Re: Big-telephoto advice
The multi coating is not that big a deal if you follow the the usual precautions of not shooting into a light source and use a good lens hood. However the later lenses, those which are the same optical formulas as the subsequent [K] mount lenses are usually better than the same focal length of an earlier design. That's kind of a duh comment, but it is something to keep in mind. The Super Takumar lenses coatings were excellent and are still better than many manufactures mulit-coatings. Tim Bray wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Tim, A screwmount SMC Pentax 300mm f4 or 400mm f5.6 would be great Most everyone else passes on these as too old, their problem! Those 300 screwmounts (under the Takumar name, right?) are all over the place in the non-SMC version, harder to find with the SMC. How big a deal is the coating? -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM Trivia
Naa, didn't nead to, I bit the doctor... -Original Message- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 5:44 AM To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM Trivia On 8/2/09, Peter Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: You forgot to slap him. When Peter was born they slapped his face. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan
Only if we let them, sadly we do. Say Luis how do you know if a politician is lying? -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Feb 8, 2009 4:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan Peter, that's Darwinism, government-style - the survival of the most interesting campaign funders. LF As far as any government is concerned, the risk is ours, the rewards are theirs. And even if they don't screw up, the bill is on us. Peter Alling escreveu: The problem was separating risk from reward, those who took the risks were rewarded no matter what the outcome. The CEO's who should have reined it in would be rewarded anyway, the risks were often hidden and sold as safe investments to dupes, often with government connivance. -Original Message- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 6:03 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan 2009/2/6 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: Ok, maybe I'm just heavy-handed, but I'm willing to try tar and feathers, or perhaps exposing in stocks as reward for the too-wise-politician and too-fearsome-economist. Well... I'm certainly no economist, but I got the impression that excessive risk-taking, particularly with other people's money, was one of the main reasons why things got screwed this time. Again. Just like at the end of the YAP-age in -89. I'd cheer a precise administration of tar and feathers though. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan
Why should the Republicans vote for the stimulious package? Especially if they don't think it is one. The CBO (Congressional Budget Office), anaylisis is not encouraging about it's stimulating effect, in fact they think it may inhibit the recovery. It's a Congres Critters job to not vote for stupid bills, as much or more than to vote for good bills, (and by that logic Democrat's shouldn't vote for it either, but hey, it's their bill). At a cost of $120,000 for every $30,000 job produced it's a bad deal for the taxpayer. My suggestion, just pay everone you can identify who would have gotten one of those jobs $60,000 and let them spend it. It's a better deal for the taxpayer, and would provide more stimulious, produce more jobs, and probably get those spenders real jobs faster. The Republicans are finally doing their job and you think it will end their party? You might be right, but if so it's the end of the country anyway. -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan Dave, Ours are equally stupid over here. The Republicans are like the little kids who threaten to hold their breath until they turn blue. They won't vote for the stimulus package. Think depression next and a proper burial for the Republican party. The Democrats are like kids in a candy store, stuffing every pocket with stimulus package money 'cause it's flowing. If Obama doesn't give them both a bad case of red ass, I'll be very disappointed. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: So the world economy is up Poo Creek. Governments around the world are proposing stimulus packages to try help dig their economy's out of it. Australia is no different. Earlier in the week the Prime Minister proposed a AU$ 42 billion stimulus package. This is now being debated in the Senate. Listening to some of the Senate hearings on the radio this morning one Senator asked a treasury official: What's so magical about the number 42? Stupid politician. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto 110 lenses on G1
Interesting, the Auto 110 lenses don't have aperture rings if I remember correctly so the adapter must be supplying one. I wonder how well that works. Classic_UnderstatementI don't read Chinese all that well./classic_understatement -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it Sent: Feb 8, 2009 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Auto 110 lenses on G1 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2009/02/09/10158.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Stimulus package
Marx was right unemployed workers are angry. But once again, the only reason Obama wants Republican votes is cover, so when it all fails he can say in this order, Still Bush's Fault We tried but didn't spend enough, and if that doesn't work, The Republicans agreed with us so it's their fault too. Of course he won't say those things, he has people for that. Look the administration could pass the damned Stimulus bill with one Republican voting for it in the Senate. They convinced three. Well good. When nothing gets better in the next year they can say it was bipartisan, (see my previous statement). I wish them luck with that. Especially when non-partisan watchdogs are already pointing out that the majority of the stimulus doesn't kick in until year four. Which given the course of most recessions, unless we are truly in another Great Depression will be long into a new expansion. As an asside of course it takes a lot of government action to produce a Great Depression, I'm beginning to believe that Obama and his people just might be up to it. The Republicans were right to vote no in the House. The Republicans in the Senate should have done the same thing. Maybe force a real stimulus package that would do some good at least, not just put the next generation into further debt. Most of the rest of the crap in the bill should considered be in seperate bills and voted for on it's own merits, it wasn't done that way because without an emergancy most of it wouldn't pass even with all three branches of government controled by the Democrats, and they know it. I don't bring these discussions to the list but I will respond. I'm not even a Republican, but I do agree with their principals, even if they don't seem to a lot of the time. -Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 6:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Stimulus package What Paul Said. ;+} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: OT - Stimulus package I think this should be taken off list or to a site where political discussion is encouraged. - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 4:50:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: OT - Stimulus package Peter, It sounds like Obama didn't do much of a job getting his party on board with the stimulus package. It sounds like way too much pork. But as a life long Barry Goldwater Republican, this crisis is the Republican's failure. It's the extreem swing of the pendilum from the Ronald Regan de-regulation initiative. Now despite all the good that came with the conservatives, we are headed back to FDR and socialism. The Republicans need to help make this problem go away as quick as possible, before everyone turns against them. Marx and Lenin will tell you that there is nobody as angry as an unemployed worker. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: Why should the Republicans vote for the stimulious package? Especially if they don't think it is one. The CBO (Congressional Budget Office), anaylisis is not encouraging about it's stimulating effect, in fact they think it may inhibit the recovery. It's a Congres Critters job to not vote for stupid bills, as much or more than to vote for good bills, (and by that logic Democrat's shouldn't vote for it either, but hey, it's their bill). At a cost of $120,000 for every $30,000 job produced it's a bad deal for the taxpayer. My suggestion, just pay everone you can identify who would have gotten one of those jobs $60,000 and let them spend it. It's a better deal for the taxpayer, and would provide more stimulious, produce more jobs, and probably get those spenders real jobs faster. The Republicans are finally doing their job and you think it will end their party? You might be right, but if so it's the end of the country anyway. -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan Dave, Ours are equally stupid over here. The Republicans are like the little kids who threaten to hold their breath until they turn blue. They won't vote for the stimulus package. Think depression next and a proper burial for the Republican party. The Democrats are like kids in a candy store, stuffing every pocket with stimulus package money 'cause it's flowing. If Obama doesn't give them both a bad case of red ass, I'll be very disappointed. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: So the world economy is up Poo Creek. Governments around the world are proposing stimulus packages to try help dig their economy's out
Re: OT - Stimulus package
Marx was right unemployed workers are angry. But once again, the only reason Obama wants Republican votes is cover, so when it all fails he can say in this order, Still Bush's Fault We tried but didn't spend enough, and if that doesn't work, The Republicans agreed with us so it's their fault too. Of course he won't say those things, he has people for that. Look the administration could pass the damned Stimulus bill with one Republican voting for it in the Senate. They convinced three. Well good. When nothing gets better in the next year they can say it was bipartisan, (see my previous statement). I wish them luck with that. Especially when non-partisan watchdogs are already pointing out that the majority of the stimulus doesn't kick in until year four. Which given the course of most recessions, unless we are truly in another Great Depression will be long into a new expansion. As an asside of course it takes a lot of government action to produce a Great Depression, I'm beginning to believe that Obama and his people just might be up to it. The Republicans were right to vote no in the House. The Republicans in the Senate should have done the same thing. Maybe force a real stimulus package that would do some good at least, not just put the next generation into further debt. Most of the rest of the crap in the bill should considered be in seperate bills and voted for on it's own merits, it wasn't done that way because without an emergancy most of it wouldn't pass even with all three branches of government controled by the Democrats, and they know it. I don't bring these discussions to the list but I will respond. I'm not even a Republican, but I do agree with their principals, even if they don't seem to a lot of the time. -Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 6:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Stimulus package What Paul Said. ;+} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: OT - Stimulus package I think this should be taken off list or to a site where political discussion is encouraged. - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 4:50:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: OT - Stimulus package Peter, It sounds like Obama didn't do much of a job getting his party on board with the stimulus package. It sounds like way too much pork. But as a life long Barry Goldwater Republican, this crisis is the Republican's failure. It's the extreem swing of the pendilum from the Ronald Regan de-regulation initiative. Now despite all the good that came with the conservatives, we are headed back to FDR and socialism. The Republicans need to help make this problem go away as quick as possible, before everyone turns against them. Marx and Lenin will tell you that there is nobody as angry as an unemployed worker. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: Why should the Republicans vote for the stimulious package? Especially if they don't think it is one. The CBO (Congressional Budget Office), anaylisis is not encouraging about it's stimulating effect, in fact they think it may inhibit the recovery. It's a Congres Critters job to not vote for stupid bills, as much or more than to vote for good bills, (and by that logic Democrat's shouldn't vote for it either, but hey, it's their bill). At a cost of $120,000 for every $30,000 job produced it's a bad deal for the taxpayer. My suggestion, just pay everone you can identify who would have gotten one of those jobs $60,000 and let them spend it. It's a better deal for the taxpayer, and would provide more stimulious, produce more jobs, and probably get those spenders real jobs faster. The Republicans are finally doing their job and you think it will end their party? You might be right, but if so it's the end of the country anyway. -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan Dave, Ours are equally stupid over here. The Republicans are like the little kids who threaten to hold their breath until they turn blue. They won't vote for the stimulus package. Think depression next and a proper burial for the Republican party. The Democrats are like kids in a candy store, stuffing every pocket with stimulus package money 'cause it's flowing. If Obama doesn't give them both a bad case of red ass, I'll be very disappointed. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: So the world economy is up Poo Creek. Governments around the world are proposing stimulus packages to try help dig their economy's out
