Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question
On 10/31/2015 12:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote: David Mann wrote: On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:24 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: The next issue I have is more about acquiring skills than equipment But equipment is such a good substitute for skill! It has worked for me for years. Don't sell yourself short Larry, you're ample proof that equipment isn't a substitute for skill... (Sorry, I just couldn't resist). Cheers, Dave -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Funny there's also a distiller named E. C. Booz selling Whiskey in Philadelphia about the time that Whiskey was first being bottled (1850-1860). That seems as likely a reason for the product's slang name as any. Now I can't find the bottle making connection online, but I first read in in a book in a library long before "everything" worth knowing was online. I mean really, we don't go to the crapper to take a crap because excrement was called crap. We go to the Crapper because it was popularized by a London(?), well English anyway, plumber and plumbing manufacturer named Thomas Crapper, who popularized the water closet, and for this great service to humanity, he is forever immortalized as excrement. On 10/31/2015 12:35 AM, Larry Colen wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/30/2015 6:42 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: As it says in the name of the album: Plier, with booze. "Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman. Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch. It HATES it when you do that. Booze was the name of a bottle maker, and Coors got into the beer business because they made the beer bottles. I think I detect an unfortunate trend here. Interesting, when I looked up the definition on google I got: Origin Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen ‘drink to excess.’ The spelling booze dates from the 18th century. From the Oxford: Origin Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen 'drink to excess'. The spelling booze dates from the 18th century. MORE People have been boozing for a long time. The spelling booze dates from the 18th century, but as bouse the word entered English in the 13th century, probably from Dutch. We have been going to the boozer, or pub, since the 1890s. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
I didn't say it was natural, I said there was a lot of soy used. Even herbivores need amino acids to build proteins, more building blocks make for faster growth. On 10/31/2015 12:14 AM, knarf wrote: According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site: "Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of starch (carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats, barley, sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain and fiber milling processes. These are referred to as the concentrate portion of the ration. Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls." That's for beef cattle, anyway. And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" wrote: Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions
CS4 officially went unsupported (and wonky) on OS X about Lion or Mountain Lion introduction time. That's several years ago! I'm amazed you were still running it, Paul. I have CS5.1, which still seems usable on El Capitan. I've hardly used it, however. I've geared most of my work to be either 'done' as it comes out of the camera, or to take very light tuning in Lightroom only. Godfrey > On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:38 PM, David Mann wrote: > > That stinks. I'm glad to say that CS5 is working fine for me on 10.11. > > Cheers, > Dave > >> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> My new computer is running OS 10.11. I discovered today, and Adobe >> confirmed, that the CS4 suite software is incompatible with the latest OS. >> My Photoshop 6 works fine, and thats the software I use most often, but I do >> occasionally need InDesign and frequently use Adobe Acrobat Pro. I’m now >> trying to figure out if I can install an Adobe Acrobat DC upgrade with an >> Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 serial number. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Marlene
Thinking of you Paul - sometimes that course is the only way to go. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Friday, 30 October 2015 13:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Marlene Marlene doesn't want me to discuss her condition, and I find myself reaching out on other topics, which feels heartless, but deflecting may well be worse. A peaceful and painless conclusion is now the goal.. I've pretty much known this was inevitable since Dr. Kim, the surgeon, met with me outside the OR, 13 months ago. After six hours in surgery he looked defeated. "I wish I had gotten to this years ago," he said. "Is there hope? I asked. There is always hope," he said, head hanging. Today,Marlene's best friend drove up from Chicago and they laughed and even danced a little. (She was with Marlene when we met at a bar in February 1971.) A rare good day, but all we can realistically do now is wait and hug and whisper words of love. Did I tell you I deeply resent the ads from a cancer hospital that suggest they're beating the disease? They're not. It's a blatant lie aimed at getting more Medicare and insurance dollars. Fuck them. Paul via phone Paul via phone -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/30/2015 6:42 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: As it says in the name of the album: Plier, with booze. "Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman. Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch. It HATES it when you do that. Booze was the name of a bottle maker, and Coors got into the beer business because they made the beer bottles. I think I detect an unfortunate trend here. Interesting, when I looked up the definition on google I got: Origin Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen ‘drink to excess.’ The spelling booze dates from the 18th century. From the Oxford: Origin Middle English bouse, from Middle Dutch būsen 'drink to excess'. The spelling booze dates from the 18th century. MORE People have been boozing for a long time. The spelling booze dates from the 18th century, but as bouse the word entered English in the 13th century, probably from Dutch. We have been going to the boozer, or pub, since the 1890s. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
Perhaps this will change your perspective? http://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2015/aug/04/plants-intelligent-sentient-book-brilliant-green-internet Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Poke According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site: "Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of starch (carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats, barley, sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain and fiber milling processes. These are referred to as the concentrate portion of the ration. Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls." That's for beef cattle, anyway. And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" wrote: Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
knarf wrote: Well, for the record what I downloaded was the Peter, Paul and Mary version. I had no idea there really was a Peter, Paul and Marty. Also for the record I also have the original Dylan version which is much superior. In my experience, Dylan's music is almost universally improved by the musicians who covered it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
According to a Young Cattleman on an agriculture propaganda site: "Corn is the predominant grain used because it is a great source of starch (carbohydrates) utilized for energy. Other grains used include oats, barley, sorghum, distillers (brewers) grains, and by-products of numerous grain and fiber milling processes. These are referred to as the concentrate portion of the ration. Corn or wheat silage is a very common feed ration ingredient to be used. It can account for the forage and concentrate portion of the diet. Silage is the entire plant (seed and stalk), harvested in an earlier stage with higher moisture, then stored in an anaerobic environment (without oxygen) where fermentation occurs and breaks down the plant cell walls." That's for beef cattle, anyway. And even if there were soy, it's hardly natural for ruminant. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 3:10:27 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" wrote: >Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough >nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was >lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable >grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the >only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't >one. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
Mark Roberts wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I LOVE that cartoon! http://tinyurl.com/phae39r It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too. BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789 You didn't even comment that everything he says to do in photoshop can be done in lightroom. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
Come on, come on, maize is actually very nutritious. The staple diet of Africa. We even import yours in times drought like now. An how would a boerseuntjie survive without pap en wors? Alan C -Original Message- From: P.J. Alling Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:32 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Poke On 10/30/2015 7:33 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/30/2015 1:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote: That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I can barely type, I'm laughing so hard. As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits. No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest). So mostly we're not in competetion for food. But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill wrote: Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young. Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. My understanding was the corn was just fine until European farmers got their hands on the stuff and removed all of it's nutritional value in favor of volume growth. Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because the butter at least has some calcium in it. No even the native Maize is poor nutrition, in comparison to just about every other grass crop. Living in New England we actually have a few small farmers growing legacy corn and it doesn't have a lot more vitamins and protein than the yellow stuff you buy in the supermarket. Just a lot less sugar. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
"Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because the butter at least has some calcium in it." Saturated fats too! Alan C -Original Message- From: Bill Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Poke On 10/30/2015 1:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote: That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I can barely type, I'm laughing so hard. As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits. No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest). So mostly we're not in competetion for food. But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill wrote: Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young. Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. My understanding was the corn was just fine until European farmers got their hands on the stuff and removed all of it's nutritional value in favor of volume growth. Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because the butter at least has some calcium in it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question
David Mann wrote: On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:24 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: The next issue I have is more about acquiring skills than equipment But equipment is such a good substitute for skill! It has worked for me for years. Cheers, Dave -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: As it says in the name of the album: Plier, with booze. "Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman. What can I say, it's broad humor. Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch. It HATES it when you do that. That's the spirit! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions
That stinks. I'm glad to say that CS5 is working fine for me on 10.11. Cheers, Dave > On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > My new computer is running OS 10.11. I discovered today, and Adobe confirmed, > that the CS4 suite software is incompatible with the latest OS. My Photoshop > 6 works fine, and thats the software I use most often, but I do occasionally > need InDesign and frequently use Adobe Acrobat Pro. I’m now trying to figure > out if I can install an Adobe Acrobat DC upgrade with an Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 > serial number. > > Paul > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
Well, for the record what I downloaded was the Peter, Paul and Mary version. I had no idea there really was a Peter, Paul and Marty. Also for the record I also have the original Dylan version which is much superior. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 9:27:21 PM EDT, "P.J. Alling" wrote: >I assume if it's by Peter Paul and Marty it better be free. > >On 10/30/2015 6:43 PM, John wrote: >> Maybe where to get free music downloads from? >> >> On 10/30/2015 3:16 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: >>> Maybe Knarf knows something we don't. >>> >>> On 10/29/2015 3:03 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Marty?? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote: > It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding >home > listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. > > Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty. > > Hmmm... > > Cheers, > > frsnk > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question
On Oct 30, 2015, at 9:24 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > The next issue I have is more about acquiring skills than equipment But equipment is such a good substitute for skill! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
That was on my door when I was a graduate student. On 10/30/2015 10:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I LOVE that cartoon! http://tinyurl.com/phae39r It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too. BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789 -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >I LOVE that cartoon! >http://tinyurl.com/phae39r It's a classic, eh? It's a favorite among scientists, too. BTW, that "tutorial" bugged me so much I blogged about it: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1789 -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
I LOVE that cartoon! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I > said IF!) then this page... won't help much: > http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique > > Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my > favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker > cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Perfect Petite Pentax Kit - GDG
The K-S2 may not have the LEDs in the grip, but it still has the light up OK button, the light up GPS button and the Light up Shutter button, all of which are too blinky for me. All the other things that the K-S2 can do are wonderful, but unless you use them the only reason to pay extra money is for the extra resolution, which isn't really that big a deal. I don't know about you but I was never excited about the K-S1. One look at it and I knew a.) it was aimed at Hipsters and Japanese school girls, and b.) it would actually fail in the Hipster market. Which it appears to have done. The Camera Store called it one of the worst cameras of the year, when it was introduced, not that I take everything they say as gospel, but their analysis matched mine so I'll take it. The K-01 was at least interesting, a bad misfire, maybe, but interesting. On 10/30/2015 9:35 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: The K-50 is still available new, and it's a bit more traditional than the K-S2. No blinky lights... When you speak of blinky lights, I think you are thinking of the K-S1, not the K-S2. Speaking of which, the K-S1 with kit lens is only $199 (after $100 rebate) at Samy's: Blinky lights aside, that's a seriously stupid price for a 20MP camera with 5.4 fps and an optical viewfinder. The K-S1 also can take advantage of the 16 GB Pentax FLU-card for tethering to your phone or tablet via web browser. That's a crazy amount of features available for the money. I've got half a mind to sell my K-01 and upgrade to the K-S1 as my back-up camera. http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Pentax-K-S1-versus-Pentax-K-01___971_783 That doesn't tell the whole story however. The K-S1 can also bracket up to 5 EV (K-01 is 3EV) and has a faster shortest shutter speed (1/6000) to the K-01's 1/4000. Also the maximum ISO doubles the K-01. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
On 10/30/2015 7:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: John wrote: On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: From: "Mark Roberts" If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I said IF!) then this page... won't help much: http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r Painfully inept work! Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a joke at first. It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it for you. Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials". Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you appear to have got the gist of it. Well crap, I can make my own press credentials, I was forced to for a paper I worked for at one time. No one ever questioned them. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fighting enablement - lens choice question
I think Limited has more to do with build quality than optical excellence. Don't get me wrong, I love the 43mm limited, and I love it's optical characteristics, but honestly the FA 20-35mm is easily as sharp at f4.0 it's maximum aperture, and has just as pleasing a rendition under most circumstances. What the 43mm has is a machined aircraft aluminum body, and old school optical design. On 10/29/2015 4:57 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Alan, I don't know if it was just a rhetorical question or not. Until recently, I had thought that "Limited" designation was limited [sic!] to primes lenses. And for the "*" designation zooms had to have constant aperture and be parfocal (as opposed to varifocal). (Of course, those criteria were in addition to the great optical and build quality.) The recent introduction of 20-40 f/2.8-4 lens broke both of those rules. So, I think both of those designations now mean close to what "reserve" means for wines: "We thought we can charge extra for this product, and we hope this designation will help the sales". Also, I thought the lenses had to be fast in their class. But 21mm-f/3.2 was pushing that criterion as well. Still, I would be surprised to see any of those designations on a f/3.5-5.6 lens. Also, the 16-85/3.5-5.6 is suspiciously similar in the specs to the one from Nikon. By any chance, - do they share the design? (I.e. is it possible that the lens optical design was done by the same 3rd party? I do not see any discussion about that upon a quick search in Google.) Igor Alan C Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:26:10 -0700 wrote: Very erudite reasoning. I also have the 18-55/55-300 combo which gives perfectly acceptable results in most circumstances. Although I do have other lenses, they are all inferior optically except for the Pentax M 50mm 1.7 & the Sunactinon A 28mm 2.8. The 16-85 is so highly rated one wonders how it missed "limited" or "*" status. Alan C -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 10/30/2015 7:33 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/30/2015 1:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote: That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I can barely type, I'm laughing so hard. As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits. No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest). So mostly we're not in competetion for food. But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill wrote: Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young. Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. My understanding was the corn was just fine until European farmers got their hands on the stuff and removed all of it's nutritional value in favor of volume growth. Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because the butter at least has some calcium in it. No even the native Maize is poor nutrition, in comparison to just about every other grass crop. Living in New England we actually have a few small farmers growing legacy corn and it doesn't have a lot more vitamins and protein than the yellow stuff you buy in the supermarket. Just a lot less sugar. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Perfect Petite Pentax Kit - GDG
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > The K-50 is still available new, and it's a bit more traditional than the > K-S2. No blinky lights... When you speak of blinky lights, I think you are thinking of the K-S1, not the K-S2. Speaking of which, the K-S1 with kit lens is only $199 (after $100 rebate) at Samy's: Blinky lights aside, that's a seriously stupid price for a 20MP camera with 5.4 fps and an optical viewfinder. The K-S1 also can take advantage of the 16 GB Pentax FLU-card for tethering to your phone or tablet via web browser. That's a crazy amount of features available for the money. I've got half a mind to sell my K-01 and upgrade to the K-S1 as my back-up camera. http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Pentax-K-S1-versus-Pentax-K-01___971_783 That doesn't tell the whole story however. The K-S1 can also bracket up to 5 EV (K-01 is 3EV) and has a faster shortest shutter speed (1/6000) to the K-01's 1/4000. Also the maximum ISO doubles the K-01. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 10/30/2015 4:29 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 30 Oct 2015, at 19:04, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/29/2015 8:19 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/29/2015 6:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 29 Oct 2015, at 23:39, Bill wrote: On 10/29/2015 6:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf wrote: Nice photo anyway. Thanks, Frank. I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you don't need my understanding or approval. At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. Hardly, since in most industrial-scale farming we seem to be feeding farm animals with mashed-up bits of their dead relatives. That doesn't sound like it could possibly end well. Actually that sounds like a perpetual motion machine, which is physically imposable, no matter how you slice it. It ends with mad cow disease B Only if the Prions exist in the cows brains to begin with. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
