Re: OT: Fat Bear Week

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That's because you don't know me.
Katmai is the best place I have ever visited.  The bears, the other
wildlife, and "The Valley of 10,000 Smokes" are all incredible.
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 1:56 PM  wrote:

> I was expecting something in the Castro.
>
> On September 30, 2020 9:08:06 AM PDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" <
> danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Fat Bear Week Is The Only Sport I Care About Now
> ><https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-v/>
> >sbnation.com <https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-e/>
> >The Katmai National Park and Preserve in King Salmon, Alaska, is
> >holding
> >its annual competition to rate and appreciate the fattest bears living
> >in
> >the park. <https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-s/>
> >
> >
> https://www.sbnation.com/2020/9/28/21459844/fat-bear-week-contest-voting-2020?amp
> >;
> >
> >Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Fat Bear Week

[lrc]

I was expecting something in the Castro.

On September 30, 2020 9:08:06 AM PDT, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
 wrote:
>Fat Bear Week Is The Only Sport I Care About Now
><https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-v/>
>sbnation.com <https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-e/>
>The Katmai National Park and Preserve in King Salmon, Alaska, is
>holding
>its annual competition to rate and appreciate the fattest bears living
>in
>the park. <https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-s/>
>
>https://www.sbnation.com/2020/9/28/21459844/fat-bear-week-contest-voting-2020?amp
>;
>
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OT: Fat Bear Week

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Fat Bear Week Is The Only Sport I Care About Now
<https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-v/>
sbnation.com <https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-e/>
The Katmai National Park and Preserve in King Salmon, Alaska, is holding
its annual competition to rate and appreciate the fattest bears living in
the park. <https://digg.cmail20.com/t/t-l-xfldyd-qidddldht-s/>

https://www.sbnation.com/2020/9/28/21459844/fat-bear-week-contest-voting-2020?amp
;

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Re: PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 18.04.20 um 17:40 schrieb John:

But can she sing?


Not very nicely but you could hear her for miles when she was climbing
towards the border.

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Re: PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

[John]

But can she sing?

On 4/17/2020 07:11:22, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Ms. Ludmilla does not look fat at all : )

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Ralf R Radermacher , 17 Nis 2020 Cum, 11:26 tarihinde
şunu yazdı:


When the Berlin walll came down and the former East German railways were
integrated into the federal railways, our Western operation inherited a
bunch of big diesel engines 'Made in USSR'. Their origin soon earned
them the nickname Ludmilla.

Some of this series were used to pull heavy goods trains across the
border into Belgium. The photo shows such an engine shortly after
crossing the border.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/ludmilla-ist-uebern-berg-fotoralfbe/43727387

Enjoy

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Re: PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

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> On 17 April 2020 at 12:23 Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 17.04.20 um 13:11 schrieb Bulent Celasun:
> > Ms. Ludmilla does not look fat at all : )
> 
> They even had to put her on a diet to make her fit into the Belgian
> clearance gauge. :-)
> 

A Russian with a wide stance?  Perish the thought!  Looks more like a Vanya to 
me, with that moustache.

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Re: PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 17.04.20 um 13:11 schrieb Bulent Celasun:

Ms. Ludmilla does not look fat at all : )


They even had to put her on a diet to make her fit into the Belgian
clearance gauge. :-)

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Re: PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

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Am 17.04.20 um 13:11 schrieb Bulent Celasun:

Ms. Ludmilla does not look fat at all : )


You should see her muscles. She is formidably strong (4000 hp).

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Re: PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

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Ms. Ludmilla does not look fat at all : )

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Ralf R Radermacher , 17 Nis 2020 Cum, 11:26 tarihinde
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>
> When the Berlin walll came down and the former East German railways were
> integrated into the federal railways, our Western operation inherited a
> bunch of big diesel engines 'Made in USSR'. Their origin soon earned
> them the nickname Ludmilla.
>
> Some of this series were used to pull heavy goods trains across the
> border into Belgium. The photo shows such an engine shortly after
> crossing the border.
>
> https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/ludmilla-ist-uebern-berg-fotoralfbe/43727387
>
> Enjoy
>
> Ralf
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PESO: A fat Russian lady in Belgium

[Ralf R Radermacher]

When the Berlin walll came down and the former East German railways were
integrated into the federal railways, our Western operation inherited a
bunch of big diesel engines 'Made in USSR'. Their origin soon earned
them the nickname Ludmilla.

Some of this series were used to pull heavy goods trains across the
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crossing the border.

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/ludmilla-ist-uebern-berg-fotoralfbe/43727387

Enjoy

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Re: PESO - Big Fat Juicy Pigeon - and thoughts

[Jack Davis]

I had, also, read the 50mm was initially chosen for the reason Ann suggested.
Sharp pigeon catch!