Re: Auto 110 lenses on G1
Camera Quest has adapters for Kodak Retina Reflexes and Voightlander Reflexes with the same type of problem. Maybe it could be done. -Original Message- From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 9:22 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Auto 110 lenses on G1 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2009/02/09/10158.html Interesting, the Auto 110 lenses don't have aperture rings if I remember correctly so the adapter must be supplying one. I wonder how well that works. Classic_UnderstatementI don't read Chinese all that well./classic_understatement I ran it through Babelfish (it's Japanese, by the way) and I *think* they say the lenses can only be used wide open because the aperture is actually part of the camera, not the lens. This is rather unfortunate, since they aren't exactly the sharpest lenses in the world to begin with. I wonder how one could adapt the mount to allow some sort of manual control, or if it's even worth the effort. I'd imagine not. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book: Uploaded and underway
-Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 6:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML Book: Uploaded and underway I'll also be interested in the cost. What, you want to put a price tag on art ? ;+] Doesn't everyone? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PDML Book: Uploaded and underway In a message dated 2/8/2009 4:40:52 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, pentko...@gmail.com writes: Here, here. Your hard work is appreciated and I'm looking forward to seeing this. Dave == Ditto. I'll also be interested in the cost. Marnie :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto 110 lenses on G1
Kind of like the clasic New Yorker cartoon with the dog sitting in a chair at a table in a resteraunt and the waiter pointing at a no-dogs sign. The caption, I'm not smoking. -Original Message- From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 5:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Auto 110 lenses on G1 Being able to read Chinese wouldn't be much of an advantage on that site. DS 2009/2/9 Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com: Interesting, the Auto 110 lenses don't have aperture rings if I remember correctly so the adapter must be supplying one. I wonder how well that works. Classic_UnderstatementI don't read Chinese all that well./classic_understatement -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it Sent: Feb 8, 2009 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Auto 110 lenses on G1 http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/review/2009/02/09/10158.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: short tele primes
I bought one New in a Box for more than I should have spent, (and it was /like/ /new/ when I got it, only missing the original included dedicated case), and I find it to be a wonderful little lens. The prices on them tend to fluctuate quite a bit. These lenses were not meant to be extra sharp wide open but to produce pleasing portraits. Now with digital aps-c sized sensors they fall into the AOV of a traditional general purpose telephoto such as a 135mm would, where sharpness would be more of an issue. That doesn't invalidate the fact that the lens fulfills it's original purpose quite well, and still fulfills it's new purpose more than adequately. -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 7, 2009 10:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: short tele primes On 2/7/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: I had the M85/2. Got it very cheap as everyone seemed to feel it wasn't sharp, had poor bokeh, etc etc. I found it to be actually a rather nice lens. When I sold it, the average price I was seeing had more than doubled. The price on those lenses peaked a few years ago. They're cheaper now that I have one. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Crap Story
I find Doctoral Thesis endlessly amusing... -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Feb 7, 2009 7:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Crap Story ...strange things people do for living... LF Cotty escreveu: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7874679.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Crap Story
Sorry that should have been Doctoral Faeces that should clear things up... -Original Message- From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Sent: Feb 7, 2009 12:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Crap Story I find Doctoral Thesis endlessly amusing... -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Feb 7, 2009 7:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Crap Story ...strange things people do for living... LF Cotty escreveu: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7874679.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Crap Story
Sorry that should have been Doctoral Faeces that should clear things up... -Original Message- From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Sent: Feb 7, 2009 12:38 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Crap Story I find Doctoral Thesis endlessly amusing... -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Feb 7, 2009 7:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Crap Story ...strange things people do for living... LF Cotty escreveu: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7874679.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: short tele primes
That might depend on what camera you're going to use them on. If you're using film then the 135mm is a short tele. If you're using APS-C digital then the 135mm is a medium telephoto, not so good for indoor portraits. Of course I'm comming into this thread late so someone may have already mentioned this. -Original Message- From: Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 10:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: short tele primes That's very interesting. I'm not sure why I hadn't given more thought to the 135 lenses before. My first tele lens was a Sears 135/2.8 that was one of the sharpest lenses I've ever owned. You said yours are the M series? They are quite a bit less expensive than the others. I think that might be right up my alley. ;D ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: short tele primes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 3:15 AM They're a little bit longer than the range you mentioned, but I really like my M135s. I started out with the 3.5 http://flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157606933007213/ and liked shooting with it so much I got a 2.5: http://flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612665849907/ Those aren't the only lenses I was shooting with each of those nights. At the other end of the short tele scale is my FA77, but that's not an inexpensive lens: 135/3.5: http://flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/2794369036/in/set-72157606933007213/ 135/2.5: http://flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3205338605/sizes/l/in/set-72157612707149030/ I ought to sell my 135. I think I paid between $60 and $80 plus shipping. It is, however, a bit smaller than the 2.5, so I'm not trying too hard to sell it. I'm currently bidding on an M100/2.8 in Oz. It's up to AU $100, and I probably ought to save my money for the DFA 100/2.8 macro. -- It's not the steps in the dance, it's the dance in the steps. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: short tele primes
Ah, I should have read the whole thread before I posted. I actually have all of the lenses in question. The 120mm is a bit rare and pricy. The 100mm is very nice, and probably least expensive to buy. I used it a fair amoung on film, sharpest of the three at all apertures. The 85mm is now one of my most used lenses but as a general purpose telephoto on digital, a 50mm lens fulfills it's orginal purpose much better on digital. One of the bigest advantages of the 85mm is that it's really not much bigger than a 50 f1.4, most people don't realize it's a telephoto when you're taking candids. As others have mentioned you might want to look at a 135mm. As a focal length it's out of vogue right now, so you may be able to pick up even the semi-ledgendary [K] 135mm f2.5 relitively cheaply. Another alternate would be the [K] 135 f3.5. It's not as compact as the M-135mm but it's supposed to be sharper. It's a bit bigger without a built in lens hood and though relitively rare you can probably get one for the same price as the M in similar condition if you can find one. -Original Message- From: Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 9:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: short tele primes Hi, that's a great shot. Do you have any idea what aperture you shot that at? It's good to be back. I quit my last newspaper job several months back and have been taking something of a sabbatical concerning photography. I think I've finally worked out the residual stress from that job and am ready to start practicing photography for myself again. So today I placed an order for a Program Plus and a 50/2 from KEH. But I'm still trying to decide which of the teles I want to round out my kit hence the original question. Thanks for the reply. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Subject: Re: short tele primes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:32 AM On 2/6/09, Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking at getting a fast tele prime. I'm considering the M85/2, the M100/2.8, and the M120/2.8. What are your thoughts about these lenses? Does anyone have some samples (specifically portraits) that I could take a look at? Hi, Nick. Good to hear from you again. I have a copy of the M85/2, and I rather like it. This is the only photo I have online right now that was definitely taken with this lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3813278 HTH. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: short tele primes
I don't have anything on line with these taken on film but this is the 85mm shot on digital http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20roselovessweetie.html and a portrait as well... -Original Message- From: Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 9:04 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: short tele primes I'm looking at getting a fast tele prime. I'm considering the M85/2, the M100/2.8, and the M120/2.8. What are your thoughts about these lenses? Does anyone have some samples (specifically portraits) that I could take a look at? Thanks. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:
