Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
On 5 December 2011 18:43, Charles Robinson wrote: Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles Some good gig shots Charles. The audience one is outstanding. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Charles, Nice catch! I especially like the audience shot! The spotlight beam is a great lucky addition. I try to remember to aim my camera back into the audience at almost every show at least once. You get some very interesting shots when everyone is (almost) looking at the camera. And, as you state, it's not done very often. In my workshops on Photography and Dancers, I point out that there are other interesting subjects at dance events. I quote this text from the musicle Cabaret: The girls are beautiful... The audience is beautiful, too... Even the orchestra is beautiful!, suggesting to photograph the audience, the orchestra, and other things that might be happening off the dance floor. Usually, I show some of these shots as examples: http://42graphy.org/swing/lindyfest-2010/_IR_6443.html http://42graphy.org/swing/lindyfest-2010/_IR_6448.html http://42graphy.org/swing/abw-2009/13-Saturday-acbc-3-final/IMGP8353.html Yours is also a good example of that idea. I agree with the square crop. While I typically preserve the aspect ratio of the shot when cropping (if I keep it rectangular), I change it to a square often and without reservations. During the time of shooting, for this particular shot, I may have chosen to turn the camera vertically, and zoom in on the dancers. That might add some dynamics. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
I've been thinking about cropping options since you posted the square one, Charles. I find that the dancers are just too closed in on the square crop. They need a bit of breathing room. I think I'd consider the left side of the frame including the bass, or maybe even half or all of that acoustic guitar. Just a thought. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Sent: December 6, 2011 12/6/11 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience Charles, Nice catch! I especially like the audience shot! The spotlight beam is a great lucky addition. I try to remember to aim my camera back into the audience at almost every show at least once. You get some very interesting shots when everyone is (almost) looking at the camera. And, as you state, it's not done very often. In my workshops on Photography and Dancers, I point out that there are other interesting subjects at dance events. I quote this text from the musicle Cabaret: The girls are beautiful... The audience is beautiful, too... Even the orchestra is beautiful!, suggesting to photograph the audience, the orchestra, and other things that might be happening off the dance floor. Usually, I show some of these shots as examples: http://42graphy.org/swing/lindyfest-2010/_IR_6443.html http://42graphy.org/swing/lindyfest-2010/_IR_6448.html http://42graphy.org/swing/abw-2009/13-Saturday-acbc-3-final/IMGP8353.html Yours is also a good example of that idea. I agree with the square crop. While I typically preserve the aspect ratio of the shot when cropping (if I keep it rectangular), I change it to a square often and without reservations. During the time of shooting, for this particular shot, I may have chosen to turn the camera vertically, and zoom in on the dancers. That might add some dynamics. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
On Dec 6, 2011, at 14:58, Igor Roshchin wrote: Charles, Nice catch! I especially like the audience shot! The spotlight beam is a great lucky addition. Thank you. suggesting to photograph the audience, the orchestra, and other things that might be happening off the dance floor. Usually, I show some of these shots as examples: http://42graphy.org/swing/lindyfest-2010/_IR_6443.html http://42graphy.org/swing/lindyfest-2010/_IR_6448.html http://42graphy.org/swing/abw-2009/13-Saturday-acbc-3-final/IMGP8353.html Good stuff! Yes, that's kind of what I'm trying to do when I turn the camera around. One such shot is one I shared with the group here back in June: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/rebel_rebel/content/IMGP1657_large.html Yours is also a good example of that idea. :-) During the time of shooting, for this particular shot, I may have chosen to turn the camera vertically, and zoom in on the dancers. That might add some dynamics. Fixed-focal-length 90mm lens, and the dancers were in-and-out in about 45 seconds. If I'd tried to swap in the 135mm lens it would have all been too late. With the exception of the times I need a wide angle (thus utilizing the 16-50) I never shoot with zooms at a concert. Too SLOW. This could change someday if I ever get my hands on a K5. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
On 6/12/2011 5:43 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles The confetti shots are really eyecatching. Darn good lighting too -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Oops.. I just sent this message in response to a wrong thread... From s...@trantor.komkon.org Tue Dec 6 16:47:36 2011 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:47:35 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: K-5 is shipped off to CRIS Tue Dec 6 16:21:30 EST 2011 Charles Robinson wrote: One such shot is one I shared with the group here back in June: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/rebel_rebel/content/IMGP1657_large.html That's a very nice one! I hadn't seen it before. With the exception of the times I need a wide angle (thus utilizing the 16-50) I never shoot with zooms at a concert. Too SLOW. This could change someday if I ever get my hands on a K5. Tamron 90/2.8 ? or Sigma? Exif says A lens, so, I am guessing, it's a Sigma. That's when I love using 50-135/2.8. Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8 is also good for that, but for some strange reason, it is not performing as well with the digital bodies as it used to do with the film body: the photos are not as sharp. I even had it checked, but have been told it is just fine. I've tried to use 16-50/2.8 for dances, but I am underwhelmed with it, at least for this purpose. 17-70/4 turned out to be almost perfect when I can use a flash. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
