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On 19 June 2013 00:41, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Care to join me? Haven't booked the walk, yet. It will probably be from September 13th through the 21st. I'd love to join you for at least part of the walk. Perhaps a weekend - I can't get the whole week off! This is the company. http://www.contours.co.uk/index.php This is the walk http://www.contours.co.uk/walking-holidays/peddars-way-norfolk-coast.php It's actually a combination of two that can be done separately. Dunno if they'd accommodate someone for a portion of one of the shorter segments. I haven't booked, yet. Will probably do so tomorrow. Thoughts at this point are of doing it with 8 nights between the 13th and the 21st. Would actually start walking on the 14th, a Saturday. Eric - we used Contours for our Cotswold Way walk a couple of years ago. A good experience. Can I come too? (Probably just for a day though so wouldn't need accommodation) Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18/6/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? All the time! But mercifully they've died down by the time they get here. Low pressure systems with rain. Plenty of wind from people like Bob. But a genuine hurricane smacked London in 1987. I was at a Hyde Park Hotel and watched two hundred year old trees get ripped out of the ground. Roofs came off, cars were overturned and most streets were blocked. A mess. Nah, just some strong winds ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqs1YXfdtGE -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18/6/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Especially now that I'm a vegetarian. Where e'er you be, let the wind blow free! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 19, 2013, at 2:22 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Can I come too? (Probably just for a day though so wouldn't need accommodation) Absolutely. Glad to have company, especially someone from the country I'm visiting. I'll let you know when I've booked, when I'll be starting, etc. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Steve Cottrell On 18/6/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? All the time! But mercifully they've died down by the time they get here. Low pressure systems with rain. Plenty of wind from people like Bob. But a genuine hurricane smacked London in 1987. I was at a Hyde Park Hotel and watched two hundred year old trees get ripped out of the ground. Roofs came off, cars were overturned and most streets were blocked. A mess. Nah, just some strong winds ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqs1YXfdtGE Blame it on the Canadians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3m7ckGhnsc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: iPhones/iPod Touch (and Android phones) can also be fit with a weather resistant case (Otterbox, LifeProof, etc.), though even a minimal case (Incipio NGP) has worked beautifully for me for the 29 months i've had my iPhone 4; i shoot with it in all kinds of weather and have gotten it a bit wet now and then, and damp quite often; i know of an iPhone in a similar case that has gotten more wet more times than mine and is still fine these devices have the added benefits of doing all sorts of other things that benefit a traveler Thanks, Steve. Yes, that's a consideration for me. The iPhone 4 is still available in an 8Gb version. Likewise the 4S which has the 8 Mp camera. The iPod Touch is a thought, but I may want to have phone service. Dunno. Some more questions: Any thoughts about the 5 Mp vs. 8 Mp camera? If the phone is going to be used as a camera, how much memory is minimal? Last, any experience with the Google Nexus 4 phone? It's cheap--half the price of an iPhone 5---comes unlocked, and I've read/heard rave reviews except for the camera, which more than one review has panned. I imagine a phone with a camera could be the only device I would need to take. If I took my ist* DS I need something to off-load images to and to get selections of them up on the web. That would probably have to be my notebook. I'm leery of taking it, though it's compact and light weight. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've been otherwise involved the last few days without much time to do more than an occasional glance at the PDML. But I noticed your query Eric, and also noticed that the discussion seemed to get sidetracked from cameras to phones. I have the iPhone 5. I've used the built-in camera for more than a few beer-bottle photos to share on Facebook from obscure locales, and it works fine. But I would never consider traveling with the iPhone as my only camera. My strong recommendation would be the Pentax WG-3. I have the WG-2, haven't used it that much, but have been quite satisfied with the results. It is rugged, waterproof, and makes an ideal backpacking camera. http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-WG-3-black-Waterproof-Digital/dp/B00B728M5U/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8m=A7CWZEVWDFA0Y stan On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: iPhones/iPod Touch (and Android phones) can also be fit with a weather resistant case (Otterbox, LifeProof, etc.), though even a minimal case (Incipio NGP) has worked beautifully for me for the 29 months i've had my iPhone 4; i shoot with it in all kinds of weather and have gotten it a bit wet now and then, and damp quite often; i know of an iPhone in a