J
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> On Apr 17, 2016, at 1:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Well you are barking mad of course we all know that...
> The pigeon is so perfectly placed he looks not quite real - like a decoy 
> almost...
> But even though it is you saying so, I'll believe he is realand say "good 
> grab" :-)
> 
> I love 50mm views... Read somewhere once that looking through an SLR 50 mm 
> lens
> was the closest to the natural proportions the human eye seeswhen not looking 
> through
> a viewfinder.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 4/17/2016 1:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> Sat outside in the back garden on a bright chilly day doing some lens
>> testing with the Tokina AT-X 90mm 2.5 Macro and a large pigeon landed in
>> the apple tree about 12 feet from me. Just long enough to swing the
>> camera up, manually focus using the excellent peaking assist (already
>> set to f/5.6 and 200 ISO, IS on) and fire 2 shots before he decided he
>> hadn't surveyed his landing site properly and I was too close for his
>> comfort. This is the first shot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Pen F + Tokina 90/2.5
>> Minimal crop, slight levels adjust, slight saturation increase.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am re-assessing my lens requirements. Boris is absolutely right in
>> that the Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 is far too slow to be a useful
>> general purpose lens (one to you Boris!) and I think I might sell it.
>> Thing is, it is a lovely landscape wide angle on APS-C and so I might
>> just hang onto it in case...
>> 
>> I've snagged an M50/1.4 off eekbay for 60 quid, waiting for that to
>> arrive. Portrait lens on a half-frame sensor.
>> 
>> When I had Pentax film cameras, I never got into 50mm lenses, finding
>> the angle of view neither here nor there. I had a 28mm which I loved,
>> and the other way you were into telephoto territory. Now, with my Pentax
>> 24/2.8 on a half-frame sensor, it gives an image like a 50mm, and am
>> actually enjoying it.
>> 
>> So the question is, do I replace the 15/4 with something like the Oly
>> 17/2.8? It's pricey, and actually I have always favoured a wider angle
>> as a general purpose lens. So I might consider the Oly 12/2 (which gives
>> an angle of view like a 24mm lens on a full-frame camera). But although
>> it has manual focus override, it's still an electronic lens with no
>> aperture ring.
>> 
>> Then I came across some reviews for the Samyang 12mm f/2 which point to
>> a good value for money lens. It's about 250 GBP which is a lot cheaper
>> than the Voigtlander 10.5mm f/.95 at 900 GBP!! The angle of view on half-
>> frame means it will act like a 24mm lens - ideal for my idea of a
>> 'general purpose' lens. That is, a lens that I would normally default
>> to, leaving it on the camera as it is picked up to be used.
>> 
>> I'm seriously tempted by the Samyang. I'm building up a kit that relies
>> on manual focus and manual aperture. This requires forethought in
>> setting up for photographing, a good challenge for me! The picture of
>> the pigeon would be so easy to get with an auto-everything cam/lens
>> combo, and when I used to have EOS 1D gear with IS lenses and machine-
>> gun capability I did all that, and it was fun, but now.
>> 
>> The satisfaction of achieving a similar photograph with a simple and
>> basic setup (not even a zoom lens) is high. I felt like I'd actually
>> used skill and judgement in getting a decent image [of the pigeon] and
>> so in a way the photo is almost a 'reward' for effort. I find this much
>> more satisfying as I get a little older now.
>> 
>> My son thinks I'm barking mad. But hey.
> 
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Re: PESO - Big Fat Juicy Pigeon - and thoughts

[ann sanfedele]

Well you are barking mad of course we all know that...
The pigeon is so perfectly placed he looks not quite real - like a decoy 
almost...
But even though it is you saying so, I'll believe he is realand say 
"good grab" :-)


I love 50mm views... Read somewhere once that looking through an SLR 50 
mm lens
was the closest to the natural proportions the human eye seeswhen not 
looking through

a viewfinder.

ann

On 4/17/2016 1:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Sat outside in the back garden on a bright chilly day doing some lens
testing with the Tokina AT-X 90mm 2.5 Macro and a large pigeon landed in
the apple tree about 12 feet from me. Just long enough to swing the
camera up, manually focus using the excellent peaking assist (already
set to f/5.6 and 200 ISO, IS on) and fire 2 shots before he decided he
hadn't surveyed his landing site properly and I was too close for his
comfort. This is the first shot.



Pen F + Tokina 90/2.5
Minimal crop, slight levels adjust, slight saturation increase.



I am re-assessing my lens requirements. Boris is absolutely right in
that the Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 is far too slow to be a useful
general purpose lens (one to you Boris!) and I think I might sell it.
Thing is, it is a lovely landscape wide angle on APS-C and so I might
just hang onto it in case...

I've snagged an M50/1.4 off eekbay for 60 quid, waiting for that to
arrive. Portrait lens on a half-frame sensor.

When I had Pentax film cameras, I never got into 50mm lenses, finding
the angle of view neither here nor there. I had a 28mm which I loved,
and the other way you were into telephoto territory. Now, with my Pentax
24/2.8 on a half-frame sensor, it gives an image like a 50mm, and am
actually enjoying it.

So the question is, do I replace the 15/4 with something like the Oly
17/2.8? It's pricey, and actually I have always favoured a wider angle
as a general purpose lens. So I might consider the Oly 12/2 (which gives
an angle of view like a 24mm lens on a full-frame camera). But although
it has manual focus override, it's still an electronic lens with no
aperture ring.

Then I came across some reviews for the Samyang 12mm f/2 which point to
a good value for money lens. It's about 250 GBP which is a lot cheaper
than the Voigtlander 10.5mm f/.95 at 900 GBP!! The angle of view on half-
frame means it will act like a 24mm lens - ideal for my idea of a
'general purpose' lens. That is, a lens that I would normally default
to, leaving it on the camera as it is picked up to be used.

I'm seriously tempted by the Samyang. I'm building up a kit that relies
on manual focus and manual aperture. This requires forethought in
setting up for photographing, a good challenge for me! The picture of
the pigeon would be so easy to get with an auto-everything cam/lens
combo, and when I used to have EOS 1D gear with IS lenses and machine-
gun capability I did all that, and it was fun, but now.

