  wrote:
>After much waiting and angst-ridden anticipation, my '72 Fender 
>Telecaster Thinline Reissue arrived today.
>
>Meet "Millie":
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/
>
>Next, the Orange PiX CR35LDX combo amp, which I hope to get next week 
>when I finally get paid for the wedding I photographed a couple of
>weeks 
>ago.
>
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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

2014-02-06 Thread Walt


On 2/6/2014 12:41 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 5/2/14, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:


Meet "Millie":

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

Fantastic!


Thank you, Cotty!

Somehow, I knew you'd appreciate her. :)

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Re: PESO 2014 - 044, 045 - GDG

On 5/2/14, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506825/
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/12324506185/
>
>Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 

You really really really wouldn't appreciate mine ;-)

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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

On 5/2/14, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Meet "Millie":
>
>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)

2014-02-06 Thread Walt


On 2/6/2014 10:48 AM, John wrote:

On 2/5/2014 7:12 PM, Walt wrote:

After much waiting and angst-ridden anticipation, my '72 Fender
Telecaster Thinline Reissue arrived today.

Meet "Millie":

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

Next, the Orange PiX CR35LDX combo amp, which I hope to get next week
when I finally get paid for the wedding I photographed a couple of weeks
ago.

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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

On 6/2/14, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>
>http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3

Loving the high contrast.

Found the first couple a tad dark on my monitor.

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

On February 6, 2014 12:09:19 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:
>My debate would be between Fig Newmans and dark chocolate McVittie's.
>
>Rick
>
>On Feb 6, 2014, at 02:50 , Larry Colen wrote:
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For those that are missing the subtext and geek humour in Larry's photo: 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz%E2%80%93Newton_calculus_controversy

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

2014-02-06 Thread Rick Womer

My debate would be between Fig Newmans and dark chocolate McVittie's.

Rick

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Re: GESO: Musical Enablement (4 images)


On 2/5/2014 7:12 PM, Walt wrote:

After much waiting and angst-ridden anticipation, my '72 Fender
Telecaster Thinline Reissue arrived today.

Meet "Millie":

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157640557765545/

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ago.

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Re: Creative Cloud for Photographers Program extended - yet again....

John  wrote:
>
>If I sign up for PhotoshopCC and Adobe decides to raise the monthly fee 
>enough to price me out of the market will I still be able to go back to 
>using CS6 then?

Yes. As long as Adobe chooses to keep honoring software "activation"
for that product, at least.

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New Pentax 70-200mm lens upcoming


Do Ricoh care about Pentax? I think they do! 

http://photorumors.com/2014/02/06/new-2014-pentax-k-mount-lens-roadmap-published-with-a-new-70-200mm-lens/

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Re: Creative Cloud for Photographers Program extended - yet again....


On 2/4/2014 4:15 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting John :


On 2/3/2014 5:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

What happens if you sign on to Photoshop CC (or any of the other
Creative Cloud apps) and Adobe decides to raise the monthly price – a
lot – somewhere on down the line?

Don't answer that. I know the answer.




That's one question. The other one that I *DO* want answered is:

What happens to the version of Photoshop CS6 I already paid $400 for
the upgrade?



Well, it's yours to keep.  The only issues are whether it continues to
run on any future operating system you install and whether Adobe
continues to update Camera Raw to support future cameras (which seems
unlikely).  However, it would probably continue to open DNG files from
future cameras.




If I sign up for PhotoshopCC and Adobe decides to raise the monthly fee 
enough to price me out of the market will I still be able to go back to 
using CS6 then?


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Re: No more Pentax Optio line

2014-02-06 Thread P.J. Alling

Sure, if it's got a Pentax lens on it. You know Ricoh would do well to
brand all interchangeable lenses as Pentax anyway, after all Ricoh was
never known for their lenses.

On 2/6/2014 10:59 AM, John wrote:

But will it be eligible for the PUG or the Annual?

On 2/5/2014 10:32 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Ricoh Q? Ugh. I surely hope not.

What difference does it make? A Ricoh Q will undoubtedly work as well
as a Pentax Q.

Paul

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:09 AM, P.J. Alling
wrote:
What I take from it is Ricoh following through on the announced
plan to put
all SLR products under the Pentax brand and pretty much all other
camera
products under the Ricoh brand. Now that the "advanced" GXR seems
to be
discontinued I'm wondering when the Q series will be moved under
the Ricoh

banner, after all it's not an SLR.

On 2/5/2014 9:49 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

All ricoh nowtake from that what you willl...

http://photorumors.com/2014/02/04/new-ricoh-wg-20-and-wg-4-compact-cameras-leaked-pentax-name-is-gone/#more-54296

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Re: No more Pentax Optio line

But will it be eligible for the PUG or the Annual?

On 2/5/2014 10:32 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Ricoh Q? Ugh. I surely hope not.

What difference does it make? A Ricoh Q will undoubtedly work as well as a
Pentax Q.

Paul

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:09 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

What I take from it is Ricoh following through on the announced plan to put
all SLR products under the Pentax brand and pretty much all other camera
products under the Ricoh brand. Now that the "advanced" GXR seems to be
discontinued I'm wondering when the Q series will be moved under the Ricoh
banner, after all it's not an SLR.

On 2/5/2014 9:49 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

All ricoh nowtake from that what you willl...

http://photorumors.com/2014/02/04/new-ricoh-wg-20-and-wg-4-compact-cameras-leaked-pentax-name-is-gone/#more-54296

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Re: OT: Problem with G5 PowerMac


Get a cheap USB housing for a SATA drive & use it as external storage.

