Re: Re: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...

[Mitch Conant]

 Ken:

Valley of Fire is awesome. I hiked out to see the petroglyphs and came 
back. It was about 110 deg. I burn easy so I had on a light long sleeve 
shirt and hat but my face still looked like a lobster!


Mitch

On 1:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Mitch - thanks for looking & commenting.

As for the black backgrounds with the leaves - they were taken at the 
crack of dawn with my back to the rising sun - I spotmetered the 
brightest spots on the leaves, letting the background go dark. Same 
for the ridgeline ('North Face of Denali'?) - in Photoshop I then made 
sure the dark side became completely dark.

HTH.

And by the way, next time in Vegas you've got to take the time to 
visit 'Valley of Fire' State Park about an hour or so north of the 
city - in spots, its other worldly.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mitch Conant" 
Subject: Re: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...



 Ken:

VERY nice gallery! How did you get the black backgrounds on some of 
the photos, like the one of the leaves, and along the ridge line??? I 
love it.


...and yes, "ancient Chinese secret" is a valid answer ...

Mitch

On 1:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Mitch Conant" 
Subject: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...



 Ann:

I used to go to Vegas for a yearly networking (computer) trade 
show. The last 3 years that I went, I went on the Friday before the 
show. Arrived and went to Utah for the weekend. I stumbled on Zion 
the first year (without my cameras) but turned those weekends into 
photo excursions for the last 2. Hence, I haven't been to 
everything I want to see (Canyonlands and Arches).


What's Capitol Reef all about? As I recall, it didn't capture my 
imagination when I heard about it all those years ago ...


Well for one it doesn't have Kadak tripod hole locations & the 
crowds that go with it, so you can pretty much have the place to 
yourself - I've been there 3 times, mainly in early spring and have 
never been bothered by crowds - heck there were days in the park I 
never saw another person.




Mitch


On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a slew of 'em myself...   We might have passed each other 
on a trail here and there :-)


You didn't meniotn Canyonlands or Arches -- was that just for the 
sake of brevity?


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:


 Ann:

Thanks for the input. I had SAMs Club convert a couple hundred 
slides that I shot in the early 90's; with my ME & MX. This was 
one of them. I'm planning to post these as GESO(s). I have photos 
from Zion, Bryce, Cedar Breaks, Kodachrome Basin and Rocky 
Mountain N.P.


You are right ... southern Utah is one of my FAVORITE places!

Mitch



On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I particularly like the Zion shot... wonderful BW conversion... 
  and - well hell, it's one of my favorite places.



The other two are certainly well done, but don't say much to 
me... too much just like an exercise in technique.


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:

 Tried sending this last night but it never was posted to the 
list. Let's try it again...


After a long, cold winter of working on my photo album webpage 
and associated management utilities; I have a bunch of stuff 
from 2010 and 2011 to post. In the near future I hope to post a 
couple of GESOs and more PESOs.


For now, here are 3 PESOs that didn't fit into any galleries, I 
guess they are just photos in my photo "shoebox"...


http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068> 



As usual (it goes without saying) feedback and comments would 
be appreciated.


Mitch






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Re: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...

[Mitch Conant]

 Ken:

VERY nice gallery! How did you get the black backgrounds on some of the 
photos, like the one of the leaves, and along the ridge line??? I love it.


...and yes, "ancient Chinese secret" is a valid answer ...

Mitch

On 1:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message ----- From: "Mitch Conant" 
Subject: Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...



 Ann:

I used to go to Vegas for a yearly networking (computer) trade show. 
The last 3 years that I went, I went on the Friday before the show. 
Arrived and went to Utah for the weekend. I stumbled on Zion the 
first year (without my cameras) but turned those weekends into photo 
excursions for the last 2. Hence, I haven't been to everything I want 
to see (Canyonlands and Arches).


What's Capitol Reef all about? As I recall, it didn't capture my 
imagination when I heard about it all those years ago ...


Well for one it doesn't have Kadak tripod hole locations & the crowds 
that go with it, so you can pretty much have the place to yourself - 
I've been there 3 times, mainly in early spring and have never been 
bothered by crowds - heck there were days in the park I never saw 
another person.




Mitch


On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a slew of 'em myself...   We might have passed each other on 
a trail here and there :-)


You didn't meniotn Canyonlands or Arches -- was that just for the 
sake of brevity?


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:


 Ann:

Thanks for the input. I had SAMs Club convert a couple hundred 
slides that I shot in the early 90's; with my ME & MX. This was one 
of them. I'm planning to post these as GESO(s). I have photos from 
Zion, Bryce, Cedar Breaks, Kodachrome Basin and Rocky Mountain N.P.