The satisfaction of achieving a similar photograph with a simple and
basic setup (not even a zoom lens) is high. I felt like I'd actually
used skill and judgement in getting a decent image [of the pigeon] and
so in a way the photo is almost a 'reward' for effort. I find this much
more satisfying as I get a little older now.

My son thinks I'm barking mad. But hey.






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PESO - Big Fat Juicy Pigeon - and thoughts

[Steve Cottrell]

Sat outside in the back garden on a bright chilly day doing some lens
testing with the Tokina AT-X 90mm 2.5 Macro and a large pigeon landed in
the apple tree about 12 feet from me. Just long enough to swing the
camera up, manually focus using the excellent peaking assist (already
set to f/5.6 and 200 ISO, IS on) and fire 2 shots before he decided he
hadn't surveyed his landing site properly and I was too close for his
comfort. This is the first shot.



Pen F + Tokina 90/2.5
Minimal crop, slight levels adjust, slight saturation increase.



I am re-assessing my lens requirements. Boris is absolutely right in
that the Voigtlander Heliar 15/4.5 is far too slow to be a useful
general purpose lens (one to you Boris!) and I think I might sell it.
Thing is, it is a lovely landscape wide angle on APS-C and so I might
just hang onto it in case...

I've snagged an M50/1.4 off eekbay for 60 quid, waiting for that to
arrive. Portrait lens on a half-frame sensor.

When I had Pentax film cameras, I never got into 50mm lenses, finding
the angle of view neither here nor there. I had a 28mm which I loved,
and the other way you were into telephoto territory. Now, with my Pentax
24/2.8 on a half-frame sensor, it gives an image like a 50mm, and am
actually enjoying it. 

So the question is, do I replace the 15/4 with something like the Oly
17/2.8? It's pricey, and actually I have always favoured a wider angle
as a general purpose lens. So I might consider the Oly 12/2 (which gives
an angle of view like a 24mm lens on a full-frame camera). But although
it has manual focus override, it's still an electronic lens with no
aperture ring.

Then I came across some reviews for the Samyang 12mm f/2 which point to
a good value for money lens. It's about 250 GBP which is a lot cheaper
than the Voigtlander 10.5mm f/.95 at 900 GBP!! The angle of view on half-
frame means it will act like a 24mm lens - ideal for my idea of a
'general purpose' lens. That is, a lens that I would normally default
to, leaving it on the camera as it is picked up to be used.

I'm seriously tempted by the Samyang. I'm building up a kit that relies
on manual focus and manual aperture. This requires forethought in
setting up for photographing, a good challenge for me! The picture of
the pigeon would be so easy to get with an auto-everything cam/lens
combo, and when I used to have EOS 1D gear with IS lenses and machine-
gun capability I did all that, and it was fun, but now.

The satisfaction of achieving a similar photograph with a simple and
basic setup (not even a zoom lens) is high. I felt like I'd actually
used skill and judgement in getting a decent image [of the pigeon] and
so in a way the photo is almost a 'reward' for effort. I find this much
more satisfying as I get a little older now.

My son thinks I'm barking mad. But hey.



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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Mark C]

Thanks, Dave, and to everyone else who had a look.

On 1/17/2015 9:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

nice detail and like the hue in it

Dave

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image for
a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very good
one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Mark C]

Thanks, Dan - I'm falling behind on my cat photo posting and have to 
work them in whenever possible!


Mark

On 1/17/2015 11:54 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Nice color, nice detail/

I ignored the cat.  

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image for
a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very good
one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Mark C]

That's it! Well - sorta. I "saw" a cat face two ears, two furry jowls 
and the feet down below, the eyes nose and mouth in the face.


- Mark

On 1/17/2015 12:21 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Or rather this:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/legendsofthemultiuniverse/images/e/ee/Pikachu_cute_happy_jump.png/revision/latest?cb=20140701061658 


http://goo.gl/dlycYB

Igor

PS. Mark, - I'm greatly enjoying all your snowflakes!


Ken Waller Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:59:20 -0800 wrote:

Very nice Mark, but I don't see a cat face, I see an entire cat 
splayed out as it it's about to land on all four feet !




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From: Mark C 



Subject: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image
for a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice color, nice detail/

I ignored the cat.  

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On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake
>
> I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
> characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image for
> a larger file.
>
> K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.
>
> Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very good
> one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.
>
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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[David J Brooks]

nice detail and like the hue in it

Dave

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake
>
> I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
> characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image for
> a larger file.
>
> K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.
>
> Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very good
> one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.
>
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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Alan C]

Or run over by a taxi on the Lenyenye-Tzaneen road!

Alan C

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From: Ken Waller

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 6:58 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

Very nice Mark, but I don't see a cat face, I see an entire cat splayed out 
as it it's about to land on all four feet !



-Original Message-

From: Mark C 



Subject: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image
for a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Actually, there was a cartoon character that I clearly see in this 
snowflake, but I cannot recall what it's called or what cartoon it was in. 
It's black and very aggressive, and if I remember correctly, there were 
many of them...


Anybody?

Igor

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Or rather this:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/legendsofthemultiuniverse/images/e/ee/Pikachu_cute_happy_jump.png/revision/latest?cb=20140701061658
http://goo.gl/dlycYB

Igor

PS. Mark, - I'm greatly enjoying all your snowflakes!