I assume if it's by Peter Paul and Marty it better be free. On 10/30/2015 6:43 PM, John wrote: Maybe where to get free music downloads from? On 10/30/2015 3:16 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Maybe Knarf knows something we don't. On 10/29/2015 3:03 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Marty?? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote: It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding home listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty. Hmmm... Cheers, frsnk -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
On 10/30/2015 6:42 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: As it says in the name of the album: Plier, with booze. "Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman. Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch. It HATES it when you do that. Booze was the name of a bottle maker, and Coors got into the beer business because they made the beer bottles. I think I detect an unfortunate trend here. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
Basically as there seems to be no damage to the maiden more likely an indicator of extreme passion. On 10/30/2015 9:58 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:48 PM, knarf wrote: That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to m The ripped top also could support an inference that this is an image to document an assault on the lovely young lady. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Perfect Petite Pentax Kit - GDG
The K-50 is still available new, and it's a bit more traditional than the K-S2. No blinky lights, less capable, (or so the advertising puffery implies), video, and no extras to make selfies better. However the 18-55 kit is under $400.00 at B&H Photo, (probably the same almost everywhere), body only under $300. If you're looking at the K-01 as an alternative, the K-50 is an obvious choice as far as IQ goes. From what I can tell don't give up anything in image quality, to K-S2. Hell it's weather sealed. If I didn't already have a backup body, I'd be giving it serious consideration especially at that price. On 10/29/2015 7:37 PM, Sandy Harris wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's all arrived and tested. After years of playing with so many Pentax bodies and lenses, this is my favorite Pentax kit of all: https://flic.kr/p/AfvZpS Pentax K-01 Marc Newsom in Yellow FA43mm f/1.9 Limited in Pewter with Voigtländer 75mm optical finder DA21mm f/3.4 Limited in Black with Voigtländer 35mm optical finder It's exactly what I like to shoot with, fits in a tiny bag, weighs almost nothing, and makes very very nice photos! All Hail the Pentaxian! Sounds fine. Hope you enjoy it & get some great shots. My rig is rather similar. I have 21 Limited & DA 50 1.8. My current body is a K100D, but I want to upgrade when budget allows. I was thinking K-S2. Compared to K-01 it is over 100g heavier, but has a viewfinder, articulated screen & built-in wifi. Of course I could look for a K-01 instead & that would likely be cheaper. Does anyone have comments on the choice? -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
Mark Roberts wrote: >my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker >cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r Step 6 is a close second: "dogde" and burn I know spelling flames are a bit lame, but this isn't an email or usenet post, it's a "tutorial" (in the loosest sense of the word) that's posted on a web site and should have been proofread or at least spellchecked first. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 09:39 AM, John wrote: > On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Jack Davis wrote: > > > >> From: "Mark Roberts" > >> > >> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I > >> said IF!) then this page... won't help much: > >> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique > >> > >> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my > >> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker > >> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r > >> > >> Painfully inept work! > > > > Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a > > joke at first. > > > > > > It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know > how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it > for you. > > Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials". Bummer, it's $110 if you live in Australia. At first I thought that might be due to the exchange rate but the $110 is US dollars. Downunder discrimination lives!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 10/30/2015 1:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote: That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I can barely type, I'm laughing so hard. As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits. No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest). So mostly we're not in competetion for food. But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill wrote: Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young. Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. My understanding was the corn was just fine until European farmers got their hands on the stuff and removed all of it's nutritional value in favor of volume growth. Now, the only nutrition corn has is if you eat corn on the cob because the butter at least has some calcium in it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
On 10/30/2015 1:55 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Painfully inept work! Proof positive that if mommy will pay for your internet connection, you can put fucked up crap on the internet. J - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:55:43 AM Subject: World's worst photo tutorial If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I said IF!) then this page... won't help much: http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
John wrote: >On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> Jack Davis wrote: >> >>> From: "Mark Roberts" >>> >>> If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I >>> said IF!) then this page... won't help much: >>> http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique >>> >>> Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my >>> favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker >>> cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r >>> >>> Painfully inept work! >> >> Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a >> joke at first. > >It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know >how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it >for you. > >Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials". Indeed. I hadn't bothered looking at the rest of the site but you appear to have got the gist of it. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
Maybe where to get free music downloads from? On 10/30/2015 3:16 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Maybe Knarf knows something we don't. On 10/29/2015 3:03 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Marty?? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote: It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding home listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty. Hmmm... Cheers, frsnk -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > As it says in the name of the album: > > Plier, with booze. "Booze" is to Lagavulin as "Broad" is to woman. Now I've gone and broken my own rule: Never anthropomorphize Scotch. It HATES it when you do that. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
On 10/30/2015 4:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: From: "Mark Roberts" If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I said IF!) then this page... won't help much: http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r Painfully inept work! Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a joke at first. It looks like some kind of millennial vanity press. If you don't know how to make a Blurb book of your own, you can pay these guys to do it for you. Also, send them $99 & they'll send you "Press Credentials". -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 10/29/2015 7:41 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/29/2015 6:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:29 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: In this life if there's one thing I stand by, it's 'I'll try [just about] anything once". As the descendant of Eastern European peasants, I'll eat just about anything that is place before me. As I said above, I tried sea urchin sashimi a few weeks ago, and I finished it, although neither the texture nor the flavor really appealed to me. Perhaps it is an acquired taste. I didn't like octopus when I first tried it in Japan 49 years ago, but I have grown to appreciate it, both cooked and raw. One of my favorite dishes is steak tartare, but I only order it in establishments that have my confidence, because it has to be a great piece of meat properly prepared. I like the places that grind the meat and season it right at your table. I do a great steak tartare. Unfortunately, she who must also be fed or the pampering stops prefers somewhat cooked meat. I'm happy making a Martini with gin, knowing there is a bottle of vermouth somewhere, and I am quite happy with a steak dinner, knowing that there is a barbecue in the neighborhood. Anywhere you go in North America, there's someone who thinks they know how to cook barbecue. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 08:38 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Brian Walters wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 07:18 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> http://eil.com/images/main/Peter-Paul--Marty-Peter-Paul--Marty-564820.jpg > > > > > > So there really is (was) a Peter, Paul& Marty. > > > > A little Googling found they were former members of The New Seekers and > > released one album (1973) with 11 tracks. "Blowin' in the Wind" wasn't > > one of them... > > I cannot help but appreciate the detailed level of improvisational > pedantry on this list. Are we not the Pedantry Discuss Mailing List?? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access your email from home and the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 08:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Only this is Blowin' in the Wind: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l4nVByCL44 > > I met Dylan about 55 years ago, when he was following Joan Baez around > on tour like her little puppy dog. I saw Dylan in '66 at the old Sydney Stadium. This was in his transition stage from pure acoustic to rock. Many members of the audience got up and left when he returned after intermission with his full band. A few years ago I found this poster for the concert on line. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/Sydney_13%2B16_april_1966.jpg Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Marlene