You are right ... southern Utah is one of my FAVORITE places!

Mitch



On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I particularly like the Zion shot... wonderful BW conversion...   
and - well hell, it's one of my favorite places.



The other two are certainly well done, but don't say much to me... 
too much just like an exercise in technique.


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:

 Tried sending this last night but it never was posted to the 
list. Let's try it again...


After a long, cold winter of working on my photo album webpage 
and associated management utilities; I have a bunch of stuff from 
2010 and 2011 to post. In the near future I hope to post a couple 
of GESOs and more PESOs.


For now, here are 3 PESOs that didn't fit into any galleries, I 
guess they are just photos in my photo "shoebox"...


http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068> 



As usual (it goes without saying) feedback and comments would be 
appreciated.


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Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...

[Mitch Conant]

 Ann:

Looks like a classic thrust fault, on a grand scale. I need to put 
Capitol Reef on the list . Shhh ... don't tell Ken. Ken ... DON'T LOOK!!!


The Geologic history of that area is fascinating, being formed by 
"geologic forces"; as opposed to "erosion forces" that formed the 
Alleghenies and Blue Ridge ranges.


Thanks, I will continue reading about the area.

Mitch


On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
See..  I just promised Ken Waller I wouldn't tell you about Capitol 
Reef :-)


It is up the road a piece .. a bit too far to dash off for a day and 
get back to Vegas...
but google "waterpocket fold"  images for a quickie look  then read 
about it.


Sorry, Ken -- as long as he doesnt tell everyone at his convention 
:-)


ann


Mitch Conant wrote:


 Ann:

I used to go to Vegas for a yearly networking (computer) trade show. 
The last 3 years that I went, I went on the Friday before the show. 
Arrived and went to Utah for the weekend. I stumbled on Zion the 
first year (without my cameras) but turned those weekends into photo 
excursions for the last 2. Hence, I haven't been to everything I want 
to see (Canyonlands and Arches).


What's Capitol Reef all about? As I recall, it didn't capture my 
imagination when I heard about it all those years ago ...


Mitch 







On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I have a slew of 'em myself...   We might have passed each other on 
a trail here and there :-)


You didn't meniotn Canyonlands or Arches -- was that just for the 
sake of brevity?


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:


 Ann:

Thanks for the input. I had SAMs Club convert a couple hundred 
slides that I shot in the early 90's; with my ME & MX. This was one 
of them. I'm planning to post these as GESO(s). I have photos from 
Zion, Bryce, Cedar Breaks, Kodachrome Basin and Rocky Mountain N.P.


You are right ... southern Utah is one of my FAVORITE places!

Mitch



On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I particularly like the Zion shot... wonderful BW conversion...   
and - well hell, it's one of my favorite places.



The other two are certainly well done, but don't say much to me... 
too much just like an exercise in technique.


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:

 Tried sending this last night but it never was posted to the 
list. Let's try it again...


After a long, cold winter of working on my photo album webpage 
and associated management utilities; I have a bunch of stuff from 
2010 and 2011 to post. In the near future I hope to post a couple 
of GESOs and more PESOs.


For now, here are 3 PESOs that didn't fit into any galleries, I 
guess they are just photos in my photo "shoebox"...


http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068> 



As usual (it goes without saying) feedback and comments would be 
appreciated.


Mitch






















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Re: Re: PESO - A Long time Coming...

[Mitch Conant]

 Ann:

I used to go to Vegas for a yearly networking (computer) trade show. The 
last 3 years that I went, I went on the Friday before the show. Arrived 
and went to Utah for the weekend. I stumbled on Zion the first year 
(without my cameras) but turned those weekends into photo excursions for 
the last 2. Hence, I haven't been to everything I want to see 
(Canyonlands and Arches).


What's Capitol Reef all about? As I recall, it didn't capture my 
imagination when I heard about it all those years ago ...


Mitch


On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I have a slew of 'em myself...   We might have passed each other on a 
trail here and there :-)


You didn't meniotn Canyonlands or Arches -- was that just for the sake 
of brevity?


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:


 Ann:

Thanks for the input. I had SAMs Club convert a couple hundred slides 
that I shot in the early 90's; with my ME & MX. This was one of them. 
I'm planning to post these as GESO(s). I have photos from Zion, 
Bryce, Cedar Breaks, Kodachrome Basin and Rocky Mountain N.P.


You are right ... southern Utah is one of my FAVORITE places!

Mitch



On 1:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I particularly like the Zion shot... wonderful BW conversion...   
and - well hell, it's one of my favorite places.



