Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG

2012-01-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography
friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that
camera they always wanted.  In that regard, the M9 would be high on my
list.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the comments!

 Steve,

 The M9 just arrived last Friday evening so this is all hot off the
 presses. :-)  These photos were taken with the Voigtländer Ultron 28mm
 f/2 and Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5.

 G

 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really like these.  I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's
 only a small example of my forgetfulness.  If I had gotten an M9, it
 would be the right camera for a long time ;-)  What lens?

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Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG

2012-01-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
Like I said, you're finally buying the camera I always wanted.  ;-)

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography
 friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that
 camera they always wanted.  In that regard, the M9 would be high on my
 list.

 Not quite my situation. I owned Leica gear for many years prior to the
 digital era, only reason I sold it was that at the time (2001-2002)
 there was no confidence that Leica itself would survive at all *and*
 no good confidence that it would even be possible to make these lovely
 lenses work correctly with a digital sensor. AND there was the
 opportunity to sell off my Leica gear and buy into a Hassy Superwide
 and 500C/M setup, something I'd always wanted to try.

 I've simply returned to where I was a decade ago with the acquisition
 of the M4-2 and M9. Where I was a decade ago, albeit then with all
 Leica lenses at 1/4 the price it would cost me now. It will take a
 while to afford all the same lenses again if I find I really need/want
 them.
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Peso: Olde Tyme

2012-01-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
My grandfather's gold pocket watch, form about 1965:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1686454339k=74x4rtLlb=1s=O

It's a pretty thing and still works perfectly.
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Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works
since you have to hold it to use it.  I'm not a fan of retro per se as
much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being
different.  Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will
slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to
hold.  I also like manual controls.  One person's styling is often
another person's function.  However, I will put up with a lot if the
IQ is really good.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group because 
 (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are photographers first, 
 Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that so many own other 
 brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded their Pentaxes ~in 
 toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than their loyalty to the 
 brand.

 You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your 
 photographic needs, will understand that.

 If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the 
 love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly 
 spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more 
 like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but I 
 will go elsewhere.

 There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just people 
 who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that suits our 
 needs.

 That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest.

 Cheers,
 frank



 --- Original Message ---

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 Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12
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 than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however.
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Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's great.  They look pretty happy about it as well.

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danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016

 Comments and criticisms invited.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
As for Olympus, I've noticed that many folks who use mu43 are current
or former Pentax users.  The most obvious overlap is a preference for
small SLRs.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works
 since you have to hold it to use it.  I'm not a fan of retro per se as
 much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being
 different.  Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will
 slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to
 hold.  I also like manual controls.  One person's styling is often
 another person's function.  However, I will put up with a lot if the
 IQ is really good.

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group 
 because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are 
 photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that 
 so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded 
 their Pentaxes ~in toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than their 
 loyalty to the brand.

 You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your 
 photographic needs, will understand that.

 If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the 
 love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly 
 spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more 
 like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but I 
 will go elsewhere.

 There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just people 
 who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that suits our 
 needs.

 That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest.

 Cheers,
 frank



 --- Original Message ---

 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com
 Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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 than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however.
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Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Agreed. I like my old cameras because the controls worked so well.
The presence of automatic modes makes these controls an afterthought,
and this becomes clear when you use the camera.  Most shots work fine
on auto but that actually makes it worse.  You don't' use the manual
controls as often, and when needed it's hard to react quickly.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 For me the styling is unimportant.  Retro that works is controls and
 ergonomics.  Since it's a m43 camera I doubt it will allow the use of legacy
 lenses better than any other m43 system camera so I'm not particularly
 excited.  I don't own any OM-Zuiko glass anyway, but many were outstanding
 lenses.

 I have friends who have OM systems, and they are a bit disappointed that
 Olympus didn't make as much effort as Pentax did to keep their old lenses
 compatible.  Most have moved on to low to mid level Canons...

 Using my existing lens kit is much more important than what the camera looks
 like.  Right now I have a system that can use every single bit of legacy
 gl\ass I own.

 If you want retro for retro sake, look at the Epson RD-1, now that's retro,
 even more so than the Leica M-9.


 On 1/24/2012 7:48 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 As for Olympus, I've noticed that many folks who use mu43 are current
 or former Pentax users.  The most obvious overlap is a preference for
 small SLRs.

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works
 since you have to hold it to use it.  I'm not a fan of retro per se as
 much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being
 different.  Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will
 slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to
 hold.  I also like manual controls.  One person's styling is often
 another person's function.  However, I will put up with a lot if the
 IQ is really good.

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com  wrote:

 An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group
 because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are
 photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that
 so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even 
 discarded
 their Pentaxes ~in toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than 
 their
 loyalty to the brand.

 You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your
 photographic needs, will understand that.

 If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the
 love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly
 spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more
 like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but 
 I
 will go elsewhere.

 There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just
 people who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that
 suits our needs.

 That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest.

 Cheers,
 frank



 --- Original Message ---

 From: Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com
 Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
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 than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however.
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Re: OT: Some sellers ...

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Amen, brother.   Easily the dumbest lens non-purchase I ever made.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Makes me wish I'd  bought one when BH had them new at $299.


 On 1/24/2012 6:58 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

 I was watching a KEH-listed FA 35/2 @ $399.
 The ad ended, but they relisted it @ $429.
 Strange.
 At least the relist has a make offer on it.

 Sincerely,

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Re: OT: A PDMLer's dirty little secret finally outed

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
OMG!  Pentax is so bad it drove Bill to painting!


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:59 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Semi-nekkid if you please.


 On 1/24/2012 4:55 PM, Bob W wrote:

 Imagine my surprise when I found the following about William Robb:

 From a humble background, Robb spent his formative years in Aberdeen, as
 an
 apprentice to a lithographer, before developing his artistic skills in
 Paris
 and London. A part of the 'New Romantic' movement', he exhibited at
 Aberdeen
 Artist's Society, the Royal Academy in London., and the Paris Salon. He
 specialised in still life portraits, later painting idyllic musical
 soiree's

 And there was I thinking he just did home renovations and nekkid beauties.

 http://www.theantiquedealers.com/product.php?cat=37

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
 (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?)

Because you can't paint like Bill.

One advantage of retro is that it is easier to avoid butt ugly.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:58 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 You stick with Pentax because of the lenses.

 Cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12
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 Subject: Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

 Just what the camera buying public wants a  butt ugly interchangeable
 lens camera with no viewfinder...

 (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?)

 On 1/24/2012 6:04 PM, Miserere wrote:
 On 22 January 2012 16:31, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org  wrote:
 Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com:

 I'd like to know the price tag :-)

 Since its a rumor, make it anything you want !



 OK.  I'd like it to be in K-r replacement territory (where I'm interested)
 rather than K-5 replacement territory (where I'm not).


 Cheers

 Brian

 Your wish might be granted!

 More rumours, and this time from someone who appears to have seen the
 camera. Valentín Sama, the editor of DSLR Magazine and originator of
 the rumour, is a respected Spanish journalist who often gets previews
 of new gear, so I have no reason to doubt him. What he said (tweeted)
 today about the Pentax mirrorless:

      * It's slightly smaller than the K-r
      * It's butt-ugly
      * It has a K mount able to accept current Pentax lenses
      * It has no eye-level viewfinder

 No info on the price, Brian, so continue to make it whatever you wish.

 Cheers,


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Re: Peso: Watching My Carb

2012-01-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's the ideas.  Nothing is stripped so far.  All the screws are
phillips head.  One came out, and there was no sign of Loctitie.  I'll
try some liquid wrench with the impact driver that should arrive
tomorrow.  If all that fails, I blast.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, Debbie is my wife.  I don't have a shot of her bike, which is now
 partially disassembled, but here's a web pic:

 http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/suzuki-savage/

 It's a small bike, which is why she likes it.

 A little thumper.

 I've got 5 bikes in the garage. Four of them are single-cylinder bikes.

 No suggestions about the photo, but for the screws on the carb, a
 dremel tool can cut a slot for a flatblade screwdriver if you strip
 the screw heads. Once you get them out, replace them with allen-head
 stainless steel screws.

 You can use a single strand from a piece of stranded copper wire to
 clean out the clogged jets in the carburetor.

 -Mat

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Re: Peso: Watching My Carb

2012-01-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL.  I've always known that in my heart.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Steve, I suspect you were aware of this Engineering Flowchart:
 http://i.imgur.com/DiHfU.png

 Cheers,

 Igor

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Re: Peso: Watching My Carb

2012-01-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, I sprayed the hell out of it with Liquid Wrench.  I also dumped
some sneaky remaining gasoline on my boot.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Steven Desjardins


 That's the ideas.  Nothing is stripped so far.  All the screws are
 phillips head.  One came out, and there was no sign of Loctitie.  I'll
 try some liquid wrench with the impact driver that should arrive
 tomorrow.  If all that fails, I blast.


