Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
I'm running Acrobat XI and Adobe Reader DC  under Windows 10. Never see 
and cloud nonsense.   That may be because I have OneDrive turned off.  
I've blocked the cloud on all my computers/devices, where I find the 
option to do so.


Otis


On 6/14/2018 11:33, John wrote:

On 6/14/2018 01:26, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:26:43PM -0400, John wrote:
Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a 
PDF file.
IN FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well 
enough

alone?


You don't have to use any of the cloud features - I only use it for 
viewing

and printing local PDF files.



Don't have to use them, but I've been having to fight my way through 
them to get to my PDF files. Couldn't find any way to shut the 
unwanted crap off so it would just open the file for me to see it.


I have uninstalled it and managed to find a copy of Acrobat Reader XI, 
which while no longer supported, does allow me to open my PDF 
documents right into reading mode.


I don't have to plow through a bunch of unwanted "features" before I 
can get to my document.






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Re: GESO - History told by cars - far-far-away nearby county

2018-06-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
 Very nice. I like the way you’ve provided visual context.
Paul

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> thanks for that. really enjoyed the photos as well as your take on
> that...
> 
> subash
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
> Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
>> I had a very brief visit to Cuba last year.
>> One of the things that everybody who visits Cuba realizes is the old
>> cars on the streets. I've heard this long before the trip, and saw
>> plenty of photos. But the personal impression was much stronger.
>> 
>> If you are not interested in reading the story, - feel free
>> to skip it: https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/ .
>> 
>> 
>> While looking at the cars, I realized that the cars essentially tell
>> the geo-political history of that country.
>> 
>> You see many "classic" pre-1959 US models, including Oldsmobile, 
>> Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Plymouth.
>> Those symbolize the vicinity and the close connection to the US prior
>> to the revolution.
>> 
>> Then you see Lada (aka VAZ), Moskvich, Volga (and Kamaz and ZIL
>> trucks) - brands from the Soviet Union - covering the "Soviet Block"
>> era (1960-80s)
>> 
>> And then, you see European makes: Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Mercedes (I 
>> don't remember, maybe also VW), Korean Kia and Hyundai, and a 
>> few Chinese makes: Geely, Emgrand, GAC, as well as Chinese-Australian 
>> (SAIC) Maxus and MG. Most of these cars are from post-2008, the era
>> when _some_ small private business has been allowed in this highly
>> regulated country, and especially post-2014, when Raul Castro, has
>> abolished the need for official permission to purchase a foreign-made
>> car. They are still much more expensive compared to what you pay for
>> them in the US and in Europe.
>> Actually, it is MUCH MORE, in capital letters.
>> 
>> I've heard that some people make a trip to Moscow, which is easy 
>> logistically, buy auto-parts, and then resell them in Cuba, - thus 
>> covering the cost of the trip and earning money for living.
>> 
>> 
>>  The presence of the cars from China is a sign of the growing
>> economic relations with China (presumably, it is the biggest (or the
>> 2nd biggest, behind Canada) trade partner for Cuba now).
>> 
>> The "classic" cars serve too major roles:
>> 1) The better preserved/restored ones (most convertible) are used for
>> the "fancy" tours around the city, - and you see many of those cars
>> parked along the "Central Park" - Parque Central - in the historical
>> part of the city "Habana Viejo" (old Havana), - next to the three
>> luxury (and very expensive! - $300+ per night at Hotel Parque
>> Central) hotels.
>> 
>> 
>> 2) The "regular" cars, often with the crude patches on the body
>> (sometimes with large rough bolts, sometimes, - torch-welded), - are
>> used as the city transportation. This includes private taxis and
>> so-called "collectivos", which stands for "collective taxi". This is
>> a type of a taxis that circulate along the well known routes (just a
>> handfull) - throughout the city. You can get in and get out along
>> those routes, and pay a fixed price (at least for locals, but we've
>> also used this): 10 or 20 CUPs, depending on the part of the city
>> where you go (about 40 and 80 US cents, respectively).
>> These collectivos can get packed: a couple of times, I was riding
>> among total of 8 passengers (in a bigger, almost SUV-ish or
>> station-vagonish old car with the 3rd row of seats)
>> I've seen a few private taxis using old Lada and even Moskvich. (If
>> you are not familiar, - those are rather small cars, no larger than
>> Dodge Colt or Toyota Tercel from 1980s)
>> 
>> 
>> Also, you can take a collectivo to travel to a different city. In
>> that case, I've read, the prices are on par or above the price 
>> for the bus (Viazul, - the buses that targeting foreigners, and 
>> Astro bus, where there is a large price difference for locals and 
>> foreigners). The advantage is that there is a bit more flexibility 
>> w.r.t the time, but you are riding in a car that might not have an
>> A/C (Viazul bus has), and might break in the middle of the road.
>> 
>> The curious thing is that quite a few collectivo drivers would
>> caution you about not slamming the door, - as the doors and door
>> latches are often a fragile point on some of the "classics".
>> 
>> 
>> So, here is a photo gallery that illustrates this story:
>> https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I've failed to take a reasonable photo of a
>> "half-taxi" - a moto-scooter with a roof that can take 2-3
>> passengers, such as this one:
>> https://www.losviajeros.net/fotos/america/Cuba/index.php?fn=coco_taxi
>> 
>> 
>> For me, it was a fun and quite an adventure to ride the collectivos
>> and and negotiate the prices with others, - mostly of the "jalopy"
>> kind. It was an inexpensive and reasonable way of getting to and from
>> a small family-owned B that I've chosen to stay at.
>> I've read that 

