Re: On the road to GFM

2014-05-29 Thread John

The Plan is to leave Raleigh some time Friday morning.

If I leave early enough, I should have plenty of time to return to the
house for whatever I've forgotten and still make it up there before the
registration tent in the meadow closes.

On 5/28/2014 9:54 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

First leg of my trip landed me in Logan OH, adjacent to the Hocking Hills State 
Park which was featured in the Favorite Places section of a recent Outdoor 
Photographer magazine. Plan to spend some or all of tomorrow there, then on 
south to N.C. Pics to follow once I am back in civilization.

stan



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Re: From chez Brewer

2014-05-29 Thread Christine Aguila
I’m having hot tea this morning, but like Ann, I raise my mug to you two—and 
wish it were in person.  Cheers, Christine


On May 28, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I'm having an iced tea myself - raising it to both of you
 
 wish it were in person
 ann
 
 On 5/28/2014 23:04, Mark Roberts wrote:
 I'm currently at Doug Brewer's place. I'm drinking chocolate stout and Doug 
 is having iced tea with poison (his chemotherapy drugs). It was a long day 
 of riding today but tomorrow it's a relatively short four hour journey to 
 the mountain. More updates then.
 
 
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Re: From chez Brewer

2014-05-29 Thread Doug Brewer
Mark left out at about 9:15 this morning. Last I saw of him he was
filling up at the BP on the corner as I turned toward Lexington. Great
to see him and catch up, and maybe I'll get to drive down to the
mountain again next year.

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 I’m having hot tea this morning, but like Ann, I raise my mug to you two—and 
 wish it were in person.  Cheers, Christine


 On May 28, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I'm having an iced tea myself - raising it to both of you

 wish it were in person
 ann

 On 5/28/2014 23:04, Mark Roberts wrote:
 I'm currently at Doug Brewer's place. I'm drinking chocolate stout and Doug 
 is having iced tea with poison (his chemotherapy drugs). It was a long day 
 of riding today but tomorrow it's a relatively short four hour journey to 
 the mountain. More updates then.


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Re: On the road to GFM

2014-05-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
We live nearby (Columbus area) and go there every couple of years.
But I did not know of that feature.  Will have to look it up.
The best summer shooting there, imo, is to walk the trail around the lowest
part.  (But the rangers will make you stay on the trail.)
It is also a good place in winter to capture some large ice flows.

On 5/28/2014 9:54 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 First leg of my trip landed me in Logan OH, adjacent to the Hocking Hills
State Park which was featured in the Favorite Places section of a recent
Outdoor Photographer magazine. Plan to spend some or all of tomorrow there,
then on south to N.C. Pics to follow once I am back in civilization.

 stan



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Re: On the road to GFM

2014-05-29 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
A couple of shots from our last trip to Hocking Hills.  4x5.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/sets/72157644498005168/

On 5/28/2014 9:54 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 First leg of my trip landed me in Logan OH, adjacent to the Hocking Hills
State Park which was featured in the Favorite Places section of a recent
Outdoor Photographer magazine. Plan to spend some or all of tomorrow there,
then on south to N.C. Pics to follow once I am back in civilization.

 stan



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Re: OT: Robert's Rules of Order.

2014-05-29 Thread Larry Colen

On May 27, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't suppose we have any experts in Robert's Rules of Order here do we? If 
 so, and are willing to answer a couple of questions, or point me to the 
 relevant section,I would appreciate some advice.

I think Roberts' rules of order are:

Go pee.
Put on the leathers.
*Then* ride the motorcycle.

We can ask him when he gets back from GFM.

 

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Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Igor Roshchin


Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor


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Re: Does anybody know what battery the original Honeywell Pentax Spotmeter took?