 Find some way to soak it overnight in liquid wrench before attacking it with
 the impact driver.


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Re: More than rumor?

2012-01-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, that's a really upbeat commentary (for a change).  Now I'll
really curious.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Although Pentax didn’t announce anything at CES, they showed me a top
 secret model that’s going to be unveiled within the coming weeks. All
 I can say is that you’ve never seen anything like it from a design
 standpoint.

 2012 CES wrap-up:
 http://www.technobuffalo.com/cameras/photography/mikes-ces-2012-camera-wrap-up-and-predictions/

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Re: More than rumor?

2012-01-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Well, it will be a nice counterpoint to all those retro designs . . .

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm sure the design standpoint comment has to do with Marc Newson's
 hand and it is the mirrorless k-5 sensor camera that has been
 rumored...
 http://www.marc-newson.com/ProjectMosaic.aspx?GroupSelected=0

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Re: Peso: Watching My Carb

2012-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
I haven't seen B12 Chem tool.  I have seen PB Blaster.  Another to add
to the list.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:31 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 22/01/2012 01:52, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 My current workbench project:


 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1680803911k=gQw34Hglb=1s=O

 This is the carburetor to Debbie's motorcycle.  I'm trying to clean it
 without humiliating myself, but I am currently being balked by at
 least 7 frozen screws.  Anyway, I took this shot but hated the colors
 of the bench and wasn't thrilled with the BW version,  so I tried
 selective desaturation.

 Notice that when confronted with a true mechanical problem, I take a
 picture of it and re-read Pirsig's essay on stuckness.  More
 practically, I've order an impact driver from Lisle.


 When you get it apart, remove all the rubber bits and dissimilar metals like
 brass/bronze jets.  Fill a slow-cooker with neat antifreeze (the kind for
 alloy engines) and cook the carb overnight.  Not in the kitchen.  Rinse and
 enjoy.  Modelmakers discovered this trick for removing castor-oil deposits
 from engines.

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Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)

2012-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
They're all wanna be evil empires.  The new buzzword is ecosystem so
that you have to commit to everything produced or at least controlled
by one company.  Amazon and Google are doing the same thing, and
Wintel is gearing up for a new run.  Of course, that doesn't mean that
we should all be happy about it.  It's just the current level of
bastardness.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Last night while waiting for my ISP to take my call, I started a book with 
 the new iBooks Author app.  The really cool distinguishing features are the 
 widgets and their *extreme ease of use.*  In my test book, I inserted a 
 Keynote presentation using the Keynote widget; a photo with text using the 
 interactive widget; a gallery of photos using the, you guessed it, the photo 
 gallery widget;  a question with 4 multiple choice answers--identifying the 
 correct answer.  If the reader gets the wrong answer, s/he and try again.  Of 
 course, this was the question widget; The other widgets are 3D, movie, and 
 HTML.  I didn't have any content in these forms to insert.  I then exported 
 to my iBooks app, and it ran smooth as punch on my iPad.  Totally amazing.  
 While you are designing and laying out your book, you can preview your on 
 going work and any of the multimedia widgets with the iPad when it's hooked 
 up to your computer.

 It seems to me the reason to use this app is for its amazing widgets, and if 
 you're going to use them, then you'd need to feel fairly certain that the 
 majority of your readers would have the device capability to enjoy your 
 interactive book to the fullest.  I have no idea how an interactive book 
 produced with this app would run on, say, a Kindle or Nook device.  It runs 
 great on the iPad, and I suspect that was the main intent, and if your book 
 is only going to run great on an iPad, well then any mass distribution goals 
 might have to be reconsidered.

 If you're doing a book with just text and standard images or graphics, you 
 really don't need this app, though, obviously, you could still use it if you 
 wanted to.
 Cheers, Christine



 On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:16 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 So it's not quite an evil empire, it's a wanna be evil empire.

 On 1/22/2012 4:41 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 I don't see this as a big issue. Blurb gives me free software to layout 
 books to print/sell via Blurb. I can't use that software to print in any 
 other way, even on my own printer. (Well, I can print, but with a big Blurb 
 watermark on every page.) Anybody that doesn't want to print/sell 
 exclusively via Blurb can find some other software to use. Apple offers 
 free software to layout/distribute books via the Apple store. Anybody that 
 doesn't want to sell exclusively via Apple can find some other software to 
 use. Ho hum; no evil empire.

 stan

 On Jan 22, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 Apple's license (EULA) forbids you from distributing your work created 
 using
 Apple software.

 While the software discussed is not the one for photography, but for
 writing/publishing (iBooks Author), this can create a precedence.

 Read more about it here:
 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/apples-mind-bogglingly-greedy-and-evil-license-agreement/4360?tag=nl.e589
 http://venomousporridge.com/post/16126436616/ibooks-author-eula-audacity



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Re: Peso: Watching My Carb

2012-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yes, Debbie is my wife.  I don't have a shot of her bike, which is now
partially disassembled, but here's a web pic:

http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/suzuki-savage/

It's a small bike, which is why she likes it.


On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Christine Aguila
christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 I like selective desaturation and I like your shot here, but I'd really like 
 to see  a picture of Debbie's motorcycle.  Is Debbie your wife?  Cheers, 
 Christine


 On Jan 21, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 My current workbench project:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1680803911k=gQw34Hglb=1s=O

 This is the carburetor to Debbie's motorcycle.  I'm trying to clean it
 without humiliating myself, but I am currently being balked by at
 least 7 frozen screws.  Anyway, I took this shot but hated the colors
 of the bench and wasn't thrilled with the BW version,  so I tried
 selective desaturation.

 Notice that when confronted with a true mechanical problem, I take a
 picture of it and re-read Pirsig's essay on stuckness.  More
 practically, I've order an impact driver from Lisle.
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Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)

2012-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Of course they are doing it to make a profit.  That's also why
organized crime extorts money from businesses.  As you point out, they
do this for their own good and not ours.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 On Jan 22, 2012, at 16:33 , Steven Desjardins wrote:

 They're all wanna be evil empires.  The new buzzword is ecosystem so
 that you have to commit to everything produced or at least controlled
 by one company.  Amazon and Google are doing the same thing, and
 Wintel is gearing up for a new run.  Of course, that doesn't mean that
 we should all be happy about it.  It's just the current level of
 bastardness.

 Wouldn't that be the current level of wanting to be profitable enough to 
 stay in business?

 I know, we're speaking of the largest and most profitable of companies here. 
 But modern corporations learned 10-20 years ago you can't stay in business if 
 you give it away. Once they figured that out, they got greedy with those 
 profits, collecting the best aftermarket companies and bringing them inside. 
 Eventually, they saw the light of the product/consumer marriage and even 
 higher profits, almost guaranteed. They've also learned that no one found any 
 legal reason they could not pull support as they introduced newer products. 
 Software that made your hardware obsolete on odd years, hardware that made 
 your software obsolete during even years. For corporate and educational use, 
 this just about forces them to replace everything in IT to be able to compete 
 with the latest WOW stuff.

 But they only do this for your own good. Truth.


 Joseph McAllister
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 The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and
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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm not sure ejaculates is the precise phallic metaphor for which
you were searching. ;-)  My friend has one of those compact travel
zooms with an 18x zoom range.  It's a flat Dovebar camera, and when
the zoom extends, it really hard not to laugh.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Funny thing about ugly cameras.  Had to go downtown today.  I totally spaced 
 and got off at Chicago Ave, 1 stop sooner than I should have--should have 
 gotten off at Merchandise Mart.  So, it was a bit of a hike, along Franklin 
 Ave, especially in the snow we've had all day, and I had to walk straight 
 into the wind. While trekking through the snow, I got to thinking about 
 lenses.  I shot with the DA 16-45mm on the k-5 the other day, and I got the 
 feeling it wasn't focusing right on the k-5.  Then I got to thinking that I 
 really need a weather resistant wide angle zoom, which the DA 16-45mm isn't.  
 But I'm a bit out of luck there because I can't stand the way the 16-50mm DA* 
 ejaculates ; it's so vulgar, though I do recognize it takes nice pictures.  
 It's so different than the DA* 50-135mm, which maintains its lovely shape as 
 you zoom in and out.  Then I thought about all my lovely Pentax primes, DA 
 21mm, and the DA 40mm, so elegant, so lady-like.  Love'em to bits, but they 
 are not weather resistant, which is a bummer, because the last thing a woman 
 wants to do is get all dressed up and head out into the snow.  Cheers, 
 Christine




 On Jan 20, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 Well, I think that's a butt ugly camera.  Cheers, Christine :-)

 Naw.
 Now THIS is a butt ugly camera:
 http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/omega120/omega120.htm

 Obligatory Pentax content: One man's opinion -
 http://theclick.us/2012/01/butt-ugly-cameras/

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Larry, this is what makes me wonder about the flange distance.  The
new 40 could be a modified design, and the old DA might require an
adapter.  Nothing definitive here, but this kind of speculation is why
we all so enjoy rumors.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From
Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Also, why a new 40/2.8 when the da40 is so awesome unless it's a new mount?

 Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello John, surely you have lenses (6) inches or smaller, being a
seasoned Pentaxian. Why can't you go in to this event with the K-5
Body and lens(es) in separate bags. I have done this many times - body
in my coat pocket and lens(es) in a carry on bag. Surely the K-5 is a
mighty midget compared to many other cameras. Give it a try old chap.
Regards. Bipin.

As for the Pentax EVIL rumour, why would one buy a K-5 like speced
camera when the K-5 is pretty small itself. See no fun in using an
electronic viewfinder, if it has one. Lenses and compatibility w/o an
AF adapter still remains a big mystery, even though the rumour says
K-mount.

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
It makes sense to go mirrorless for the low end, where cost really
matters.  That doesn't mean there won't be a K5 replacement.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 It was 2006 everything was but ugly.


 On 1/20/2012 8:39 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Well, I think that's a butt ugly camera.  Cheers, Christine :-)



 On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 You have to do better than that, Christine.  To which depressing thing
 are you referring?  ;-)

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com
  wrote:

 Well that's depressing.



 On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Let's hope for this one:


 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/i-hope-marc-newson-can-make-a-better-pentax-k-design-than-that-one/

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Christine
 Aguilachrist...@caguila.com  wrote:

 I guess I agree with Paul, but I have to say it would break my heart
 to see the K5 to go away with no upgrade to follow.  I'd probably use my
 Pentax gear until I couldn't any more, then switch.   Cheers, Christine



 On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
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 On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Tom C wrote:

 Assuming I had a K-5, what would induce me to buy a mirrorless
 system
 that is essentially in all other respects, a K-5?

 The K5 being discontinued?

 If no DSLR upgrade were introduced, that would induce me to sell my
 gear and go to Nikon.

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Is that a Pentax in your pocket or are you happy to see me?  (Someone
had to say this.)


On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Jan 21, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 I can't stand the way the 16-50mm DA* ejaculates ; it's so vulgar,
 though I do recognize it takes nice pictures.  It's so different than
 the DA* 50-135mm, which maintains its lovely shape as you zoom in and
 out.

 Somehow, I didn't realize this was a feature of the 16-50... having
 the refined 50-135, it never occurred to me that its sibling would be
 so crude.  And I've been saving for the 16-50 as my next acquisition.
 This revelation is enough to make me reconsider.  Ick.

 And people wonder why I like to be the one behind the camera.


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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Shoulda used a smiley ;-)

or at least something about tumescence.


On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that I was JOKING when
 I said the reason for the specification similarity between the K5 and
 the rumor-camera-du-jour (mirrorless in this instance) was that the K5
 was being obsoleted.

 Shoulda used a smiley ;-)

 Steven Desjardins wrote:

It makes sense to go mirrorless for the low end, where cost really
matters.  That doesn't mean there won't be a K5 replacement.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:15 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 It was 2006 everything was but ugly.

 On 1/20/2012 8:39 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Well, I think that's a butt ugly camera.  Cheers, Christine :-)

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 You have to do better than that, Christine.  To which depressing thing
 are you referring?  ;-)

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com
  wrote:

 Well that's depressing.

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Let's hope for this one:

 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/i-hope-marc-newson-can-make-a-better-pentax-k-design-than-that-one/

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Christine
 Aguilachrist...@caguila.com  wrote:

 I guess I agree with Paul, but I have to say it would break my heart
 to see the K5 to go away with no upgrade to follow.  I'd probably use 
 my
 Pentax gear until I couldn't any more, then switch.   Cheers, Christine

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
  wrote:

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Tom C wrote:

 Assuming I had a K-5, what would induce me to buy a mirrorless
 system
 that is essentially in all other respects, a K-5?

 The K5 being discontinued?

 If no DSLR upgrade were introduced, that would induce me to sell my
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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's an up and coming trend.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Larry Colen wrote:


On Jan 21, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that I was JOKING when
 I said the reason for the specification similarity between the K5 and
 the rumor-camera-du-jour (mirrorless in this instance) was that the K5
 was being obsoleted.

I would say that this is exactly how rumors get started.  However, the K-5 
discontinuation rumor was already going strong.

 Good point.

 BTW, I've decided to use RCDJ now for rumor-camera-du-jour. Much
 quicker to type.

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Peso: Watching My Carb

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
My current workbench project:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1680803911k=gQw34Hglb=1s=O

This is the carburetor to Debbie's motorcycle.  I'm trying to clean it
without humiliating myself, but I am currently being balked by at
least 7 frozen screws.  Anyway, I took this shot but hated the colors
of the bench and wasn't thrilled with the BW version,  so I tried
selective desaturation.

Notice that when confronted with a true mechanical problem, I take a
picture of it and re-read Pirsig's essay on stuckness.  More
practically, I've order an impact driver from Lisle.
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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
I guess it could also have lens based focusing rather than the screw drive.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 My guess would be that the new lens will have in-lens electronic
 aperture control, rather than a mechanical actuator.  The body will
 presumably still work with (at least some of) the current lenses.


 As for the other points raised: the reason I'm not going is because
 the idea of a week of 12-hour days spent watching figure skating is
 just not one that interests me, not because my camera is the wrong
 size. And I know from previous experience from photographing events
 in a large arena that I would want the 60-250; that's not 6 long.
 While I could get the K-5, the 1.7xAF adapter and my old 135/f2.8
 into the venue, there would be no way to get the 60-250 in. All
 bags and pockets are likely to be searched.  I suppose I could
 have borrowed back the A* 200 I sold to Larry, had I been going;
 that's under the 6 limit, and a very nice piece of glass to boot.

 But there's no way my wife would want to carry that kit around all
 day. And in any case the E-PL1 is a pretty nice camera; I'm sure it
 will be more than up to the task of getting some souvenir images.


 On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:11:30AM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 Larry, this is what makes me wonder about the flange distance.  The
 new 40 could be a modified design, and the old DA might require an
 adapter.  Nothing definitive here, but this kind of speculation is why
 we all so enjoy rumors.

 On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From
 Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote:
  Also, why a new 40/2.8 when the da40 is so awesome unless it's a new mount?
 
  Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello John, surely you have lenses (6) inches or smaller, being a
 seasoned Pentaxian. Why can't you go in to this event with the K-5
 Body and lens(es) in separate bags. I have done this many times - body
 in my coat pocket and lens(es) in a carry on bag. Surely the K-5 is a
 mighty midget compared to many other cameras. Give it a try old chap.
 Regards. Bipin.
 
 As for the Pentax EVIL rumour, why would one buy a K-5 like speced
 camera when the K-5 is pretty small itself. See no fun in using an
 electronic viewfinder, if it has one. Lenses and compatibility w/o an
 AF adapter still remains a big mystery, even though the rumour says
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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
Black with yellow leather?  The Bumblebee model?  I'm in!  ;-)

It looks like they leaned toward functionality.  Now the problem might
be the other side, i.e., if it's too big not to just buy the DSLR.

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 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Supposedly K mount and a K-5 quality sensor:

 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/hot-pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-coming-soon/

 More...

 http://m.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-revealed-in-february--1056080

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
It makes some sense if the new EVIL body is a smaller, lighter body
with K5 innards and this is accompanied by the release of a new DSLR.
The new line has a lower end model which is mirrorless and the
higher spec model which is a DSLR.  Effectively, this new mirrorless
model is replacing the K-r and the something else is replacing the K5.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Tom C wrote:

 Assuming I had a K-5, what would induce me to buy a mirrorless system
 that is essentially in all other respects, a K-5?

 The K5 being discontinued?

 If no DSLR upgrade were introduced, that would induce me to sell my gear and 
 go to Nikon.

 That likely goes for me too, but consider this. We've been complaining
 that Pentax *used* to be a market leader, constantly coming out with
 new innovations that the rest of the market later copied, but hasn't
 done that for a very long time.

 Is it possible that Pentax has finally made (or is about to reveal) a
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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
No one seems to know if it has a built in EVF, aside from the LCD.
From what I've seem with other companies, not mentioning the EVF means
that it's not built in and is only an add-on if it exists at all.
OTOH, who knows the nature of this rumor?  I always wonder if the
company floats these rumors to gauge reaction and then tweaks the
final designs.

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 From: Bong Manayon

 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Supposedly K mount and a K-5 quality sensor:


 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/hot-pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-coming-soon/

 More...


 http://m.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-revealed-in-february--1056080



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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I find Bruce's comment bothersome.  (Sorry Bruce.)  Pentax would never
abandon the SLR format completely, but I'm not so sure about Ricoh.  I
hope they would at least run both for a while before completely
converting to mirrorless.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 20/1/12, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

I never thought I'd say this but I agree with John Sessoms.