Re: Fw: GESO: Victims of Vesuvius

2018-06-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I find it very interesting!


Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 4:40 PM, jtainter  wrote:

> Fifth attempt:
>
> Just a caution: Some people might find this GESO disturbing:
>
> https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61260056
>
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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very interesting and well photographed.


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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:58 AM, Mark Roberts 
wrote:

> Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
> Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg
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Re: GESO - History told by cars - far-far-away nearby county

2018-06-14 Thread ann sanfedele

Enjoyed this a lot, Igor...

ann

On 6/14/2018 9:23 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

thanks for that. really enjoyed the photos as well as your take on
that...

subash


On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


I had a very brief visit to Cuba last year.
One of the things that everybody who visits Cuba realizes is the old
cars on the streets. I've heard this long before the trip, and saw
plenty of photos. But the personal impression was much stronger.

If you are not interested in reading the story, - feel free
to skip it: https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/ .


While looking at the cars, I realized that the cars essentially tell
the geo-political history of that country.

You see many "classic" pre-1959 US models, including Oldsmobile,
Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Plymouth.
Those symbolize the vicinity and the close connection to the US prior
to the revolution.

Then you see Lada (aka VAZ), Moskvich, Volga (and Kamaz and ZIL
trucks) - brands from the Soviet Union - covering the "Soviet Block"
era (1960-80s)

And then, you see European makes: Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Mercedes (I
don't remember, maybe also VW), Korean Kia and Hyundai, and a
few Chinese makes: Geely, Emgrand, GAC, as well as Chinese-Australian
(SAIC) Maxus and MG. Most of these cars are from post-2008, the era
when _some_ small private business has been allowed in this highly
regulated country, and especially post-2014, when Raul Castro, has
abolished the need for official permission to purchase a foreign-made
car. They are still much more expensive compared to what you pay for
them in the US and in Europe.
Actually, it is MUCH MORE, in capital letters.

I've heard that some people make a trip to Moscow, which is easy
logistically, buy auto-parts, and then resell them in Cuba, - thus
covering the cost of the trip and earning money for living.


   The presence of the cars from China is a sign of the growing
economic relations with China (presumably, it is the biggest (or the
2nd biggest, behind Canada) trade partner for Cuba now).

The "classic" cars serve too major roles:
1) The better preserved/restored ones (most convertible) are used for
the "fancy" tours around the city, - and you see many of those cars
parked along the "Central Park" - Parque Central - in the historical
part of the city "Habana Viejo" (old Havana), - next to the three
luxury (and very expensive! - $300+ per night at Hotel Parque
Central) hotels.


2) The "regular" cars, often with the crude patches on the body
(sometimes with large rough bolts, sometimes, - torch-welded), - are
used as the city transportation. This includes private taxis and
so-called "collectivos", which stands for "collective taxi". This is
a type of a taxis that circulate along the well known routes (just a
handfull) - throughout the city. You can get in and get out along
those routes, and pay a fixed price (at least for locals, but we've
also used this): 10 or 20 CUPs, depending on the part of the city
where you go (about 40 and 80 US cents, respectively).
These collectivos can get packed: a couple of times, I was riding
among total of 8 passengers (in a bigger, almost SUV-ish or
station-vagonish old car with the 3rd row of seats)
I've seen a few private taxis using old Lada and even Moskvich. (If
you are not familiar, - those are rather small cars, no larger than
Dodge Colt or Toyota Tercel from 1980s)


Also, you can take a collectivo to travel to a different city. In
that case, I've read, the prices are on par or above the price
for the bus (Viazul, - the buses that targeting foreigners, and
Astro bus, where there is a large price difference for locals and
foreigners). The advantage is that there is a bit more flexibility
w.r.t the time, but you are riding in a car that might not have an
A/C (Viazul bus has), and might break in the middle of the road.

