RE: Renewing editing software

2021-03-14 Thread jcoyle
I've been using CC since it came out, and have absolutely no issues with 
performance.  I have 8G of RAM on a Windows 10
pro 640 bit system and the inbuilt Intel UHD graphics adapter.  I might get an 
improvement in redraw performance with a
gaming card, but to me it is not worth the expense (or the fact that I am using 
an HP Prodesk mini PC probably makes it
impossible!)
I've never liked Lightroom, so I'll avoid any further comment on that software. 
 I manage my images through my file
structure, which works for me.
I would say that I normally open Bridge first, to find the images I want to 
work with, and this integrates well with PS.
I like too the fact that you can effectively include some of the facilities 
from the RAW image processing module into
PS, so you can apply some pretty neat adjustments even to original jpegs.


John in Brisbane



-Original Message-
From: Toine  
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2021 3:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Renewing editing software

I'm on CC for a while. My main use is Lightroom Classic not Lightroom.
You might enjoy the sync functions of Lightroom Classic to Lightroom,
lightroom Web and the Apps. If you do, you probably will also want to
sync smart collections. That needs some tweaking.
Prepare yourself to start searching for a cheap gamers GPU card which
speeds up lightroom (2x 3x depends on what you do). And an SSD for the
catalog and previews.

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 at 17:56, Bill  wrote:
>
> I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing
> software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been
> having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.
>
> Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
> So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's
> nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years
> rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to
> make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.
>
> Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old
> standalone version are appreciated.
>
> If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like
> that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on
> the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that
> are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..
>
> Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the
> track I am on.
>
> thanks
>
> bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-14 Thread Nolan Hinshaw
On Mar 13, 2021, at 09:24, Bill  wrote:


> Thanks!! My graphics gard has 6gb of ram on board, so I think I'm OK there. I 
> have a 112 or so GD SSD that I use for PS swap, I will probably invest in 
> another one to migrate the catalogs onto. Right now they are on a relatively 
> dedicated spin drive.

SanDisk make a 1TB portable, pocket-sized USB-3 SSD for about $100, two of 
which I have hard at work. They seem to transfer about as rapidly as my 
rotating rust.
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Alan C
$10 is ZAR160! Quite noticeable to me. I'll stick to Elements 13 on my 
geriatric i3 Acer Travelmate.


Alan C

On 13-Mar-21 08:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

CC isn’t a lot more expensive than occasional upgrades of The creative suite 
used to be. I think it’s about $10 a month. I have it on autopay and don’t 
really notice.

Paul


On Mar 13, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

I’m have the same issue Bill and am not thrilled at having to pay a yearly fee.


-Original Message-

From: Bill 
Sent: Mar 13, 2021 11:56 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Renewing editing software

I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing
software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been
having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.
  
Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.

So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's
nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years
rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to
make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.

Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old
standalone version are appreciated.

If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like
that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on
the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that
are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..

Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the
track I am on.

thanks

bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Ken Waller
I’m have the same issue Bill and am not thrilled at having to pay a yearly fee.


-Original Message-
>From: Bill 
>Sent: Mar 13, 2021 11:56 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Renewing editing software
>
>I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing 
>software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been 
>having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.
>
>Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
>So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's 
>nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years 
>rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to 
>make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.
>
>Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old 
>standalone version are appreciated.
>
>If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like 
>that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on 
>the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that 
>are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..
>
>Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the 
>track I am on.
>
>thanks
>
>bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I upgraded to the cloud based Adobe photo suite about a year ago. I use 
photoshop and bridge for the most part, and they’re quite fast on my five year 
old iMac. But the Mac was top of the line when new so it has a 4 gigahertz i7 
four-core processor and a good Radeon graphics card, I use an SSD as a scratch 
disc, store current files on an SSD and manage files with bridge. I’m a happy 
camper.

Paul

> On Mar 13, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 3/13/2021 11:16 AM, Toine wrote:
>> I'm on CC for a while. My main use is Lightroom Classic not Lightroom.
>> You might enjoy the sync functions of Lightroom Classic to Lightroom,
>> lightroom Web and the Apps. If you do, you probably will also want to
>> sync smart collections. That needs some tweaking.
>> Prepare yourself to start searching for a cheap gamers GPU card which
>> speeds up lightroom (2x 3x depends on what you do). And an SSD for the
>> catalog and previews.
> 
> Thanks!! My graphics gard has 6gb of ram on board, so I think I'm OK there. I 
> have a 112 or so GD SSD that I use for PS swap, I will probably invest in 
> another one to migrate the catalogs onto. Right now they are on a relatively 
> dedicated spin drive.
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>>> On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 at 17:56, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing
>>> software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been
>>> having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
>>> So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's
>>> nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years
>>> rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to
>>> make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.
>>> 
>>> Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old
>>> standalone version are appreciated.
>>> 
>>> If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like
>>> that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on
>>> the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that
>>> are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..
>>> 
>>> Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the
>>> track I am on.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LR Classic works fine, same as LR 6.14. Virtually no differences. 

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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Bill

On 3/13/2021 12:11 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

I’m have the same issue Bill and am not thrilled at having to pay a yearly fee.