similar case that has gotten more wet more times than mine and is still fine these devices have the added benefits of doing all sorts of other things that benefit a traveler Thanks, Steve. Yes, that's a consideration for me. The iPhone 4 is still available in an 8Gb version. Likewise the 4S which has the 8 Mp camera. The iPod Touch is a thought, but I may want to have phone service. Dunno. Some more questions: Any thoughts about the 5 Mp vs. 8 Mp camera? If the phone is going to be used as a camera, how much memory is minimal? Last, any experience with the Google Nexus 4 phone? It's cheap--half the price of an iPhone 5---comes unlocked, and I've read/heard rave reviews except for the camera, which more than one review has panned. I imagine a phone with a camera could be the only device I would need to take. If I took my ist* DS I need something to off-load images to and to get selections of them up on the web. That would probably have to be my notebook. I'm leery of taking it, though it's compact and light weight. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would concur with Stan's recommendation. It's waterproof to 40 ft, shockproof to 5 ft and crushproof up to a couple hundred pounds. I have a WG-2 that I mostly use for work doing inspections of wells and septic systems. I figure that if I drop it in someone's septic tank, I can fish it out, hose it off and get on with what I was doing. You can see a review and short video here... http://tinyurl.com/mmfp3y8 -p On 6/18/2013 9:46 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: I've been otherwise involved the last few days without much time to do more than an occasional glance at the PDML. But I noticed your query Eric, and also noticed that the discussion seemed to get sidetracked from cameras to phones. I have the iPhone 5. I've used the built-in camera for more than a few beer-bottle photos to share on Facebook from obscure locales, and it works fine. But I would never consider traveling with the iPhone as my only camera. My strong recommendation would be the Pentax WG-3. I have the WG-2, haven't used it that much, but have been quite satisfied with the results. It is rugged, waterproof, and makes an ideal backpacking camera. http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-WG-3-black-Waterproof-Digital/dp/B00B728M5U/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8m=A7CWZEVWDFA0Y stan On Jun 18, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Eric Weir wrote: On Jun 17, 2013, at 7:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: iPhones/iPod Touch (and Android phones) can also be fit with a weather resistant case (Otterbox, LifeProof, etc.), though even a minimal case (Incipio NGP) has worked beautifully for me for the 29 months i've had my iPhone 4; i shoot with it in all kinds of weather and have gotten it a bit wet now and then, and damp quite often; i know of an iPhone in a similar case that has gotten more wet more times than mine and is still fine these devices have the added benefits of doing all sorts of other things that benefit a traveler Thanks, Steve. Yes, that's a consideration for me. The iPhone 4 is still available in an 8Gb version. Likewise the 4S which has the 8 Mp camera. The iPod Touch is a thought, but I may want to have phone service. Dunno. Some more questions: Any thoughts about the 5 Mp vs. 8 Mp camera? If the phone is going to be used as a camera, how much memory is minimal? Last, any experience with the Google Nexus 4 phone? It's cheap--half the price of an iPhone 5---comes unlocked, and I've read/heard rave reviews except for the camera, which more than one review has panned. I imagine a phone with a camera could be the only device I would need to take. If I took my ist* DS I need something to off-load images to and to get selections of them up on the web. That would probably have to be my notebook. I'm leery of taking it, though it's compact and light weight. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful? - Mary Oliver -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2013-06-18 6:13 Eric Weir wrote Some more questions: Any thoughts about the 5 Mp vs. 8 Mp camera? If the phone is going to be used as a camera, how much memory is minimal? i have the 5 mp, and get lots of good shots with it, but the consensus seems to be that the 8 mp camera is a big step up; it is only about 1/3 more linear resolution, but it has better optics and better low-light performance, and its aperture is f/2.4 instead of f/2.8; these are reasonable specs, but the sensor is smaller than those in better point shoots, and the lens is fixed at a moderate wide angle, so there's definitely some trade-off between phonecam and point shoot as for memory, i have 16GB in my iPhone 4, and 1361 photos are currently taking 2GB; the 8 mp photos would probably be a little under twice the size (they are supposedly sharper, so JPEG compression would squeeze them less) I imagine a phone with a camera could be the only device I would need to take. If I took my ist* DS I need something to off-load images to and to get selections of them up on the web. That would probably have to be my notebook. I'm leery of taking it, though it's compact and light weight. any smartphone/iPod Touch camera has the advantage of easy uploads when wifi is available (you probably don't want to watch your cellular data use while traveling) and you can process sort your images onboard; many will automatically geotag your photos; with iOS devices, if someone has a