The curious thing is that quite a few collectivo drivers would
caution you about not slamming the door, - as the doors and door
latches are often a fragile point on some of the "classics".


So, here is a photo gallery that illustrates this story:
https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/

Unfortunately, I've failed to take a reasonable photo of a
"half-taxi" - a moto-scooter with a roof that can take 2-3
passengers, such as this one:
https://www.losviajeros.net/fotos/america/Cuba/index.php?fn=coco_taxi


For me, it was a fun and quite an adventure to ride the collectivos
and and negotiate the prices with others, - mostly of the "jalopy"
kind. It was an inexpensive and reasonable way of getting to and from
a small family-owned B that I've chosen to stay at.
I've read that prior to 2011, it was forbidden to take foreigners
into a car that didn't have a special taxi permit, but that rule has
been relaxed since that.

I hope you enjoy the photos and the story they tell.

All comments and critique are welcome!


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Re: GESO - History told by cars - far-far-away nearby county

2018-06-14 Thread Subash Jeyan
thanks for that. really enjoyed the photos as well as your take on
that...

subash


On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:47:43 -0400 (EDT)
Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

> I had a very brief visit to Cuba last year.
> One of the things that everybody who visits Cuba realizes is the old
> cars on the streets. I've heard this long before the trip, and saw
> plenty of photos. But the personal impression was much stronger.
> 
> If you are not interested in reading the story, - feel free
> to skip it: https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/ .
> 
> 
> While looking at the cars, I realized that the cars essentially tell
> the geo-political history of that country.
> 
> You see many "classic" pre-1959 US models, including Oldsmobile, 
> Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Plymouth.
> Those symbolize the vicinity and the close connection to the US prior
> to the revolution.
> 
> Then you see Lada (aka VAZ), Moskvich, Volga (and Kamaz and ZIL
> trucks) - brands from the Soviet Union - covering the "Soviet Block"
> era (1960-80s)
> 
> And then, you see European makes: Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Mercedes (I 
> don't remember, maybe also VW), Korean Kia and Hyundai, and a 
> few Chinese makes: Geely, Emgrand, GAC, as well as Chinese-Australian 
> (SAIC) Maxus and MG. Most of these cars are from post-2008, the era
> when _some_ small private business has been allowed in this highly
> regulated country, and especially post-2014, when Raul Castro, has
> abolished the need for official permission to purchase a foreign-made
> car. They are still much more expensive compared to what you pay for
> them in the US and in Europe.
> Actually, it is MUCH MORE, in capital letters.
> 
> I've heard that some people make a trip to Moscow, which is easy 
> logistically, buy auto-parts, and then resell them in Cuba, - thus 
> covering the cost of the trip and earning money for living.
> 
> 
>   The presence of the cars from China is a sign of the growing
> economic relations with China (presumably, it is the biggest (or the
> 2nd biggest, behind Canada) trade partner for Cuba now).
> 
> The "classic" cars serve too major roles:
> 1) The better preserved/restored ones (most convertible) are used for
> the "fancy" tours around the city, - and you see many of those cars
> parked along the "Central Park" - Parque Central - in the historical
> part of the city "Habana Viejo" (old Havana), - next to the three
> luxury (and very expensive! - $300+ per night at Hotel Parque
> Central) hotels.
> 
> 
> 2) The "regular" cars, often with the crude patches on the body
> (sometimes with large rough bolts, sometimes, - torch-welded), - are
> used as the city transportation. This includes private taxis and
> so-called "collectivos", which stands for "collective taxi". This is
> a type of a taxis that circulate along the well known routes (just a
> handfull) - throughout the city. You can get in and get out along
> those routes, and pay a fixed price (at least for locals, but we've
> also used this): 10 or 20 CUPs, depending on the part of the city
> where you go (about 40 and 80 US cents, respectively).
> These collectivos can get packed: a couple of times, I was riding
> among total of 8 passengers (in a bigger, almost SUV-ish or
> station-vagonish old car with the 3rd row of seats)
> I've seen a few private taxis using old Lada and even Moskvich. (If
> you are not familiar, - those are rather small cars, no larger than
> Dodge Colt or Toyota Tercel from 1980s)
> 
> 
> Also, you can take a collectivo to travel to a different city. In
> that case, I've read, the prices are on par or above the price 
> for the bus (Viazul, - the buses that targeting foreigners, and 
> Astro bus, where there is a large price difference for locals and 
> foreigners). The advantage is that there is a bit more flexibility 
> w.r.t the time, but you are riding in a car that might not have an
> A/C (Viazul bus has), and might break in the middle of the road.
> 
> The curious thing is that quite a few collectivo drivers would
> caution you about not slamming the door, - as the doors and door
> latches are often a fragile point on some of the "classics".
> 
> 
> So, here is a photo gallery that illustrates this story:
> https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/
> 
> Unfortunately, I've failed to take a reasonable photo of a
> "half-taxi" - a moto-scooter with a roof that can take 2-3
> passengers, such as this one:
> https://www.losviajeros.net/fotos/america/Cuba/index.php?fn=coco_taxi
> 
> 
> For me, it was a fun and quite an adventure to ride the collectivos
> and and negotiate the prices with others, - mostly of the "jalopy"
> kind. It was an inexpensive and reasonable way of getting to and from
> a small family-owned B that I've chosen to stay at.
> I've read that prior to 2011, it was forbidden to take foreigners
> into a car that didn't have a special taxi permit, but that rule has
> been relaxed since that.
> 
> I hope you enjoy the photos and the story they tell.
> 
> All comments and 

Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Works for me. Good to hear you’re deep into a creative pursuit!

Paul

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 9:02 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Second Try - Spameatingmonkey got my first one:
> 
> This is me trying to learn new songs & create lyric/chord sheets for them. I 
> don't use the Mac for text work.
> 
> I work them up in Open Office and then export them as PDF files I can attach 
> to emails I share with the people I play with. I'm getting to the point where 
> I can't remember all the lyrics & chord changes, so I need something I can 
> look at to refresh my memory.
> 
> I can print a certain number to pass out to the group and it's been quick & 
> easy to print additional copies if I start to run short.
> 
> Periodically I need to go back to songs I haven't played in a while and open 
> them so I can practice. I like the PDF files because I won't accidentally 
> change them by fat fingering the keyboard while I've got them open and I can 
> display them so they're easily readable.
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/2018 17:42, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> John, I’m guessing this is on your PC rather than on your Mac. The free
>> Preview softwareworks just fine as a PDF reader on Macs.
>> Paul
>>> On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>>> I've been also using FoxIt PDF (both reader, and a PDF writer) on Windows,
>>> albeit not exclusively (I do use Adobe Acrobat in some cases).
>>> But recently (?) FoxIt also started trying to access something that I am
>>> not allowing it to - on a Win-10 box (I forgot what that was).
>>> Cheers,
>>> Igor
>>> Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:45:01 -0700 wrote:
>>> John wrote:
 Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF
>>> file.
 IN FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well
 enough
>>> alone?
>>> I haven't had any use for Adobe Acrobat Reader for years: 
>>> https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-reader/
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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread John

Second Try - Spameatingmonkey got my first one:

This is me trying to learn new songs & create lyric/chord sheets for them. I 
don't use the Mac for text work.


I work them up in Open Office and then export them as PDF files I can attach to 
emails I share with the people I play with. I'm getting to the point where I 
can't remember all the lyrics & chord changes, so I need something I can look at 
to refresh my memory.


I can print a certain number to pass out to the group and it's been quick & easy 
to print additional copies if I start to run short.


Periodically I need to go back to songs I haven't played in a while and open 
them so I can practice. I like the PDF files because I won't accidentally change 
them by fat fingering the keyboard while I've got them open and I can display 
them so they're easily readable.



On 6/14/2018 17:42, Paul Stenquist wrote:

John, I’m guessing this is on your PC rather than on your Mac. The free
Preview softwareworks just fine as a PDF reader on Macs.

Paul


On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



I've been also using FoxIt PDF (both reader, and a PDF writer) on Windows,
albeit not exclusively (I do use Adobe Acrobat in some cases).

But recently (?) FoxIt also started trying to access something that I am
not allowing it to - on a Win-10 box (I forgot what that was).

Cheers,

Igor


Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:45:01 -0700 wrote:

John wrote:


Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF

file.

IN FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well
enough

alone?


I haven't had any use for Adobe Acrobat Reader for years: 
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-reader/





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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread ann sanfedele

I'm guessing it isn't sunny there every often :-)
Redundently (since liked on facebook)  nice shot! fun place!

ann

On 6/14/2018 11:46 AM, mike wilson wrote:

What's that blue thing at the top?  Never seen that there before


On 14 June 2018 at 13:58 Mark Roberts  wrote:


Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg

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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread John

On 6/14/2018 17:46, Bill wrote:

On 6/13/2018 9:38 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 14 June 2018 at 03:26 John  wrote:


Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF file. IN
FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough alone?


There are other options out there. Why don't you try one of them rather than 
whining about how much you dislike Adobe?


Just a thought.



I'm not whining, I'm venting ... while uninstalling "Reader DC" & reinstalling 
the older software that worked the way I wanted it to work. No need for me to 
bottle my frustrations up inside while I'm doing that.