 Mark.

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm hoping for this. I'd really like to see Pentax try a plastic
version of what Fuji just released (the X Pro 1) with a built in EVF.
I think Fuji is going after the M9, but I don't' think Pentax has the
mojo for that.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 It makes some sense if the new EVIL body is a smaller, lighter body
 with K5 innards and this is accompanied by the release of a new DSLR.
 The new line has a lower end model which is mirrorless and the
 higher spec model which is a DSLR.  Effectively, this new mirrorless
 model is replacing the K-r and the something else is replacing the K5.

 I'd be very happy with that.
 Paul


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 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

 On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Tom C wrote:

 Assuming I had a K-5, what would induce me to buy a mirrorless system
 that is essentially in all other respects, a K-5?

 The K5 being discontinued?

 If no DSLR upgrade were introduced, that would induce me to sell my gear 
 and go to Nikon.

 That likely goes for me too, but consider this. We've been complaining
 that Pentax *used* to be a market leader, constantly coming out with
 new innovations that the rest of the market later copied, but hasn't
 done that for a very long time.

 Is it possible that Pentax has finally made (or is about to reveal) a
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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
Let's hope for this one:

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/i-hope-marc-newson-can-make-a-better-pentax-k-design-than-that-one/

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 I guess I agree with Paul, but I have to say it would break my heart to see 
 the K5 to go away with no upgrade to follow.  I'd probably use my Pentax gear 
 until I couldn't any more, then switch.   Cheers, Christine



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 On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Tom C wrote:

 Assuming I had a K-5, what would induce me to buy a mirrorless system
 that is essentially in all other respects, a K-5?

 The K5 being discontinued?

 If no DSLR upgrade were introduced, that would induce me to sell my gear and 
 go to Nikon.

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
You have to do better than that, Christine.  To which depressing thing
are you referring?  ;-)

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Well that's depressing.



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 Let's hope for this one:

 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/i-hope-marc-newson-can-make-a-better-pentax-k-design-than-that-one/

 On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 I guess I agree with Paul, but I have to say it would break my heart to see 
 the K5 to go away with no upgrade to follow.  I'd probably use my Pentax 
 gear until I couldn't any more, then switch.   Cheers, Christine



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 On Jan 20, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Tom C wrote:

 Assuming I had a K-5, what would induce me to buy a mirrorless system
 that is essentially in all other respects, a K-5?

 The K5 being discontinued?

 If no DSLR upgrade were introduced, that would induce me to sell my gear 
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Re: OT: Canon DSLR vs Rolleicord

2012-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Philistine.


 Arguing whether film is better than digital is like arguing whether a
pair of vicegrips is better than a wrench.

 No argument, I'll take the wench...

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New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Supposedly K mount and a K-5 quality sensor:

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/hot-pentax-k-01-mirrorless-camera-coming-soon/

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Re: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

2012-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
Good news.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 On 1/19/2012 10:16, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just checked and the current Labour government took power in 2007. The
 liberals ruled for eleven uninterrupted years before that. It seems that
 this poor person's woes can be blamed on more than just the current Labour
  government.

 For all the examples of failures of socialized medicine I can point out
 more failures of a so-called free market system, but what's the use?

 The issue that Bob raised is whether seniors (so many of whom are on small
 fixed incomes) should pay for prescription medication. And I agree with Bob
 that they shouldn't have to.

 There. Not arguing with anyone about it because no one will change my mind
 about it.

 Btw, Ann, glad things went as well as they did. Sounds like things are
 treatable and that's gold.

 Cheers,
 frank


 YEs I'm greatly relieved.  Was jsut startled at first lat week as I had no
 clue I had anything amiss at all - except for a bit of cataract blur and
 sensitivity to glare.

 ann



 --- Original Message ---

 From: John Coylejco...@iinet.net.au
 Sent: January 19, 2012 1/19/12
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

 And here in Queensland one pensioner has waited 15 years for cataract
 surgery, and has now
 been told he is off the waiting list because his case is considered
 non-urgent.  It took
 him 9 years to even get on the list - now he has to find $4000 for private
 treatment -
 this from our caring  Labor government...


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bob W
 Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 5:06 PM
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
 Of Ann Sanfedele


 But --
 the diagnoses overall is that I really don't need a new prescription -
 cataract surgery probably a year or more down the road, peripheral
 vision not too bad.  The glaucoma is Open Angle.  Have to take drops
 two times a day... Trusopt 5ml.

 Dan - is that what you take?

 Looks like it will cost $45 a month if I get it at K-mart If anyone
 knows what Costco would charge it might be worth my joining


 that sums up in one sentence why Europe is better than the USA. Over here
 someone at your
 time of life would not pay anything - I was quite shocked to read that
 sentence.

 Still, I'm glad to hear that things aren't too bad for you.

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Re: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

2012-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
My physician charges $10 for a copy of my records, according to a sign
in the office.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:22 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Sorry Frank - states are responsible for running the health system in 
 Australia, and we in
 Queensland have had a Labor government for two decades - they would rather 
 spend
 $450,000,000+ on a failed payroll system (yes, 450 million) than put it where 
 it really
 counts.

 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia




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 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 1:16 AM
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 Subject: RE: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

 I just checked and the current Labour government took power in 2007. The 
 liberals ruled
 for eleven uninterrupted years before that. It seems that this poor person's 
 woes can be
 blamed on more than just the current Labour  government.

 For all the examples of failures of socialized medicine I can point out more 
 failures of a
 so-called free market system, but what's the use?

 The issue that Bob raised is whether seniors (so many of whom are on small 
 fixed incomes)
 should pay for prescription medication. And I agree with Bob that they 
 shouldn't have to.

 There. Not arguing with anyone about it because no one will change my mind 
 about it.

 Btw, Ann, glad things went as well as they did. Sounds like things are 
 treatable and
 that's gold.

 Cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au
 Sent: January 19, 2012 1/19/12
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

 And here in Queensland one pensioner has waited 15 years for cataract 
 surgery, and has now
 been told he is off the waiting list because his case is considered 
 non-urgent.  It took
 him 9 years to even get on the list - now he has to find $4000 for private 
 treatment -
 this from our caring  Labor government...


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W
 Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 5:06 PM
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
 Subject: RE: OT - kinda - back from the exam.. blurry but unbowed

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
 Of Ann Sanfedele

 But --
 the diagnoses overall is that I really don't need a new prescription -
 cataract surgery probably a year or more down the road, peripheral
 vision not too bad.  The glaucoma is Open Angle.  Have to take drops
 two times a day... Trusopt 5ml.

 Dan - is that what you take?

 Looks like it will cost $45 a month if I get it at K-mart If anyone
 knows what Costco would charge it might be worth my joining


 that sums up in one sentence why Europe is better than the USA. Over here 
 someone at your
 time of life would not pay anything - I was quite shocked to read that 
 sentence.

 Still, I'm glad to hear that things aren't too bad for you.

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Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs

2012-01-19 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's also fairly heavy at 19.5 oz.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 On 1/19/2012 1:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Wasn't this sort of idea soundly debunked here because the body would
 have to be too thick to be worthwhile? Flange distance?

 Will the bumblebee fly after all?

 That website puts the K-01's dimensions at 59 mm deep. That's 14mm less than
 a K-5.  The Sony Nex - 7 is 43mm.  The ME Super was 49.5 mm.

 For me, all of the mirrorless systems are still too big for the times when I
 need a small camera to slip into my pocket. And when I don't need a small
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Re: OT: Canon DSLR vs Rolleicord

2012-01-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
These guys always insist on capture images. Both media always
involve some PP, minimally the JPEG engine or photolab's chemical
development.   For absolute quality comparison you should allow both
files to be optimized in LR.   The problem with all of these
comparisons is that they are typically being done by someone defending
the honor of film and inevitably bias the test in small ways toward
film's advantages.  For example,  I have little doubt that film has a
DR advantage over digital, although he made a point of using print and
not slide film. At least he didn't use Tri-X.  ;-)

The real advantage of digital for me is that i can take so many
pictures of the same scene, chanage settings, and just



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 On 1/16/2012 11:05 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Purchased my first Rolleicord this morning, a model V (mainly because
 I thought it was too cheap).
 Whilst Googling around I came across this interesting video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lWLEtC8wY
 Some of the comments are a fun read, also.


 That's the second film vs digital comparison I've run across in the past
 couple of days:
 http://www.twinlenslife.com/2009/05/digital-vs-film-real-deal-nikon-d300-vs.html

 Which points to this one from last year.
 http://www.twinlenslife.com/2011/01/digital-vs-film-canon-5d-mark-ii-vs.html


 The funny thing is that for me, I've been getting far better image quality
 with my DSLRs than I have ever gotten with film.



