RE: [personal] Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long

2005-05-03 Thread David Chang-Sang


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:02 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who
 care) long
 
snip
 Sent for the 3rd time...
/snip

Seen it all three times here. :-)

Dave 



Re: PESO: That Dead Media

2005-04-26 Thread David Chang-Sang
awww.. thanks Frank :)

I appreciate the compliment :)
This couple wanted nothing but digital but I couldn't help but sneak a few
film shots in - they trusted my judgement :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:12 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: PESO: That Dead Media


 On 4/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/042505/crop035.jpg
 
  No real title to this - the subject line of the thread was just
 to let you
  know this is not a digital capture :D
 
  From a wedding last weekend.
  Tmax 3200 @ 1600
 
  I still like film :)
  I also like digital :)
 
  Why can't we all just get along ;)
 

 That's a hell of a shot, Dave.

 Maybe it's just because it's a wedding shot, but it makes me think of
 TV's stuff (that's a high compliment, BTW g).

 Just lovely.

 cheers,
 frank

 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson







RE: [pdml] unsubscribe

2005-04-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Bye Jim!!
Have fun!!
Don't forget to write !!
Often !!

Ta ta!!

Bienvenido!!

Hope you unsubscribed well!! 

See you!!



 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Colwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:53 PM
 To: pdml
 Subject: [pdml] unsubscribe
 
 
 ciao
 
 
 
 



Re: IR with *istDS

2005-04-16 Thread David Chang-Sang
I've read that the Hoya R72 is still the filter of choice for digital IR but
of course this all depends on the camera and such.

I will be picking up one today I think (67mm) as long as I can get a step
down ring for my lenses :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:51 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] Re: IR with *istDS



 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Cassino Subject: Re: IR with *istDS


  I've done a little IR with the *ist-D and a Hoya RM 90 (Wratten 87B
  equivalent, I believe.)  Maybe this filter just blocks too much
 light, but
  you need long exposures even at high ISO and bright light.
 

 I did some IR with my old Canon G1.
 It worked really well.
 Were I interested in doing IR, I'd be looking for one of these cameras.

 William Robb








RE:OT: Anybody know what this is?

2005-04-16 Thread David Chang-Sang
Looks like an old rangefinder lens - one of those old school lenses that
have the shutter in the lens itself.

That's my guess - what do I win if I'm correct? :-)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:09 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] OT: Anybody know what this is?


 I found this when going through some old stuff that my parents didn´t
 want to keep.

 http://www.foto.no/diskusjon/images/154698.jpg

 DagT







RE: Cross process effect in Photoshop...

2005-04-13 Thread David Chang-Sang
This action is actually pretty good as well:
http://www.shanzcan.com/photoshop/Shanz_XP_2002.atn

The entire site is decent but that Cross Process action produces something
very close to the real thing imho.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:22 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] RE: Cross process effect in Photoshop...


 Do a google search and you'll turn up a lot of options.

 http://www.photocountry.photoshot.com/Tutorials/tutorial3.html

 is one example

 Shel


  [Original Message]
  From: Albano Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Date: 4/13/2005 2:10:00 PM
  Subject: Cross process effect in Photoshop...
 
 
  Hi gang,
  I know there's a website explaining the procedure (to
  make digital pics to look like cross processed E6
  pics), but can't find it. Someone has the link?
  Regards and thanks in advance
 
 
  Albano Garcia
  Photography  Graphic Design
  http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
  http://www.flaneur.com.ar
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: OT:TOPDML assistance

2005-04-05 Thread David Chang-Sang
Ok..

I called into Downtown camera - no go :(
They don't have the BW disposables.

BUT

My happy go lucky assistant Rebecca was pleased to mention that you could
just shoot the colour film and then PRINT in BW via the lab :)  I've done
this and the results, while not equal to true BW film, aren't half bad.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:59 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] OT:TOPDML assistance


   Sorry for doing this on the lsit,but canowmail is down
 for abit and thats were
 all my address'a
 are.

 A co worker is looking for one of those single use
 BW(C-41)cameras for a birthday
 present. She
 found on the Ritz site,(a Kodak model)but we cannot seems to find
 a place here on TO thast
 has them.I
 found one on the Konica site,so they make one to,but no sales info.

 Anyone know of a place. Her birthday is Wednesday, and i said i'd
 try and fine out
 something for her.

 Thanks in advance

 Dave

 BTW Aaron has the istD and Sigma 300 now. His April Bluejays
 pictures will be on the
 internet site
 after the game on April 9, 2005.(Battersbox dot com i think it
 is,but i'll find out)
 Now he can fit in better,being he was the only MF shooter the
 last 2 years.LOL

 Dave (again)









RE: [unclassified] Re: OT:TOPDML assistance

2005-04-04 Thread David Chang-Sang
Dave, 

I'm almost positive I've seen some at Downtown Camera.
I'll have to check with the folks there tomorrow.

Cheers
Dave

 On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:59:13 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for doing this on the lsit,but canowmail is 
 down for abit and thats were
  all my address'a
  are.
  
  A co worker is looking for one of those single use 
 BW(C-41)cameras for a birthday
  present. She
  found on the Ritz site,(a Kodak model)but we cannot seems to 
 find a place here on TO thast
  has them.I
  found one on the Konica site,so they make one to,but no sales info.
  
  Anyone know of a place. Her birthday is Wednesday, and i said 
 i'd try and fine out
  something for her.
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  Dave
  
  BTW Aaron has the istD and Sigma 300 now. His April Bluejays 
 pictures will be on the
  internet site
  after the game on April 9, 2005.(Battersbox dot com i think it 
 is,but i'll find out)
  Now he can fit in better,being he was the only MF shooter the 
 last 2 years.LOL
  
  Dave (again)
  
  



RE: Limiteds Question :) - THANKS GUYS AND GIRLS!!! :D

2005-04-01 Thread David Chang-Sang
I think this just about seals it.

After having seen Wendy's, Jens', David's, Tom's and the links provided by
Amita, I've decided to snag one or two of these lenses.

I can see myself using the 77mm for portraiture and perhaps the 43mm as a
walk around standard.
The Wide Angle Boy in me yearns for the 31mm but I may want something
wider and knowing that there is no limited wider than 31mm, I may just get
disappointed.

You'll have to remember that I will not be using these on an autofocus
body - it'll be strictly manual focus on my old K1000 (which I'm more than
happy to continue using as such) :) - so now you can all call me crazy for
doing such a thing :-)

Now to try to figure out where/when to buy :)

Cheers and thank you,
Dave







RE: [personal] RE: Limiteds Question :) - THANKS GUYS AND GIRLS!!! :D

2005-04-01 Thread David Chang-Sang
It could just be a stepping stone for me too Don :-)
After all.. if I have an Autofocus lens; at some point in the future I may
yearn for an autofocus digital Pentax body :D

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:34 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] RE: Limiteds Question :) - THANKS GUYS AND GIRLS!!!
 :D


 I'd call you crazy for doing such a thing...except:
 I spent the day with a nice 19mm mounted on a P3n laying
 next to me on the car seat.
 Exposed 108 frames, 'twas lotsa fun too! ;-)

 Don

  -Original Message-
  From: David Chang-Sang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:29 PM
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: RE: Limiteds Question :) - THANKS GUYS AND GIRLS!!! :D
 
 
  I think this just about seals it.
 
  After having seen Wendy's, Jens', David's, Tom's and the links
 provided by
  Amita, I've decided to snag one or two of these lenses.
 
  I can see myself using the 77mm for portraiture and perhaps the
 43mm as a
  walk around standard.
  The Wide Angle Boy in me yearns for the 31mm but I may want something
  wider and knowing that there is no limited wider than 31mm, I
 may just get
  disappointed.
 
  You'll have to remember that I will not be using these on an autofocus
  body - it'll be strictly manual focus on my old K1000 (which
 I'm more than
  happy to continue using as such) :) - so now you can all call
 me crazy for
  doing such a thing :-)
 
  Now to try to figure out where/when to buy :)
 
  Cheers and thank you,
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 







Re: Limiteds Question :)

2005-04-01 Thread David Chang-Sang
Are they on the Endangered Species List? :)

Curious
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:58 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] Re: Limiteds Question :)
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark Roberts 
 Subject: Re: Limiteds Question :)
 
 
 
 
 77mm wide open
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/28821195
  
  Oh great. Now I want the 77mm, too!
 
 Get it quick, before they're all gone.
 Yer friend
  
  I have to get the 31 first...
 
 Get both.
 Soon.
 Before it's too late.
 
 William Robb
 
 
 



Limiteds Question :)

2005-03-31 Thread David Chang-Sang
You guys and girls can slay me after you post the links to photos ok? :D

I know this has been asked before; but since I do not yet have a limited
lens, and I seem to have money to burn, can I see some examples of limited
shots that are wide open from these lenses?

I'm more apt to want the 43mm and 31mm wide open shots but if you've got
77mm f1.8 shots as well I'd appreciate it.

Ok... let the mudslinging begin..

cheers
Dave :)




Re: Limiteds Question :)

2005-03-31 Thread David Chang-Sang
WOW!!!

The wide open shot I figure is hard.. thanks for including the f4 shot..
that is wicked!!
I had the 77 on my long list but after these two it may creep into the
short list!!!

Thanks again!

cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:28 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: Limiteds Question :)


 G'day Dave,

 This is the only shot I have up from my 77 that was shot wide open:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_1.htm

 This one is from the 77 @ f4 and cropped:

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_003.htm

 I have some from the 31 at home, but I can't get at them right now :-)

 Dave S


 On Apr 1, 2005 11:35 AM, David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You guys and girls can slay me after you post the links to photos ok? :D
 
  I know this has been asked before; but since I do not yet have a limited
  lens, and I seem to have money to burn, can I see some examples
 of limited
  shots that are wide open from these lenses?
 
  I'm more apt to want the 43mm and 31mm wide open shots but if you've got
  77mm f1.8 shots as well I'd appreciate it.
 
  Ok... let the mudslinging begin..
 
  cheers
  Dave :)
 
 







RE: [pdml] Re: OT: PDML Member Sighting in Toronto

2005-03-21 Thread David Chang-Sang
Why is it that it's only FRANK that gets sightings in Toronto..
I NEVER see anyone (other than Frank... so I guess that counts.. or sort
of..) ;) when I'm out and about.

Sheesh...
Frustrated TO PDML member,
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:34 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: OT: PDML Member Sighting in Toronto


 On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:21:39 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  LOL, Actually, your right.vbg
 
  Funny, this was day 3 of doing TTC topographic work, and i said
 silently to myself this
  morning,i
  bet i see Frank soon.
 
  And today was the day. :-)
 
  We'll be there all day tomorrow as well.
 

 Actually, that's good to know, Dave.  Today was busy, because a bunch
 of our bikers didn't show up, so I didn't have a chance to stop to say
 hi.  But, I'm hoping tomorrow will be slower, and if I have a chance,
 I want to stop at Kominek's to get my LX.  As you likely know,
 Kominek's is right around the corner from where you are.  So, if I get
 to Kominek's, I'll definitely stop and say hi and chat for a few.

 g

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson







RE: [personal] Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop should I visit?

