Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-09 Thread Thibouille
I have been surprised by my 18-55.
Not that it is outstanding in any way but quite beter than I thought
it would be.

Now, the 16-45 is still expensive for me...
Not a  clue where to have for nice little price in Europe?

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DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread dick graham
How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?


DG



Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
I love the DA 16-45. It's as sharp as a decent prime and has a high quality 
feel. It's among my most used lenses. I have no experience with either of the 
other two lenses you mention.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
 over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?
 
 DG
 



Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I found the DA16-45 to be an excellent performer where the DA18-55  
seemed somewhat lacking in contrast wide open as well as a bit too  
slow. However, it's much larger/heavier than the DA18-55. Ultimately,  
I find I prefer the FA20-35 as my wide zoom.


I only have a little experience with the FA24-90; given the choice  
between it and the DA16-45, I think I'd find it more to my liking. I  
have the FA28-105/3.2-4.5, which is comparable in many way at lower  
cost ... but there have been times when I really missed the 24-90's  
wider field of view at the short end, and the 24-90 is considered a  
better performer wide-open at the longest focal lengths.


Godfrey

On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:34 AM, dick graham wrote:

How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing  
this over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?


DG





Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Gonz

Worth every penny.


dick graham wrote:
How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?


DG



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Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Dario Bonazza
I mainly bought the 16-45 (over the FAJ 18-35, since the DA 18-55mm was not 
yet available) for its 16mm end. Then I compared the DA 16-45 to the 18-55 
and I find the former to be better, especially at wider end. Their prices 
are so much apart that it's not easy to suggest you to go for the 16-45mm.


I find the FA 24-90 to be in the same quality class of the DA 16-45mm.

Maybe, if you plan to go for the DA 12-24 (or a comparable lens) sooner or 
later, the FA 24-90mm could be a truly clever choice.


The FA 24-90mm alone is not wide enough, I'm afraid. Sure it's not wide 
enough for me.


Dario

- Original Message - 
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: DA 16-45 lens


How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?


DG





Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread brooksdj
 I mainly bought the 16-45 (over the 
FAJ 18-35, 
since the DA 18-55mm was not 
 yet available) for its 16mm end. Then I compared the DA 16-45 to the 18-55 
 and I find the former to be better, especially at wider end. 
 Dario

I'm still a bit worried about my 16-45. One pic seems decently sharp, another 
not. Could
be me, could 
be my  sharpening methods, or the fall last year.
I think i'll send in the camera and lens for them to look at. I do want to use 
it for Snow
Golf again Feb 
25th, so i'll wait till then. istD and A28mm made a good combo last year.

Dave
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 5:34 PM
 Subject: DA 16-45 lens
 
 
  How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
  over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?
 
  DG
  
 






Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2006 8:50:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I love the DA 16-45. It's as sharp as a decent prime and has a high quality 
feel. It's among my most used lenses. I have no experience with either of the 
other two lenses you mention.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
 over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?
 
 DG
=
From the pictures others have shown on list, it's great.

I don't have a Pentax DSLR, but if I did, it would be the first lens I would 
buy.

Marnie aka Doe   I wish Canon had something equivalent (price-wise).



Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Joseph Tainter
Get the DA 16-45. You will never regret it. The image quality is 
superb. It is sharper at 16 mm. than the DA 14 prime.


Joe



Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Bruce Dayton
The DA 16-45 is a much better lens than the DA 18-55.  Aside from it's
better optical performance, it is a constant aperture is goes wider.
About like comparing a 24mm to a 28mm for normal film 35.  It is F4 at
45mm and the 18-55 is 5.6 at 55mm.  In this case, you get what you pay
for.

Not quite sure why you threw the 24-90 into this.  It is an entirely
different focal length range that has some cross over.  Either you
need to get to the wide side or the long side.  If wide is important,
then the DA 16-45, if long is more important then the 24-90.  You
don't need to compare them directly as they are not similar lenses or
uses.

HTH,

Bruce


Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 8:34:19 AM, you wrote:

dg How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this
dg over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?

dg DG



Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I disagree with you. I've had both ... the DA14 is a keeper for me,  
the DA16-45 was not.


  http:homepage.mac.com/godders/14mm-examples/

Godfrey

On Feb 8, 2006, at 5:51 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

Get the DA 16-45. You will never regret it. The image quality is  
superb. It is sharper at 16 mm. than the DA 14 prime.


Joe





Re: DA 16-45 lens

2006-02-08 Thread David Oswald

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I love the DA 16-45. It's as sharp as a decent prime and has a high quality 
feel. It's among my most used lenses. I have no experience with either of the 
other two lenses you mention.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How good is the DA 16-45 lens?  Is it worth the extra $ purchasing this 
over the 18-55 or would the FA 24-90 be a better choice?



You can count me as another vote for the 16-45.  I've owned mine for 
about 10 months now.  I cannot say it's my most used lens... that 
description changes based on what type of photography I'm doing.  It's 
by far my most used zoom though.  On vacation, the 16-45 is practically 
the only lens I use -- a streak only occasionally interrupted by a few 
shots with the 28-105 f/3.2-4.5.  My 80-320 usually stays home.  It also 
happens that the 16-45 my only true wide-angle lens as well; a task for 
which it is well suited.  You know how with some lenses you take a shot 
and think, I wish I had taken that with a better lens.?  Well, I never 
feel that way with the 16-45.  I never wish I had taken the shot with a 
prime, for example.  I guess I can sum it up by saying that it's a lens 
I can feel confident about, knowing it's giving me great quality images, 
nothing less.


Now when I'm just walking around taking pictures; kind of focusing more 
on photography as an art, I find that I prefer shooting with a prime. 
But that's not because my primes capture better images.  No, it's 
because I feel that picking a single focal length and sticking with it 
all day (as much as possible) encourages me to pay more attention to 
composition, and I tend to get more interesting pictures when I stick 
with a single focal length for awhile.  Personal preference, I suppose.


As for the other lenses you mentioned, the FA24-90 is also a great lens. 
 If you don't have another wider-angle lens, may not be as wide as you 
find yourself wanting.  I would consider it a good companion to the 
12-24 lens, or the 14mm prime.  But in a kit like mine where I don't 
have another true wide, the 16-45 makes more sense.


The 18-55 is ok for what it's supposed to be; an inexpensive 
introductory lens.  Many people will buy an *ist-DS with the kit lens, 
and never acquire anything else.  That's fine.  It's better than the 
lenses found on point and shoot cameras, that's for sure.  But if you're 
into this hobby, you'll outgrow it fast.


Dave