Mac (or an Apple TV) it's rather simple to Airplay the images onto a bigger screen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: I've been otherwise involved the last few days without much time to do more than an occasional glance at the PDML. But I noticed your query Eric, and also noticed that the discussion seemed to get sidetracked from cameras to phones. I have the iPhone 5. I've used the built-in camera for more than a few beer-bottle photos to share on Facebook from obscure locales, and it works fine. But I would never consider traveling with the iPhone as my only camera. My strong recommendation would be the Pentax WG-3. I have the WG-2, haven't used it that much, but have been quite satisfied with the results. It is rugged, waterproof, and makes an ideal backpacking camera. http://www.amazon.com/Pentax-WG-3-black-Waterproof-Digital/dp/B00B728M5U/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8m=A7CWZEVWDFA0Y Thanks, Stan. And Paul, too. I will definitely keep the WG-3 in mind. I've thought about it for my outdoor adventures in the past, and it might bee the right thing for this trip. The issue will be how to get the images up on the web. Maybe I'll have to forego that on my walk and use my family's computers while I'm with them. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The most important thing is the tee-shirt. - Samara Alnafdage -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Whatever you buy, when you're in Norfolk don't let the locals see it - they'll burn you for witchcraft. And don't let them hear your accent - they'll think you're French, and hang you. Hmm. I thought this walk would be a pretty safe adventure. Are they really that bad? Care to join me? Haven't booked the walk, yet. It will probably be from September 13th through the 21st. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Style is truth. - Ray Bradbury -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Jun 18, 2013, Eric Weir wrote: Thanks, Stan. And Paul, too. I will definitely keep the WG-3 in mind. I've thought about it for my outdoor adventures in the past, and it might bee the right thing for this trip. The issue will be how to get the images up on the web. Maybe I'll have to forego that on my walk and use my family's computers while I'm with them. Keep in mind that the WG-10 might work better for you if you want a longer focal length (I'd certainly pick it over the WG-3 myself, despite the better sensor on the WG-3). -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Eric - I can't imagine why you'd think that you'd need weather resistance in England in September… I thought there was a reasonable chance of Indian Summer weather. Am I mistaken. If so, I will be prepared. We'll unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Our world is a human world. - Hilary Putnam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: I bicycled through the Loire Valley in France for a week with an ist-D and two lenses. Then two years ago I bicycled around Ireland with a K-5 and two (or more) lenses. In a couple of weeks I'll be hiking through the Dolomites in Italy. I plan on carrying the K-5 and at least 3 lenses every day (it's easier to carry more gear when on foot as opposed to on a bicycle). T hanks, Mark. The ist* DS would certainly be my cheapest option. I won't be having to carry much on my walk. Luggage is transported between each night's stay by the company that arranges the walks. If I have room for it in my luggage---two carry-on suitcases and a shoulder bag---it would probably be manageable on my walks. [I hear you saying, yes, it definitely would. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net It is the mark of an educated man to look for precision in each class of things just so far as the nature of the subject admits. - Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 15, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: iPhone 5 is as good as most ps cameras. I've shot pics for publication with mine. No complaints. It's become my daily grab shooter. However when traveling or hiking I still carry my k5. It's not much of a burden, and, hell, I'm a photographer. Thanks, Paul. I was impressed with the images you put up yesterday. An iPhone also has the advantage that it would probably be the only device---camera, phone, computer---I would need to take. Since I'd have to purchase it outright instead of on installment in order to get local calling rates while I'm there, I'll have to see what I can afford after I get the more essential costs nailed down. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. - Amos Oz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: Keep in mind that the WG-10 might work better for you if you want a longer focal length (I'd certainly pick it over the WG-3 myself, despite the better sensor on the WG-3). Will do, Aahz. Thanks, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “On the basis of evidence we may be sure that we are wrong but we can never be sure that we are right.” - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:55 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i have the 5 mp, and get lots of good shots with it, but the consensus seems to be that the 8 mp camera is a big step up; it is only about 1/3 more linear resolution, but it has better optics and better low-light performance, and its aperture is f/2.4 instead of f/2.8; these are reasonable specs, but the sensor is smaller than those in better point shoots, and