Re: PESO - Concentration

2013-12-29 Thread Attila Boros
Nice moment. I guess he is skating.

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 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso27.html

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Re: PESO - Concentration

2013-12-29 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks. And yes, skating it is.

   -Marco

On Dec 29, 2013, at 3:07 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice moment. I guess he is skating.
 
 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso27.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
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Re: PESO - Concentration

2013-12-29 Thread knarf
Looks like a young Robert Duvall.

Intriguing photo! 

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Concentration

2013-12-29 Thread Marco Alpert
Thanks, Frank!

   -Marco

On Dec 29, 2013, at 7:30 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like a young Robert Duvall.
 
 Intriguing photo! 
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
 Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
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 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Market stall, hell no.  Go for one of those internet funding projects.
Start writing your business plan now Frank!
Little Burkas for Little People...love it.
Save your kids from those pesky photographers.
(You know anyone with a cell phone could be filming them these days!)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:23 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com

 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.

 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.

 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!

 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!

 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.

 With the right marketing this could take off...


 you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
 selling - you could be on your way to your first million.

 B


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RE: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.
 
 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
 
 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
 
 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
 
 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.
 
 With the right marketing this could take off...
 

you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
selling - you could be on your way to your first million. 

B 


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread DagT

Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.
 
 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
 
 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
 
 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
 
 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.
 
 With the right marketing this could take off...
 
 you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
 selling - you could be on your way to your first million. 
 
 B 

Yeah. Fear is a wonderful marketing method. 
Protect your children from the Evil eyes of photographers and bad men

DagT

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread DagT

Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 11:26 skrev DagT li...@thrane.name:

 
 Den 20. feb. 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they
 could dress them in little burkas.
 
 They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys,
 Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.
 
 One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard
 and crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology.
 Cover up your child and indoctrinate all at once!
 
 And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!
 
 Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other
 pesky predators.
 
 With the right marketing this could take off...
 
 you've hit the nail on the head here, Frank. Set up a market stall and get
 selling - you could be on your way to your first million. 
 
 B
 
 Yeah. Fear is a wonderful marketing method. 
 Protect your children from the Evil eyes of photographers and bad men

Or:
The only way to stop a bad man with a Camera is a good burka

DagT

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread Kenneth Waller
it appears your medication has kicked in!

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From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they could 
dress them in little burkas.

They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys, Barbie 
or My Little Pony for the girls.

One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard and 
crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology. Cover up 
your child and indoctrinate all at once!

And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!

Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other pesky 
predators. 

With the right marketing this could take off...

Cheers,
frank



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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

From: Igor Roshchin
 Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
 John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?

 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.


 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over
 what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take
 photographs here because there are children present.

 John,

 There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
 is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.

I don't photograph kids until I have a signed contract and the parents 
pay me a lot of money.

But if I am in a public location, going about my own business, it is 
parents responsibility to keep their kids out of my way. It is *not* 
their right to tell me I can't engage in my lawful occupation because 
they cannot or will not control their spawn.

I've had problems before where I was working, somebody's kid intruded 
into my frame  the parents hassled me about it.

I really don't like that.
.


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread frank theriault
Not on meds.

Just in pain (at least was last night when I posted this).  Much
better today now that ankle is in cast.

;-)

cheers,
frank


On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 it appears your medication has kicked in!

 -Original Message-
From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they could 
dress them in little burkas.

They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys, 
Barbie or My Little Pony for the girls.

One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard and 
crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology. Cover up 
your child and indoctrinate all at once!

And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!

Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other pesky 
predators.

With the right marketing this could take off...

Cheers,
frank



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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

From: Igor Roshchin
 Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
 John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?

 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.


 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over
 what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take
 photographs here because there are children present.

 John,

 There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
 is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.

I don't photograph kids until I have a signed contract and the parents
pay me a lot of money.

But if I am in a public location, going about my own business, it is
parents responsibility to keep their kids out of my way. It is *not*
their right to tell me I can't engage in my lawful occupation because
they cannot or will not control their spawn.

