Re: F 70-210 question
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Boris Liberman wrote: I find it particularly odd thing to put on the lens. After all it is F lens so that I will tell the camera the proper aperture electronically. Well, this is Pentax g. Exactly, you hit it on the head! You can use the lens with all previous K-mount bodies that don't have the electronic contacts. You can use this lens in aperture priority and manual mode with the SF, Z, and MZ bodies that don't have a mode selector knob. Good stuff, I say! Kostas
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
Which cameras use 3/8? Do the Pentax 645 or 6x7 use them? Hassleblad? 4x5 view cameras? William Robb wrote, in part: Did anyone ever figure out if Les Bogen had a 1/4x20 arse or a 3/8x20? I've always been curious.
Re: F 70-210 question
I find it particularly odd thing to put on the lens. After all it is F lens so that I will tell the camera the proper aperture electronically. Well, this is Pentax g. It's for those of us that might be using the lens in a manual mode or an aperture-priority autoexposure mode, who are looking at the aperture dial on the lens... Some of us might never use this in a mode or on a body that utilized the lens' electrical info. Fred
Re: F 70-210 question
Hi! It's for those of us that might be using the lens in a manual mode or an aperture-priority autoexposure mode, who are looking at the aperture dial on the lens... Some of us might never use this in a mode or on a body that utilized the lens' electrical info. Is it correct that I can use this lens on my ME Super? I actually thought (how ignorant of me) that this wasn't possible. Probably wrong assumption all together. But since I have MZ-6 and this lens is KAF mount, I indeed am going to use the ability of the body to read the aperture value off the lens... I guess this is how MZ-6 spoiled me. It can take aperture if the lens if off A position and it can also set aperture electronically. Thanks for your help. Boris
Re: OT:shipping to Canada
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 00:49:27 EST, you wrote: I must say after reading stuff on this list I will probably never use UPS. I sell a little bit of junk of ebay and I use US Postal Service priority mail. If you accept PayPal, be aware of a big scam they are perpetrating. The bidder buys from sellers who are using Priority Mail (which normally does not have online tracking) then claims he never received the package. Acting on that claim, PayPal automatically reverses the funds from the seller back to the buyer. The buyer keeps the gear, and gets the money back. The seller pays the fees, and loses his gear. End of story, no appeal. Why? Because the seller violated the terms of service by not sending the package with Online Tracking. PayPal does not care whether or not the package was sent or received, or if the buyer paid for insurance, or even if the buyer account holder is the person making the claim. They only care if someone, anyone, logged in and pushed the website button saying non-receipt of item, and was there online tracking for the item in transit. May I humbly recommend those who accept PayPal always ship with online tracking to avoid this scam? Remember, the buyer gets the money back, and gets to keep the gear. Oh yeh, the seller gets to pay all the Ebay and PayPal fees to boot. But wait - there's more!. The other big PayPal scam is about the item description. It the buyer claims the item was not as described, PayPal will reverse the funds back to the buyer without recourse by the seller. Again, the buyer gets the gear and the money, the seller loses his gear and pays the fees. End of story, but at least in this case there is some provision for appeal by providing proof of condition. So always photograph the goods before and after packaging. Also, keep the description undeniably accurate (read:simple) because do you really want some desk jockey at PayPal giving your money away because the M-series lens you sold does not have autofocus, and is therefore not in Excellent condition? PayPal is not your friend. Make no mistake about it. They will change their terms of service without notification, then hold you to the new terms - and take your money. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:54:21 -0600, you wrote: John, I do realize at horizontal that the 3265 head performs nicely with the 3 kg lens, however, I'm not shooting horizontally due to the high incidence of 'things' in the way of the moon (trees, houses, etc). Consequently I have to shoot at angles greater than 30 degrees much of the time. The tension adjustment is a good point though . . . very nice, when shooting at higher angles I had it dialed up all the way though :-( Why not build a gimbal just for high-angle shooting? Seems like a few hardware store items and angle iron would do the trick. I'm sure I saw a home-made one on a web search awhile ago. Plus I think there is a cheap gimbal ($50) out there somewhere, maybe even Bogen. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
WTB or WTT: F 70-210
The F 70-210 is a decent lens. I've had a couple of them in years past, both sold or traded away. But now I'd like one for the *istD. Anyone have an extra F 70-210/f4-536 they want to sell or trade? -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
RE: #1 Rule in Photography-was: PAW: Above the clouds
I must disagree to some extent. In terms of the showing of images, yes we can be our worst critics. But that is more along the lines of getting rid of everything since we find fault in just about everything of ours (generally speaking). When it comes to family/friends photos though, nothing should ever be thrown out. I have come across images shot when I was a kid that though technically poor still are the only images I have of certain people. That alone is reason enough to keep them. But I do not see why the bad must be discarded. I have read often enough here of people going back to shots and seeing something that makes it worth keeping that was not noted upon first review... Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:35 PM That's just the point Shel, I understand this all too well. I seldom make photographs of close friends/family etc.,since I cannot emotionally divorce myself, the shots all look terrible after the fact. A good photographer learns to discard the bad and keep the good. That's the most difficult thing to do. But it must be done. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Totally disagree ... most photographers are not good editors of their own work. Often they have too much emotion involved in their photographs. shel Peter J. Alling wrote: Be your own editor. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi Frank ... I guess that's a version of F8 and be there ;-)) But what might the second rule be?
Re: Need flat bed scanner advise, pls.
Keith. If the Epson 2450 is still available, go for that.It does negs,35mm 6x6 to 6x9 and 4x5.I am not infront of mine,but i think the glass will take an 81/2 x 11,or at least close to it.The light sourse in the lid is narrower,about 6 i think,wide. Its a pretty good unit. Dave With my new Mac, I now need a USB scanner, instead of my trusty Microtek Serial Port scanner. It's a shame to have to replace a perfectly good scanner, but. . . I was considering an Epson Perfection 3170. Any chance anyone here has one? Or, glowing words on some other flat bed scanner that will take 8 1/12 x 11 plus also scan negatives and prints? Take-home price limit about US$200. Thanks, keith whaley
RE: 30 vs 31?
Stan, Why the short reunion? Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:40 AM Ask me again in a month. My 30mm and 31mm will be reunited, if only for a few days, and this time I WILL take some comparison shots. Stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiousity, can anyone speak from experience about the relative optical performance of the K30/2.8 and the FA limited 31? The 31 is of course faster, and has A and AF functions, plus you can buy one pretty much any time from NY dealers. I'd be tempted, but I've got a K30 and my tests (I haven't had much chance to SHOOT with it) show it to be a superb performer, decreasing the appeal of the FA 31. On a related note, I understand that M150/3.5 and M100/2.8 are generally held to be inferior to K150/4.0 and K105/2.8 (both screw-mount designs, from what I can tell). Unfortunately, the M lenses are cheapish and easy to come by, and the K lenses aren't. I'm particularly curious about the M150/3.5 as an alternative to hauling an M80-210/4.5 or K135/2.5 (better, but bigger) to England next year. DJE
RE: Just wanted to say...
Tanja, I feel that now that you already are doing business as tanya, you should stay that way. Though you probably have all variations as tags on your site to help people find you. Tanja is who you are and you should be using this on a daily basis. I go by Cesar though not many ever get it right :-) Family calls me Abdul since they call my father Cesar. So going by different names - no big deal. Cesar -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 4:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Just wanted to say... A big thankyou to all of you kind, considerate people who took it upon yourselves to notice that I wrote to Wendy about the spelling of my name and how I preferred it. I have noticed you all taking the trouble to spell it correctly and I really do appreciate it...! Actually, now that I think about it, it kind of raises a question - do you all think I would be better off using it for business purposes? ie. Tanja Mayer Photography. I am just wondering if the benefit of it being so memorable as a spelling would outweigh the diffulties people might have actually spelling it. Or do you think that it is better to have something that is easier to spell and thus easier for prospective clients to look me up on the internet/phone book etc.? I originally wanted my business to be Fotos by Fairy (and I discussed this with John, Jan and Ryan on Sat night), but chose to register www.tanyamayer.com as my domain name etc instead so that it wouldn't be limiting eg, I can use it for my makeup artistry etc as well as photography, and just in case I should ever grow out of my fairy phase... All thoughts greatly appreciated... tan.