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Re: OT: Canon DSLR vs Rolleicord

2012-01-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL.  I'd just like to finish it.  Damn students interrupting me with
career issues.

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The real advantage of digital for me is that i can take so many
pictures of the same scene, chanage settings, and just


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Re: OT: Canon DSLR vs Rolleicord

2012-01-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
You know, G, I think Stupid, G qualifies as a Mark!.

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 Stupid.

 G

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 I thought it was too cheap).
 Whilst Googling around I came across this interesting video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lWLEtC8wY
 Some of the comments are a fun read, also.

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Re: OT: Photography for Kids?

2012-01-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
I would think the most important technical issues would be
composition, holding the camera still, and lighting (as opposed to
exposure).  Scavenger hunts are great ways to get them to practice.

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 From: Christine Aguila


 About length:  If you do 90 minutes, maybe organize the time by 1)
 field work/class activity, 2) processing, 3) then group feedback on a
 shot or two taken by each student.  Really depends how big your
 classes are going to be.   I'd recommend keeping them small.
 Totally agree with Stan about letting them self-nominate categories.
 Cheers, Christine


 For class size, I'd recommend keeping them small - no more than 5 kids in
 the preteen classes  10 max from there on up. That gives you more time for
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Re: OT: Photography for Kids?

2012-01-16 Thread Steven Desjardins
One more thing:  in terms of class time, have them take some pictures
early. Introduce the ideas about composition, etc., while taking the
pictures.  Many newbies are amazed at basic applications of the rule
of thirds.

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 I would think the most important technical issues would be
 composition, holding the camera still, and lighting (as opposed to
 exposure).  Scavenger hunts are great ways to get them to practice.

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 From: Christine Aguila


 About length:  If you do 90 minutes, maybe organize the time by 1)
 field work/class activity, 2) processing, 3) then group feedback on a
 shot or two taken by each student.  Really depends how big your
 classes are going to be.   I'd recommend keeping them small.
 Totally agree with Stan about letting them self-nominate categories.
 Cheers, Christine


 For class size, I'd recommend keeping them small - no more than 5 kids in
 the preteen classes  10 max from there on up. That gives you more time for
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Re: PESO: Red-shouldered Hawk (re-released)

2012-01-15 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow.  Rarely do you actually get them in the right position.  Awesome
shot.  Maybe your camera was overwhelmed by the awesomeness of your
image making.

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 Fortunate timimg and lucky grab.
 Thanks, Christine!

 Jack


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 Thanks,

 Jack

 After thought: Taken just prior to glitch.

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=622


 Wow!  Great detail!   Cheers, Christine

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Re: PESO - Arrivederci Venezia e Padova!

2012-01-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Very nice.  Composition and lighting are near perfect.  I say that
because I'm not sure what perfect looks like.

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 From San Marco in Venice:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14826607size=lg


 (K-7, DA 50-200, ISO 1100)

 Perhaps a bit trite, but I couldn't resist.


 Chim Seymour, one of the founders of Magnum, said when he was in Venice that
 he found it almost impossible to resist the temptation to photograph
 gondolas, so you're in good company.

 Views and comments have been dropping off, so either (1) my Venice
 photos are so spectacular that people are struck dumb with awe, or (2)
 the photos are so bad that any comment seems futile, or (3) enough of
 Venice and Padua already!


 I've enjoyed looking at them, Signor Canaletto, but I can't help wondering
 why the East End of London, which has far more miles of canals than Venice,
 has fewer tourists.

 Anyway, here's an interesting update on a piece of well known Veneziana:
 http://benchley.blogspot.com/2011/05/17th-century-venetian-scoops-benchley.
 html

 B

 Hazarding a guess that it's #3, I'll post again when I have other
 material.

 Altogether, I've posted about 20 pix from the trip.  Should anyone wish
 to view all 68 photos up on photo.net (culled from 760 exposures), they
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Re: Cotty at work

2012-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I suppose in your job you do live for the moment.

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 Boy, he'd never last as an academic.

 Indeed. He is entirely too vertical.

He gets that complaint a lot.

 There's a saying in TV:  'Hurry up and wait'

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Re: PESO: Maui Girl

2012-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just a good photograph.  Composition, tones, etc. in a pleasing combination.

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 Very nicely shot and rendered. It helps me appreciate the natural beauty of 
 hawaii.
 I'd like to see her more prominantly, could you crop down a bit tighter, 
 maybe just into one of the corners?

 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:m

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14955235

Just hangin' loose, local style, at Iao Stream.

Comments are appreciated.
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Re: OT - kinda

2012-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I thought you were just being modest.  ;-)

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 On 1/13/2012 12:00, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 It isn't going to curtail my photography, it just as good
 as it might be if I had healthy eyes.


 Oh god what a TYPO!! LOL

 make that
 It isn't going to curtail my photography, it just ISN't as good

 as it might be if I had healthy eyes.

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Re: PESO: UNparallel Parking

2012-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
The basic hatch  runs about $12-13K.  That's cheap for a car, and
starting to be typical for a motorcycle.

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 On Jan 12, 2012, at 19:28, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fun shot!

 There was an ad showing on Canadian tv when Smart Cars first came out 
 showing one parked like that, but it was pulled when it was realized that 
 it's illegal to park that way here. I guess that pulling into traffic from 
 that position could be a tad, er, unwieldy.


 I would think that it would be even safer (this is nose out, not nose to 
 the curb, right?). If you can see both left and right before pulling out, 
 you're even better off than trying to peek into the mirror before making a 
 move.  Seems to me, anyways.

 As a regular bike and motorcycle commuter, the size (and/or crash-worthiness) 
 of these vehicles doesn't put me off.

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Re: PESO: UNparallel Parking

2012-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I agree about the mileage.  I thought it would be much better than that.

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 Oh...

 cheers,
 frank

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 They don't get much better mileage than my 1993 Saturn SC2 got either,
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Re: PESO: UNparallel Parking

2012-01-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
I assume they'd be cheaper used, but apparently not much depreciation yet.

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 On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:50, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 The basic hatch  runs about $12-13K.  That's cheap for a car, and
 starting to be typical for a motorcycle.


 I guess I just never buy new vehicles.

 I got my model 1989 motorcycle in 1993 for just about $3K and I'm still 
 riding it.

 I got my last Subaru for about $3K about 6 years ago... it's got over 260,000 
 miles on it and still going strong.

 I couldn't stomach paying over $10K for a car. ANY car.  I know many do, but 
 it's not for me.  I'm a cheap son of a gun!

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Re: Cotty at work

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Boy, he'd never last as an academic.

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Re: OT: Beauty Secrets Revealed

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
So, what part of that wasn't true?  I love the way they pronounce Adobe.

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Polaroid Camera looks like a phone

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Further down the page on PetaPixel:

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/01/11/polaroid-unveils-new-android-powered-camera-that-looks-like-a-phone/

Put in phone capabilities and I'd consider it.

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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
If you look at the K5/X Pro 1 size comparison from the non-grip side,
the body has a similar thickness.  The grip and prism bump make up the
size difference and probably part of the weight.  It's pretty clear
that Fuji is going after the M9 in that they want those who can't
afford to the M9 to think of this as a good alternative.  I think
you've zoned in on the biggest problem, however, Frank, which is the
slower AF.  I've had some luck with the X-10 on moving targets
(people) but my personal skill for street work is not sufficient to
make a real evaluation.

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 I think those photos may be misleading. I bet the k5 is much deeper 
 fore-to-aft than the Fuji. I'm guessing that the grip and the pentaprism bump 
 make the real-world size of the dslr considerably larger.

 The main misgiving I have with the Fuji is the slow autofocus. Apparently 
 it's better than the x100 but nowhere near dslr capability. Fuji acknowledges 
 that but says fast focusing is not what that camera is about.

 Perhaps not, but that might affect its ability to be a good street shooter. 
 Apparently the manual focus is just as frustrating (at least on the x100; 
 don't know about the x1 pro yet).

 cheers,
 frank

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 Sent: January 12, 2012

 I agree. I was a little excited about the X Pro 1, until I discovered that it 
 is almost the same size as K-5.

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Peso: Hillbilly Porn

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
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Re: Peso: Me and My Shadow

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Actually he did.  I was following him around with the camera to the
amusement of several bystanders.  I think he was hoping in seagull
fashion (mine, mine) that I was going to give him food.

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 Does that bird know he's being followed? Very clever photo.




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Re: PESO: October Snow

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
I like this.  Normally these falling snow shots have a largely dead
background.  The snow rendered here in a pleasing fashion against a
deeply colored background.

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 Thanks for looking, Rick, and for your kind comments.

 I tried several different shutter speeds to try to depict the falling
 snow.  Faster speeds stopped the action, but showed how large the snow
 flakes were.   Slower speeds blurred the flakes too much, until they
 began to resemble fog.  1/20 th of a second seemed to best show both
 the size of the flakes and the speed at which they were falling.