I've had problems before where I was working, somebody's kid intruded
into my frame  the parents hassled me about it.

I really don't like that.
 .


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-20 Thread steve harley

on 2013-02-20 24:09 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they could dress 
them in little burkas.
[...]

With the right marketing this could take off...


you'll make more with a camera mode/smartphone app that applies an insta-burka 
filter when it detects kids in the photo




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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:


I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
child in public places.  What do other people think about that
attitude?


I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
their kids can be posted.



That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over 
what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take 
photographs here because there are children present.


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-19 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:50 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
 
 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?
 
 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.
 
 
 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over what you 
 can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take photographs 
 here because there are children present.
 
 -- 
I've encountered this when taking pictures of Grace at the playground. She 
often befriends someone, and they then play together. Sometimes I take pictures 
and frequently offer to send some free shots to the parent of the other child. 
Most are pleased. Occasionally, I've been ordered to stop taking pictures. 
Sometimes I oblige, particularly if I've already gotten some good ones. Other 
times I've refused, and on a very few occasions, angry parents have grabbed 
their child and left the playground. Those incidents have led me to want to 
accommodate their wishes, so now I generally honor those requests. But I 
explain that I don't have to stop taking pictures in a public park, and that 
would be true even if the subject weren't my own grandchild. Asked why they 
don't want photos, most parents simply don't know. I suspect that for many it's 
merely a matter of being in control. 

Paul


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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-19 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:50 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
 
 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?
 
 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.
 
 
 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over what you 
 can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take photographs 
 here because there are children present.

Good point, I was thinking more along the lines of parents should have as much 
say over their children's photos being taken as their own.

I.e. at a family event, if they don't want pictures of the kids posted online, 
that's fine. If you're taking photos in the park, and your kids are playing 
there, tough tatas.

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-19 Thread Igor Roshchin

Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
  On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
 
  I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
  My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
  child in public places.  What do other people think about that
  attitude?
 
  I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
  their kids can be posted.
 
 
 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over 
 what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take 
 photographs here because there are children present.

John,

There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.

Even though you don't have you own kids, I wouldn't expect you to defend
kid's 1st amendment rights when the parents are telling the kid which
things he/she is not supposed to say. Or, defend that kids have the
right to own guns.
In a somewhat similar way, there are things that apply to how others
should behave with respect to the kid.
Despite the freedom of speach etc, I (and I assume all reasonable
parents) wouldn't want my kid to hear or see certain things before 
certain age. Which things and until what age, - that should be left 
to the parents (to decide and [o-oh!] to deal with).

I don't think it is a problem to photograph unidentified people on the
street, including kids. But if you were to post photos of Alice Smith,
DOB, January 1, 2010, living at 123 Main Street without permission 
of her parents, that is not ethical.
While there might be no legal recourse, it is just not right.

As a side note: even legal system has certain mechanisms for protection
of the minors and their privacy.

While there are situations where it may make sense to defend you rights,
one doesn't have to be a stickler:
A good will and ethical behavior from us, photographers, is important,
and can help to avoid/minimize paranoia from the other side.
And that's what this thread and original question from  Aahz is about.


Igor



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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Igor Roshchin

Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
John Sessoms wrote:


From: Larry Colen

On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:


I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
child in public places.  What do other people think about that
attitude?


I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
their kids can be posted.



That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over
what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take
photographs here because there are children present.


John,

There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.


I don't photograph kids until I have a signed contract and the parents 
pay me a lot of money.


But if I am in a public location, going about my own business, it is 
parents responsibility to keep their kids out of my way. It is *not* 
their right to tell me I can't engage in my lawful occupation because 
they cannot or will not control their spawn.


I've had problems before where I was working, somebody's kid intruded 
into my frame  the parents hassled me about it.


I really don't like that.

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-19 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
If parents don't want their kids photographed in public places they could dress 
them in little burkas.

They could make Western burkas: like Spiderman or Star Wars for boys, Barbie 
or My Little Pony for the girls.

