Re: micro 4/3 body, only $159???

2012-04-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
We have one of those at school.  It's a nice little camera, and a real
steal at that price.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 That looks like a great deal for a backup body for someone with u4/3.

 I suspect that sensor technology has advanced enough now that there are now 
 u4/3 bodies with what I'd consider usable low light performance.  Even with 
 his 25/0.95 lens, my friend Marco's u4/3 body is just shy of working for 
 dance photography.


 On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:48 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

 http://www.cameta.com/Olympus-Pen-E-PL1-Micro-4-3-Digital-Camera-Body-Black-
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Re: I am a virgin no more

2012-04-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL.  I had the same thought.

Processing film is a very satisfying job.  I still have access to a
darkroom and should try it again.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 For maximum comedic effect, your sentences should have been reversed.
 : )



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 Tonight I processed my first roll of black and white film! It was messy but
 the results were...pleasing.

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Re: OT: Fun new photographic meme

2012-04-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
What a hoot.

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 As with all things meme-ish, your mileage may vary.
 http://epicowling.com/epic/

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Re: If it is not yet dark where you live... Photo Op

2012-04-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nah.  No bridge around here.  ;-)

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 CRESCENT MOON ALERT: When the sun goes down tonight, step outside and
 look west into the twilight. You might see something like this:
 http://www.spaceweather.com/images2012/23apr12/crescent_strip.jpg

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Re: PESO: Discovery's last flight

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a hell of a parking lot shot.  Well done.  The detail on the
shuttle is really fine.

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 On 2012-04-21 20:40, Mark C wrote:

 On 4/20/2012 11:16 AM, Bryan Jacoby wrote:

 No great artistic value here but I thought some might be interested:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryan_jacoby/7095178799/lightbox/

 That's a great shot - I looked at a few snaps on the news pages. Yours
 is heads and shoulders above the ones I looked at.


 I agree, Mark.  That is, by a considerable margin, the best photo I've seen
 of Discovery on her final tour.

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Re: An interesting experiment

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Some very nice shots there.

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 Experiment worked; excellent photos!

 cheers,
 frank

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 Subject: An interesting experiment

 My friend Aeriol asked me to show up at her gig last night and get some 
 photos of her with her new hairdo.

 As the bartender said when she saw me More pictures of the same people doing 
 the same thing at the same place!.

 The difference being that last night, just to see how it would work, I 
 brought a studio strobe.  WTF, I've never photographed musicians in a bar, 
 with a full on studio strobe before, I wanted to see how it would work if I 
 could throw stupid big numbers of photons at them.   The short answer is that 
 I was eventually able to get some decent photos, but it was tough.  
 Especially only using one strobe.  Fortunately it was a quiet night, so I 
 didn't have to worry too much about pissing off too many patrons.  Some of my 
 best luck  was from cheating a second light source by aiming the strobe at 
 the mirror stage left, but letting a bunch of light spill out the side to get 
 some fill from straight on.

 I expect that in the future I should try multiple speedlights on light stands.

 I also found that just using the modeling light as a hot light worked pretty 
 well.

 This is also the first set of photos that I've tried processing using LR4.  
 I'm not entirely happy with the processing.  Auto tone sucks when you 
 really do want a black background.

 But, for your amusement:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629493693342/

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Re: Hey, Paul, did you hear about Humber

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's always great to see an athlete have a moment like that,
especially after surgery.  OTOH, it's always fun to watch the tension
mount as it gets closer.  Pierzynski (the catcher) talked about making
that last throw to first and not screwing it up.

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 How wonderful for him, The Sox and their fans.

 21 years ago I turned on the TV in the third inning of Dennis Martinez' 
 perfect game for the Expos (my poor, dearly departed Expos!). It's a 
 wonderful thing to experience live, even if only as a television spectator. 
 To be part of the last two thirds of that game was an amazing, nailbiting, 
 once in a lifetime thing - since my Expos are now gone and I have no 
 favourite baseball team anymore (and have sworn to myself that I never will; 
 an Expos fan til the day I die).

 For El Presidente it was the first perfect fame for a Latin American pitcher 
 and it remains the only perfect game by a Canadian team (the Jays have never 
 pitched one, only been on the receiving end).

 As for Humber, yesterday was his first complete game! Amazing.

 Congrats to him and all White Sox fans everywhere.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 Subject: Hey, Paul, did you hear about Humber

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Re: OT GESO - Nokton 17.5mm 0.95

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like the look of those shots.  Of course, I tend to prefer darker to
lighter overall tones.

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 :) Thanks Frank and everyone who looked.

 The 17.5 is micro four thirds, so a nice classic 35mm 'quiv.

 One other fancy thing about his lens. It has an adjustable aperture ring so
 you can have click stops, like all good street photographers need, to be
 able to adjust by feel. Or turn a dial, and the aperture has no click stops,
 which I imagine would be great for video guys. Clever

 Red coat is one of those things I try often but almost never succeed. As I
 walk past, pivot the camera (shooting from the hip as most of these were) to
 keep her centre. Many more misses than hits, I have to say, with this
 technique.

 Clouds are the best, Frank. Nature's softbox.



 On 21/04/2012 10:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brilliant stuff!

 Two absolute standouts: The kissing couple (very Doisneau) and the young
 woman in the red coat looking at her mobile. I'm completely in awe of the
 latter. Looks like the background isn't just oof but is motion blurred as
 well. Is that you moving around he subject (sort of a reverse pan)?
 Absolutely brilliant!

 Btw, remind me again what body you hang the Nokton on?

 I hear you about shooting in groups. I don't like it myself. Don't so much
 like drawing attention when I'm working - whether shooting street or
 nature, incognito works better with me.

 And finally, cool shot of the lens innards. Who knew?

 You've inspired me. It's gloriously cloudy - a great day to shoot the
 streets. Here I go!

 :-)

 cheers,
 frank

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 Subject: OT GESO - Nokton 17.5mm 0.95


 Scoff at Cosina as much as you like, but they are pumping out darn sexy
 lenses right now. I ordered the 17.5mm 0.95 back in Feb and it arrive
 this week, so tried it out streety today. Sweet.

 The interesting thing about the lens, it is quite close focusing, so
 most of the lens throw is less than 1m. That leaves a scat adjustment
 for 1m to infinity. It didn't occur to me until I started using it, this
 is beautiful for zone focusing, which I was doing today. Even at f0.95,
 I could guess the distance and fire away.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_17nokton/index.htm

 Mid way through the day, I spotted a few 'togs with geared up Leicas,
 and walking in a pack. Turned out to be Eric Kim's street photography
 class.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_eric/01.htm

 I like Eric, but shooting in a pack wouldn't do it for me. Too
 conspicuous.


 Bonus on-topic post. When the DA 16-50 came back from repair, they
 included the left over bits. Here is the PCB and SDM motor

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Re: OT GESO - Nokton 17.5mm 0.95

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Stupid question, BTW:  what camera?

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Scoff at Cosina as much as you like, but they are pumping out darn sexy
 lenses right now. I ordered the 17.5mm 0.95 back in Feb and it arrive this
 week, so tried it out streety today. Sweet.

 The interesting thing about the lens, it is quite close focusing, so most of
 the lens throw is less than 1m. That leaves a scat adjustment for 1m to
 infinity. It didn't occur to me until I started using it, this is beautiful
 for zone focusing, which I was doing today. Even at f0.95, I could guess the
 distance and fire away.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_17nokton/index.htm

 Mid way through the day, I spotted a few 'togs with geared up Leicas, and
 walking in a pack. Turned out to be Eric Kim's street photography class.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_eric/01.htm

 I like Eric, but shooting in a pack wouldn't do it for me. Too conspicuous.


 Bonus on-topic post. When the DA 16-50 came back from repair, they included
 the left over bits. Here is the PCB and SDM motor

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_sdm/01.htm

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Re: photo. net acting funny

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yep.  Getting an error page in Chrome.