2005-03-16 Thread David Chang-Sang
BH and Adorama are the two shops I visit when I'm in NYC.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/map_r2_c2.gif is the map for locating BH
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=contactus (no map for Adorama but
their information is on that page)

Adorama and BH are more midtown locations. Please NOTE that their hours
of operation change DRASTICALLY on Friday afternoons/Saturday days due to
the Jewish Sabbath.

Some folks like 17th St. Photo but I've never been there.
http://www.17photo.com/

17th St. Photo is also considered midtown

All three are on the island of Manhattan.

If you're buying your equipment in the store in person then you will be
paying local taxes 8.625% - if you calculate that into your equipment
purchases you'll often find out that it still is a lot cheaper than buying
at home :)

Have fun and grab gear!!

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:11 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] Visiting New York city in June - which camera shop
 should I visit?


 Hi all,

 I am taking my wife to Ney Work city for a birthday weekend in
 June and it seems a good opportunity to buy some additional odds
 and ends for my Pentax *ist D. I could do with some prime lenses
 and a battery grip. I am also thinking of something to bounce a
 little light off. (I am a bit new at this.)

 Generally USA prices are a lot lower than UK prices so it is
 worth me stocking up a bit.

 By the way, as I shall travelling out of the country, will I be
 excused the local sales tax? Perhaps only certain shops?

 TIA,

 Stuart

 --
 Stuart  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







RE: [pdml] OT: Perhaps There Is A God After All

2005-03-15 Thread David Chang-Sang
Congrats Frank!! :)

Looks like the Knarf Quiz should have had f) hunting for better airfares
and refunds online :D

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:27 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: [pdml] OT: Perhaps There Is A God After All


 Okay, I don't really think He has anything to do with this, but I'll
 tell you anyway.

 Some of you may have read my whinings the other day about me losing my
 airline tickets when the airline, Jetsgo, went belly up.

 Turns out that I was able to get a refund from Visa (bless their
 hearts).  Despite everyone saying that airfares are about to rise at
 least 40% in the next few days, I managed to book a flight to Halifax
 (to visit my mom, sis and eldest daughter) on the second weekend in
 April.  The tix were actually $3 cheaper than Jetsgo, this time by Air
 Canada, who probably won't go bankrupt on me.

 Not Easter weekend, but still, I'm happy.  Actually, this is good,
 because I can spend Easter with my two younger kids, then two weeks
 later visit my eldest.  I think it's better this way.

 I just thought I'd share...

 g

 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson







RE: Shopping for FA 31 LTD

2005-03-08 Thread David Chang-Sang
BH was the only place I was considering buying mine from.. and I don't even
own an AF Pentax cam!! :D

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:25 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Shopping for FA 31 LTD


 Does anyone know of a good, low-ball price source for the FA 31/1.8 LTD
 lens?

 I've found it for $859 and $879 at Samy's and BH.

 Tom C.








RE: [pdml] Re: Shopping for FA 31 LTD

2005-03-08 Thread David Chang-Sang
pull it out..

You're talking about the Ferrari right?

:)
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:19 PM
 To: Pentax Discuss
 Subject: [pdml] Re: Shopping for FA 31 LTD
 
 
 
 Silly man.
 We could have taken the Ferrari for a drive if you had reminded me 
 to pull it out.
 
 William Robb 
 
 
 
 



RE: [pdml] OT - Another one bites the dust

2005-03-03 Thread David Chang-Sang
Oh man!!!

There goes one of the great camera makers.
Having owned a G2 and T2 I can say that for the money, the cameras were
outstanding in build quality. The lenses were, needless to say, incredible.

But one could sort of see this coming - Leica will be next I think; seeing
as how they are currently in financial difficulty.
Contax gear will be missed.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Anthony Farr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 7:18 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] OT - Another one bites the dust


 The digital revolution takes another scalp:

 http://db.riskwaters.com/public/showPage.html?page=210204

 regards,
 Anthony Farr








RE: [personal] Re: LX Repair Update

2005-02-28 Thread David Chang-Sang
If Kominek's can't repair the LX I think Frank would be hard pressed to find
someone else within Canada who could. Their service, from my experience, is
top notch and if it's the same Pentax guy that I'm thinking of, he'll scour
for spare parts etc. in order to fix a working body.

I hope it gets fixed for you Frank :)

Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:20 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] Re: LX Repair Update


 --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The customs procedures for repatriating Japanese cameras are, from
  what I have heard, even more restrictive than taking California
  oranges from Saskatchewan into Montana.
  PCI in Toronto did a competent, albeit slow, repair on my LX's a few
  years ago.

 Not really, just request them to state clearly the camera was
 returned from repair
 and everything will be fine. According to the online quote, LX
 repair is about 18270
 yen, adding CA$20 Canada Post Small Package + 2400 yen return
 shipping (EMS), and
 C$35 bank transfer, the whole thing will cost C$300. Whether it
 is a good deal
 depends on whether you can find someone to fix it properly in
 your area. Here in the
 west cost the major depots suck so it is the best option to me,
 though I don't have
 the LX anymore.

 =
 Alan Chan
 http://www.pbase.com/wlachan




Back From An Extended Absence With A QUestion :)

2005-02-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
A

So my weekend turned into a month away.. that's what happens when you go to
New York and then find out while your there that a close friend has passed
away and then your parents are vacationing in Nicaragua so you have to tend
to your 91 year old Grandfather... but I digress.. I'm back.. and I have a
question regarding a K-mount manual focus lens.

I spotted a 20mm F4 SMC Pentax (no M designation) around town and I was
curious how it compares to the Pentax-M version - are they the same?
(virtually)?  Boz's site lists it as 10 elements in 12 groups vs the 8 and 8
that is the Pentax-M - it's heavier than the M and longer too but how does
it compare optically?

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Dave




RE: [pdml] RE: fire at the BH warehouse

2005-02-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
According to some sources this was not a fire directly AT the BH warehouse
but it happened to be a warehouse beside/behind it (apparently).

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_022405_brooklynnavyyardfire.html is
the link to the fire story

http://a.abclocal.go.com/images/wabc/2005/wabc_022405_fire1.jpg is the link
to the photo showing the fire and BH's signage

cheers,
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:37 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] RE: fire at the BH warehouse


 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  They seem to be taking orders as normal. I wouldn't be surprised if the
  warehouse in Brooklyn held only a small percentage of their stock.
 
  I received my FA 50/1.4 from them just a few days ago. They're
 my favorite
  place to shop new, so I hope the fire hasn't hurt them badly.


 My new lens is the FA 28mm f/2.8 which I intend to be my normal
 lens for the
 *ist D. After seven months of owning that camera, I've finally
 bought a lens
 specifically for it.

 ERNR







Unsubbing for the weekend :)

2005-02-09 Thread David Chang-Sang
You guys are SO active that I need to UnSub for the weekend whilst away in
New York City :)

BH ... here I come :D

Play nice,
Dave




RE: [pdml] Re: OT:If Costco has it on sale it's really dead: was [Film is dead]

2005-02-08 Thread David Chang-Sang
I wouldn't put a nail in film's coffin.. but that particular scanner needs
to be put 6ft under from all the reviews I've seen ..

Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 7:39 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: OT:If Costco has it on sale it's really dead: was
 [Film is dead]


 Nuff said...

 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

  But Costco is running a special on film  and slide scanners:
 
 
 http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10039838whse=to
 pnav=cat=s=1





RE: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies

2005-02-05 Thread David Chang-Sang
This has been discussed (at least with me) by Aaron (former list member and
one of the original brotherhood members) :D and if there is more than one
person stating this, it may be some sort of confirmation of this being more
than just a rumour.  Aaron had asked me if I had seen or heard about this
rumour on the list but I had seen diddly - apparently though, it appears its
not just one person up here in Canada who has heard this but also your local
camera shop owner down in the states.

Just my 2 cents (which is not worth 2 cents really.. more like.. 0.5 cents)
:)
Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael T. Foulkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:43 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Discontinuement of Film SLR bodies


 I was down at the local camera shop the other day and the owner told me
 that Pentax was planning on discontinuing all of their film based
 SLR's.  She said the information came not from her sales rep but from
 another shop owner who is apparently more plugged in to what's going
 on.  Anyone else heard about this?

 I'm new to the list, but I did check the archives and couldn't find
 anything.








RE: [pdml] PESO: Fisheye Contacts

2005-02-02 Thread David Chang-Sang
I told ya the fisheye is fun :)

I literally walked with mine for a full day firing off frame after frame
after frame.. the view of the world is just so different behind that type of
lens :)

I like the streetcar shot myself too.. hurry up and get it scanned :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 8:02 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: [pdml] PESO: Fisheye Contacts


 From my first roll with the Zenitar 2.8 16mm fisheye:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3087932size=lg

 They're scanned from the contact sheet, so of course they're blurry -
 even moreso than usual for me g.

 What a fun lens!

 Of course, there are the requisite, cliche skyscrapers looming over
 the photographer shots, but hey, it's a new lens, so I have to do the
 cliches, right?

 Actually, I think the girl stepping on the streetcar is pretty cool.

 And, FWIW,  the two middle shots of the black buildings, that look
 like a whole bunch of Seagram Buildings all together are the
 Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by Mr. Black Skyscaper himself,
 Ludwig Meis van der Rohe.  The image on the farthest left, the bottom
 building is Commerce Court West, designed by I. M. Pei, the designer
 of the twin towers of the original World Trade Center in New York.
 Commerce Court is designed using the same semi-monocoque
 stress-bearing skin as the WTC twin towers, so I hope no one hits it
 with an airplane full of fuel (I'm not being humourous or
 disrespectful, I really mean it).

 Anyway, enough architecture lessons for the day.  You may comment on
 these blurry contacts if you want g.

 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson








NOW: Collecting Cameras WAS: Death Of An MX

2005-01-30 Thread David Chang-Sang
I had given some thought to this.. and what with the impending death of
film *snort*.. I thought it woudl be neat to collect some film cameras
that I have used or enjoyed using in the past and displaying them as
suggested many times over on the list.. in a cabinet.

I have, currently, what I consider to be 4 classic cameras that can all
still be used with film. My Canonet QL 17 GIII, Olympus XA, Contax T2, and
the K1000 - all in relatively good condition and quite useable.

I was wondering if anyone else has thought of this or done it and if so..
what have you got waiting to be, or being, displayed at your place?

Curious as always,
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:47 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: Death of a MX
snip

 If worse comes to worse, your black MX will look quite lovely on a
 shelf or in a glass cabinet.

 cheers,
 frank
/snip
 --




PAW: Left Of Here

2005-01-30 Thread David Chang-Sang
http://www.chang-sang.com/PAW/

A bit late this week but meh.. better late than never :)
The name of the band was Left Of Here.. hence the name of the image.

Cheers
Dave 



RE: [pdml] Re: Film Still Best for Many Applications? (was Ruminations... )

2005-01-30 Thread David Chang-Sang
File Transfer Protocol
The way that TV transfer's his files to the bureau.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:51 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: Film Still Best for Many Applications? (was
 Ruminations... )
snip
 What's FTP?
 