Name pronounciation was RE: Just wanted to say...
I have heard so many variations on my name over the years. And that is just my first name - we will not even go into my last name :-) But I do try to correct people when they first meet me. From that point on I don't try to be picky about it. I know they are referring to me. It almost identifies the circle of friends based on how they pronounce it. Though some still cannot get it right. And if we talk of family, I am known there as Abdul since my father is the one known as Cesar. It makes people remember you that is for sure as they try to get the name right. I do not believe it would traumatize any child by not Anglicizing the name. I am proud of my name for it comes from my grandmother. I never met her, but there is still my connection to her via my name. Most interesting is how certain people call me based on the language used... Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Keith WHALEY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:52 PM Hi Tanja. . . Actually, I'm all for educating others to the family's way of pronouncing the name. Or, the heritage version, I call it. For example, my daughter has a very good girlfriend, who is Hungarian or similar (okay, I forgot!) and wanted to name her daughter Hana. Pronounced HAH-nah. That's how it is pronounced in her family's home country. I said stick with it. Spell and pronounce it as you want. . . In fact, I like Hana a lot. It has a nice ring to it! But, the mom said no. . .when the poor kid goes to school (here in the U.S.) it will be a constant correcting of students and teachers, on how to properly pronounce her name. So, she Anglicized it. That's a shame, far as I'm concerned. So, i guess it's easier all around if you keep it spelled Tanya, so it's pronounced okay, instead of spelled okay, with Tanja. I prefer Tanja, mind you, but as someone pointed out, you're a business, and you do have to take other considerations into account. You've got a wonderful start for anyone, let alone someone so young! Good onya! g Much luck in the future! keith whaley * * * Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: LOL @ Keith! No Keith - your pronounciation would've been almost correct. It is actually pronounced Tarn-ya or Ten-ya to the Aussie lingo-ists. The story goes that my actual birth name is spelt Tanja, but here in Oz, most locals (who don't usually have a wonderful grasp of correct English grammar use and spellings) have difficulty comprehending how the letters T-A-N-J-A can result with the pronounciation as above. Sooo, for business purposes, I have adopted the spelling Tanya. I prefer my true name, and was just asking the list if I should stick with the Tanya version or revert to my preferred Tanja. Concensus seems to be that to stick with Tanya would be better. And to keep well away from anything Fairy related (which I kind of new already - hence, www.tanyamayer.com and not www.fotosbyfairy.whatever). Here in Oz, we also have the word Fairy meaning similar connotations to those already posted. Not sure about Bill Robb's interpretation of the Fag hanging from the lip - might be a bit heavy and awkward, I would think... Hardy Har Har! tan. Keith wrote: Oh no! I've been offline and haven't been following this thread - don't tell me it is a hard J, as in Jamaica! It's a good thing I didn't pronounce it Ton-ya (phonetically) in public! Next thing you'll be telling me it's Tan, as in the color, and 'juh' as an ending. If so, now I will next need the derivation!
Re: Sometimes you just run into a strange scene
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Mark Roberts wrote: Here's one that's a bit surreal: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7cf01018.jpg They flood Edinburgh for the Festival in August. Together with a million other types of street and stage performers. Strongly recommended as a photo outing (though the accommodation and show prices are indeed steep). Kostas
WTP: Front lens cap 52mm
Hello, I need the front lens cap for 52mm, but original Asahi Pentax only - to fit my K 50/1.4. Maybe somebody can sell it for a few $$$ ? Best Regards Jerry
Re: anti-M arguments
At 11:35 PM 3/2/2004 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, a great many M lenses were identical optically to either the preceding K lens, or to the following A lens, so I don't think that in those (many) cases anybody can credibly claim that the Ks or As were better. They CAN'T be identically optically to the K lenses in most cases because they are enough smaller that you cannot fit the same elements in the smaller container and have them work right. Note also that two lenses with the same specs (elements, groups, minimum focus distance) may in fact be different optical designs. I don't have any first hand info on the lens design, but I took a look at the charts on Bojidar Dimitrov's K mount site: http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ If you click on the lens there is the optical formula there, which is typically x elements in y groups. Click on that you get a chart showing the actual layout of the elements. I looked at which ones had the identical chart, not just elements / groups specs. For example, if you look at the detail regarding the M 28 f2.8 versions 1 and 2, you'll see that while they share the same specs (7 elements in 7 groups), the charts that details the optical construction are different. I agree. If you look at the optical formulae on Boz's site, it's apparent that the majority of M lenses have the same optics as either the preceeding K lenses or the succeeding A lenses. After you factor out the lenses that were truly unique - like the 40 f2.8 and 150 f2.8 Huh? That would be unique. Sorry, mistyped - that should of been 150 f4. But my essential point remains. Specifically, once you factor out the M lenses that are totally different than preceding and succeeding lenses (and there cannot reasonably be compared to them) and factor out lenses that are optically identical to the comparable K and A lenses, you wind up with a relatively small number of M lenses with distinct designs. I have looked only at the primes - the M zooms may be more unique. - there are only a handful of M lenses that have distinct optical designs and that can be compared to the K's or A's, There is very little overlap between the K line and the M line lens designs as far as I can tell, and this is the bone of contention. A lot of K lenses were replaced with new M designs that seem to be held to be not quite as good. There is less overlap between the K and M lines than the M and A lines. But I was responding to the comments that the M line was a low point in Pentax lens engineering. If your argument is that K lenses were generally superior and things have gone downhill since then, that argument is probably more sustainable on its face. A lot of M lenses do appear to have been continued in the A line unchanged optically and basically unchanged physically except for cosmetics. Where M lenses are identical optically to the A lenses I have seen a lot of comments suggesting that the A version is better. This could be from factors of manufacturing (glass, coating, grinding technique, precision of manufacturing, quality control) or some other way that experience has improved the lens without changing the optical formulation. Some folks have noted that SMC coating improved over time and A's are better than M's in regards to that. That's a believable argument, and just looking at M and A lenses you can see differences in the color tint of the coatings that suggest they are different. Personally, I see a lot of variability in lens evaluations among lenses that are optically identical - like the F 50's (1.7 and 1.4) seem to rated higher than the A and FA counterparts. Similarly, the 100 f2.8 macro seems to be consistently regarded as slightly better than the FA 100 f2.8 in tests, though these lenses should be identical in all ways except internal electronics and cosmetics. I have no idea what could account for the differences, though the factors you mention may play a roll. - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support Which cameras use 3/8? Do the Pentax 645 or 6x7 use them? Hassleblad? 4x5 view cameras? William Robb wrote, in part: Did anyone ever figure out if Les Bogen had a 1/4x20 arse or a 3/8x20? I've always been curious. Some of the larger view cameras use a 3/8 thread. Not sure what else used 3/8 though. I have a Manfrotto QR plate around somewhere for a 3/8 socket in the event I ever get a camera that needs it. I doubt I will ever use it, but it was free. William Robb
Re: Re[2]: PAW - Tabletop shots
- Original Message - From: Boros Attila Subject: Re[2]: PAW - Tabletop shots Hello Tanya, TMP Boros, did you really shoot these with 15 and 10 second exposures?!?! If TMP you did, they are incredibly sharp!! Pardon me, I forgot to ask in my previous post why are you asking that? Does long exposures affect sharpness? I know nothing about that... Tanja, the anti-tripod William Robb
RE: Freakin' heck...!!!
Tanja wrote: The Newspaper deadline I was talking about? I got a front page A bit behind with my mail, so this is great to read - fantastic. Well, bugger me dead, I just went to the newsagents, and look what I found!! I hope that means something different on your side of the globe :-) http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/ Front page, full colour, that is my freakin' photo!! Well, that certainly puts the only photo I ever had published into perspective (half way through the local rag, BW, size of a big car sales advert). Well done! Now get some cash out of them. Malcolm
Re: F 70-210 question
So can the Super A, for that matter, and most of the better cameras that followed it. On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:16:10 +0300, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . I guess this is how MZ-6 spoiled me. It can take aperture if the lens if off A position and it can also set aperture electronically. Thanks for your help. Boris -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
RE: First Brisbane PDML a huge success!