I hope that she will have peace & surcease from pain. I hope that you will find them as well. On 10/29/2015 11:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Marlene doesn't want me to discuss her condition, and I find myself reaching out on other topics, which feels heartless, but honesty may well be worse. A peaceful and painless conclusion is now the goal.. I've pretty much known this was inevitable since Dr. Kim, the surgeon, met with me outside the OR, 13 months ago. After six hours in surgery he looked defeated. "I wish I had gotten to this years ago," he said. "Is there hope? I asked. There is always hope," he said, head hanging. Today,Marlene's best friend drove up from Chicago and they laughed and even danced a little. (She was with Marlene when we met at a bar in February 1971.) A rare good day, but all we can realistically do now is wait and hug and whisper words of love. Did I tell you I deeply resent the ads from a cancer hospital that suggest they're beating the disease? They're not. It's a blatant lie aimed at getting more Medicare and insurance dollars. Fuck them. Paul via phone Paul via phone Paul via phone -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
Only this is Blowin' in the Wind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l4nVByCL44 I met Dylan about 55 years ago, when he was following Joan Baez around on tour like her little puppy dog. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Brian Walters wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 07:18 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >>> >>> http://eil.com/images/main/Peter-Paul--Marty-Peter-Paul--Marty-564820.jpg >> >> >> >> So there really is (was) a Peter, Paul& Marty. >> >> A little Googling found they were former members of The New Seekers and >> released one album (1973) with 11 tracks. "Blowin' in the Wind" wasn't >> one of them... > > > I cannot help but appreciate the detailed level of improvisational pedantry > on this list. > > >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
I love it, except they misspelled "Whisky." Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> With today's prices for the Lag, a wee dram is not only traditional, >> but all I can afford. >> My wife hates whisky. Come to think of it, perhaps that's why I chose >> her. She, however, was sober, so it is a mystery why she chose >> me! > > > If you're ever in the area, stop by for a tour of the Isles. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157660565535761 > > I apologize for the poor technical and artistic quality of the photos, but I > think the subject matter will make up for those minor flaws. > > One of the side effects of not being a big drinker, but enjoying exploring > new things is that my single malt collection grew over the years. > > > > Then there is this that showed up in my email as I was replying: > > > https://funstuffpeoplesendme.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/bars-are-different-in-scotlande2808f004.jpg > > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: It's been a long day.
Had to get the power company in this morning to drop my service so the tree removal company could take down the mulberry tree that tore up my roof. Also had them take down a fairly large walnut tree. Now I've got a huge pile of tree branches in my back yard to cut up & chip up. I've also got a lot of firewood to split. Power company just left from reconnecting my power & it looks like everything came back up Ok. Power was out for a little over 8 hours. I'll give it a couple of hours before I open the refrigerator & hope it kept enough cold that the food inside didn't spoil. I'll try to make a PESO of the limb pile tomorrow. I'm just too tired to do it today. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 07:18 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: http://eil.com/images/main/Peter-Paul--Marty-Peter-Paul--Marty-564820.jpg So there really is (was) a Peter, Paul& Marty. A little Googling found they were former members of The New Seekers and released one album (1973) with 11 tracks. "Blowin' in the Wind" wasn't one of them... I cannot help but appreciate the detailed level of improvisational pedantry on this list. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: With today's prices for the Lag, a wee dram is not only traditional, but all I can afford. My wife hates whisky. Come to think of it, perhaps that's why I chose her. She, however, was sober, so it is a mystery why she chose me! If you're ever in the area, stop by for a tour of the Isles. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157660565535761 I apologize for the poor technical and artistic quality of the photos, but I think the subject matter will make up for those minor flaws. One of the side effects of not being a big drinker, but enjoying exploring new things is that my single malt collection grew over the years. Then there is this that showed up in my email as I was replying: https://funstuffpeoplesendme.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/bars-are-different-in-scotlande2808f004.jpg -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
With today's prices for the Lag, a wee dram is not only traditional, but all I can afford. My wife hates whisky. Come to think of it, perhaps that's why I chose her.She, however, was sober, so it is a mystery why she chose me! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> >> Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Plier, with booze. >>> >>> >>> Great pun. >>> >>> She would have to been someone really sensational for me to use my >>> Lagavulin 16 on her. >> >> >> I, on the other hand, use demonstrations of my impeccable taste as an >> integral part of courtship. > > > Besides, it gives me an excuse to pour a wee dram for myself. > > > >> >> >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015, at 07:18 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > http://eil.com/images/main/Peter-Paul--Marty-Peter-Paul--Marty-564820.jpg So there really is (was) a Peter, Paul & Marty. A little Googling found they were former members of The New Seekers and released one album (1973) with 11 tracks. "Blowin' in the Wind" wasn't one of them... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > On 30 Oct 2015, at 19:17, P.J. Alling wrote: > > > > Maybe Knarf knows something we don't. > > > >> On 10/29/2015 3:03 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > >> Marty?? > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> ++ > >> Brian Walters > >> Western Sydney Australia > >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > >> > >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote: > >>> It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding home > >>> listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. > >>> > >>> Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty. > >>> > >>> Hmmm... > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> frsnk > >>> -- > >>> > >>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Larry Colen wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Plier, with booze. Great pun. She would have to been someone really sensational for me to use my Lagavulin 16 on her. I, on the other hand, use demonstrations of my impeccable taste as an integral part of courtship. Besides, it gives me an excuse to pour a wee dram for myself. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Plier, with booze. Great pun. She would have to been someone really sensational for me to use my Lagavulin 16 on her. I, on the other hand, use demonstrations of my impeccable taste as an integral part of courtship. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
Everything we think we know is just a sea urchin dreaming. B > On 30 Oct 2015, at 12:53, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a > sentient being since it's an animal. > > Paul via phone > >> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> "How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian? >> You don't have to. They will be sure to tell you." >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf wrote: >>> Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to defend >>> or explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating cruelty and >>> exploitation of sentient, feeling beings. >>> >>> I guess it's about where you draw the line. >>> >>> No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating cats, >>> dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other primates >>> are pretty much off limits, too. >>> >>> I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, it must >>> be equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, socially >>> advanced animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say yes for cows, >>> fish or anything else that feels pain? >>> >>> So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred line in >>> some cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants and no to >>> animals of all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy to understand, >>> at least for me. >>> >>> There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for now. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frank >>> On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf wrote: > Nice photo anyway. Thanks, Frank. I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you don't need my understanding or approval. At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>> >>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 30 Oct 2015, at 19:04, P.J. Alling wrote: > >> On 10/29/2015 8:19 PM, Bill wrote: >>> On 10/29/2015 6:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 29 Oct 2015, at 23:39, Bill wrote: >> On 10/29/2015 6:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf wrote: >> Nice photo anyway. > > Thanks, Frank. > > I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you > don't need my understanding or approval. > At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. >>> >>> Hardly, since in most industrial-scale farming we seem to be feeding farm >>> animals with mashed-up bits of their dead relatives. >> >> That doesn't sound like it could possibly end well. > > Actually that sounds like a perpetual motion machine, which is physically > imposable, no matter how you slice it. > It ends with mad cow disease B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Plier, with booze. Great pun. She would have to been someone really sensational for me to use my Lagavulin 16 on her. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