The other two are certainly well done, but don't say much to me... 
too much just like an exercise in technique.


ann

Mitchell Conant wrote:

 Tried sending this last night but it never was posted to the list. 
Let's try it again...


After a long, cold winter of working on my photo album webpage and 
associated management utilities; I have a bunch of stuff from 2010 
and 2011 to post. In the near future I hope to post a couple of 
GESOs and more PESOs.


For now, here are 3 PESOs that didn't fit into any galleries, I 
guess they are just photos in my photo "shoebox"...


http://www.mme-ia.net/cgi/pdml/pdml-peso-index.php?urlyear=2011&urlphotos=20110064,20110066,20110068 
 



As usual (it goes without saying) feedback and comments would be 
appreciated.


Mitch















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Re: Punctuation

[Mitch Conant]

hey whats the big deal ee cummings did it years ago with his poetry and 
became known for it whts next a discushun ov fonetic speling im going 
bak to luk at snoflaks  oops r the < nd > kunsidrd punktooashun

mitch

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>Recently a few messages here "discussed" the value of using good
>punctuation and grammar in email messages.  One of the participants made
>comments to the effect that communication via email and on message boards
>and mail lists was not important enough for him to take the time to add
>apostrophes and other forms proper punctuation.
>
>With that thought in mind, imagine finding a very good example of why it
>may be worthwhile to proof read your messages for clarity and intent.
>
>http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6383383
>
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>
>  
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[Mitch Conant]

David:

>An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite 
>heavily:
>

Now, that's funny!!! Hey I'll admit I'm not part of the PC (politically 
correct) crowd . It is almost as funny as this one (I think it was 
Aussie):

http://www.mme-ia.com/humor/video/lv03.mpg

Easily entertained...
Mitch

David Savage wrote:

>It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up.
>
>An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite 
>heavily:
>
>
>
>>From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in 
>>Oz.
>
>I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-)
>
>Dave
>
>On 10/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness.
>>
>>To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to
>>be this parlance that is more British English than American English,
>>though. To call something a "nasty little bugger" is often used in
>>American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance,
>>or "cute little bugger" is a form of curmudgeonly endearment.
>>
>>
>
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Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?

[Mitch Conant]

Aw common!

The scarring from the first time around just healed and look what comes 
back up.

Mitch

David Savage wrote:

>Is this the one?
>
>
>
>
>
>Dave
>
>On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's
>>portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look
>>like some kind of glam shots.
>>
>>Does anyone still remember, and have a link?
>>
>>
>
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Mitch Conant]

Ann:

Good choice on the DELL. I've used Dell for several business clients, 
they all seem to be happy with them.

I too, use AVG and LOVE it. I put it on client PCs, use it on all 3 of 
my workstations (Win 98SE, NT 4.0 and Win2000) as well as my Win2000 
server and my Linux server. I have never had anything get through 
(feverishly looking for wood to knock on). I think that as part of the 
installation process on the Dell, you have the option of installing 
Norton Anti-Virus. I wouldn't do it, I would get AVG from the link below.

Someone else in this thread mentioned a firewall. I have always used the 
Linksys Firewall/Switch. The firewall is a BIG part of your security, 
the Switch would allow you to connect the 2 computers (if you have an 
ethernet port in the old computer - $10.00-$15.00) and share Internet, 
Printers, Scanner, etc.Some people swear by the software firewall, 
Iswear by the hardware. I do so because a software firewall is 
suceptible to the same issues as other software (crashes, being unloaded 
behind the scenes, not being loaded at startup, being hacked 
(IMO)...etc...). See the link below.

Let me know if you need the Win98SE disk...

Have fun,
Mitch

AVG Free Version: http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1
Linksys Firewall/Switch:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/Search.do?c=1&context=99021825&keyword=befsr41&searchSection=All&go.x=0&go.y=0
 



Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>Sigh -
>
>this is what I'm getting
>Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB
>DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
>
>It should be here by Oct 5th.
>Comments on this machine?
>
>
>My young friend is coming over today to help me with the
>failed usb port situation
>on the old puter...
>
>ann
>
>  
>



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Re: OT - Freelance Life, Here I Come

[Mitch Conant]

Cotty:

Congrats...don't foget us on the list, keep yourphotos coming!

By the way drink one for me also...what the heck drink a couple (a good 
Oatmeal Stout will do ).

Mitch

Cotty wrote:

>A few of you have been following my professional events, and would just
>like to say that this evening I had a call I have been waiting nearly
>three weeks for.
>
>I have been offered a contract with ITV News as a cameraman for the new
>ITV Thames Valley News service to be launched in December here in the
>UK. I leave the staff of same at the end of November. My company is
>called Seeing Eye Productions and will start trading soon.
>
>This is great news for me because it guarantees my attendance at GFM07 :-)
>
>Time for a lil drink*parp*
>
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Re: Just shoot me...