Now that is one model shoot I would have to attend Wondering if PDMLers should be wary of the spider showing up at GFMtn :-P Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:21 PM Much like a spider in it's web, with bunny ears. (I just had to share that image). frank theriault wrote: Cesar, The difference is that you travel, and I just sit up here in Toronto and wait for folks to come up (or in the case of Wendy, down) here. vbg Of course, I'll be expanding my PDML horizons in early June (can't wait!). Woo Hoo!! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:25:13 -0500 Frank, I almost was tempted to attempt my version of this. But I am sure that I will forget someone along the way. I am terrible with names. Let me just say I have met PDMLers at: Baltimore DCPDML NYCPDML San Antonio, Texas Salt Lake City, Utah Grandfather Mountain, NC - NPW, Camera Clinic Still trying to get together with those from South Florida... Always willing to get together with PDMLers, Cesar Panama City, Florida
RE: Name pronounciation was RE: Just wanted to say...
From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have heard so many variations on my name over the years. And that is just my first name - we will not even go into my last name :-) Tell me about it. :) Amita
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support Which cameras use 3/8? Do the Pentax 645 or 6x7 use them? Hassleblad? 4x5 view cameras? William Robb wrote, in part: Did anyone ever figure out if Les Bogen had a 1/4x20 arse or a 3/8x20? I've always been curious. Some of the larger view cameras use a 3/8 thread. Not sure what else used 3/8 though. I have a Manfrotto QR plate around somewhere for a 3/8 socket in the event I ever get a camera that needs it. I doubt I will ever use it, but it was free. I had an old Zorki rangefinder that used a 3/8. ERN
Re: *istD quiry
Stan said,sort of... I am afraid I cannot comment on your other questions. I look through the viewfinder, I don't look at it. Stan So would i Stan.g Nice shots BTW Dave
Re: more M philosophy
The K lenses are a bit bigger and a better fit on the KM, KX, K2, K1000. For the ME and MX, you want the smaller lenses as part of the matching kit. And that's the real beauty of the M's. Carry a big, slow zoom or put the 50/1.4 on the camera and the M85/2.0 plus M150/3.5 in the bag. You've got a small, light, nice handling camera kit that won't kill your shoulder and has prime lens sharpness. (Updated today to the limiteds, 43mm 77mm, plus the A20/2.8) I think the weight issue was an important one for Pentax as they tried to combat the encroachment of Zoom lenses in the '70's. Pentax was selling a full lens line and eschewing zooms, but getting killed at the camera counter by Vivitar and their zoom lenses. The sales point was always 'inferior zoom' sharpness. Eventually Pentax relented and added Zooms, but for a long time only the M zoom was the 40-80mm and that was introduced as by Pentax with an 'apology' on quality. In the screwmount Takumars, the only Zoom I know of was the 85-210mm and the list price was US$600+ (more than a 6x7 at the time!). Regards, Bob S. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've also really wondered how much REALLY smaller and lighter the M lenses are than the K lenses. At the extreme focal lengths it is quite noticeable--the Ms weigh about half as much. In the more normal focal length range they weigh about 75% of what the comparable K lens weighs. My ideal 20/28/50/105/200 kit weighs about 3.5 pounds if K lenses and 2.5 pounds if M lenses. That's 70% of the weight of the K lenses, but the Ks are only an extra pound, and it's spread out over 5 lenses.
Re: Need flat bed scanner advise, pls.
The transparency light source on the 2450 is just over 4.5 inches wide, and 10.75 inches long, which means it will scan negs up to 4 x 5 quite happily - in fact it comes with a 4 x 5 carrier. It also has both Firewire and USB2 ports. Some people think Firewire operates faster than USB2 in practice, because the latter operates at variable speeds. The bed is 11.75 x 8.5. Regards John On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 07:47:02 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith. If the Epson 2450 is still available, go for that.It does negs,35mm 6x6 to 6x9 and 4x5.I am not infront of mine,but i think the glass will take an 81/2 x 11,or at least close to it.The light sourse in the lid is narrower,about 6 i think,wide. Its a pretty good unit. Dave With my new Mac, I now need a USB scanner, instead of my trusty Microtek Serial Port scanner. It's a shame to have to replace a perfectly good scanner, but. . . I was considering an Epson Perfection 3170. Any chance anyone here has one? Or, glowing words on some other flat bed scanner that will take 8 1/12 x 11 plus also scan negatives and prints? Take-home price limit about US$200. Thanks, keith whaley -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: M philosophy
Walnuts? You've lost me. John On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 20:22:59 -0500, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:17 PM 3/2/2004 +, John Forbes wrote: I'm not totally convinced by the anti-M arguments. First, a great many M lenses were identical optically to either the preceding K lens, or to the following A lens, so I don't think that in those (many) cases anybody can credibly claim that the Ks or As were better. I agree. If you look at the optical formulae on Boz's site, it's apparent that the majority of M lenses have the same optics as either the preceeding K lenses or the succeeding A lenses. After you factor out the lenses that were truly unique - like the 40 f2.8 and 150 f2.8 - there are only a handful of M lenses that have distinct optical designs and that can be compared to the K's or A's, Fifth, I don't think Cartier-Bresson ever used an SLR, but if he were to, I'd bet it would be an M camera with an M lens. And to my taste, CB beats pictorialists like AA hands down. I have a Canon T90 here, and I can imagine Catier-Bresson using it. Assume that CB likes walnuts, of course... :-0 - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com - -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: more M philosophy
If you are having to crop heavily there is an argument that you were using the wrong lens. However, I do understand that in a high-pressure situation you have to work with what you've got. John On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 00:50:20 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, as has been pointed out elsewhere, one of the attractions of the Pentax system is the petite construction of both cameras and lenses, compared to competing products from Leitz, Zeiss, Nikon and Canon. I'll concede this, at least in certain eras. M and A series cameras are smaller and lighter than the contemporary cameras from makers you mention above, although perhaps no smaller than later Minolta or Olympus OM which appear to have competed for the same market segment as Pentax. K series and very recent Pentaxes are more similar to contemporary consumer Nikons and Canons in weight. Leitz and Zeiss of course have always offered a premium product--Aston Martins aren't lightweight either. I'll also suggest that the M and A series cameras are less capable and less durable than the heavier cameras made by the other guys. This isn't an issue if you don't need the extra features or the tougher build. Interestingly, Minolta and Olympus are the other two camera brands that intrigue me, on the same basis as Pentax--good quality at very low prices. I've never considered Zeiss or Leitz. For me there is also a different mindset to using something small, simple, and competant for fun as opposed to the large, rugged, and spectacularly capable stuff I use for work. I'll still choose the heavier and slightly better K lens over the M if all else is equal. They are both an order of magnitude smaller and lighter than my pro stuff. Those who take pictures seated behind a tripod can choose a two-ton Canon lens without fear of the consequences, Most guys I know handhold their two-ton Canon lenses. Holding up the one-ton EOS1D cameras builds up their arm and back strength. but those who hand-hold their cameras, unless built like bears, value the light weight and small size of Pentax kit, especially the M lenses (and cameras). Honestly I find a heavier camera and lens to be stabler in handheld shooting, at least until it starts to wear on my arm. I've also really wondered how much REALLY smaller and lighter the M lenses are than the K lenses. At the extreme focal lengths it is quite noticeable--the Ms weigh about half as much. In the more normal focal length range they weigh about 75% of what the comparable K lens weighs. My ideal 20/28/50/105/200 kit weighs about 3.5 pounds if K lenses and 2.5 pounds if M lenses. That's 70% of the weight of the K lenses, but the Ks are only an extra pound, and it's spread out over 5 lenses. Third, if you have to use a loupe to discern the difference between two lenses, then you've surely missed the point. We don't view pictures under microscopes (most of us, anyway), and if the difference is only microscopic, then it's not a real difference at all. I rarely intend a 36x24mm negative to be the final product of my photography. If you crop heavily or make big enlargements that small quality difference starts to stand out. I can see the differences in quality between my 70-210/4 and 70-200/2.8 in a photo sized to run 6 3/8 wide in the newspaper, although they don't show on the roughly film-sized screen on the back of my D1h. I'm not saying that all Ks outperform the Ms like this, but that I do see noticeable effects of lens quality in my normal work without having to drag out the loupe. Fourth, if a lens will fit in a pocket, it's more likely to be there on the scene when you need it than if it's a huge, heavy beast that needs its own trolley. I agree that some combination of F8 and be there and have a camera with you are most of the secret to great journalistic-type photographs. If a lighter camera and lens makes you more likely to carry it then it is a good thing. It is relative, however. I just replaced a motor-driven Nikon F2 with a Nikkormat EL as my kickaround camera because I wanted a smaller, lighter camera. The EL is probably heavier than any Pentax SLR ever made. DJE -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Which cameras use 3/8? Do the Pentax 645 or 6x7 use them? Hassleblad? 4x5 view cameras? - Original Message - Many LF bodies have the thread adapter so that they'll fit on either thread size. Rolleiflex TLRs have the thread adapter in place as well. Come to think of the, the common Vivitar camera grip has the adapter in both the handle and camera bolt to allow connection to either thread on the bottom side. My B/M monopod has the 1/4 thread inside a spring-loaded 3/8 thread so no adapter is needed. Collin
PAW:Colour version
Sorry people,I omitted a digit.This should be allright' http://www.pbase.com/image/26549659 Regards and apologies. Chris K
Re: those 150s
I'd disagree ... terrible distortion and the long and short ends, soft at the extremes as well. It's really more like a 90mm ~ 135mm or so, as far as I'm concerned. Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Hi! I think a nice alternative to the 150/3.5 or the longer 85-205 zooms is the M 75-150/4. I had this lens, used it extensively, and it's an excellent performer even wide open, as good as primes. And it's small. Only drawback is the push-pull zoom, which is worse for tripod use when it can slip. Frantisek
Re: more M philosophy
Hi Bob ... For me it's different. I love the way the K lenses look, fit, and handle on the MX, especially the wide angle optics. I like the balance as well ... As for zooms, don't forget that little jewel, the M 24~35, and a lot of people like the M75~150. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The K lenses are a bit bigger and a better fit on the KM, KX, K2, K1000. For the ME and MX, you want the smaller lenses as part of the matching kit.
