Re: Epson 2400 BW help
Have you tried using soft proofing in PS? Open a photo that you have already printed. Then go to ViewProof Setup then select Custom... and in the Device to Simulate drop down list select the appropriate printer/paper profile, then click OK. You can turn the soft proofing on off by pressing Ctrl+Y (or cmd+Y on the Mac). If everything is going well you shouldn't see much of a change on screen. But If you do you can adjust the image to suit with soft proof on. I use the soft proof technique to good effect. Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i see nothing out of the ordinary from what i have. The monitor is calibrated, colour prints come out exactly like the monitor, BW is darker than monitor, and from what i see, Dave's settings are the same as mine. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
No i have not Dave. I'll try. I calibrated the monitor Tuesday, again, and did some colour prints today. The colours on the horse and jumps are fine, but nowi see the blue sky has some greyish to it and my sand is darker than the monitor. I assign rgb colour space when printing. Maybe its just a cleaning to fix up this snag, as the prints i made two weeks ago were spot on. I wonder if is should print in sRGB Dave On 7/11/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried using soft proofing in PS? Open a photo that you have already printed. Then go to ViewProof Setup then select Custom... and in the Device to Simulate drop down list select the appropriate printer/paper profile, then click OK. You can turn the soft proofing on off by pressing Ctrl+Y (or cmd+Y on the Mac). If everything is going well you shouldn't see much of a change on screen. But If you do you can adjust the image to suit with soft proof on. I use the soft proof technique to good effect. Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i see nothing out of the ordinary from what i have. The monitor is calibrated, colour prints come out exactly like the monitor, BW is darker than monitor, and from what i see, Dave's settings are the same as mine. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Epson 2400 BW help
Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
I'd love to help Dave, but my PC is still down for repairs. Basically I don't do anything different when printing BW, than I do when printing colour (ie select the paper profile in the print setup window, let PS determine colours, colour management off in the print driver) No doubt someone will be able to help soon. Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
I have the driver on the mac now, but i use the pc mostly. Anything will help. I'm still getting darker than monitor prints, and the colour is spot on to the calibration using the Spyder i picked up from Mark a while back. Coulor i'm very pleased with. Dave On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac or PC? I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right now. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
Mac or PC? I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right now. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use (PC): PS print dialogue: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg Print driver dialogue http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
Like Dave Savage, I print in BW exactly the same way that I print in color. I'm using PSCS. I set the ICC profile to the paper type in Print With Preview and make sure the color space that I'm printing in agrees with that of the file. In the print box I select the paper type, then check to make sure my print settings are Advanced with hi-speed off and usually Best or RIM? quality. I then go to Color Management and make sure it's turned off. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the driver on the mac now, but i use the pc mostly. Anything will help. I'm still getting darker than monitor prints, and the colour is spot on to the calibration using the Spyder i picked up from Mark a while back. Coulor i'm very pleased with. Dave On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac or PC? I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right now. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
David J Brooks wrote: I have the driver on the mac now, but i use the pc mostly. Anything will help. I'm still getting darker than monitor prints, and the colour is spot on to the calibration using the Spyder i picked up from Mark a while back. Coulor i'm very pleased with. Dave This sounds pretty simplistic but while your image is in photoshop try just sliding the brightening lever over a bit when ever you print bw - so that the image on the monitor is lighter than you want... I have the 220 with the PC - Even when I covert to black and white I keep the profile RGB and adjust the color to have a slightly blue cast on the monitor to get it to print to a cool bw. I have no idea why this works ann On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac or PC? I'm very happy with my Mac/R1400 BW output. Unfortunately, I'm at work right now. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
Normally I do, unless it's just a quick print of a snapshot. I never use RPM though. In my opinion it doesn't improve the image quality enough to justify the extra ink it uses. I've updated the screenshot. Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use (PC): PS print dialogue: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg Print driver dialogue http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use (PC): PS print dialogue: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg Print driver dialogue http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
Ok, i see nothing out of the ordinary from what i have. The monitor is calibrated, colour prints come out exactly like the monitor, BW is darker than monitor, and from what i see, Dave's settings are the same as mine. Ann. I had to do that with my Canon, and hoped to avoid doing that with the 2400, as it is almost a $1000 printer up here, i didi not expect this snag. I have just gone out and bought a pack of Prem glossy 4x6 sheets as to not waste 8x10 sheets, and i'll have another go at this. if i find i have to bring up the curves to a certain point on screen, that gives me the look i want, can i make that a profile.?? PC XP home CS2 Mac Ibook G4 PSCS. Dave On 7/5/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I do, unless it's just a quick print of a snapshot. I never use RPM though. In my opinion it doesn't improve the image quality enough to justify the extra ink it uses. I've updated the screenshot. Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use (PC): PS print dialogue: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg Print driver dialogue http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
Oh, i had anothe look at the PS screen. I see you have the relative colourmetric, black point box turned off. I have that turned on. Lets see if thats it. Dave On 7/5/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Normally I do, unless it's just a quick print of a snapshot. I never use RPM though. In my opinion it doesn't improve the image quality enough to justify the extra ink it uses. I've updated the screenshot. Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised you're not printing Best or RIM quality with hi-speed off. Paul -- Original message -- From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I loaded the print drivers onto my laptop, here are the setting I use (PC): PS print dialogue: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_001.jpg Print driver dialogue http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/SS_002.jpg Cheers, Dave On 7/5/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson 2400 BW help
I use exactly the same setup to print BW or Color from Photoshop CS2 on Mac OS X. The Print W Preview dialog and Epson R2400 printer dialog settings are detailed here: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/R2400-CS2-print/ Only changes in recent months is that I have some of Epson's optional paper profiles for Enhanced Matte and Velvet Fine Art available now. I find very very little difference using them compared to the original profiles shows in this page. (I tested using Best Photo with High Speed turned on and off. No difference on an A3 print that I could see, but it took twice/three times as long to print with it off.) I've never printed with Glossy paper or the Photo Black ink with this printer, always with matte papers and the Matte Black ink. Godfrey On Jul 5, 2007, at 5:15 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Just wondering if someone out there, that is happy with what they print in BW could make a few screen shots and send me or post here, so i can see where i'm still going wrong here. Premium Glossy Paper and proper epson profile for same. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