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 Trouble getting access to Dan's photo yesterday.   Bob S.

 On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:26 AM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
 Anyone having trouble with photo,net not loading all the pictures ? Thanks
 Joe

 http://photo.net.photos/pjjdxn

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Re: PESOS: Scoot x Two

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Watch it Paul.  Before you know it she'll have a Harley.  ;-)  I
particularly like the first one.

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 Paul, I like Scoot better than Scoot two. The face and the scooter, better
 in this photo..Joe






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Re: Funny Photoshop job

2012-04-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
It took me a while to see it as well, although I thought it was funny ;-)

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 actually that's not very funny at all :-(

 I looked at both photos and didn't even notice the motorcylce - just noticed
 that no one had brightened the girl's face or darkened the
 washed out background... so I thought the joke was nothing was done.
 then I squinted to read the words.

 I take it the removing was done by a wiseass :-)

 ann

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Re: PESO: Last Photo Ever Taken

2012-04-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
They have an A50 1.7 at KEH for $84.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Your last picture focus point is right on, Walt.
 Sorry about your rotten luck with the K-X/A 50 f/1.7!!


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 Subject: PESO: Last Photo Ever Taken

 Well, all I can say is that I'm utterly crestfallen today. Seems I dropped my 
 K-x with the A 50/1.7 -- leaving the lens inoperable and irreparable. This is 
 the last shot that will ever be taken with it.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6950076942/

 I think it's fair to say I'm heartbroken.

 -- Walt

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Re: SMUGMUG outages et. al.

2012-04-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just got in fine.  maybe it's fixed now.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 When I go to log in , I get the 'we are working on it' messages

 I couldnt see either of my most recent galleries, either, Christine...
 ugh

 On top of SmUGMUG -- there were cafepress issues yesterday when I was trying
 to update some things..  and day before internet service locally was out for
 a few hours.

 ebay just changed the way you write up things you are selling, too.

 Not a happy camper here

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Re: Being back, sorta

2012-04-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Welcome back (sort of).  I hope all is well.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:37 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Good to see you posting again, Boris!

 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia


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 Subject: Being back, sorta

 Hello there.

 I'll try to delurk and see if I can handle it.

 How have you been, ladies and gentlemen while I was standing outside the 
 building?

 Over here not much happened except that I got myself a second K-5 with a 
 focusing screen
 that is said to be special for manual focusing (it is
 indeed) so that I can now return to my most favorite lens - A 50/1.2.

 Galia gets my another K-5 for her main camera and K-7 as you might have seen 
 is going to
 be sold.

 If you frequent (or not so frequent) my blog, you can see most recent shots 
 from the
 vacation we recently had. Galia did really well with her K-7.

 Cheers!

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Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.

2012-04-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Some cats like water.  This one apparently enjoys the shower.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:
 On 2012-04-18 23:33, John Sessoms wrote:

 A box of rocks is smarter than the average cat.


 Smart or dumb, a cat rarely gives a crap about the things important to us
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Re: OT - Nikon Announces 24MP APS-C DSLR - $699

2012-04-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
I remember a PDML post once upon a time that claimed it would take
about 20-25 MP for digital to equal the IQ of film.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 ...available in red, no less...

 ;)
 -c

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Re: Pentax Sighting - Jaws

2012-04-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Spielberg admitted that he initially thought John Williams' score was
silly.  As for the Pentax, I don't recall exactly  ;-)

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Stef wanted to watch 'Jaws' which we have in DVD. Absolutely brilliant
 film as I'm sure you will agree - the best storytelling by a Master.

 In the scene where they think they've caught the killer shark, the
 newspaper photographer is snapping the beast with proud captors on the
 dock, and even though in a wide shot, I'm sure it's a Honeywell Pentax.

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Re: Would you eat at this restaurant?

2012-04-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
We're on a roll now.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Dan your photo leaves me flushed with joy! Cheers, Christine




 On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 That is a crappy remark.
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:27 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I guess someone could always wipe out their supply.


 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Would you eat at this restaurant?


 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15563345

 They seem to be quite determined to ensure that an adequate supply of
 toilet paper is on hand in the rest room.  [In fact, there is an
 additional roll, on a floor stand not visible in this image.

 Comments , criticisms, abuse and rants are all welcome.

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Re: Opinion on FA J 18-35

2012-04-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
You could get a used one pretty cheap at KEH.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think there is a single J series lens that is worthy of
 carrying the jock strap of *any* other series of Pentax lens.


 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 Local shop has one for $140.
 Haven't had a chance to check it out yet.
 Anyone here use one?  Good, Bad, Average?

 Sincerely,

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Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the
correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size.

(Wow.  That was a lot of crap even for an academic.)

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 I knew my ears were burning! Lol.

 Steven, I *do* have many friends on your side of the world willing to do my
 dirty work for me you know! ;-)

 Tan.x.

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 Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

 I figure she's on the other side of the planet.  At least I have time to
 hide.

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're in big trouble now...

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
 -- Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

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 Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12
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Re: PESO: Necessary Advice?

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sadly, I've done that.  To remind people is a nice gesture.
Hopefully, there wasn't a really big lawsuit involved.

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 Neither did I.  G
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 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
 Dan, I do not know what to make of this one.. ?




 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15539933

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Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
To say Mark would be to damn with faint praise.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the
 correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size.

 My love life is entirely dependent on this trait.

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Re: OT: NO Dough

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Agreed.  Normally the phrase is half-baked'.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 17/4/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

What were you planning to bake?

 I think I've been on this email list since about 1998 or so and to this
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Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Excellent.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Don't believe they needed the sign. ;-)

 Jack


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 Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:04 PM
 Subject: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

2012-04-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
Tan's right.  It is a woman.  Well, that explains it all.  :-o

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:35 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I don't know how you can tell that in that tiny image. I can barely see that
 he/she/it has hair and ears.

 From: Tanya Love


 Agreed!  And also, its not a he, but a she! She's wearing dangly
 earrings
 and has her hair pulled back into a bun...

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 Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01 AM
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 Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

 ...Instagram.

 On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uduIXFUynRQ/T4bdGgCKZaI/Cf8/l48eq
 J5jvg4/w497-h373/fGxbW.jpg

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Re: GESOs - use it or lose it

2012-04-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like the plane shot because it's hard to get one that good.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I promised myself to exercise different lenses more often. The DA 16-50 came
 back from repair, and they returned the faulty PCB and motor. Nice souvenirs

 But didn't feel like taking the big zoomie, so had a day out with the DA 21
 and 70

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_fluffywhiteclouds/01.htm
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_04/12_04_thefalls/01.htm
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Peso: Burned

2012-04-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
We've had some local fires in the George Washington National Forest:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1799901750k=JgZSCMdlb=1s=XL

Most of the trees are still green, so this one appears to have just
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Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

2012-04-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
I figure she's on the other side of the planet.  At least I have time to hide.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're in big trouble now...

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
 Christopher Hitchens

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

 Tan's right.  It is a woman.  Well, that explains it all.  :-o

 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 6:35 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I don't know how you can tell that in that tiny image. I can barely see that
 he/she/it has hair and ears.

 From: Tanya Love


 Agreed!  And also, its not a he, but a she! She's wearing dangly
 earrings
 and has her hair pulled back into a bun...

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 Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01 AM
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 Subject: Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear

 ...Instagram.

 On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uduIXFUynRQ/T4bdGgCKZaI/Cf8/l48eq
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Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead

2012-04-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
A little Mothers is all it needs.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I took a little Sunday excursion to Stanley, about 120 miles north.
 Left at 3:45 AM and arrived shortly after 6:00 AM.

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Re: something new

2012-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just like Kompressor with the K. ;-)  Looks really fun.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 April 2012 14:00, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 I decided it was time to get beyond buying camera gear for a while. I mean, 
 really, I have other obsessions to deal with.