Pentax has a new strategy to get into big box stores and mass retailers. To do this they are dropping or significantly curtailing support for small specialty retailers. It would help if the big box stores actually carried their equipment, but that doesn't seem to be happening, even those that used to like Sears, Wal Mart, and in photography the Execrable Ritz Photo chain), seem to not have any, or in the case of Ritz made Pentax special order only. -Original Message- From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 2:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: One of the best budget DSLRs available? Well, I'm saying that the store that I have bought half of my Pentax equipment at (which is quite a bit) is no longer carrying Pentax. Essentially, the stores that were carrying Pentax fairly recently are no longer carrying them. The problem may have existed for a long time, but these are very recent events. It was interesting to note, I asked if I could order one, and both stores said no. So they are not even taking orders anymore. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2009, 11:33:43 AM, you wrote: JD That's been the charge against Pentax from as long ago as the JD early 80's. When I first moved to this area, I went in to the JD local camera shop only to be told that they didn't stock Pentax JD due to their high volume purchase requirements. JD I'm not familiar with their current policy in this regard, but JD whatever it is, it's hard to imagine it couldn't have been fixed long since. JD More than likely it's an excuse to put off Pentax shoppers in favor of Cankon spiffs. JD Jack JD --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: Re: One of the best budget DSLRs available? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:38 AM Even if Pentax makes a product to challenge the other makers, it is no challenge when it is so difficult to purchase. I just did a check in the Sacramento, California region to see if I could find a store that had one in stock. Seems that Pentax is all but gone from this region. The two main stores that had been stocking Pentax no longer do. They indicate Pentax requirements make it unreasonable to carry their products anymore. So for those who know the area, Pardee's and Action Camera are no longer dealing with Pentax. Sad to hear. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, February 6, 2009, 5:19:27 AM, you wrote: BW The Register reviewed and *really* likes the Pentax K-m (K2000). BW If the K-m doesn’t force other camera manufacturers to raise their game BW in the entry-level DSLR sector, we’ll eat our collective hats. BW http://snipurl.com/berte BW http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/06/review_digital_slr_camera_pentax_k_m/ BW -bmw BW -- BW PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List BW PDML@pdml.net BW http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net BW to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. JD JD -- JD PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JD PDML@pdml.net JD http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ebay question
It might not be fraud, but it does violate e-bay rules. What little actual protection you get from e-bay will be unavailable to you. -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 5:14 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: ebay question Fraud. Don't fall for it. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I had made $1432 (firing order, dontcha know) bid on some gear, a K20, 16-50, 50-135 and other goodies. I decided to drop out of the race and the auction went for $1800. I got a message, from yet another ebay account, saying that the person who won the auction didn't have the money, and they are offering it to me at the price I bid, please contact them at such and such an email address, where they need my ebay account, real name, address etc. so that they can go through ebay procedures to sell me the gear at the price I bid at, and they won't charge shipping. Why a different account? It's her husband's account. The account that was selling the gear has not responded to my queries. I'm about 87.3% convinced that someone is working a scam, though I'm not sure how they managed to contact me through ebay. Is there any reason that I shouldn't just report this to ebay's fraud department? If I should, who would I report it to? -- It's not the steps in the dance, it's the dance in the steps. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GFM Trivia
You forgot to slap him. -Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Feb 8, 2009 12:03 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GFM Trivia Hi Sally ! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Subject: GFM Trivia The Mrs was watching Forrest Gump for the first time - I had seen it years ago. Occasionally I glanced up, and in the sequence where he spends 3 years running across America, there is a 4 second shot of Forrest and his posse running up a curvy road with some pretty familiar scenery behind. I swore blind that it was GFM. Google confirmed it :-) The last line in 'Attractions': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_Mountain The part of the road in question is even called Forrest Gump Curve. Well slap my ass and call me Sally. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: short tele primes
I haven't checked KEH in a while, they tend to go with market conditions. The M-120 is relitively rare, but doesn't enjoy the reputation of the K-120. Last time I did look they were selling for more than $233. More like $200-400. But as in any market things change. It looks like they've just been sitting there for a while and KEH has reciently marked all three down. I'd say that they're all good prices for that lense considering their listed condition, and KEH is very conservitive in their claims. However the M-135 f3.5 is also listed for approximatly $60.00. So maybe they are pricy... -Original Message- From: Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 7, 2009 3:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: short tele primes I keep seeing people say the 120/2.8 is pricey. But KEH has three copies in stock right now between $133 and $235. I don't consider that particularly pricey, are we talking about the same lens? ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: short tele primes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 12:47 PM Ah, I should have read the whole thread before I posted. I actually have all of the lenses in question. The 120mm is a bit rare and pricy. The 100mm is very nice, and probably least expensive to buy. I used it a fair amoung on film, sharpest of the three at all apertures. The 85mm is now one of my most used lenses but as a general purpose telephoto on digital, a 50mm lens fulfills it's orginal purpose much better on digital. One of the bigest advantages of the 85mm is that it's really not much bigger than a 50 f1.4, most people don't realize it's a telephoto when you're taking candids. As others have mentioned you might want to look at a 135mm. As a focal length it's out of vogue right now, so you may be able to pick up even the semi-ledgendary [K] 135mm f2.5 relitively cheaply. Another alternate would be the [K] 135 f3.5. It's not as compact as the M-135mm but it's supposed to be sharper. It's a bit bigger without a built in lens hood and though relitively rare you can probably get one for the same price as the M in similar condition if you can find one. -Original Message- From: Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 9:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: short tele primes Hi, that's a great shot. Do you have any idea what aperture you shot that at? It's good to be back. I quit my last newspaper job several months back and have been taking something of a sabbatical concerning photography. I think I've finally worked out the residual stress from that job and am ready to start practicing photography for myself again. So today I placed an order for a Program Plus and a 50/2 from KEH. But I'm still trying to decide which of the teles I want to round out my kit hence the original question. Thanks for the reply. ~Nick David Wright http://pedalingprose.wordpress.com/ --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Subject: Re: short tele primes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:32 AM On 2/6/09, Nick Wright pedalingpr...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm looking at getting a fast tele prime. I'm considering the M85/2, the M100/2.8, and the M120/2.8. What are your thoughts about these lenses? Does anyone have some samples (specifically portraits) that I could take a look at? Hi, Nick. Good to hear from you again. I have a copy of the M85/2, and I rather like it. This is the only photo I have online right now that was definitely taken with this lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3813278 HTH. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
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They'll have to get them before the public to do well, that means getting them into big box stores, which doesn't seem to be happening. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 10:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: One of the best budget DSLRs available? On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The Register reviewed and *really* likes the Pentax K-m (K2000). If the K-m doesn't force other camera manufacturers to raise their game in the entry-level DSLR sector, we'll eat our collective hats. http://snipurl.com/berte http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/06/review_digital_slr_camera_pentax_k_m/ -bmw It looks like a perfect camera for someone who's intimidated by DSLRs but wants to take better photos than their PS will allow them to take. I don't see why Pentax won't do well with this one. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan
The problem was separating risk from reward, those who took the risks were rewarded no matter what the outcome. The CEO's who should have reined it in would be rewarded anyway, the risks were often hidden and sold as safe investments to dupes, often with government connivance. -Original Message- From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 6, 2009 6:03 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan 2009/2/6 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: Ok, maybe I'm just heavy-handed, but I'm willing to try tar and feathers, or perhaps exposing in stocks as reward for the too-wise-politician and too-fearsome-economist. Well... I'm certainly no economist, but I got the impression that excessive risk-taking, particularly with other people's money, was one of the main reasons why things got screwed this time. Again. Just like at the end of the YAP-age in -89. I'd cheer a precise administration of tar and feathers though. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
The 17mm fisheye isn't very fishey on APS-C either. It does evidence lots of barrel distortion, and it appears to be wider than the 1.5x crop would predict, mostly due to it's fisheye nature, field curvature isn't uniform across the frame, only in concentric circles... -Original Message- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony Thanks, Godfrey! Methinks your 17mm fisheye won't be very fishy on the 4/3 camera--won't it be the equivalent of 35mm on a 35mm camera? My F 17-24 fisheye isn't very fishy on the istD and K10D. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com Subject: Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:07 AM Both pretty cool photos. You've inspired me to dig out the Fish-Eye-Takumar 17mm f/4 and give it a go on the G1 today. I don't have a lot of time to do much shooting, but I'll give it a try at the cafe when I'm there for breakfast. Godfrey On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:23 AM, Rick Womer wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
I'd bet on the guy with the hat... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:42 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good ) On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207822_large.html Which one's Morris? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
I find it amusing that people who shoot Leicas and most likely have never been met anyone who lives in a trailer park, let alone live in one, would be those most offended... -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Feb 5, 2009 7:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux Thanks Christine. I think I'll convert the newer ones as well. I first showed them all as color, but later decided I preferred them as BW. In rendering the new batch I wanted to get the color as close to correct as possible as a first step. When I first showed this set on the Leica forum more than five years ago, it was titled Trailer Park Trash, and it caused quite an uproar and a long debate. The photos are all staged of course, so I never felt that title was demeaning, but it apparently offended some. Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: These are great, Paul, especially the bw, and most especially this one http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670843 Love it! Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed this GESO. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
Frank, you're the exception to most rules... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 10:42 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: I find it amusing that people who shoot Leicas and most likely have never been met anyone who lives in a trailer park, let alone live in one, would be those most offended... I have a Leica (which I haven't used since I went digital, but still...). Not only have I been to a trailer park, I have relatives who've lived in them. In Nova Scotia, no less, home of Trailer Park Boys. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
Tell them if it's so easy do it them selves and you'll print it for them. -Original Message- From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 10:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film-days - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Film-days Bill, Charge more for tricks. That is the idea. Unfortunately, we are living in an era where everyone with a computer is a self styled Photoshop master. We've had people want a trick post process but not want to pay for it because they could do it themselves in just a few minutes at home. It's the old Uncle George has a good camera so why am I paying a professional so much syndrome. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book Participants: Got a web site?