2014-05-29 Thread steve harley

On 5/28/2014 6:34 PM, steve harley wrote:

not sure which is original, but i know it's not the Spot Meter V that i have;
this page (donation requested) provides manuals for two earlier ones:


P.J.'s reply made me realiz i hadn't pasted in the link

http://www.butkus.org/chinon/flashes_meters.htm


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Re: OT: Robert's Rules of Order.

2014-05-29 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-28 20:24 John wrote

I am *NOT* an expert, but I found Robert's Rules online:

http://www.rulesonline.com/


there are dozens of Robert's Rules sites, but due to the copyright on the more 
recent editions, most (legal) sites, like the one above, offer only the fourth 
edition (1915); meanwhile most bylaws cite the official _Robert's Rules of 
Order, Newly Revised_ (which is at 11th edition); the owners of the copyright 
are very protective because they want to sell books


the fundamentals are still largely the same, but it's hard to be sure what 
might have changed; i found a current edition in a thrift store, and yet i 
often first identify a relevant section via an older searchable version and/or 
a website designed to explain Robert's Rules, then i read the comparable 
section in the current edition




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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-29 13:04 Igor Roshchin wrote

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/


i'd prefer number 4, more so if the right quarter and the left eighth were 
cropped out


number 3 would be next because it too is focused well, but the composition 
loses the subject against its companions a bit


on both i'd try desaturating the background because it is overpoweringly vivid

composing plant photos is a challenge that i've fully embraced for a few years 
without feeling even close to mastery



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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Igor Roshchin

That's a great catch!
I like how it is framed, and the angle.
I also like the colored background and the way the grass
appears OOF in the foreground and in focus around the beast.

I am not 100% sure if it is the effect of JPEG, but the eye
appears slightly less sharp then I'd wish it to be.
If not an artifact of resizing, I would have increased the DOF for
that. (I like how well in focus the antlers are).

Igor


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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

 Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

 ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

 Comments solicited  appreciated.


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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 5/29/2014 3:04 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor


They are all technically good but suffer from a composition problem, the 
main subject is centered.


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Re: PESO Thriller

2014-05-29 Thread Attila Boros
Nice catch light in her eyes! Have you done processing to bring out
the color in her blouse? Looks super nice, it's a great gift.

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 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/86797080492

 While wrapping up my recent hippie-boho fashion shoot the makeup
 artist and K-3 shooter, a former model herself, wanted to show off her
 new blouse -- a gift from the stylist. Needing no direction, Judi
 grabbed a hat and channeled MJ for me.

 K-3, DA* 16-50, 125th, ISO 200.
 Three flashes firing into a white v-flat left.
 Lr, Ps + Nik, Portraiture plugins

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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 29, 2014, at 14:04 , Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 
 
 Hi All,
 
 On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
 territory of the University of Victoria.
 And the timing was just right: it was blooming.
 
 For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
 the bunch of 4:
 http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/
 
 So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
 for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
 and why (or why not).
 

I prefer #4 because the subject is in fairly-good focus, and is more distinct 
from its neighbors in the background than in the other images.

It might look a little better with a crop that is closer to square - just 
because the backgrounds to the left and right aren't really necessary.

 -Charles

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Re: Eye-Fi on K-3?

2014-05-29 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:
 isnt the term wireless tethering an oxymoron???
 So, I'm with Bill.  It's not an oxymoron in a modern context.

Ouch, just had this discussion with an English teacher a few days ago.
It isn't an oxymoron in a modern context because we specifically made
it up. Tethering as in connecting one device (usually phone / tablet)
to another device (usually laptop / PC) can be done over Wi-Fi,
Bluetooth (wireless connection) or USB or special data cable (wired
connection).

As an IT professional I sincerely apologize for the confusion created,
but I can't promise it won't happen again;-)

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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Try #1 for the lack of clutter in the background.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 Hi All,

 On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
 territory of the University of Victoria.
 And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

 For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
 the bunch of 4:
 http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

 So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
 for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
 and why (or why not).