 -frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
 
 



RE: [pdml] Spotted on another group ...

2005-01-29 Thread David Chang-Sang
This could make things very interesting in the pro arena if it's priced
right :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:33 AM
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: [pdml] Spotted on another group ...



 From the folks who monitor UPC registrations:

http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.pl?upc=027075076662


Pentax *ist DLX Pro 12MP dSLR

 Hmmm...








RE: Ruminations...

2005-01-27 Thread David Chang-Sang
I think my initial reply went to the same place Wendy's initial post went to
:)

CHeers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 3:33 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] RE: Ruminations...


 hmm..

 Dump the 10D
 Dump the MZ-S (I believe someone on the list is looking for one)

 Reasons for this?
 You may already know how much better (imho) the 20D performs over the 10D
 with respect to exposure (especially with flash). The 10D, while
 no slouch,
 is pointless to hang onto if you have the 20D - if you want a back up film
 body at some point, Elan 7's are going for a song just about every used
 place you look.

 The MZ-S is a film body that I know very little about - but based on what
 you've said with respect to the crop factor and your lens selection - it
 sounds like it won't hurt you to miss this camera either. To
 reiterate what
 one Camera Store Manager asked of my friend a couple weeks ago when my
 friend was inquiring as to whether to get film or digital SLR: Depends,
 are you going to be like 90% of my customers or 10% of my customers? Film
 will cost you more and unless you're shooting just BW, get the digital.

 Cheers
 Dave






RE: [pdml] 31 Limited

2005-01-26 Thread David Chang-Sang
This reminds me..

I promised myself to get a complete kit for the K1000 and even though the
limiteds are AF, I've heard that they can do just fine as manual focus
lenses.

Anyone else have experience with them as strictly manual focus lenses?

Curious
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:40 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] 31 Limited


 The 31mm Limited I ordered arrived today ... I'm impressed! Very
 pretty, nicely made and finished. The viewfinder is crisp and
 clear, snaps in and out of focus, both manual and auto, with
 precision. It's a bit on the heavy side, but seems like it will
 be a real treat to shoot with, a nice complement to the
 A-50/1.4.

 Can't wait to get some real pictures going with it. My quick
 test shots look wonderful!

 Godfrey



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 Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
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RE: [pdml] 31 Limited

2005-01-26 Thread David Chang-Sang
Well.. after all that.. I think that would seal it for me.
I'm saving my sheckles and the next trip down to NYC.. I'm going to snag
either the 31 or the 43 (depending which one is in stock) - ideally the 31mm
would be the one I'd want.. I don't think I'd ever remove it from the K1000
:D

Cheers and thanks for the info guys,
Dave




OT: Impromptu TOPDML Meetings and The Benefits/Drawbacks Of Chimping

2005-01-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
Whilst on my way to drop off some BW film from last weekend to a local lab
I ran into young Frank during his day-to-day activities.

We both didn't recognize each other at first due to the winter garb that
must be donned during these cold grey months; however we soon exchanged
how-do-you-dos and began discussing the benefits or drawbacks of chimping.

It was nice to hear Frank say Really, it's Cotty who chimps the most on the
PDML. I've seen him do it at GFM!! ;)

After a good guffaw, we parted ways and we each went about our daily
business. Maybe next time Dave Brooks and Jeff can be present with Brandon
flying in from where ever he is hiding these days... ;)

Smirkingly yours,
Dave




RE: [pdml] Re: Chimping????

2005-01-24 Thread David Chang-Sang
Ok.. Now I get it..
Still don't know if it's that big a deal but at least I understand the term
:)

Cheers
Dave






RE: [pdml] Re: Chimping????

2005-01-24 Thread David Chang-Sang
Portraits and Weddings.
The occaisional still life.
No sports

So.. do I chimp during a wedding? Nope. No time to.
Do I chimp during a portrait shoot - sometimes.
Do I chimp at a still life? Sure.. why not.. it's not going anywhere. :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 8:48 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: [pdml] Re: Chimping
 
 
 David Chang-Sang mused:
  
  Ok.. Now I get it..
  Still don't know if it's that big a deal but at least I 
 understand the term
  :)
 
 As Doug points out, sometimes it's a very big deal indeed.
 There are times when the last thing you should be paying
 attention to is a photograph that you've already taken.
 
 And in any case, any time you're looking at the review screen
 you're not looking through the viewfinder, so you could miss a
 shot.  Just how big a deal that is depends on what you shoot.
 
 
 
 



PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/  

The old beat up recliner was either being aired out or thrown away.
I do believe the latter rather than the former :)

Cheers
Dave




RE: [pdml] OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Today's screaming for chrome film that will be cross processed :)
The colour in the sky and such should make for an interesting mix.

I may venture out a bit later and snap off some in the downtown area.
I think the camera of choice will be the Olympus XA :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:45 AM
 To: PDML
 Subject: [pdml] OT: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow
 
 
 We had what the weather forecasters now call a snow event yesterday
 here in Toronto.  I think the same storm also hit much of the MIdwest
 and Northeast US, so Paul, Ken and any other Michiganders (haven't
 seen Mark Cassino much lately, have we?) must have got hit, too.
 
 They were calling for over 12 inches, but this morning they said we
 only got around 7 - looking out the window, it sure looks like close
 to 10 or 12.  Winds were high (40 km per hour - it wasn't a
 blizzard, which needs 50 km/h winds) and lowish temps (-17 C, with
 wind chill in the -30's) made for a fun day.
 
 I mean, literally, a fun day.
 
 I bought a Metro Pass, which allows me all day access to Toronto's
 excellent transit system, and took the street car and subway all
 around town, whilst luckless drivers slid their way about.  Of course,
 a camera was mandatory in such conditions, and I got lots of cliche
 people trying to walk along, hands holding their collars to their
 face while the wind tugs at their coats, snow whipping by them shots.
  Hopefully, some of them will turn out.  Most people walking by were
 so busy trying to negotiate the wind and snow they didn't even notice
 my camera.
 
 Today's beautiful and sunny.  Should be lots more photo ops out there.  
 
 Anyone else out there shooting in the snow this weekend?
 
 cheers,
 frank
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
 
 



RE: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Thanks Frank :)

It was across the street from The Canary Restaurant down there by Front and
Cherry.
I was running a test roll through the K1000 and I too thought it was an
interesting still life.

Thanks for the comment :)

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:50 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy


 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:26:01 -0500, David Chang-Sang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/
 
  The old beat up recliner was either being aired out or thrown away.
  I do believe the latter rather than the former :)
 
  Cheers
  Dave

 Fraser finally got his way and bought Martin a new easy chair?  vbg

 Seriously, I like this photo, Dave.  It may sound sily, but there's a
 certain poignancy to it.  I especially like the inclusion of the oil
 drum in the background.  I also like the way the poor chair is tilted;
  after years of good service, it can no longer fulfill it's purpose as
 a chair.

 I like your choice of a smallish aperture for a sharp background.
 The stark, shabby background adds much to the shot, IMHO.

 BW is the perfect medium for this shot.

 Judging by the lack of white-stuff on the ground, it wasn't shot
 yesterday!  vbg

 Nice capture.

 cheers,
 frank


 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson








RE: [pdml] PAW x2 - Tekapo and Moon

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Whoa...

The E100 series of film can be quite decent but you're probably right with
resepct to the SW rather than say, perhaps, the VS.

Still... that shot of the moon is incredible and I can instantly see that
print matted and framed.

Great landscapes, both of them, but I'm thinking the Moon is a winner imho.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:29 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] PAW x2 - Tekapo and Moon


 Hi all,

 It's been far too long since I last did a PAW.  Since I've done a
 little scanning lately here are a couple of panoramas.

 First of all, a view of Lake Tekapo.  I know there needs to be more of
 the lake at left, but I wanted to keep the fog in the frame.

 The colours may look a little bit wonky.  E100SW really wasn't the best
 choice of film.
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=22-Jan-2005

 And the other pic is of the moon.
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=23-Jan-2005

 I've printed both of these on 210mm roll paper and they look pretty
 nice.  I want to do the moon one even bigger, once I get the roll
 cutter attachment for my printer (I can cut 210mm manually but I'd
 rather not risk mishandling the big stuff).

 Cheers,

 - Dave

 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/








RE: [pdml] The Canary - WAS: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy

2005-01-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
I've never been in.. I've tried a number of times to photograph it.. and I
finally got images that will make a decent triptych. All were cropped down
to 5x5 and then run through the Holga Filter and Sepia in photoshop.  It
only seemed like the right thing to do for the age, and state, of that
restaurant.

http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop038_holga.jpg
http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop040_holga.jpg
http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop041_holga.jpg

In that order.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:24 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: [pdml] Re: PAW: Lay-Z-Boy


 On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:19:00 -0500, David Chang-Sang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Frank :)
 
  It was across the street from The Canary Restaurant down there
 by Front and
  Cherry.
  I was running a test roll through the K1000 and I too thought it was an
  interesting still life.
 
  Thanks for the comment :)
 
 

 I know exactly the corner you refer to.  I still don't have a shot of
 the Canary that I'm happy with, but maybe one day, before they tear it
 down, I'll get it.  They just don't make neon signs like that anymore.
  g

 The Canary is one of the restaurants of Toronto that I haven't been
 into, and perhaps never will...

 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson








RE: [pdml] PESO: Mom at 90

2005-01-20 Thread David Chang-Sang
Great great photo imho.
Evokes a lot of strength and emotion.

Can't wait to see the rest.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:17 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] PESO: Mom at 90
 
  Mom at 90
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/Mom1.htm
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 
 
 
 



OT: Film Prices - Oy... expensive

2005-01-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
I don't know if this has been brought up recently but if it has... I
apologize

Well,
Maybe I haven't been paying that much attention to it but as of today my
local camera store raised their Ilford prices.
Fuji and Agfa are next (apparently) to jack theirs up by March 1.

An example of the increased price?
HP5+ 36 exp
- was: $4.99 CDN/roll
- now: $5.89 CDN/roll
That's an 18% increase.

Apparently some of the Ilford increases are upwards of 150% (this was
according to the front counter film staff at the local shop - so I'm taking
that large of an increase with a grain of salt for now).

Maybe it's just me and since I haven't been shooting film that often but
that increase alone is pricey considering I would still have to factor in
processing costs (whether done at home or at a lab) and any printing that I
may want done.

What makes it hurt that much more is I still think that BW film is superior
to the digital conversion of color jpegs or RAW images. This is just my
opinion mind you and, as always, YMMV.

I really think, even with all the bells and whistles and instant
gratification that digital brings, I will still be buying film for a long
time yet.

Cheers
Dave





RE: [pdml] Re: Ilford update

2005-01-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
Mark,

I know my store still carries it.
Even 4x5 sheet.
I'll check in on it tomorrow or Friday when I go to pick up some prints.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:22 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: Ilford update
 
 
 John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm still able to buy Ilford in the UK, it looks as if 
 production of certain 
 products is continuing for the near future at least. Hope this helps.
 