On Dec 6, 2011, at 15:48, Igor Roshchin wrote: Oops.. I just sent this message in response to a wrong thread... With the exception of the times I need a wide angle (thus utilizing the 16-50) I never shoot with zooms at a concert. Too SLOW. This could change someday if I ever get my hands on a K5. Tamron 90/2.8 ? or Sigma? Exif says A lens, so, I am guessing, it's a Sigma. It's the Tamron 90 f/2.5 - Adaptall-2 mount. I got it for $80. But in order to buy it, the seller made me take the ZX-7, the TTL flash cable with ends so that you can use the flash remotely, the Tamron camera bag (which is now my primary bag), and the Pentax 28-80 lens as well. All or nothing he says. OK -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Especially like the house shot. The spotlight timing was perfect. -p On 12/5/2011 12:43 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show /content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show /content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) Both very well done. The first captures their spirit very nicely. The second is quite unusual - not something one sees often. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 13:59, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show /content/IMGP5948_large.html http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show /content/IMGP5912_large.html Both very well done. The first captures their spirit very nicely. The second is quite unusual - not something one sees often. Thanks, Bob. I try to remember to aim my camera back into the audience at almost every show at least once. You get some very interesting shots when everyone is (almost) looking at the camera. And, as you state, it's not done very often. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Nice shots! Charles Robinson Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:43:21 -0800 Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Charles, The first one is theatrical and fun - well caught of the performers (your daughter?). The second shot is great and the spotlight does tie it all together. Well done! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 14:06, Bob Sullivan wrote: Charles, The first one is theatrical and fun - well caught of the performers (your daughter?). My understanding is that the lady is his wife... she might be flattered to be told that someone thought she was the daughter of a 46-year-old, though! The second shot is great and the spotlight does tie it all together. Well done! Thanks for the feedback! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Both are fine images, but I especially like the first one. Each dancer appears to be genuinely enjoying what they're doing and that bass player is really getting into it! Moment perfectly caught from the right pov. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Sent: December 5, 2011 12/5/11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
Very nice capture, great lighting color capture. A stronger image, IMO, would result if you cropped the guitars out on the left some of the space to the right of the base player. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience
On Dec 5, 2011, at 15:49, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very nice capture, great lighting color capture. A stronger image, IMO, would result if you cropped the guitars out on the left some of the space to the right of the base player. Thanks, Ken. I actually agree with you - typically I am hamstrung by my foolish insistence upon maintaining the aspect ratio as shot when I crop. I should get over that. I'll try squaring it up and see what it does then. Like this? http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/IMGP5948.jpg - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Now thats what I'm talking about. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: Re: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience On Dec 5, 2011, at 15:49, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very nice capture, great lighting color capture. A stronger image, IMO, would result if you cropped the guitars out on the left some of the space to the right of the base player. Thanks, Ken. I actually agree with you - typically I am hamstrung by my foolish insistence upon maintaining the aspect ratio as shot when I crop. I should get over that. I'll try squaring it up and see what it does then. Like this? http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/IMGP5948.jpg - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com Subject: PESO x2: Dancers and Audience http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Expressions and body position of the two dancers is fantastic, Charles. Really great. Love the 2nd shot as well. I think a BW rendering would be great for that one, but the color rendering is excellent as well. Great work! Cheers, Christine On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Some friends of mine threw a show in St. Paul on Friday night. I got in for free in exchange for photographing the festivities - a fair exchange. One favorite image from the gallery is this one: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5948_large.html The other one was taken while up in one of the highest box seats. I just aimed the camera back into the audience and took a 15-second exposure of the house. At about 13 seconds, suddenly the spotlight came up and I think it really ties the image together. http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2011/new_standards_holiday_show/content/IMGP5912_large.html Feel free to comment, if you see something you like (or would do differently). I won't take a lack of comments personally :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