 2000 Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/SLK_230_Kompressor.jpg

 So I don't buy a Summilux 75 and a second M9 body for a while. Will it 
 really hurt me?

 (Photo on left with GXR, center and right with the iPhone 4S.)

 Life is good.

 G


 Spotto!

 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spotto

 Uber cool.  I've liked those Benzes from the moment they first
 appeared.  Is the Kompressor a turbo or a supercharger?  I recently
 got a turbo diesel in an SUV (Hyundai ix35) and the turbo lag takes
 some getting used to.  On the flipside, hills and mountains are barely
 noticed and it's uncannily quiet at freeway speeds, ticking along at
 hardly more than an idle.

 regards, Anthony

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Re: Imagine

2012-04-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
As always, Paul, a touching photo.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:50 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is quite nice.

 Dave

 On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 My favorite of the Easter pics.

 K-5, DA 16=50/2.8, f4 1/13th, ISO 1600


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Re: OT: Thomas Kinkade, Dead

2012-04-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Paul is on to something here.  There is nothing strange about someone
producing lousy art.  OTOH, it's really weird that so many people
bought this stuff.  This is not some kind of visual Ponzi scheme;  you
can actually see what you are buying and there is no deception.  If he
sold his stuff then there's certainly a major source of reinforcement
that a lot of people think his art is just peachy.  Why should he
pay any attention to the ones that don't like his stuff and assume
they are right?   A lot a folks don't  listen to Mozart, after all.
Of course, his reported personal unhappiness may indicate that he
didn't like his own stuff.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Apr 8, 2012, at 5:42 PM, John Francis wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 03:44:34PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
 I don't even blame Kinkade for his own self-promotion.

 I have absolutely no problems with his self-promotion, nor with his
 ability to sell vast quantities of his product.  My objection is to
 the pretence that he is providing the artistic equivalent of fine
 dining rather than fast food.

 Of course if his work wasn't positioned as a fine dining equivalent, it 
 wouldn't sell. The pretense is an essential part of the  product. While his 
 happy little scenes aren't my idea of art, they obviously fit that definition 
 for some. That's opinion to which his buyers are entitled. Beauty and message 
 are subjective, and the art market isn't subject to censor by the taste 
 police.
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Re: OT: Thomas Kinkade, Dead

2012-04-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
I object to anyone my age dying.  It encourages what I consider to be
a bad trend.

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know anything about Kinkade swindling investors but I certainly did 
 hear about his temper and other rather unsavory things about his personal 
 life.

 Whatever.

 Much as I may dismiss his art (such as it is) I'm not sure how it is that he 
 didn't deliver. Seems to me that he did deliver - exactly what his buyers 
 wanted (otherwise they wouldn't have bought, right?).

 Whatever our opinion might be of his works, the sheer number of paintings and 
 prints sold must say something...

 Bottom feeder? Perhaps.

 Opportunistic panderer? Almost certainly.

 Rich man? Well, he was that. Fat lot of good his money is doing him now.

 I guess it'll buy him a nice funeral and keep his heirs in funds for a 
 generation or two.

 I hear he was a Christian. I'm sure there will be a Thomas Kinkade wing added 
 to his church now, likely filled with his paintings.

 As others said, condolences to his family. May they find consolation in their 
 grief...

 frank

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 Sent: April 7, 2012 4/7/12
 To: pdml@pdml.net


 I'm not really impressed with his success, any more than I'm impressed
 with the success of ... oh say ... Bernie Madoff. Kinkade was selling
 champagne when he couldn't even deliver beer and swindling his investors
 on top of it. Plus, he was an opportunistic bottom feeder.

 And lets not even get into the way he acted when he was drinking.


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Re: Testing the K-01

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Is this the new 40?

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 Hello Christine, and others who may be intested:
 As promised, I will post some test shots, done with the K-01 in this Flickr 
 set:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629380559984/

 The first test shots are macro shots.

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Re: PESO - L SALES FINAL

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm a big fan of the one book justification for a Kindle.  I find my
paper book purchases have all but evaporated.  I have the $79 Kindle,
which cost much less than my cellphone.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 John,
 They are not for me, but I do appreciate the Kindle when we go on vacation.
 Only one 'book' to haul.  Never need to go shopping for new reading material.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Never have to recharge the battery on a real book, and you can still read a
 real book that has a bullet hole in it.

 From: Bob Sullivan

 My daughter bought a Kindle.
 My wife saw it and got one also.
 They both love 'em and share titles,
 plus the library has Kindle books for loan as well.
 Regards, Bob S.

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:18 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Maybe I'd be happer with an iPad or one of the dedicated thingamajigs,
 but I'm not willing to drop the big bux to find out.

 I've been thinking towards a Kindle lately but I don't really read enough
 to justify getting one.

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Re: Pentax FF

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Now that you mention it, I have far more FA than DA lenses.  Of
course, i wouldn't spend $2500 on any camera.

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 From: Tom C


 John Sessoms wrote:

 Well, if they end up making a profit off the Q and the K-01, I don't
 suppose it's a waste of money, although neither of them fits my needs.

 I've been sort of aiming towards the K-3 being my next Pentax camera,
 whether it's FF or not. I'm not willing to pay $3K for another APS-C
 body, but I would for full frame. It would hurt, but I'd do it.

 At that point I'd just sell all my Pentax gear, buy a D800/E and start
 over. Watch everyone complain if/when there's a Pentax FF that now all
 the money they spent on the APS-C lenses reduces the resolution when
 put on a FF body. Many will have to buy new lenses, so at that point,
 why Pentax?

 Pentax has taken too long for me to conceivably buy into a FF system
 from them. Even a $2000 body at 24MP would make me think long and hard
 on spending on Pentax vs. taking my business elsewhere.


 Yeah, a big investment in APS-C lenses would be a problem, but mostly I've
 been getting by using film lenses. The only APS-C lenses I have are the
 18-55 kit lens that came with the K-20D  a couple of Sigmas (30mm f/1.4 
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Re: A new drug for us

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Too close.  I'm off P mode. . .

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Re: Cat photo

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
You caught a very cattish expression.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Nice cat capture... Wish mine would stay in one spot when I get down to get
 an eye level capture she comes over for some loving.

 
 Photo Captures by Jeffery
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark
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 Here's our little guy Fenway, age 9 months:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01723.jpg

 Yeah, I'm bored tonight...

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Re: New lens prices

2012-04-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Agreed.  Some zooms are just Freudian for polite company.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 What Christine said--that's me too on the 16-5mm--I so hate that external 
 zoom.  There's something very rude about the way it juts out. :-)  Course, I 
 do wish I could replace my DA 16-45mm with a weather sealed lens--I can't 
 deny that, but I've become very skilled at walking between raindrops--so I 
 got me a work-around :-).

 Cheers, Christine/Chicago




 On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com 
 wrote:
 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:

 I was having a hard time justifying the purchase at the old
 price, due to the lens' uneven reputation.  I can't imagine shelling
 out at the new price.

 I bought my 16-50 as soon as the lens was introduced and it's worked
 without a hitch for years, including several rain-sodden hikes across
 Grandfather Mountain. It's my most-used lens.

 I know I'm just one data point but it's the data points that
 experience a failure that usually make the loudest noises ;-)

 I remember you telling me how much you like that lens!  And a couple
 of times since then, I've been ready to pull the trigger, and... I see
 a fresh batch of mixed reviews, and I stop.  Beyond that, I don't love
 the external zoom... The weather sealing is nice, but... really, I'm
 not much for rainy hikes.  All that humidity totally wrecks my hair.

 :)
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Re: PESO: Tractorotica

2012-04-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like it.  The BW rendition really highlights the details and
textures which is the interesting part of old machinery (IMHO).  Good
parking space, too.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Dave!

 I knew you'd be one who might be interested in seeing it.