A whole lot. -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 5:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML Book Participants: Got a web site? We hate you... :-) On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Þráinn Vigfússon t...@vortex.is wrote: http://photo.net/photos/Thrainn%20Vigfusson - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: PDML Book Participants: Got a web site? We're in the final stages of getting the book together - Bill and Scott are contemplating the order of the photos as I write this (I hope!) - and I'm putting together the page that lists all the photographers. I'm going to list each photographer and contact information so that anyone who sees your work in the book and wants to offer you large sums of money for more of your work (it could happen...) has a way of reaching you. If you've got a blog, Photo.net account, Flickr account or a web site of your own, please email me with the URL and I'll include it. I've got a lot of you accounted for already, but not everyone... Only one URL per participant, please ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Cherry Blossom Time!
You sure it's not an impersonator? -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 5:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Cherry Blossom Time! He's with Yoko Ono... On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:32 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/4/2009 7:11:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, Just for you, the Cherry Blossoms in Washington, DC. http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/CherryBlossoms# Taken a few years ago when my daughter was in school there. (See if you can spot Cotty in the photos.) Regards, Bob S. === I remember these, or something similar. Very pretty. Is spotting Cotty is good thing? Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE:Pentaxlookspretty g...
Apparently that's the whole point... -Original Message- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 5:33 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE:Pentaxlookspretty g... I don't understand this thread. You mean I'm supposed to buy camera stuff, collect it all around me, test it, brag about it, sit in my solitary gear-glory, and never go out and USE it? Marnie ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi0001) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mock Tudor with a squirrel on top
I don't think that explains nealy enough. -Original Message- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sent: Feb 4, 2009 11:55 AM To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mock Tudor with a squirrel on top On 4/2/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: In especially like: http://www.web-options.com/Snow/content/_2020441_large.html Who's the statue with the telescope? Nelson with his eyepatch covered by snow? When I was a nipper, I would ask my father where are you going? and he would always reply: to see a man about a dog. I would then ask when will you be back? to which came the inevitable, when Nelson gets his eye back. This may explain my puzzled outlook on life to this day. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Book Participants: Got a web site?
Shouldn't that be; Doublyoos Doublyoos we don't need no stinkin' Doublyoos! (Just say it phonetically, with a bad Mexican Accent and you'll get it). -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 6:22 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML Book Participants: Got a web site? We you porbably do have me accounted for, but if not : http://annsan.smugmug.com (no ws needed ) Mark Roberts wrote: We're in the final stages of getting the book together - Bill and Scott are contemplating the order of the photos as I write this (I hope!) - and I'm putting together the page that lists all the photographers. I'm going to list each photographer and contact information so that anyone who sees your work in the book and wants to offer you large sums of money for more of your work (it could happen...) has a way of reaching you. If you've got a blog, Photo.net account, Flickr account or a web site of your own, please email me with the URL and I'll include it. I've got a lot of you accounted for already, but not everyone... Only one URL per participant, please ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Two from the Academy
Photography is a crap shoot, just be careful were you aim. It's certianly a crap shoot if you shoot lots of crap. -Original Message- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 11:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESOs - Two from the Academy On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:42 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: A month or two ago someone posted a photo of a guy in a cafe. His near arm was in focus while his face was not. Many people lauded the photo as great, while I did not. Now it's my turn sharing a photo with a face out of focus and an arm in and zero people seem interested in finding much good in it. I find this frustrating. Well, do YOU like the photo. That's all that matters.:-) I have posted photos here that many liked, but judges did not, and visa versa. Photography is a crap shoot, just be careful were you aim. Dave John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs - Two from the Academy
-Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 11:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESOs - Two from the Academy On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: snip Jackson Pollock does not telephone me to ask my opinions on his work - snip That would be because he's dead. ;-) Are you sure? Have you seen the body?\ cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
I'm not precisely sure but it may be that they may no longer be private parts once they've been referred to in a discussion group thread... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 9:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: Bob W wrote: My first reaction to the first one: hot! On seeing the second one, taken first, I am convinced that her expression in the first one (taken second) is an invitation ...to join the PDML and spend more time thinking about Frank's gonads. ... and cormorants. I can categorically state that this is the first time that my private parts and cormorants have been mentioned in the same thread. cheers, frank, starting to feel somewhat uneasy about all the attention being paid to his... ...never mind! -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
The thing I missed about the film days I missed long before they were over. I had for a long time an available darkroom for BW and could control printing, (and in fact with Cibachrome you could produce reasonably good prints from slides with the simplest darkroom setup, with a lot less control, but I digress). Digital, even partial digital, (i.e. scanning film, then processing the files with a computer), gave me back control of my output. -Original Message- From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk Sent: Feb 3, 2009 4:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Film-days Hello Sometimes I want the film-days back. Imagine how easy it is to shoot some film and have a good lab develop the prints. The lab will darken the too bright images, correct colors and brighten the to dark images. Then you choose the 10 % best and send them for scanning. Then you give the CD to your client. No more long hours at the computer converting or editing all your RAW files, tagging them, filing them, changing hard drives etc. for your images. Just give the client the prints and the CD. Get paid. End of story! Those where the days, ehh? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Feb 3, 2009 09:29 Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: Hello List I want a camera, that allows me to type in XMP data in the images before they are even taken. If I could walk out the door with my camera (Pentax K20D) for a wedding shoot for instance, and before hand type in “Weding, Julia George” in the camera in order to store such metatags in each image, that I take afterwards – I would be a happy photographer Even happier if it gave me the GPS/GEO codes as well. When will Pentax offer a GPS add on? Anyone? Regards Jens, Denmark -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gorgeous George
Connecticut had it's record snowfall not more than 5 years ago, IIRC. More than 100 inches in a season. I can't remember which year but the local authorities made a big deal about it. I think the City cited was Hartford, (the state capitol). I poked around a bit but couldn't find it cited anywhere... -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Sent: Feb 2, 2009 11:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Gorgeous George If you go to Weather Underground, go to the city or zip code of your choice, scroll down. On the left side you'll see an almanac link. 49 snowfall in Boston this season. 48.8 in Detroit. 8 in Kansas City Actual data may vary depending on which specific weather station you link to. Data not available for smaller cities. stan On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Ken Waller wrote: John, The number I stated was in the local paper (Detroit News), today. It's different from most data I've seen in that its by calendar year - they usually post seasonal data - ie, the winter of 08. The seasonal data for around here for 08 is approx 50 inches and that's for total accumulation - the sum of each day. I believe the NOOA weather data would be a good place to look for this stuff if you hadn't looked there already. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Gorgeous George Ken, You got me curious and I went looking for the metric for Boston. I can't find it, although I AM sure it exists somewhere. For 2008, the total snowfall appears to be about 85 in. I could not find any data for fall 2008 so this number doesn't include the fall of 08. I got that by adding the monthly recorded snowfall for January through March. This does not mean the total depth at any given time. There is another metric used by a weather watchers group, Snow depth days. I am not sure how that is measured but it sounds like the total depth of snow for any given day, including what may have fallen previously. But why does a seemingly simple question get so complicated so easily? Another puzzle for another day. John Graves WA1JG Ken Waller wrote: Glad to see you're enjoying the snow. We just had the snowiest year - Jan to Dec 08 in the history of record keeping, here in the Detroit area - something like 83 inches. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: Gorgeous George Snowy Greenwich this morning: http://www.web-options.com/GeorgeII.jpg I love those snow pictures. Keep them coming. Ralf Ask and it shall be given. I've added more to last night's gallery: http://www.web-options.com/Snow/ All the Canadians, Montanans, Alpens and so on will have to forgive me for making such a fuss about such a piddling amount of snow, but it's a rare thing in London. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
-Original Message- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 6:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Judging by her expression, I think you're lucky she didn't kick you in the gonads:-). I'm glad that so many of your were concerned for my safety! ;-) It's the spirit of the PDML, Frank. We're always thinking about your gonads. Lets see THAT on a shirt You could always special order one... Dave Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
Nose? -Original Message- From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 3:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare Damn. She wearing a ring! On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:28 , frank theriault wrote: Seconds before I took the shot I posted today, I took this one (which I've in no way processed, I'm just posting it to show the expression on her face): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
Hope springs eternal for somebody, I stopped doing very strange a few years ago. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 3:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: At the resolution presented I can't tell it's a ring or some other artifact. Severely cropped, full resolution, oversharpened, it looks like it might be a ring but not a wedding band or engagement ring that I've ever seen. http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/ring.html Hope springs eternal, guys! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--Blue and Red in Jericho
The paint is pretty bright as well... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 5:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO--Blue and Red in Jericho On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: From my (chilly) photo walk on Sunday, before the Great British Snowstorm: Blue: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8568743size=lg Red: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8568744size=lg Red, with the red car in front, is brilliant. The photo, not the paintjob... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso Red barn part II, now with Kreelm.