 Thank you,

 Igor


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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Marco Alpert
 
 Hi All,
 
 On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
 territory of the University of Victoria.
 And the timing was just right: it was blooming.
 
 For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
 the bunch of 4:
 http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/
 
 So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
 for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
 and why (or why not).
 
 
 I prefer #4 because the subject is in fairly-good focus, and is more distinct 
 from its neighbors in the background than in the other images.
 
 It might look a little better with a crop that is closer to square - just 
 because the backgrounds to the left and right aren't really necessary.
 
 -Charles

I'm with Charles.

   - Marco



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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller
Of the 4 I'd say the 4th is the best since the main subject is mostly in 
focus. The 3rd would be my second choice with slightly less of the main 
subject in focus.


A drawback for me on all 4 is the busy background. It needs to be more out 
of focus.


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From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org

Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4





Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor



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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Jack Davis
Choose no's 3  4, in that order.
Slightly prefer their compositional balance.

Jack

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To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:04:07 PM
Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4



Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor


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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks for the comment Bruce.
I actually stalked him for awhile, toting the 600 rig to get just the right 
background/foreground.


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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



A most magnificent beast, nicely framed. Just the right amount of
detail to situate him in place and time. Well done, Ken!

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks for the comment Bob.
This shot was exactly the reason I wanted a 600. As it turns out most of my 
usage with it in the lower 48 is from the car. Although in this shot I 
tracked the animal on foot with the 600 to get what I wanted.


I might just see what I can do to add the catchlight.

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From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



Ken,
Very nice, excellent animal and well composed.
That 600 has served you well.
Now if you could just photoshop a little catchlight into the eye...  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On 5/29/2014 4:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Choose no's 3  4, in that order.
Slightly prefer their compositional balance.

Jack

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From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
To: PDML PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:04:07 PM
Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4



Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor



how about this crop based on #1 :

http://www.jchriso.com/temp/flower052914.jpg

jco

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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks Jack. 


Its also known as Rangifer tarandus.

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From: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



Yep, that's a Caribou.

Jack

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To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:25:48 PM
Subject: PESO - 'Caribou'

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks Bob !

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Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



Superb!

B


On 28 May 2014, at 20:26, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks Paul.

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Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



Excellent. Perfect DOF and framing.

Paul via phone


On May 28, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

A most magnificent beast, nicely framed. Just the right amount of
detail to situate him in place and time. Well done, Ken!

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com 
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Now that's a horny caribou..


Yep, its that itme of the year !

Thanks Ann.

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- Original Message - 
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



Now that's a horny caribou..

Beautiful shot, Ken

amm

On 5/28/2014 15:25, Ken Waller wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Thanks Igor for the in depth commentary, I appreciate hearing your thoughts.

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- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou' 





That's a great catch!
I like how it is framed, and the angle.
I also like the colored background and the way the grass
appears OOF in the foreground and in focus around the beast.

I am not 100% sure if it is the effect of JPEG, but the eye
appears slightly less sharp then I'd wish it to be.
If not an artifact of resizing, I would have increased the DOF for
that. (I like how well in focus the antlers are).

Igor


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller kwaller at peoplepc.com
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-29 13:51 Igor Roshchin wrote

I am not 100% sure if it is the effect of JPEG, but the eye
appears slightly less sharp then I'd wish it to be.


i noticed that too — Ken, if you are going to add a catchlight, might as well 
try selectively sharpening the eye



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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Don Guthrie
While I welcome the opportunity to see a subject through a 600mm lens by 
proxy, this photo requires congrats regardless of lens.  Well framed and 
a 3-d effect plus clarity begs compliments to the photographer and some 
credit to the tripod I assume.



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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

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Re: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC

2014-05-29 Thread Don Guthrie

And yet the K-01 takes some very lovely photos. EVF or no.

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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:36:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
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On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org  
wrote:

Quoting Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com:


Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention.

The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus
hoped for, is it?