 -- Walt


 On 4/3/2012 4:54 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 My kinda ride. Nicely done

 Dave

 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Hi all,

 I know there are a few folks on the list who like old tractors, and I
 happened upon another one today while I was out on an otherwise
 non-productive photowalk. I left too early and the sun was too high --
 same-old, same-old. I suppose I got a few decent shots, but nothing that
 I'm
 enthusiastic about working on beyond this one, so I figured I'd share it
 for
 those who appreciate this sort of thing.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6894840204/
 K20D, A-50/1.7, f/5.6, ISO 500, 1/100

 Hope y'all like it! If not, comments and critiques are always welcomed.

 Thanks!

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Re: OT- Camera Auction, very OT.

2012-04-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
That was not what I was expecting.

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 http://www.michaelyon-online.com/camera-auction.htm

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Re: Pentax FF

2012-04-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think of you as more of cheapskate than a tightwad, Christine.  Just
for the record.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:


 Christine was complaining that the DA* 16-50mm was too expensive for
 her when it cost $800, which is a bargain when you consider what
 Canikonians pay for the standard f/2.8 zooms, and she's far from the
 only one. The core Pentax userbase is a bunch of tight bastards who
 spend money only at gun-point (I'm one of them) and I don't see them
 (us) buying a $3,000 FF from Pentax.

 Hang on -- how did I get to be the posterchild for Pentax Tightwads?!
 :) Just to clarify -- my doubts about that lens have more to do with
 its spotty reputation... deserved or not... and its unseemly zoom
 behavior.  I happily spent at least as much on the 50-135, and know
 what a bargain it is, compared to the (FF) equivalents of the other
 brands.  I won't detail the rest of my gear purchases, but believe me,
 I'm down with spending.

 But cheapskate or no, 800 bucks is 800 bucks.  If I'm not convinced I
 want the product, I'm not going to spend it.  As it is, each time I
 think about buying a new lens (or body), I go through the motions of
 convincing myself that Pentax  I are in it for the long haul. They're
 putting out lots of mixed signals, for sure.

 I would be very interested to know just who the core Pentax userbase
 really is, btw.  Obviously, the samples here and at PF must be small
 in comparison to the general population... and I wonder how different
 the demographic is here in the US vs. Europe vs Japan, for ex?

 :)
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Re: Pentax FF

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm just fine with this.  It was well done in that it listed a
reasonable set of specs, a price point, and then said just kidding.
It wasn't really subtle but a pretty clear message to PR.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-04-01 16:49 Darren Addy wrote

 I've got to believe that Ricoh Pentax Japan is not terribly overjoyed
 to be implicated in this April Fools joke. It is one thing for a
 company (like Google) to do an April Fools joke in its own name. It
 would be quite another for a company (like Google) to do an April
 Fools book about another company (like Yahoo for example). Yet that is
 what Adam did to Pentax and he made a lot of consumers rather mad in
 the process. Particularly given that the April Fools concept is not
 necessarily understood by all cultures, I think this was an especially
 dumb move.


 it seems to me you must think Pentax is a rather fragile target, as it's
 quite common to do spoofs like this at the expense of consumer product
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Re: Pentax FF

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
A question to the more engineering oriented ones on the list.  How
hard would it be for Pentax to stick a FF sensor in something like a
K5 body?

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm just fine with this.  It was well done in that it listed a
 reasonable set of specs, a price point, and then said just kidding.
 It wasn't really subtle but a pretty clear message to PR.

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 on 2012-04-01 16:49 Darren Addy wrote

 I've got to believe that Ricoh Pentax Japan is not terribly overjoyed
 to be implicated in this April Fools joke. It is one thing for a
 company (like Google) to do an April Fools joke in its own name. It
 would be quite another for a company (like Google) to do an April
 Fools book about another company (like Yahoo for example). Yet that is
 what Adam did to Pentax and he made a lot of consumers rather mad in
 the process. Particularly given that the April Fools concept is not
 necessarily understood by all cultures, I think this was an especially
 dumb move.


 it seems to me you must think Pentax is a rather fragile target, as it's
 quite common to do spoofs like this at the expense of consumer product
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Re: PESO: Girl in the Shower

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, that took me a second to realize it was a statue.  I particularly
like the placement of the mirror.

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 I finally found a woman who would would pose without any clothes on for me:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455620

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Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think we can all agree that a $31,770 white leather Leica is a joke.
 The real question is whether or not they intended it as such.;-)

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 lol! are we sure that isn't a late April Fools Day joke?
 Can't imagine who would buy a white leather-covered camera.


 Inuit with more blubber than sense

 one misleading detail, however, is saying that the unicorn variant goes
 for $31,770 over the regular model's $8,000. Regular model M9-P (itself
 a special variant ...!) goes for $8000, sure, but without any lens at
 all. That lens goes for another $11,000 so the competing standard model
 is $19,000 ... so a 40% premium for a limited edition special of a
 special edition ...

 Hmm. Maybe it is worth it ..


 I'll buy one when they can deliver it to me on a real unicorn.

 And I won't fall for the old albino rhinoceros trick again...

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Re: Pentax FF

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Good point.  I should have added in a way that results in a
functional camera :-o

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:03 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Steven Desjardins


 A question to the more engineering oriented ones on the list.  How
 hard would it be for Pentax to stick a FF sensor in something like a
 K5 body?


 Ball peen hammer, hydraulic press, some duct tape or super glue ... no
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Re: Pentax FF

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's all heresay anyway.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com 
 wrote:
 When we had a good friend who was one of Pentax's top reps
 (many of you know him) on the list (lurking) he would even tell Pentax
 who were the kooks to be ignored.

 I think this year’s Annual should definitely have a “kooks to be
 ignored” section.  -T

 In order to avoid the ignominy of finding my entry there when my copy
 arrives, I hear-by nominate myself for inclusion.

 Damned spell-chequer.

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Re: Considering how much Leicas cost...

2012-04-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
It would go so well with my white loafers . . .

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Apr 2, 2012, at 15:16, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts

 ...don't you think the company could afford a more skilled Photoshop
 artist to create their composite images?
 http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/22/leicas-m9-p-white-unicorn-for-japan/
 (Perhaps the image was put together by Engadget...)

 Sad.

 Already up on Photoshop Disasters.

 http://www.psdisasters.com/2012/03/leica-shutter-bugged.html


 An alternate view of this combination suggests it's not as shoppy as you 
 might presume:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tokyocamerastyle/7005667757/lightbox/

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Re: Hello Nothing great

2012-04-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
I really like #1.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Christine Aguila
christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:  Wow!  I just blazed through an insanely busy patch at work; I'm 
 whipped and blurry-eyed.  But I made it through.  I put together this little 
 gallery just to remind myself that I'm a member of a very nice photo group 
 and that I need to start taking pictures again.  No need to comment--just a 
 little exercise for the photographer within.

 Hope is well by everyone!  Christine in Boston--very sorry to hear about your 
 K-5.  Bummer.  I feel your pain.  Hope it works out ok and the camera is not 
 gone too long. Big cheers, Christine/Chicago

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Re: PESO: Safety First

2012-04-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
How cute is that?

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another great portrait, PU.  Of course, you do have an exceptional
 model there.

 She may work cheap now, but what until you get those college bills.

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Re: GESO: Inaugural K20D photowalk results

2012-04-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  The Dof is well used in the first shot.  I also like the dog
catching the food.  The K20D is a very capable body.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It's an accepted fact that the K20D is a sure cure for Tourette syndrome. at 
 no extra charge. ;-)

 Jack




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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 7:26 AM
 Subject: Re: GESO: Inaugural K20D photowalk results

 Thanks, Jack!

 I have to say, I'm elated with the K20D. I never said dammit a single
 time while I was using it -- which is more than I can say for my own brain.

 -- Walt

 On 4/1/2012 7:04 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Impressive images, Walt!  Great image quality, especially considering the 
 web size files.