It was a bit of a pain. The answer from Adobe's "help forum" gives you a URL to 
download the previous version, but when you get there, the only version 
available to download is "Reader DC".



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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I haven’t touched Acrobat Reader in a decade or more. Utter waste of time. 
Adobe has been shoveling a whole pile of multimedia horsepucky into PDF for a 
long time; I just ignore all that crap. 

MacOS’ native Preview app reads and writes PDF at a sensible level of 
complexity very well. There are a good number of native and 3rd party apps for 
both macOS and iOS that work with PDFs beyond that too. Those are what I use. 

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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Brian Walters
> On 14 June 2018 at 21:44 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> >Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF file.
> >IN 
> >FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough alone?
> 
> I haven't had any use for Adobe Acrobat Reader for years:
> https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-reader/

Same here, although I hate the most recent incarnations of Foxit - especially
the 'ribbon-style' menu.  Sorely tempted to go back to version 3.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: An amuzing Kickstarter: Instax Square with your Pentax, Nikon, Leica, etc.

2018-06-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Woo Hoo! 

I received a campaign message this morning that the Instant Magny 35 campaign 
has already achieved their funding goal, and they're going ahead with the 
finish development to production. 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ninmlab/instant-magny-35-an-instant-back-for-135-slr-and-r

There are still a few Nikon Kick-Off Deal pledges available, as well as a good 
number of Leica Kick-Off Deal pledges available, so if you were waiting to see 
if they'd reach their funding goal, time to go for it and get the best price! 
Canon, Olympus, and Pentax units are also available.

I love this kind of stuff. :)

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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote:

>Mark, I'm talking about in camera multiple exposures - get the exposure 
>correct and there should be no additional post processing work.

No thanks.
 
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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Bill

On 6/13/2018 9:38 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 14 June 2018 at 03:26 John  wrote:


Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF file. IN
FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough alone?


There are other options out there. Why don't you try one of them rather 
than whining about how much you dislike Adobe?


Just a thought.





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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
John, 
I’m guessing this is on your PC rather than on your Mac. The free Preview 
softwareworks just fine as a PDF reader on Macs.

Paul

> On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I've been also using FoxIt PDF (both reader, and a PDF writer) on Windows, 
> albeit not exclusively (I do use Adobe Acrobat in some cases).
> 
> But recently (?) FoxIt also started trying to access something that I am not 
> allowing it to - on a Win-10 box (I forgot what that was).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:45:01 -0700 wrote:
> 
> John wrote:
> 
>> Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF 
> file.
>> IN
>> FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough 
> alone?
> 
> 
> I haven't had any use for Adobe Acrobat Reader for years:
> https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-reader/
> 
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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Igor PDML-StR




I've been also using FoxIt PDF (both reader, and a PDF writer) on 
Windows, albeit not exclusively (I do use Adobe Acrobat in some cases).


But recently (?) FoxIt also started trying to access something that I am 
not allowing it to - on a Win-10 box (I forgot what that was).


Cheers,

Igor


Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:45:01 -0700 wrote:

John wrote:

Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF 

file.

IN
FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough 

alone?


I haven't had any use for Adobe Acrobat Reader for years:
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-reader/

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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Ken Waller
Mark, I'm talking about in camera multiple exposures - get the exposure correct 
and there should be no additional post processing work.


-Original Message-
>From: Mark Roberts 
>Subject: Re: Cauldron Snout!
>
>Ken Waller wrote:
>
>>You should also consider trying multiple exposures when shooting moving water.
>
>I've tried that and found it introduced too many variables and too
>much post-processing work for my taste.  I prefer to get it in-camera
>whenever possible.
> 
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Fw: GESO: Victims of Vesuvius

2018-06-14 Thread jtainter
Fifth attempt:

Just a caution: Some people might find this GESO disturbing:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61260056

Joe



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Re: GESO - History told by cars - far-far-away nearby county

2018-06-14 Thread Paul Sorenson

That was fun...Most of the cars in your gallery were from my teen-age years.

-p


On 6/14/2018 10:47 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I had a very brief visit to Cuba last year.
One of the things that everybody who visits Cuba realizes is the old 
cars on the streets. I've heard this long before the trip, and saw 
plenty of photos. But the personal impression was much stronger.


If you are not interested in reading the story, - feel free
to skip it: https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/ .


While looking at the cars, I realized that the cars essentially tell 
the geo-political history of that country.


You see many "classic" pre-1959 US models, including Oldsmobile, 
Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Plymouth.

Those symbolize the vicinity and the close connection to the US prior
to the revolution.