 Any hint of what those certain products might be? I haven't heard a
 peep in any news medium about what's going on. I shoot black  white in
 medium format so I'd be seriously dismayed if their 120 product became
 unavailable. BH still shows Ilford films in 120 but I don't know if any
 is still being made or imported. I'll keep Googling. :)
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 



RE: [pdml] Digital Holga

2005-01-17 Thread David Chang-Sang
Digital Holga is a lot of fun and always enjoyable but sometimes the effect
can be overdone; not yours mind you but if you do it to every single pic it
gets a bit tiresome :)

http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop040_holga.jpg
That's a link to a shot in which I used the photoshop  Holga action.  I
can't, for the life of me, remember where I got the action from - I thought
Adobe had it on their website for download but I can't seem to find it now.

Anyway.. yes.. digital holga is fun...but it does take some of the
spontenaity out of the whole Holga experience because every shot can be in
focus and all good before applying the effect :)

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:29 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Digital Holga


 I processed yesterday's dog pic to make it look like it was taken
 with a Holga:

 http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0169.html

 I think it's an interesting look. I'm going to try to get something
 like this on camera, maybe using a busted M40/1.4 I have laying
 around...

 j

 --
 Juan Buhler
 http://www.jbuhler.com
 blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog








RE: [pdml] Digital Holga

2005-01-17 Thread David Chang-Sang
Sounds fair..

http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/actions/holga_simulator.atn

Feel free to d/l
It's by a guy named Alberto Campione

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:29 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: [pdml] Digital Holga
 
 
 Why don't you post the action so those who are interested can download it
 and see how it works?
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  http://www.chang-sang.com/photo/lj/users/nexus/060105/crop040_holga.jpg
  That's a link to a shot in which I used the photoshop  Holga action.  I
  can't, for the life of me, remember where I got the action from - I
 thought
  Adobe had it on their website for download but I can't seem to find it
 now.
 
 
 
 
 



PAW: Java

2005-01-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/

Coffee anyone? Details on my PAW page.

Cheers
Dave



RE: [pdml] Re: PAW: Java

2005-01-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
Thanks Paul :)

Maybe it's me, but mundane subjects sometimes make me think h... how
can this be made to look somewhat interesting...
Mind you, the subject doesn't have to be inanimate either :D

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:41 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: PAW: Java


 Interesting shot. The minimal depth of field provides a different
 perspective on a fairly common subject. I like it.
 Paul
 On Jan 14, 2005, at 5:31 AM, David Chang-Sang wrote:

  http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/
 
  Coffee anyone? Details on my PAW page.
 
  Cheers
  Dave
 








RE: [pdml] New In Box Pentax MX ...

2005-01-12 Thread David Chang-Sang
It looked like a decent camera and I was eyeing it for about 5 seconds till
I saw the seller's feedback - there will be other MX's that I would rather
use than have sit on a shelf :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:47 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] New In Box Pentax MX ...


 .. just sold on eBay for $350.00

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=15240item=
 3866322743

 Gotta love those classic cameras ;-))  Is the MX old enough to be a
 classic, or just cool enough to be one ;-))


 Shel









RE: [personal] RE: Sot Box or Umbrella, which is better?

2005-01-11 Thread David Chang-Sang
My softbox (Photoflex 24x36) folds up and stores neatly into a carrying
bag that came with the softbox - too bad the speed ring can't fold up though
:D

So basically the softbox is a bit longer than, yep, you guessed it, an
umbrella.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:52 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [personal] RE: Sot Box or Umbrella, which is better?


 Thanks for the examples Jens.
 (All very nice shots BTW)
 And thanks everyone for your comments.

 I like the effect with the soft-boxes, but it is
 hard to judge because of the difference in media,
 subject, etc.
 I think I like the more directional, but still
 soft light of the boxes.
 I have on ocassion put dark cloth over the umbrellas
 (sort of a 'barndoor' effect.) to get a bit more
 direction to the light.
 Seems it would be very easy to mask a large box if
 one felt it was a bit too soft.

 One more question, how hard is it to transport a
 soft-box?
 Umbrellas are of course very easy.

 Don


  -Original Message-
  From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 5:50 PM
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: RE: Sot Box or Umbrella, which is better?
 
 
  Softboxes:
  http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt/DreamHC/Side1.html
  Umbrellas:
  http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt/DreamHC/Side21.html
  http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt/DreamHC/Side20.html
 
  All the best
  Jens
 
 
 
  ...I use the umbrella like this most of the time:
  http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt/DreamHC/Side17.html
 
  Jens Bladt
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 
  -Oprindelig meddelelse-
  Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sendt: 12. januar 2005 00:29
  Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Emne: Re: Sot Box or Umbrella, which is better?
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Brendan
  Subject: Re: Sot Box or Umbrella, which is better?
 
 
   William was it not you who said softboxes were better
   since you could control the direction of the light
   better nad have less spill?
 
  Absolutely, they excell at that, and the quality of the light can be
  very good.
  I have, however, come to prefer reflected light from an umbrella.
  I suspect it has something to do with the umbrella being a 3
  dimensional light source, as opposed to the flat lighting from a soft
  box.
  Ribless umbrellas are nicer still, since the structure of the
  reflector isn't as obvious in the catchlights.
  Somewhere around the house, I have both a 60 umbrella and a 60
  Moonlight softbox. I've never done a direct comparison.
  I should do that at some point.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 
 








RE: [pdml] Re: Digicam Suggestions

2005-01-08 Thread David Chang-Sang
Seeing as how I've owned and still own a number of That Brand's cameras ;)
I can say that the A series is solid.
If memory serves me correctly  the A series just enough of a little manual
control to grow into while still offering the usual consumer modes that
make it easy to use.

I wanted something more pocketable so I went with their SD200 for a PS..
not exactly fabulous but it's so small that it does what I want it to do..
be with me at all times and ready at a moments notice.

Cheers
Dave



 On 1/8/05 15:39, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  A few weeks ago I asked for some digicam suggestions for my
 sister.  This
  morning she informed me that she bought a Canon Powershot A75 which some
  people on the list suggested.  So, thanks to all who offered
 suggestions,
  especially to those who thought the A75 would be a worthwhile
  consideration.  My sis thought so as well.  I can't wait to
 start receiving
  pics of my niece and their new kitten and whatever else she
 wants to send
  my way.
 
  Shel
 
 
 
 








PAW: Union Station

2005-01-08 Thread David Chang-Sang
http://www.chang-sang.com/paw/

It's with the EOS-3.. I'm hoping to have some film back from the lab this
week that I can post next weeks PAW as a K1000 shot..

Cheers
Dave




RE: [pdml] Re: More Enablement was[Re: Enablement A Go-Go!!]

2005-01-06 Thread David Chang-Sang
Seeing as how I have the looks ;)
I'm willing to provide Buddhist outlook on things.. mind you, I'd have to
come to our meetins devoid of any camera gear it's a material thing
after all :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Tokayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:24 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: [pdml] Re: More Enablement was[Re: Enablement A Go-Go!!]

 Our TOPDML's are proof that we can survive inter-faith discussions.
 Who should be our Priest/Rabbi? ;-)

 Jeff.








RE: [pdml] Enablement A Go-Go!!

2005-01-04 Thread David Chang-Sang
Way to go Frank :)
Told ya you'd like a fisheye :)
Let me know when I can borrow that 1.2 ;)  I'm still waiting on my 1.4 from
down south.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:24 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: [pdml] Enablement A Go-Go!!


 The mailman got me a present today.  When I opened it, I found a K
 f1.2 50mm lens and a Zenit 16mm fisheye.

 Woo!




RE: [pdml] PAW: In the Hall

2005-01-03 Thread David Chang-Sang
I like this one Frank..
and love that vivitar 19mm.. 

the exposure is perfect imho.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:46 PM
 To: PDML
 Subject: [pdml] PAW: In the Hall
 
 
 Now that the lab's open after the hols, I can post PAW's again.
 
 This is the companion to Breaking in the Hallway, which was my last
 PAW.  Let me know what you think:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2901883/
 
 I actually cropped this one (shock and horror).  I don't like to, but
 sometimes ya gots ta do what ya gots ta do.
 
 Just to refresh your memory, here's Breaking in the Hallway:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2973964
 
 Comments always welcome!  Thanks in advance.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
 
 



OT: I'm Back with a new to me K1000 !!!

2004-12-31 Thread David Chang-Sang
Heoo gents and ladies :)

After having lunch with Frank and David Brooks and Jeff I decided that I'd
come back to the list to see what's cooking.

I've got a question about my new to me k1000 - it's been a while since I
owned one and I'm almost a newbie again me thinks - but here's my question:

Where do I put the memory card in the K1000??? ;)

Glad to be back,
Cheers,
Dave




RE: *istD sensor cleaning

2004-04-04 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hmm.. I wonder if I'll eventually have to do this with my 10D ;-)

Lurking till I hear about a TOPDML,
Dave ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 12:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: *istD sensor cleaning
 
 
 Take a picture of a white wall or blue sky,slowish shutter and 
 smallish ap.Should show
 what the sensor 
 has on it then.
 
 Dont feel too bad,Herb.It took Nikon Canada an hour to clean up 
 the gunk on my D1 ccd last
 Dec. Tech 
 said it was the dirtiest ccd he'd seen in a while.:-)
 
 Dave   
 
i won't know until it stops 
 raining and i get a decent shot 
 that might be
  worth keeping. it looks as good as new.
  
  Herb...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 4:10 PM
  Subject: Re: *istD sensor cleaning
  
  
   And the conclusion is
  
   I'm waiting for a and now the sensor is as good as new!
  
  
 
   
 
 
 
 
 



RE: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me) :-(

2003-08-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
Paul is absolutely correct.
Due dilligence in testing OS's and patches solves a lot of the problems.
Latest doesn't always mean greatest.

Our office didn't get hit by the worm in a bad way (we've only seen 2
machines out of some 600 or more that got hit) for a couple reasons:
1) We still run mainly WinNT4.0 on desktop systems
2) Our Security staff stay on top of every single MS Update/Hot Fix that is
released


Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Ewins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me) :-(


 I stopped doing that when one of those XP updates disabled my cable modem.
 The general rule of thumb at work for our *home* machines is to install
 service packs only. For the machines at work, mostly Win2000, we
 do a couple
 of days testing before applying each of the patches.

 Paul Ewins
 Melbourne, Australia

  The main point here is surely that Microsoft released a
 secuirty patch in
  July to deal with this: anyone running XP with Live Update
 enabled should be
  secure even without a firewall in place.  In today's
 environment, if you are
  running XP and you're not checking for updates on a daily basis, you got
  rocks in your head!







RE: Way OT - Mid-life Crisis

2003-08-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
Arrrgh..
Definitely a TOPDML before you go buddy!!!

Seems that change is in the air this year.. I too will be having to start
hunting for a new job soon as our company was taken over by another and the
big bulk of the biz including the IT staff are going to be let go.
2,500 in our head office downtown currently and they figure when all the
cutting and slashing is done maybe 400 will be left.

