Re: PESO Bass Trombone
On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:13 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: That's a very cool shot! Thanks. Took a brief look at the rest of the set and I liked it a lot. The bw shots work especially well imho. Thanks again. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bass Trombone
Graphic. Love it. Go with the grain abd flare. Really like the other sweaty ones in the set too D On 18/06/2012 3:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bass Trombone
Larry, 1. Regarding the glare, - I remember reading somewhere (maybe even from a source posted here, on PDML) an advaice that with DSLRs the sunshades should be used at [almost] all times. I don't remember the reasoning, however. In any case, the newer lenses are designed (or coated?) to reduce the flare that can be produced due to high reflectance of the matrix. I am not sure if that might be the culprit here. Obviously, A*200 does not have that in its design/coating. 2. I like several photos from this set (mostly portraits and group photos). I don't care much for the trombone one - it might be somewhat mesmerizing but it is too mechanistic for me personally. I hope you don't mind me sharing my rather critical view on some of other photos below. Continuing the idea that I mentioned to you in response to the book photos, - I would leave out these photos: 20120617-LRC51609.jpg 20120617-LRC51549.jpg and probably (it's close to the border-line here) 20120617-LRC51548.jpg . For the first two, I don't appreciate the composition, for the last one, - the combination: composition (which can be fixed partially, - by cropping), and a combination of the facial expression with the grain. The composition/crop of 20120616-LRC51257.jpg is not my favorite either. 3. After glancing over the set first time, I thought that you can use a mix of BW and color on one of the shots... (I even pulled mine as an example: http://42graphy.komkon.org/swing/camphollywood-2007/Artsy/index.html - sorry, it requires flash plugin) And then I found that you did that in the first photo, 20120616-LRC51164.jpg 4. Speaking of that first photo, - even though it is interesting for the reason discussed in 3 above, the composition seems to be rather disjointed. I would consider splitting this photo into two. The right side, cut just to left of the orange light or to the right (or possibly even through the light?) is more interesting. The left one might not stand on its own. Igor On 18/06/2012 3:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bass Trombone
On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, 1. Regarding the glare, - I remember reading somewhere (maybe even from a source posted here, on PDML) an advaice that with DSLRs the sunshades should be used at [almost] all times. I don't remember the reasoning, however. In any case, the newer lenses are designed (or coated?) to reduce the flare that can be produced due to high reflectance of the matrix. I am not sure if that might be the culprit here. Obviously, A*200 does not have that in its design/coating. Yesterday I tried making an enhanced lens hood, one with a narrower field of view, that would do a better job of shading the lens. I tested it and couldn't get that nasty glare either with, or without the extra hood. So, I'm puzzled. It might only be so obvious with a really, really dark background. 2. I like several photos from this set (mostly portraits and group photos). I don't care much for the trombone one - it might be somewhat mesmerizing but it is too mechanistic for me personally. That's what happens when you turn the dial to 11, some people love it, others hate it. I hope you don't mind me sharing my rather critical view on some of other photos below. Feedback is always appreciated. Continuing the idea that I mentioned to you in response to the book photos, - I would leave out these photos: 20120617-LRC51609.jpg 20120617-LRC51549.jpg and probably (it's close to the border-line here) 20120617-LRC51548.jpg . For the first two, I don't appreciate the composition, for the last one, - the combination: composition (which can be fixed partially, - by cropping), and a combination of the facial expression with the grain. The composition/crop of 20120616-LRC51257.jpg is not my favorite either. I'm very new to getting photos of the audience. The bands that I usually shoot are either playing for dancers, or don't have much of an audience (jam nights at the local dive bar). I might like them as much for their novelty in my collection as anything else. 3. After glancing over the set first time, I thought that you can use a mix of BW and color on one of the shots... (I even pulled mine as an example: http://42graphy.komkon.org/swing/camphollywood-2007/Artsy/index.html - sorry, it requires flash plugin) And then I found that you did that in the first photo, 20120616-LRC51164.jpg Great minds think alike. 4. Speaking of that first photo, - even though it is interesting for the reason discussed in 3 above, the composition seems to be rather disjointed. I would consider splitting this photo into two. The right side, cut just to left of the orange light or to the right (or possibly even through the light?) is more interesting. The left one might not stand on its own. http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/7403887422/ Igor On 18/06/2012 3:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bass Trombone
Tue Jun 19 17:22:27 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 19, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: 4. Speaking of that first photo, - even though it is interesting for the reason discussed in 3 above, the composition seems to be rather disjointed. I would consider splitting this photo into two. The right side, cut just to left of the orange light or to the right (or possibly even through the light?) is more interesting. The left one might not stand on its own. http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/7403887422/ Yes, that's what I meant.. It is better this way (IMHO), but I am not totally happy with it. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bass Trombone
That's very cool, Larry. That first shot drew me in and I greatly enjoyed the entire gallery. Very well done indeed. Congrats! Faves: LRC51286.jpg is a great band moment. I like LRC51539.jpg as a crowd capture. LRC51635.jpg and LRC51650.jpg really capture the energy and fun. And LRC51668.jpg is very notable for the unusual light and colour. I guess this is via Lr knob twiddling, but it's really interesting and effective. Can you make a preset from that, I wonder? You could do a whole series based on that semi-solarized-look processing. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Bass Trombone
Very nice shot Dave On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: That's very cool, Larry. That first shot drew me in and I greatly enjoyed the entire gallery. Very well done indeed. Congrats! Thank you very much. Faves: LRC51286.jpg is a great band moment. I like LRC51539.jpg as a crowd capture. LRC51635.jpg and LRC51650.jpg really capture the energy and fun. And LRC51668.jpg is very notable for the unusual light and colour. I guess this is via Lr knob twiddling, but it's really interesting and effective. Can you make a preset from that, I wonder? You could do a whole series based on that semi-solarized-look processing. That's a digital exposure trick, not a processing trick, but not one I can take credit for. There are colored lights in the background that are blown out, but the area illuminated by them isn't blown out. The audience is illuminated by the stage lights, giving them a magenta cast. But, it might be fun to use strings of colored in the background of a portrait, particularly if they are far enough back to be out of focus. On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great set, Larry! Looks like you found a good groove. -- Walt On 6/18/2012 12:06 AM, Larry Colen wrote: A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Bass Trombone
That's a very cool shot! Took a brief look at the rest of the set and I liked it a lot. The bw shots work especially well imho. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Sent: June 18, 2012 6/18/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO Bass Trombone A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Bass Trombone
A friend and I went to see a couple of bands at a local club last night. I managed to get a few decent photos. The lighting was a bit challenging. In this shot, rather than trying to bring it under control, I went the other way and used lightroom's clarity, vibrance etc. to push it right over the top: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7391897310 For them that are interested, here's the rest of the set: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630171300160/ On some of them I tried to tame the lighting in lightroom, in others I went with it, though not so radically as above. Comments, and helpful suggestions, as always, are appreciated. I notice that I was having a fair amount of difficulty with flare on the A*200, even when stage lights weren't in the field of view. I may need to make something like a lens cap for the sunshade, that has a rectangle cut out to block anything not in the field of view. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