 Jack



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 Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:54 PM
 Subject: GESO: Inaugural K20D photowalk results

 Hi all!

 Well, I'm just absolutely beaming right now. I L.O.V.E this camera!

 The first thing I noticed about it was how much more quickly it focuses with 
 my A 50/1.7 and how I managed to get shots with it that I never would have 
 gotten with my K-x. There really is no comparison.

 Here's about 20 shots I grabbed today -- out of a total of 86 taken. They're 
 a bit redundant, unfortunately, but that's because I couldn't make up my 
 mind which ones I liked best. I rarely get anywhere near that percentage in 
 keepers from either of my other two bodies. And I'm just astounded that 
 anyone could possibly have a knock against the IQ of this camera.

 Anyway -- here are the results of my first outing with it:

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629712433629/

 Comments, critiques and suggestions are welcome as always. But, I have to 
 say I'm pretty happy with the results given the fact that I know almost 
 nothing about this camera. I can't wait to get familiar with it.

 -- Walt

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Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?

2012-03-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Enjoy.  If I remember correctly, the K20D shutter sounds like a Harley
with straight pipes.  Of course, I do get more confused as I age.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:25 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm anxious to hear the shutter on the K20D, myself. The K-x and K100D sound
 completely different, so I assume the K20 will have its own sound as well.

 More than anything, though, I'm anxious to see how it performs with fast
 primes like my K 50/1.4  A 50/1.7 and I'm sure the other cameras could use
 a rest, too.

 -- Walt


 On 3/27/2012 5:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Lately, I've taken to having the K20D handy with a lens mounted. The
 beautiful K-5 has been worked pretty hard for some months and has earned a
 bit of a rest.
 There is just something about the capable K20 and its crisp clean
 shutter sound that draws me back from time to time. Too good to lay idle.

 Jack


 
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?

 Ha! Thanks, Kenneth!

 As I understand it, you have to get the cameras /before/ the woman --
 otherwise, it becomes an either/or proposition.

 I'm really looking forward to taking the K20D out for a few hundred clicks
 as soon as I get my hands on it. I'm sure it'll more than fulfill any
 photographic need I could possibly have for the foreseeable future.

 -- Walt

 On 3/27/2012 3:00 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Sounds more like you need a woman than the K20D !VBG  ENJOY

 I've had my K20D since they first came out and it remains my primary
 body, with a K10D as backup. I've resisted the urge to go after the latest
 offerings from Pentax as the 20D fulfills my needs. Now if a better AF
 Pentax DSLR came along

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Enablement: What has two thumbs and a Pentax K20D?


 Well, you're an exceptionally jaded and cynical person who long ago
 allowed reality to throttle every last bit of poesy from your being.

 Me? I am a defiant romantic.

 -- Walt

 On 3/27/2012 9:56 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 I've had a K20D for the last year and and 1/2 and all I have to say is
 what ever you're smokin' I want some.

 On 3/27/2012 10:15 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 A: *This guy.*

 So, I'm now gazing longingly out the window in anticipation of the
 imminent arrival of said fine piece of photographic equipment, dreaming 
 the
 dreams of a lovelorn photographer whose yet unrequited love sits on a 
 shelf
 awaiting delivery to its ultimate destination -- perhaps destiny itself.

 Bring on the upstart models bristling with lighting rigs clutched to
 their supple breasts, and all of the earth's most enchanting flora and
 fauna, perpetually frozen in fortuitous poses as though born between the
 pages of a photograph album.

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Re: Big news!!

2012-03-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
You've always had a good sense of what around you was important and it
shows in your pictures.  Use a K-01 just to show off.  ;-)

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Thanks so so much guys!  Its all happening!  So exciting!

 CR Kennedy (Pentax Australia) have just called me to interview me for their
 Masterclass series.  So exciting but now I feel under
 pressure to perform to a certain expected level.  What if I stuff up?
 Aaargh! I think I have set the bar too high, now I need to make
 sure I am always bettering what I have previously done...  The pressure!
 Lol.

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 David J Brooks
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 7:59 AM
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 Subject: Re: Big news!!

 Thats great news, congrats

 Dave

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Hey guys and gals!

 Ok, well, I know I have been ultra quiet around here of late, but
 there is a good reason.  Its because I have been busier than a beaver!
 BUT, I have some news to share and wanted you to be among the first to
 know as you guys have been with me almost since I purchased my very first
 camera.

 so, guess who was just announced to be the AIPP Qld
 Professional Family Photographer Of The Year (Runner Up) for 2012??
 :-)

 I was pipped at the post by a really beautiful lady who specializes in
 amazing newborn portraits, by, wait for it, ONE point.  Grrr!! One
 point separated us!

 Even so, it is only my second year of entering the awards and I am
 extremely happy with this feather to put in my cap.  REALLY hoping
 next year I can find that extra point though!

 And now I have to get busy preparing my prints for the APPAs
 (Australian Professional Photography Awards) in May.  I can only hope
 to do so well there too!

 Thank you to everybody here for your words of wisdom and advice over
 the years, I share this title with all of you!

 Tan. x.


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Re: My K-5 is going to Arizona...

2012-03-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
 Don't jinks us...

The renowned fraternal empathy of the PDML.  ;-)


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't jinks us...

 On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Boohoo.

 Mirror flops have resurfaced.  Randomly activating mirror is what
 Randall on Pentax live chat calls it.  Of course, he says he couldn't
 say what causes it.  It's a bummer - I do love this camera in so many
 ways, it really stinks that it's less than 6 months old.  And, I've
 been busy with it -- there's never a good time to be without your
 favorite camera, I guess.   Thankfully I have my K-7, but it's just
 not the same...

 Can I be the only one here on the pdml who's seen this affliction?
 'Fess up if you've had it, no need to be ashamed...

 :)
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Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think (hope) that the K-01 is really a prototype and that a more
refined, smaller, etc. K-02 will follow.  The K20 was the K10 fixed,
as was the K5 to the K7.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:57 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/21/2012 10:02 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:

 On 22/03/2012, at 6:27 AM, Miserere wrote:

 Paul,

 The problem I see with your sales pitch is that is fails to account
 for those users who are growing *into* mirrorless, not *out* of it.

 That's just the point - this isn't a camera aimed at that segment of the
 market. Pentax now has two cameras that are completely different to the rest
 of the market, and therefore aren't competing with Sony, Panasonic etc. If
 you want a truly pocketable camera, then there is the Q - nothing else is
 that small. If you have vague aspirations to go further with your
 photography then the K-01 is a way of hedging your bets. At this point
 Pentax has to be different from the rest of the crowd, otherwise their
 mirrorless offering would sink without trace, just like their PS cameras.


 Sadly Pentax doesn't seem to be competing period.  It's one thing to be
 different.  But there's only so far different will take you.   They should
 have at least have made provision for a decent accessory EVF.


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Re: K-r successor coming soon?

2012-03-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Agglutinative?  That give the wordsmith in me tumescence.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Nicknames at my school were agglutinative. We had one lad called John
 William Clive Semolina Sebastian Plum Pudding Boot-on-the-Hill
 Five-and-a-Half in Coldfield, and another called Big Fat Bastard Swine Dog
 N-.

 It was the 70s.

 B

 Never heard of him, but we had Wahoo McDaniel, Black Jack Mulligan 
 Ric Flair.


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  I hated Killer Kowalski when I was a kid.
 
  -- Walt
 
  On 3/21/2012 9:26 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
  I love Kowalski Kielbasa. They're a bit spicier than the typical
 sausage and grill up real nice.
 
  Paul
 
 
  On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:38 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  You want to be Peter Lik, Steve wants to be Stanley Kowalski; this
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Re: PESO - A Scooter Named Desire

2012-03-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Makes me want to rip my t-shirt.  ;-)  Nice shot and title.

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danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cute title, and nice image.
 Dan Matyola
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 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:17 PM, frank theriault
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 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/scooter-named-desire.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Sorry about the title.  Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: K-r successor coming soon?

