Re: how hideous

[John]

On 4/29/2018 03:39, Jostein wrote:



Den 27.04.2018 20:42, skrev John:


Unless you went down the wrong branch of the decision tree and you should have 
been using WD-40 instead.


http://www.taproot.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/wd40-ducttape.jpg


LOL.

WD-40 and lenses? hmmm

Jostein




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Re: how hideous

[Jostein]

Den 27.04.2018 20:42, skrev John:


Unless you went down the wrong branch of the decision tree and you 
should have been using WD-40 instead.


http://www.taproot.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/wd40-ducttape.jpg


LOL.

WD-40 and lenses? hmmm

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Re: how hideous

[John]

On 4/26/2018 14:32, Jostein wrote:



Den 24.04.2018 20:25, skrev mike wilson:

Jostein has a way with Duct tape


If you can't fix it with duct tape, you haven't used enough duct tape. :-D



Unless you went down the wrong branch of the decision tree and you should have 
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Re: how hideous

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Neat!

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On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Jostein  wrote:

>
>
> Den 24.04.2018 20:25, skrev mike wilson:
>
>> Jostein has a way with Duct tape
>>
>
> If you can't fix it with duct tape, you haven't used enough duct tape. :-D
>
> On that note, and tuning in with the cellphone theme here, I recently
> purchased an app for my phone that, provided you cover the lens with duct
> tape, will turn your phone into a quite decent dosimeter.
>
> Apparently it utilises the same effect that had me seriously scared some
> six years ago, when I discovered odd streaks of seemingly glowing sensor
> dust in long exposure shots with the 645D. And when I looked closer I found
> similar black streaks too. Not your ordinary hot pixel, although some were
> just dots, one or two pixels wide. And not your ordinary dust either, as
> some drew regular spiralling patterns.
>
> In the 645D case, the sensor was just picking up backscatter of cosmic
> rays, shattered and bounced by the Earth's crust; which neatly explained
> the black streaks as subtracted noise during dark-framing.
>
> The app, however, cranks up the ISO to some unknown overdrive and look
> specifically for trails made by alpha and beta particles. Thought that was
> pretty neat.
>
> And since there is a known area of Thorium-containing ore an hour's drive
> from here, I might now go looking. Duct tape at the ready. :-)
>
> Jostein
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Re: how hideous

[Jostein]

Den 24.04.2018 20:25, skrev mike wilson:

Jostein has a way with Duct tape


If you can't fix it with duct tape, you haven't used enough duct tape. :-D

On that note, and tuning in with the cellphone theme here, I recently 
purchased an app for my phone that, provided you cover the lens with 
duct tape, will turn your phone into a quite decent dosimeter.


Apparently it utilises the same effect that had me seriously scared some 
six years ago, when I discovered odd streaks of seemingly glowing sensor 
dust in long exposure shots with the 645D. And when I looked closer I 
found similar black streaks too. Not your ordinary hot pixel, although 
some were just dots, one or two pixels wide. And not your ordinary dust 
either, as some drew regular spiralling patterns.


In the 645D case, the sensor was just picking up backscatter of cosmic 
rays, shattered and bounced by the Earth's crust; which neatly explained 
the black streaks as subtracted noise during dark-framing.


The app, however, cranks up the ISO to some unknown overdrive and look 
specifically for trails made by alpha and beta particles. Thought that 
was pretty neat.


And since there is a known area of Thorium-containing ore an hour's 
drive from here, I might now go looking. Duct tape at the ready. :-)


Jostein

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Re: how hideous

[Eric Weir]

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I'm about to upgrade from my iPhone 6 to iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, which is one 
> reason I was doing the research on the Momentist lens system even as this 
> thread popped up. :-)

With the Plus iPhones since the 7 you get two front lenses, but of course you 
know that. If I had a Plus I wouldn’t need Moment’s telephoto lens, but that 
big a phone. Is lack of room the reason they’re not putting two lenses on the 
basic model?

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Re: how hideous

[mike wilson]

> On 24 April 2018 at 14:52 Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:26 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 12 Apr 2018, at 07:44, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> >> 
> >> On 11/4/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >> 
> >>> I just can't imagine...
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/
> >> 
> >> I could see how that might have applications in the film industry in terms 
> >> of location scouting or DoP recce recordings etc.
> >> 
> > 
> > Big important movies are being made on iPhone now, and winning prizes. I’m 
> > interested to see how this pans out, so to speak. 
> 
> 
> Me too!  This is very interesting.  I’m definitely up for trying my 21mm & 
> 40mm on a set up like this—provided I had the money to purchase the 
> adapter—could be pricey.