[Mitch Conant]

Ann:

I would be glad to help you out. Just need to know where to send the CD. 
I will also include a CD with any updates from the Microsoft site.

I have a Lodge meeting tonight, if it's not too late I'll get things 
ready to mail tomorrow.

Thanks,
Mitch

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>So can anyone sendme a disk for windoze 98se?
>
>We got a usb pci 2.0 card - couldn't install driver
>because it was only for Se and though I thought SE was on
>the
>computer apparently it crashed.
>
>I can't remember how I got SE to begin with.
>
>we tried to download up grade and it didn't like by firefox
>settings or my explorer
>
>Have to somehow get the usp ports to work so I can use the
>scanner and connect the camera
>or I'm dead. the printer, too. ugh
>
>at the moment
>
>off to scrabble
>need r and r
>
>sigh
>annsan
>
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>


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Re: PESO: Moon Over Duomo, Milan

[Mitch Conant]

Joe:

AWESOME!!! I love the totally black sky...

Thanks for sharing,
Mitch

Joseph Tainter wrote:

>http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/4404/display/6739171
>
>Pure serendipity. Late on the night of our arrival, jet-lagged and very 
>tired, my wife and I stepped out the Galleria Vittorio Emanuele and saw 
>this sight.
>
>Comments welcome.
>
>Joe
>
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Re: My New Webpage for PDML Submissions

[Mitch Conant]

Tim:

Thanks for the input comments.

You're the 2nd or 3rd one to mention the borders.I'm going to play 
around with them to see how things look. At first I didn't it would look 
right with light grey on medium grey, but I love it and it doesn't 
detract from the photo content (I originally had the text as 
red/scarlet). I also want to try re-arranging the data parts of each 
picture in the gallery (index).

As the page grows larger??? H . I haven't decided the 
details...yet. Possibly, by month. That would probably suffice for me. 
Or... I could display the gallery page in chunks of 5-6 photos and then 
recursively "call" the page with a different starting photo number. If I 
used the month idea I would probably incorporate it as a column in the 
SQL table so that I can do specific selects . I would then add a month 
drop down select list on the top level PDML page. I'd have to think 
about it...

I forgot to get rid of the link borders. You're right Title and Text 
would be appropriate on the viewer page, and with the wonders of SQL...

Navigation controls are on the list. I would like to figure out a way to 
figure out what the referring page was, dynamically. I can't find any 
PHP variables (Globals, etc.) that would let me determine "from whenceI 
came". I could store the HOST and PHP_SELF in session variables and grab 
them, but for that to be effective every page that called the viewer 
would have to know to set these variables. Why do this? I could then 
have a generic go back nav control and go back to a PESO, GESO or PAW 
gallery or any other page dynamically. I have the flexibility to call 
the viewer or gallery page and request the photo(s) to display from any 
page or email by sending a GET request with the appropriate variables 
set. Ann sent me some comments and included a comment on one of the 
photos. All she had to do was put in the comment and include a link with 
the variables and she sent me back to my own photo using my viewer. 
Kinda cool. I also do this with the gallery page. If I send a GET 
request with the "urlphotos=photo1,photo2,...photoN" variable set, the 
gallery will only contain those photos. Ah, the wonders of the 
WHERE...IN... clause of the SELECT statement! You'll see it in the code, 
I conditionally build the SELECT statement and let MySQL give me the 
specific photos.

To add new photos right now, I create the thumbnail, web friendly and 
full size photos and copy them to the web folder. I then add the entries 
to the SQL tables (2). The PHP takes care of the pages. I like the fact 
that I can transfer photos and the page doesn't see them until I add 
them in SQL.

I might consider doing some Admin pages. I did the Admin pages for a 
Jokes page that I was maintaining. I created forms to add text, picture, 
audio and video jokes. As part of that process I did an upload page. I 
also did some Admin pages for a local realtor that also included 
functions that automatically created thumbnail and medium sized versions 
of the photos that she uploaded. I might go pillage that code and do a 
couple of Admin pages for this site.

I'll send the PHP code and MySQL "dump" info to your email. I don't want 
to clutter the list...