I hope you'll keep in touch Frank, if not on PDML, you always have the
ability to get a hold of me should you need/require anything from out here.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:09 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Way OT - Mid-life Crisis


 Well, not really a mid-life crisis per se, but I'm in my mid-life, and
 this is close to a crisis!  g

 A few of you know that the bike courier biz has really gone down the
 tubes in the last year or so.  In fact, my income has dropped by over
 30%, such that not only has my discrectionary income disappeared, but
 making ends meet has become a problem.

 Given my age, the fact that I've been riding a bike for a living for
 about 71/2 years, and since I've been promising myself for the last 3 or
 4 winters that I'm not going to do another winter, I've decided to start
 life anew.

 I've given my notice at work (effective Aug 31), and given my notice on
 my apartment (effective Sept 30), and will be moving down to Nova Scotia
 to stay with my Mom and Sis for a while.  I've come to the conclusion
 that I can't find a job while I work at the current one, and I can't
 afford to live in Toronto if I'm not working.  Besides, I need a
 vacation in the worst way - living from pay to pay is very draining.

 So, mid-September or so, I'll be off on an adventure (unfortunately,
 moving away from my kids, which I'm not happy with), and we'll see where
 I end up, and what I end up doing!  Will likely only be away from PDML
 for a couple of days or a week - mom has a computer. g

 cheers,
 frank

 --
 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
 pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
 Oppenheimer








RE: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me) :-(

2003-08-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
Bob,

While most of what you say makes perfect sense; the responsibility to
maintain a PC is in the hands of the PC owner - whether it's updating an O/S
or AntiVirus Software or if it's updating RAM, new Hard Drive etc. when
necessary/warranted.

There are many technicians out there who could do the updates/upgrades for
any end/home user if the home user themselves feels that it is a daunting
task.  As for ensuring that the home user knows or finds out about the
problems; we have a wonderful tool at our disposal which carries up to the
minute news and, for the most part, help on how to fix the problems in
simple step by step format. It's the Internet.

I agree that the way the O/S is built is partially to blame - hell, we all
know that Micro$oft has been building security weak O/S's since they've been
around but at the same time once a hole is found, it is noted and there are
areas where the end user can download a patch in a very short time.

The problem is that people, in general, are lazy.  They want everything done
for them and if it's not done for them they feel more than happy to blame
someone else rather than initially accepting the responsibility of owning
and operating a PC just as they would, to use your analogy, owning and
operating a vehicle.

Most people rather use the Internet for porn or shopping or cameras *smirk*
rather than use it as the great information tool that it is.  There in lies
part of the problem.  Familiarity breeds contempt and as such, people become
ignorant to the fact that there are malicious bits floating around out there
can attack and disable their PC's.

To borrow again from your analogy; sure, we wouldn't blame an automobile
driver for an accident if there was a manufactured defect in the car itself;
but if the driver/owner never changes the oil, or changes their tires when
they go bald, or adjusts the mirrors/seats before driving and an accident
occurs, we certainly can't blame the automobile manufacturer.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:42 AM
 To: John Coyle
 Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me) :-(


 Hi,

 Thursday, August 14, 2003, 12:54:09 AM, you wrote:

   In today's environment, if you are
  running XP and you're not checking for updates on a daily basis, you got
  rocks in your head!

 probably the overwhelming majority of people running Windows are
 ordinary, non-geeky types who haven't a clue that there is such a
 facility, who don't know what a worm, a firewall, port, rpc or
 whatever is, who don't want to know, and shouldn't need to know, any
 more than they need to know any of the technical crap about their
 fridge, washing machine, TV or car. Loading the responsibility for
 this onto the PC owners, rather than onto Microsoft who wrote such crap
 in the first place, is like blaming car drivers for crashes when the
 manufacturers build their cars wrong.

 I have 20+ years of IT experience and I still got hit by the worm.
 When I first got XP I kept getting a lot of damn stupid pop-up ads
 from pornographers through the background messenger service. It took
 me a couple of days to figure out how to turn it off. Other people I
 know put up with it for a very long time, completely baffled by what
 was going on. It only stopped when I turned it off for them.

 PCs are a consumer goodie, they're not just for geeks, yet the people
 who write these overblown, excessively complex operating systems - and
 it's not just Windows - seem to expect everybody who uses them to know
 everything there is to know about them. This is unrealistic, not to say
 arrogant, and is no doubt responsible, at least partly, for the widespread
 fear  loathing of computers and of IT people. We're long overdue in our
 industry for a major change of attitude. We shouldn't expect people to be
 computer-literate, we should build systems that are people-literate.

 --
 Cheers,
  Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







RE: *ist-D official picture samples!

2003-08-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
That's my point.
ISO 200 is the best the camera can do

I'd steer clear of it if that's the case.

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 11:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: *ist-D official picture samples!
 
 
 On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, David Chang-Sang wrote:
  I'm disappointed that no images have been shown at higher than ISO 200.
  This makes me feel like there's nothing but trouble if you want to
  shoot at a higher ISO.
 
 Why are people so paranoid?  Official samples is designed to show off the
 best quality the camera can produce.  What else would you have chosen if
 you run the Pentax PR department?
 
 
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RE: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me) :-(

2003-08-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
It _IS_ a nasty beast isn't it.

We've had it going on at work all day - patching systems.  Most are not
compromised due to the backward nature of our company (most desktops are
still running NT4 Workstation) so we're looking to lock down on the laptops
running XP and 2000.  It's killing XP laptops though - as the worm was
designed with XP in mind but will attack NT and 2000 as noted.

Win95, 98, Mac and WinME *shudder* are not affected.

Weird thing is - I've left both my systems on all day - hooked up 24-7 to
the net, and one of them is running Win2K server.
Neither system was compromised and I've just finished patching and updating
virus definitions. Both systems run behind an older 3 Com DSL router which,
may have staved off the worm enough for me to survive without patches on the
systems.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:26 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT Virus warning (no hoax beleive me) :-(


 On 12 Aug 2003 at 18:59, Brendan wrote:

   I have removed this little pest from 10 pcs so fr
  today, man too bad I can't charge money for doing this
  ( or maybe I can ).

 Thoughtfully is makes it's self apparent, the nasty bit is that
 once the system
 is compromised the details of your IP address etc are posted on a
 public chat
 relay so anyone can use the info. Very clever as it shuts down
 RPC access to
 the owner of the 'puter so you can't even force the trojan to
 shut down. It's
 being felt world wide, I got my dose yesterday and I run no MS
 products for
 browsing or mail. My mail client is virus resistant and I haven't
 used virus
 protection on this system for at least seven years and I've not
 been infected
 until now. Good luck.

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998







RE: *ist-D official picture samples!

2003-08-14 Thread David Chang-Sang
Sounds like a great plan.
I can't wait to try it out at parties and for street photography.
I should be really inconspicuous and have no problem transporting that piece
of equipment.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:52 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: *ist-D official picture samples!


 If quality is your primary objective, why are you playing around with
 miniature cameras? I suggest you immediately get a 20x24 view camera.

 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


 - Original Message -
 From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:08 PM
 Subject: RE: *ist-D official picture samples!


  That's my point.
  ISO 200 is the best the camera can do
 
  I'd steer clear of it if that's the case.



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RE: ist-D preview and DA 16-45mm F4 digital lens

2003-08-10 Thread David Chang-Sang
Let's keep in mind that this is a Pre-Production model and that Pentax did
not include any manuals to Phil Askey for review so he may have missed some
functionality.

On the plus side from what I've seen: excellent metering range; RAW mode;
size and weight; 200 ISO (makes the F4 lenses make more sense), can use some
of the old lenses.

On the negative side: no price associated at time of writing, no samples
provided (probably due to pre-production model), no on sale by date (i.e.
still in pre-production)

Let's hope Pentax gets their a$$ in gear and gets the product on the shelves
before Fuji announce their S3 (full frame) or Canon announce their 20D
(upgrade from the 10D).

Cheers,
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ist-D preview and DA 16-45mm F4 digital lens


 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0308/03080802pentaxistd.asp

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0308/03080801pentaxda1645m.asp

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RE: *ist D is bloody small!

2003-08-10 Thread David Chang-Sang
Small yes
but so are all the other Pentax SLRs - and unfortunately - it doesn't help
them in the marketplace.

I know we're all excieted about the *ist-D but let's remember to read the
full article before we go hog wild on the camera.

Waiting for the production model tests,
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:03 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: *ist D is bloody small!


 Yeah, I think this may actually be is number 1 selling point to people
 who arent already tied into the lens mount.  A lot of people using
 prosumer cams could well be put off DSLRs due to the size and weight of
 the damn things.  This is one of the main arguments behing the 4/3
 system from olympus.  But if we can have a body that small which still
 takes our existing glass, that has to be better than 4/3?  The other
 advantage of 4/s is the smaller lenses, but Pentax seem to be looking at
 that too (as does Nikon).  However the adoption of DA lenses could
 signal that full frame is a long way off, which does not please me...

  -Original Message-
  From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 08 August 2003 11:56
  To: Pentax List
  Subject: *ist D is bloody small!
 
 
  http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxistd/Images/sidebyside.jpg
 
  I can't believe how small that is!
 
 
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
 
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RE: *ist-D official picture samples!

2003-08-10 Thread David Chang-Sang
I'm disappointed that no images have been shown at higher than ISO 200.
This makes me feel like there's nothing but trouble if you want to shoot at
a higher ISO. Again, I'm waiting for full production tests.

Someone else asked why ISO 200 rather than 100 or 50??
Perhaps because the CCD can't handle ISO's that low.  Plus it gives Pentax
the opportunity to sell slower lenses and basically get away with it.  (i.e.
You don't need f2.8; you'll never be shooting at anything below ISO 200
anyway; F4 will be just fine.)

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 4:02 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: *ist-D official picture samples!


 From Pentax Japan:

 http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/ist-d/ex.html

 3 pictures - all taken at ISO 200.  I believe the important details of
 each picture can still be read even if you do not have japanese font
 installed.

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RE: TOPDML in September?

2003-08-04 Thread David Chang-Sang
I'm in.. I think.. as long as I still have a job :-)

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: TOPDML in September?
 
 
 I should be around, depending on whether I'll have kids on any given
 weekend.  Other than that, I'll be pretty flexible, time-wise.
 
 Hope to see ya, Pat!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 Pat White wrote:
 
  Hi, gang, I'll be in the GTA for the first two weeks in September.  Any
  chance of a get-together?  I'm committed to certain dates (family
  birthdays), but I'll definitely have some time free.
 
  Pat White
 
 --
 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The 
 pessimist
 fears it is true. -J. Robert
 Oppenheimer
 
 
 
 



RE: *ist-D Canadian price

2003-07-29 Thread David Chang-Sang
A Canon L 16-35 lens is about $1300 USD.
That's 2.8 throughout.
Compare the quality to anything close to what Pentax offers.
The closest item is a 17-28 3.5-4.5 zoom - which is $435 USD - and slower
and not as wide a range.
Or if you want to compare a similar pro Pentax lens, the closest they can
get is 20-35 F4 which is $475 USD - still slower by a full stop and not as
wide an angle of view.