One could do a Christian motif: cover it in crucifixes or maybe a beard and 
crown of thorns. Different religions could use their own symbology. Cover up 
your child and indoctrinate all at once!

And think of the sports team licensing opportunities here!

Your kid will look cool ~and~ be protected from photographers and other pesky 
predators. 

With the right marketing this could take off...

Cheers,
frank



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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Sent: February 19, 2013 2/19/13
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

From: Igor Roshchin
 Tue Feb 19 08:50:32 EST 2013
 John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Larry Colen
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.
 My sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir
 child in public places.  What do other people think about that
 attitude?

 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of
 their kids can be posted.


 That sounds an awful lot like giving parents an absolute veto over
 what you can photograph. It's not very far from there to You can't take
 photographs here because there are children present.

 John,

 There are constitunational (or otherwise legal) right, and there is what
 is right (and/or ethical) with a kid.

I don't photograph kids until I have a signed contract and the parents 
pay me a lot of money.

But if I am in a public location, going about my own business, it is 
parents responsibility to keep their kids out of my way. It is *not* 
their right to tell me I can't engage in my lawful occupation because 
they cannot or will not control their spawn.

I've had problems before where I was working, somebody's kid intruded 
into my frame  the parents hassled me about it.

I really don't like that.

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread Jack Davis
I can imagine what he's thinking;  grownups are weird!
Certainly one for the album.

Jack

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My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one 
point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam Style!  
A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture his 
completely-enthralled expression.  

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.

-Charles

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Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:

 My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.
 At one point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen
 Gangnam Style!  A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

 As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to
 capture his completely-enthralled expression.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

Nice!

I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?
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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:43 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 Nice!
 
 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
 sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
 public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?

I believe that kind of decision is entirely up to the parent.  I'd respect my 
sibling's wishes if that's how s/he feels about it.

My kids' photos have been posted online all over the place, and my daughter 
posts photos of her son quite frequently as well - but it's definitely 
something that not all parents are comfortable with.

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
ISO 3200?  Wow indeed!
Great expression and image.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one 
 point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam 
 Style!  A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

 As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture his 
 completely-enthralled expression.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

 It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.

  -Charles

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:43 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
 sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
 public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?
 
 I believe that kind of decision is entirely up to the parent.  I'd
 respect my sibling's wishes if that's how s/he feels about it.

You are of course completely correct about that...

 My kids' photos have been posted online all over the place, and my
 daughter posts photos of her son quite frequently as well - but it's
 definitely something that not all parents are comfortable with.

...but what I was trying to get more at was what criteria did you and
your daughter use to decide that you were comfortable with public
pictures?  Other people who aren't comfortable, what criteria did you
use?  Are the people on this list different from the general population
because we're more photo-focused?
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RE: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Aahz Maruch

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:


My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.
At one point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen
Gangnam Style!  A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to
capture his completely-enthralled expression.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg


Nice!

I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?


From the perspective of someone who has no children of his own, I think 
parents have to decide for themselves what's best for their own kids.



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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
+/- on posting kids' photos.
  Negative concerns with some paranoia:
The kid's photos could be hijacked.
Posting them anywhere is posting them EVERYWHERE.
(Threats of kiddie porn...)  PDML discussions  postings are public.
Your little Suzzie is so cute somebody is gonna want to kidnap her.
(Somebody who hates you knows what/where to find your kids.)
Somebody is gonna use the child's image in their product advertising.
  Positive benefits from posting:
Grandma  Grampa get to see cute pictures of little Suzzie.
Aunts  Uncles, Cousins, Siblings can all share your child's life.
You can brag on how cute  good your kids are on Facebook.
You have some real photos of the kids growing up, aides to memory.
Your posted photos will get lost with the thousands of others on the web.
(Little Suzzie really isn't THAT CUTE, after all.)
If you work at it, your photos will get better.