Sorry this was so wordy,
Mitch

Tim Øsleby wrote:

>Not bad Mitch. I like the colours. But I think you could get rid of some of
>the frames. 
>I like the comments at the gallery page. I think I'd prefer some rearranging
>of the text. How about title first at a single line, text next, and then
>posted info?
>
>What do you intend to do when the page grows larger? Diving it into sub
>pages? 
>
>One more suggestion is to add the text at the photo viewer page. Also get
>rid of the blue framing. It's a distraction IMO. 
>
>One more suggestion is to make a link at view page leading to next picture. 
>In PHP that's simple, just add a +1 routine. Guess you know how to do it,
>but if you need help, just ask.
>
>How do you add new pictures? Have you created an automated routine?
>
>I would love to see the files under the hood. Both PHP and MySQL. 
>
>
>Tim
>Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>Mitch Conant
>Sent: 22. september 2006 06:26
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: My New Webpage for PDML Submissions
>
>PDMLers:
>
>Yeah, I could've used a canned package, but where is the challenge in 
>that??? 
>
>It was cloudy and rainy today, so I finished up a little project that I 
>was working on. Over the past 2 days I put together a quick series of 
>web pages that allow me to easily give people access to all of my PESOs 
>(and hopefully GESOs and possibly PAWs). I have a page to access all of 
>the photos and the same page all

Re: My New Webpage for PDML Submissions

[Mitch Conant]

Ann:

You, Godfrey and Shel are right, the red was too much. I changed the 
colors of the text to a very light grey and I like it much better. It 
seems to distract less from the content and photos...

Thanks for the feedback on the load times...we are an impatient lot .

Welcome to the Broadband world! Once you're on high speed, you can never 
go back! 

I have not published any GESOs or PAWs, yet. I just published my first 
PESO last week .

I'm going to Lowe's to look for some sort of brackets to mount a rod to 
hang backdrops from. To get the picture of my Pentax equipment (for the 
front PDML Photo page) I used push pins to tack the edge of the backdrop 
ot the cornice moulding and then draped the backdrop over the ironing 
board with the roll on the floor. It worked, but there has to be a 
better way; for pennies .

Thanks and have a good weekend,
Mitch


Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>Mitch _ I'm on dial-up though getting cable connection next
>week...
>I agree with Godfrey about the colors -- although I love
>grey and red as a fashion look,
>I'd can the colors altogether.  I like the grey bacground,
>easy on the eyes.
>
>Like the set-up and presentation loads pretty damn fast,
>too
>
>but only the PESO came up  no pAW or Geso
>
>Also - the tab saying SUBMIT instead of ENTER or VIEW or
>something 
>confused me for a minute --  I thought it was asking me to
>submit an image.
>
>ann
>
>Mitch Conant wrote:
>  
>
>>Godfrey:
>>
>>Thanks for the input. The red on grey (especially the straight text) IS
>>terrible to read. This is the first go around, I was going to add some
>>CSS to help manage those things. The wife has to work this weekend, I
>>think I'll play around with that. The comment about r-g colorblind is
>>well taken.
>>
>>Any thoughts on colors to go with the middle grey? In addition to the
>>colors, I'll play around with the borders on the Viewer page. I kinda
>>like the organization that they give to the Index page.
>>
>>Hey, thanks for your ideas!
>>Mitch
>>
>>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I'm on ADSL/broadband so I can't help you with performance questions.
>>>
>>>The layout is nice. The colors you're using for text, borders, etc
>>>are terrible. Red text against middle gray is hard to read and could
>>>be invisible to anyone who is red-green colorblind.
>>>
>>>I'm not so fond of having everything have borders, stylistically. I'd
>>>turn borders off.
>>>
>>>Godfrey
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Mitch Conant wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>It was cloudy and rainy today, so I finished up a little project
>>>>that I
>>>>was working on. Over the past 2 days I put together a quick series of
>>>>web pages that allow me to easily give people access to all of my
>>>>PESOs
>>>>(and hopefully GESOs and possibly PAWs). I have a page to access
>>>>all of
>>>>the photos and the same page allows me to cleanly present new PESOs to
>>>>list members.
>>>>
>>>>I am on Broadband and sometimes lose sight of how things run over
>>>>dial-up. If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes, please
>>>>try the
>>>>following links out and give me some feedback on speed, I would
>>>>appreciate it. Everything is accomplished by server side scripting
>>>>(PHP), no JavaScript.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: My New Webpage for PDML Submissions

[Mitch Conant]

Godfrey:

Thanks for the input. The red on grey (especially the straight text) IS 
terrible to read. This is the first go around, I was going to add some 
CSS to help manage those things. The wife has to work this weekend, I 
think I'll play around with that. The comment about r-g colorblind is 
well taken.

Any thoughts on colors to go with the middle grey? In addition to the 
colors, I'll play around with the borders on the Viewer page. I kinda 
like the organization that they give to the Index page.