the lens is fixed at a moderate wide angle, so there's definitely some trade-off between phonecam and point shoot as for memory, i have 16GB in my iPhone 4, and 1361 photos are currently taking 2GB; the 8 mp photos would probably be a little under twice the size (they are supposedly sharper, so JPEG compression would squeeze them less) Thanks, Steve. Very helpful. any smartphone/iPod Touch camera has the advantage of easy uploads when wifi is available (you probably don't want to watch your cellular data use while traveling) and you can process sort your images onboard; many will automatically geotag your photos…. Yes, the idea of one all-purpose device is appealing. [I seem to be agreeing with everyone's suggestions. My decision, whatever it is, will be better for them.] As I said in responding to Paul, I'll need to see what I can afford when essential expenses are firmed up. Sincerely, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “Guess, compute the consequences of the guess, check if they agree with the evidence, and if the evidence persistently refuses to agree, the guess is wrong.” - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18/6/13, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? All the time! But mercifully they've died down by the time they get here. Low pressure systems with rain. Plenty of wind from people like Bob. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 4:20 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 18/6/13, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? All the time! But mercifully they've died down by the time they get here. Low pressure systems with rain. Plenty of wind from people like Bob. But a genuine hurricane smacked London in 1987. I was at a Hyde Park Hotel and watched two hundred year old trees get ripped out of the ground. Roofs came off, cars were overturned and most streets were blocked. A mess. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18 Jun 2013, at 20:06, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:42 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Whatever you buy, when you're in Norfolk don't let the locals see it - they'll burn you for witchcraft. And don't let them hear your accent - they'll think you're French, and hang you. Hmm. I thought this walk would be a pretty safe adventure. Are they really that bad? Care to join me? Haven't booked the walk, yet. It will probably be from September 13th through the 21st. I'd love to join you for at least part of the walk. Perhaps a weekend - I can't get the whole week off! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18 Jun 2013, at 20:08, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On Jun 16, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Eric - I can't imagine why you'd think that you'd need weather resistance in England in September… I thought there was a reasonable chance of Indian Summer weather. Am I mistaken. If so, I will be prepared. We'll unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? We've had a run of poor summers with little in the way of Indian summers recently, so you should bring some light wet weather gear. September is a nice time to visit though. We get the fag-end of your hurricanes sometimes, but Britain gets more tornadoes per land area than any other country in the world, apart from the Netherlands. Strange but true. They tend to be little ones though. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 18 Jun 2013, at 21:20, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 18/6/13, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed: unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? All the time! But mercifully they've died down by the time they get here. Low pressure systems with rain. Plenty of wind from people like Bob. Especially now that I'm a vegetarian. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Care to join me? Haven't booked the walk, yet. It will probably be from September 13th through the 21st. I'd love to join you for at least part of the walk. Perhaps a weekend - I can't get the whole week off! This is the company. http://www.contours.co.uk/index.php This is the walk http://www.contours.co.uk/walking-holidays/peddars-way-norfolk-coast.php It's actually a combination of two that can be done separately. Dunno if they'd accommodate someone for a portion of one of the shorter segments. I haven't booked, yet. Will probably do so tomorrow. Thoughts at this point are of doing it with 8 nights between the 13th and the 21st. Would actually start walking on the 14th, a Saturday. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Our world is a human world. - Hilary Putnam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I thought there was a reasonable chance of Indian Summer weather. Am I mistaken. If so, I will be prepared. We'll unless it's a hurricane? Do they ever get those in England? We've had a run of poor summers with little in the way of Indian summers recently, so you should bring some light wet weather gear. September is a nice time to visit though. I'll be prepared for rain. We get the fag-end of your hurricanes sometimes, but Britain gets more tornadoes per land area than any other country in the world, apart from the Netherlands. Strange but true. They tend to be little ones though. I thought we were the only ones who had tornadoes. Never heard of any in Europe. American self-centeredness? -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net “A thing is right when it tends to preserve the integrity, stability and beauty of the biotic community. It is wrong when it tends otherwise.” - Aldo Leopold -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh no we don't On 16 June 2013 20:50, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: And downhill we go. On 16/06/2013, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 16/6/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Does she like PHOTOGRAPHY? Eh? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! Holiday photos? Could be, could be -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: camera for travel and hiking
