Re: Tips for photographing Australia/New Zealand?

[Brian Walters]

> On 13 December 2017 at 22:33 Rob Studdert  wrote:
> 
> 
> Robert give me a buzz any time on 0418-166-870 (locally) if you need
> help or would like to catch up, best email is distu...@gmail.com, safe
> travels, have fun, hope to see you at some stage.


Same here - hope to catch up.  I should be around during that period unless we
have a high bushfire risk.


Cheers

Brian

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> On 13 December 2017 at 06:19, Gonz  wrote:
> > Well, my flight is tonight. Arriving Thursday the 14th first in
> > Sydney, then on to Queenstown in the NZ south island.  Will spend
> > about 3 weeks in the upside down.  I'll be in AUS starting the 26th
> > and leave the 2nd.  Should be fun.  Can't wait!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Brian Walters 
> > wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017, at 09:33 AM, Philip Northeast wrote:
> >>> I would skip the north island of Australia as well
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh - so that's the way it's going to be, is it?
> >>
> >> ;-)>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> +
> >> Brian Walters
> >> Webmaster
> >> Australian Native Plants Society (Australia)
> >> http://anpsa.org.au
> >> https://www.facebook.com/anpsa
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/02/2017 1:54 am, Gonz wrote:
> >>> > Thanks Bob, those are great pics!  I see you visited both NZ islands.
> >>> > Was the north island worth it?  I'm thinking of skipping it, logistics
> >>> > and all.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >> Gonz,
> >>> >> Don't miss a tour from Rob.
> >>> >> It was the highlight of our time in Sidney!
> >>> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Below are some pictures from our 2006 trip to NZ & OZ.
> >>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPjmdZIco-Aqp1HhXk9znLKvHaVqLIbkQcVRyeR
> >>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipOsFDtJlhmdHzXxvmclx4Gtt6b0rOgR4xIz5paW
> >>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPULX2eAlElFwMZa34DTgHdELJmHpSMHcVnvC9L
> >>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipO9IAAECiubn0nggrn79sN7Oy5tcwnvUKpogku3
> >>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipMkQEzZ1L8F4_0Mw3iz6mqhCZNXKgjPPfLPG9PY
> >>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipNWYnmLgR7w3Vrk5Jy9mFXf5f8Qwi3gHnuVBXBZ
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Thanks Rob!  I know I should be in Sydney at the end of the year, I'm
> >>> >>> estimating Dec 27 right now, staying through at least Jan 1, probably
> >>> >>> later, as return flights are going to be scarce.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob Studdert 
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>>  Gonz,
> >>> 
> >>>  Let me know when your trip firms, glad to give you a tour and some
> >>>  tips in Sydney and surrounds when you're down-under.
> >>> 
> >>>  Cheers,
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>  On 21 January 2017 at 08:17, David Mann  wrote:
> >>> > Regarding the Sydney sights you can buy a multi-pass which will get
> >>> > you
> >>> >>> a very good discount for multiple attractions.  You can buy the pass
> >>> >>> at any
> >>> >>> one of the attractions.  You have to visit that one first, then go
> >>> >>> through
> >>> >>> the others at your leisure.  So pick which one you want to do first
> >>> >>> and buy
> >>> >>> the pass through their website.
> >>> >
> >>> > https://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/tickets/attractions-passes/
> >>> >
> >>> > FWIW I think they're all worth doing if you have the time, but don't
> >>> >>> expect to get good photos from the tower.
> >>> >
> >>> > Igor mentioned the Queen Victoria Building, I'd definitely second
> >>> >>> that.  You can get tours in the Opera House.  And he's right about the
> >>> >>> bridge-climb tours.  Horribly expensive and you're not allowed to
> >>> >>> carry
> >>> >>> anything in case it drops.  Walk the path across and the views will be
> >>> >>> almost as good, for free.
> >>> >
> >>> > Cheers,
> >>> > Dave
> >>> >
> >>> >> On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Gonz  wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Fantastic Igor.  I'll definitely look into many of those places.
> >>> >>  Our
> >>> >> time is short in SYD, most of the time we will be in NZ, but we'll
> >>> >> make the best of it.  Probably stay downtown so we can go see the
> >>> >> main
> >>> >> sights easily.
> >>> >
> >>> >
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Re: Second thoughts about Pentax

[Paul Stenquist]

And the DA 50-:200, while adequate, is not a stellar performer.