Something like:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7664387&CatId=2780

Install a copy of MacDrive on the PC & you probably wouldn't even have 
to reformat the drive.



On 2/4/2014 10:50 PM, David Mann wrote:

I have an update.

I haven't tried the G5 again since the last time I posted as I
decided it was getting a bit futile.

Instead I had a brainwave and ended up ordering a cheap Firewire card
for my ancient PC - the one that the G5 replaced!  It's scanning a
slide right now.  The card cost me $25 including shipping so I'm a
happy camper.  I didn't even have to upgrade the OS - it's all
running happily under Windows ME(!).

So my current plan is to sell the G5 for parts... after I come up
with a way to scrub the hard drives as I don't have anything else
with a SATA plug.

Cheers, Dave

On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:08 pm, David Mann  wrote:


Hi all,

I started up my old G5 to do some slide scanning today but it seems
to be on the blink.  At first I had some strange problems
communicating with the scanner but it came right and I got a couple
of scans done.


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Re: PESO - Dream when you are feeling blue


On 2/4/2014 2:08 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


It might look fishy, but that's how blues maY feel (or look):
http://42graphy.org/misc/aquarium-2014/_IR09860.html

Comments are welcome.

Igor




I've got a pair of Hush Puppies that same color.

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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

On February 6, 2014 10:12:15 AM EST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>On Feb 6, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>>> 
>>> It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>>> image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>>> 
>>> http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
>> 
>> Dude!  You're in the Bay Area.  We should have a PDML gathering.
>
>Indeed! When and where's the party?
>
>G


And furthermore, who's paying for my plane ticket out there??? 

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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

2014-02-06 Thread Juan Buhler

Sorry to hear... :(

I'm not in the Bay Area! We were there for a week last month. We are
in my home town, south of Buanos Aires, about to start the drive to
the Andes. Back in the Bay Area in August!

j

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 03:12:53AM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote:
>>
>> I love this camera! I am amazed at the quality of these files. The
>> autofocus is finally fast enough for me--I didn't think the old screw
>> AF technology would ever be any good, but this actually works well.
>> The whole camera seems quite a bit faster than the K5. And frankly,
>> after seeing the quality I'm getting, I don't think I'll be using the
>> K5 or the K-01 much anymore.
>
> I really don't need to read things like this a week after getting
> laid off.
>
>>
>> It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>> image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>>
>> http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
>
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Re: A couple of weeks with the K3

On Feb 6, 2014, at 12:04 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

>> 
>> It isn't many yet, and you can't really see the sharpness on a web
>> image, but here are the K3 photos I have posted to my blog so far:
>> 
>> http://www.jbuhler.com/?s=k3
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Indeed! When and where's the party?

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

On February 6, 2014 8:04:16 AM EST, Mark Roberts  
wrote:
>Larry Colen  wrote:
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>>Submitted for your amusement:
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/
>
>It's a bit derivative...

But they could both be integrated into a balanced diet. 

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Re: ingp

2014-02-06 Thread Bob Walkden

Thanks. Actually everything is fine. I've just moved the mail hosting from the 
previous provider to  outlook, using my web-options domain, and was just 
testing that the transfer worked ok. At one point I thought I'd lost my main 
mail address, but that turned out to be ok, just my stupidity.

There was nothing wrong with the previous host, but moving it all onto outlook 
gives me a lot of benefits now that I'm using office 365 rather than 2003.
B

> On 6 Feb 2014, at 14:09, "Attila Boros"  wrote:
> 
> Looking good. You can dig online to find out what happened:
> http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Tools/dig.php
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Pgni
>> 
>> Messing about with mx records. Who knows what might have happened
>> 
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Looking good. You can dig online to find out what happened:
http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Tools/dig.php

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

Larry Colen  wrote:

>Submitted for your amusement:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/12338389215/

It's a bit derivative...


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Re: Pentax 1.4x converter

Rob Studdert  wrote:

>The Canon Lens EF 1.4X III Extender retails (from a shop that doesn't
>deep discount) at AU$529 inc 10% GST or about US$475

Yep. That Canon teleconverter sells for $499 at B&H Photo. I expect
real-world pricing of the Pentax to be right about there.

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Re: In addition to the 1.4X TC and the new 645D...

David Mann  wrote:

>On Feb 6, 2014, at 1:10 pm, Darren Addy  wrote:
>
>> Film duplication accessory
>> Model name (tentative):PENTAX Film Duplicator
>> 
>> Produces digital duplicates of silver-halide-film images in
>> combination with a digital SLR camera and a dedicated flash unit.
>> Compatible with 35mm- and medium-format films
>
>Now that would be useful.
>
>One of my backup plans for my scanner was to set up my DSLR with a macro lens. 
> It would have been very fiddly but fairly quick once set up.
>
>I wonder if it'll work with medium format film.

It claims "Compatible with 35mm- and medium-format films"
If so I'll buy one. This past month or so I've been close to buying a
new film scanner to replace my old Minolta Scan Multi. This might just
do the trick.

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Re: PESO The Great Debate

No debate, I'll take both:)

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Re: PESO - Lake Promenade

Nice winter scene.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:15 PM, knarf  wrote:
> It's the street that runs along the Lake's edge just west of me. The houses 
> that you could see on the left (were they visible) back onto the Lake and are 
> rather expensive. Rich people live here.
>
> I took this on Saturday duing a snowfall. It's snowing harder today so it 
> probably looks the same:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/02/lake-promenade.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
> "Analysis kills spontaneity." -- Henri-Frederic Amiel
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Re: PESO: Lollipop Plant