 The contrast between the snow and the red dogwood leaves are what
 caused me to grab the camera and head outdoors in the first place.
 The greenery in the background I think helps to illustrate that this
 is an early and unexpected snowfall.

 Fan

 Dan Matyola
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 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I really like this shot, Dan.  The shutter speed is just right, and the 
 colorful tree surrounded by green makes an excellent background.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
Interesting reference in that I've never actually compared the flange
distance numbers before.  Those mirrorless mounts are so much shorter.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_mount

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 David Parsons wrote:

 Because M43 has the same registration distance as the K mount.  You'd
 need an optical adapter to use M43 lenses properly.

 No. M4/3 is 19.25, K is 45.46.
 However, lens coverage for m4/3 (Oly+Pana) is much smaller than APS
 (Fuji+Pentax+many more).

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Re: Peso: Hillbilly Porn

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
But Ann, I was posting this for Cotty.  ;-)

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Steady on, as Cotty would say

 ann

 On 1/12/2012 10:32, Steven Desjardins wrote:


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Re: OT - kinda

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
PM?

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Off to my eye exam.  details at 11

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Re: OT - kinda

2012-01-12 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's scary to hear this but I've known folks with  of these conditions
and they can do amazing things these days.  It needs attention but go
on as usual after that.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Ok details at 11 figuratively.

 Not such good news..
 glaucoma  - but at least it is controllable.
 cataracts as well - though small.

 I have to go back to get the diagnoses fine tuned by a specialist
 doc didnt want to stress me out today with the drops that dilate as I had no
 one with me to lead me home :-)

 My best friend is taking me there next wed.
 I have to say it was scary to hear, but being reassured by many that
 it is controllable and and be stopped in its tracks  just not reversable and
 nothing that it has caused so far can be corrected, if I understand it
 right.

 ann


 On 1/12/2012 11:56, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 PM?

 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com  wrote:

 Off to my eye exam.  details at 11

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Peso: Me and My Shadow

2012-01-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
Size comparison with K5

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/6676569317/

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's very useful to have and eye level finder for long lenses and MF.
 In the context of this thread, however, that VF doesn't need to be
 optical.  The X Pro can switch back and forth between the two, but I
 wonder how necessary that really is if the EVF is fairly high res.

 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:52:24AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:47 AM, John Francis wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 07:41:54AM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
  IMHO, the EVF is probably the best actual route to provide accurate
  framing and information in non-reflex cameras.  The optical one looks
  nicer, but it's not as useful a tool in terms of information provided.

 I have found that EVFs are extremely handy in low light.  I'm quite 
 interested in an APS rangefinder with low light performance at least as 
 good as the K-5, especially one with an adapter so I can use K-mount lenses.

  Of course, we're used to all these advantages together with the SLR
  so individual reactions may vary.  I don't feel the EVF limits my
  photography so the only question now for me is LCD screen versus
  eye-level.
 
  That very much depends on the camera.  But from my experience yesterday
  with the E-PL1 in bright California sunshine (checking out the 40-150
  lens that has mysteriously turned up in my wife's camera kit) I think
  the add-on eye-level finder will soon end up in the bag, too.

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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-11 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL. I should have just linked to the original site.  It really is the
same size ad the M9.

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 On 11/1/12, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

Size comparison with K5

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmflores/6676569317/

 Interesting.

 Brilliant website!

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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
 IMHO, the EVF is probably the best actual route to provide accurate
framing and information in non-reflex cameras.  The optical one looks
nicer, but it's not as useful a tool in terms of information provided.
 Of course, we're used to all these advantages together with the SLR
so individual reactions may vary.  I don't feel the EVF limits my
photography so the only question now for me is LCD screen versus
eye-level.

As for the X Pro, I'll need to see some output to see if it provides
any real advantage over smaller SLRs like the K5 (or it replacement).
Of course it will have the chic factor, so a chunk of enthusiast money
will go that way.  I'll be curious to see if any working pros use it
in place of the M9, which is the obvious analog.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:23 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I haven't read the rest of the thread yet, but based on the described
 implementation of the OVF and EVF, switching from one to the other with the
 camera at eye level  could be ugly in operation depending on the focal
 length of the lens being used.  Maybe that's just a nit, but it's one among
 many. It seems to me that this camera trades one set of inconvineces, (those
 of SLR or rangefinder based viewing and focusing), for another different
 set.  :I'm not at all sure that all this has anything really going for it
 more than retro looks and novelty.



 On 1/8/2012 6:32 AM, Miserere wrote:

 I'm surprised none of you are talking about this camera:


 http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FujiFilmMirrorless_2.jpg

 There was interest on the list for the Fuji X100, and now Fuji are
 finally releasing an interchangeable lens version, called X Pro 1,
 with (initially) 3 primes:

  * 18mm f/2
  * 35mm f/1.4
  * 60mm f/2.4 macro

 Registration distance is said to be 17.7mm and the mount will
 accomodate Leica M lenses. It'll have a 16MP APS-C sensor with RGB
 filter [...] arranged in random blocks of 6x6 pixels which avoids the
 need for AA filter. I'll wait for the official release to see what
 this means exactly. As for price, in the EU it's rumoured to be 1,300
 Euros for the body + 35mm lens.

 I, for one, am excited about this camera, which to my mind is what the
 X100 should've been from the start.

 More info:


 http://photorumors.com/2012/01/07/detailed-fuji-x-pro-1-specs-you-must-read-this

 It's going to be announced tomorrow, Monday 9th.

 Cheers,


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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Fuji's EXR sensor could be a real advantage if they can perfect it.
The X-10's IQ is very good, especially given the little 2/3 sensor.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 I wrote:

 Conceived and built as it is, the X Pro 1 is not far from being just a
 different way to make a K-5.


 However, I'm interested in the X Pro 1 sensor concept and the advantages it
 can deliver once put in a smaller camera body.


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Re: Some pics with Pentax Q

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
This will frustrate some, but the price tag is a real hurdle for the
Q.  A less well built one, i.e., polycarbonate, might bring it into a
range where it can compete with the the other high end compacts like
the Canon G12.  Of course, they could simply stick that zoom on it
permanently and sell that version.  I'd hate to see it just go away.
OTOH, the Optio I -10 was something like this, and that didn't sell
for $300.   At $125 clearance prices I think it was one of the best
PS cameras Pentax ever made.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:36 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Based on  your comments it would seem that Pentax took everyone at their
 word when they said that they wanted a
 digital Pentax 110 system, (a really small body, and and 5 or 6 lenses
 including a wide angle, a telephoto, a normal, and a telephoto).  Except for
 the fact that the wide in this case is a fisheye, and the 110 had a moderate
 wide angle, the Q systems pretty much replicates the 110 system as it was
 originally released.  I expect that if the Q is successful enough Pentax
 planned to release a higher quality wide and telephoto, but I doubt that it
 will be successful enough based on the /buzz/ it's getting.


 On 1/8/2012 7:53 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 My camera pusher lent me a Pentax Q for a couple of days.
 Some resulting textual and pictural gabble can be found here:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/01/q-inspection.html

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Peso: Run!

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
A fun shot from the Indiana Jones stunt show at Disney:

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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just to mention, I have the detachable VF-2 to go with my E-P2.  It's
essential in bright light.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 07:41:54AM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
  IMHO, the EVF is probably the best actual route to provide accurate
 framing and information in non-reflex cameras.  The optical one looks
 nicer, but it's not as useful a tool in terms of information provided.
  Of course, we're used to all these advantages together with the SLR
 so individual reactions may vary.  I don't feel the EVF limits my
 photography so the only question now for me is LCD screen versus
 eye-level.

 That very much depends on the camera.  But from my experience yesterday
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 lens that has mysteriously turned up in my wife's camera kit) I think
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Re: Peso: Run!

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
I know.  Next time I'll pack some flares.  ;-)

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 From: Steven Desjardins

 A fun shot from the Indiana Jones stunt show at Disney:


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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's very useful to have and eye level finder for long lenses and MF.
In the context of this thread, however, that VF doesn't need to be
optical.  The X Pro can switch back and forth between the two, but I
wonder how necessary that really is if the EVF is fairly high res.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:28 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:52:24AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:

 On Jan 10, 2012, at 9:47 AM, John Francis wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 07:41:54AM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
  IMHO, the EVF is probably the best actual route to provide accurate
  framing and information in non-reflex cameras.  The optical one looks
  nicer, but it's not as useful a tool in terms of information provided.

 I have found that EVFs are extremely handy in low light.  I'm quite 
 interested in an APS rangefinder with low light performance at least as 
 good as the K-5, especially one with an adapter so I can use K-mount lenses.

  Of course, we're used to all these advantages together with the SLR
  so individual reactions may vary.  I don't feel the EVF limits my
  photography so the only question now for me is LCD screen versus
  eye-level.
 