2012-03-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Makes me want to rip my t-shirt.  ;-)  Nice shot and title.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:48 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 19/03/2012 19:53, Larry Colen wrote:

 I think that the single biggest thing Pentax could do to sell more cameras
 is to get them into stores where people can buy them.


 Would work for me, so Mark!


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Re: K-r successor coming soon?

2012-03-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Unfortunately, in my pre-coffee stupor I managed to post that comment
to the wrong thread.  It makes more sense over there in a Scooter
named Desire.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hated Killer Kowalski when I was a kid.

 -- Walt


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 I love Kowalski Kielbasa. They're a bit spicier than the typical sausage
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 Paul


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 You want to be Peter Lik, Steve wants to be Stanley Kowalski; this has
 become a ~non-sequitor~ thread.

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank

 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. --
 Christopher Hitchens

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 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com  wrote:

 Larry Colen wrote:

 I think that the single biggest thing Pentax could do to sell
 more cameras is to get them into stores where people can buy them.

 Well, yeah. But that's a little like saying the best way to become
 rich is to make lots of money. It's true, but doesn't provide much
 helpful information about how to accomplish the task.

 Oh pt! *That's* no biggee, mate. Climb stuff, take wide scenic
 shots, crank the saturation to 11, print 'em real big and flog 'em on
 cable TV. Drag along a videographer to document how hard you work.

 Piece o' cake.

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Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
I think it's K-french poodle.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 http://photorumors.com/2012/03/19/pentax-k-r-successor/

 My eyeball-based deconvolution algorithm says K-z.

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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
My question:  where is the advantage?  Is there any way Leica could
develop a purely BW sensor that had advantages that it wouldn't have
if it did color as well?

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 It has occurred to me that one of the stupid things about making a
 digital camera with a black-and-white-only sensor would be that it
 would be like buying a film camera that would only work with one kind
 of film. OK, you could have different sensitivity settings, but BW
 films had their own sensitivity curves and reacted differently to red,
 green and blue light. You could change things with filters, of course,
 but those are not nearly flexible/versatile to make one film emulate
 the RGB sensitivity curves of another.

 In a digital camera you can emulate the looks of different BW films
 to some extent by working with the individual RGB curves during raw
 processing, but the sensor has to capture individual RGB data in the
 first place - a BW-only sensor wouldn't permit this so you'd be
 locked into one look forever. If Leica were to make a BW-only
 camera, one way around this would be to use a color sensor and
 implement the BW limitation in software. That seems a bit silly (not
 that some people wouldn't buy it anyway).

 If the Leica rumor turns out to be real, perhaps they are implementing
 the BW-only limitation in software but using the kind of sensor Kodak
 announced a few years ago with a non-Bayer pattern that sacrifices
 some color sensitivity for greater luminance sensitivity . Here's the
 DP Review article about it:
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2007/6/14/kodakhighsens


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Re: OT: Happy Pi Day

2012-03-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
 If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or
shouldn't) exist, unless there's a 14th month out there I haven't
heard about

That alone is a reason to switch.


On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:

 3/14 is Pi Day!  http://www.piday.org/



 But, but, but.

 3/14 only works in those parts of the world where the date is in mm/dd/
 format.

 If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or shouldn't)
 exist, unless there's a 14th month out there I haven't heard about

 :-)





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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
I want the workers' camera that shoots only red.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 on 2012-03-15 17:42 Bob W wrote
  Nothing that Leica does would surprise me, but I might be a bit
  surprised if they do that.

 howz about an eco-camera that shoots only green?


 powered by the envy of others...

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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-15 Thread Steven Desjardins
That was well said, Godfrey.  We tend to forget that BW is an
abstraction (and not just a simplification) of what we perceive as the
color world.


On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM, JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 yeah, but what if you get other bonus stuff in exchange for a BW
 only sensor like higher resolution, and better sensitivity, or much lower
 cost?
 If all you got extra with a BW sensor is lack of color of course nobody
 would want it.

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 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Let's rephrase that question:

 Would you like a camera with two stops more sensitivity, and three or
 four times the resolution?

 Don't mix up the subject of resolution and sensitivity. A Bayer mosaic
 sensor with a given dimension photosite array has exactly the same
 spatial resolution as a non-mosaic sensor with that same set of
 dimensions. The only way you get more resolution is to add photosites
 and reduce antialiasing requirements. A Bayer mosaic sensor
 interpolates chrominance values per output pixel, not the spatial
 values of points in the scene it captures.

 What if you had to give up color to get it?

 Color doesn't come for free.  In order to get color, you have to throw
 away a lot of light at each sensor site.  If all you ever photograph are
 technically easy subjects like models in the studio, barns, or cats in
 plenty of light, then incrementally better performance isn't a big deal.  If
 you find yourself pushing the performance envelope of your camera and having
 to convert to BW, not for specific effect but because the noise is less
 obnoxious in BW than in color,  an added stop of performance can be worth
 it.

 Here's the deal:

 The key to BW photography is that it is a non-linear capture of a
 color universe abstracted into a set of monochromatic tonal
 relationships. One of the vectors is the translation of chrominance to
 luminance. When we were working with BW film, we chose films with
 particular spectral characteristics and then added filtration in front
 of the lens to tweak those spectral characteristics to match the
 particular end tonal relationships we wanted. For instance, red and
 green at the same luminance look the same when cast into monochromatic
 values. But to capture their perceptual/emotional difference
 correctly, we need to differentiate them. So we use filters that
 separate them (red filters makes red things brighter, green things
 darker, and vice versa).

 When we moved into the digital capture realm, BW become a rendering
 exercise instead of a capture exercise ... it's dependent upon how we
 evaluate and translate the chrominance values into luminance, not how
 the sensor captures the data that we work from. We pay a small price
 for this in terms of putting filters on the photosites, reducing
 sensitivity by some amount (not two stops, given the same photosite
 array dimensions) to capture the whole range of spectral data, and by
 doing so we gain massive amounts of rendering flexibility.

 With a sensor that only captures monochromatic values, we're back to
 considering BW at capture time ... so we have to pull out the filters
 again in order to adjust chrominance to luminance translation at
 capture time, cutting sensitivity by at least as much as the Bayer
 color mosaic does.

 I'd rather have the flexibility. I've worked with monochromatic
 digital capture cameras way back in the digital dark ages (1980s) and
 have NO interest in going back there. I want the ability to manipulate
 chrominance to luminance translation at rendering time, not at capture
 time, with a larger, more robust captured dataset.

 I probably wouldn't drop the dosh on the Leica version though, even if I
 had Godfrey's toy budget.

 LOL!

 Sorry, the Leica isn't a toy. I don't consider it as such. A K5 or
 K-01 might be a toy to you ... to me the Leica M9 is a serious
 instrument for making photographs, as would either the K5 or K-01 be
 if I went to purchase them. By making that statement, you are implying
 a) that I have a lot of money and b) that I toss money around without
 discretion, Larry.

 I don't on either count. I studied and considered what I wanted to
 work with for more than a year before I came to the decision, and not
 lightly, that it was the Leica M9. And then I saved up the money to
 obtain the M9 and bought it.

 Now having spent the money for the camera and the lenses I want to use
 with it, and having spent some time to learn to use it, I can say
 without a doubt that if I could only have one camera, I'd sell
 everything else in a heartbeat. It suits me perfectly and is a tool
 worth every penny I've put into it. It is 

Re: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01

2012-03-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
From my reading of the review, it doesn't say that the K-01's contrast
detection AF is much worse than anyone else's, just that it's worse
than phase detection AF.  This is still true in general for mirrorless
system cameras.  I'm not saying it's great  but merely that they
didn't compare the contrast detection AF with anything else.

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 - Mensaje original -

 De: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Asunto: Pentax Forums in depth review of the K-01


 http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/pentax-k-01-review/




 It is a bit sad to read that autofocus is still Pentax Achilles' heel, now 
 with contrast detection AF.