Re: F 70-210 question
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, John Forbes wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:16:10 +0300, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . I guess this is how MZ-6 spoiled me. It can take aperture if the lens if off A position and it can also set aperture electronically. So can the Super A, for that matter, and most of the better cameras that followed it. Getting confused now. Can the Super A tell you the aperture on the viewfinder when used in Manual or Aperture Priority? Can the MZ-6 do that? I don't think the MZ-5n can; it displays dashes instead. The MZ-50 can do that, but it can only really do it when using a lens with an A setting, at the A setting. Kostas
Re: more M philosophy
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: As for zooms, don't forget that little jewel, the M 24~35, and a lot of people like the M75~150. And the M80-200/4.5, which is said to be sharper than the M200/4 at 200. Although I had the 75-150, I bought the 80-200 instead of the prime when I needed a 200. Kostas
Concerning Epson 2450 scanners
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Speaking of scams...
I received two responses to some items that I was selling on a classified listing at a musicians web site. Both were offering to send me a cashiers check for $3,000 more than I was asking with the instructions that I deduct the amount of the item and deliver the balance to the delivery service that the buyer would send to my house to pick up the item for shipping to London. I e-mailed the webmaster of the site and he replied that the buyer would be sending me a fraudulent check that would bounce sometime after my equipment was picked up. Not only would I be out the money from the sale but also the extra $3,000 I gave the courier. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
Re: Da Lens -- here yesterday, gone today
Graywolf wrote: My understanding from the area Pentax Rep is that Pentax no longer warehouses things. They come off the assembly line, are shipped to the distribution center in the Philippines, and are shipped out directly to dealers from distributors orders. Usually within 24 hours or so. That kind of means that they go in fits and starts as they dribble in until the pipeline is full then they kind of keep moving along until the item is discontinued and orders are no longer filled. Thanks for the clarification. I don't know much about such matters, but see a problem with trying to save costs by this strategy. After the initial production surge for a new product, eventually the market becomes saturated and demand tapers off. It tapers off, but doesn't go away, because there are new users, and established users who take a while to decide on a product. So this means that without warehousing, production must continue either at a low level, or in fits and starts. Either approach raises unit costs. Economies of scale are lost. In the fits-and-starts approach, there must be a reduction in quality, because the assemblers lose and then must regain experience with the product. Warranty costs increase. What am I not understanding here? Of course the standard approach today is to save a dollar now even if it costs ten dollars tomorrow. Somewhere, I presume, some economist has figured out the relative value of a dollar saved today versus ten dollars spent tomorrow. All this, of course, discounts customer satisfaction. I guess we'll see the same fiasco when the DA 14 debuts. Joe
Re: F 70-210 question
Kostas, My MZ-6 shows actual aperture of the lens in the viewfinder when I half depress the shutter. The lens has to be A, F, or FA. It does not matter which aperture is set - the correct value would be shown, no matter the ring is at A or at some numeric setting. HTH. Boris
Re: PAW: This ain't cute, it's ART, dammit, ART
Very cute kitty! I prefer mine with complete ears Ken Waller -Original Message- From: John Mustarde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PAW: This ain't cute, it's ART, dammit, ART Art the cat, that is. Wait a minute - oops, this one is Ragamuffin, they are moving in so fast I can't keep the names straight. http://www.photolin.com/misc/P-011c.jpg Hand held with the Pentax F* 300/4.5, about minimum focus distance, 1/150 f6, and AF500FTZ bounced in TTL mode. One of my first *istD photos, shot as I was sitting at the computer figuring out the controls. I love making the background go black, this one utilizes the dark fireplace to help it along. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Semi-OT: Photography in Montréal
I have a trip to Montréal late this month and early April. This is my first time there, and I had thought to take along the starkistdee and photograph historic architecture and neighborhoods. The web sites I've looked at, though, tout modern skyscrapers. Do I have an incorrect impression of the city? Are there still historic architecture/neighborhoods? Tourism web sites certainly don't discuss them very much. Can someone who is familiar with Montréal let me know if it is worthwhile taking the camera? Tips on where to go and what time of day would be great. Of course the weather will probably be wrong. Oh, well. Thanks, Joe
Re: F 70-210 question
The MZ-5n (and MZ-M) will do the same with AF lenses. With A lenses, it will show dashes as Kostas said. There will be aperture information only when set to A. I am not sure about F lenses (I don't currently own any), but I guess it will be the same as AF. Regards, Jaume --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kostas, My MZ-6 shows actual aperture of the lens in the viewfinder when I half depress the shutter. The lens has to be A, F, or FA. It does not matter which aperture is set - the correct value would be shown, no matter the ring is at A or at some numeric setting. HTH. Boris __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com
PAW - Irvine Regional Park Railroad
http://www.pbase.com/image/4921882 Comments and suggestions very much appreciated. My first PAW. Thanks. Francis __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com
Re: F 70-210 question
Hi! With A lenses, it will show dashes as Kostas said. There will be aperture information only when set to A. My mistake. Sorry. Boris
Re: more M philosophy
Shel Belinkoff a écrit : Hi Bob ... For me it's different. I love the way the K lenses look, fit, and handle on the MX, especially the wide angle optics. I like the balance as well ... The most representative M philosophy: MX + M 2.8/40 Pancake or *ist D + M 2.8/40 Pancake
Re: more M philosophy
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: The most representative M philosophy: MX + M 2.8/40 Pancake or *ist D + M 2.8/40 Pancake I don't think so. The Pancake was an extreme case, making a statement, is my retrospective understanding. Kostas
A prodigal returns
Hi there all you pentaxers, it must be a few years since I last subscibed to the list, but a meeting with Clive and the iminent arrival of a istD have prompted me to return to the fold. Looking forward reading the many and varied opinions, ideas, moans and groans Happy days from (wet and windy) Devon, UK, Tom ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
Re: PAW: This ain't cute, it's ART, dammit, ART
This is a very fine cat picture. It's cute, but it's also very well done. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAW:Colour version
Hi Chris ... This version looks better in color than it did in BW. That may be in part because the BW version wasn't true BW, but a conversion from color. That doesn't always work well because the tonalities don't always convert well. Plus, if you did a simple greyscale conversion in some editing software, the conversion usually ends up being a pretty pale compromise. Depending on the software, other methods besides a simple conversion can be used with superior results. Another problem for me was the tilted verticals and that slash of green on the left side of the pic. The green adds nothing to the image, and, at worst, detracts from the sleeping man. I cropped the pic and put it up here. See what you think. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/man.html shel Chris wrote: Sorry people,I omitted a digit.This should be allright' http://www.pbase.com/image/26549659 Regards and apologies. Chris K
Re: Semi-OT: Photography in Montréal
Joe. Take the camera,two even.LOL There are many old areas in the city,well worth a click or two.The old area,Mount Royal,its also a subway stop,is very nice. Andre Lavigne is in Montreal i think,so hopfully he can assist Dave I have a trip to Montréal late this month and early April. This is my first time there, and I had thought to take along the starkistdee and photograph historic architecture and neighborhoods. The web sites I've looked at, though, tout modern skyscrapers. Do I have an incorrect impression of the city? Are there still historic architecture/neighborhoods? Tourism web sites certainly don't discuss them very much. Can someone who is familiar with Montréal let me know if it is worthwhile taking the camera? Tips on where to go and what time of day would be great. Of course the weather will probably be wrong. Oh, well. Thanks, Joe
Re: Windows eye candy was Re: *istD, Muvo-2 and Hitachi 4gb Microdrive
I have XP.Whats this eye candy i can turn off.I'd like to see my machine run fastergMy ME machines are quicker than my XP one. Dave Eye candy is something worth looking at. In XP it's not. Nick Clark wrote: You can easily turn off the 'eye candy' in XP. Makes it run faster too!