I wonder why that is.  Quite a few on this list have gone down the
mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by failing to get a
competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al
offerings, that is).  They've shown they have the technical know-how with
the K-01 and Q series.

Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical
prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are
Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your RD and production
resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what
happened with the K-01.



I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the
market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next year.  If Ricoh
can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway).

I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D - K-3). There's no
way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in
2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a
successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik.


Let's be honest.  The K-01 was a minimal RD effort.  It was basically a
K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price
as a K30.  The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put
lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues from a
Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher
profit margin.

If Pentax had actually spent some RD money on fitting an EVF into it,
at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a
collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to
hell with what it looked like.

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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Paul

I'd agree with Bob S - #1 stands out

-p



On 5/29/2014 3:41 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Try #1 for the lack of clutter in the background.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:



Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor


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Re:Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Don Guthrie

14


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:04:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org
To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Message-ID:201405291904.s4tj47fr081...@trantor.komkon.org



Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor



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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I love the shot - wish I had thought earlier to just say nice Rack :-)
How far away were you from the ladie(s) he was showing off for?  Did you
witness any tussles with the other boys?

ann


On 5/29/2014 17:06, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Igor for the in depth commentary, I appreciate hearing your
thoughts.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



That's a great catch!
I like how it is framed, and the angle.
I also like the colored background and the way the grass
appears OOF in the foreground and in focus around the beast.

I am not 100% sure if it is the effect of JPEG, but the eye
appears slightly less sharp then I'd wish it to be.
If not an artifact of resizing, I would have increased the DOF for
that. (I like how well in focus the antlers are).

Igor


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller kwaller at peoplepc.com
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller





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Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC

2014-05-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com:


And yet the K-01 takes some very lovely photos. EVF or no.



I'm sure it does.  It has (I think) the same sensor as the K-5.

I have two problems with the K-01, the first (not surprisingly) being  
the lack of a viewfinder - my experience with the Q is that it can be  
impossible to compose accurately in strong sunlight and I'd expect the  
same problem with the K-01.


My second problem is the decision to adopt the K mount.  Apart from  
adding to the bulk of the camera, it means that you can't get various  
adapters to fit a wide range of older lenses, as you can with other  
mirrorless cameras. I would have preferred the designers to have  
followed a similar approach to the m43 designers and adopted a short  
lens registration distance while allowed the fitting of K-mount lenses  
via an AF adapter (assuming that approach would have been technically  
feasible).



Cheers

Brian

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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:36:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC
Message-ID:53867312.6000...@gmail.com
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On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian  
Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:

Quoting Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com:


Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention.

The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the manus
hoped for, is it?

I wonder why that is.  Quite a few on this list have gone down the
mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by  
failing to get a

competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the Fuji et al
offerings, that is).  They've shown they have the technical  
know-how with

the K-01 and Q series.

Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical
prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are
Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your RD and production
resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what
happened with the K-01.



I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to be in the
market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next  
year.  If Ricoh

can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway).

I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D - K-3). There's no
way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in
2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a
successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik.


Let's be honest.  The K-01 was a minimal RD effort.  It was basically a
K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price
as a K30.  The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put
lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues from a
Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher
profit margin.

If Pentax had actually spent some RD money on fitting an EVF into it,
at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a
collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to
hell with what it looked like.





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Re: Eye-Fi on K-3?

2014-05-29 Thread Bill

On 29/05/2014 2:23 PM, Attila Boros wrote:

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net:

isnt the term wireless tethering an oxymoron???

So, I'm with Bill.  It's not an oxymoron in a modern context.


Ouch, just had this discussion with an English teacher a few days ago.
It isn't an oxymoron in a modern context because we specifically made
it up. Tethering as in connecting one device (usually phone / tablet)
to another device (usually laptop / PC) can be done over Wi-Fi,
Bluetooth (wireless connection) or USB or special data cable (wired
connection).