On a side note, new carpet forced me to clean out my bedroom closet. :-(
A yellow box of Kodachrome slides fell on the floor from somewhere.
8/84 was printed in marker on the box.
I slid it open to magic inside.
Our boys were 2 and 4 and we were in Disneyworld.
My wife was 6 months pregnant with our daughter.
It brought back wonderful memories of our family.
And all taken on a SuperProgram with a 50mm lens.
Take lots of pictures.

regards,  Bob S.


On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:43 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
 sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
 public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?

 I believe that kind of decision is entirely up to the parent.  I'd
 respect my sibling's wishes if that's how s/he feels about it.

 You are of course completely correct about that...

 My kids' photos have been posted online all over the place, and my
 daughter posts photos of her son quite frequently as well - but it's
 definitely something that not all parents are comfortable with.

 ...but what I was trying to get more at was what criteria did you and
 your daughter use to decide that you were comfortable with public
 pictures?  Other people who aren't comfortable, what criteria did you
 use?  Are the people on this list different from the general population
 because we're more photo-focused?
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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Igor Roshchin

Charles: that's a nice picture!
Those spoiling grandparents...


Aahz, 
I can tell you my perspective as a parent (and a photographer)

When I was taking photos of my nieces, nephews, and grand-nieces,
as well as my friends' kids, I usually was not posting them publically
unless they were explicitly OK with that.

I also was not sure how to deal with that with my own kid.
There are a bunch of superstitions, paranoia, etc, but also some
arguments for why people do not post photos.

My wife and I decided that it is OK to post photos without attached
identifying information (even though that can be researched if one is
really determined). And also we are not posting some more private photos
that our kid may find embarassing later on.
(Well, you can never tell which ones for sure, - I am sure there will
be some at some age, but at this point it's our call.)

Being a scientist, I was looking for the argumented reasons why one
should not post any photos. It was hard to find those, - usually it's
all based on emotions. I cannot recall more than the following two:

1. A bad person would like the kid's photo and would try to find the kid
and kidnap. Well, what about people who see the kid on the street, in
the supermarket, at public events? Yes, internet would give higher
exposure, but at the same time, internet is full of kids photos, so I am
not sure if the likelyhood of your kid being targeted is really that
much increased.
You can keep your kid in a burqa (regardless of the gender) everywhere 
in public.

2. A bad person who knows the name of your kid in combination where you
leave (this argument was given in relation to the information posted on
Facebook and alike), would come by your house (school, ... ,) call your 
kid by name, and would tell that the parents send him/her e.g. 
to bring the kid to them (parents). Calling the kid by name would be
a token of some trustability.
Yes, that can happen. 
How likely is that? I don't know...
I am still thinking about all of that.

The same radio program which suggested #2 above, was talking why 
other personal information should not be exposed on FB. While 
I agree that one shouldn't make things easier for a perpetrator 
by posting e.g your DOB, or exact dates when your entire family is 
on vacation, but some of the arguments they
were using were weird. E.g. they were saying XX% of internet users
are sickos. So, if you have 100 ``friends'' on FB, XX of them are
sickos who will abuse your personal information. The journalist
clearly didn't know the basics of statistics.
(E.g. if you leave, say, in Scandinavia, you cannot choose 5 kids and
claim that one of them is a Chineese.)


Igor




Mon Feb 18 11:17:55 EST 2013
Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:43 , Aahz Maruch aahz at pobox.com wrote:
 
 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
 sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
 public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?
 
 I believe that kind of decision is entirely up to the parent.  I'd
 respect my sibling's wishes if that's how s/he feels about it.

You are of course completely correct about that...

 My kids' photos have been posted online all over the place, and my
 daughter posts photos of her son quite frequently as well - but it's
 definitely something that not all parents are comfortable with.

...but what I was trying to get more at was what criteria did you and
your daughter use to decide that you were comfortable with public
pictures?  Other people who aren't comfortable, what criteria did you
use?  Are the people on this list different from the general population
because we're more photo-focused?

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Feb 18, 2013, at 10:17 , Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 ...but what I was trying to get more at was what criteria did you and
 your daughter use to decide that you were comfortable with public
 pictures?  Other people who aren't comfortable, what criteria did you
 use?  Are the people on this list different from the general population
 because we're more photo-focused?