The Inuit supposedly have more than 100 words for snow... -Original Message- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 5:12 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Peso Red barn part II, now with Kreelm. Of course. What was I thinking.? But how can you discuss snow for half and hour? We've been talking about it for 3 days in London. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
At the resolution presented I can't tell it's a ring or some other artifact. -Original Message- From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Sent: Feb 3, 2009 2:20 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare On Feb 3, 2009, at 10:00 , Peter Alling wrote: Nose? Nope... Seen against her collar in the color shot. Engaged or married... -Original Message- From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 3:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare Damn. She wearing a ring! On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:28 , frank theriault wrote: Seconds before I took the shot I posted today, I took this one (which I've in no way processed, I'm just posting it to show the expression on her face): http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/blog-post.html Joseph McAllister Pentaxian http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gorgeous George
Nice but that kind of shot needs utmost precision in centering, you need to reshoot from about 1 foot to the right... -Original Message- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 11:06 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Gorgeous George Snowy Greenwich this morning: http://www.web-options.com/GeorgeII.jpg Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Finally back
I think I still have a Windows 3.0 install package on about 15 5 1/2 inch foppies, it came in the same package with the same version on about 7 3 1/2 inch disks, (I have no idea where those got to). I never even opened the plastic wrap. Those were the days... -Original Message- From: John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net Sent: Feb 2, 2009 11:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Finally back Peter, I'll make you a deal for my dos utility collection. It's only on 50 5 1/2 double sided disks. I'll throw in the disk cases cause you're such great guy! John Graves WA1JG Peter Alling wrote: I installed the old dual 3 1/4 = 5 1/2 inch half height drive in the most recient computer I built because you never know. I've even used the 5 1/2 inch drive recently... -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Finally back Thanks Dave, but I have my own. ;-) The computer I'm thinking about replacing still has 3.5 and 5.25 half height drives. It's my own 'way back machine'. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:38 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Bob., I still have my 3.1 disk's, want them.:-0 Dave On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, That sounds bad. I guess I'll postpone any new computer purchases for a while, or at least until Vista passes. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you know I've had 'puter problems lately. All programs started opening slowly with Windows Installer and I had no wireless internet connection. Doing a clean install of Vista and contacting tech support at RoarRunner things seem to be coming together slowly. I just need to familiarize myself with Vista. It appears PSE 5.0 doesn't want to load, but that's something to worl\k on later. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1930 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
I shall wash my mouth out with soap. Wouldn't that produce a bit more lather? -Original Message- From: Christian christ...@skofteland.net Sent: Feb 2, 2009 11:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: don't get yourself in a lather I shall wash my mouth out with soap. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
Franks? What about Beanz! -Original Message- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 12:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Stare On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: She appears to be wearing a right handed shooting jacket and she certainly has you in her sights. May be a good thing she wasn't armed. :( Franks could leg it out. Dave Jack --- On Mon, 2/2/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - The Stare To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 6:48 AM I think she noticed me: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/stare.html As a pre-emptive strike, I dislike the background, mostly because of the bright white thingie directly behind her head. I think I could tone it down considerably in PS, but with the freebie programme that I'm working with right now, I can't do much about it. I think it still works with that there, just not as well as it will work once that pesky background is toned down. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Gorgeous George
Dickens would be right at home... -Original Message- From: John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net Sent: Feb 2, 2009 12:16 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Gorgeous George Bob W wrote: Snowy Greenwich this morning: http://www.web-options.com/GeorgeII.jpg I love those snow pictures. Keep them coming. Ralf Ask and it shall be given. I've added more to last night's gallery: http://www.web-options.com/Snow/ All the Canadians, Montanans, Alpens and so on will have to forgive me for making such a fuss about such a piddling amount of snow, but it's a rare thing in London. Bob Bob..And it's white!from wonderful New ENGLAND. 8-10 inches tonight. John Graves -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1930 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All New Gear to Pentax for Repair
Alan Chan had that problem, I think Pentax maintains a list... -Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 1:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: All New Gear to Pentax for Repair I know that other brands also have problems with defects. But is it possible for a customer of those brands to have defects in all recent purchases? Yes. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: All New Gear to Pentax for Repair This morning I shipped to Pentax for repair all gear recently purchased: K20D: The sensor developed a cluster of pixels in white, along with a line bisecting this cluster and going across the entire image. This has ruined many of the photos that I took recently in Italy. DA* 50-135: One day in Italy it worked fine. The next day it wouldn't focus, either automatically or manually. (Yes, I cleaned the contacts, etc.) Shaft-drive seems still to work. This lens had taken fewer than 150 images. DA* 16-50: It has severe edge weakness at longer focal lengths. I suspect that this can't be corrected and that I will have to buy another one. The lenses are out of warranty. I know that other brands also have problems with defects. But is it possible for a customer of those brands to have defects in all recent purchases? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Finally back
I installed the old dual 3 1/4 = 5 1/2 inch half height drive in the most recient computer I built because you never know. I've even used the 5 1/2 inch drive recently... -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Finally back Thanks Dave, but I have my own. ;-) The computer I'm thinking about replacing still has 3.5 and 5.25 half height drives. It's my own 'way back machine'. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:38 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Bob., I still have my 3.1 disk's, want them.:-0 Dave On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bill, That sounds bad. I guess I'll postpone any new computer purchases for a while, or at least until Vista passes. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote: Some of you know I've had 'puter problems lately. All programs started opening slowly with Windows Installer and I had no wireless internet connection. Doing a clean install of Vista and contacting tech support at RoarRunner things seem to be coming together slowly. I just need to familiarize myself with Vista. It appears PSE 5.0 doesn't want to load, but that's something to worl\k on later. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Stare
She seems to be taking fashion advice from storm troopers... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 2, 2009 9:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - The Stare I think she noticed me: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/stare.html As a pre-emptive strike, I dislike the background, mostly because of the bright white thingie directly behind her head. I think I could tone it down considerably in PS, but with the freebie programme that I'm working with right now, I can't do much about it. I think it still works with that there, just not as well as it will work once that pesky background is toned down. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Cattail Sweep
http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20cattailsweep.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/vmc Vivitar 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mmmmm.... MZ-S
The D-FA specification still includes aperture rings, (subject to change without notice of course). -Original Message- From: Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 1, 2009 10:20 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: m MZ-S No, if only because lenses do not have aperture rings anymore. But they could build around it, indeed. On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net wrote: I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax would release a DSLR based on that body. Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are plentiful (at least compared to 2002) --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-m (K2000D)
I just read the DP Review of the K2000/Km they were their usual snarky selves about anything that doesn't have a Canon or Nikon name plate on it. Not to say that I don't agree with their analysis, but what in a Nikon or Canon would rate a guick gloss over in a Pentax, (and sometimes Olympus), they choose to dwell in the negitive. -Original Message- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sent: Feb 1, 2009 6:34 AM To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax K-m (K2000D) On 1/2/09, Bong Manayon, discombobulated, unleashed: Okay, got a chance to shoot with one this afternoon. A local camera dealer loaned me a demo unit...will get back when I get my wits back together and I get my coffee... I hope you like it more than DPReview http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk2000/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: shooting cats
-Original Message- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: Feb 1, 2009 5:51 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: shooting cats On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 12:24:29PM +0900, David Savage wrote: # 2009/2/1 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: # # # # # ann the senior citizen # # At 48, it's so nice to be in a group where I'm the youngster again. # # cough 31 /cough 0x30 Changing the base like that is cheating you know... -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - corkscrew maple
Better. -Original Message- From: Doug d...@alphoto.com Sent: Feb 1, 2009 12:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - corkscrew maple On Jan 31, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Peter Alling wrote: Crazy doesn't do him justice... how about freakin crazy? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: shooting cats
Bob, you are an evil, evil, man. But you'er a bit behind the times. The Online Photographer is hosted at http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/ now. -Original Message- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: Jan 31, 2009 4:16 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: shooting cats [...] Interestingly, I don't think I've shot pet cats before. It's something that would be fun to do when there's actually light. The close crops aren't quite as sharp as I'd like, but I put them up as a reminder of something to try again when I can do it right. All shots hand held at ISO 800. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157613181556984/ Mike Johnston used to be a regular contributor to this list; he was very fond of cat photos and was always happy to give people advice about shooting them. You might want to drop him an email, including that link - he loves cat shots: http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: You're never too old to be a newbie
Too much hair. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: You're never too old to be a newbie On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Thankfully not a Pentax user. http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/fail-owned-camera-fail.jpg regards, Anthony I think that's Cotty in drag. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-m (K2000D)
Hell, I don't think any of the local shops bother to stock new Pentax Gear, (that includes the execrable Ritz Stores), and the Big Box stores seem to be ignoring it as well. The new marketing strategy in the US seems to be working really well... -Original Message- From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 31, 2009 10:07 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax K-m (K2000D) So...has anyone actually tried the K-m (or K2000D)? -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: a little bit of cheesecake
Somebody has a sense of humor and your sake I hope it's her. -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Jan 31, 2009 9:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: a little bit of cheesecake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6990101 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down a Dark Stairwell
I think you can get an ointment for that condition. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 30, 2009 9:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Down a Dark Stairwell I really didn't think much of this one at the time I took it, but it's growing on me with time: http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/01/down-dark-stairwell.html Your comments are welcome. Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: a little bit of cheesecake
That should read for your sake, I hate it when I drop a word like that... -Original Message- From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Sent: Jan 31, 2009 10:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: a little bit of cheesecake Somebody has a sense of humor and your sake I hope it's her. -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Jan 31, 2009 9:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: a little bit of cheesecake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6990101 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: shooting cats
Has there been a car since the Model T that couldn't do 50mph, at least down hill? -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Sent: Jan 31, 2009 5:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: shooting cats ann sanfedele wrote: (I loathe any car that goes faster than 50 mph Yikes! Who will you ride with to GFM??? Is there any car made these days that *doesn't* go over 50 mph? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - corkscrew maple
Crazy doesn't do him justice... -Original Message- From: Doug d...@alphoto.com Sent: Jan 31, 2009 3:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - corkscrew maple On Jan 31, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: (+3 degrees F at 8:00 a.m. for my Saturday morning run today...) yeah, but you're crazy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: shooting cats
Golf cart, with few pretensions... -Original Message- From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 31, 2009 6:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: shooting cats But are they really a car, or a golf buggy with pretensions? DS 2009/2/1 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: Yes, pretty much all NEV's. Speed limited to 45kph. -Adam On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: Has there been a car since the Model T that couldn't do 50mph, at least down hill? -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Sent: Jan 31, 2009 5:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: shooting cats ann sanfedele wrote: (I loathe any car that goes faster than 50 mph Yikes! Who will you ride with to GFM??? Is there any car made these days that *doesn't* go over 50 mph? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS my 135mm lens listing on ebay (5 hours to go)
The M-135mm f3.5 is nicely compact, supposed to be very sharp, (I have no direct knowledge of that), but it's 135mm a focal length that is no longer in vogue, and unfortunatly common as dirt. Well at least as common as a Pentax non 50-55mm lens can be. I hope you get at least one bid. -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Sent: Jan 31, 2009 10:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: FS my 135mm lens listing on ebay (5 hours to go) is here http://tinyurl.com/cl5wcz It has 7 watchers and a starting price of $49.99 I think since it is my listing it was ok to post a heads up here ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The Calm Photographer
No brain, no pain, more likely... -Original Message- From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Sent: Jan 29, 2009 3:30 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: The Calm Photographer David Savage wrote: I don't know if this has been posted here, but I thought this was kinda' trippy: http://kenbrownart.com/2009/01/very-calm-photographer.html Dude!!! Cheers, Dave Testicles of Tungsten. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightstation...