 But for me, and after my experience with a Sony NEX, the real problem of
 this camera is the lack of articulated LCD screen and (at least optional) 
 electronic
 viewfinder. And this time it is not a problem of space, I would say...

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Re: OT - Online critics

2012-03-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
  These kind of tests also reveal something of the nature of famous
photos.  A lot of folks don't like Picasso either.  ;-)

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:10 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I came across this via FB today...

 There is a flickr group called deleteme where images in the groups
 pool of photos is voted on to either be be retained of deleted.

 Someone decided to test members visual literacy  photographic
 knowledge by submitting this photo (read the comments):

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/andrerabelo/70458366/

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Re: OT: Ever wanted to see a Parcel Package Route Map

2012-03-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
The world is flat.  It's just that space-time is curved.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:49 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:33, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

 Yeah sometimes I can be a bit obsessive so I located the following site to
 track packages giving you a visual map:

 http://www.packagemapping.com/


 Here's my brother's most-recent iPad (iPad 2, refurbished) purchase if you 
 need a number to see how it looks:

 http://www.packagemapping.com/?action=trackshipper=upsmitracknum=497394749006uniqueID=;

 Told ya the world was flat

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Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII

2012-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I was just struck by the sheer quality of those images, essentially
from that long ago.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great pix - technically and historically.  Thanks for the link.

 ASA (ISO) was really slow back then.  I bought double 8mm and 35mm
 Kodachrome that was ASA 12 in the late 1950's.  Thought it was a great
 improvement when they came out w/Kodachrome 25.   :)

 -p


 On 3/13/2012 8:58 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Cool photos!
 4x5 Kodachromes from the WWII era.
 I wonder about the lighting set-up.
 They are all well lit.
 Wasn't it Kodachrome 14 or slower in those days?
 The lighting is striking.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Bong Manayonbongmana...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Wow.  I showed them to my students who thought they were cos-players.

 Bong

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 A site I got form another forum:

 http://pavel-kosenko.livejournal.com/303194.html?thread=22669914

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Re: OT: Ever wanted to see a Parcel Package Route Map

2012-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I just get the form.

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 Yeah sometimes I can be a bit obsessive so I located the following site to
 track packages giving you a visual map:

 http://www.packagemapping.com/

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Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII

2012-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's interesting, John.  By the time I started doing serious
photography, electronic flashes had taken over.  I really don't know
the characteristics of flashbulbs.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:06 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Flashbulbs

 From: Bob Sullivan

 Cool photos!
 4x5 Kodachromes from the WWII era.
 I wonder about the lighting set-up.
 They are all well lit.
 Wasn't it Kodachrome 14 or slower in those days?
 The lighting is striking.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 wrote:

 Wow. ?I showed them to my students who thought they were cos-players.

 Bong


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 http://pavel-kosenko.livejournal.com/303194.html?thread=22669914

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Re: 4x% Kodachromes from WWII

2012-03-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Those are indeed lovely images. Since most of what we see of that era
is black and white, this lends a feeling of modernity.  It wasn't that
long ago.

Well said, Tom.  I was trying to express this very idea but couldn't
verbalize it.


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was just struck by the sheer quality of those images, essentially
 from that long ago.


 A site I got form another forum:

 http://pavel-kosenko.livejournal.com/303194.html?thread=22669914

 Give them a minute to load. ?Well worth the look.
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 Those are indeed lovely images. Since most of what we see of that era
 is black and white, this lends a feeling of modernity.  It wasn't that
 long ago.

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Re: frank's sunrise photo

2012-03-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Very nice.  Few are sentimental about winter as it goes away, yet it
does have its beauty and it's not always snow.

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 On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:29:15 -0700
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 That's quite lovely, frank.

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/late-winter-sunrise.html

 yes. very atmospheric and moody as someone else pointed out...

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4x% Kodachromes from WWII

2012-03-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
A site I got form another forum:

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Re: Peso: wishful thinking

2012-03-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
For some reason, I'm getting a whole gallery.  It's very nice, but
what would identify the picture so I can go looking for it.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 On 3/5/2012 20:26, steve harley wrote:

 on 3/4/12 9:55 PMAnn Sanfedele wrote



 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-Snaps-2011/15389206_cBJMSB/1/1736512949_8DhMnDS/Large


 very enjoyable image in which i find many layers of meaning and no-meaning

 a note on a subtle aspect of the presentation: the caption about lack of
 snow, while interesting, first focused my mind on a simple irony,
 somewhat deterring me from relishing the deeper absurdity of the image


 second thoughts... I guess thats why 'Untitled is the best title..

 and looking at it again, I see what you mean about the other absurdities -
 the silly trees in the the green bin and the stacks of
 something contributed..

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Re: OT: Daylight Savings Time Starts Tomorrow in the US

2012-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
We could leave the clocks alone and start everything an hour earlier.

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 Figures. I finally got all the damn clocks around here set to the right time
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Re: OT: Daylight Savings Time Starts Tomorrow in the US

2012-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just as I got around to dating everything 2012.

LOL.


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 Figures. I finally got all the damn clocks around here set to the right
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Re: Back in a week

2012-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
 My wife and I honeymooned there way back in '69.  A few months later the
 hotel we stayed at burned down

Did you use a timer or radio control?


On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Brian Walters
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz:

 I'm unsubscribing as we're off on honeymoon to Norfolk Island tomorrow.
  To catch the plane we have to get up at an hour that shouldn't exist, but
 I'm still looking forward to the trip.  Janet's uncle told me it's the place
 for newlyweds and nearlydeads so I'm sure we'll fit right in :D

 Yes, I'm bringing my camera.  I don't know what the situation is like for
 internet access over there but if it's cheap and easy enough I might
 resubscribe and post a few PESOs...



 Have fun.  It's a beautiful place.

 My wife and I honeymooned there way back in '69.  A few months later the
 hotel we stayed at burned down


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Re: peso: where this man has never gone before

2012-03-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Have fun, be safe, don't fall off.

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 Can't wait to see the pictures!  Have a great time!  Cheers, Christine


 On Mar 10, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Subash wrote:

 come may first, i'll be heading to the himalayas again, on a 15-days
 trek. we are hiring mules this time to carry our backpacks (and tents
 and cooking stuff) so that leaves me free to carry a little extra photo
 gear.

 taking the mz-5n which i enabled myself with recently and managed
 to find myself some rolls of fuji superia reala. unchartered
 territories for me. but looking forward to it actually. :)

 https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Peso#5718290870842495522

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25 mm f1.1 lens for Pentax Q

2012-03-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
This is neat (an expensive):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem_trksid=p4340.l2557item=280833393275nma=truert=ncsi=tMOvvekaE3H7Uyr%252BRqUImsqAtAg%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc#ht_7559wt_1042--

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Re: Le masque et le carnaval

2012-03-03 Thread Steven Desjardins
Very nice.  You hang with a colorful crowd.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 On 2/3/12, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

 ...is the subject of my French cinema class this term, so I have put
 together a collection of my photos on the subject for my co-students,
 and share it with you. You've seen most of them before, but some are
 probably new to you.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/MasqueCarnaval/

 Enjoyed them all. First class.


 grassy arse, as they say in Spain.

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Re: PESO: Spring Has Sprung!

2012-03-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice.  As flowers go, the crocuses will push their way up through the
the snow if necessary.  Crocuses are not so much a sign of spring as
spring flipping off winter.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 David Mann

  Don't you mean upside down under?


 I have no idea what you're talking about :)

 http://flourish.org/upsidedownmap/


 I like Buckminster Fuller's Dymaxion maps - they're really good at showing
 the world's connectedness. This is a great example:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-of-human-migrations.jpg

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Re: Workin on the RR

2012-03-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
Lovely tones.  The flare is not really an issue at all.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Dan, This trestle runs maybe 1.5 miles with oh a 100' drop into the
 river valley. The track runs down the middle with the walkway created by the
 RR ties on both sides for the repair crews to stand on. However there is
 only a hand rail on the one side so they could not pay me enough to go out
 there although there are two bump outs to stand on if the train comes
 through.