I don't know that we've actively discussed it or thought about it.. our family 
has just always been tech-oriented enough to be comfortable with the idea, and 
we've also never had anything really bad happen to us online in terms of 
stalking or whatever, so the posting of cute kid images has never been a 
concern.

Whether that's out of naiveté or not, I can't say.

 -Charles

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RE: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Terrific shot!  You caught him at the perfect moment of rapt concentration.

Love it!

Cheers,
frank

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My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one 
point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam Style!  
A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture his 
completely-enthralled expression.  

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.

 -Charles

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
He certainly is intent.  Very nice portrait.
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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one 
 point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam 
 Style!  A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

 As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture his 
 completely-enthralled expression.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

 It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice light and  a good moment. Well done.

Paul
On Feb 18, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 He certainly is intent.  Very nice portrait.
 Dan Matyola
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 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one 
 point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam 
 Style!  A gap in the kid's cultural education!).
 
 As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture 
 his completely-enthralled expression.
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg
 
 It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.
 
 -Charles
 
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Re: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread Bruce Walker
That's a great candid portrait, Charles. Very nice!

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one 
 point we binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam 
 Style!  A gap in the kid's cultural education!).

 As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture his 
 completely-enthralled expression.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

 It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2013-02-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele

lovely shot, charles

ann

On 2/18/2013 09:53, Jack Davis wrote:

I can imagine what he's thinking;  grownups are weird!
Certainly one for the album.

Jack

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My wife and I had the grandson over for the afternoon on Saturday.  At one point we 
binged on a bunch of YouTube videos (he'd never seen Gangnam Style!  A gap in 
the kid's cultural education!).

As he was watching, I pulled the K5 (with 35mm f/2.4 lens) out to capture his 
completely-enthralled expression.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__4837.jpg

It was only later that I was startled to see that this is at ISO 3200.  WOW.

-Charles

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
 
 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
 sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
 public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?

I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of their 
kids can be posted. However, your sibling is looking for a solution to a 
problem that does not exist.  Your sibling might as well worry about the kid 
being hit by a meteor. I am willing to bet that more children, as of this week, 
have been injured by meteors this year than have been abducted by strangers 
shopping around from pictures during the entire history of the internet.  I 
don't actually know of any cases of someone finding a picture of a child on the 
web, tracking down the child and abducting them.

There have been a few instances of people meeting children online and tricking 
them into doing something that brings them to harm, but I suspect that this 
number is fewer than the number of people arrested by police posing as children 
online looking for child predators.

In short, my thoughts are that your sibling is foolish for worrying about this 
and should be worrying instead about how their children are growing up so 
overprotected that they never learn how to take care of themselves.

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Re: Kid pictures (was Re: PESO: Concentration)

2013-02-18 Thread Tim Bray
Well, my case may be a little different because I am a very public
person, but I am adamant that my children not be identified in public
by name/photo until they’re a little older (they’re now 6 and 13).
Yeah, there’s the safety factor, but that one doesn’t really keep me
awake at night, although it’s a non-zero worry.

But simpler than that: I think that exercising some control over how
you’re presented to the world on the Net is a huge advantage in this
life, and I want that advantage for my children.  So I’m going to keep
them out of the public eye until they’re old enough to have a
reasonable chance to make reasonable choices. That’s all.  -T

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Feb 18, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

 I'm going to hijack your post in a slightly different direction.  My
 sibling has been rather adamant about not posting photos of zir child in
 public places.  What do other people think about that attitude?

 I think that parents should have the right to say whether pictures of their 
 kids can be posted. However, your sibling is looking for a solution to a 
 problem that does not exist.  Your sibling might as well worry about the kid 
 being hit by a meteor. I am willing to bet that more children, as of this 
 week, have been injured by meteors this year than have been abducted by 
 strangers shopping around from pictures during the entire history of the 
 internet.  I don't actually know of any cases of someone finding a picture of 
 a child on the web, tracking down the child and abducting them.