Hey, thanks for your ideas!
Mitch

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>I'm on ADSL/broadband so I can't help you with performance questions.
>
>The layout is nice. The colors you're using for text, borders, etc  
>are terrible. Red text against middle gray is hard to read and could  
>be invisible to anyone who is red-green colorblind.
>
>I'm not so fond of having everything have borders, stylistically. I'd  
>turn borders off.
>
>Godfrey
>
>
>On Sep 21, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Mitch Conant wrote:
>
>  
>
>>It was cloudy and rainy today, so I finished up a little project  
>>that I
>>was working on. Over the past 2 days I put together a quick series of
>>web pages that allow me to easily give people access to all of my  
>>PESOs
>>(and hopefully GESOs and possibly PAWs). I have a page to access  
>>all of
>>the photos and the same page allows me to cleanly present new PESOs to
>>list members.
>>
>>I am on Broadband and sometimes lose sight of how things run over
>>dial-up. If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes, please  
>>try the
>>following links out and give me some feedback on speed, I would
>>appreciate it. Everything is accomplished by server side scripting
>>(PHP), no JavaScript.
>>
>>
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Re: My New Webpage for PDML Submissions

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Thibouille:

Thanks for the  comments. Was it fast (my number one goal)? Are you on 
dialup or broadband?

Thanks,
Mitch

Thibouille wrote:

>Hey thisis a really great job, Mitch.
>Bookmarked !
>
>2006/9/22, Mitch Conant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  
>
>>PDMLers:
>>
>>Yeah, I could've used a canned package, but where is the challenge in
>>that??? 
>>
>>It was cloudy and rainy today, so I finished up a little project that I
>>was working on. Over the past 2 days I put together a quick series of
>>web pages that allow me to easily give people access to all of my PESOs
>>(and hopefully GESOs and possibly PAWs). I have a page to access all of
>>the photos and the same page allows me to cleanly present new PESOs to
>>list members.
>>
>>I am on Broadband and sometimes lose sight of how things run over
>>dial-up. If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes, please try the
>>following links out and give me some feedback on speed, I would
>>appreciate it. Everything is accomplished by server side scripting
>>(PHP), no JavaScript.
>>
>>For those of you that like playing with things like this, I would be
>>glad to send you the HTML, PHP Code and MySQL Table layouts. It's the
>>least I could do in return for some feedback .
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Mitch
>>
>>For access to all PESO posts:
>>http://www.mme-ia.com/pdml/
>>
>>For new PESO posts:
>>http://www.mme-ia.com/cgi/pdml/pdml-index.php?urlcat=PESO&urlyear=2006&urlphotos=20060006,20060007,20060008
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My New Webpage for PDML Submissions

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PDMLers:

Yeah, I could've used a canned package, but where is the challenge in 
that??? 

It was cloudy and rainy today, so I finished up a little project that I 
was working on. Over the past 2 days I put together a quick series of 
web pages that allow me to easily give people access to all of my PESOs 
(and hopefully GESOs and possibly PAWs). I have a page to access all of 
the photos and the same page allows me to cleanly present new PESOs to 
list members.

I am on Broadband and sometimes lose sight of how things run over 
dial-up. If you wouldn't mind taking a couple of minutes, please try the 
following links out and give me some feedback on speed, I would 
appreciate it. Everything is accomplished by server side scripting 
(PHP), no JavaScript.

For those of you that like playing with things like this, I would be 
glad to send you the HTML, PHP Code and MySQL Table layouts. It's the 
least I could do in return for some feedback .

Thanks in advance,
Mitch

For access to all PESO posts:
http://www.mme-ia.com/pdml/

For new PESO posts:
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Re: Peso - Spooky

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Ken:

I like it. I like the contrast between the wall and the branches...

I love the canyons of Utah! Any pictures of Zion, Cedar Breaks or Bryce???

Mitch

Kenneth Waller wrote:

>Check out 
>http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
>Taken a few years ago.
>
>Comment appreciated 
>
>Kenneth Waller
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Re: OT - Xfer Vinyl to CD

[Mitch Conant]

Shel:

The way I have mine set up is this:

Turntable (with Magnetic Cartridge) into phono pre-amp ($25.00 from 
RadioShack) See It Here 

Pre-amp into Aux inputs on sound card via Right/Left RCA to stereo mini 
plug ($5.00 from RadioShack). See It Here 

Software that allows you to capture from the Aux jack (could be 
turntable or cassette deck) I use Audio Cleaning Lab (Magix).

ACL allows me to burn directly to CD or break up into MP3 files. I 
transfer more music so I will burn an image of the full album verbatim 
and will also save individual songs as MP3s. The MP3 format allows me to 
put the songs on a player or burn a disk of MP3 files to play in the car.