Re: follow through
Hi! Comments inside g... ein Given almost two days off I've finally gotten some stuff done. ein Firstly, I think I have a web site up at: ein http://rocky.itasca.net/~edwin I spent some today browsing through it. You have one heck of equipment collection... ein Mostly to provide, as shel suggested, some examples of how I shoot. I wish I could shoot even remotely as good as you g... ein I'm not looking for any public feedback on these pix--PDML is busy ein enough already with PUG and PAW discussion! Do let me know if stuff ein simply doesn't work. Everything seemed to work for me from my office desktop PC - Win2000, some IE... ein I'm thinking based on my own browsing of the website that I might have to ein run a script on the server to compress the pix a little more and get the ein file sizes down. A rule of thumb I am trying to follow on my site is that a single picture file shouldn't be larger than 100 K, preferably 70 K. ein That'll give me a nice travel kit of K30/2.8, M50/2.0, and M150/3.5, ein although I'm still casting about for a second camera solution for ein travel (to back up the LX. I've got a K2 and can borrow a ZX-M or as many ein Super Programs or ME supers as I want, but I'm looking at a PZ-1P or ein another LX). I'd still love to have a 20mm with this kit, but it's ein an FA 20/2.8 OR a second camera that I trust (or a Nikon 1.4x AF ein teleconverter...) After I got this wonderful F 70-210 lens, I have a kit that would fit in my small photo-bag and that I think would do quite nicely: K24, FA 50/1.7, F70-210 plus my ZX-L. If a had a bit larger bag, I'd put in my F 85 soft for fun. Boris
Re: #1 Rule in Photography-was: PAW: Above the clouds
Hi! Frank, since Mike Johnston does not seem to come here any more and because his response to similar question some time ago I liked the most, I'd think I repeat it in my words of course. (Man, this Leo Tolstoy's style - one sentence - three lines keeps haunting me...) Anyway, Mike's advise was to care with your heart about your photography... Makes sense? Boris
Re: Ms vs zooms
DJE, Boz's site lists lots of Pentax zooms, but my recollection is the M40-80 was the first in the M lens line. Later some bigger, heavier, constant aperture zooms came out...ending with the A28-135/4. I recognize that some pre-M zooms like the 135-600mm existed. As for the screwmount stuff, I'm reading from old US promotional literature listing available SMC lenses for your ESII. Regards, Bob S. Quote from my original followed by DJE comment: Pentax was selling a full lens line and eschewing zooms, but getting killed at the camera counter by Vivitar and their zoom lenses. The sales point was always 'inferior zoom' sharpness. Eventually Pentax relented and added Zooms, but for a long time only the M zoom was the 40-80mm and that was introduced as by Pentax with an 'apology' on quality. The KEH catalog that is currently open next to me lists the 24-35, 75-150, 80-200, 35-70, and 28-50 M zooms as well. I'm not sure there were any K zooms that were not simply updated screw-mounts.
Re: Concerning Epson 2450 scanners
Epson also has the 3200 refurbished for $299 with free shipping. Mine should be here tomorrow. :-D - MCC At 10:44 AM 3/3/2004 -0500, you wrote: Though this might be useful. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductQuickSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yesoid=21245805category=Clearance+Center - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: PAW: This ain't cute, it's ART, dammit, ART
Hi! JM Art the cat, that is. Wait a minute - oops, this one is Ragamuffin, JM they are moving in so fast I can't keep the names straight. JM http://www.photolin.com/misc/P-011c.jpg JM Hand held with the Pentax F* 300/4.5, about minimum focus distance, JM 1/150 f6, and AF500FTZ bounced in TTL mode. One of my first *istD JM photos, shot as I was sitting at the computer figuring out the JM controls. I love making the background go black, this one utilizes JM the dark fireplace to help it along. John, please let us know your technique of hypnotizing... Some of us may have very good honorable ways to put it in use... grin Boris
Re: PAW: a lucky shot
Great find, Herb - maybe he'll be back! - MCC At 09:04 PM 3/2/2004 -0500, you wrote: i was driving by on my way to explore some woods near my place when i looked out over the ice on the nearby bay and saw this immature bald eagle eating the fish it had caught. i wish i had one of my good lenses with me. this is the center section of the *istD image taken with the FA 80-320 f4.5-5.6 at 320mm. i managed to get 24 shots before some people scared it away. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/ Herb... - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: PAW - Irvine Regional Park Railroad
Nice shot - I really like the way the tracks curve through the frame and the way the lines of the station and railroad cars fall into a parallel arrangement. The train engine is also very nicely lit. Exposure seems to be right on. The vent on the roof directly above the engine's smoke-stack is a little distracting, but then the lines formed by the two roof vent's shadows converge with the tracks as they exit the frame, which adds to the already tight exposure. In any case - I doubt if there was much you could do about the roof vent! All in all - great shot! - MCC At 08:14 AM 3/3/2004 -0800, you wrote: http://www.pbase.com/image/4921882 Comments and suggestions very much appreciated. My first PAW. Thanks. Francis - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
At 04:32 AM 3/3/2004 -0800, John Mustarde wrote: Why not build a gimbal just for high-angle shooting? Seems like a few hardware store items and angle iron would do the trick. I'm sure I saw a home-made one on a web search awhile ago. Plus I think there is a cheap gimbal ($50) out there somewhere, maybe even Bogen. Bogen has the 3421 gimbal head, BH lists it at $152. Possibly the best buy in a gimbal. - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: M philosophy
At 02:24 PM 3/3/2004 +, you wrote: Walnuts? You've lost me. John I think the T-90 would be an excellent walnut shell cracker. Though it might pulverize them too much. - MCC I have a Canon T90 here, and I can imagine Catier-Bresson using it. Assume that CB likes walnuts, of course... :-0 - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: PAW - Irvine Regional Park Railroad
Hi! FA http://www.pbase.com/image/4921882 FA Comments and suggestions very much appreciated. My FA first PAW. I don't know what to say. My first reaction is - what a matter of factly shot... I think you shot it close to midday. The amount of shades and almost totally white areas seems to support this theory... It is an odd shot. It neither works, nor it does not... It just is... My cents, nothing more. Boris
Sold Out
This year's GFM Nature Photo Weekend is sold out. Bill
Re: anti-M arguments