OOOH! My favorite whisky. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > I thought I sent this out a while ago, but it never showed up in either my > pdml nor my Sent folders. There has been some wonkiness in my network > connection lately too. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22424033000/in/album-72157660557640441/ > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Jack Davis wrote: Find it hard to open, Larry? As it says in the name of the album: Plier, with booze. My problem with Scotch is finding it hard to close. te-he J - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" To: "Pentax-Discuss List" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:11:05 PM Subject: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test) I thought I sent this out a while ago, but it never showed up in either my pdml nor my Sent folders. There has been some wonkiness in my network connection lately too. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22424033000/in/album-72157660557640441/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
http://eil.com/images/main/Peter-Paul--Marty-Peter-Paul--Marty-564820.jpg > On 30 Oct 2015, at 19:17, P.J. Alling wrote: > > Maybe Knarf knows something we don't. > >> On 10/29/2015 3:03 AM, Brian Walters wrote: >> Marty?? >> >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> ++ >> Brian Walters >> Western Sydney Australia >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ >> >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote: >>> It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding home >>> listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. >>> >>> Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty. >>> >>> Hmmm... >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frsnk >>> -- >>> >>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >>> >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
Jack Davis wrote: >From: "Mark Roberts" > >If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I >said IF!) then this page... won't help much: >http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique > >Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my >favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker >cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r > >Painfully inept work! Someone posted a link to it on Facebook. I literally thought it was a joke at first. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:10 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn I disagree! I love corn. Then again, I'm not very cultured . . . . Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Warning for Mac users with Old PhotoShop versions
My new computer is running OS 10.11. I discovered today, and Adobe confirmed, that the CS4 suite software is incompatible with the latest OS. My Photoshop 6 works fine, and thats the software I use most often, but I do occasionally need InDesign and frequently use Adobe Acrobat Pro. I’m now trying to figure out if I can install an Adobe Acrobat DC upgrade with an Adobe Acrobat Pro 9 serial number. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
> On 30 October 2015 at 18:55 Mark Roberts wrote: > > > If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I > said IF!) then this page... won't help much: > http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique > > Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my > favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker > cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r > You buy the double pro version of Photoshop - you know; the one where the colour slider goes up to 11. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:23 PM, knarf wrote: > I don't eat carnivorous plants. I certainly wouldn't eat Audrey II. I wouldn't get close to her, for fear she would eat me! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: World's worst photo tutorial
Painfully inept work! J - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 11:55:43 AM Subject: World's worst photo tutorial If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I said IF!) then this page... won't help much: http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
Find it hard to open, Larry? My problem with Scotch is finding it hard to close. te-he J - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" To: "Pentax-Discuss List" Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:11:05 PM Subject: PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test) I thought I sent this out a while ago, but it never showed up in either my pdml nor my Sent folders. There has been some wonkiness in my network connection lately too. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22424033000/in/album-72157660557640441/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Kalila: Princess Warrior
Nice shots but how can she be a princess warrior without an armored bikini?
On 10/29/2015 1:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
My wife, Louise, decided that I was having too much fun, and, desiring
to join in wrote up a theme for a shoot involving a princess
("Kalila"), an evil king ("Bardovudd"), swordplay and an enchanted
forest. Together we cast the roles, hired a swordmaster for accuracy,
and recruited a costumer, chalkboard artist, makeup/hair artist and
additional walk-ons.
We call it Warrior Princess.
There will be many shots from this ambitious effort, but here's the
key part, the princess. In real life she is Kaeli Taylor, Louise'
landscaping assistant (and not a model). Here she is wearing a custom
dress created by the costumer, Eva Mocek.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22504875585/lightbox/
K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 31mm, f:8, 1/180th sec, 100 ISO.
And a portrait ...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22261632139/lightbox/
K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f:4, 1/160th sec, 100 ISO.
Light was provided by three PCB Einstein strobes with 7" reflectors
staggered 3' apart and bouncing their light high up from a white wall
opposite the chalkboard wall.
Comments welcome!
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Re: OT - Free Music Downloads
Maybe Knarf knows something we don't. On 10/29/2015 3:03 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Marty?? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Thu, Oct 29, 2015, at 04:08 PM, knarf wrote: It rained so hard today I decided to take the bus. So I'm riding home listening to tunes I've downloaded on my phone. Just finished ~Blowin' in the Wind~. By Peter, Paul and Marty. Hmmm... Cheers, frsnk -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
Carnivorous plants usually live in really nutrient low environments which is why they make their own fertilizer... On 10/30/2015 2:23 PM, knarf wrote: In terms of my personal menu, I don't eat carnivorous plants. Therefore I need not consider the ethics of consuming them. Good question, though. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 1:10:26 PM EDT, Alan C wrote: Where do carnivorous plants fit in? Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Poke "So, they eat other animal life, and thus are fair game for us..." I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens the door to eating lots of different animals. Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are vegetarian. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a sentient being since it's an animal. I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows? Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch, light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body of sea urchins might function as a compound eye. Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle stars, and crinoids. So, they eat other animal life, and thus are fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins). Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
Deep Sea Urchin Thoughts... On 10/30/2015 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a sentient being since it's an animal. Paul via phone On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: "How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian? You don't have to. They will be sure to tell you." Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf wrote: Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to defend or explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating cruelty and exploitation of sentient, feeling beings. I guess it's about where you draw the line. No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating cats, dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other primates are pretty much off limits, too. I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, it must be equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, socially advanced animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say yes for cows, fish or anything else that feels pain? So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred line in some cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants and no to animals of all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy to understand, at least for me. There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for now. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf wrote: Nice photo anyway. Thanks, Frank. I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you don't need my understanding or approval. At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Friday morning humor (retry and test)
I thought I sent this out a while ago, but it never showed up in either my pdml nor my Sent folders. There has been some wonkiness in my network connection lately too. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/22424033000/in/album-72157660557640441/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 10/30/2015 12:10 AM, knarf wrote: That's quite funny, the part about eating vegans when they're young. I can barely type, I'm laughing so hard. As for competing with farm animals for food, I'm pretty sure that cows, pigs and chickens don't eat leafy greens, nightshades, beans and lentils, root vegetables and fresh fruits. No, they eat corn. And more corn. Yet again even more corn. And dead animal stuff (of their own species, in many cases). And loads and loads of antibiotics, because they're so prone to infections caused by eating so much corn (which their stomachs aren't designed to digest). So mostly we're not in competetion for food. But again, your comments were very humorous. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, frank On October 29, 2015 7:38:29 PM EDT, Bill wrote: Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. OTOH, they do make a tasty snack if you slaughter them when young. Soybeans is a large part of animal feed, corn hardly has enough nourishment. One of the problems of the native American cultures was lack of large domesticable animals, and suitable easily domesticable grasses. No culture that had a choice would have chosen Corn, and the only tractable large ruminant in the Americas was, well there wasn't one. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On 10/29/2015 8:19 PM, Bill wrote: On 10/29/2015 6:15 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: On 29 Oct 2015, at 23:39, Bill wrote: On 10/29/2015 6:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf wrote: Nice photo anyway. Thanks, Frank. I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you don't need my understanding or approval. At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. Not really, Vegans are competing for food with farm animals. Hardly, since in most industrial-scale farming we seem to be feeding farm animals with mashed-up bits of their dead relatives. That doesn't sound like it could possibly end well. Actually that sounds like a perpetual motion machine, which is physically imposable, no matter how you slice it. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015, at 10:01, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Poke (pronounced POH-kay) is the quintessential Hawaiian dish. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18117290 a visceral photo figuratively and literally soften the highlights and it could be a magazine shot and interesting discussion - i am semi-veg, not a moral eater, but sensitive to critters, environment and health, limit all meats and won't eat mammals; so i try to learn about where food comes from and saw a recent news story that is relevant to poke: http://oceana.org/reports/oceana-study-reveals-seafood-fraud-nationwide -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