Paul

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 7:44 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> It could be a matter of in camera processing if you were shooting jpegs. Even 
> when shooting RAW the default settings of your converter can 
> Make a huge difference. The only fair comparison is between expert renderings 
> of each. A half dozen years ago I was shooting for Harris Publications with a 
> K5. The art directors marveled at how sharp and detailed my images were and 
> wanted to know what kind of camera I was using. I suspect the difference was 
> in the rendering— and the glass. I was shooting with the DA* 60-250 and DA* 
> 16-50. Both are superb lenses. Of course the K5 is now old technology.
> Paul
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> At one time I would not have considered any equipment other than Pentax. A 
>> little over two years ago I bought a Fuji X-Q1 compact to take with me on a 
>> trip to Italy that was going to include a week on bicycles. I was impressed 
>> with the images I got with it. Also never would have considered a 
>> camera—other than a compact—without a view finder. I ended up getting myself 
>> a Fuji X-M1 mirrorless and a 28 mm lens. Since doing so I’ve become 
>> comfortable with not having a viewfinder. The LCD screen gives me the same 
>> information I’d get in a viewfinder. My only complaint is that it’s 
>> sometimes difficult to read the screen in bright sunlight.
>> 
>> Yesterday I took my Pentax K-5 with the DA 4-5.6 50-200 zoom and the Fuji 
>> X-M1 with the 28mm lens with me to the graduation ceremony. I used the 
>> Pentax during the ceremony to get shots of my subject from a distance and 
>> the Fuji for closer range shots of her and her family interacting with 
>> others after the ceremony. Not the first time I’ve noticed it, but I was 
>> just really impressed with the difference in the images I got. Those from 
>> the Fuji are markedly sharper and “livelier,” those from the Pentax duller 
>> in comparison. 
>> 
>> Maybe I just don’t know how to use the Pentax?  
>> 
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>> Decatur, GA  USA
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>> you learn something no one has learned before." 
>> 
>> - Richard Feynman
>> 
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Re: Second thoughts about Pentax

[Paul Stenquist]

It could be a matter of in camera processing if you were shooting jpegs. Even 
when shooting RAW the default settings of your converter can 
Make a huge difference. The only fair comparison is between expert renderings 
of each. A half dozen years ago I was shooting for Harris Publications with a 
K5. The art directors marveled at how sharp and detailed my images were and 
wanted to know what kind of camera I was using. I suspect the difference was in 
the rendering— and the glass. I was shooting with the DA* 60-250 and DA* 16-50. 
Both are superb lenses. Of course the K5 is now old technology.
Paul

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> At one time I would not have considered any equipment other than Pentax. A 
> little over two years ago I bought a Fuji X-Q1 compact to take with me on a 
> trip to Italy that was going to include a week on bicycles. I was impressed 
> with the images I got with it. Also never would have considered a 
> camera—other than a compact—without a view finder. I ended up getting myself 
> a Fuji X-M1 mirrorless and a 28 mm lens. Since doing so I’ve become 
> comfortable with not having a viewfinder. The LCD screen gives me the same 
> information I’d get in a viewfinder. My only complaint is that it’s sometimes 
> difficult to read the screen in bright sunlight.
> 
> Yesterday I took my Pentax K-5 with the DA 4-5.6 50-200 zoom and the Fuji 
> X-M1 with the 28mm lens with me to the graduation ceremony. I used the Pentax 
> during the ceremony to get shots of my subject from a distance and the Fuji 
> for closer range shots of her and her family interacting with others after 
> the ceremony. Not the first time I’ve noticed it, but I was just really 
> impressed with the difference in the images I got. Those from the Fuji are 
> markedly sharper and “livelier,” those from the Pentax duller in comparison. 
> 
> Maybe I just don’t know how to use the Pentax?  
> 
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> Decatur, GA  USA
> eew...@bellsouth.net
> 
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> you learn something no one has learned before." 
> 
> - Richard Feynman
> 
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:43 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> USB would work fine. If you're putting any kind of watermark or copyright 
> notice on the images, you definitely want to give them the copyright release 
> because a lot of labs like Walmart, CVS, Costco won't allow them to print the 
> images without it.

Thanks, John. Had not occurred to me. 

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:38 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> The sensor in our DSLRs have a ratio of 2:3
> 
> Hi-res means the image can be printed at 300dpi. Size the images to 2400x3600 
> and they can print any size up to 8"x12".
> 
> Lo-res images are displayed on a computer screen at 72dpi. I'd go 800x1200 
> just to make the math simple.

Thanks, John. Sometimes I can figure things out, but a lot of the time I have 
to have them spelled out.

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks again, Mark. Hopefully one last puzzlement. You suggest 6-megapixel 
>> images but also 2000 X 6000 pixels, which is 12-magapixels.
> 
> Sorry. I meant 2000 x 3000
> 
>> And by consumer printers I take it you’re referring to places like Fed-Ex 
>> Office or Walmart?
> 
> Yep. And CVS and Walgreens, etc.

Thanks again, Mark. I think all my puzzlements have been taken care of.

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> - ALWAYS curate what you show them FIRST to be your best work, and show them 
> the FINISHED work, not "work in progress."
> - ONLY offer what shows your work off in the best light.
> 
> [IR: It's been formulated before, - possibly by Larry: "You are judged by 
> your worst photo presented”]

I noted this when Godfrey shared it, Igor, but appreciate your reemphasizing it.