  That very much depends on the camera.  But from my experience yesterday
  with the E-PL1 in bright California sunshine (checking out the 40-150
  lens that has mysteriously turned up in my wife's camera kit) I think
  the add-on eye-level finder will soon end up in the bag, too.

 Wow! that WAF is one sneaky girl.

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Re: PESO: Cat photo alert! Flee! Flee!

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice shot and a great name.

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 From: Matthew Hunt


 Do you enjoy canned tuna and belly-rubs?


 Not as often as I'd like to.


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Re: PESO: UNparallel Parking

2012-01-10 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL.  Epic parking.

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 On Jan 10, 2012, at 12:40, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14961453



 I giggle every time I see those cars.  :-)

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Canon makes a high end compact

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
It has  a sensor slightly larger than 4/3:

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canong1x/

Probably sell like hotcakes.

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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
More specs:

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/in-deep-look-fuji-x-pro-1-specs/

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The x10 and this new one are very different beasts. It's nice to have a
 compact for certain trips.

 Steve Desjardins

 On Jan 8, 2012 7:59 PM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Of course they had to wait until I decided to buy the X10 before they
 made the announcement!

 Sounds like the camera I wanted the X100 to be (which I also owned and
 sold and replaced with the X10)

 Wendy

 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm surprised none of you are talking about this camera:
 
 
  http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FujiFilmMirrorless_2.jpg
 
  There was interest on the list for the Fuji X100, and now Fuji are
  finally releasing an interchangeable lens version, called X Pro 1,
  with (initially) 3 primes:
 
   * 18mm f/2
   * 35mm f/1.4
   * 60mm f/2.4 macro
 
  Registration distance is said to be 17.7mm and the mount will
  accomodate Leica M lenses. It'll have a 16MP APS-C sensor with RGB
  filter [...] arranged in random blocks of 6x6 pixels which avoids the
  need for AA filter. I'll wait for the official release to see what
  this means exactly. As for price, in the EU it's rumoured to be 1,300
  Euros for the body + 35mm lens.
 
  I, for one, am excited about this camera, which to my mind is what the
  X100 should've been from the start.
 
  More info:
 
 
  http://photorumors.com/2012/01/07/detailed-fuji-x-pro-1-specs-you-must-read-this
 
  It's going to be announced tomorrow, Monday 9th.
 
  Cheers,
 
 
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Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)

2012-01-09 Thread Steven Desjardins
Hit send too quickly.  ;-)  It's big for this kind of camera, not that
much smaller than a K5.  The output would have to be really good for
this body to be a consideration.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 More specs:

 http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/in-deep-look-fuji-x-pro-1-specs/

 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The x10 and this new one are very different beasts. It's nice to have a
 compact for certain trips.

 Steve Desjardins

 On Jan 8, 2012 7:59 PM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Of course they had to wait until I decided to buy the X10 before they
 made the announcement!

 Sounds like the camera I wanted the X100 to be (which I also owned and
 sold and replaced with the X10)

 Wendy

 On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm surprised none of you are talking about this camera:
 
 
  http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/FujiFilmMirrorless_2.jpg
 
  There was interest on the list for the Fuji X100, and now Fuji are
  finally releasing an interchangeable lens version, called X Pro 1,
  with (initially) 3 primes:
 
   * 18mm f/2
   * 35mm f/1.4
   * 60mm f/2.4 macro
 
  Registration distance is said to be 17.7mm and the mount will
  accomodate Leica M lenses. It'll have a 16MP APS-C sensor with RGB
  filter [...] arranged in random blocks of 6x6 pixels which avoids the
  need for AA filter. I'll wait for the official release to see what
  this means exactly. As for price, in the EU it's rumoured to be 1,300
  Euros for the body + 35mm lens.
 
  I, for one, am excited about this camera, which to my mind is what the
  X100 should've been from the start.
 
  More info:
 
 
  http://photorumors.com/2012/01/07/detailed-fuji-x-pro-1-specs-you-must-read-this
 
  It's going to be announced tomorrow, Monday 9th.
 
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Peso: The cows told me about you

2012-01-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
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Re: OT: black box generated video of Hudson plane landing

2012-01-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
LOL.  I wasn't promoting it as a recreational activity.  I was just
point out there was some option for a helicopter aside from prayer and
loss of bowel control.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:41 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Cotty

 On 31/12/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

 A helicopter

 does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces
 and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any
 disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying;
 immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding
 helicopter.


 Sorry John, but you couldn't be more wrong. Given the choice between a
 single engined fixed wing plane and a helicopter - both with engine
 failure at 5000 feet - I would take the helicopter every time.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation_(helicopter)


 Ever actually been through an auto-rotation?

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Re: OT: black box generated video of Hudson plane landing

2011-12-31 Thread Steven Desjardins
Can't a helicopter autorotate down if the engine fails?

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 1:42 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Daniel J. Matyola


 I took a course in aeronautics.  I understand how fixed wing aircraft
 fly, but helicopters are still a mystery to me.



 The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's
 nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual
 events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter
 does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces
 and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any
 disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying;
 immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding
 helicopter.

 This is why being a helicopter pilot is so different from being an
 airplane pilot, and why in generality, airplane pilots are open,
 clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding
 introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has
 not happened it is about to.

 — Harry Reasoner, 1971.

 Helicopters don't flythey beat the air into submission

 - Anon


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Vivian Maier Book

2011-12-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't know if this has been posted, but it's a pretty good price for
a photo book:

http://www.amazon.com/Vivian-Maier-Street-Photographer/dp/1576875776/ref=bhp_Catpicks_Art5?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=center-9pf_rd_r=11P2H1BWM09E2DH1GQDMpf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=1337199202pf_rd_i=283155
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Re: Tarts

2011-12-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
The photo is fine.  I think you need a bit more DoF if you want the
back row sharp, but the front row looks fine.  As for the tarts, I'm
no one to judge but I think I would prefer the less fruit versions.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 28/12/11, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

My goal this year is to master the tart, and I've started my
apprenticeship tonight.  You can see my technique on the crust part
needs to be improved--smoother around the rim, but I'm pretty darn
excited about my first go-round here.  Lemon cream with fresh fruit--it
was yummy, but a bit disappointed the photo didn't come out sharper.
hmm.   Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/tart/content/IMGP9425_large.html

 Wow! I likes a good tart me :)

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Re: Pesos: A Mild Xmas Morning in Virginia

2011-12-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Thanks.  The morning light is lovely along the river since the trees
block the sun and you get lots of diffuse light.

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 This is great.  The angle you chose seems perfect to me; the spacing between 
 elements in the composition is great; it's one of those scenes where the 
 composition and subject make it easy for the viewer to imagine how the space 
 is used--to imagine beyond the view presented.  Love it.  Light is great too. 
  Cheers, Christine




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 Out my daughter's back window:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-8S2nSwQ/0/L/xmas-morning-L.jpg

 Ghosts of Toys Past:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-t2wnsn3/0/L/toys-past-L.jpg

 An outlet into the river:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-GhZnZQg/0/L/bubbles-L.jpg

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Re: OT: canvas wrap print

2011-12-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Very nice atmospheric shot.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 That looks really nice, godfrey!  cheers, Christine


 On Dec 25, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I ordered a 20x35 inch canvas wrap of this image as a gift for my partner a 
 few weeks back. He just unboxed it  ... Excellent quality job! I'd recommend 
 APC to anyone looking for a canvas printing service ... 
 http://artisticphotocanvas.com/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6276427721/lightbox/
 or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6276427721/lightbox/

 He's working out how to hang it now. :-)

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Re: OT - It was bound to happen

2011-12-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice shot though.  After suffering for your art comes healing for your art.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:49 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I went out on a photo walk with some mates this evening. We were
 just shooting random urban night street scenes when I decided to break
 out the steel wool under a bridge.

 Here's the photo one of the guys took:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/fit_to_live/6588147057/

 That big streak thats ricocheting of the pylon camera right landed on
 my arm  left a nasty burn.

 I was going to put a coat on for it, but it is a very hot summers
 evening  decided to risk it. Oops.

 So be warned: If you do attempt this (burning steel wool spinning), be
 sure to wear long sleeves, a hat  some kind of eye protection.

 Cheers,

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Re: Oh marvelous techies - why is this happening??

2011-12-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
This is a new way to post for me.  I used to copy the URL of the
website when the picture was on the screen in SmugMug.  Now I use the
share function in the Smugmug menu to get a URL for just the image.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 1:18 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2011-12-28 10:53 Ann Sanfedele wrote



 On 12/28/2011 12:30, steve harley wrote:

 on 2011-12-28 09:44 Ann Sanfedele wrote

 Beneath the images , only recently, that Steve and someone else posted,
 a string of code appears - this is one batch:

 (This has happened a couple of times -- anyone know why?
 Is it something in Firefox? or the posters settings? )

 ___

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-8S2nSwQ/0/L/xmas-morning-L.jpg


 is the above is the URL you are loading when you see the code?