Then you see Lada (aka VAZ), Moskvich, Volga (and Kamaz and ZIL 
trucks) - brands from the Soviet Union - covering the "Soviet Block" 
era (1960-80s)


And then, you see European makes: Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Mercedes (I 
don't remember, maybe also VW), Korean Kia and Hyundai, and a few 
Chinese makes: Geely, Emgrand, GAC, as well as Chinese-Australian 
(SAIC) Maxus and MG. Most of these cars are from post-2008, the era 
when _some_ small private business has been allowed in this highly 
regulated country, and especially post-2014, when Raul Castro, has 
abolished the need for official permission to purchase a foreign-made 
car. They are still much more expensive compared to what you pay for 
them in the US and in Europe.

Actually, it is MUCH MORE, in capital letters.

I've heard that some people make a trip to Moscow, which is easy 
logistically, buy auto-parts, and then resell them in Cuba, - thus 
covering the cost of the trip and earning money for living.



 The presence of the cars from China is a sign of the growing economic 
relations with China (presumably, it is the biggest (or the 2nd 
biggest, behind Canada) trade partner for Cuba now).


The "classic" cars serve too major roles:
1) The better preserved/restored ones (most convertible) are used for 
the "fancy" tours around the city, - and you see many of those cars 
parked along the "Central Park" - Parque Central - in the historical 
part of the city "Habana Viejo" (old Havana), - next to the three 
luxury (and very expensive! - $300+ per night at Hotel Parque Central) 
hotels.



2) The "regular" cars, often with the crude patches on the body 
(sometimes with large rough bolts, sometimes, - torch-welded), - are 
used as the city transportation. This includes private taxis and 
so-called "collectivos", which stands for "collective taxi". This is a 
type of a taxis that circulate along the well known routes (just a 
handfull) - throughout the city.

You can get in and get out along those routes, and pay a fixed price
(at least for locals, but we've also used this): 10 or 20 CUPs, 
depending on the part of the city where you go (about 40 and 80 US 
cents, respectively).
These collectivos can get packed: a couple of times, I was riding 
among total of 8 passengers (in a bigger, almost SUV-ish or 
station-vagonish old car with the 3rd row of seats)
I've seen a few private taxis using old Lada and even Moskvich. (If 
you are not familiar, - those are rather small cars, no larger than 
Dodge Colt or Toyota Tercel from 1980s)



Also, you can take a collectivo to travel to a different city. In that 
case, I've read, the prices are on par or above the price for the bus 
(Viazul, - the buses that targeting foreigners, and Astro bus, where 
there is a large price difference for locals and foreigners). The 
advantage is that there is a bit more flexibility w.r.t the time, but 
you are riding in a car that might not have an A/C (Viazul bus has), 
and might break in the middle of the road.


The curious thing is that quite a few collectivo drivers would caution 
you about not slamming the door, - as the doors and door latches are 
often a fragile point on some of the "classics".



So, here is a photo gallery that illustrates this story:
https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/

Unfortunately, I've failed to take a reasonable photo of a "half-taxi" 
- a

moto-scooter with a roof that can take 2-3 passengers, such as this one:
https://www.losviajeros.net/fotos/america/Cuba/index.php?fn=coco_taxi


For me, it was a fun and quite an adventure to ride the collectivos 
and and negotiate the prices with others, - mostly of the "jalopy" kind.

It was an inexpensive and reasonable way of getting to and from a small
family-owned B that I've chosen to stay at.
I've read that prior to 2011, it was forbidden to take foreigners into 
a car that didn't have a special taxi permit, but that rule has been 
relaxed since that.


I hope you enjoy the photos and the story they tell.

All comments and critique are welcome!

Igor


PS. I hadn't been familiar with most of the Chineese auto makes until
just recently.
I just recently found out that GAC has displayed its car 

OT: A photoshop batch task?

2018-06-14 Thread collinb
I've a base template PSD file with 3 layers. File has been duplicated to the
desired target files n advance.
#1 is the background
#2 is text
#3 is text.
I'd like to read info from a text file and loop through created PSD files
and change the layer 2 and layer 3 text to what I read sequentially from the
text file.
Anyone ever do that?

Collin


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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Ken Waller wrote:

>You should also consider trying multiple exposures when shooting moving water.

I've tried that and found it introduced too many variables and too
much post-processing work for my taste.  I prefer to get it in-camera
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Re: PESO (second try): Vatican Museum Exit

2018-06-14 Thread Bob W-PDML
Reminds me of this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_Carte_de_l%27Enfer.jpg

B

On 14 Jun 2018, at 16:12, jtainter 
mailto:jtain...@mindspring.com>> wrote:

My first post on this didn't go through. I often see posts where people ask 
about ultra-wide lenses. The DA 10-17 can very nice results:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61255774

Joe

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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Ken Waller
You should also consider trying multiple exposures when shooting moving water.