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 1. I have a policy: I never give RAW files to anybody. (In the film era, I've 
> never given negatives to anybody, with just one exception for a close friend 
> of mine per a special agreement).
> I would only consider giving RAW files in very special cases.
> 
> Several photographers that I know have a similar policy.
> 
> When I give photos to others for printing, - I give those as the 
> Full-resolution JPEGs with the maximum quality level.
> (Also, just in case, I save them in sRGB color space to avoid any confusion.)
> 
> 
> 2. If you are not printing yourself anywhat routinely at home, I would 
> consider mpix.com for ordering the prints. Last time I checked, they can also 
> "drop-ship" to your clients directly, and IIRC, even in a discreet packaging, 
> not revealing the shop name, if requested. (Verify that, my memory might 
> deceive me here.)
> 
> 3. The optimum way of choosing the photos in the situation like yours is to 
> post them to a website (Flickr will do), with the filenames that can be used 
> for identification, asking your  clients to provide you with the list of 
> numbers.
> 
> 4. When I provide full-res. photos, I usually upload them to one of the 
> online storage accounts (I like box.com) - in a separate folder, and set 
> sharing via a direct link, which I provide to the addressee.
> Box.com interface provides convenient interface for both previewing and 
> downloading single images, as well as the entire folder.
> (I am sure that most other similar sites, such as dropbox, google-drive, have 
> very similar interfaces.)
> 
> Just in case:
> Before sending the link to the clients, check in a browser where you are not 
> logged in as yourself (e.g. by opening an "Incognito" browser window), that 
> the link works and doesn't require creating any account or whatsoever.

Thanks, Igor. Lots of good suggestions there. Especially about using Flickr to 
let them preview images; using Box—I use DropBox--to make files available to 
clients; and the printing service.

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Second thoughts about Pentax

[Eric Weir]

At one time I would not have considered any equipment other than Pentax. A 
little over two years ago I bought a Fuji X-Q1 compact to take with me on a 
trip to Italy that was going to include a week on bicycles. I was impressed 
with the images I got with it. Also never would have considered a camera—other 
than a compact—without a view finder. I ended up getting myself a Fuji X-M1 
mirrorless and a 28 mm lens. Since doing so I’ve become comfortable with not 
having a viewfinder. The LCD screen gives me the same information I’d get in a 
viewfinder. My only complaint is that it’s sometimes difficult to read the 
screen in bright sunlight.

Yesterday I took my Pentax K-5 with the DA 4-5.6 50-200 zoom and the Fuji X-M1 
with the 28mm lens with me to the graduation ceremony. I used the Pentax during 
the ceremony to get shots of my subject from a distance and the Fuji for closer 
range shots of her and her family interacting with others after the ceremony. 
Not the first time I’ve noticed it, but I was just really impressed with the 
difference in the images I got. Those from the Fuji are markedly sharper and 
“livelier,” those from the Pentax duller in comparison. 

Maybe I just don’t know how to use the Pentax?  

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[John]

On 12/13/2017 18:25, Eric Weir wrote:



On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John  wrote:

I would burn the images to a CD/DVD.  Provide hi-res JPEG files they can print 
and lo-res copies in case they want to post them to Facebook or other social 
media.

I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release granting 
them permission to print the images (save them a hassle from any photolab they 
might ask to make the prints).


Thanks, John. I don’t have a CD drive, but was thinking of putting the files on 
a USB stick. I’m putting a watermark on the images, but hadn’t thought of give 
them a release. Will do.




USB would work fine. If you're putting any kind of watermark or copyright 
notice on the images, you definitely want to give them the copyright release 
because a lot of labs like Walmart, CVS, Costco won't allow them to print the 
images without it.



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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[John]

The sensor in our DSLRs have a ratio of 2:3

Hi-res means the image can be printed at 300dpi. Size the images to 2400x3600 and they 
can print any size up to 8"x12".

Lo-res images are displayed on a computer screen at 72dpi. I'd go 800x1200 just 
to make the math simple.



On 12/13/2017 18:01, Eric Weir wrote:

On Dec 13, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Ken got it right. High quality hi-res jpegs are fine for making prints. Both 
low-res and hi-res should be in SRGB color space. Don’t release RAW files, even 
if someone requests them. The RAWs are your negatives, and public images should 
reflect your rendering.


I appreciate all the responses—Mark, Ken’s, and Paul’s suggestions of providing 
only low-res and hi-res JPEs and Godfrey’s admonition about offering my 
renderings. A little fuzzy about how low- and high-res get specified, but have 
put that question to Mark in my response to him.

Sincerely,




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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Mark Roberts]

Eric Weir wrote:

>
>
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't worry about setting ppi. Consumer printers will handle that by
>> themselves when the customer chooses a print size (and I've printed up
>> to 12 x 18 from 6MP ist-D files). For phones and tablets the display
>> driver will scale the image appropriately, regardless of ppi.
>> 
>> I don't think there's a phone made these days with less than an
>> 8-megapixel camera so they can handle images at least that big, by
>> definition.
>> 
>> In short, there's no need to make high-resolution and high resolution
>> versions of the images: Give 'em 6MP and they'll be able to show the
>> photos on their phones and print as large as they're ever likely to
>> want. Less work for you.
>
>Thanks again, Mark. Hopefully one last puzzlement. You suggest 6-megapixel 
>images but also 2000 X 6000 pixels, which is 12-magapixels.

Sorry. I meant 2000 x 3000

>And by consumer printers I take it you’re referring to places like Fed-Ex 
>Office or Walmart?