As an IT professional I sincerely apologize for the confusion created,
but I can't promise it won't happen again;-)



Don't worry. At some point John might actually catch up to the twentieth 
century.


bill

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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:


Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).



My first pick is No. 4, mainly because it is better isolated from the  
background than the others.  Next would be No. 1




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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

#1 for me - by a lot

ann

On 5/29/2014 17:25, Don Guthrie wrote:

14


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 15:04:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Igor Roshchins...@komkon.org
To:PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Need help choosing a photo from 4
Message-ID:201405291904.s4tj47fr081...@trantor.komkon.org



Hi All,

On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
territory of the University of Victoria.
And the timing was just right: it was blooming.

For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
the bunch of 4:
http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/

So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
and why (or why not).

Thank you,

Igor





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Re: From chez Brewer

2014-05-29 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Doug Brewer
ashwoodlakephotogra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark left out at about 9:15 this morning. Last I saw of him he was
 filling up at the BP on the corner as I turned toward Lexington. Great
 to see him and catch up, and maybe I'll get to drive down to the
 mountain again next year.

You will

Dave

 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 I’m having hot tea this morning, but like Ann, I raise my mug to you two—and 
 wish it were in person.  Cheers, Christine


 On May 28, 2014, at 10:43 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 I'm having an iced tea myself - raising it to both of you

 wish it were in person
 ann

 On 5/28/2014 23:04, Mark Roberts wrote:
 I'm currently at Doug Brewer's place. I'm drinking chocolate stout and 
 Doug is having iced tea with poison (his chemotherapy drugs). It was a 
 long day of riding today but tomorrow it's a relatively short four hour 
 journey to the mountain. More updates then.


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Re: PESO Thriller

2014-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I set out to create the illusion of soft window light in the studio
using just flashes and I think I pretty much got it. The catchlight
even adds to the effect--I'm glad you noticed it.

There's no extra processing to get that colour. I just made use of my
latest enablement: an x-rite ColorChecker Passport. I snapped that
under the lighting, created a custom profile, and applied that to all
the shots in that same lighting. It makes a huge and very visible
difference to both the accuracy of the colours and their richness too,
especially reds and blues.

Thanks very much, Attila!


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice catch light in her eyes! Have you done processing to bring out
 the color in her blouse? Looks super nice, it's a great gift.

 On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/86797080492

 While wrapping up my recent hippie-boho fashion shoot the makeup
 artist and K-3 shooter, a former model herself, wanted to show off her
 new blouse -- a gift from the stylist. Needing no direction, Judi
 grabbed a hat and channeled MJ for me.

 K-3, DA* 16-50, 125th, ISO 200.
 Three flashes firing into a white v-flat left.
 Lr, Ps + Nik, Portraiture plugins

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Peso: Blooming Cactus

2014-05-29 Thread Jack Davis


Not a biggie, but one I seem to enjoy reviewing from time to time.
Must be the detail, textures and buttery blooms.
Maybe I can then, finally, file it away.

Jack

Your reaction is sought. Thanks!

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=769

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Re: Peso: Blooming Cactus

2014-05-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I can see why you enjoy it, Jack. Excellent detail, and a fine
specimen of cactus too. Is it your plant?


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 Not a biggie, but one I seem to enjoy reviewing from time to time.
 Must be the detail, textures and buttery blooms.
 Maybe I can then, finally, file it away.

 Jack

 Your reaction is sought. Thanks!

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=769

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Re: PESO - Reflections

2014-05-29 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Bruce! (I guess better to be hated for that than because I'm beautiful.)

m

On May 27, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 And a selfie too. Beautifully arranged elements in this, Marco. It's
 so orthogonal it's scary. :-) Terrific bw toning too. I hate you for
 that.
 