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Re: how hideous

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'm about to upgrade from my iPhone 6 to iPhone 8 or 8 Plus, which is one 
reason I was doing the research on the Momentist lens system even as this 
thread popped up. :-)

G

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:38 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> The Momentist lenses and accessories are very high quality. The use of their 
>> system properly aligns the add-on optic to the phone's camera lens, netting 
>> significantly better than average quality results. 
>> 
>> A friend who was a huge Canon pro gear fan has all but stopped using his 
>> Canon gear entirely now, using the Momentist accessory lenses on his iPhone. 
>> The quality of his photographs has, if anything, improved ... probably since 
>> he enjoys using the gear much more now that he isn't carrying a 20lb bag 
>> around all the time. 
>> 
>> It seems well worth the money to buy a case and a couple of their lenses! 
> 
> Thanks, Godfrey. Especially after your report, I think so. I’ll get the 
> telephoto lens and case now. I suspect down the road I’ll be tempted to move 
> up to a more recent iPhone to be able to take advantage of the battery case 
> with dedicated shutter button.

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Re: how hideous

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> On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> The Momentist lenses and accessories are very high quality. The use of their 
> system properly aligns the add-on optic to the phone's camera lens, netting 
> significantly better than average quality results. 
> 
> A friend who was a huge Canon pro gear fan has all but stopped using his 
> Canon gear entirely now, using the Momentist accessory lenses on his iPhone. 
> The quality of his photographs has, if anything, improved ... probably since 
> he enjoys using the gear much more now that he isn't carrying a 20lb bag 
> around all the time. 
> 
> It seems well worth the money to buy a case and a couple of their lenses! 

Thanks, Godfrey. Especially after your report, I think so. I’ll get the 
telephoto lens and case now. I suspect down the road I’ll be tempted to move up 
to a more recent iPhone to be able to take advantage of the battery case with 
dedicated shutter button.

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Re: how hideous

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Apr 24, 2018, at 6:52 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:26 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>>> On 12 Apr 2018, at 07:44, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> On 11/4/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
 I just can't imagine...
 https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/
>>> 
>>> I could see how that might have applications in the film industry in terms 
>>> of location scouting or DoP recce recordings etc.
>> Big important movies are being made on iPhone now, and winning prizes. I’m 
>> interested to see how this pans out, so to speak. 
> Me too!  This is very interesting.  I’m definitely up for trying my 21mm & 
> 40mm on a set up like this—provided I had the money to purchase the 
> adapter—could be pricey.

Yes, same here. I'd love to try one of these mounting rigs with my Leica R 
lenses. They have such smooth focusing action, and most are not overly large or 
heavy. 

I bought a RYLO 360° action camera a few months back ... I've only played with 
it a bit as yet, but I think there are some great possibilities between the 
iPhone and the RYLO for motion fun. :-)

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Re: how hideous

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The Momentist lenses and accessories are very high quality. The use of their 
system properly aligns the add-on optic to the phone's camera lens, netting 
significantly better than average quality results. 

A friend who was a huge Canon pro gear fan has all but stopped using his Canon 
gear entirely now, using the Momentist accessory lenses on his iPhone. The 
quality of his photographs has, if anything, improved ... probably since he 
enjoys using the gear much more now that he isn't carrying a 20lb bag around 
all the time. 

It seems well worth the money to buy a case and a couple of their lenses! 

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> On Apr 24, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
> My only complaint about the phone is the focal length/angle of view. (Well, 
> and a view finder, but ain’t gonna happen). I wanted something longer and 
> narrower. After checking out this thread I went looking on the web and found 
> this.  It requires the use of 
> their phone case, but the case looks a lot like the simple case I have on the 
> phone now, with the ability to fasten a lens to the phone. Also a wrist or 
> neck strap, another thing for which I’ve wished. Haven’t read any reviews, 
> but I will be. 
> 
> They have lots of other neat products, too, especially for smartphone 
> videographers. Their battery phone case for iPhone 7 and up has a dedicated 
> shutter button.

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Re: how hideous

[Eric Weir]

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 4:58 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I've also heard quite a few people wishing they had better lenses for their 
> phone cameras.

Last fall, on a trip on the Blue Ridge Parkway, I ended up without a way to 
recharge my camera batteries, and relied on my iPhone 6s exclusively for at 
least half of the trip. When I viewed the images on the phone, I was not 
impressed. When I got them into Lightroom I definitely was. 

I'm just back from a month in Big Bend National Park. Again, a new battery 
charger for my Fuji XM1 failed. This time I had my Fuji X-Q1 compact camera as 
well as my iPhone. In my unsophisticated opinion, the X-Q1 gave me as good as I 
would’ve got with the X-M1, plus I could zoom my shots. (My only lens for the 
X-M1 is a 27/2.8.) And again I was impressed with the images I got with the 
phone. Not only sharp, but throughout an unexpected depth of field. 