I've thought about it. Not sure it's worth the effort at this point. -Original Message- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: Jan 29, 2009 3:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Lightstation... Heck, Peter, it's -almost- monochrome already--why not do a truly monochrome rendering? I think it would improve it. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Subject: Lightstation... To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 7:54 PM http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20lightstation.html I'm not sure this works at web size, but why the heck not. Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: EVIL cameras
You mean EVIL isn't a marketable term? -Original Message- From: Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca Sent: Jan 29, 2009 7:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: EVIL cameras Dario, EVIL's the term that's been in use to refer to this sort of design for a while, but a marketable term is needed. -Adam On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Hi all, Thinking of the electronic viewfinder cameras to come after the much discussed (here too) G1, I'm convinced that's the new trend to which all manufacturers will have to take part. So we now need a generic name for them. What abouit EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder, Interchangeable Lens) cameras? Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New guy, Introduction
-Original Message- From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Sent: Jan 29, 2009 8:07 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New guy, Introduction m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Larry, What is your single malt scotch choice? From the array of glass pictured, it appears you may have sampled them all. ;) snip My current favorite is The Balvenie Single Barrel 15 year old. Which barrel? Never mind the barrel: Which 15-year-old?! This is getting periliously close to the Jongkunz branch of this thread... -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Bare Tree
I'm not sure this was worth the trouble. When the color balance for the sky was correct the foreground was very blue, when the color balance for the foreground was correct the color balance in the sky was way way way too yellow/orange. I processed two images in the raw converter, one balanced for the sky, one for the foreground, created a quick mask, in Photoshop and combined the two images. The scene looks the way I remember it, but there are more than a few artifacts in strange places, (not really visible in the web sized image). http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20baretree.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 28-70mm f4.0. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Birds, Boo and Snow
No preditor wants prey that fights back. If dinner kills you while you're catching it, you're doing something wrong. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 29, 2009 10:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso Birds, Boo and Snow On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:27 AM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: Most cats do. There's a special sort of noise that cats make when they are watching birds just outside the window - a kind of click or chirrup. I don't know why they do that, but it's a noise that I have come to know well. According to Desmond Morris in his book Cat Watching it's what many domesticated cats do when they see prey but are unable to actually catch it. The teeth chattering is them practicing severing the spinal cord of their captured prey, thus disabling them. Sounds cruel, but I guess when capturing large, vicious prey like rats, immediate disablement is preferred... I've had several cats over the years that have made that noise, too. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Bare Tree
I live in New England, bleak is what we do. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 29, 2009 11:28 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Bare Tree On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: I'm not sure this was worth the trouble. When the color balance for the sky was correct the foreground was very blue, when the color balance for the foreground was correct the color balance in the sky was way way way too yellow/orange. I processed two images in the raw converter, one balanced for the sky, one for the foreground, created a quick mask, in Photoshop and combined the two images. The scene looks the way I remember it, but there are more than a few artifacts in strange places, (not really visible in the web sized image). http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20baretree.html If you were going for bleak, you got it! I rather like this one... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lens bag
I have a similar solution to your's. I have two standard kits. 1.) Lo-light/Prime. Three lenses: a.) A-24mm f2.8 (Ok. not the fastest or widest, but a lot of photographers got by with a ~35mm aov on 35mm film as their widest lens for a long time, mostly slower lenses than the 28mm with a lot slower film) b.) FA-43mm f1.9 (as a longish normal, an AOV I always rather liked). c.) M-85mm f2.0, (damn I wish Pentax'd made an A version of this lens). The lenses fit in a small bag I have that holds 2 small lenses or one small lens and a converter, extra bateries, a filter or two, cleaning cloth and an extra SD card or two. The camera with one lens mounted stays in my hand The afore mentioned lenses sit ready to go in the bag. The lenses fit in a small bag I have that holds 2 small lenses or one small lens and the converter, extra bateries, a filter, (circular polorizer), or two, cleaning cloth and an extra SD card or two. The camera with one lens mounted stays in my hand. If I might need longer I'll either substitute the M-120mm f2.8, take along the F 1.7x converter or I might take the [K]-135f f2.5 if the extra weight isn't going to be a problem, though then I'll have use a real photo bag. If I knew was going to shoot portraits or be in really constrained spaces I'd substitute a fast 50mm for the 85mm, and the M-35 f2.0 as a more normal normal lens, (I use the M because the FA 35 f2.0 was two rich for my blood when I was buying it and now seems to be unavilable). All the kit variations except the 135mm fit in the same kit bag... 2. The second Kit is for maximum versatility, in focal length. a.) SMC Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0, (small light, not as wide as some normal zooms on APS-C but very sharp and well built). b.) SMC Pentax FA 28-80 f4.0, (matches the 20-35 in everything except build). c.) SMC Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6, (built like a tank, best image quality I've seen from a zoom, 1:3 reproduction for macro work) but a bit slow, or vmc Vivitar S1 70-210 f2.0~4.0. (also built like a tank, though a light tank, more than good enough image quality, with 1:2.2 reproduction ratio for macro work, some exposure issues). If I need to fill out the long or short end I will throw in a 17mm f4.0 fisheye, (not very fishy on APS-C, but sharp enough in a pinch and very compact), and the SMC A*300mm f4.0 and 1.7x adapter). All of this, (well if I use the Pentax 70-210 zoom, the Vivitar is a relitive beast), including one body will fit into a Sundog flat pack style bag that I picked up reciently, (like new used, I doubt they still make them), with pockets for batteries cards filters remote release a filter or two, etc. I have other bags for other purposes and lenses but those two kits are the most used at the moment. -Original Message- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: Jan 29, 2009 1:05 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Lens bag I've got a Fastpack 350 which I use as my every day backpack. That way I always have my camera with me, can carry laptop, wallet etc. Heretofore I've pretty much had four sets of lenses: My first line lenses: stay in the bag. My bigma: usually mounted on a bushhawk, it's either at home or in the trunk of the car My m42 lenses, extension tube and bellows: sitting in a drawer at home My second line lenses: They're mostly just swap fodder. http://red4est.com/lrc/photogear I also have my AF 540, small tripod, big tripod, IR converted FZ20, two promaster flashes with IR filters for the FZ20 and a few other bits of gear. I just ordered the DA40 from prodigital, with that my first line kit will consist of: 18-250 FA 31 FA 50 macro 50/2.8 FA 77 M 135/2.5 DA 40 If I'm going to continue buying lenses, or want to have access to some of my second kit I really need to get a bag for carrying lenses. How do other folks solve this issue? I don't want to call having this many lenses a problem, or even too many lenses. But it is more than I want to always carry around. -- It's not the steps in the dance, it's the dance in the steps. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Signs of Africa
In Texas it's really easy to get a carry permit for a concealed handgun. However it's illegal to carry said handgun into an establishment where alcohol is sold, (I guess alcohol and gunpowder don't mix well). It is also illegal to carry said hand gun into any business or privately owned building that the owners have posted a no handguns sign, (in Austin almost all buildings had such signs), state government buildings and any federal or state court house. So what is a good law 'biding Texan to do? Well I guess leave the handgun in the glove compartment of their car. The upshot being in Texas if you steal a car you get a free pistol... -Original Message- From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Sent: Jan 29, 2009 11:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Signs of Africa you know, they have similar signs like this in Texas. I spend a week in Waco, Texas on business, saw no-side arm signs. Really surprised me. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7853656.stm too funny http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7853656.stm Bob W. that was great, made me giggle I needed to giggle after today. Ann must love these! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:20 PM Subject: Signs of Africa I particularly enjoyed the last of these signs: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7853656.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: list problems