Yep. And CVS and Walgreens, etc.
 
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Don't worry about setting ppi. Consumer printers will handle that by
> themselves when the customer chooses a print size (and I've printed up
> to 12 x 18 from 6MP ist-D files). For phones and tablets the display
> driver will scale the image appropriately, regardless of ppi.
> 
> I don't think there's a phone made these days with less than an
> 8-megapixel camera so they can handle images at least that big, by
> definition.
> 
> In short, there's no need to make high-resolution and high resolution
> versions of the images: Give 'em 6MP and they'll be able to show the
> photos on their phones and print as large as they're ever likely to
> want. Less work for you.

Thanks again, Mark. Hopefully one last puzzlement. You suggest 6-megapixel 
images but also 2000 X 6000 pixels, which is 12-magapixels.

And by consumer printers I take it you’re referring to places like Fed-Ex 
Office or Walmart?

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 6:16 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I would burn the images to a CD/DVD.  Provide hi-res JPEG files they can 
> print and lo-res copies in case they want to post them to Facebook or other 
> social media.
> 
> I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release 
> granting them permission to print the images (save them a hassle from any 
> photolab they might ask to make the prints).

Thanks, John. I don’t have a CD drive, but was thinking of putting the files on 
a USB stick. I’m putting a watermark on the images, but hadn’t thought of give 
them a release. Will do.

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Mark Roberts]

Eric Weir wrote:

>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Mark Roberts  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Downsize everything to 2000 x 6000 pixels
>> Convert to sRGB color space
>> Give 'em hi res JPEGs and wash your hands of it.
>> 
>> The 6-megapixel size will work on most phones and tablets (my tablet's
>> native resolution is around 5MP) and allow them to zoom in without
>> getting pixilated. JPEG format in sRGB will let them go to any local
>> shop with a print kiosk and make their own prints. Done.
>
>Thanks, Mark. Clear and helpful overall, but I’m a  bit unclear about the 
>relation of pixel size and print size. You suggest 2000 X 6000 pixels. Will 
>that work for a print of any moderate size, e.g., 4X6 or 5X7? Don’t I need to 
>specify pixels per inch? Likewise in setting pixel size for use on phones and 
>tablets. Doesn’t pixels per inch need to be specified there too?

Don't worry about setting ppi. Consumer printers will handle that by
themselves when the customer chooses a print size (and I've printed up
to 12 x 18 from 6MP ist-D files). For phones and tablets the display
driver will scale the image appropriately, regardless of ppi.

I don't think there's a phone made these days with less than an
8-megapixel camera so they can handle images at least that big, by
definition.

In short, there's no need to make high-resolution and high resolution
versions of the images: Give 'em 6MP and they'll be able to show the
photos on their phones and print as large as they're ever likely to
want. Less work for you.
 
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> I’m a  bit unclear about the relation of pixel size and print size.

I have Lightroom export specifications specified in different ways. One is for 
an image 4 X 6 inches with 300 pixels per inch. I take it that would be 
considered high-res. The other is for an image 500 pixels on the long side with 
72 pixels per inch. I’m not sure what that is? Would that be low-res? Would it 
work for phones and tablets? 

I use the Lightroom plug-in in uploading images to Flickr. The parameters for 
image size there are 1200 pixels on the long side with pixels per inch 
unspecified. Is that low- or high-res? Would that specification work for 
creating images for phones or tablets?

Thanks again, 
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[John]

I would burn the images to a CD/DVD.  Provide hi-res JPEG files they can print 
and lo-res copies in case they want to post them to Facebook or other social 
media.

I would also include a text file on the disk with a copyright release granting 
them permission to print the images (save them a hassle from any photolab they 
might ask to make the prints).


On 12/13/2017 11:34, Eric Weir wrote:


My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have not 
printed a single image.

Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high honors.) 
I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection and edited a 
few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. I suspect I’ll end 
up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m not sure what to do with 
them, i.e., how to make them available to the family.

I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or two 
for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could do as 
usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea what to do. 
A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW files on a USB stick 
and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to do with that, especially 
the RAW files. If there are images that they’d like printed I could figure out 
how to get that done and give them the prints.

Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
--
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Decatur, GA  USA
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Ken got it right. High quality hi-res jpegs are fine for making prints. Both 
> low-res and hi-res should be in SRGB color space. Don’t release RAW files, 
> even if someone requests them. The RAWs are your negatives, and public images 
> should reflect your rendering.

I appreciate all the responses—Mark, Ken’s, and Paul’s suggestions of providing 
only low-res and hi-res JPEs and Godfrey’s admonition about offering my 
renderings. A little fuzzy about how low- and high-res get specified, but have 
put that question to Mark in my response to him. 

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Downsize everything to 2000 x 6000 pixels
> Convert to sRGB color space
> Give 'em hi res JPEGs and wash your hands of it.
> 
> The 6-megapixel size will work on most phones and tablets (my tablet's
> native resolution is around 5MP) and allow them to zoom in without
> getting pixilated. JPEG format in sRGB will let them go to any local
> shop with a print kiosk and make their own prints. Done.