Ken Waller Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:59:20 -0800 wrote:

Very nice Mark, but I don't see a cat face, I see an entire cat splayed out 
as it it's about to land on all four feet !




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From: Mark C 



Subject: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image
for a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

Mark




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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Ken Waller]

Exactly !

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From: "Igor PDML-StR" 

Subject: Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)





Or rather this:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/legendsofthemultiuniverse/images/e/ee/Pikachu_cute_happy_jump.png/revision/latest?cb=20140701061658
http://goo.gl/dlycYB

Igor

PS. Mark, - I'm greatly enjoying all your snowflakes!


Ken Waller Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:59:20 -0800 wrote:

Very nice Mark, but I don't see a cat face, I see an entire cat splayed 
out as it it's about to land on all four feet !




-Original Message-

From: Mark C 



Subject: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image
for a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

Mark



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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Or rather this:

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/legendsofthemultiuniverse/images/e/ee/Pikachu_cute_happy_jump.png/revision/latest?cb=20140701061658
http://goo.gl/dlycYB

Igor

PS. Mark, - I'm greatly enjoying all your snowflakes!


Ken Waller Fri, 16 Jan 2015 20:59:20 -0800 wrote:

Very nice Mark, but I don't see a cat face, I see an entire cat splayed 
out as it it's about to land on all four feet !




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From: Mark C 



Subject: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image
for a larger file.

K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.

Mark


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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Ken Waller]

Very nice Mark, but I don't see a cat face, I see an entire cat splayed out as 
it it's about to land on all four feet !


-Original Message-
>From: Mark C 
 
>Subject: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)
>
>http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake
>
>I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the 
>characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image 
>for a larger file.
>
>K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.
>
>Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very 
>good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.
>
>Mark



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Re: PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Mark C]

Oops - tht was supposed to be "abstracted cat FACE"...

On 1/16/2015 10:50 PM, Mark C wrote:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the 
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the 
image for a larger file.


K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very 
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.


Mark

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PESO - Snowflake (with abstracted cat fat)

[Mark C]

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/snowflake

I see a cat face in the center of this, with features rendered in the 
characters of an alien alphabet. But that's just me. Click on the image 
for a larger file.


K-3, DFA 50mm reverse mounted on 220mm of extension, AF360FGZ flash.

Comments welcome... I have one more crystal in the queue (not a very 
good one) and then I'm out of new material until it snows again.


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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[knarf]

Yeah, I kinda felt the same way. Cluttered but it somehow worked. And I 
normally wouldn't have put the subject on that side of the page, but again, it 
just worked to my eye.

Thanks for commenting and thanks to all who looked.

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Walker  wrote:
>An intriguing portrait, Frank. I usually prefer unbusy, but there's a
>lot of interesting stuff going on and your composition is good -- I
>like it.
>
>On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:21 AM, knarf 
>wrote:
>> We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.
>>
>> Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his
>race face on:
>>
>> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>>
>> He didn't win.  ;-)
>>
>> But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments
>welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[knarf]

Well, I don't know if it's good that a photo needs to he deciphered.  ;-)

Thanks for your comment! Much appreciated. 

Cheers,
frank

Mark C  wrote:
>Nice shot - it reminds me of an old photo you might in a shoe box and 
>spend some time trying to decipher.
>
>On 1/31/2014 7:21 AM, knarf wrote:
>> We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.
>>
>> Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his
>race face on:
>>
>> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>>
>> He didn't win.  ;-)
>>
>> But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments
>welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[Mark C]

Nice shot - it reminds me of an old photo you might in a shoe box and 
spend some time trying to decipher.


On 1/31/2014 7:21 AM, knarf wrote:

We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[Bruce Walker]

An intriguing portrait, Frank. I usually prefer unbusy, but there's a
lot of interesting stuff going on and your composition is good -- I
like it.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:21 AM, knarf  wrote:
> We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow.
>
> Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race 
> face on:
>
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>
> He didn't win.  ;-)
>
> But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[knarf]

Thanks Jack!

Yeah, Matt didn't exactly "pose" in the most photogenic spot, did he. But hey, 
that's the environment he was in, what can I say?

Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank

Jack Davis  wrote:
>Those racing pits are mess. HA!
>Matt looks as though he feels clever and confident.
>Like it, Frank.
>
>Jack
>
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>
>
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>Subject: PESO - Fat Boy Matt
>
>We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. 
>
>Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his
>race face on:
>
>http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1
>
>He didn't win.  ;-)
>
>But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments
>welcome.
>
>Cheers,
>frank
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Re: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[Jack Davis]

Those racing pits are mess. HA!
Matt looks as though he feels clever and confident.
Like it, Frank.

Jack




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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:21 AM
Subject: PESO - Fat Boy Matt

We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. 

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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PESO - Fat Boy Matt

[knarf]

We had a messenger race last weekend. In the snow. 

Matt decided to race with fat tires for traction. Here he is with his race face 
on:

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2014/01/fat-boy-matt.html?m=1

He didn't win.  ;-)

But I kind of like the picture, and I hope you do, too. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank
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RE: Too fat to be photographed

[John Sessoms]

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From: Larry Colen

Interesting article by someone who is much more comfortable behind the camera 
than in front of it:

http://myfriendteresablog.com/so-youre-feeling-too-fat-to-be-photographed/


Although I'd like to lose some weight, I'm not 
"too-fat-to-be-photographed" ... I just don't think I'm particularly 
photogenic.