I'm in the it is what it is camp at this point. I figure with the 
upgrade path I was using, it's going to cost me about the same to pay 
rent as it was to buy.


bill





-Original Message-

From: Bill 
Sent: Mar 13, 2021 11:56 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Renewing editing software

I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing
software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been
having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's
nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years
rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to
make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.

Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old
standalone version are appreciated.

If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like
that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on
the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that
are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..

Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the
track I am on.

thanks

bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Bill
I did my usual cursory research and have ordered a Seagate Firecuda 1TB 
drive. This thing plugs directly into the motherboard. I decided to get 
the PCI 3 version, since that is what my MB supports. The PCI 4 wasn't 
that much more, but I'm not planning on swapping out my computer any 
time soon, so I wouldn't be taking advantage of the extra speed, and 
with my luck, by the time I do swap computers, they will be up to PCI 6 
or some such.


bill

On 3/13/2021 11:59 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I upgraded to the cloud based Adobe photo suite about a year ago. I use 
photoshop and bridge for the most part, and they’re quite fast on my five year 
old iMac. But the Mac was top of the line when new so it has a 4 gigahertz i7 
four-core processor and a good Radeon graphics card, I use an SSD as a scratch 
disc, store current files on an SSD and manage files with bridge. I’m a happy 
camper.

Paul


On Mar 13, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 3/13/2021 11:16 AM, Toine wrote:

I'm on CC for a while. My main use is Lightroom Classic not Lightroom.
You might enjoy the sync functions of Lightroom Classic to Lightroom,
lightroom Web and the Apps. If you do, you probably will also want to
sync smart collections. That needs some tweaking.
Prepare yourself to start searching for a cheap gamers GPU card which
speeds up lightroom (2x 3x depends on what you do). And an SSD for the
catalog and previews.


Thanks!! My graphics gard has 6gb of ram on board, so I think I'm OK there. I 
have a 112 or so GD SSD that I use for PS swap, I will probably invest in 
another one to migrate the catalogs onto. Right now they are on a relatively 
dedicated spin drive.

bill


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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
CC isn’t a lot more expensive than occasional upgrades of The creative suite 
used to be. I think it’s about $10 a month. I have it on autopay and don’t 
really notice.

Paul

> On Mar 13, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> I’m have the same issue Bill and am not thrilled at having to pay a yearly 
> fee.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill 
>> Sent: Mar 13, 2021 11:56 AM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Renewing editing software
>> 
>> I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing 
>> software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been 
>> having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.
>> 
>> Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
>> So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's 
>> nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years 
>> rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to 
>> make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.
>> 
>> Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old 
>> standalone version are appreciated.
>> 
>> If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like 
>> that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on 
>> the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that 
>> are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..
>> 
>> Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the 
>> track I am on.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Bill

On 3/13/2021 11:16 AM, Toine wrote:

I'm on CC for a while. My main use is Lightroom Classic not Lightroom.
You might enjoy the sync functions of Lightroom Classic to Lightroom,
lightroom Web and the Apps. If you do, you probably will also want to
sync smart collections. That needs some tweaking.
Prepare yourself to start searching for a cheap gamers GPU card which
speeds up lightroom (2x 3x depends on what you do). And an SSD for the
catalog and previews.


Thanks!! My graphics gard has 6gb of ram on board, so I think I'm OK 
there. I have a 112 or so GD SSD that I use for PS swap, I will probably 
invest in another one to migrate the catalogs onto. Right now they are 
on a relatively dedicated spin drive.


bill




On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 at 17:56, Bill  wrote:


I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing
software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been
having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's
nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years
rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to
make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.

Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old
standalone version are appreciated.

If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like
that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on
the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that
are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..

Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the
track I am on.

thanks

bill
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Re: Renewing editing software

2021-03-13 Thread Toine
I'm on CC for a while. My main use is Lightroom Classic not Lightroom.
You might enjoy the sync functions of Lightroom Classic to Lightroom,
lightroom Web and the Apps. If you do, you probably will also want to
sync smart collections. That needs some tweaking.
Prepare yourself to start searching for a cheap gamers GPU card which
speeds up lightroom (2x 3x depends on what you do). And an SSD for the
catalog and previews.

On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 at 17:56, Bill  wrote:
>
> I decided after 8 years, it was probably time to upgrade my editing
> software. CS6 has gotten decidedly long on the tooth, and I have been
> having various issues with my of Lightroom for some time.
>
> Anyway, I bit the bullet and decided to rent my imaging software from Adobe.
> So far, so good. Everything seems to run quite a bit faster, and it's
> nice that it recognizes lenses that I have bought in the past few years
> rather than just giving them a generic focal length. I was never able to
> make the various hacks that were supposed to update the lens catalog work.
>
> Any hints from people who have been using the CC versions over the old
> standalone version are appreciated.
>
> If all you have to say is Adobe sucks, or various snippy comments like
> that, please just STFU, I'm not interested in what you have to say on
> the subject. I'm also not entertaining the various other options that
> are out there, so I don't need suggestions like try Darktable..
>
> Lets stay constructive within the parameter that I am staying on the
> track I am on.
>
> thanks
>
> bill
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