Thanks, Mark. Clear and helpful overall, but I’m a  bit unclear about the 
relation of pixel size and print size. You suggest 2000 X 6000 pixels. Will 
that work for a print of any moderate size, e.g., 4X6 or 5X7? Don’t I need to 
specify pixels per inch? Likewise in setting pixel size for use on phones and 
tablets. Doesn’t pixels per inch need to be specified there too?

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Long experience delivering prints and image files to clients says to me:
> - ALWAYS curate what you show them FIRST to be your best work, and show them 
> the FINISHED work, not "work in progress."
> - ONLY offer what shows your work off in the best light. 
> 
> It almost never makes sense to offer too many things. Keep it simple. A set 
> of JPEGs and a set of prints is as much as most clients or giftees will ever 
> look at. 

Thanks, Godfrey. What I’ve quoted is definitely not all that I found helpful, 
but it’s what I take from it overall. Bottom line: It’s up to me. Do my best. 
Go from there. 

And this is a gift to my “client,” something I am happy to do for the family, 
especially when it challenges me photographically. 

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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Paul Stenquist]

Ken got it right. High quality hi-res jpegs are fine for making prints. Both 
low-res and hi-res should be in SRGB color space. Don’t release RAW files, even 
if someone requests them. The RAWs are your negatives, and public images should 
reflect your rendering.

Paul

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, suggest you provide jpegs in two versions - low res for use on phones 
> and computer and high res suitable for printing and not provide the RAW files.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Weir 
>> Subject: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"
>> 
>> 
>> My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have 
>> not printed a single image.
>> 
>> Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
>> graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high 
>> honors.) I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection and 
>> edited a few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. I 
>> suspect I’ll end up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m not 
>> sure what to do with them, i.e., how to make them available to the family.  
>> 
>> I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or two 
>> for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could do as 
>> usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea what to 
>> do. A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW files on a USB 
>> stick and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to do with that, 
>> especially the RAW files. If there are images that they’d like printed I 
>> could figure out how to get that done and give them the prints.
>> 
>> Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Eric Weir
>> Decatur, GA  USA
>> eew...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> “...we are a form of invitation to others and to otherness..."
>> 
>> - David Whyte
> 
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Ken Waller]

FWIW, suggest you provide jpegs in two versions - low res for use on phones and 
computer and high res suitable for printing and not provide the RAW files.


-Original Message-
>From: Eric Weir 
>Subject: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"
>
>
>My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have 
>not printed a single image.
>
>Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
>graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high honors.) 
>I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection and edited a 
>few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. I suspect I’ll 
>end up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m not sure what to do 
>with them, i.e., how to make them available to the family.  
>
>I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or two 
>for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could do as 
>usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea what to do. 
>A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW files on a USB stick 
>and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to do with that, especially 
>the RAW files. If there are images that they’d like printed I could figure out 
>how to get that done and give them the prints.
>
>Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated. 
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Eric Weir
>Decatur, GA  USA
>eew...@bellsouth.net
>
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>
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Mark Roberts]

Eric Weir wrote:

>
>My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have 
>not printed a single image.
>
>Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
>graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high honors.) 
>I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection and edited a 
>few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. I suspect I’ll 
>end up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m not sure what to do 
>with them, i.e., how to make them available to the family.  
>
>I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or two 
>for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could do as 
>usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea what to do. 
>A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW files on a USB stick 
>and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to do with that, especially 
>the RAW files. If there are images that they’d like printed I could figure out 
>how to get that done and give them the prints.
>
>Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated. 

Downsize everything to 2000 x 6000 pixels
Convert to sRGB color space
Give 'em hi res JPEGs and wash your hands of it.

The 6-megapixel size will work on most phones and tablets (my tablet's
native resolution is around 5MP) and allow them to zoom in without
getting pixilated. JPEG format in sRGB will let them go to any local
shop with a print kiosk and make their own prints. Done.
 
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Igor PDML-StR]

Godfrey made several very good points. I had  been thinking about some of 
them myself, but forgot to add to my response.
And I would like to highlight a few of them, very nicely formulated by 
Godfrey with minor comments from myself:


 Godfrey DiGiorgi Wed, 13 Dec 2017 09:04:52 -0800 wrote:

- A reasonable size that they can put on their phones, essentially, 
something like 1600 pixels on the long edge works well.


[IR: And that works for most computer screens and tablets too.]


 -Forget delivering raw files ... It's not only a waste of time 
because they will almost invariably not know what to do with them, but it 
usually turns them off ...


[IR: So true! And falls under the KISS principle.]



- ALWAYS curate what you show them FIRST to be your best work, and show 
them the FINISHED work, not "work in progress."

- ONLY offer what shows your work off in the best light.

[IR: It's been formulated before, - possibly by Larry: "You are judged by 
your worst photo presented"]



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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Igor PDML-StR]

Eric,

1. I have a policy: I never give RAW files to anybody. (In the film era, 
I've never given negatives to anybody, with just one exception for a close 
friend of mine per a special agreement).

I would only consider giving RAW files in very special cases.