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Re: Too fat to be photographed

[Derby Chang]

Amen to that.  She coaxes excellent expressions out of her clients, so 
can't argue with the results.




On 2/02/2013 2:43 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Interesting article by someone who is much more comfortable behind the camera 
than in front of it:

http://myfriendteresablog.com/so-youre-feeling-too-fat-to-be-photographed/

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Re: Too fat to be photographed

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On Feb 2, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Interesting article by someone who is much more comfortable behind the camera 
> than in front of it:
> 
> http://myfriendteresablog.com/so-youre-feeling-too-fat-to-be-photographed/

Nice to read.  I've always despised seeing myself in photos but I'm getting 
better about it.

But the reason why there are very few photos of me as a kid is because money 
was tight and we didn't have a camera :)

Cheers,
Dave


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Too fat to be photographed

[Larry Colen]

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Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

These pun threads make me bristle.

Cheers,
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From: Ann Sanfedele 
Sent: October 17, 2012 10/17/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

tusk tusk!

ann

On 10/17/2012 22:16, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> Yeah, but I was trying to hog the attention.
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> This pic is a boar.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
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>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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>> Subject: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day
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Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

[Ann Sanfedele]

tusk tusk!

ann

On 10/17/2012 22:16, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Yeah, but I was trying to hog the attention.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

This pic is a boar.

Rick


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Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

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Yeah, but I was trying to hog the attention.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> This pic is a boar.
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> Rick
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> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

[Rick Womer]

This pic is a boar.

Rick

 
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RE: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

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Maybe he's having a bad hair day but I would not want to be the one to tell him.

;-)

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Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

[Don Guthrie]

Pretty picture of an ugly animal. Sharp too.


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Re: Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

[Tim Bray]

Wrong; his (or her) hair is excellent.  So’s the picture. -T

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Peso: Big Fat Pig on a Bad Hair Day

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Re: a fat enablement

[mike wilson]

On 31/03/2011 22:59, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Doug Franklin
  wrote:

On 2011-03-31 13:49, Mark Roberts wrote:


"Blessed are the cheesemakers..."


"Actually, I think he meant all producers and purveyors of dairy products
..."


"I am the whey, and the truth, and the life."


Cheeses of Nazareth.

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Re: a fat enablement

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Subject: Re: a fat enablement



On 2011-03-31 13:49, Mark Roberts wrote:


"Blessed are the cheesemakers..."


"Actually, I think he meant all producers and purveyors of dairy 
products ..."


Thats MOO like it.



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Re: a fat enablement

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>have you been sniffing glue?
>
>B

Sounds more like Charlie Sheen.

Riddle:  How much coke did Charlie Sheen snort?
Answer:  Enough to kill 2 1/2 men.

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Re: a fat enablement

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Doug Franklin
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> On 2011-03-31 13:49, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> "Blessed are the cheesemakers..."
>
> "Actually, I think he meant all producers and purveyors of dairy products
> ..."

"I am the whey, and the truth, and the life."

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Re: a fat enablement

[Doug Franklin]

On 2011-03-31 13:49, Mark Roberts wrote:


"Blessed are the cheesemakers..."


"Actually, I think he meant all producers and purveyors of dairy 
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Re: a fat enablement

[Cotty]

On 31/3/11, Collin Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Not at all.  And since the image was just a re-enactment (of course, duh),
>I'll take the opportunity to say that ...
>
>1)  This was his pose for the statue in South Bend.
>2)  He is clearly a Packer fan.
>3)  It's all about the cheddar.  Large curds.  Very large curds.

I'll go with that.



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Re: a fat enablement

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On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 18:34:31 +0100, you wrote:

>On 30/3/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>there's a photo of Jesus here, boasting about the size of his lens.
>>http://www.goodsalt.com/details/ebsps1123.html
>
>Actually he's referring to a rather large piece of brie.

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a fat enablement

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>Actually he's referring to a rather large piece of brie.
>
>Cotty

Not at all.  And since the image was just a re-enactment (of course, duh),
I'll take the opportunity to say that ...

1)  This was his pose for the statue in South Bend.
2)  He is clearly a Packer fan.
3)  It's all about the cheddar.  Large curds.  Very large curds.

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Re: a fat enablement

[Cotty]

On 30/3/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>there's a photo of Jesus here, boasting about the size of his lens.
>http://www.goodsalt.com/details/ebsps1123.html

Actually he's referring to a rather large piece of brie.

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RE: a fat enablement

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

> > kris
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>have you been sniffing glue?

No just sensor dust..

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RE: a fat enablement

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> This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-
> bodied limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there
> is the EX bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him
> why he wanted another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just
> the fourteen he had and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy..
> but dude, she can cook like no other!
> 
> Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a
> gravity of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only
> she can do. And I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.
> 
> http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35
> 
> kris

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RE: a fat enablement

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> > Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
> > more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
> > husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T
> >
> 
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there's a photo of Jesus here, boasting about the size of his lens.
http://www.goodsalt.com/details/ebsps1123.html

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Re: a fat enablement

[Steven Desjardins]

Hold on guys.  Let me go make some popcorn.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM, William Robb
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> On 30/03/2011 10:30 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
>>
>> Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
>> more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
>> husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T
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Re: a fat enablement

[William Robb]

On 30/03/2011 10:30 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T



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Re: a fat enablement

[Tim Bray]

Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics
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> This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-bodied 
> limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there is the EX 
> bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him why he wanted 
> another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just the fourteen he had 
> and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy.. but dude, she can cook like 
> no other!
>
> Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a 
> gravity of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only she 
> can do. And I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.
>
> http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35
>
> kris
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RE: a fat enablement

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

She actually remarked that her sister 12-24 was even fatter and heavier and got 
genuinely upset at the "can of tomatoes" remark, asked if I had ever seen a tin 
can with such a beautiful bulbous glass top. I had to reassure her that K-5 
would never mount a tin can unless she had some extremely nice features - and 
that I had never seen one that would even come close.

kris 

P.S. Yes I have too much work to do and am looking for distractions.. PDML is 
letting me down today (this far). Procrastination ftw.