 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso13.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
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Re: Peso: Blooming Cactus

2014-05-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Nice Field guide shot - Engleman's prickley Pear (Opuntia engelmannii)

I know this one :-)

ann

On 5/29/2014 18:58, Jack Davis wrote:



Not a biggie, but one I seem to enjoy reviewing from time to time.
Must be the detail, textures and buttery blooms.
Maybe I can then, finally, file it away.

Jack

Your reaction is sought. Thanks!

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=769



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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread James King
J.C. O’Connell wrote on Thu, 29 May 2014 14:03:18 -0700:

 how about this crop based on #1 :
 
 
 http://www.jchriso.com/temp/flower052914.jpg

I like this crop - it eliminates some of the background clutter and what 
remains helps the balance of the composition.  Good eye!

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Re: On the road to GFM

2014-05-29 Thread Stan Halpin
It was nice, not spectacular, but quite nice. I did walks at Cedar Falls, Old 
Man, and Ash Cave. I could see this as a great resource being right there 
practically in the Columbus Metro area. The kind of place that might take 
several visits to start to find special spots.

stan

On May 29, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net 
wrote:

 We live nearby (Columbus area) and go there every couple of years.
 But I did not know of that feature.  Will have to look it up.
 The best summer shooting there, imo, is to walk the trail around the lowest
 part.  (But the rangers will make you stay on the trail.)
 It is also a good place in winter to capture some large ice flows.
 
 On 5/28/2014 9:54 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 First leg of my trip landed me in Logan OH, adjacent to the Hocking Hills
 State Park which was featured in the Favorite Places section of a recent
 Outdoor Photographer magazine. Plan to spend some or all of tomorrow there,
 then on south to N.C. Pics to follow once I am back in civilization.
 
 stan
 
 
 
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Re: Need help choosing a photo from 4

2014-05-29 Thread Stan Halpin
in #4 the background is way too cluttered. As Ken suggested, out of focus would 
be better.
In #3, it is either too much or too little. Are you trying to capture a group 
of flowers? Then you have too little depth of field, a bunch of out of focus 
flowery things hanging around the central blossom instead of a cluster of 
discernible blossoms. Are you shooting for the single blossom? You still have a 
bunch of out of focus flowery things hanging around the central blossom. This 
could be salvaged by cropping down to about the right central 10% of the image 
that shows the central detail on the central blossom. 
In #2 it is a focus problem again - the flower on the left is too out of focus 
to be in the shot but too in focus to be ignored.
#1 seems to be the best compromise though the main subject is moving and/or a 
bit out of focus itself.
But I think I would most prefer a tight crop on #3.

stan

On May 29, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 
 
 Hi All,
 
 On the recent trip to Victoria, BC, there was a nice garden on the
 territory of the University of Victoria.
 And the timing was just right: it was blooming.
 
 For one type of flowers, I have problems choosing 1 (or 2?) photos from
 the bunch of 4:
 http://42graphy.org/misc/UVicFlowers-Choose/
 
 So, I solicit help of the fellow PDMLers: Please, cast your votes
 for what is your 1st and 2nd favorite from these four (if any),
 and why (or why not).
 
 Thank you,
 
 Igor
 


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Re: Peso: Blooming Cactus

2014-05-29 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, ann. Your botanical knowledge is impressive.

Jack;-))

- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:50:28 PM
Subject: Re: Peso: Blooming Cactus

Nice Field guide shot - Engleman's prickley Pear (Opuntia engelmannii)

I know this one :-)

ann

On 5/29/2014 18:58, Jack Davis wrote:


 Not a biggie, but one I seem to enjoy reviewing from time to time.
 Must be the detail, textures and buttery blooms.
 Maybe I can then, finally, file it away.

 Jack

 Your reaction is sought. Thanks!

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=769


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OT: RAW Nashville Showcase

2014-05-29 Thread Jeffery Johnson
I, Jeffery, Photo Captures by Jeffery taking part in the RAW Nashville 
Showcase 7 to 11 PM, on Thursday, June 26, 2014 at the Cannery Ballroom. 
Details: 21+ event Fashionable Attire Tickets are $15 advance / $20 at 
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During the 4 hour showcase you will get a chance to see a nice eclectic 
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also having booth prizes.