The reason you need a pre-amp for a turntable with a magnetic cartridge 
is because the Aux input requires what is referred to as Line Level 
input. The magnetic cartridge turntable puts out a higher quality lower 
level signal.

Any software will probably have pre-built filters to cleanup 
pops/crackles, rumble, etc. ACL was only like $29.00.


Let me know if you have any questions.

Mitch

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>Once again, taking advantage of the font of knowledge on this list:  A
>friend has some records that she wants to xfer to CD.  How can this best be
>done?  What gear is needed?  The records are spoken voice, so highest
>quality is not necessary.  Just some old comedy records that are not
>available on CD.
>
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Re: PESO - Snowbird in the Sun

[Mitch Conant]

I Like it, but I always liked the stuff that borders on the ethereal 
(sp?)...

Nice shot!

Mitch

Adam Maas wrote:

>I just got my film back from the 13 rolls I shot at the Canadian 
>International Air Show on Labour Day. This is by far the best frame from 
>the airshow
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/246978599/
>
>And larger for non-Flickrites:
>
>http://static.flickr.com/98/246978599_8fcecda000_b.jpg
>
>'twas with my Nikon F3 though.
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PESO - The Sentinel Reworked...

[Mitch Conant]

I reworked The Sentinel with some inspiration from Paul and 2 pints of 
Oatmeal Stout . I cropped the subject a little tighter in this shot 
(thanks for the suggestion Paul). I also increased the contrast slightly 
(thanks Oatmeal Stout).

I like the results, especially getting that distracting greenery out of 
the way, I wish I could've gotten it all.

The Sentinel v.2 
 The large file.
The Sentinel v.2 
 The small file.

Thanks,
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Re: PESO - New Yorker DeLuxe

[Mitch Conant]

Shel:

I like it. Car pictures from an unusual vantage point are interesting to 
me. I'm not proficient with cloning tools, but if what looks like a 
baseball backstop (left background) and the power pole over the 
taillight fin could be cloned out, it would be better.

I like it.

Thanks for sharing,
Mitch

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/nydeluxe.html
>
>Tech details: Sony DSC-S85
>
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Re: PESO: Rue de l'acier

[Mitch Conant]

Ralf:

I really like this one. I like the composition and lighting, but the 
thing that grabs my eye are the color renditions. The sign on the side 
of the building, the front of the building and especially the midnight 
blue of the sky.

I love "urban landscape" shots. There's so much there to be 
photographed, with and without humans!

Thanks for sharing,
Mitch

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

>Home improvement, Belgian style:
>
>http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1651420
>
>Your comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome.
>
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Infared Techniques Questions...

[Mitch Conant]

I have seen other posts concerning IR photography and I seem to recall 
some of us experimenting with it.

I was out playing around with my 72R IR filter yesterday afternoon. I 
wasn't overly satisfied with my results. It was really windy, coupled 
with long exposure times the leaves on the trees came out looking like 
cotton, instead of leaves.

I seemed to notice the following patterns:

--  The results seem to be better if shooting in full (harsh) daylight. 
Shooting in/into shadows can produce muddled results.

--  Tweaking the contrast in the final image seems to help.

--  A tripod is a must since you have to set up the shot (in the 
viewfinder) without the filter, then put the filter on while being 
careful not to move the camera. I'm also having to use 6-8 sec. exposure 
times at f11.

--  There seems to be no way to setup the shot with the filter on...right?


Does anyone have any pointers on shooting IR photos??? I have an old 
Presbyterian church that I want to shoot. The IR technique would produce 
the "frosted" effect on the surrounding trees/grass, and make the sky 
nice and dark (some nice white clouds would be a nice touch).

Thanks,
Mitch


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PESO - My First Submissions ... Smaller Files

[Mitch Conant]

This post is for the members with slower dial-up lines. Sorry for your 
frustrations with my big file sizes. I will be working on a web page 
template that allows you to choose which format (large or small) you 
would like to view. I will do it with all server side PHP, no JavaScript 
(for Mark and others)...

Controlling file size is one of the lessons that I learned from my first 
post . I have created "Web friendly" versions of the original photos. 
All file sizes are <= 200k and meet the 950 x 700 size recommendation.

The Sentinel 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/thesentinel-sm2.jpg> 35mm, f5.6, 
200 ASA, 1/10
Early Morning Park #2 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/earlymorningpark2-sm2.jpg> 18mm, 
f11, 200 ASA, 1/250
Early Morning Park #3 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/earlymorningpark3-sm2.jpg> 31mm, 
f11, 200 ASA, 1/500
Edge of the World 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/edgeoftheworld-sm2.jpg> 45mm, 
f11, 200 ASA, 1/60
Urban Sprawl 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/urbansprawl-sm2.jpg> 55mm, f11, 
200 ASA, 1/180

Thanks in advance for the input...