Banter back and forth as you will, but having seen the quality images that
the L lenses can produce, you're not going to come close with the Pentax
range until Pentax can release a limited zoom lens series.

For everyday photos and if you don't need to pursue available light
images, then I'm sure the Pentax lenses will be just fine.

Cheers,
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: T Rittenhouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: *ist-D Canadian price


 You are mean, Doug. Trying to burst peoples bubbles grin.

 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


 - Original Message -
 From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:32 PM
 Subject: RE: *ist-D Canadian price


  How much is a Canon 18-35 lens?
 
 
  At 04:05 PM 7/29/03, throwing caution to the wind, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Hey Pat,
  
  I think that the price is bang on - the prices of those other
 bodies (10D
  and D100) are the same here in Toronto.
  
  If the Pentax is coming in at $2899 CDN vs the Canon 10D at
 $2499 CDN, I
  would think that people outside of the Pentax camp would be
 hard pressed
 to
  switch or try the *IST-D.
  
  You're basically looking at a 1st generation digital SLR
 that's supposed
 to
  be priced competitively yet is about $400 CDN (not including
 taxes) above
  the 3rd generation competitor.  With that extra $400, you could outfit
  yourself with a nice flash or perhaps a nice honking sized
 Compact Flash
  card.
  
  Cheers,
  Dave
 


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RE: *ist-D Canadian price

2003-07-29 Thread David Chang-Sang
My apologies.
I retract my statement regarding the pricing as I missed the and from
Pat's original email.

If this is the case - the cost of the Pentax should be adequately
competitive.
I'll await it's arrival and see how it fares against the Canons and Nikons.


Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: *ist-D Canadian price


 I know you are required, as a member of the Canon Believers, to
 disparage all things Pentax, but you missed the point. You compared the
 price of the Canon body to the Pentax body AND LENS, then complained
 that the Pentax body cost more than the Canon body. I was merely
 curious about the price of the Canon AND LENS. If you want to compare
 prices, then compare prices on similar deals.

 Doug

 On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 08:49 PM, David Chang-Sang wrote:

  A Canon L 16-35 lens is about $1300 USD.
  That's 2.8 throughout.
  Compare the quality to anything close to what Pentax offers.
  The closest item is a 17-28 3.5-4.5 zoom - which is $435 USD - and
  slower
  and not as wide a range.
  Or if you want to compare a similar pro Pentax lens, the closest
  they can
  get is 20-35 F4 which is $475 USD - still slower by a full stop and
  not as
  wide an angle of view.
 
  Banter back and forth as you will, but having seen the quality images
  that
  the L lenses can produce, you're not going to come close with the
  Pentax
  range until Pentax can release a limited zoom lens series.
 
  For everyday photos and if you don't need to pursue available light
  images, then I'm sure the Pentax lenses will be just fine.
 
  Cheers,
  Dave







RE: WOOOHOOO again

2003-07-26 Thread David Chang-Sang
Way to go Brendan; now, what did you use for it?
I remember the phone call for the wide angle but all I have is the normal
lens.. so now I'm curious :)

Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:42 PM
 To: Pentax
 Subject: WOOOHOOO again


 Now the english version

 http://www.torphoto.net/images/tearsheet4s.jpg

 tho it sucks in BW

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RE: flash needed

2003-07-20 Thread David Chang-Sang
Vivitar 283.
It's reliable
It's a workhorse
and you don't need any TTL functionality to get great looking photos with
it.
It'll probably dwarf the MX and the ME Super but it's powerful enough to do
the job.

I use mine with a lumiquest pocket bouncer and it has yet to fail me.

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Bevers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 11:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: flash needed

 snip

 So, I need to buy a flash.

 I've got an MX and an ME Super for right now, but I could see myself
 getting a Super Program for flash use, or even an AF Pentax by the end
 of the year.  My question is, what do I get?

 - A Vivitar 283 or 285: Is there any reason not to get the 285 instead
 of the 283, considering that the price difference is negligible?

 - An AF280T - use auto with my MX and have a TTL flash if I get a
 compatible camera later.  I'm sort of leaning towards this one.

 - Go for the gold and consider the AF360FGZ - this is definitely the
 flash I can grow into, but will it work my MX?  Is it worth the price
 considering it may be awhile before I can really use it?

 - Is there anything else I should consider?
 /snip







I'm Back

2003-07-17 Thread David Chang-Sang
What did I miss?

*ist-D release dates?

Dave



RE: I'm Back

2003-07-17 Thread David Chang-Sang
Left coast was.. well.. left :)

I miss that weather already - here's so muggy :(
Anyway, we'll see what turns out of the pics I snapped while out there.
Month and a half to the *ist-D huh.. we'll see.

My condolences to Dave Brooks - I've got 2 critters here that missed me tons
while I was gone.

Good news about the pics!!!

I'll consider next weekned for sure :)

Cheers
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: I'm Back


 Couple of flame wars.  *ist D coming out in a month and 1/2.  Dave
 Brooks cat died (I'm not being funny there, he did, and we're all quite
 sad about it).  Tony Blair made some big speech today.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=317476  (I know, they're
 fuzzy, they're scans from contacts).

 My five Mondo Espresso piccies are hanging up at the Jet Fuel, and I got
 a nibble from a guy who may want to buy 4 of them (they only went up
 yesterday).

 We should get a TOPDML thing next weekend - Beaches Jazz Fest.  Think
 about it...

 How was the Left Coast?

 cheers,
 frank





RE: OT - DPReview reports UK pricing for Olympus E1

2003-07-01 Thread David Chang-Sang
Even if the *ist D is in the price range of the 10D (not D10), it won't
make too much of a difference.
Canon already has a Rebel D in the works.
They are announcing it sometime this fall.
A consumer based DSLR with a smaller feature set and not as robust a body
as the 10D.
Price?
$800 USD Street.

The *ist D still has yet to see the light of day unfortunately.

Cheers,
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:33 PM
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: OT - DPReview reports UK pricing for Olympus E1


 This from DPReview on the UK pricing of the E-1 DSLR from Olympus:

 Olympus   UK has today confirmed that the body only list price of the E-
 1 digital   SLR (including 17.5% VAT) will be £1699.99. This means that
 at least   initially the E-1 will be approximately £200 more than a Nikon
 D100   and £450 more than a Canon EOS-10D. Assuming the E-1's street
 price   drops once the immediate rush is over we could see it matching
 the D100   at £1499 (inc. VAT). In my opinion this price is simply too
 high   for a new SLR system. We still don't have official pricing for
 lenses   or accessories.

 Full story:

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03070101e1ukprice.asp

 I agree that it is too high. Time will tell. That *ist D has to be well
 into D10 territory. Has to be.




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OT: How's Adorama For Used Equip?

2003-06-28 Thread David Chang-Sang
I know this has probably been around a few times but I'm eyeing some
equipment from Adorama and I'd like to know how they are with their used
department.  Has anyone bought used from Adorama?  Has anyone in Canada
bought used from Adorama?

Curious,
Dave




RE: Olympus 4/3 premiere

2003-06-24 Thread David Chang-Sang
Overpriced yes.
On the other hand.. a pre-production (or possibly production) model was
supplied for a preview to Phil Askey and he'll post a preview later today
(according to his site).  When did Pentax say the *ist-D was going to be
available again ?

I'm beginning to think that the *ist-D is going to fall by the wayside by
the time it is released - no one seems to have a pre production model in
their hands for testing or such and in the meantime, they are getting
trumped by companies that actually have produced a digital SLR.

So although it's overpriced, I bet you'll be able to hold the E-1 in your
hands at your local camera shop before you'll be able to hold the *ist-D.

Cheers,
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:36 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Olympus 4/3 premiere


 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062403olympuse1.asp
 For me overpriced - 2199$ body only... and 7999$ for 300(600)/2.8...

 --
 Best Regards
 Sylwek









RE: Olympus 4/3 premiere

2003-06-24 Thread David Chang-Sang
Giving a pre production model to a Pentaxian vs giving a pre production
model to a Web or Magazine reviewer are two different things.

In order for Pentax to prove itself as in the game they have to allow
someone reputable from outside our little enclave to review or preview the
camera.  Without a review or preview by a magazine or web site, like
anything else, it will be out of sight, out of mind.

Cheers,
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Olympus 4/3 premiere


 I don't think so. not this time anyway. Dario Bonazza should have
 preproduction model during Pentax Day (it started 22 june). I hope we will
 all see his short report soon. And that's good reason, that we
 will see *ist
 D on shelves soon :-)

 --
 Best Regards
 Sylwek









RE: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux

2003-06-23 Thread David Chang-Sang
Same here.. I've used both the Blad and the G2 and have never had a problem
with flare. And I don't use a shade on my 80mm T*.
I don't see what the big hubub is about. I've got the Canon 50mm. I've never
experienced flare.
I'm not pointing my lens directly into the sun mind you.
I have, however, experienced flare on an older Pentax SMC 28mm Screw mount
and on that old Vivitar 19mm that Frank now owns.
I expected flare at that point though as I shot with the sun at about my 2
o'clock position.

Cheers,
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: Len Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux


 Wow!  That's amazing.  Pentax and Zeiss jointly developed multi-coating
 technology.  I've used Zeiss T* coated lenses on both Hasselblad and
 Contax cameras and have not found them to be inferior to SMC.  I didn't
 keep my Pentax 43mm f/1.9 Ltd lens long enough to give it a real flare
 test against Zeiss because the Pentax F 50mm f/1.7 was a lot sharper, in
 my opinion.

 Len
 ---

  -Original Message-
  From: Bob Walkden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:53 PM
  To: Lon Williamson
  Subject: Re: Canon 50mm and flare, part deaux
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Monday, June 23, 2003, 8:33:34 PM, you wrote:
 
   How 'bout it folks, is SMC hype or real?
 
  I never knew what flare was until I switched from Pentax to Contax.
 
  --
  Cheers,
   Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 







RE: Show Pics

2003-06-13 Thread David Chang-Sang
If you don't Tom.. 

I WILL  ;-)

Smirkingly,
Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:50 PM
 To: pdml
 Subject: Show Pics
 
 
  snip
 I think I'll call her and see if she wants to have another go.
 /snip
 
 
 
 



OT: Seamless Paper or Muslin?

2003-06-11 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hi everyone,

I'm curious, for those who use backgrounds, which do they prefer and why;
seamless paper or muslin?

I've been considering purchasing a background for myself for portrait and
full body work but now I have a suspicion that seamless paper may be more
convenient and, in the long run, more versatile.

Any and all comments and input welcome and appreciated.

Cheers,
Dave




OT: Epson 1280 Owners

2003-04-03 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hi Folks..

I just noted that the Epson 1280 has a $100 US rebate still in effect until
the end of this month.
As an 870 owner for the past few years I was wondering what you all may
think of the 1280.
With that $100 Rebate it's a tempting offer to upgrade so that I can print
out 11x14's here at home.