 Every year kids go out there and the police have to stand at each end to
 wait for them as they are not allowed to go out after them for fear the kids
 might fall off trying to escape.

 Another interesting note: supposedly the trestle is privately owned and the
 RR pays an amount for each wheel that crosses - at least twice a day.




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 Nice image, with great use of the lines for perspective.

 I'm not sure exactly what I am looking at , howvever;  is the central
 part of the image the ties from an inactive track?  What are the dark
 objects on the right?  Is the other rail between the visible rail and
 the fence on the left?  I like the mystery of it all
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Re: OT: Something hard to do with a digital camera

2012-02-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a really cool idea, too bad the pictures look like crap.

Mark.

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:37 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hated it - what was the point?

 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



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 On Feb 29, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Here they are presented as a Flickr slideshow:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriykotik/sets/72157625753792973/show/
 And for those who hate Flickr slideshows, a link to the set itself:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriykotik/sets/72157625753792973/with/6792660218/

 Just want to view one?
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/seriykotik/6792635624/in/set-72157625753792973/lightbox/

 My initial impression is that if one person does it then it's quite an 
 interesting way to
 make art, but if everyone does it I'll start to hate it very quickly.

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Re: OT: Roger Ebert quote regarding BW

2012-02-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
That is an intriguing quote.  It's hard to  describe the appeal of BW.

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 While doing a little research on last night's big Oscars winner (The
 Artist, which I knew nothing about) I ran upon this interesting quote
 from Roger Ebert (a relatively famous movie reviewer here in the U.S.)
 regarding his love of Black and White films. He said:

 I also love black and white, which some people assume they don't
 like. For me, it's more stylized and less realistic than color, more
 dreamlike, more concerned with essences than details.

 I think it is hard to put into words what I find so appealing about
 (well done) BW, but that isn't bad.

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That new 41 MP camera you've been looking for

2012-02-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/27/tech/mobile/mobile-gadgets/index.html
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Re: That new 41 MP camera you've been looking for

2012-02-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oops.  Missed the other thread.

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Re: PESO: Cotty and Kitty

2012-02-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
Looks comfy.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:13 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice

 Dave

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 Warning: Cat photo
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01535.jpg

 The man and his dear, now-departed cat Duki.
 From our visit to chez Cotty last month.


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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

2012-02-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
*WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*

I really like nudity, so I double clicked.

It has that HDR look to it, almost approaching computer animation in
appearance.  I like it quite a bit since this one is well done.


On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 23/2/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

That statement is a classic example of Markbait.

 Mark!

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An Old Kodak Lens being adapted for mu43

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Who cares? But the Google translation of the announcement is hilarious.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yasuhara.co.jp%2Fm%2Findex.html
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Re: An Old Kodak Lens being adapted for mu43

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
My favorite was Aperture Area of the Forbidden.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/24/2012 10:52 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Who cares? But the Google translation of the announcement is hilarious.


 http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yasuhara.co.jp%2Fm%2Findex.html

 Ha! I love it! Reminds me of one of my favorite SNL skits of all time, where
 Mike Meyers plays a Japanese television executive who was taking over a US
 network and was introducing a new sitcom to the lineup called Nude House of
 Wacky People. I've never been able to find it online and I've been looking
 for it for years, checking back every few months to see if someone has
 uploaded it to YouTube or some other video hosting site.

 Thanks for the laugh!

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Re: OT Mary Ellen Mark on iconic images

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
My LCD has shown me screwed-up shots that I have successfully
repeated.  If I'm shooting quickly then I don't check much because I
can't.  I guess it depends on what you are shooting.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Bruce Walker
brucessupect.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Speaking for myself, I find that disabling the LCD simply removes that
 distraction, and so encourages me to focus on the action (I'm somewhat
 ADD, so removing distractions helps me focus). It also speeds up
 shot-taking quite a bit as the camera doesn't have to waste time
 creating the preview JPEG.

 I still chimp a few reference shots to check exposure. It's trivial to
 just press the preview button now and then.

 I've been doing this for a couple of years now. I'm totally sold on it
 and would advise anyone to try it.


 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Good advice for her, not for everyone.

 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 She gives a piece of good advice: Turn the back [LCD] off.

 http://www.profoto.com/us/mary-ellen-mark-icon

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Re: An Old Kodak Lens being adapted for mu43

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Also very funny.  Sometimes translation leaves mostly truth.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:

 Who cares? But the Google translation of the announcement is hilarious.


 http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yasuhara.co.jp%2Fm%2Findex.html




 I like the final line: The infrequently updated. Please take a look
 occasionally.

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Re: GESO: Frontin'

2012-02-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oooh, the fish fillet is back . . .

Nice shots, Same weather here.

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 A cold front came through today, bringing high winds and rain. I shot
 a few frames on the way to the grocery store:

 http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/2012/02/frontin-28-28-03.html

 This is part of a new project: For Lent, I'm giving up all of my
 lenses except for the A28/2.8, which I just purchased from Perry and
 received yesterday. I'm still getting the hang of it, and fighting my
 difficulties manually focusing the K10D with a stock screen, but I
 think it did pretty well today.

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Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?

2012-02-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I appreciate the advice about KEH.  They really aren't my first choice
at all, but their email sparked this line of thought.  I would
certainly  try the PDML first.  My problem is that the K7 gets almost
no use anymore, as I tend to grab the E-P2 or X-10.  This leads me to
wonder if I should sell it now while it still has some value.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From:  Kenneth Waller

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 Subject: Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?


 From: Steven Desjardins

 This is a real question for me.  KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and
 it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that
 the latter will  have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ.
  Thoughts on this?

 If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want
 it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible,
 it's a no brainer.

 You've apparently never tried to sell anything to KEH.


 Moot point. If both conditions apply ... it is a no brainer.

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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

2012-02-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Of course, I was just going to write how much I like the blues and greens.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
 Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
 frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

 but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large


 Nice, although I would like to see it with slightly warmer tones.  Seems very 
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Re: PESO -- Pot hole

2012-02-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
 interesting geometric composition; if the bottom of the pothole were
black, it might be a little more surreal

Then it would be a black hole.

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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

2012-02-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
It is better.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 On 2/23/2012 12:58, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com  wrote:

 Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
 Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
 frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

 but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large


 Like the photo!

 Like the blues and greens, but it does seem just a hair more cyan than
 it ought to be. ;-)

 But I'm jealous that you got to the Bronx Zoo. I haven't been there in
 at least 30 years! I went to High School basically right across the
 street from the Zoo and used to go there often.


 It has lost some of it's glow.. a few things better - but a lot not as nice.

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Re: Live and learn

2012-02-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm not even sure a K5 would survive.  I don't think weather sealing
if aimed at hydrocarbon based compounds which can react with plastic
or rubber components.  Maybe an assistant to handle the parts while
you handle the camera would work better.

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coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 Looks like my choice of the K-r for a commercial environment was not 
 well-considered.  Initially I was going to be shooting cleaned parts.  But as 
 time has gone on the situation has changed.  Now I'm handling parts that are 
 still covered in tranny fluid.  And that has migrated to the camera.  A major 
 frustration.  Some contamination has occurred -- probably transfer from my 
 thumb to the camera controls.  The wheel/dial now goes only up, never down, 
 in value.  So tomorrow it is going off to Pentax for (warranty) service.  In 
 the mean time I'm going to dig up a K-5 (with extended warranty) for the main 
 body and relegate the K-r to backup status.

 I wish all camera functions could be controlled remotely, on a keypad built 
 for a harsh environment.  Might be a great commercial solution ...

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