Several photographers that I know have a similar policy.

When I give photos to others for printing, - I give those as the 
Full-resolution JPEGs with the maximum quality level.
(Also, just in case, I save them in sRGB color space to avoid any 
confusion.)



2. If you are not printing yourself anywhat routinely at home, I 
would consider mpix.com for ordering the prints. Last time I checked, they 
can also "drop-ship" to your clients directly, and IIRC, even in a 
discreet packaging, not revealing the shop name, if requested. (Verify 
that, my memory might deceive me here.)


3. The optimum way of choosing the photos in the situation like yours is 
to post them to a website (Flickr will do), with the filenames that can be 
used for identification, asking your  clients to provide you with the list 
of numbers.


4. When I provide full-res. photos, I usually upload them to one of the 
online storage accounts (I like box.com) - in a separate folder, and set 
sharing via a direct link, which I provide to the addressee.
Box.com interface provides convenient interface for both previewing and 
downloading single images, as well as the entire folder.
(I am sure that most other similar sites, such as dropbox, google-drive, 
have very similar interfaces.)


Just in case:
Before sending the link to the clients, check in a browser where you are 
not logged in as yourself (e.g. by opening an "Incognito" browser window), 
that the link works and doesn't require creating any account or 
whatsoever.



HTH,

Igor


Eric Weir Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:36:06 -0800 wrote:

My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I 
have not printed a single image.



Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high 
honors.) I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection 
and edited a few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. 
I suspect I’ll end up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m 
not sure what to do with them, i.e., how to make them available to the 
family.


I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or 
two for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could 
do as usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea 
what to do. A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW 
files on a USB stick and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to 
do with that, especially the RAW files. If there are images that they’d 
like printed I could figure out how to get that done and give them the 
prints.


Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

First: Is this for pay or as a gift? In either case, talk to them, show them 
the photographs, and ask if they'd like any. Presuming they say yes...

- Make a set of JPEGs of the best ones for them. A reasonable size that they 
can put on their phones, essentially, something like 1600 pixels on the long 
edge works well. 

- Forget delivering raw files to anyone who is not a professional client AND 
didn't request them specifically. It's not only a waste of time because they 
will almost invariably not know what to do with them, but it usually turns them 
off if they ever do find a way to display them since they're raw and not a 
finished, rendered photograph. ... You want to give them YOUR renderings, not 
what the camera recorded, in a finished format (JPEG is best these days). 

- Make a set of nice 5x7 or 8x12 prints of the best ones for them. (I usually 
make whatever format proportions work for the images and print them onto high 
quality 8.5x11 paper with at least 1 to 1.5" borders.) That's PLENTY for them 
to use if they want to make a collage ... let THEM make the collage. 

- Then, if they want something else, get them to define what it is they're 
looking for and make that. For instance if they want wallet sized small prints, 
have them printed up by a print service for them. Etc. 

Long experience delivering prints and image files to clients says to me:
- ALWAYS curate what you show them FIRST to be your best work, and show them 
the FINISHED work, not "work in progress."
- ONLY offer what shows your work off in the best light. 

It almost never makes sense to offer too many things. Keep it simple. A set of 
JPEGs and a set of prints is as much as most clients or giftees will ever look 
at. 

G
—
No matter where you go, there you are. 

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> 
> My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have 
> not printed a single image.
> 
> Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
> graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high 
> honors.) I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection and 
> edited a few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. I 
> suspect I’ll end up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m not 
> sure what to do with them, i.e., how to make them available to the family.  
> 
> I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or two 
> for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could do as 
> usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea what to 
> do. A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW files on a USB 
> stick and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to do with that, 
> especially the RAW files. If there are images that they’d like printed I 
> could figure out how to get that done and give them the prints.
> 
> Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> --
> Eric Weir
> Decatur, GA  USA
> eew...@bellsouth.net
> 

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Floundering about how to provide images for a "client"

[Eric Weir]

My only experience publishing photos is putting albums up on Flickr. I have not 
printed a single image.

Yesterday I photographed an Iraqi refugee family at a community college 
graduation ceremony here. (One of their daughters graduated with high honors.) 
I’ve weeded out the worthless images, done an initial selection and edited a 
few, which I’ve shared with them as attachments to an email. I suspect I’ll end 
up with 15 or 20 decent or interesting images, but I’m not sure what to do with 
them, i.e., how to make them available to the family.  

I imagine they might want to put images on their phones, to print one or two 
for framing, maybe to create a printed collage. For the first I could do as 
usual and put an album up on Flickr. For the latter I have no idea what to do. 
A thought is to put the edited JPEGs and the original RAW files on a USB stick 
and give it to them. Not sure they would know what to do with that, especially 
the RAW files. If there are images that they’d like printed I could figure out 
how to get that done and give them the prints.

Clearly, I’m floundering. Suggestions would be much appreciated. 

Thanks,
--
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Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

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Re: PESO - Uphill

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I have done the downhill a few times over the last 30 years, and it is
always a thrill, especially after a great sunrise on the summit.  My first
two trips were back when the NPS permitted the bike groups to start from
the parking lot at the top about 10,000 ft asl.  Now, they have to start
outside the park, at about the 7,000 foot lever, but it is still a great
ride.  I always looks forward to the fragrant drive through the eucalyptus
groves and the hazards area where the cattle had just crossed the road,
leaving behind their fragrant momentos.

