RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did
From: JC OConnell I really dont see any effect(s). you have horses in shade and a sunny lit background. Whats so special about it? White balance set for sun, the open shade will give a kind of blue cast to the horses. That's what it looks like to me. PS - I'm only 80 some digests behind at this point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Not sure what a cow-orker is... http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html I hate the term co-worker, which is starting to creep into proper English. Every time I see it I want to push the person who said or wrote it into a dark alley and hit them very hard repeatedly with a large stick. It really orks me. I suppose a cow-orker's camera has a shitter release buttom. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
Larry Colen wrote: I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ Terrence Malik golden hour shot. I love that light too. We photographers have it easy, get the shot in the short time that it lasts, repair to the saloon to enjoy the results. Poor film makers have to rush to set up, and probably just get a few minutes of usable film each day. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did I hate the term co-worker, which is starting to creep into proper English. Every time I see it I want to push the person who said or wrote it into a dark alley and hit them very hard repeatedly with a large stick. It really orks me. I suppose a cow-orker's camera has a shitter release buttom. One of my cow-orkers camera's shitter fell right out of her camera. It hit the floor with a mighty cud. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
Larry, early morning and evening we get some very interesting light. I'd keep low sun's light in the background, open sky lit subjects and some repetition. Takes some careful light evaluation or good eval metering plus luck. LF (horses are ok for me, as long as the cook understands spices) Larry Colen escreveu: I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 06:51:24PM +1000, Derby Chang wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ Terrence Malik golden hour shot. I love that light too. We photographers have it easy, get the shot in the short time that it lasts, repair to the saloon to enjoy the results. Poor film makers have to rush to set up, and probably just get a few minutes of usable film each day. I went back yesterday evening. The horses had moved into an open field. The good thing about digital is that I was able to blow off 133 frames. The bad news is that I've got like 133 frames of horses to sort through looking for the keepers. What I should have done is asked for pointers for shooting horses ina field *before* going off for a reshoot. I continued up San Felipe to Metcalf, top down in the Miata. I can see that that little loop of a drive is full of photographic opportunities. This may sound odd to folks who haven;t lived in this area for more than a couple of decades but I didn't realize that there was a little bit of California so close to the office. I stopped to shoot a rusty barn, and it turns out that there was someone working on a car in the yard I had parked in front of. He says that a lot of people stop to shoot it, and the rusty farm equipment just up the road (corner of San Felipe and Metcalf). As a short digression, he had dropped a turbo charged 2.3l ford 4 cyl into his 69 Cougar, replacing the V-8. Later on, I got some shots of a tree in the late dusk. 30 second exposures, a couple of them with flash. A quick look when I got home last night shows that a couple of them have potential, but I'm no Dave Savage. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
Larry Colen wrote: The good thing about digital is that I was able to blow off 133 frames. The bad news is that I've got like 133 frames of horses to sort through looking for the keepers. Uh-huh. That's The Curse of Digital Photography. You go along all cozy, thinking each additional photo doesn't cost you anything ... then you have to cull and post-process the lot of them. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did
Its called open shade which is nothing more than shooting in shade ( no direct light from sun )on a clear sky day so blue sky is the main light. In this case, your background is NOT in open shade, those trees are in late day direct sunlight. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: I like the light, but don't know what I did I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617 116711067/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
On 23/4/09, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/ set-72157617116711067/ If you close your eyes to slits, I swear to God the first horse is talking. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You may have had a cloud there too, it looks like part of the background near the bottom is also not directly lit by sunlight. That would most likely be a cloud splitting the background lighting to partial direct, partial shade. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of JC OConnell Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:37 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did Its called open shade which is nothing more than shooting in shade ( no direct light from sun )on a clear sky day so blue sky is the main light. In this case, your background is NOT in open shade, those trees are in late day direct sunlight. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: I like the light, but don't know what I did I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617 116711067/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 06:36:38PM -0400, JC OConnell wrote: Its called open shade which is nothing more than shooting in shade ( no direct light from sun )on a clear sky day so blue sky is the main light. In this case, your background is NOT in open shade, those trees are in late day direct sunlight. Interesting. I'm sure that I've shot in open shade a lot before, but don't remember ever getting that effect. Maybe I've never shot horses, in open shade, in color before. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:39:30PM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 23/4/09, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ If you close your eyes to slits, I swear to God the first horse is talking. Nope, the chestnut was the chatty one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467845112/in/set-72157617116711067/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did