Curious as always,
Dave







RE: Mark Roberts in Toronto

2003-04-03 Thread David Chang-Sang
Yes Mark, very nice to meet you.  Hope the drive back wasn't too
treacherous.
And ya.. I retract my previous statements about the MZ-S from an ergonomic
standpoint.
It's a nice camera to hold portrait or landscape wise..

and that limited... ah...

I may have to buy more pentax gear :)

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mark Roberts in Toronto


Mark great to meet you and you'd better make sure that
43mm and MZ-S makes it back in one piece.






RE: Some photos - Frank Too!!

2003-03-29 Thread David Chang-Sang
These are great Dave.
I love Norman and Quiet Time

Nice shots of Superma.. I mean Jeff doing his Superman pose... :-) and Frank
too :-)

Speaking of Frank. Frank I've emailed you a few times over the last
day or so wrt a few different things but I don't know if the mail's getting
through.  Contact me and let me know :-)

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Some photos



Hello all.Had a chance to sit and scan tonight so i thought i'd
do a photo.net

folder.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=196173

The two 6x6's are for Collin B. who missed out on the December TOPDML meet
at the
ROM,using
Yashica-Mat and Delta 3200.
The cat is SP with Delta 400 and the combine and tree are the Technical Pan
25 with the
90x. I'm still
learning this scanning stuff so comments are welcome(be gentle,don't take to
much of my
skin offg)

Dave






Thank You (Was:RE: ME-F plus other stuff - *sigh* -)

2003-03-29 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hi folks,

Thank you for your kind words regarding my situation.  I appreciate it.
I guess, on the upside, I have to be thankful that the thief(ves) didn't
break any of my windows to get in and that they didn't damage the car per
se.

I also have to realise that in the grand scheme of things, this type of
stuff will happen, and it's really only background noise on the radar screen
of life.

Thanks again,
Cheers,
Dave






RE: Some photos - Frank Too!!

2003-03-29 Thread David Chang-Sang
Yep.. scans turned out just fine.
I often scan at 600dpi as well for the screen.
Usually it's ok and a good compromise b/w the resolution and time it takes
to scan.

I can imagine Jeff falling forward ... that Fuji 6x9 is a beast but takes
great shots.

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Some photos - Frank Too!!


   Thanks for the comments,David(btw i feel for your loss).
The cats always sit on that window
but only once in a while do i get half decent light.The Quiet time was a
test.I metered
the room in the
pub,focused to infinity,pointed the camera will on the table and
clicked.Leaf shutters are
great.vbg

I had to take the one of Jeff and Frank quickly as Jeff kept falling
forward, lol.

As far as the scans they were on the 2450 at about 600 dpi except for Norman
at 1200.Do
you think
they turned out ok??

Dave

Dave

 These are great Dave.
 I love Norman and Quiet Time

 Nice shots of Superma.. I mean Jeff doing his Superman pose... :-) and
Frank
 too :-)

 Cheers,
 Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Some photos



   Hello all.Had a chance to sit and scan tonight so i thought
i'd
 do a photo.net

 folder.

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=196173

 The two 6x6's are for Collin B. who missed out on the December TOPDML meet
 at the
 ROM,using
 Yashica-Mat and Delta 3200.
 The cat is SP with Delta 400 and the combine and tree are the Technical
Pan
 25 with the
 90x. I'm still
 learning this scanning stuff so comments are welcome(be gentle,don't take
to
 much of my
 skin offg)

 Dave













RE: Annoucement on *ist and lenses delay in Japan

2003-03-27 Thread David Chang-Sang
Would this suggest or hint at the *ist D being delayed as well or do we feel
that it will be on time ?

Curious
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Henry Henry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Annoucement on *ist and lenses delay in Japan


Dear all,

Pentax Japan announced on 27 Mar 2003 that the release of *ist, BG-20,
FAJ28-80 and FAJ75-300 will be delayed by one month.  The products are now
expected to arrive in late April, instead of late March as originally
anticipated:

http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2003/200319.html

The reason for the delay is: The fine-tuning of the high quality camera body
needs a longer time.

Regards,

Henry
28/3/2003



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RE: ME-F plus other stuff - *sigh* - Retraction

2003-03-27 Thread David Chang-Sang
Well..
after realising that I had placed this FS ad, I then turned around this
evening to take photos of said camera with the 50mm f1.4 lens on it.

Guess where the camera WAS? (come on.. one guess)..

I'm only just realising that the scumbags took off with the ME-F as well..
nothing is safe in a locked car anywhere anymore - even if the car is in a
locked underground parking garage
that has meager video surveillance and has an alarm system :(

I know that's no excuse for being a fool and leaving  the ME-F in said auto
but I guess I put too much faith in people being mostly intrinsically good.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FS: ME-F plus other stuff - *sigh*


Ugh..

it pains me to do this for a number of reasons:

1) because I have yet to get the ME Winder from Jeff - :-(
2) because I don't want to get rid of it but I need the $$$  :-(

For Sale:
EX ME-F - fully functional, fresh batteries - meter checks out just fine
and all functions work - comes with instruction manual.
SMC-M 50mm f1.4 with caps
SMC-M 135mm f3.5 with case and caps
Sigma 35-70 2.8-4 PK-A mount zoom (metal construction) with case (no caps)
All lenses in EX to EX+ condition.

Looking for $175 USD for the lot

Why am I selling?  My car got broken into last night and my stereo got
swiped by some n'ere-do-wells so I need funds to get a new one. And no, I'm
not going to go through my insurance company because I have a $1,000 CDN
deductible and a new deck is going to cost me a lot less than that.

Thanks,
Dave


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RE: Complaints

2003-03-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
I've been staying out of this one for the most part but I must agree with
Bruce here.
The Date Function, while it may be handy for some, is sort of pointless in
my books.
The Contax G2 data back gave a lot more information - exposure info for
example - that may be more useful and it imprinted it between frames (IIRC).
That would be something a lot more useful than knowing the date of the image
as far as I'm concerned.

I don't ever recall talking to anyone who was purchasing a camera that the
date function was going to be a make or break item.

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Complaints


In the US, only the 7E model can be had with the date option. It is a
virtually worthless option for SLRs. Unless you have some very special
need it is only for the PS crowd. The date function will not sell more
*ists vis-a-vis the Elan 7.

BR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:53:53 -0500

 They're only $40 (not the E version) apart here, and the Canon name
 is worth $40 to a lot of people.


 Do you compare date models? The *ist comes with a data back as
 standard, it can't be bought without one. You must compare with date
 models from the competition.

 Best wishes,
 Roland


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OT: Power Thread - Battery Packs

2003-03-25 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hi folks...

In my quest for maintaining constant power to my numerous flashes (Metz and
Vivitar) I'm curious to find out if any of you out there are using any
Quantum Battery Packs.

If you are, how do you like them?  Which type are you using?

As the spring and wedding season approach I know that sometimes NiMH may not
be enough.


Thanks a ton,
Dave




RE: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?

2003-03-20 Thread David Chang-Sang
It's not the central location I was hoping for (i.e. Toronto *smirk*) but it
seems that for one reason or another most folks wanna do Vegas.

I would suggest an early 2004 meeting as it would appear that the current
state of world affairs may have things a bit chilly at least till the end of
the year (gas prices/travel bans etc. etc. etc.)

Mind you.. I'm only suggesting it.. if you guys want to go ahead for this
year.. more power to ya !! :-)

Let's see... Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon, day trips to Arizona?

Cheers,
Dave





RE: Pentax needs USM and IS

2003-03-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
Agreed -
but Specs do play a part. I wouldn't purchase an automobile on looks alone
(although many have) as that would be silly since I'm not made of .  I
also wouldn't purchase an automobile without test driving it first.

The whole package has to be considered; and, as I often tell friends who
are interested in purchasing a camera, Go into the store and hold it and
fire it off and see what it feels like first, then check your specs and such
later

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 7:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax needs USM and IS

I think the MZ-S is very inexpensive for its construction quality and
capabilities.

Lists of specifications are no way to choose a camera.

--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com






Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax)

2003-03-19 Thread David Chang-Sang
Hmm..
Perhaps we should organize something then..
one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ?

Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably centralized location that has
inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting opportunities
and courteous residents?

I think this would be a great idea...

I'm willing to help out.. anyone else?
Dave


-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax


Hi, Cesar,

Finding a bar big enough?  That could be done.  Finding a bar that would
take us
in?  No problem.

Finding a bar that wouldn't boot us all out after about an hour of
carousing?
That could be the problem...  vbg

cheers,
frank

Cesar Matamoros II wrote:

 snipWhat a concept though, a complete gathering of the PDML.  It is both
an
 exciting and a scary thought.  Would there be a bar big enough for us
all -
 and would they even take us in?  snip

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RE: Pentax needs USM and IS

2003-03-18 Thread David Chang-Sang
Ok.. Let's see if I can clarify a statement that I made earlier:
The MZ-S is a failure

I believe that's how I put it.
Now, why do I feel this way?
1) Price - like all PDMLers, I whine about the cost of things - especially
things that I can get for about half the cost of the MZ-S - The Elan 7 is
not a flagship model - it's about 3 or 4 down from Canon's top O' the line
EOS-1v - spec'd out it misses on a couple points but is half the price of
the MZ-S

2) Availability of Accessories - I do recall, as many of you may or may not,
Mr Brad Dobo (may he R.I.P.) complaining about having to traverse much of
this province in search of at least one accessory (those of you who have the
digest version and are intense enough to search for it can remind me which
one it was) because Pentax Canada didn't have any in stock and the slow boat
from Japan was taking far too long - Most major companies, if they are truly
trying to get the pro market share, would, I believe, bend over backwards
for their pro shooters.  Pentax on the other hand shrug and offer you a
nice PS camera instead.

3) Specs - for about $80 more (according to the BH) you can have an EOS 3
($880) over the MZ-S ($799) -

Viewfinder: for the EOS 3 - 97% coverage; Viewfinder for the MZ-S - 92%
coverage. Both offer interchangeable screens

Metering: for the EOS 3 - Evaluative metering (linkable to any point),
Partial metering (approx. 8.5% of viewfinder at center), Center spot
metering (approx. 2.4% of viewfinder at center), Spot metering (linked to
focusing point at approx. 2.4% of viewfinder), Multi-spot metering (Max. 8
multi-spot metering entries), Center-weighted averaging metering - Range
0-20EV

for the MZ-S - 6-Zone evaluative, Centerweighted, Spot - Range 0-21EV


Focusing System: for the EOS 3 - 0-18EV range, up to 45 AF points (that's
excessive in my books.. but hey.. some people want that), and eye controlled
focus

for the MZ-S - 1-18EV range, 6 AF points in a cross hair pattern


Shutter Speed: for the EOS 3 - 30 - 1/8000 - syncs at 1/200

for the MZ-S - 30 - 1/6000 - syncs at 1/180


I'm going to stop listing spec's there - we all can look them up and quote
them ad nauseum (which I'm sure you're getting already) but I think you see
that the EOS 3 is only $80 more than the MZ-S and you're getting a bit more
bang for your buck on the body.