World's worst photo tutorial
If you want to learn how to do over-the-top HDR nature photos (hey, I said IF!) then this page... won't help much: http://camerapixo.com/resources/10-step-processing-technique Every step is so vague and general that it tells you nothing, but my favorite one is step 9, which reminds me of this old New Yorker cartoon: http://tinyurl.com/phae39r -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
In terms of my personal menu, I don't eat carnivorous plants. Therefore I need not consider the ethics of consuming them. Good question, though. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 1:10:26 PM EDT, Alan C wrote: >Where do carnivorous plants fit in? > >Alan C > >-Original Message- >From: knarf >Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO: Poke > >"So, they eat other animal life, and thus are >fair game for us..." > >I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens >the >door to eating lots of different animals. > >Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are >vegetarian. > >Cheers, > >frank > >On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" > wrote: >>On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist >> wrote: >>> When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it >>must be a sentient being since it's an animal. >> >>I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows? >> >>Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch, >>light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body >>of sea urchins might function as a compound eye. >> >>Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers >>and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle >>stars, and crinoids. So, they eat other animal life, and thus are >>fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins). >> >>Dan Matyola >>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
That photo does a good job of making me hungry, and I just finished a fairly large meal. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Oh wow - looks and sounds delicious. Poke is awesome. People miss out on so many wonderful things by being afraid to try new foods. It is indeed, Steve. One must keep an open mind and be a bit adventurous at times. Last wee at Haru in NYC I tried sea urchin sashimi for the first time. Not my favorite, by any means, but quite interesting. The soft shell crab sushi was much tastier. I tried uni once, and it didn't really work for me. If you are ever in Santa Cruz, I highly recommend Mobo Sushi. They have some very creative and delicious items on their menu. Zab loves their corrupter roll: Unagi, Basil, Fresh Garlic, Macadamia Nuts My favorite is what they call the tsunami, they take a large chunk of smoked salmon, split the middle, fill it with rice and macadamia nuts and top it with unagi and avocado. It is an amazing mixture of both flavors and textures. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: The EYES have it
Some nice macros of insect eyes: http://twistedsifter.com/2015/10/25-of-the-best-close-ups-of-insect-eyes-you-will-see/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Twistedsifter+%28TwistedSifter+%29 Not up to Mark's standards, but quite interesting. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
I just said they were "fair game." I didn't say I would eat anything that eats other animal, nor did I say I would only each animals that eat other animals. I do, however, tend to be an omnivore . . . . Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Alan C wrote: > Where do carnivorous plants fit in? > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: knarf > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO: Poke > > "So, they eat other animal life, and thus are > fair game for us..." > > I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens the > door to eating lots of different animals. > > Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are vegetarian. > > Cheers, > > frank > > On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist >> wrote: >>> >>> When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it >> >> must be a sentient being since it's an animal. >> >> I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows? >> >> Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch, >> light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body >> of sea urchins might function as a compound eye. >> >> Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers >> and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle >> stars, and crinoids. So, they eat other animal life, and thus are >> fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins). >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Getting the Shot
> On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > http://themetapicture.com/the-different-poses-of-a-photographer/ We sure are a funny looking bunch when it comes to making a photograph … :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Poke
Where do carnivorous plants fit in? Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Poke "So, they eat other animal life, and thus are fair game for us..." I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens the door to eating lots of different animals. Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are vegetarian. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a sentient being since it's an animal. I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows? Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch, light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body of sea urchins might function as a compound eye. Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle stars, and crinoids. So, they eat other animal life, and thus are fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins). Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Getting the Shot
On 29/10/15, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cotty? > >Friends? > >LOL > >Cheers, > >frank I love yer man -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
"So, they eat other animal life, and thus are fair game for us..." I hope your not really saying that's your test, Dan. That sure opens the door to eating lots of different animals. Obviously you have other criteria as well; cows, after all are vegetarian. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 9:13:40 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: >On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist > wrote: >> When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it >must be a sentient being since it's an animal. > >I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows? > >Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch, >light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body >of sea urchins might function as a compound eye. > >Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers >and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle >stars, and crinoids. So, they eat other animal life, and thus are >fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins). > >Dan Matyola >http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
Sentience is the ability to perceive or feel, not to think. >From Wikipedia: "Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively.[1] Eighteenth-century philosophers used the concept to distinguish the ability to think (reason) from the ability to feel (sentience). In modern Western philosophy, sentience is the ability to experience sensations (known in philosophy of mind as "qualia"). In Eastern philosophy, sentience is a metaphysical quality of all things that requires respect and care. The concept is central to the philosophy of animal rights, because sentience is necessary for the ability to suffer, and thus is held to confer certain rights." By any definition I'm aware of, sea urchins are sentient. Cheers, frank On October 30, 2015 8:52:23 AM EDT, Paul Stenquist wrote: >When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it >must be a sentient being since it's an animal. > >Paul via phone > >> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola >wrote: >> >> "How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian? >> You don't have to. They will be sure to tell you." >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf >wrote: >>> Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to >defend or explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating >cruelty and exploitation of sentient, feeling beings. >>> >>> I guess it's about where you draw the line. >>> >>> No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating >cats, dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other >primates are pretty much off limits, too. >>> >>> I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, >it must be equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, >socially advanced animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say >yes for cows, fish or anything else that feels pain? >>> >>> So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred >line in some cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants >and no to animals of all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy >to understand, at least for me. >>> >>> There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for >now. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frank >>> On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" > wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf wrote: > Nice photo anyway. Thanks, Frank. I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you don't need my understanding or approval. At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>> >>> -- >>> >>> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >>> >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and follow the directions. -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ Kalila: Princess Warrior
Excellent work.
I spent some time clicking on the right arrow, and there are a lot of
attractive and effective image there, You are doing really fine work
with the female models. I don't find any of the nudes or semi-nudes
offensive or tasteless, but I do not care for the ones where the model
is wearing pasties. I find them as disturbing as the British meat
pies of a similar name.
I especially like the dog images and the portrait of the fencer. Too
many cat photos, however!
I really like the sunbather in the snow, and #17065612986, which is
the montage of four images of a female figure with different color and
toning effects.
Overall, a very impressive gallery.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>
> Great captures Bruce - looks like you're having fun with your photography.