I really dont see any effect(s). you have horses in shade and a sunny lit background. Whats so special about it? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:01 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 06:36:38PM -0400, JC OConnell wrote: Its called open shade which is nothing more than shooting in shade ( no direct light from sun )on a clear sky day so blue sky is the main light. In this case, your background is NOT in open shade, those trees are in late day direct sunlight. Interesting. I'm sure that I've shot in open shade a lot before, but don't remember ever getting that effect. Maybe I've never shot horses, in open shade, in color before. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
It may be me, but nothing looks in focus other than the back ground. So I quit horse show photography and whats the first paw/peso i see.:-) Dave On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:26 -0700, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ -- I'm not sure what effect you see. I see a very attractive scene with great lighting. It's a pity about the sharpness - the horses are at the centre of interest and if you'd got them sharp it would have been a great image. Not sure what a cow-orker is... Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Not sure what a cow-orker is... Some one who works with dogs.:-) Dave Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: It may be me, but nothing looks in focus other than the back ground. Yeah, that's why I didn't post it as a show off shot. There's just something about the light/color that I really like. Unfortunately, I can't quite place what it is. Apparantly nobody else sees it, to tell me what I did. I've heard it said that the only thing worse than making a mistake, is getting something right and not knowing why. So I quit horse show photography and whats the first paw/peso i see.:-) :) -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I like the light, but don't know what I did
Its a nice shot for sure, but the lighting isnt that hard to see. You have horses and trees in the foregroung in soft light, thats either skylight or shade from a cloud most likely. Then in the far background you have the near background in the shade, most likely a cloud, and the far background in direct sunlight. You can do it again, but mother nature would have to co-operate and you would have to wait for conditions to duplicate, I can tell you right now, it wont be fast or easy to do. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:46 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: It may be me, but nothing looks in focus other than the back ground. Yeah, that's why I didn't post it as a show off shot. There's just something about the light/color that I really like. Unfortunately, I can't quite place what it is. Apparantly nobody else sees it, to tell me what I did. I've heard it said that the only thing worse than making a mistake, is getting something right and not knowing why. So I quit horse show photography and whats the first paw/peso i see.:-) :) -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did
Here's what you did: You shot at 7pm. That's probably less than an hour before sundown at this time of year, so it's magic hour. The sun is coming from the horizon, and it's filtered by a lot of atmosphere. So the color is golden. You caught a bit of light spill from open sky in the shade. That's like shooting with the ball down in an open area. That's the best light you'll ever find. The quantity and quality are partly dependent on atmospheric conditions and the presence or absence of clouds, but it's the kind of light that the best location shooters look for. Paul - Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: It may be me, but nothing looks in focus other than the back ground. Yeah, that's why I didn't post it as a show off shot. There's just something about the light/color that I really like. Unfortunately, I can't quite place what it is. Apparantly nobody else sees it, to tell me what I did. I've heard it said that the only thing worse than making a mistake, is getting something right and not knowing why. So I quit horse show photography and whats the first paw/peso i see.:-) :) -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 01:01:09AM +, pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Here's what you did: You shot at 7pm. That's probably less than an hour before sundown at this time of year, so it's magic hour. The This is what I've heard, and I often shoot a just before sunset, but I've never gotten the magic before. sun is coming from the horizon, and it's filtered by a lot of atmosphere. So the color is golden. You caught a bit of light spill from open sky in the shade. That's like shooting with the ball down in an open area. That's the best light you'll ever find. The quantity and quality are partly dependent on atmospheric conditions and the presence or absence of clouds, but it's the kind of light that the best location shooters look for. Thanks. I noticed the light on the hillside behind the horses, which is a lot of what caught my eye, but when I was shooting, I didn't really notice the light on the horses. I've never really had magic hour work its magic before, so I didn't expect it to be so magic. As was pointed out, I think that the open shade must have done a lot to help. So often around my house, I'm just down in a canyon of trees and don't get much light from the sky at that time of day. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Not sure what a cow-orker is... http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: I like the light, but don't know what I did On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:26 -0700, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I went on a bike ride with a cow-orker yesterday. About 7PM I saw some horses, and some pretty light on the hillside behind them. The processing that I did was pretty basic, pretty much setting the exposure levels and cranking in a little fill in lightroom. I blew the sharpness in this photo, but I love the light. It almost looks like one of those fake HDR photos. Other than just dumb luck, how would I deliberately get this effect? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3467844464/sizes/o/in/set-72157617116711067/ -- I'm not sure what effect you see. I see a very attractive scene with great lighting. It's a pity about the sharpness - the horses are at the centre of interest and if you'd got them sharp it would have been a great image. Not sure what a cow-orker is... Someone who gooses a cow ? Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:58 -0400, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: Not sure what a cow-orker is... http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html Ah, Usenet. The memories.. (and I'm quite convinced that orking cows, if not illegal, is at least, ill advised.) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