First, thanks to all who have replied. Nothing like asking for help them ignoring people when they respond. I've been consumed with getting a new computer set up. Still not finished, but I will get back to the rest of the responses soon. On Jun 15, 2013, at 1:05 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Depends on what you're going to do with the captures. Thanks, Ken. Probably just get em up on the web for family to follow my wanderings around England. If there were one or two good images, I might want to enlarge slightly and print. I imagine most of the subjects will be rural landscape, village and city street sciences, and people. My son has made wonderful images with his iphone. He added an aux lens attachment - Olloclip - http://www.olloclip.com/to give a little more versatility to it. But the limit is really what the ultimate output will be. He makes some nice 8X10 prints but mainly outputs to the Internet thru Instagram. The iPhone is looking less like an option. I was thinking of going the T-Mobile route and switching out the sim card for a local one while I'm there to avoid the ridiculously expensive international roaming rates, but the phone has to be in service for three months before it cane unlocked. I could get around that if I paid for the phone outright, but not sure I want to do that. We'll see. Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, but certainty is an absurd one. - Voltaire -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: camera for travel and hiking
on 2013-06-15 20:17 Aahz Maruch wrote Eric specifically said he wanted weather resistance, which is not something the Q series is known for. For that matter, I doubt the iPhone is particularly good at it, but any personal electronics designed to be constantly carried on the body have to be at least slightly proof against the environment. iPhones/iPod Touch (and Android phones) can also be fit with a weather resistant case (Otterbox, LifeProof, etc.), though even a minimal case (Incipio NGP) has worked beautifully for me for the 29 months i've had my iPhone 4; i shoot with it in all kinds of weather and have gotten it a bit wet now and then, and damp quite often; i know of an iPhone in a similar case that has gotten more wet more times than mine and is still fine these devices have the added benefits of doing all sorts of other things that benefit a traveler Side note: if an iPhone is being brought for just camera usage (at at least no phone usage), consider getting an iPod Touch instead. Given the current generation Touch has a Retina display, the camera is at most one generation behind. good idea; the latest Touch has about the same 5mp camera as the iPhone 4 and i've been pretty happy with that; plus you can use FaceTime, Skype and such when you've got wifi, in lieu of an actual phone service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: village and city street sciences Make that scenes. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 15 June 2013 17:41, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Eric - I can't imagine why you'd think that you'd need weather resistance in England in September... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Whatever you buy, when you're in Norfolk don't let the locals see it - they'll burn you for witchcraft. And don't let them hear your accent - they'll think you're French, and hang you. B On 16 Jun 2013, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 15 June 2013 17:41, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Eric - I can't imagine why you'd think that you'd need weather resistance in England in September... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sounds like an amalgam of at least two Monty Python skits. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: June 16, 2013 6/16/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: camera for travel and hiking Whatever you buy, when you're in Norfolk don't let the locals see it - they'll burn you for witchcraft. And don't let them hear your accent - they'll think you're French, and hang you. B On 16 Jun 2013, at 08:13, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: On 15 June 2013 17:41, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Eric - I can't imagine why you'd think that you'd need weather resistance in England in September... Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Whatever you buy, when you're in Norfolk don't let the locals see it - they'll burn you for witchcraft. And don't let them hear your accent - they'll think you're French, and hang you. Sounds like an amalgam of at least two Monty Python skits. Does she like PHOTOGRAPHY? Eh? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 16/6/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Does she like PHOTOGRAPHY? Eh? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! Holiday photos? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 16/6/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Does she like PHOTOGRAPHY? Eh? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! Holiday photos? Could be, could be -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And downhill we go. On 16/06/2013, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 16/6/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Does she like PHOTOGRAPHY? Eh? Know what I mean? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! Holiday photos? Could be, could be -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Depends on what you're going to do with the captures. My son has made wonderful images with his iphone. He added an aux lens attachment - Olloclip - http://www.olloclip.com/ to give a little more versatility to it. But the limit is really what the ultimate output will be. He makes some nice 8X10 prints but mainly outputs to the Internet thru Instagram. HTH Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Subject: camera for travel and hiking I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, Eric Weir wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. How much do you want/need low-light and high dynamic range (e.g. dawn/dusk photos)? What size/weight are you looking at? What 35mm equiv reach? Price? Because this is the Pentax list, I suppose you ought to at least look at the WG-10 and WG-3... ;-) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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We have had great success with our WG2 on tours such as camel rides, 4x4 desert trips etc. And underwater of course although it is really wierd rinsing off yuor camera after salt water snorkelling. Really happy with the images. My wife often used the WG2 instead of her K100D during our recent cruise because it is so light. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Eric Weir Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: camera for travel and hiking I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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iPhone 5 is as good as most ps cameras. I've shot pics for publication with mine. No complaints. It's become my daily grab shooter. However when traveling or hiking I still carry my k5. It's not much of a burden, and, hell, I'm a photographer. Paul via phone On Jun 15, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I bicycled through the Loire Valley in France for a week with an ist-D and two lenses. Then two years ago I bicycled around Ireland with a K-5 and two (or more) lenses. In a couple of weeks I'll be hiking through the Dolomites in Italy. I plan on carrying the K-5 and at least 3 lenses every day (it's easier to carry more gear when on foot as opposed to on a bicycle). -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: camera for travel and hiking
Depending on your budget, a Q system with the 02 Zoom might be gjust the ticket. Add the 06 telephone zoom in you have the coin and like to do telephoto work. I use my Q setup when I travel for work and love it. I have not compared it to an I phone but I suspect it is superior. Mark On 6/15/2013 12:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Eric specifically said he wanted weather resistance, which is not something the Q series is known for. For that matter, I doubt the iPhone is particularly good at it, but any personal electronics designed to be constantly carried on the body have to be at least slightly proof against the environment. Side note: if an iPhone is being brought for just camera usage (at at least no phone usage), consider getting an iPod Touch instead. Given the current generation Touch has a Retina display, the camera is at most one generation behind. I had dinner with my ex-boss a few days ago, he's legally blind and is very happy with his iPhone combined with an add-on lens for for use as a portable magnifying glass. (Obviously he also uses it as a phone, would be overkill for just magnification.) On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, Mark C wrote: Depending on your budget, a Q system with the 02 Zoom might be gjust the ticket. Add the 06 telephone zoom in you have the coin and like to do telephoto work. I use my Q setup when I travel for work and love it. I have not compared it to an I phone but I suspect it is superior. Mark On 6/15/2013 12:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote: I'll be spending the month of September in England visiting family in Clacton-on-Sea and London and doing a nine-day walking tour from Thetford to Hunstanton to Comer. Of course I'd like to make photos while I'm there, but will be traveling light. My only digital camera at present is a ist* DS with a selection of M and A lenses. I don't think I want to drag that along, even with just one or two lenses, especially on the walk. I'd be interested in recommendations for a versatile weather resistant compact camera. One solution I'm considering is getting an iPhone and relying just on its camera, and I wonder what y'all think of that. Thanks, -- Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net Any assurance economists pretend to with regard to cause and effect is merely a pose. - Emanuel Derman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I dont know about weather resist, but I would think the Q and a few lenses would be ideal small lightweight kit for travel/hiking. -- J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