 There have been a few instances of people meeting children online and 
 tricking them into doing something that brings them to harm, but I suspect 
 that this number is fewer than the number of people arrested by police posing 
 as children online looking for child predators.

 In short, my thoughts are that your sibling is foolish for worrying about 
 this and should be worrying instead about how their children are growing up 
 so overprotected that they never learn how to take care of themselves.

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-20 Thread Rick Womer
Very impressive for ISO 5000 =and= a very impressive shot.  The composition is 
great, the colors and textures are intriguing, and you nailed the focus.

Rick

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--- On Thu, 2/18/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

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 Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 11:14 AM
 Another shot from the pool hall. K7
 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th, ISO 5000
 
 I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of
 the K7. I find it at least a stop better than my K20D.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg
 
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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
I haven't said so, but that's a marvelous shot.
It's an interesting portrait, and like Rick says - spot on focus.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Very impressive for ISO 5000 =and= a very impressive shot.  The composition 
 is great, the colors and textures are intriguing, and you nailed the focus.

 Rick

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 From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
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 Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 11:14 AM
 Another shot from the pool hall. K7
 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th, ISO 5000

 I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of
 the K7. I find it at least a stop better than my K20D.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg

 Paul

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-20 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks to Rick, Bob, and all others who commented or had a look.
Paul
On Feb 20, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Paul,
 I haven't said so, but that's a marvelous shot.
 It's an interesting portrait, and like Rick says - spot on focus.
 Regards, Bob S.
 
 On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Very impressive for ISO 5000 =and= a very impressive shot.  The composition 
 is great, the colors and textures are intriguing, and you nailed the focus.
 
 Rick
 
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
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 From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: PESO: Concentration
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 Another shot from the pool hall. K7
 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th, ISO 5000
 
 I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of
 the K7. I find it at least a stop better than my K20D.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg
 
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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-18 Thread Jack Davis
He looks like a pool hall denizen..no insult intended. Well seen and a deft 
angle chosen.
Paul, would you please stop knocking my K20..OKAY? ;))

Jack

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 Another shot from the pool hall. K7
 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th, ISO 5000
 
 I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of
 the K7. I find it at least a stop better than my K20D.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg
 
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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-18 Thread Larry Colen


On Feb 18, 2010, at 8:14 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

Another shot from the pool hall. K7 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th,  
ISO 5000


I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of the K7. I  
find it at least a stop better than my K20D.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg


Very impressive for ISO 5000.

And  a nice shot too.



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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 He looks like a pool hall denizen..no insult intended. Well seen and a deft 
 angle chosen.
 Paul, would you please stop knocking my K20..OKAY? ;))

At least we've stopped knocking the K10D, or, have, we.:-)

Great shot Paul.

Dave

 Jack

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 Another shot from the pool hall. K7
 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th, ISO 5000

 I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of
 the K7. I find it at least a stop better than my K20D.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2010-02-18 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:14 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Another shot from the pool hall. K7 and the DA* 16-50, f3.5, 1/30th, ISO
 5000

 I'm more than satisfied with the low light performance of the K7. I find it
 at least a stop better than my K20D.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10702411size=lg

You caught a fine moment there.  The title certainly fits the photo!

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Re: PESO - Concentration

2009-12-03 Thread Rick Womer
Yeah, I kinda wish the menu weren't there, too.

But as you know better than anyone, Frank, you gotta shoot 'em as you find 'em!

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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  At a Basel cafe:
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10204537size=lg
 
  (K10D, DA 50-200)
 
 
 Kripes, kids are kids everywhere, eh?
 
 ;-)
 
 Nice shot, but I wish that darned brown thing (is it a menu
 of some
 sort?) wasn't on the tabletop between us and the two kids
 on the
 right.
 
 Still, the photo gets the point across.  Well done.
 