This M thread keeps jumping from a subject to another! As this one is still hot, may I clarify one point: First, a great many M lenses were identical optically to either the preceding K lens, or to the following A lens, so I don't think that in those (many) cases anybody can credibly claim that the Ks or As were better. I agree. If you look at the optical formulae on Boz's site, it's apparent that the majority of M lenses have the same optics as either the preceeding K lenses or the succeeding A lenses. After you factor out the lenses that were truly unique - like the 40 f2.8 and 150 f2.8 - there are only a handful of M lenses that have distinct optical designs and that can be compared to the K's or A's, That K-series lenses share a lot with subsequent M and A-series is a myth. For their M cameras, Asahi practically redesigned its whole array of prime lenses. Only the two macro f4 lenses (50mm and 100mm) and the 400/5.6 have retained their optical formula while going from K to M. All other M lenses were new designs! Some M lenses have the same focal lenght and aperture than their K counterparts but have a different number of elements: 20/4, 28/3.5, 28/2, 35/2, 120/2.8, 135/3.5, 200/4, 300*/4. Other M lenses have either a new focal lenght (100/2.8) or a new maximum aperture (35/2.8, 85/2, 150/3.5). These have either a different number of elements (35, 85), of groups (100) or a different optical pattern (150). The 50/1.7 has both a new focal lenght and a new maximum aperture. It shares the 55/1.8 pattern (like most 1.7 and 1.8 normal lenses for SLR) but, to reduce costs, the doublet in the M lens has a flat joint instead of a curved one. The M50/1.4 is also a new design. It shares the same basic optical pattern as the K50/1.4 (like practically all 50/1.4s) but shows differences in the form of some elements (shape, thickness, curve) and the space between some of them. It kept the curved joint in its doublet. (The M50/1.4 lens was again modified to give the A version.) New sub-thread... The A philosophy took from both K and M philosophy. From K because non-M lenses were offered as A lenses (15/3.5, 24/2.8, 50/1.2) while new A lenses were designed without portability in mind (85/1.4, 135/1.8, and the long 2.8 guns). From M because many M lenses made it to the A-series without any modification (28/2, 28/2.8ii, 35/2, 35/2.8, 50/1.7, 100/2.8, 100/4 macro, 300*/4) while some of the new lenses were small and light (20/2.8, 50/2.8 macro, 135/2.8, 200/4, 400/5.6). My interest in philosophy dropped when the F lenses appeared as the zoom lens became the new paradigm... Andre
Re: One very wild weekend...
Hi! Tanya, you're brave yet unfortunate. Let's hope that you would have less reasons to write such stories to the PDML, shall we? Thanks for sharing... Suddenly my habit of handholding my shots appears not so bad after all... I wish you better luck next time! Boris
Re: Sold Out
In a message dated 3/3/2004 11:32:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This year's GFM Nature Photo Weekend is sold out. Bill Boy, I made in just in time! Whew! Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: GUI ugliness (no longer about 4gb microdrives)
Hi, I think the TeleTubbies interface epithet belongs to the Mac. Those animated toolbar icons are *far* cheesier than anything from XP. I cannot get over the XP search interface which has a stupid animated dog scratching the ground. This is in an interface labelled 'Professional'. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Ms vs zooms.
Eventually Pentax relented and added Zooms, but for a long time only the M zoom was the 40-80mm and that was introduced as by Pentax with an 'apology' on quality. I'm not sure there were any K zooms that were not simply updated screw-mounts. Zoom chronology: Mid 75. K bodies and lenses appear. The 45-125, the 85-210/4.5 and the 135-600/6.7 were SMC Takumar zooms fitted with K mount. The 85-210 got auto aperture as a bonus. Photokina 76 (end of 76). First M bodies and lenses are presented. 35-70 and 28-50 prototypes The first new K-mount zoom to appear was the huge (and rare) 85-210mm f3.5 in oct 1976. Dropped after less than a year. Spring 78: 28-50 and 80-200 are available (non-M) 35-70 and 24-35 prototypes Spring 79: M35-70 is available (2 versions, one being fixed 2.8 AF) M28-50 and M80-200 (same as non-M) Later in 79: M40-80, M24-35 (78-11), M75-150 80-04: M24-50 prototype Etc... Andre
Re: 30 vs 31?
Long story - I'll try to keep it short. I bought the 31mm, decided I had no reason to keep both. So I offered the 30mm for sale. Person A bought it, Person B was also interested. Person A received the lens, decided to return it and wait for one in better condition. Person A then agreed to send it directly to Person B to see if he would want it. It was sent but never arrived. After many months it just recently got back to Person A marked as undeliverable. I will see Person A soon, I will retrieve the lens, and quite promptly send it on to Person B. If he also decides that he would rather wait for one in better condition, then I'll have it back here more permanently. Moral of the story - clearly mark your return address on packages - it may help a wayward lens find its way back into friendly hands. Stan Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Stan, Why the short reunion? Cesar Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:40 AM Ask me again in a month. My 30mm and 31mm will be reunited, if only for a few days, and this time I WILL take some comparison shots. Stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiousity, can anyone speak from experience about the relative optical performance of the K30/2.8 and the FA limited 31? The 31 is of course faster, and has A and AF functions, plus you can buy one pretty much any time from NY dealers. I'd be tempted, but I've got a K30 and my tests (I haven't had much chance to SHOOT with it) show it to be a superb performer, decreasing the appeal of the FA 31. On a related note, I understand that M150/3.5 and M100/2.8 are generally held to be inferior to K150/4.0 and K105/2.8 (both screw-mount designs, from what I can tell). Unfortunately, the M lenses are cheapish and easy to come by, and the K lenses aren't. I'm particularly curious about the M150/3.5 as an alternative to hauling an M80-210/4.5 or K135/2.5 (better, but bigger) to England next year. DJE
Re: PAW: a lucky shot
Probably trying to save the fish.g Very nice capture Herb. Keep that on your 'must return' sites. Dave i was driving by on my way to explore some woods near my place when i looked out over the ice on the nearby bay and saw this immature bald eagle eating the fish it had caught. i wish i had one of my good lenses with me. this is the center section of the *istD image taken with the FA 80-320 f4.5-5.6 at 320mm. i managed to get 24 shots before some people scared it away. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/temp/ Herb...
clever virus attack
I just received the following from someone spoofing me. But it is very believable... --- Dear user of Stans-photography.info e-mail server gateway, Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions. For further details see the attach. For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is 16120. Have a good day, The Stans-photography.info team http://www.stans-photography.info I am sure you will all be happy to know that there is now a Stans-photography.info team I did not know that before either. Be careful - you can get hurt out there. Stan
Re: PAW Arizona Landscape
Great shot,Larry. The light is perfect,and the detail is all there. Dave Here's one I shot last summer. Again this was done with a Nikon Coolpix 5700 before I had my *istD. Going back in the spring to shoot this area again with the D. Comments welcome. http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65384/1/2589664/Original Larry from Prescott
Re: Just wanted to say...