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PESO - 3 More Urban Landscapes

[Mitch Conant]

I spent a couple hours out after sundown last night.

These are the 3 that I like the best. All of them were shot with my DS. 
The details common to all photos are:

Manual Mode
1600 ASA
JPG *** Mode
Converted to B/W (or Sepia) in camera

Please note that I have posted both the larger files (1024 x ???) and 
smaller files (950 x ???); the file name suffixes are "-sm" and "-sm2" 
respectively. I have also included the file sizes in the photo details. 
I have also included some questions/comments for each photo.


After Hours <http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/afterhours-sm.jpg>  
597k, 35mm, f11, 1/4
After Hours <http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/afterhours-sm2.jpg>  
143k, 35mm, f11, 1/4
Comments:  If you look in the shadowed are behind the dumpsters (on the 
left) there is some noise in the image. The noise looks like the grain 
produced when I would push 400 ASA B/W film to 800 or 1600 ASA. Is this 
"noise" the same as the noise generated at 3200 ASA (as discussed on 
this list)? I will probably reshoot this photo at 200 or 400 ASA to try 
to get a sharp photo.


Memories of the 60's 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/memoryof60s-sm.jpg> 499k, 43mm, 
f11, 0.7 sec
Memories of the 60's 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/memoryof60s-sm2.jpg> 101k, 43mm, 
f11, 0.7 sec
Comments:  Smulekoff's is the oldest department store in Cedar Rapids, 
IA. It is the only one that stayed downtown. It is a store like the ones 
that I remember going to with my Grandmother in the 60's in Akron, 
OH...an old building, an old style sign and real product displays in the 
windows. That said, sepia toning seemed to lend an "antique" feeling to 
the photo. This is the total opposite of the Wal-Marts and Target stores 
of this century. There seems to be no or minimal "noise" in this shot.


Untitled  <http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/untitled-sm.jpg> 293k, 
18mm, f11, 1/8
Untitled  <http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/untitled-sm2.jpg> 77k, 
18mm, f11, 1/8
Comments:  I'm at a loss for a title for this one; "Starway to 
Somewhere...", I suppose. If you look at the full size version, you will 
see some of the same noise as in the "After Hours" photo. I would have 
liked this one to be sharp as well.

Thanks in advance for the input...

Mitch Conant
Cedar Rapids, Iowa


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Test

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Just a test ... My last 3 posts did not hit the list ...

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PESO: My First Submissions.

[Mitch Conant]

PDML List Members:

I hope that I did this right...

I have been admiring the work that everyone has been posting on this 
list. It has been both entertaining and inspiring. I am only an amateur 
(sp?), but I'll go ahead and post these for comments. They are uncropped 
and unaltered and the composition was done in the viewfinder.

All images were made with an *ist DS with the original DA 18-55 lens ( I 
have also been playing around with other lenses and equipment from my 
ME/MX). All of these JPGs were made from the original 3008 x 2008 RAW 
files.

The Sentinel <http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/thesentinel-sm.jpg> 
35mm, f5.6, 200 ASA, 1/10
Early Morning Park #2 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/earlymorningpark2-sm.jpg> 18mm, 
f11, 200 ASA, 1/250
Early Morning Park #3 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/earlymorningpark3-sm.jpg> 31mm, 
f11, 200 ASA, 1/500
Edge of the World 
<http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/edgeoftheworld-sm.jpg> 45mm, 
f11, 200 ASA, 1/60
Urban Sprawl <http://www.mme-ia.net/images/peso/2006/urbansprawl-sm.jpg> 
55mm, f11, 200 ASA, 1/180

Thanks in advance for the input...

Mitch Conant
Cedar Rapids, Iowa


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*ist DS / Ref Converter Questions...

[Mitch Conant]

Greetings:

Has anyone seen this particular Ref Converter?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29968&item=752044
9926&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting)

If so, do you know if it will fit on an ME/MX or an *ist DS? All we have
to go on is the eBay listing is the fact that it will fit a K1000, hence
the first question . If my memory serves me well (enough) I seem to
remember my K1000 viewfinder accessories fitting on my ME and MX.

Now for the logic (flawed as it may be)...

My viewfinder cover for the ME seems to fit on the DS, hence I'm
thinking that if the Ref Converter works on the ME/MX it stands a chance
of working on the DS.


The unknowns are do the optics and sight path on the Ref Converter line
up with the DS viewfinder correctly? What about any distortions in the
viewfinder (such as vignetting)?

Thanks,
Mitch