 YES


 when you load that URL, you are not loading a website, you are just loading
 an image with no extras; something else, not SmugMug, is adding the code you
 see — probably something at your end; it doesn't show up for me in Firefox
 nor in Chrome, and it's not there when i make a raw HTTP request with wget;

 the code is a Flash cookie which can store information that can be read by
 other websites; that makes me slightly suspicious, but i don't know enough
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Re: Bad news for Frank

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Mark!

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:25 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 He doesn't worry me. In fact I'm probably the reason he needs two knarfs.

 ;-)

 I almost downloaded the Google+ app for my android, until I read the 
 permissions. I stopped at the one where I give the app permission to track my 
 phone calls, including who I call and for how long.

 Scary shit.

 Cheers,
 the real knarf

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 There’s a photographer on Google+ going by “Knarf knarf”:
 https://plus.google.com/102914831328024332710/about

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Re: Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Here's the new crop:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-bWjzGmD/0/L/kennedy-3a-L.jpg

BTW, Cotty, I didn't use the optical viewfinder.  I good working with
the LCD inside, especially when I'm dodging and weaving with a frisky
kitten.  Outside, however, it's a godsend.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll try that tomorrow.  The file is on my office computer.

 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 26/12/11, kwal...@peoplepc.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

Too bad the overall light isn't as nice as that on the LLH corner.

 Which is why it doesn't work for me. Just needs a gnat's off the right
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Re: Peso: Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a SmugMug link, so I wonder what's wrong.  I just use the share
option, which BTW also solved my problem with embedded images on
webpages.

It's my daughter's new kitten, about 9 months old.  Add to that her
newly returned African dog and it makes for some good photo ops.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 adorable!
 New acquisition? /er- adoption? looks young...

 when I link to it though, there is a whole bunch of code appearing after the
 photo... hmmm

 ann

 On 12/26/2011 10:51, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-tswzrC4/0/L/kennedy-3-L.jpg


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Re: Ashley Pomeroy opinion piece to end the year on dpreview.com

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a fun read.  Snarky, but universally so, even regarding her own
writing style.  Some great lines and some sad truths.  The last few
lines are the best, however.  Let's drop the word digital form all
photography references because it has long been the default case.

As for her thoughts on photography, they are painfully descriptive of
my own experience.  I went to micro43 for a while  because I so liked
the E-P1.   Unfortunately, Olympus doesn't make it's own sensors and
you need the best stuff to compete with APS-C.   I'm also tired of
RAW, or, more precisely, working with RAW.   I love to adjust a single
picture but I hate the mass work flow.  I'm always told that Lightroom
is great once you get used to it, but to me that's a also a good
description for a prosthetic limb.  I've given it up, and will now use
the latest version of Photoshop Elements until Adobe goes out of
business.

In truth, I've fallen into what I call the Disneyland paradox.  Most
of my best photo opportunities occur at the worst places/times to tote
around an SLR and a bunch of lenses. I would have loved the Q with a
built-in fast zoom but I'm hoping the X-10 fulfills that niche. Since
most of my photography now lives on the web and I never make prints,
it should be fine.  I'll keep the K7 and the FA135 for those times
when I can devote the trip to photography, like a trip to the
racetrack or a national park.

Rant over.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8864725448/2012-the-dust-blows-forward

 The article begins with:
 Disclaimer: I've deliberately avoided reading any of the other
 end-of-year, roll-on-next-year articles that tend to appear around
 this time. I don't have to; I can form my own opinions. You're lucky
 I'm here to help you. The following is entirely my own mind, folded
 out flat and laid onto the page.

 Skip down to the Ricoh part for some humorous observations (if nothing
 of real substance).

 That portion ends with the following:
 If the company still decides to keep the Ricoh name, and if it has
 any sense, it would use the Pentax name for a higher-spec, higher-end
 version of its Ricoh cameras, although curiously the company seems to
 believe that Ricoh itself is the prestige brand, which is nonsense.

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Re: PESO 2011 - Soft Light, Morning After - GDG

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Some folks just go nuts with Xmas decorations  ;-)

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:19 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice room/

 Dave

 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 It was quiet and peaceful this morning with soft light and fog outdoors. The 
 canvas wrap I had made for my partner was hung yesterday, the holiday lights 
 are up. What better time to make a photo of the living room for posterity?

 These show at 1024 pixels wide ...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6575714631/lightbox/
 or
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6575714631/

 here's a 2000 pixel wide rendering -
 http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6575714631_99a5ccd68d_o.jpg

 enjoy
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Re: Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
You're just pleased because you have the same camera.

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 On 27/12/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

Here's the new crop:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-bWjzGmD/0/L/kennedy-3a-L.jpg

BTW, Cotty, I didn't use the optical viewfinder.  I good working with
the LCD inside, especially when I'm dodging and weaving with a frisky
kitten.  Outside, however, it's a godsend.

 You know what? I like the old crop better.

 (running, diving..)

 Seriously good photo - sharp as a Walkden's wit.

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Re: PESO - The Glare

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a shot I can relate to.  Our local coffee shop is just to small
to get good random people shots.  Hey, Steve, is that a new camera?
C'mon over and let me tell about my last 35 years of photography
efforts . . .

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think you've got it, Dave. Definitely that bored and resigned look.

 I like it, Frank. The lighting reinforces the message: the spotlight
 is on her, and he, ignored, has faded into shadow.

 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quite nice. I think he has probably given up asking her to get off the
 phone and settled into a long stare

 Dave

 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:02 PM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Saw these two at a coffee shop yesterday (don't ask what I was doing
 in a coffee shop on Christmas day):

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/12/glare.html

 Thought of Godfrey's Communicating series as I was taking it.
 Certainly not your style, but take it as an hommage none the less,
 Godfrey.

 ;-)

 Hope you all enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: OT PESO - Ole!

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a striking shot (and woman, if I may say).
 G'day All,

 One more from last weekends shoot. y the stage I was getting bored
 with the standard poses  was trying to get the models to be a bit
 more dynamic:

 http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6549348951_634235e315_b.jpg

 Have at it.

 Cheers,

 Dave.


 Indeed! I was expecting a torero.

 Tom C.

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Re: PESO: Ariada

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Best reason to have family.  :-o

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Paul Stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Thanks Rick. in truth, the old guy was walking backwards, bent over and 
 holding his camera near the ground. It helps to use family members for such 
 photos. But I didn't have to set it up, they're accustomed to ignoring me. :-)
 Paul
 On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

 I like it.  Strange that the woman and girl aren't paying any attention to 
 the old guy lying flat on the sidewalk with his camera!

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Subject: PESO: Ariada

 I added a photo to my It Happens on Woodward Collection, which now 
 comprises 216 photos taken over a span of about nine years on Old Woodward 
 Avenue in downtown Birmingham, Michigan. The common thread is that all 
 photos were all taken on the same street and in some way are indicative of 
 the lives that touch it.  The subject matter varies from the coffee-shop 
 portraits of a few years ago to a variety of street scenes. This photo is a 
 wide angle shot taken just about a foot off the pavement. K-5, DA* 16-50 at 
 16 mm, f5.6, 1/250th, ISO 400:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14871113
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Re: Bad news for Frank

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Photographers have their Art so they don’t need friends. -T

Bravely spoken.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Photographers have their Art so they don’t need friends. -T

 On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:01 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 I certainly don't have any friends.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 People with those sorts of phone have friends?

 Scary shit.

 Cheers,
 the real knarf

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 There’s a photographer on Google+ going by “Knarf knarf”:
 https://plus.google.com/102914831328024332710/about
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Re: Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright

2011-12-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
Thank Heavens for that. I was really worried about Waller.  (snicker)

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I prefer the original crop over this but I would acept either one.


 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright


 Here's the new crop:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-bWjzGmD/0/L/kennedy-3a-L.jpg

 BTW, Cotty, I didn't use the optical viewfinder.  I good working with
 the LCD inside, especially when I'm dodging and weaving with a frisky
 kitten.  Outside, however, it's a godsend.

 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'll try that tomorrow. The file is on my office computer.

 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 On 26/12/11, kwal...@peoplepc.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Too bad the overall light isn't as nice as that on the LLH corner.


 Which is why it doesn't work for me. Just needs a gnat's off the right
 to balance :-P

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Peso: Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright

2011-12-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-tswzrC4/0/L/kennedy-3-L.jpg

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Pesos: A Mild Xmas Morning in Virginia

2011-12-26 Thread Steven Desjardins
Out my daughter's back window:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-8S2nSwQ/0/L/xmas-morning-L.jpg

Ghosts of Toys Past:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-t2wnsn3/0/L/toys-past-L.jpg

An outlet into the river:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-GhZnZQg/0/L/bubbles-L.jpg

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