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Re: PESO - Concentration

2009-12-02 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 At a Basel cafe:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10204537size=lg

 (K10D, DA 50-200)


Kripes, kids are kids everywhere, eh?

;-)

Nice shot, but I wish that darned brown thing (is it a menu of some
sort?) wasn't on the tabletop between us and the two kids on the
right.

Still, the photo gets the point across.  Well done.

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-29 Thread David Savage
On Nov 27, 2007 10:06 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I like this one Dave.

 Even with a tight crop, you know what is going on. Looks pretty crisp
 for what is mostlikely a panned shot.

Thanks Dave.

That 77 is a pretty crisp lens. I know that both her  her dad (who
she was roping with) really liked this one.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-29 Thread David Savage
On Nov 28, 2007 2:11 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Nov 27, 2007 8:02 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  G'day All,
 
  Took this one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
  nothing more than a family snap, but the expression makes it I reckon.
  (~160kb)
 
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg
 

 Terrific shot!

Thank you sir.

 Family snap my ass!!

Sorry Frank, you ain't family. And showing off your arse isn't going
to change that

:-D

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-29 Thread David Savage
On Nov 28, 2007 2:36 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 11/27/2007 5:04:42 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg
 =
 It has a lot of  power.

Thanks Marnie.

It was a pretty cool experience for this Aussie city boy.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-29 Thread David Savage
Thanks Paul.

It seems I may have underestimated this one a bit.

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 27, 2007 11:30 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Better by far than a family snap. Both the expression and the composition are 
 excellent.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg
 
  K10D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-29 Thread David Savage
On Nov 29, 2007 6:49 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave,
 I love how the horses mane and woman's hair are both flowing.
 A shot displaying power, energy, and concentration by the rider.
 Nice work!

I like the hair/mane relationships also.

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,

Dave


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  In a message dated 11/27/2007 5:04:42 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
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  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-29 Thread David Savage
Thanks Godders.

Cheers,

Dave

On Nov 27, 2007 10:44 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very nice! Great sense of motion, a solid tight view that tells the
 whole story.

 Godfrey

 On Nov 27, 2007, at 5:02 AM, David Savage wrote:
  http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg
  K10D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
I love how the horses mane and woman's hair are both flowing.
A shot displaying power, energy, and concentration by the rider.
Nice work!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Nov 27, 2007 11:36 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 11/27/2007 5:04:42 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
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 G'day All,

 Took this  one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
 nothing more than a  family snap, but the expression makes it I  reckon.
 (~160kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg

 K10D,  FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400

 As always any  all comments  welcome.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-27 Thread David J Brooks
I like this one Dave.

Even with a tight crop, you know what is going on. Looks pretty crisp
for what is mostlikely a panned shot.

Dave

On Nov 27, 2007 8:02 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
 nothing more than a family snap, but the expression makes it I reckon.
 (~160kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg

 K10D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400

 As always any  all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Very nice! Great sense of motion, a solid tight view that tells the  
whole story.

Godfrey

On Nov 27, 2007, at 5:02 AM, David Savage wrote:

 Took this one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
 nothing more than a family snap, but the expression makes it I reckon.
 (~160kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg

 K10D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400


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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-27 Thread pnstenquist
Better by far than a family snap. Both the expression and the composition are 
excellent.
Paul
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From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 G'day All,
 
 Took this one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
 nothing more than a family snap, but the expression makes it I reckon.
 (~160kb)
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg
 
 K10D, FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400
 
 As always any  all comments welcome.
 
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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-27 Thread frank theriault
On Nov 27, 2007 8:02 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
 nothing more than a family snap, but the expression makes it I reckon.
 (~160kb)

 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg


Terrific shot!  Family snap my ass!!

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Re: PESO: Concentration

2007-11-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/27/2007 5:04:42 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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G'day All,

Took this  one while on my holiday earlier this year. It's really
nothing more than a  family snap, but the expression makes it I  reckon.
(~160kb)

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP5212.jpg

K10D,  FA 77mm f1.8, 1/3200 @ f4, ISO 400

As always any  all comments  welcome.

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