-Original Message- From: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 28, 2009 10:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: list problems On 1/28/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: Spent five days trying to subscribe. My msgs would come back to me, but wouldn't show in the archives nor would appear to other list members. All the sudden, worked. Used to be that subscribing to PDML was easy, but it was ~impossible~ to unsubscribe. We used to joke that once subscribed one was a member for life - like it or not. My, how times have changed! We've become exclusive. I tried to sign up a temproary account when my dedicated PDML account was unavailable. I don't know if the temporary account is even recieving pdml mail yet! That was about a month ago. It was a g-mail account so it doesn't matter really... -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New guy, Introduction
PAW is Photo A Week, for the anal retentive among us. PESO is Photo Every So Often, for those of us who seem to be unable to keep a schedule. Stuff for sale is usually posted on Fridays but really you can do it most anytime. Rules, RULES? There are no Stinkin' rules on the PDML!!! However if you're /really/ annoying be prepaired to be ignored. -Original Message- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: Jan 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New guy, Introduction On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:58:20AM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote: # Hi Larry, # # Larry Colen wrote: # # I joined the list this afternoon, [...] # # Welcome! # # LRC, my initials (and part of my destiny to be an Electrical Engineer, # # :-) Twenty-five years since those classes and, amazingly enough, I got # the joke. Then you may appreciate that a friend suggest a nomme du net that I've used off and on: Henry O. Farad. # [...] I've never shot a Canon SLR that felt good in my hands. # # I feel the same way about Glock pistols. Nice equipment, doesn't fit my # hand. I find so much of the pleasure of photography to be the experience of shooting. One of the things I like about my limiteds so much is the way that they feel. # Uhn-huh. You have been enabled. /Wy/ enabled. It /does/ get # worse. :-) It's cheaper than the hobby that I'm taking a financial hiatus from: http://red4est.com/miata http://red4est.com/jasmine If I look at it realistically a weekend of racing costs about $600 by the time the smoke clears. For that, I could buy a pretty nice lens every month and still come out ahead. Problem is that's the sort of logic that gets me saving way more money that I can afford. Someone recently threw out references to peso and paw, my guess is that they're acronyms. What are the rules about listing stuff for sale or trade on the list? Any other social conventions I should know lest I put my foot in it? # -- # Thanks, # DougF (KG4LMZ) -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
On topic but apropos of nothing really...
I've discovered that if you beat the hell out of the 43mm limited eventualy it makes a god awful, grinding noise when it focuses, which actually makes Canon shooters cringe, (a bit of a nice side effect actually). It still focuses smoothly, but I guess I should send it into Pentax for repair one of these days. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Still Life in the Snow
Seems a bit to busy to be a clasic. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 28, 2009 11:58 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Still Life in the Snow Since it continues to snow (it's been going all morning) I can't resist this one: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2009/01/shopping-in-snow.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lightstation...
http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20lightstation.html I'm not sure this works at web size, but why the heck not. Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On topic but apropos of nothing really...
I guess I'll have to give proper attribution eventually... -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely b...@blakely.com Sent: Jan 28, 2009 6:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: On topic but apropos of nothing really... I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather... Not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car., is attributd to Will Shriner. He also said, I almost got a girl pregnant in high school. It's costing me a fortune to keep the rabbit on a life-support system. and Everything is drive-through. In California, they even have a burial service called Jump-In-The-Box. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0795407/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil_Shriner http://web.mac.com/wilshriner/ws/Welcome.html Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe (Humphrey Bogart) From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightstation...
The object is an automated light house, the odd texture is Ice... -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Jan 28, 2009 8:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Lightstation... Ok, I give up - what's that strange object beyond the path? Interesting indeed, I just find the texture into the path a little disruptive. LF Peter Alling escreveu: http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20lightstation.html I'm not sure this works at web size, but why the heck not. Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for the FAQ
Tom hasn't been posting to the list for quite some time, I think he stopped supporting and updating his FAQ. His former web hosting service went belly up last July, some content seems to have been lost, the FAQ amongst(?) it. -Original Message- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: Jan 28, 2009 8:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Looking for the FAQ Doug sent me a link to: http://pdmlpug.org/ which has a link to the mini-faq http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html which is 404 -- It's not the steps in the dance, it's the dance in the steps. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Anon, (AFAIK) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway
They are, Adam just applied false color... -Original Message- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: Jan 26, 2009 4:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway And all this time I thought Toronto's subways were all black and white! Rick (I like the shot, too) --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Been going for Frank's territory of late, lots of subway shooting. So here's another from the subway, Taken at 7:30AM on a Saturday, I'm not used to it being this empty at that time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3227133637/ Larger/Direct link: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3227133637_9090fd5c14_o.jpg Panny G1, 14-45 G Vario, ISO 800, 1/30, f...@14mm, vignetting in post -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway
There's an article about enhancing micro contrast on the web. I can't find the link but a google search of Micro Contrast Photoshop Unsharp Mask or similar will get you a pointer. The gist of it is, that you enhance micro contrast by using these settings in USM, Amount=20%, Radius=50 pixels, threshold=0. Some images respond better to slightly different parameters, but the 20%, 50, 0 gives a good start, and usually a good finish. -Original Message- From: Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net Sent: Jan 26, 2009 1:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway Adam, I like this type of pictures. Very nicely done. I am new to the term micro-contrast. Is sharpening usually done to compensate for this? Do you have any reference that I can read about? Thanks, On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Clarity and Vibrance added in ACR along with vignetting. Smart Sharpening in PSCS3. The kit lens is quite good, but low in micro-contrast so I bump that in post. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway
I'm sorry, he's in Canada so that should be colour. -Original Message- From: Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com Sent: Jan 27, 2009 3:23 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway They are, Adam just applied false color... -Original Message- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: Jan 26, 2009 4:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PESO - Empty Subway And all this time I thought Toronto's subways were all black and white! Rick (I like the shot, too) --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Been going for Frank's territory of late, lots of subway shooting. So here's another from the subway, Taken at 7:30AM on a Saturday, I'm not used to it being this empty at that time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3227133637/ Larger/Direct link: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3227133637_9090fd5c14_o.jpg Panny G1, 14-45 G Vario, ISO 800, 1/30, f...@14mm, vignetting in post -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Bad Start to the Day
Yes, I guess it is. -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 27, 2009 9:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Bad Start to the Day http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/01/bad-day-on-berwick-avenue.html Comments always welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Close Encounter
I think most of the Priesthood has defected. -Original Message- From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Sent: Jan 27, 2009 8:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT PESO - Close Encounter Very interesting photo, David - but your notes tell us of heresy. I know tis to be a fairly advanced, open-minded and progressive list, but you'd better spend the next posts praising Pentax ,lest the priesthood takes offense. LF ;-) David Savage escreveu: G'day All, One from this most recent road trip: http://flickr.com/photos/disavage/3231298408/ Direct link (~130kb): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/3231298408_3c2b43e5eb_o.jpg This statue is one of 51 that make up part of the Inside Australia art installation surrounding the island located at Lake Ballard (salt lake) near Menzies in the Goldfields. D700, 20mm f2.8, 602 seconds @ f5.6, ISO 500. On a technical note, even the D700's much vaunted sensor doesn't appreciate high ambient temperatures. This shot was taken at around 10:30pm and it was around 30-35 degrees C. This has been the worst example of noise I've seen on this camera required quite a bit of work in PS to clean it up. That being said, none of my Pentax DSLR's would have been able to produce this shot anywhere near as cleanly. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - They're off!