-Original Message-
>From: Mark Roberts 
>Subject: Re: Cauldron Snout!
>
>Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
>>Wow!
>>Quite impressive!
>>
>>What was the shutter speed?
>>The reason I am curious is that I've been experimenting (or, probably a 
>>better word: struggling) with water falls, - and I am seldom satisfied 
>>with the results I am getting.
>
>Two seconds.
>
>
>>Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:59:39 -0700 wrote:
>>
>>Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
>>Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.
>>
>>
>>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg
>>
>>Pentax K-1, FA 20mm f/2.8, 4-stop ND filter.
>>
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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Igor PDML-StR wrote:

>Wow!
>Quite impressive!
>
>What was the shutter speed?
>The reason I am curious is that I've been experimenting (or, probably a 
>better word: struggling) with water falls, - and I am seldom satisfied 
>with the results I am getting.

Two seconds.


>Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:59:39 -0700 wrote:
>
>Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
>Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.
>
>
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg
>
>Pentax K-1, FA 20mm f/2.8, 4-stop ND filter.
>
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>www.robertstech.com
 
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Re: PESO (second try): Vatican Museum Exit

2018-06-14 Thread John

On 6/14/2018 11:11, jtainter wrote:

My first post on this didn't go through. I often see posts where people ask
about ultra-wide lenses. The DA 10-17 can very nice results:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61255774

Joe





Nice to see an ultra-wide lens used to make a vertical image.


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Re: Geso On the Street corner

2018-06-14 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Ann, yes pretty much small midwestern town, once a meatpacking
Railroad town. Now more retail medical & services place. Our claim to
fame these days is the gypsum mills here produced most of the drywall
for the Mall of America.

Yes Q has raw setting I usually shoot raw + jpg as the files are quite
small. The whole interface is Pentax through & through.

Don --
Familiar ... the kind of place I've stopped so often in multiroad trips
and knew from my childhood.. Our Town.? I like 4 and 5 the very best of
these.. and equally
The first one the least because of the balance across the page, as it
were..

Does the Q shoot raw?

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GESO - History told by cars - far-far-away nearby county

2018-06-14 Thread Igor PDML-StR




I had a very brief visit to Cuba last year.
One of the things that everybody who visits Cuba realizes is the old cars 
on the streets. I've heard this long before the trip, and saw plenty of 
photos. But the personal impression was much stronger.


If you are not interested in reading the story, - feel free
to skip it: https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/ .


While looking at the cars, I realized that the cars essentially tell the 
geo-political history of that country.


You see many "classic" pre-1959 US models, including Oldsmobile, 
Chevrolet, Buick, Ford, Plymouth.

Those symbolize the vicinity and the close connection to the US prior
to the revolution.

Then you see Lada (aka VAZ), Moskvich, Volga (and Kamaz and ZIL trucks) - 
brands from the Soviet Union - covering the "Soviet Block" era (1960-80s)


And then, you see European makes: Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Mercedes (I 
don't remember, maybe also VW), Korean Kia and Hyundai, and a 
few Chinese makes: Geely, Emgrand, GAC, as well as Chinese-Australian 
(SAIC) Maxus and MG. Most of these cars are from post-2008, the era when 
_some_ small private business has been allowed in this highly regulated 
country, and especially post-2014, when Raul Castro, has abolished the 
need for official permission to purchase a foreign-made car. They are 
still much more expensive compared to what you pay for them in the US and 
in Europe.

Actually, it is MUCH MORE, in capital letters.

I've heard that some people make a trip to Moscow, which is easy 
logistically, buy auto-parts, and then resell them in Cuba, - thus 
covering the cost of the trip and earning money for living.



 The presence of the cars from China is a sign of the growing economic 
relations with China (presumably, it is the biggest (or the 2nd biggest, 
behind Canada) trade partner for Cuba now).


The "classic" cars serve too major roles:
1) The better preserved/restored ones (most convertible) are used for the 
"fancy" tours around the city, - and you see many of those cars parked 
along the "Central Park" - Parque Central - in the historical part of 
the city "Habana Viejo" (old Havana), - next to the three luxury (and 
very expensive! - $300+ per night at Hotel Parque Central) hotels.



2) The "regular" cars, often with the crude patches on the body (sometimes 
with large rough bolts, sometimes, - torch-welded), - are used as the city 
transportation. This includes private taxis and so-called "collectivos", 
which stands for "collective taxi". This is a type of a taxis that circulate 
along the well known routes (just a handfull) - throughout the city.