My only complaint about the phone is the focal length/angle of view. (Well, and 
a view finder, but ain’t gonna happen). I wanted something longer and narrower. 
After checking out this thread I went looking on the web and found this. 
 It requires the use of their 
phone case, but the case looks a lot like the simple case I have on the phone 
now, with the ability to fasten a lens to the phone. Also a wrist or neck 
strap, another thing for which I’ve wished. Haven’t read any reviews, but I 
will be. 

They have lots of other neat products, too, especially for smartphone 
videographers. Their battery phone case for iPhone 7 and up has a dedicated 
shutter button.

I’ve been contemplating some camera and lens purchases. I think I’m gonna hold 
off to see how things go with more intentional use of the phone as a camera. 
The possibility of becoming a phone-only photographer—to the extent that I can 
call myself a photographer—is actually starting to become attractive. Suits my 
minimilist tastes. 

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Re: how hideous

[Christine Aguila]

> On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:26 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12 Apr 2018, at 07:44, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/4/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> I just can't imagine...
>>> 
>> 
>> https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/
>> 
>> I could see how that might have applications in the film industry in terms 
>> of location scouting or DoP recce recordings etc.
>> 
> 
> Big important movies are being made on iPhone now, and winning prizes. I’m 
> interested to see how this pans out, so to speak. 


Me too!  This is very interesting.  I’m definitely up for trying my 21mm & 40mm 
on a set up like this—provided I had the money to purchase the adapter—could be 
pricey.

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Re: how hideous

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My son's iPhone X has a great portrait mode as well.  Does better than most
DSLRs.


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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Larry,
>
> Actually, Samsung does that with a "dual-camera" setup, - where they
> realize a "portrait" mode. It's actually quite good, - I saw one just two
> days ago, when a hair master took a few photos of the customer. It
> minimizes or even eliminates that wide-lens-selfie effect, and also blurs
> the background, - as you see with a portrait or telephoto lens.
>
> I am not sure if this is the model I've seen, but this article has some
> samples at the bottom of the page:
>
> https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/5/16253308/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review
>
>
> Larry Colen Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:59:33 -0700 wrote:
>
>
> One question is whether they also do something optically to correct for
> the crop factor.
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Re: how hideous

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry,

Actually, Samsung does that with a "dual-camera" setup, - where they 
realize a "portrait" mode. It's actually quite good, - I saw one just two 
days ago, when a hair master took a few photos of the customer. It 
minimizes or even eliminates that wide-lens-selfie effect, and also blurs 
the background, - as you see with a portrait or telephoto lens.


I am not sure if this is the model I've seen, but this article has some 
samples at the bottom of the page:


https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/5/16253308/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review


Larry Colen Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:59:33 -0700 wrote:


One question is whether they also do something optically to correct for 
the crop factor.


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Re: how hideous

[Larry Colen]

John wrote:

It's not for me, 'cause I don't have an iPhone, but I'd say it's more
"hipster" than hideous. I'm sure there's a market for it out there ...
somewhere.


It is a classic case of a solution in search of a problem.

That being said, the sensors in phones are getting surprisingly good 
these days, outperforming a lot of classic film cameras. It also has the 
advantage of getting the photos directly to most folks primary means of 
communication.


I've also heard quite a few people wishing they had better lenses for 
their phone cameras. If the problem is wanting to use old lenses you 
have lying around this is probably less expensive than a dedicated 
mirrorless camera and adapters.


One question is whether they also do something optically to correct for 
the crop factor.


If not, they won't be around long enough to bother you.

On 4/11/2018 16:22, Gonz wrote:

I just can't imagine...

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/








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Re: how hideous

[John]

It's not for me, 'cause I don't have an iPhone, but I'd say it's more "hipster" 
than hideous. I'm sure there's a market for it out there ... somewhere.


If not, they won't be around long enough to bother you.

On 4/11/2018 16:22, Gonz wrote:

I just can't imagine...

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/





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Re: how hideous

[Alan C]

It may well appeal to the owners of thousands of old lenses out there - a 
kind of utility mirrorless. Also, many of the upmarket 'phones have much 
larger sensors today.


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Re: how hideous

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On 12 Apr 2018, at 07:44, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 11/4/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I just can't imagine...
>> 
> 
> https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/
> 
> I could see how that might have applications in the film industry in terms of 
> location scouting or DoP recce recordings etc.
> 

Big important movies are being made on iPhone now, and winning prizes. I’m 
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Re: how hideous

[Steve Cottrell]

On 11/4/18, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I just can't imagine...
>

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/

I could see how that might have applications in the film industry in terms of 
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Re: how hideous

[Bill]

On 4/11/2018 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote:

I just can't imagine...

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/11/this-adapter-lets-you-mount-any-giant-lens-on-your-tiny-smartphone/


Gaaaw. Now the retards on DPReview will be cumming in their jeans even 
more about the death of real cameras.


bill

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how hideous

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I just can't imagine...

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