I've noticed a few multiple posts, but not many, and a few replies to messages I've received before the messages, but I've put the latter down to the vagaries of the Internet. -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Jan 27, 2009 7:38 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - They're off! Interesting. This showed up 13 hours after I wrote it. Anyone else noticing list hiccups? Paul On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Fun shot. I like the way the guy in the yellow shirt is getting bit in the butt by a squirrel. Paul On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Ken Waller wrote: whose breed name escapes me (started with a B... aybe a Bernese Mountain dog ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernese_Mountain_Dog Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - They're off! On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Peter McIntosh peter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Long time lurking, only a little time for the occasional PESO. My wife and I went to Parramatta Park (western Sydney) for the Australia Day celebrations today. We happened across some dog agility trials - specifically flyball (at least, that's what I think they called it). Dogs run in teams, and basically scarper down a marked lane with some small jumps, hit a board at the end that releases a ball, grab the ball and bolt back with it. Runs are timed, and there are starting lights (not unlike drag strip christmas tree lights). This peso is the start of one of the pairs races: kelpie (nearest camera) vs border collie. http://picasaweb.google.com.au/petergly/ OnePhoto#5295521341986808722 I was fascinated, to say the least. Dogs of all sizes were running - from miniature poodles to an English sheepdog look-alike, whose breed name escapes me (started with a B - maybe some of you dog guys out there might know it?). And, to a dog, they all absolutely loved it! JPEG in the ist-DL, just a quick and dirty contrast adjustment in Picasa. All comments most welcome. Back to lurking, Peter in western Sydney That's a terrific photo! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FA*28-70 f/2.8 AL
KEH wants a lot more for that lens when it's in stock. It may be comparable to the DA* but it the the DA* lens doesn't have the Cachet of the FA*. I expect that you can get closer to twice that on e-bay even in todays depressed market. -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 25, 2009 1:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: FA*28-70 f/2.8 AL Jack, $750 or $1,000 is my guess, given the fluctuating currency rates. The DA16-50mm f2.8 ED-AL is listed at $630 as a comparable lens. I like the FA*28-70 f2.8 AL better for the day when we have full frame again. Weights are 600g vs 800g according to Boz's site. Like you, I find the DA16-45/4 is a nice carry around lens - light snappy. But it is softer than my 31mm and 77mm limiteds. I didn't think that was the case with the FA*28-70/2.8. Whoever buys it will get a great lens. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Didn't think this would ever happen, but I'm considering selling my FA*28~70 f/2.8 AL lens. I did a fairly serious comparison of its images to those produced by my DA 16~45 f/4 and feel it slightly out performs it. I'm beginning to feel that The small difference isn't significant enough to justify my packing it around (a bit heavy) and not using it. This is the lens I mentioned having dropped with frigid fingers a few falls back while in Grand Teton NP while attempting to mount it. It dropped maybe 12-14 onto a rock wall at the Snake River Overlook. A mounting ring flange was bent just enough that the lens wouldn't mount. When I returned home, I sent it to Pentax CO. for repair and CLA. The mounting ring was replaced, of course, and it has worked as new since. Am attaching a picture of along with one of the slightly scuffed hood (not dented) and one showing three small dings at the base including one on the edge of the aperture ring. I need help with a price. Will happily read your giggle ideas, but at some point I'll need to enter base bid when posted on eBay..if it comes to that. Thanks for your help! Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=379 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=380 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=381 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders
Better yet a squirrel on a skewer... -Original Message- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: Jan 25, 2009 12:13 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders How about a mole on a wire? Birds and phone/power lines around here are difficult due to the prevalence of all underground utilities! :-) Thanks for the comments! Walt On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: That's a funny sign, Walt, and you gave it a good go with the minimalist GESO--I like the squirrel cat pic--made me giggle. I think you're off to a fine start! Now go find yourself a telephone wire with a bird on it shoot it with lots of sky :-). Keep going, show us more ;-). Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders Thanks for the replies and encouragement. Here is one that may or may not fit the category, but I thought it was cute anyway and worth sharing. Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/7175892_fhzk3#460789473_ h84CC-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Printer Question
I don't have direct experience, (I could have picked up one of these very inexpensively), but they don't support my OS any drivers. I like the concept. However most of the reviews I've seen don't seem to think there's much savings in the cost of inks, and you can pick up an equally capable photo printer or all in one printer from HP at roughly the same price. -Original Message- From: Tony to...@compusource.net Sent: Jan 25, 2009 12:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Printer Question Anyone got one of those Kodak ESP 5 or ESP 7 printers? My wife and I joined a night-school photography class, and wanted to get a decent printer, that wouldn't put us in the poorhouse buying ink. Seen the ads and commercials for the Kodak units, but anyone here have any real-world experience with it? Tony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Of interest to list members
-Original Message- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: Jan 24, 2009 6:39 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Of interest to list members I have bought, sold and for the most part, pissed off Bill Robb, Better, I suppose, to have pissed off Bill Robb than to have pissed on him. Bob Even better to have pissed him off, than have him piss on you... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders
You have to be really careful with reds using digital cameras, they over saturate very easily. -Original Message- From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 24, 2009 5:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders Thanks Pasvorn. Check out the color version of the ribbon, I just added it. I will try a little more DOF on the other vine shot as well, or maybe a crop. Walt On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net wrote: Walt, On the Ribbon and Shoes, I like the concept. However, the ribbon lack texture. It looks like it probably a bright red and some detail was lost. I don't know if I can suggest anything here since I think many sensors can not handle red very well. I like Vines on Tree, if you can try again, may be could try with the leaves also in focus (smaller aperture for deeper DOF.) -Pasvorn On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/7175892_fhzk3#460668835_8NkJP Comments appreciated. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Need Work
Look, there are real homeless people, I know that. However I've seen the local work for food crowd and know most of them. They are professionals. If you give them money, they're fine with that. If you actually offer them work, be prepaired for words you couldn't repeat in polite company. There are lots of kinds of homeless as well. In New Haven we have a woman called the Shakespere Lady, she's Yale educated, got a full scholarship, but in some manner she's insane. When some former classmates found out she was on the streets, they set her up with doctors and med's and a free apartment. In less that 6 months she was back on the streets refusing to take her med's, not sleeping in her apartment, reciting Shakespear for handout's, (thus Shakespear Lady). I don't know weather to feel sorry for her or not... There are lots of stories, some are sad, some are scams. When you see a homeless begger put take off their ratty army surplus coat, and get into a late model car, (in better condition than I can afford), to drive home, it kind of makes you suspect the next panhandler isn't quite what they pretend to be. -Original Message- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: Jan 24, 2009 2:57 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Need Work In a message dated 1/23/2009 10:10:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, webste...@mindspring.com writes: Photographing him might have made him uncomfortable because he was a professional. Professionally homeless? I guess some fixed on the T-shirt he was wearing, I fixated on the book he is carrying (probably a bible). You know, there are 11 million out of work in the US, umeployment in CA is at 9.3%, the CC/Solano food bank can't keep up with demand and is underfunded (people are giving less), and there have been 10,000 foreclosures in my CC County. And I didn't used to see beggars all the time. Okay, off my soap box, but sometimes some people's reactions strike me simply as denial. Thanks for looking, Peter. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall0002) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders
I just don't know what to say to that... -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Jan 25, 2009 2:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders On Jan 25, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Peter Alling wrote: You have to be really careful with reds using digital cameras, they over saturate very easily. You just can't trust those commies. Paul -Original Message- From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 24, 2009 5:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders Thanks Pasvorn. Check out the color version of the ribbon, I just added it. I will try a little more DOF on the other vine shot as well, or maybe a crop. Walt On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net wrote: Walt, On the Ribbon and Shoes, I like the concept. However, the ribbon lack texture. It looks like it probably a bright red and some detail was lost. I don't know if I can suggest anything here since I think many sensors can not handle red very well. I like Vines on Tree, if you can try again, may be could try with the leaves also in focus (smaller aperture for deeper DOF.) -Pasvorn On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/7175892_fhzk3#460668835_8NkJP Comments appreciated. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coaling pier
I got page cannot be displayed, on both URL's. My Gaud, Cotty, you posted it the PDML and broke their web site! -Original Message- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sent: Jan 25, 2009 2:34 PM To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Coaling pier On 25/1/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Yup. I like to keep a couple of cormorants in my camera bag - they're just the thing to liven up an otherwise dull scene. My God! You too! http://www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/gifts/friends/birds/cormorant-plastic- animals-birds-f616.htm http://tinyurl.com/augn36 Discount with bulk order. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders
Gummo... -Original Message- From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: Jan 25, 2009 11:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders Groucho or Harpo ? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders Whatever you do, don't quote Marx... LF Peter Alling escreveu: I just don't know what to say to that... -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Jan 25, 2009 2:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders On Jan 25, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Peter Alling wrote: You have to be really careful with reds using digital cameras, they over saturate very easily. You just can't trust those commies. Paul -Original Message- From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 24, 2009 5:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: My Attempt to Learn from Godders Thanks Pasvorn. Check out the color version of the ribbon, I just added it. I will try a little more DOF on the other vine shot as well, or maybe a crop. Walt On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net wrote: Walt, On the Ribbon and Shoes, I like the concept. However, the ribbon lack texture. It looks like it probably a bright red and some detail was lost. I don't know if I can suggest anything here since I think many sensors can not handle red very well. I like Vines on Tree, if you can try again, may be could try with the leaves also in focus (smaller aperture for deeper DOF.) -Pasvorn On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/7175892_fhzk3#460668835_8NkJP Comments appreciated. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Arrrgh
Har, as if you'd know... -Original Message- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: Jan 23, 2009 9:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Arrrgh Plus you spelt Arrrg wrong Dave On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:56 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote: Sorry to vent. Frustrated beyond belief. 3+ hours of driving for NOTHING. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