You can get in and get out along those routes, and pay a fixed price
(at least for locals, but we've also used this): 10 or 20 CUPs, depending 
on the part of the city where you go (about 40 and 80 US cents, 
respectively).
These collectivos can get packed: a couple of times, I was riding among 
total of 8 passengers (in a bigger, almost SUV-ish or station-vagonish 
old car with the 3rd row of seats)
I've seen a few private taxis using old Lada and even Moskvich. (If you 
are not familiar, - those are rather small cars, no larger than Dodge Colt 
or Toyota Tercel from 1980s)



Also, you can take a collectivo to travel to a different city. In that 
case, I've read, the prices are on par or above the price 
for the bus (Viazul, - the buses that targeting foreigners, and 
Astro bus, where there is a large price difference for locals and 
foreigners). The advantage is that there is a bit more flexibility 
w.r.t the time, but you are riding in a car that might not have an A/C 
(Viazul bus has), and might break in the middle of the road.


The curious thing is that quite a few collectivo drivers would caution you 
about not slamming the door, - as the doors and door latches are often a 
fragile point on some of the "classics".



So, here is a photo gallery that illustrates this story:
https://42graphy.org/galleries/2017-havana-cars/

Unfortunately, I've failed to take a reasonable photo of a "half-taxi" - a
moto-scooter with a roof that can take 2-3 passengers, such as this one:
https://www.losviajeros.net/fotos/america/Cuba/index.php?fn=coco_taxi


For me, it was a fun and quite an adventure to ride the collectivos and 
and negotiate the prices with others, - mostly of the "jalopy" kind.

It was an inexpensive and reasonable way of getting to and from a small
family-owned B that I've chosen to stay at.
I've read that prior to 2011, it was forbidden to take foreigners into a 
car that didn't have a special taxi permit, but that rule has been 
relaxed since that.


I hope you enjoy the photos and the story they tell.

All comments and critique are welcome!

Igor


PS. I hadn't been familiar with most of the Chineese auto makes until
just recently.
I just recently found out that GAC has displayed its car in the US, and 
they "have been teasing a move to the US for at least five years":


Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread mike wilson
What's that blue thing at the top?  Never seen that there before

> On 14 June 2018 at 13:58 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
> Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.
> 
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg
> 
> Pentax K-1, FA 20mm f/2.8, 4-stop ND filter.
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Re: Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Wow!
Quite impressive!

What was the shutter speed?
The reason I am curious is that I've been experimenting (or, probably a 
better word: struggling) with water falls, - and I am seldom satisfied 
with the results I am getting.


Cheers,

Igor


Mark Roberts Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:59:39 -0700 wrote:

Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.


http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg

Pentax K-1, FA 20mm f/2.8, 4-stop ND filter.

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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread John

On 6/14/2018 01:26, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:26:43PM -0400, John wrote:

Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF file.
IN FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough
alone?


You don't have to use any of the cloud features - I only use it for viewing
and printing local PDF files.



Don't have to use them, but I've been having to fight my way through them to get 
to my PDF files. Couldn't find any way to shut the unwanted crap off so it would 
just open the file for me to see it.


I have uninstalled it and managed to find a copy of Acrobat Reader XI, which 
while no longer supported, does allow me to open my PDF documents right into 
reading mode.


I don't have to plow through a bunch of unwanted "features" before I can get to 
my document.



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PESO (second try): Vatican Museum Exit

2018-06-14 Thread jtainter
My first post on this didn't go through. I often see posts where people ask 
about ultra-wide lenses. The DA 10-17 can very nice results:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61255774

Joe



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Cauldron Snout!

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Best name ever for a waterfall! Cauldron Snout.
Taken in Cumbria on our Pennine Way walk a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e202706.jpg

Pentax K-1, FA 20mm f/2.8, 4-stop ND filter.
 
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Re: Gettin' real tired of Adobe's SHIT!

2018-06-14 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote:

>Acrobat Reader DC is crap. I don't need no F** cloud to read a PDF file. 
>IN 
>FACT, it is counter-productive! Why can't the idiots leave well enough alone?

I haven't had any use for Adobe Acrobat Reader for years:
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Re: PESO A Grackle in Flight

2018-06-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice capture, but I dislike grackles.


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> https://www.photo.net/photo/18478403/Grackle-in-Flight
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Re: Peso

2018-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
Pleased to find you consider this
the best of the three. It was the
most difficult to process due to
odd lighting.
Thanks, Ann!
J

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> On Jun 13, 2018, at 7:09 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
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> I think I like this the best of the three ... I love tolisten to the song as 
> well...
> 
> ann
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>> On 6/13/2018 11:34 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Yes..another Meadowlark.SIGH!!
>> 
>> Yesterday at a refuge.
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>> Wish I had sound. Love their song!
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>> C?
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>> J
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>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18478378
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