Each day in Maui is Paradise Found.

28 more days, and I will be there!

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> I've done the downhill run several times, generally in the early morning,
> with a helmet and mega bike brakes it's really a blast
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Rick Womer 
> >Subject: PESO - Uphill
> >
> >There are two kinds of bicyclists on Haleakala in Maui.
> >
> >The first are those who ride in vans with racks full of bicycles up to
> the top, and ride down.
> >
> >The second are those who bicycle all the way up (from the base, 10,000
> feet and 24 miles) and then ride down.
> >
> >Both are crazy.
> >
> >https://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/18443482-orig.jpg
> >
> >(K-5, DA 17-70)
> >
> >Comments appreciated!
> >
> >Rick
>
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Re: PESO - Uphill

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A classic image of one of Mauis most inspiring vistas!  Well done.

The ones going up sometimes present more of a hazard, as they are
unexpected and are not lead and followed by vans.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> There are two kinds of bicyclists on Haleakala in Maui.
>
> The first are those who ride in vans with racks full of bicycles up to the
> top, and ride down.
>
> The second are those who bicycle all the way up (from the base, 10,000
> feet and 24 miles) and then ride down.
>
> Both are crazy.
>
> https://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/18443482-orig.jpg
>
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
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Re: Peso-Haute Hawk

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The camera is merely a cleaner and more portable way of preserving the bird.


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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
>
> Really impressive!
>
> And in this view, it looks almost as a great work of a taxidermist.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
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Re: Road trip storage

[Rob Studdert]

Stan the 645z sure does eat through cards when you are shooting
multi-row HDRs ;)


On 13 December 2017 at 23:53, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> I used to carry lap top and external hard drive(s).
> No more.
> I shoot RAW on card 1, jpeg on card 2. I carry many 64gb cards, numbered, 
> used in sequence to help keep track of blank vs. used.
> The jpeg files become my backup. Every day or two I download the jpegs to my 
> iPad. Delete the bad ones, star the good ones. That stash of selected but 
> unprocessed jpegs becomes my 2nd backup. And what I use on social media along 
> the way.
> Back home I download the RAW files, throw away the jpeg files, delete the 
> cards to be ready for the next occasion.
> stan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>
>> I just use cards and delete as required. Cards are relatively cheap, easy to 
>> carry - I also use a card wallet and orient the used card differently than 
>> the empty cards.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>>> Subject: Re: Road trip storage
>>>
>>> I just use cards for the most part. I take a laptop as well, but it’s not 
>>> essential. I just like to process a few files on quiet evenings. A 64 gig 
>>> card will store enough for my two week trips, and I set the camera to back 
>>> it up to the second card. I would bring a second pair of cards as 
>>> insurance, but I doubt that I’d need them.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
 On Dec 12, 2017, at 8:08 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

 I'm planning an eastern Canada trip next summer, yes i like to plan
 ahead.:-) and i'm wondering what the collective does for long road
 trip photo storage. I'll be gone 2 weeks at least. I don
 t have a working laptop nor is one in the future, i do have an iPad
 mini but next to no storage left in it.

 So what do you all do, in this case, just use extra cards and hope you
 keep the full and empty ones separate.:-)

 Dave

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Re: Road trip storage

[Stan Halpin]

I used to carry lap top and external hard drive(s).
No more. 
I shoot RAW on card 1, jpeg on card 2. I carry many 64gb cards, numbered, used 
in sequence to help keep track of blank vs. used.
The jpeg files become my backup. Every day or two I download the jpegs to my 
iPad. Delete the bad ones, star the good ones. That stash of selected but 
unprocessed jpegs becomes my 2nd backup. And what I use on social media along 
the way.
Back home I download the RAW files, throw away the jpeg files, delete the cards 
to be ready for the next occasion.
stan

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> I just use cards and delete as required. Cards are relatively cheap, easy to 
> carry - I also use a card wallet and orient the used card differently than 
> the empty cards.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> Subject: Re: Road trip storage
>> 
>> I just use cards for the most part. I take a laptop as well, but it’s not 
>> essential. I just like to process a few files on quiet evenings. A 64 gig 
>> card will store enough for my two week trips, and I set the camera to back 
>> it up to the second card. I would bring a second pair of cards as insurance, 
>> but I doubt that I’d need them.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 8:08 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm planning an eastern Canada trip next summer, yes i like to plan
>>> ahead.:-) and i'm wondering what the collective does for long road
>>> trip photo storage. I'll be gone 2 weeks at least. I don
>>> t have a working laptop nor is one in the future, i do have an iPad
>>> mini but next to no storage left in it.
>>> 
>>> So what do you all do, in this case, just use extra cards and hope you
>>> keep the full and empty ones separate.:-)
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
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>>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Road trip storage

[Rob Studdert]

I have big cards but also one of these,
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1244324-REG/wd_wdbp2p0020bbk_nesn_2tb_my_passport_wireless.html

It will copy your card to the drive without need for any additional
equipment and will also double up as a 5v USB charging port for phones
etc.