On 2/3/04, STENQUIST PROMOTIONS disgorged: Now Tatiana is very close to Titania, who is, of course, the fairy queen in Midsummer Night's Dream. So I think that since our Tan is also fairy girl, Tanja is most fitting and proper. Not to mention very feminine and quite alluring. Paul Yeah, but how do you figure in the bony butt ? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads http://www.macads.co.uk
Re: clever virus attack
I got something similar also: Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. Bad spacing between words and the word ammount gave me a cue... Andre
RE: clever virus attack
Hi I got a similar one earlier today, saying my server had been out of order, because someone had tried to get unauthorized access to my email account. The funny thing is, the access code was the same and my mail have been out of order for a day or two!!! When I tried to open the atatched zip-file my virus program (Norton) stopped it! All the best Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 3. marts 2004 21:49 Til: PDML list Emne: clever virus attack I just received the following from someone spoofing me. But it is very believable... --- Dear user of Stans-photography.info e-mail server gateway, Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions. For further details see the attach. For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is 16120. Have a good day, The Stans-photography.info team http://www.stans-photography.info I am sure you will all be happy to know that there is now a Stans-photography.info team I did not know that before either. Be careful - you can get hurt out there. Stan
Re: clever virus attack (OT)
Something new (for me) that I got yesterday was an eBay spoof asking you to click on a link and update your personal info on eBay. What was new was that the text was mixed into a long string of garbage with some sort of HTML formatting that only showed the intended message. SO this: duringnourgreguiarwupdatekandbverificationmofztheoaccounts,ywelcouidn'tt verifynyourpcurrentvinformation.weitheriyourginformationmhashchangedcorp itsiscincomplete. aswauresult,eyourmaccessttofbidzorabuyloneebayahaslbeenirestricted.ctoxs tartbusingwebaybaccountgfully,xpieasehupdatesandjverifyoyoureinformation ibyzciicki! Showed up as During our regular update and verification of the account, we couldn't verify etc... Seemed really odd (I only noticed the string of garbage when I highlighted the message to send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wonder why they bothered to encode the message that way - I doubt it anti-virus or even spam software somehow would block the unscrambled message... - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: clever virus attack (OT)
today I got this message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear user of Mindspring.com, Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access. Advanced details can be found in attached file. Attached file is protected with the password for security reasons. Password is 16120. Cheers, The Mindspring.com team http://www.mindspring.com And it had a nice little .zip attached called readme.zip I didn't read it... Christian - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: clever virus attack (OT) Something new (for me) that I got yesterday was an eBay spoof asking you to click on a link and update your personal info on eBay. What was new was that the text was mixed into a long string of garbage with some sort of HTML formatting that only showed the intended message. SO this: duringnourgreguiarwupdatekandbverificationmofztheoaccounts,ywelcouidn'tt verifynyourpcurrentvinformation.weitheriyourginformationmhashchangedcorp itsiscincomplete. aswauresult,eyourmaccessttofbidzorabuyloneebayahaslbeenirestricted.ctoxs tartbusingwebaybaccountgfully,xpieasehupdatesandjverifyoyoureinformation ibyzciicki! Showed up as During our regular update and verification of the account, we couldn't verify etc... Seemed really odd (I only noticed the string of garbage when I highlighted the message to send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wonder why they bothered to encode the message that way - I doubt it anti-virus or even spam software somehow would block the unscrambled message... - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
FS: The Negative - book by Ansel Adams
Considered by many to be a must read book for anyone interested in doing BW photography. Wanted to offer it here before other venues. Details at: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/ebay/aa-negpd.html shel
RE: F 70-210 question
By the way, it's an excellent lens. Far better than the A version. I once tested it (the F) (portrait) against the A 2.8/135, the K 2.8/105mm and the M 2.0/85mm. The F 4-5.6/70-210mm came out best! I haven't tested it against the K2.5/135mm yet, but I beleive this one is even better (sharper). Regards Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 3. marts 2004 19:21 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: F 70-210 question Yes. Boris Liberman wrote: snip Is it correct that I can use this lens on my ME Super? I actually thought (how ignorant of me) that this wasn't possible. Probably wrong assumption all together. snip Thanks for your help. Boris
Re: Concerning Epson 2450 scanners
You're going to like it, even with 35mm film, but especially for those 6x7 negs and transparencies. Paul Mark Cassino wrote: Epson also has the 3200 refurbished for $299 with free shipping. Mine should be here tomorrow. :-D - MCC At 10:44 AM 3/3/2004 -0500, you wrote: Though this might be useful. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductQuickSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yesoid=21245805category=Clearance+Center - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: PAW: ChampCars at Brands Hatch 2003
On 3 Mar 2004 at 13:19, John Francis wrote: Here's a shot I couldn't submit to the PUG, because it was taken with a loaner Nikon D100. (This year I'll be back to using Pentax gear again). http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/BH720.jpg Great shot, however as it's presented the gamma appears unbalanced on my monitor. The shot appears more natural with a gamma shift from 1.0 to 1.3. Before this the white seemed too white compared to the overall illumination. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Just wanted to say...
Cotty wrote: On 2/3/04, STENQUIST PROMOTIONS disgorged: Now Tatiana is very close to Titania, who is, of course, the fairy queen in Midsummer Night's Dream. So I think that since our Tan is also fairy girl, Tanja is most fitting and proper. Not to mention very feminine and quite alluring. Paul Yeah, but how do you figure in the bony butt ? Cheers, Cotty I doubt that Tanja really has a bony butt. I'll bet she has a fairy nice fanny. But perhaps she'd prefer that we not discuss it here?
Semi-OT: Montréal Encore
Just my luck. Mail-Archive.com chose yesterday and today to off to la-la land again. If anyone had advice for me re: photography in Montréal, could I trouble you to resend it, this time to my home e-mail address? It is: jtainter at mindspring dot com Thanks, Joe
Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)
Got one too a few hours ago. Mark Dalal's email address noted as sender in the mailinfo (while the sender in my reader gave a noreply + my isp as sender). Whether it means Mark is infected, or just got his address stolen I don't know. (The same password that others reported). Just deleted it. My McAfee virus scan didn't find anything wrong with the attached Message.zip-file. Lasse At http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] where there is more info on it, says: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a worm that spreads by email and steals information from a user's machine. The email has the following characteristics: Subject: your account [random string] Attachment: message.zip The threat captures information from certain windows on a user's desktop and emails it to specific mail addresses. This threat takes advantage of known vulnerabilities: MS02-15 and MS03-14. A Microsoft patch is located at: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/critical/330994/default.asp. We encourage system administrators to apply the Microsoft patch to prevent infection by this worm. The worm is packed with UPX. Virus definitions with a version number of 50801r, also known as August 1, 2003 rev 18, or greater will detect this threat. Symantec Security Response has created a tool to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: clever virus attack (OT)
I got the same thing. It comes from email harvesters that found our email address on the PUG site. I traced it to some computer in Poland. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: today I got this message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear user of Mindspring.com, Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access. Advanced details can be found in attached file. Attached file is protected with the password for security reasons. Password is 16120. Cheers, The Mindspring.com team http://www.mindspring.com And it had a nice little .zip attached called readme.zip I didn't read it... Christian - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: Re: clever virus attack (OT) Something new (for me) that I got yesterday was an eBay spoof asking you to click on a link and update your personal info on eBay. What was new was that the text was mixed into a long string of garbage with some sort of HTML formatting that only showed the intended message. SO this: duringnourgreguiarwupdatekandbverificationmofztheoaccounts,ywelcouidn'tt verifynyourpcurrentvinformation.weitheriyourginformationmhashchangedcorp itsiscincomplete. aswauresult,eyourmaccessttofbidzorabuyloneebayahaslbeenirestricted.ctoxs tartbusingwebaybaccountgfully,xpieasehupdatesandjverifyoyoureinformation ibyzciicki! Showed up as During our regular update and verification of the account, we couldn't verify etc... Seemed really odd (I only noticed the string of garbage when I highlighted the message to send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I wonder why they bothered to encode the message that way - I doubt it anti-virus or even spam software somehow would block the unscrambled message... - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -
Re: clever virus attack
Hi, Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. Bad spacing between words and the word ammount gave me a cue... ...to say nothing of using 'amount' with a countable noun. Shocking! -- Cheers, Bob
Re: clever virus attack (OT)
Hi, I got the same thing. It comes from email harvesters that found our email address on the PUG site. I've just received 51 of them in one go, addressed to non-existent email addresses. Anything that ends '@ my domain name' is routed by my isp to a postmaster account. The spammers try out different things, like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' etc. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: clever virus attack (Att. Dalal)
Gee, I was thinking the same thing. If you want a client with a similar interface, try The Bat (www.ritlabs.com). I have had way fewer problems in general since getting away from MS Outlook Express. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, March 3, 2004, 3:36:11 PM, you wrote: MR Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I just went to the microsoft site to download the patch and discovered that it varies depending on the Outlook Express version you are running. This is fine, BUT, I am running Microsoft Outlook 2000 and it isn't indicated anywhere. Any idea what I should do? MR Get rid of Outhouse Express. MR http://www.pmail.com (It's free)
Re: Just wanted to say...