> This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-
> bodied limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there
> is the EX bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him
> why he wanted another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just
> the fourteen he had and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy..
> but dude, she can cook like no other!
> 
> Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a
> gravity of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only
> she can do. And I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.
> 
> http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35
> 
> kris

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a fat enablement

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-bodied 
limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there is the EX 
bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him why he wanted 
another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just the fourteen he had 
and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy.. but dude, she can cook like no 
other!

Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a gravity 
of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only she can do. And 
I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.

http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35

kris


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Re: OT: Fat bikes

[Ken Waller]

As in http://surlybikes.com/frames/pugsley_frame/

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- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Robinson" 


Subject: Re: OT: Fat bikes


On Mar 12, 2011, at 13:14,   
wrote:


Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed of 
bikes used in the winter time, in Alaska.


This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike' 
http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3




There is a bike-manufacturing company here in Minneapolis called Surly 
which makes such a fat-tire bike as well.  Very cool, very expensive.


One of the brewers here at "Surly Brewing" rides a Surly Bike and keeps a 
can of Surly beer in the bottle cage.  It's a fun combo.


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Re: OT: Fat bikes

[Scott Loveless]

On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Mar 12, 2011, at 13:14,   
> wrote:
>
>> Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed of 
>> bikes used in the winter time, in Alaska.
>>
>> This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike' 
>> http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3
>>
>
> There is a bike-manufacturing company here in Minneapolis called Surly which 
> makes such a fat-tire bike as well.  Very cool, very expensive.

Surly offers the Pugsley.  The complete bike
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/pugsley_complete/ retails for about $1500.
 Frame sets are around 5 or 600.  Their sister company, Salsa, has the
Mukluk.  http://salsacycles.com/bikes/mukluk/  Salsa bikes are
typically a few bucks more than the Surly counterpart.

A neighbor of mine has been doing some contract work in Sydney,
Australia and has spotted two different Pugsleys there.  I have yet to
see one in the wild.

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Re: OT: Fat bikes

[steve harley]

On 2011-03-12 13:46 , Charles Robinson wrote:

On Mar 12, 2011, at 13:14,wrote:


Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed of bikes 
used in the winter time, in Alaska.

This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike' 
http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3



There is a bike-manufacturing company here in Minneapolis called Surly which 
makes such a fat-tire bike as well.  Very cool, very expensive.

One of the brewers here at "Surly Brewing" rides a Surly Bike and keeps a can 
of Surly beer in the bottle cage.  It's a fun combo.


an effective but rare defusing of the too-hipness of Surleys ... i've 
been wanting to find a decal for my no brand cruiser (actually an 
ancient Miyata touring frame) that uses the same typeface as Surley and 
reads "Srsly"


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Re: OT: Fat bikes

[Charles Robinson]

On Mar 12, 2011, at 13:14,   wrote:

> Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed of bikes 
> used in the winter time, in Alaska.
> 
> This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike' 
> http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3
> 

There is a bike-manufacturing company here in Minneapolis called Surly which 
makes such a fat-tire bike as well.  Very cool, very expensive.

One of the brewers here at "Surly Brewing" rides a Surly Bike and keeps a can 
of Surly beer in the bottle cage.  It's a fun combo.

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Re: OT: Fat bikes

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-03-12 2:14 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed 
of bikes used in the winter time, in Alaska.


This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike' 
http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3


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Cool!  With a real Reynolds steel frame too. That's a tough bike.

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RE: Fat bikes

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> kwal...@peoplepc.com


> Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed of
> bikes used in the winter time, in Alaska.
> 
> This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike'
> http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3
> 

a bottle-opener welded to the frame! Now that's what I call innovation!

And the rest of the bike looks like fun too.

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OT: Fat bikes

[kwaller]

Ran across an article in Alaska Magazine about a whole 'nother breed of 
bikes used in the winter time, in Alaska.


This link will show  one example  of the 'Fat bike' 
http://viciouscycles.com/frames-thunderwing.php3



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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[P. J. Alling]

I guess I know now...

On 5/7/2010 6:46 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30 +0200, "Dario Bonazza"
  wrote:
   

Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if this
nothing can develop...

 


Wellhere's a start.

http://barnsdale.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/white-fat-cat.jpg



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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[P. J. Alling]

On 5/7/2010 5:30 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if 
this nothing can develop...


Dario


Into what?

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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[frank theriault]

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Dario Bonazza  wrote:

> This can follow:
> http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blgiantcat2.htm
>
> What about unleashing our Ontario troops?

Is that Dave Brooks "holding" that "cat"?

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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[Dario Bonazza]

Brian Walters wrote:


Wellhere's a start.

http://barnsdale.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/white-fat-cat.jpg



This can follow:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blgiantcat2.htm

What about unleashing our Ontario troops?