> I'd prefer a little space between top of the subjects head and the top edge
> of the image in the portrait - to make it look more like a crafted image and
> nota snapshot.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Bruce Walker
>>Subject: PESO ~ Kalila: Princess Warrior
>>
>>My wife, Louise, decided that I was having too much fun, and, desiring
>>to join in wrote up a theme for a shoot involving a princess
>>("Kalila"), an evil king ("Bardovudd"), swordplay and an enchanted
>>forest. Together we cast the roles, hired a swordmaster for accuracy,
>>and recruited a costumer, chalkboard artist, makeup/hair artist and
>>additional walk-ons.
>>
>>We call it Warrior Princess.
>>
>>There will be many shots from this ambitious effort, but here's the
>>key part, the princess. In real life she is Kaeli Taylor, Louise'
>>landscaping assistant (and not a model). Here she is wearing a custom
>>dress created by the costumer, Eva Mocek.
>>
>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22504875585/lightbox/
>>
>>K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 31mm, f:8, 1/180th sec, 100 ISO.
>>
>>And a portrait ...
>>
>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22261632139/lightbox/
>>
>>K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f:4, 1/160th sec, 100 ISO.
>>
>>Light was provided by three PCB Einstein strobes with 7" reflectors
>>staggered 3' apart and bouncing their light high up from a white wall
>>opposite the chalkboard wall.
>>
>>Comments welcome!
>>
>>--
>>-bmw
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Re: Marlene
Very sorry to here this paul Dave On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Marlene doesn't want me to discuss her condition, and I find myself reaching > out on other topics, which feels heartless, but deflecting may well be worse. > > A peaceful and painless conclusion is now the goal.. I've pretty much known > this was inevitable since Dr. Kim, the surgeon, met with me outside the OR, > 13 months ago. After six hours in surgery he looked defeated. "I wish I had > gotten to this years ago," he said. "Is there hope? I asked. There is always > hope," he said, head hanging. > > Today,Marlene's best friend drove up from Chicago and they laughed and even > danced a little. (She was with Marlene when we met at a bar in February > 1971.) A rare good day, but all we can realistically do now is wait and hug > and whisper words of love. > > Did I tell you I deeply resent the ads from a cancer hospital that suggest > they're beating the disease? They're not. It's a blatant lie aimed at getting > more Medicare and insurance dollars. Fuck them. > > Paul via phone > Paul via phone > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday - Up the Alcan calendar and a couple of other things
So sorry for the repeat email for some of you - and I know this is coals to Newcastle ...and I showed the list the photos already ... scroll down for the FS friday stuff that isn't the calendar.. Here is a look at the new one - Kodachromes from two road trips in 1989 and 1992 to Alaska https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print/Up-the-Alcan-Wall-Calendar/ This year I'd really appreciate all of you who are planning to buy one or more order them from me and make your _selection_ by November 15 - that way I can order the calendars, quality check each one when I get them and mail signed calendars to you in plenty of time for gift giving. If there are problems with them on the cafe press side I'll have time to get them reprinted... and there won't be any calendars that start before January 2016 :-) I say "selection" because you can still order any of the other wall calendars designed over the last 9 years from me. https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Calendars-in-Print They are $19.00 each plus shipping USPS at the lowest rate I can get depending on the number of calendars you order.. ($3.00 if you only buy one.) this listing of mine on ebay for inkpress paper (cheap) http://www.ebay.com/itm/201446875915?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 and this of possible interest.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/191725338737?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 ann annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: High tide
Nice set of photos, effectively demonstrating the subject. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Bob W wrote: > Not sure if this link will work, but I'll give it a try. > > High tide in Greenwich earlier today, taken with my phone. > > https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=439D213A93634DD4!105870&authkey=!AEJ73VLiIcHsff8&ithint=album%2c > > B > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ~ A portrait in window light
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:48 PM, knarf wrote: > That ripped top is a bit of a distraction to m The ripped top also could support an inference that this is an image to document an assault on the lovely young lady. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Follow my Lead
Great portrait of the horn player, and the bassist does add a lot to the scene. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:31 PM, frank theriault wrote: > I said I'd have several murals this week. I'm stopping at two as the > rest don't rate - even by my low standards. > > But here's two parts of a jazz quartet I recently came upon.Love the > way the bass player seems to be waiting for a visual cue from the horn > player: > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/10/follow-my-lead.html > > Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. > > cheers, > > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vancouver Evening Stroll
More macroscians! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18117923&size=lg > > Comments appreciated. > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Perfect Petite Pentax Kit - GDG
I bought the K-01 for two-three reasons: - It's small and unobtrusive (yes, even despite being bright yellow). - It works well, as others have said, for the more casual kinds of shooting with a limited range of lenses due to its size and viewfinder setup. - I really like the design for itself … It's the abstraction, the essence, of an SLR; a statement derived of its forebears. I like that it works well, configured with the two lenses I got for it, with direct optical viewfinders. That happens to be how I like to shoot a good bit of the time. It is, to me, a complement to an SLR the same way that my Leica X is a complement to a Leica M-P. If that was all the kind of shooting I did, it would be enough and I would just use it (or the X, etc). But my shooting interests are such that I'll use it more pointedly and have other, more versatile equipment to handle the larger scope of my shooting needs/desires. G > On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Mark Roberts > wrote: >> I find the LCD > great for street photography; people don't pay as much >> attention to >> you because you look like less of a "serious photographer". >> >> For travel use (bicycle, motorcycle and hiking in my case) the K-01 >> would be my pick. For general photography (if I were to have only one >> camera) I'd go with the SLR. > > That is exactly my feelings. I use the K-01 for street photography, > snaps of people at an event, and some travel when photography is not a > prime purpose of the excusion, and my SLT (K-5 II S) for general > photography, macros, landscapes, etc. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
They may then be trumped by a vegan. :0) J Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > "How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian? > You don't have to. They will be sure to tell you." > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf wrote: >> Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to defend or >> explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating cruelty and >> exploitation of sentient, feeling beings. >> >> I guess it's about where you draw the line. >> >> No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating cats, >> dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other primates are >> pretty much off limits, too. >> >> I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, it must >> be equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, socially advanced >> animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say yes for cows, fish or >> anything else that feels pain? >> >> So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred line in >> some cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants and no to >> animals of all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy to understand, >> at least for me. >> >> There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for now. >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >>> On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" >>> wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf >>> wrote: Nice photo anyway. >>> >>> Thanks, Frank. >>> >>> I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you >>> don't need my understanding or approval. >>> At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. >>> >>> Dan Matyola >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> -- >> >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Marlene