With all of that it would be nice to have you purchase a ticket and come 
out and support my first exhibition at the RAW Nashville showcase. Even 
if you aren't able to make it out in person purchasing a ticket will 
help get the minimum of 20 tickets I need to sale and shows you care and 
are showing Photo Captures by Jeffery some LOVE and support. Don't worry 
your ticket won't go to waste as I will be giving any not able to come 
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of reasons.


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Re: Peso: Blooming Cactus

2014-05-29 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Bruce. No, it's not my plant, but one nurtured by the CA State Dept of 
Fish and Wildlife
in one of their Wildlife Areas.
I'm beginning to wonder if many of those other buds might now be open. May take 
a look.

Jack



- Original Message -
From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:35:26 PM
Subject: Re: Peso: Blooming Cactus

I can see why you enjoy it, Jack. Excellent detail, and a fine
specimen of cactus too. Is it your plant?


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:


 Not a biggie, but one I seem to enjoy reviewing from time to time.
 Must be the detail, textures and buttery blooms.
 Maybe I can then, finally, file it away.

 Jack

 Your reaction is sought. Thanks!

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=769

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Re: PESO - 'Caribou'

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Hi Ann


How far away were you from the ladie(s) he was showing off for?  Did you
witness any tussles with the other boys?


The group I tracked were all males and they were busy grazing - didn't 
observe any tussles.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



I love the shot - wish I had thought earlier to just say nice Rack :-)
How far away were you from the ladie(s) he was showing off for?  Did you
witness any tussles with the other boys?

ann


On 5/29/2014 17:06, Ken Waller wrote:

Thanks Igor for the in depth commentary, I appreciate hearing your
thoughts.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org
Subject: Re: PESO - 'Caribou'



That's a great catch!
I like how it is framed, and the angle.
I also like the colored background and the way the grass
appears OOF in the foreground and in focus around the beast.

I am not 100% sure if it is the effect of JPEG, but the eye
appears slightly less sharp then I'd wish it to be.
If not an artifact of resizing, I would have increased the DOF for
that. (I like how well in focus the antlers are).

Igor


On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Ken Waller kwaller at peoplepc.com
wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17775876

Taken in Denali National Park, Alaska

ist*D, 600mm f4.0 FA, 200 ISO

Comments solicited  appreciated.


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Re: Blooming Cactus

2014-05-29 Thread Ken Waller

Yep, definitely a blooming cactus!

A blooming cactus with yellow buds.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net

Subject: Peso: Blooming Cactus





Not a biggie, but one I seem to enjoy reviewing from time to time.
Must be the detail, textures and buttery blooms.
Maybe I can then, finally, file it away.

Jack

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Re: PESO - Reflections

2014-05-29 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Don. 

m

On May 28, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

 Two photos two photos two photos in one. A great eye walk. Like.
 
 
 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:47:01 -0700
 From: Marco Alpertma...@alpert.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Reflections
 Message-ID:99ddd445-5c51-4115-95f9-8dc188106...@alpert.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso13.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
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Re: PESO - Reflections

2014-05-29 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Brian. (FWIW, he looked less than pleased even before I photographed 
him.)

m



On May 28, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Quoting Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com:
 
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso13.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
 
 
 Excellent toning.  Great composition, although the man at the table looks 
 less than pleased about being photographed...
 