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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[Anthony Farr]

I Googled +"fat cat" v +"big ass" and got mostly images similar to
yours, Brian.  That is, big assed fat cats.  At the same time, and
because I have filtering set to "off" in Google search preferences, I
got a selection of results that were definitely NSFW.

regards, Anthony

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On 7 May 2010 20:46, Brian Walters  wrote:
> On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30 +0200, "Dario Bonazza"
>  wrote:
>> Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if this
>> nothing can develop...
>>
>
>
> Wellhere's a start.
>
> http://barnsdale.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/white-fat-cat.jpg
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian

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Re: Fat cat vs. big ass

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30 +0200, "Dario Bonazza"
 wrote:
> Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if this 
> nothing can develop...
> 


Wellhere's a start.

http://barnsdale.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/white-fat-cat.jpg



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Nothing to say, really. Subject line is just decorative. Let see if this 
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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[John Sessoms]

From: Joseph McAllister

On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist 
> > wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it  
>> up to my
>> IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files  
>> that are
>> on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and  
>> the Mac
>> disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac  
>> Extended?

>
> isledge


That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was  
confused!:-) 





Oh. Now it all makes sense.

http://www.skippertoys.com/sledge.html

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RE: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[John Sessoms]

From: P N Stenquist
I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up  
to my IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the  
files that are on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS  
FAT, and the Mac disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to  
reformat it to Mac Extended?

Paul


Fdisk ought to be able to do it.

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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Graydon  wrote:
?
>>>
>>> isledge
>>
>> That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was confused!
>
> No, no, it's a disk for a _Mac_.  "isledge" should be "iSledge", but
> hey, mere issues of capitalization.

Dam, i was so close.

Dave
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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
> I TRY to be! But it's a thankless task.
>
> I'm starting to work him over on FaceBook as well.
>
> But I have to be careful. There may be implications taunting a Canadian!
> :-)

We still have a full box of geese around here. Be careful

Dave
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>
> On Oct 16, 2009, at 16:47 , Ken Waller wrote:
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>> Are you the official Brooksey translator ?  ;+}
>
> Joseph McAllister
> pentax...@mac.com
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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Joseph McAllister]

On Oct 16, 2009, at 18:02 , Brian Walters wrote:



No, iSledge. As in iPod, iTunes, iPhone...


isee





I have a PC so...


I have an iMac, so…

iDump
  o
  o
  o
 ☁


iWin  ;-P





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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Graydon]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 03:58:46PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit:
> On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist > > wrote:
>>>
>>> I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it  
>>> up to my
>>> IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files  
>>> that are
>>> on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and the 
>>> Mac
>>> disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac  
>>> Extended?
>>
>> isledge
>
> That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was confused!   

No, no, it's a disk for a _Mac_.  "isledge" should be "iSledge", but
hey, mere issues of capitalization.

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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 
Subject: Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?




But I have to be careful. There may be implications taunting a  
Canadian!   :-)



You might be the victim of a drive by shouting.

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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Joseph McAllister]

I TRY to be! But it's a thankless task.

I'm starting to work him over on FaceBook as well.

But I have to be careful. There may be implications taunting a  
Canadian!   :-)



On Oct 16, 2009, at 16:47 , Ken Waller wrote:


Are you the official Brooksey translator ?  ;+}


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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:49 -0400, "Ken Waller" 
wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "David Savage" 
> Subject: Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?
> 
> 2009/10/17 Joseph McAllister :
> >> On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:
> >>> isledge
> >>
> >> That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was confused! 
> >> :-)
> 
> >No, iSledge. As in iPod, iTunes, iPhone...
> 
> isee
> 



I have a PC so...

iWin



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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "David Savage" 

Subject: Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?


2009/10/17 Joseph McAllister :

On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist 
wrote:


I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up 
to

my
IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files that
are
on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and the 
Mac

disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac
Extended?


isledge


That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was confused! 
:-)



No, iSledge. As in iPod, iTunes, iPhone...


isee



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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Ken Waller]

Are you the official Brooksey translator ?  ;+}

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 


Subject: Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?


On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist > wrote:


I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it  
up to my
IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files  
that are
on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and  
the Mac
disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac  
Extended?


isledge


That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was  
confused!   :-)





Dave


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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[David Savage]

2009/10/17 Joseph McAllister :
> On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up to
>>> my
>>> IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files that
>>> are
>>> on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and the Mac
>>> disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac
>>> Extended?
>>
>> isledge
>
> That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was confused!   :-)

No, iSledge. As in iPod, iTunes, iPhone...

DS

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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Joseph McAllister]

On Oct 16, 2009, at 14:10 , David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist > wrote:


I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it  
up to my
IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files  
that are
on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and  
the Mac
disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac  
Extended?


isledge


That was Dave, trying to type "a sledge". In case anyone was  
confused!   :-)




Dave


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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[P N Stenquist]

Thanks to all who replied. It's a Maxtor disk, and the Mac version of  
one-touch backup software was running. That's why it wouldn't erased.  
After quitting one-touch I was able to reformat it.

Paul
On Oct 16, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


P N Stenquist wrote:
I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it  
up to my IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access  
the files that are on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated  
with MSDOS FAT, and the Mac disk utility won't erase it. What do I  
need to reformat it to Mac Extended?

Paul


Won't erase it? That's odd. Unless the drive is somehow write- 
protected the Disk Utility will happily reformat *any* mountable  
volume you present it with.  Make sure you select the drive itself  
and not one of its existing volumes when you try to select Erase.   
Select Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as the type, and don't bother  
with Erase Free Space or the security options.