On 13 December 2017 at 15:19, Ken Waller  wrote:
> I just use cards and delete as required. Cards are relatively cheap, easy to 
> carry - I also use a card wallet and orient the used card differently than 
> the empty cards.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Paul Stenquist 
>>Subject: Re: Road trip storage
>>
>>I just use cards for the most part. I take a laptop as well, but it’s not 
>>essential. I just like to process a few files on quiet evenings. A 64 gig 
>>card will store enough for my two week trips, and I set the camera to back it 
>>up to the second card. I would bring a second pair of cards as insurance, but 
>>I doubt that I’d need them.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2017, at 8:08 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm planning an eastern Canada trip next summer, yes i like to plan
>>> ahead.:-) and i'm wondering what the collective does for long road
>>> trip photo storage. I'll be gone 2 weeks at least. I don
>>> t have a working laptop nor is one in the future, i do have an iPad
>>> mini but next to no storage left in it.
>>>
>>> So what do you all do, in this case, just use extra cards and hope you
>>> keep the full and empty ones separate.:-)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --
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>>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>>> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Tips for photographing Australia/New Zealand?

[Rob Studdert]

Robert give me a buzz any time on 0418-166-870 (locally) if you need
help or would like to catch up, best email is distu...@gmail.com, safe
travels, have fun, hope to see you at some stage.

Cheers,


On 13 December 2017 at 06:19, Gonz  wrote:
> Well, my flight is tonight. Arriving Thursday the 14th first in
> Sydney, then on to Queenstown in the NZ south island.  Will spend
> about 3 weeks in the upside down.  I'll be in AUS starting the 26th
> and leave the 2nd.  Should be fun.  Can't wait!
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017, at 09:33 AM, Philip Northeast wrote:
>>> I would skip the north island of Australia as well
>>
>>
>> Oh - so that's the way it's going to be, is it?
>>
>> ;-)>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> +
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>>>
>>> On 7/02/2017 1:54 am, Gonz wrote:
>>> > Thanks Bob, those are great pics!  I see you visited both NZ islands.
>>> > Was the north island worth it?  I'm thinking of skipping it, logistics
>>> > and all.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Bob Sullivan  
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> Gonz,
>>> >> Don't miss a tour from Rob.
>>> >> It was the highlight of our time in Sidney!
>>> >> Regards,  Bob S.
>>> >>
>>> >> Below are some pictures from our 2006 trip to NZ & OZ.
>>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPjmdZIco-Aqp1HhXk9znLKvHaVqLIbkQcVRyeR
>>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipOsFDtJlhmdHzXxvmclx4Gtt6b0rOgR4xIz5paW
>>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipPULX2eAlElFwMZa34DTgHdELJmHpSMHcVnvC9L
>>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipO9IAAECiubn0nggrn79sN7Oy5tcwnvUKpogku3
>>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipMkQEzZ1L8F4_0Mw3iz6mqhCZNXKgjPPfLPG9PY
>>> >> https://get.google.com/albumarchive/115638976374047590388/album/AF1QipNWYnmLgR7w3Vrk5Jy9mFXf5f8Qwi3gHnuVBXBZ
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thanks Rob!  I know I should be in Sydney at the end of the year, I'm
>>> >>> estimating Dec 27 right now, staying through at least Jan 1, probably
>>> >>> later, as return flights are going to be scarce.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Rob Studdert 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>>  Gonz,
>>> 
>>>  Let me know when your trip firms, glad to give you a tour and some
>>>  tips in Sydney and surrounds when you're down-under.
>>> 
>>>  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On 21 January 2017 at 08:17, David Mann  wrote:
>>> > Regarding the Sydney sights you can buy a multi-pass which will get 
>>> > you
>>> >>> a very good discount for multiple attractions.  You can buy the pass at 
>>> >>> any
>>> >>> one of the attractions.  You have to visit that one first, then go 
>>> >>> through
>>> >>> the others at your leisure.  So pick which one you want to do first and 
>>> >>> buy
>>> >>> the pass through their website.
>>> >
>>> > https://www.sydneyaquarium.com.au/tickets/attractions-passes/
>>> >
>>> > FWIW I think they're all worth doing if you have the time, but don't
>>> >>> expect to get good photos from the tower.
>>> >
>>> > Igor mentioned the Queen Victoria Building, I'd definitely second
>>> >>> that.  You can get tours in the Opera House.  And he's right about the
>>> >>> bridge-climb tours.  Horribly expensive and you're not allowed to carry
>>> >>> anything in case it drops.  Walk the path across and the views will be
>>> >>> almost as good, for free.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Dave
>>> >
>>> >> On Jan 21, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Gonz  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Fantastic Igor.  I'll definitely look into many of those places.  Our
>>> >> time is short in SYD, most of the time we will be in NZ, but we'll
>>> >> make the best of it.  Probably stay downtown so we can go see the 
>>> >> main
>>> >> sights easily.
>>> >
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