 
 -- 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
 ++
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 http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
 
 


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PESO - Sitting Gull

2014-05-29 Thread Marco Alpert
http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo14/peso14.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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GESO: On the road

2014-05-29 Thread Stan Halpin
On the road to Grandfather Mountain photo weekend. Spent the morning at Hocking 
Hills State Park in Ohio. These are the better single shots. All were done in 
sequences for later HDR and/or focus stacking post-processing, so I may be able 
to pull more out of each one later once I am back home on my real 
computer...http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p107070726

The BW rendering (in a 4x5 format for Colin) is the only one I've worked on so 
far - used Photomatix and exposures at -2, 0, and +2. Plus a little tweaking in 
LR.

stan
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Re: Trade an *istD for a Samsung NX-30 in NYC

2014-05-29 Thread P.J. Alling
Actually it uses the same version of the Prime image processor as the 
K-30 produces 12 bit per pixel data files so I expect that it actually 
uses the version of the sensor that is in the K-30 which was supposed to 
in the same family but not identical to that in the K-5.


On 5/29/2014 6:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com:


And yet the K-01 takes some very lovely photos. EVF or no.



I'm sure it does.  It has (I think) the same sensor as the K-5.

I have two problems with the K-01, the first (not surprisingly) being 
the lack of a viewfinder - my experience with the Q is that it can be 
impossible to compose accurately in strong sunlight and I'd expect the 
same problem with the K-01.


My second problem is the decision to adopt the K mount.  Apart from 
adding to the bulk of the camera, it means that you can't get various 
adapters to fit a wide range of older lenses, as you can with other 
mirrorless cameras. I would have preferred the designers to have 
followed a similar approach to the m43 designers and adopted a short 
lens registration distance while allowed the fitting of K-mount lenses 
via an AF adapter (assuming that approach would have been technically 
feasible).



Cheers

Brian

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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:36:50 -0400
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On 5/28/2014 7:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Brian 
Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:

Quoting Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com:


Sounds like a truly desperate attempt to get some attention.

The whole mirrorless thing just isn't getting the traction the 
manus

hoped for, is it?

I wonder why that is.  Quite a few on this list have gone down the
mirrorless path and I think Ricoh/Pentax is missing out by 
failing to get a
competitive mirrorless camera to market (competitive with the 
Fuji et al
offerings, that is).  They've shown they have the technical 
know-how with

the K-01 and Q series.

Regardless, what is the point of showing off your superior technical
prowess by creating a camera for a tiny market? Especially if you are
Pentax and can't afford to (a) dilute your RD and production
resources, and (b) spend hard-won money for poor returns. Look what
happened with the K-01.


I'm fairly sure I've bought my last DSLR (K-5) and I expect to 
be in the
market for something like the Fuji X-E2 about this time next 
year.  If Ricoh

can't oblige by then, I'll be changing systems (partly, anyway).

I went for 6 years between Pentax cameras (K20D - K-3). There's no
way I will attempt to predict what Pentax/Ricoh might be offering in
2020. But given my current direction, my next is likely to be a
successor to the 645D, which is still an SLR afaik.

Let's be honest.  The K-01 was a minimal RD effort.  It was 
basically a

K30 without a Pentaprism/mirrorbos, that sold for about the same price
as a K30.  The biggest cost to Pentax was hiring Marc Newsom to put
lipstick on the pig. If Pentax had simply copied the styling cues 
from a

Kodak Instamatic 100 they would have had a bigger seller, with a higher
profit margin.

If Pentax had actually spent some RD money on fitting an EVF into it,
at least as good as the one in the Fuji Pro X 1, everyone who owns a
collection of Pentax lenses would have bought one as a second body, to
hell with what it looked like.








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Re: GESO: On the road

2014-05-29 Thread Paul

Link?

-p

On 5/29/2014 11:23 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

On the road to Grandfather Mountain photo weekend. Spent the morning at Hocking 
Hills State Park in Ohio. These are the better single shots. All were done in 
sequences for later HDR and/or focus stacking post-processing, so I may be able 
to pull more out of each one later once I am back home on my real 
computer...http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p107070726

The BW rendering (in a 4x5 format for Colin) is the only one I've worked on so 
far - used Photomatix and exposures at -2, 0, and +2. Plus a little tweaking in LR.

stan



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