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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Luiz Felipe]

Assuming a disk utility fail you could use a linux boot tool to get rid 
of the fat partition. Parted Magic is less than 100mb, and does a fine 
job out of a pendrive (SD cards too).


You could have a damaged disk - I had some issues with a 500gb MyBook, 
earlier this year.


lf

P N Stenquist escreveu:
I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up 
to my IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files 
that are on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, 
and the Mac disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it 
to Mac Extended?

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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, P N Stenquist  wrote:
>
> I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up to my
> IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files that are
> on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, and the Mac
> disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it to Mac Extended?

isledge

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Re: OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[Bruce Walker]

P N Stenquist wrote:


I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up 
to my IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the files 
that are on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS FAT, 
and the Mac disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to reformat it 
to Mac Extended?

Paul


Won't erase it? That's odd. Unless the drive is somehow write-protected 
the Disk Utility will happily reformat *any* mountable volume you 
present it with.  Make sure you select the drive itself and not one of 
its existing volumes when you try to select Erase.  Select Mac OS 
Extended (Journaled) as the type, and don't bother with Erase Free Space 
or the security options.


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OT: Erasing an MS DOS FAT volume on a mac?

[P N Stenquist]

I picked up a 500 gig Maxtor drive for next to nothing. I hooked it up  
to my IMac 24, and system 10.5 recognizes it, and I can access the  
files that are on it. But I want to erase it. It's formated with MSDOS  
FAT, and the Mac disk utility won't erase it. What do I need to  
reformat it to Mac Extended?

Paul

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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Doug Brewer]

Cotty wrote:

PDML member Chris Mitchell plays in a band called Fat Freddy's Cat and
last night they crammed themselves and their gear into a small pub in
the Oxfordshire countryside, and played to a packed house. 5 shots:

<http://www.cottysnaps.com/fatcat.html>


that camera's unusable.

send it to me and I'll see what I can do with it.

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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Cotty]

On 23/3/09, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>And I can relive the fear of playing to an audience including a tall guy
>taking photographs which I knew would be revealing - but atmospheric and the
>best pictures ever of FFC.

You're too kind - I wasn't trying! Trouble is, when I'm trying, I'm
annoying, cos then I'm leaping about and in your face - albeit for only
one number, but it can be frustrating. Only tend to do that at
rehearsals though - most musicians (quite rightly) put the punter first
and don't want lunatics obstructing the audience's view.

We could maybe talk about doing you a video though.

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RE: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Chris Mitchell]

And I can relive the fear of playing to an audience including a tall guy
taking photographs which I knew would be revealing - but atmospheric and the
best pictures ever of FFC.

Well done Cotty - and thanks again.

Chris

> -Original Message-
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> frank theriault
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> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> > PDML member Chris Mitchell plays in a band called Fat Freddy's Cat and
> > last night they crammed themselves and their gear into a small pub in
> > the Oxfordshire countryside, and played to a packed house. 5 shots:
> >
> > <http://www.cottysnaps.com/fatcat.html>
>
> Great stuff.  I can feel the emotion of the music as I look at these.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 23/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>>
>>> 
>>
>>Great stuff.  I can feel the emotion of the music as I look at these.
>
> Frank, you're f*cking star mate. That's made my day!

My favorite "concerts" are played in smallish pubs and bars by
musicians crammed together on tiny stages.  When one is 10 feet from
the musicians you can "feel" the music in a way that just doesn't
happen in a larger venue.  When I was a kid I went to rock concerts at
stadia of various sizes - I think 70,000 at Rich Stadium in Buffalo to
see Yes was the largest I went to - and from the 50 yard line at
ground level the stage looked like a postage stamp.

Sure the music was loud (my ears rang for days afterwards) but there
wasn't a whiff of emotion to be felt - mind you it ~was~ Yes, so there
wasn't a lot of emotion to be felt from the outset.

A rather pleasant side-effect of my changing musical tastes has been
that much of what I like (jazz, blues, folk, a bit of indy-rock, small
chambre orchestras) is played by smallish combos playing in intimate
spaces.

You've captured that intimacy and emotion so well!  That's why I liked
your photos.

cheers,
frank



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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Cotty]

On 23/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>>
>> 
>
>Great stuff.  I can feel the emotion of the music as I look at these.

Frank, you're f*cking star mate. That's made my day!

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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[Cotty]

On 24/3/09, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>I'm certainly fond of the R-D1 noise characteristic, too. It would be a
>difficult thing to sell to a new user, but the naturalness of the grain
>is one of it's subtle bonuses.

Interesting. It's the first time I shot with it like that, and it
reminds me of loading up some HP4 (sic) as a student, and then pushing
the hell out of it at a gig in a Spottie and trying to soup it so it
printed something even slightly viewable. But when you're a student, and
you get big grainy blurry hell, your student mates looked at it and said
wow that's cool. And it was.

Do it today and they talk about d-max and banding. Times change

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Re: Fat Feddy's Cat

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> PDML member Chris Mitchell plays in a band called Fat Freddy's Cat and
> last night they crammed themselves and their gear into a small pub in
> the Oxfordshire countryside, and played to a packed house. 5 shots:
>
> <http://www.cottysnaps.com/fatcat.html>

Great stuff.  I can feel the emotion of the music as I look at these.

cheers,
frank

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