I'm saddened to hear of Marlene's present condition, and I hope and pray that she achieves the peaceful and painless conclusion that is her goal and yours. Continue to be strong for her and for the family. I have gone through similar trials over the past 12 years with first my father, then my mother, then my mother in law and then my younger sister. As my mother used to say "life is not for sissies." I agree with your comments on cancer ads. We have a very long way to go. A friend of mine from our local Rotary Club lost her 16 year old daughter to pediatric brain cancer a decade ago. She and her husband started a foundation, which supports cancer research at Columbia Presbyterian in NYC. At the annual fundraising gala a few weeks ago, the head of the research team reported that they have made significant progress in the last year towards developing a vaccine for that particular kind of cancer, but is will be years yet before they will know how effective it might be. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Marlene is very private, do Im loathe to discuss her condition, but I find > myself mentioning her battle when I'm speaking on other topics, and that > feels heartless. Perhaps honesty is better. > > A peaceful and painless conclusion is now the goal.. I've pretty much known > this was inevitable since Dr. Kim, the surgeon, met with me outside the OR, > 13 months ago. After six hours in surgery he looked defeated. "I wish I had > gotten to this years ago," he said. "Is there hope? I asked. There is always > hope," he said, head hanging. > > Today, Marlene's best friend drove up from Chicago. Marlene got out of bed > for several hours, and they laughed and even danced a little. (She was with > Marlene when we met at a bar in February 1971.) A rare good day, but > rewarding for all. But it remains that all we can realistically do now is > wait and hug and whisper words of love. > > Did I tell you I deeply resent the ads from a cancer hospital that suggest > they're beating the disease? They're not. It's a blatant lie aimed at getting > more Medicare and insurance dollars. Fuck them. > > Paul via phone > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a > sentient being since it's an animal. I don't think that a sea urchin is capable of thought, but who knows? Sea urchins have no true brain, but they are sensitive to touch, light, and chemicals. Although they do not have eyes, the entire body of sea urchins might function as a compound eye. Sea urchins feed mainly on algae, but can also feed on sea cucumbers and a wide range of invertebrates, such as mussels, sponges, brittle stars, and crinoids. So, they eat other animal life, and thus are fair game for us (and for sea otters, who love urchins). Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT (WAY OT): Entertainment Recommendations
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > It is my experience that to a first, or even a second, approximation the > representation of anything on TV or in movies is a load of crap. TV occasionally does it well: Breaking Bad, Mad Men, The Sopranos, Orange is the New Black, House of Cards, The Americans, Homicide -- Life on the Streets, Rome The Vikings, and a few others. >Glen did mention that the US asked his father to join the military, and his >response was "Sure, as soon as you let my >family out of the camp". That is the position taken by the "protesters" in the play, including the war hero's father, sister and brother-in-law. It was also the position taken by Takei's father, which go the family sent to a harsher internment camp. On a percentage basis, fewer Japanese Americans in Hawaii were imprisoned than on the mainland, because many were essential to businesses related to the war effort, but the number was still significant and tragic. No Japanese American was accused or even suspected of espionage or sabotage during the war, and in every case Japanese sailors and soldiers who came to the islands by accident or carry out acts of war were immediately turned in by the Japanese Americans they hoped would shelter or assist them. The Honouliuli Internment Camp, Hawaiʻi's largest and longest-operating internment camp, opened in 1943 and closed in 1946. Located near Waipahu on the island of Oʻahu, the site was designated Honouliuli National Monument byPresidential Proclamation on February 19, 2015 by President Barack Obama, himself a native of the Islands. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
When a sea urchin thinks what does it think about? I assume that it must be a sentient being since it's an animal. Paul via phone > On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > "How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian? > You don't have to. They will be sure to tell you." > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf wrote: >> Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to defend or >> explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating cruelty and >> exploitation of sentient, feeling beings. >> >> I guess it's about where you draw the line. >> >> No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating cats, >> dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other primates are >> pretty much off limits, too. >> >> I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, it must >> be equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, socially advanced >> animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say yes for cows, fish or >> anything else that feels pain? >> >> So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred line in >> some cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants and no to >> animals of all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy to understand, >> at least for me. >> >> There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for now. >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >>> On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" >>> wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf >>> wrote: Nice photo anyway. >>> >>> Thanks, Frank. >>> >>> I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you >>> don't need my understanding or approval. >>> At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. >>> >>> Dan Matyola >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> -- >> >> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson >> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Getting the Shot
Great Shot! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > And here is another for the series ... > https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/The-2007-trip-to-Grandfather/i-wmMXzqB/A > > ann > >> On 10/29/2015 12:57 AM, knarf wrote: >>> >>> Some of those are quite funny. >>> >>> What's up with the "stick your butt out" thing? Stability? Aerodynamics? >>> Just lookin' sexy? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> frank >>> >>> On October 28, 2015 11:46:14 PM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" >>> wrote: http://themetapicture.com/the-different-poses-of-a-photographer/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >>> >>> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Perfect Petite Pentax Kit - GDG
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > I find the LCD > great for street photography; people don't pay as much > attention to > you because you look like less of a "serious photographer". > > For travel use (bicycle, motorcycle and hiking in my case) the K-01 > would be my pick. For general photography (if I were to have only one > camera) I'd go with the SLR. That is exactly my feelings. I use the K-01 for street photography, snaps of people at an event, and some travel when photography is not a prime purpose of the excusion, and my SLT (K-5 II S) for general photography, macros, landscapes, etc. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Marlene
Thanks for letting us know, Paul. Sorry that you—both of you—have to go through this. It sounds like you’re making good use of the time you have. Again, you—both of you—will remain in the thoughts of many. Certainly many here. Eric > On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Marlene is very private, do Im loathe to discuss her condition, but I find > myself mentioning her battle when I'm speaking on other topics, and that > feels heartless. Perhaps honesty is better. > > A peaceful and painless conclusion is now the goal.. I've pretty much known > this was inevitable since Dr. Kim, the surgeon, met with me outside the OR, > 13 months ago. After six hours in surgery he looked defeated. "I wish I had > gotten to this years ago," he said. "Is there hope? I asked. There is always > hope," he said, head hanging. > > Today, Marlene's best friend drove up from Chicago. Marlene got out of bed > for several hours, and they laughed and even danced a little. (She was with > Marlene when we met at a bar in February 1971.) A rare good day, but > rewarding for all. But it remains that all we can realistically do now is > wait and hug and whisper words of love. > > Did I tell you I deeply resent the ads from a cancer hospital that suggest > they're beating the disease? They're not. It's a blatant lie aimed at getting > more Medicare and insurance dollars. Fuck them. > > Paul via phone > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net 404-636-6142 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Poke
"How can you tell is a person is a vegetarian? You don't have to. They will be sure to tell you." Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:22 AM, knarf wrote: > Veganism really isn't hard to understand. I don't feel the need to defend or > explain it here, but it's got a lot to do with alleviating cruelty and > exploitation of sentient, feeling beings. > > I guess it's about where you draw the line. > > No one normal would eat other humans. Lots wouldn't consider eating cats, > dogs or other domesticated household pets. Great apes and other primates are > pretty much off limits, too. > > I'm of the view that if one wouldn't eat a dog because it's cruel, it must be > equally cruel to kill and eat a sensitive, intelligent, socially advanced > animal like a pig. If "no" for pigs, how can you say yes for cows, fish or > anything else that feels pain? > > So I draw the line at sentience. Yes, I know it can be a blurred line in some > cases but I feel fairly comfortable saying yes to plants and no to animals of > all sorts. It's really easy to remember. And easy to understand, at least for > me. > > There are way more reasons to be vegan but I'll leave it at that for now. > > Cheers, > > frank > > On October 29, 2015 8:26:39 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" > wrote: >>On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, knarf >>wrote: >>> Nice photo anyway. >> >>Thanks, Frank. >> >>I don't really understand the vegan movement, but then again, you >>don't need my understanding or approval. >>At least it keeps the price of red meat down a bit. >> >>Dan Matyola >>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Fryday
1. MX body. It's on eBay. http://stores.ebay.com/presuppapologetics?_rdc=1 2. 18-135. I like it, but I like my old FA28-105 better. So this goes. With caps/hood. $175. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