4) Lenses - this really isn't a knock since you all know how good the Pentax
glass is.  This I admit to; however it's the old glass that I believe is
worthy and the new stuff just hasn't been developed to be pro grade.  At
the same point in time the Canon and Nikon pro glass can be expensive but
then it offers more options a la USM and IS.
A good example:
Canon 28-70 f2.8 L (USM) - $1029.00 USA or $999.95 Import
Pentax 28-70 f2.8 SMC-FA - $999.95


So.. is the MZ-S a failure?
As a flagship model; I'd say that it is.
As a 3rd tier semi-pro/advanced amateur model - it's ok.

If I had the $$$ now to choose and, had no apparent brand loyalty (and the
Toronto PDML folk know that I don't) - I would do my research and probably
go with the Canon EOS 3 for the extra $80 US.
I never even included Nikon's F100 which would probably have been similar to
the EOS 3 - but I figure Bruce Rubenstein or another Nikon shooter could
probably chime in with their opinion on that one.

I have no quarrel with those that chose the MZ-S.  If you've got it going on
with the camera and you dig it; more power to you. What I have a problem
with is Pentax making a flagship model that is only 3rd tier of what other
competing companies are making.  As I stated before, this is why I feel
that Pentax is happy with their current share of the 35mm market - They have
stated that this year would be different; so far, it has been - let's hope
that it continues and Pentax will prove me, and all the others out there
hoping for something special, wrong.

Cheers,
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 7:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax needs USM and IS




Kenneth Waller wrote:

 Huh?
 Kenneth Waller

 - Original Message -
 From: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:57 PM
 Subject: RE: Pentax needs USM and IS

  Pentax's current flagship - MZ-S - is, even by those on this list,
  considered a failure.

I've not yet seen a proper definition of why/how it's a failure, so
until I do, it seems pretty good on the specifications page... Right
now I don't buy that...

  Pentax's last decent model was the MZ-5n IMHO.

Aka ZX-5N in the U.S. of A. A well-respected camera, by all accounts...

keith whaley






RE: Pentax needs USM and IS

2003-03-17 Thread David Chang-Sang
Pal;

Pentax's current flagship - MZ-S - is, even by those on this list,
considered a failure.
Pentax's last decent model was the MZ-5n IMHO.
What's left?
MZ-L, MZ-6 etc. none of which are beyond advanced amateur.  The same could
be said for Minolta's offerings outside of their nicely spec'd Maxxum 5/7/9
series.  Canon and Nikon, while still aiming at entry level users still seem
to want to develop and have developed pro grade cameras and lenses.  Maybe
it's because they can afford to, maybe it's because people want them, or
maybe it's because they basically own that market niche.  I don't believe
that Pentax wants to, nor sees an opportunity to, take a share of that
market.  It would cost far too much money to begin developing a lens line or
camera line that would be on par with the EOS-1/F5's offered by the
competitors. I really think that Pentax is happy with it's share of the 35mm
market.

With respect to your reply regarding the lack of pro-grade equipment:
15 year old equipment doesn't cut it for everyone.  Constant advances in
lenses by other companies, including 3rd party makers, seems to be what the
public (pro and amateur alike) seem to want.  I'm not sure if I would
consider a 15 year old lens, while it may have been top notch back in 1988,
to be up to pro-grade standards today.  The Limiteds were/are nice but even
so, Pentax has made themselves an oddball by creating lenses that, when
viewed by those outside the sphere of Pentaxian culture, as being strange.
How many other companies are creating 77mm, 43mm and 31mm focal lengths?

I'm merely saying that Pentax does not want to nor do they see a need to
develop pro-level gear in 35mm format. For some people, this is perfectly
fine, and acceptable, for others, it is not. I personally prefer the 15 year
old stuff because I'm not going to sweat it when I toss it aside because I
didn't spend a lot of cash on it.  Just remember that if anyone holds onto
their 15 year old equipment there will be a time, as I'm sure you're well
aware, when they'll be turned away by Pentax themselves because they no
longer support that equipment (i.e. LX for example) no matter how close to
pro grade it used to be.

Dave


-Original Message-
From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax needs USM and IS


Dave wrote:

Pentax's target market in 35mm SLR has, I believe,
always been amateur or entry level.

REPLY:
Canon target market have also always been entry level. They have in fact
dominated this segment for 25 years. The wast majority of all Nikon and
Canon gear sold is entry level.

DAVE:
This does not mean that they do not produce good cameras.  It does, mean,
however that they do not see a need to develop advanced amateur or pro
level gear.


REPLY:

Pentax have always been present in the upper market segments. The majority
of their lenses are far from entry level. In the 60's there wasn't any entry
level as understood today and those old Pentax cameras and lenses are still
enjoyed for their non-surpassed built quality.

So your assesment isn't correct. Pentax have never actively marketed
anything towards pros but thats a totally different issue.
They haven't lacked pro grade equipment. It is just the fact that their
current lenses are basically 15 years old technologically speaking. The 90's
has been an era where Pentax have chosen preofitability over market share
for 35mm slr's.

Pål








RE: THE FRENCH

2003-03-17 Thread David Chang-Sang
Thanks for keeping politics off of the list...

Dave


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: THE FRENCH


I seem to recall the French doing you guys a lot of favours way back
in the 18th century, and didn't Franklin and so on spend a lot of time
there? Will you be sending back the Statue of Liberty?

With friends like ... You don't need ..
Let's see. The French wanted to get rid of Lafayette so they sent him to us.
Thank goodness. He was an asset. Possibly the last French asset. Yes, they
arrived to blockade at Yorktown. We had already won.
WW I? no comment
WWII? What was that French town they renamed their government after.
The brave Brits fought tooth and nail against some of the most horrific
weapons Hitler could mount. The French? Well, lets see, they came to terms
with the occupying Germans.
But lets NOT forget all that past help. Also remember that NY sewer known as
the UN. A third world sewer populated, mostly, by rejects from the world's
diplomatic corp.
Yes, we Americans have friends in this world. But, the French never were or
never really will be any of them. Blame it on envy; dislike of America's
culture or plain anything. Never liked them before; don't like them now.
G-D bless the English speaking nations of the world.
When you judge America ask yourself one question: Where would the world be
without a United States of America?
Burt
NYC
USA






RE: This weekend

2003-03-15 Thread David Chang-Sang
Depending on the flash and what you're shooting Dave; NPH is pretty gosh
darn good in my books - but I'm shooting mostly people.  Portra NC would be
my back up. NPZ rules - but it's expensive to shoot.

Seeing as how it's going to be so gosh darn sunny.. I'm grabbing some chrome
film this morning and dropping it into the Blad and trying out some 6x6
Provia down in the local markets (Kensington and St Lawrence for you
Torontonians).
I'm going to take along the ME-F and see what I can shoot with that as
well - it came with this Sigma 35-70 2.8-4.0 zoom but I haven't got a clue
what that's like.

I've been so busy the last few weeks, both during the week and on weekends
that I've not had time to do any shooting nor do much else other than
support clients full time and part time. Maybe this weekend's warming trend
will also allow me to not have to support them for a while yet :)

I still owe some local PDML'rs some coin for things I've said I'll purchase
but haven't gotten around to picking up...

Cheers,
Dave

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 http://www.usefilm.com/browse.php?mode=portdata=603


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This weekend


   It looks like a warm trend is setting in to southern ontario,so,with snow
meltage a
given,
i'm parking a few rolls of Tmax and Portra 400nc in the truck and try and
get some last
winter
pic's.Also its indoor show season now,some of the girls are showing ,so its
back to the
grind.
Ken,i tried some supra 800 last year and was not that fond of it.I just
tried a roll of
NPZ and it was nice
but ymmv.I lust got back a roll of the NPH shot with flash and dull out door
light,and was
not
impressed.I think Portra 400nc might be a tad better.

Dave








RE: This weekend

2003-03-15 Thread David Chang-Sang
Dave Dave Dave...
if you're going to use the F meter just for colour shots..
i'd be happy to take it off your hands :-)

BW, Zone, and then figure out your film density.. get a densitometer and go
nutty a la Ansel :-)

Let's see some of these F meter shots :-)

Cheers,
Dave


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:45 AM
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Subject: RE: This weekend


Actually the flash stuff was not to bad.We moved the survey department last
weekend to a
new
building so i shot 1/2 roll of the NPH to document the event.Used the SP and
the
280T.Colours were
nice.Mind you the outside stuff was shot on a dull day,old abandon cabins in
a wooded
area.However i
did shoot them with the New F meter. :-) I have a roll of NPC to try,maybe
this weekend.I
have no big
chrome film.

Dave

 Depending on the flash and what you're shooting Dave; NPH is pretty gosh
 darn good in my books - but I'm shooting mostly people.  Portra NC would
be
 my back up. NPZ rules - but it's expensive to shoot.









RE: Bitch and Moan, again

2003-03-12 Thread David Chang-Sang
What's that??
Someone's making a 14 MP DSLR with a 12-600 f1.2 zoom and an effective
motordrive of 36fps???
COOL

awww... but it's $300 US.. and we all know that $300 USD is
waaay too much for us lowly Canadians to afford..

C'est la vie...

Smirkingly
Dave

-Original Message-
From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bitch and Moan, again


I have come to the conclusion that if Pentax, or any other camera
manufacturer, were to introduce a 14MP DSLR, with a12-600/f1.2 zoom,
effective motordrive of 36 fps, and price it at $300.00 USD, there would be
people on this list who find something to bitch an moan about it!!!

Bill







RE: The really difficult question

2003-03-11 Thread David Chang-Sang
Collin.. 

tut tut tut... 
you can NEVER have enough toys... 

Never.. never I say

Booowahahahahahahahaa!!!

Insanely yours,
Dave


-Original Message-
From: collinb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: The really difficult question


How many of you think you have enough equipment?
You may upgrade or transition to another medium or format,
but the quantity and class of hardware suits you.

Who will face the hardest question of all?
:)






OT: Question For You Professional photogs out there

2003-03-07 Thread David Chang-Sang
Ok folks,

Here's the scenario.

I shot a number of baby pics about 3-4 months ago for a young mother and her
husband.  I know them via her (the young mother's) mother-in-law.

I fired off about 24 color 6x6's and 36 BW and 24 Color 35mm shots.  I did
a lot because the kids were super fidgety - one, the young girl, is just
past two years old and the son is just over 3 months old.  Needless to say
it was hard for them to sit reasonably still for any length of time.

Anyway, I handed over the proofs and waited till they were ready to order
prints.  I figured I got about 6-8 decent photos out of all the shots I
took - mainly due to trying to maintain the kids attention :-)

The kicker was, that the mother-in-law has been dealing with me and she said
that her daughter-in-law (i.e. the mother of the kids) didn't like ANY of
the photos.  That was fine, I could deal with that but she added a comment
that struck me as interesting.  She said that in the future, if I'm going to
give proofs back to clients, I should only hand them the good photos and
toss out all the bad ones.

My question to all of you:
How do YOU handle your proofs when handing them back to clients?  Do you
sort and only hand the good ones back or do you give them the whole 9 yards
so they know you're not holding anything back?

I'm curious as this is sort of new per se to me.

Gracias,
Dave




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