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, talk of my butt (and fanny, that is not a great term here in Aus, as Rob pointed out, lol!) is now officially OVER!!! Ok. I hear you. In that case I just unofficially want to point out that having your butt globally discussed is the ultimate sign of having hit stardom (see Kylie Minogue, remember Agnetha Fältskog of ABBA). I think you should add B.B. (as in bony butt) to your artist name - Tanya B.B. Mayer. (See B.B. King (blues boy I believe) ). lol, I promise you all, it isn't a very exciting topic, Say you... and I'd hate you all to be disappointed when you actually meet it at GFM... I hate you all and that meeting at GFM... tan. Not much of a tan yet, but working on it. Lasse -Original Message- From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just wanted to say... From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3 Mar 2004 at 17:00, Paul Stenquist wrote: I doubt that Tanja really has a bony butt. I'll bet she has a fairy nice fanny. But perhaps she'd prefer that we not discuss it here? See: http://www.users.bigpond.com/RandyMiller/Dictionary.htm :-) You mean me should discuss it? :-) Btw, did you notice one of Paul's misspelling of f for h above...? (Ok, ok, ok... so I couldn't resist. But I didn't start it. It was not me. g ) Lasse
Re: FS: The Negative - book by Ansel Adams
Shel Belinkoff jumped on the Hustings [EMAIL PROTECTED] and wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/ebay/aa-negpd.html I recently purchased a copy of this from ebay and found it to be the most informative photographic literature I have read. Whatever price you pay, you will will not be disappointed. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
RE: Just wanted to say...
LOL! now, a change of subject PUH-lease tan. -Original Message- From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just wanted to say... From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, talk of my butt (and fanny, that is not a great term here in Aus, as Rob pointed out, lol!) is now officially OVER!!! Ok. I hear you. In that case I just unofficially want to point out that having your butt globally discussed is the ultimate sign of having hit stardom (see Kylie Minogue, remember Agnetha Fältskog of ABBA). I think you should add B.B. (as in bony butt) to your artist name - Tanya B.B. Mayer. (See B.B. King (blues boy I believe) ). lol, I promise you all, it isn't a very exciting topic, Say you... and I'd hate you all to be disappointed when you actually meet it at GFM... I hate you all and that meeting at GFM... tan. Not much of a tan yet, but working on it. Lasse -Original Message- From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just wanted to say... From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3 Mar 2004 at 17:00, Paul Stenquist wrote: I doubt that Tanja really has a bony butt. I'll bet she has a fairy nice fanny. But perhaps she'd prefer that we not discuss it here? See: http://www.users.bigpond.com/RandyMiller/Dictionary.htm :-) You mean me should discuss it? :-) Btw, did you notice one of Paul's misspelling of f for h above...? (Ok, ok, ok... so I couldn't resist. But I didn't start it. It was not me. g ) Lasse
OT: Concert pix
Some of you may recall that I was going to be shooting a friend of mine in concert last weekend. And, so I did. Got back the contacts today, and I'm mostly okay with them - not a real high yield, but the lighting was horrendous, and the LX was having trouble dealing with some situations. I was shooting Fuji Neopan 1600 at 3200, and I'm happy with the way that the film turned out. The best shots, exposure-wise, were these portrait-type ones, where her face filled much of the frame - I think that made it easier for the LX to figure the exposure. There were a couple of wider shots where I took a couple, one after the other, and I could hear that one of the exposures were ~real~ long - the meter said it was 1/60th, but the actual exposure sounded much more like 1/15th, and the over-exposed contact said maybe I was right. Then, the next shot, made immediately after, was fine. But, with such harsh lighting, I guess that's to be expected. That's why I shot 3 rolls. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2180846size=lg Don't forget, scanned from contact sheet - the neg actually looks pretty sharp, and has more detail and shading. I think the prints will be okay. Taken with the Takumar Bayonet 2.5 135mm (the dog g) wide open, hand held on auto. Also got back several rolls from the ice race - which I probably won't scan from the contact, but we'll see what prints I get. I'm pretty happy with those. Plus, got back a roll of APX 100 that I went street shooting with, and I'm picking up an 8x10 that will be my PAW tomorrow. I love getting back lots of film all at once. I know that digital gives it back immediately, but the anticipation of film is wonderful! vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Just wanted to say...
Uhhh, since I cannot possibly attend the meet, perhaps some one can take a photo (just for the record) of the item in question and submit it for perusal? Many thanks! keith whaley * * * Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Ok, talk of my butt (and fanny, that is not a great term here in Aus, as Rob pointed out, lol!) is now officially OVER!!! lol, I promise you all, it isn't a very exciting topic, and I'd hate you all to be disappointed when you actually meet it at GFM... tan. -Original Message- From: Lasse Karlsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just wanted to say... From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3 Mar 2004 at 17:00, Paul Stenquist wrote: I doubt that Tanja really has a bony butt. I'll bet she has a fairy nice fanny. But perhaps she'd prefer that we not discuss it here? [...]
Re: Semi OT: Heavy Tripod Head Support
Don't think I'd know the first thing about building a gimbal, though the idea sounds fairly intruiging to me. I'll have to look around for instructions . . . if you happen to see the instructions again John, I'd appreciate a link. IL Bill On Wednesday, March 3, 2004, at 06:32 AM, John Mustarde wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:54:21 -0600, you wrote: John, I do realize at horizontal that the 3265 head performs nicely with the 3 kg lens, however, I'm not shooting horizontally due to the high incidence of 'things' in the way of the moon (trees, houses, etc). Consequently I have to shoot at angles greater than 30 degrees much of the time. The tension adjustment is a good point though . . . very nice, when shooting at higher angles I had it dialed up all the way though :-( Why not build a gimbal just for high-angle shooting? Seems like a few hardware store items and angle iron would do the trick. I'm sure I saw a home-made one on a web search awhile ago. Plus I think there is a cheap gimbal ($50) out there somewhere, maybe even Bogen. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: #1 Rule in Photography-was: PAW: Above the clouds
Boris, I can't disagree with either you or Mike. Caring with all your heart will make the difference between a good photo and a great one. Or between a mediocre photo and a good one. But, all the caring in the world will not produce anything but a memory in your brain, if you don't have a camera with you to capture the moment. That's the only point I was trying to make. No Camera, No Piccies. I suppose that one can extrapolate a bit, and say that caring with all your heart will give one the drive to improve technique, learn how to utilize the equipment to the best of one's ability, and, yes, to give one the impetous to have a camera at the ready more often than not. But, at some point we get a bit remote, don't we? The reality is, that sometimes, a bad photographer takes a great shot. It may be dumb luck, but it happens. That isn't about caring. It's about being there with a camera. I know, however, what you and Mike mean, and again, I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment, just the order one would put it in. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: #1 Rule in Photography-was: PAW: Above the clouds Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:28:05 +0200 Hi! Frank, since Mike Johnston does not seem to come here any more and because his response to similar question some time ago I liked the most, I'd think I repeat it in my words of course. (Man, this Leo Tolstoy's style - one sentence - three lines keeps haunting me...) Anyway, Mike's advise was to care with your heart about your photography... Makes sense? Boris _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: *istD - little jewel!
Yeah, That 10D was humungous! I know it's capable of taking wonderful photos, but I bet your back was sore lugging that thing around Toronto all day! vbg BTW, proper paying job? Do they exist? vbg cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *istD - little jewel! Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 18:26:54 -0500 I happened to call into Henrys today. The counter where I was standing also happened to have an istD on display. Well, I just had to have a feel. That thing is gorgeous! It makes me wish I'd stuck to my original plan of selling the 10D once the istD came out and getting one. Sigh. That 10D is a humungous brick in comparison. Only one thing I didn't much care for was the round arrow/keypad thingy on the back. That was a bit fiddly, but apart from that, I loved it! Ho hum, I can but dream. Got to get a proper paying job first. Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: A prodigal returns
I used to own a Devon Rex (breed of cat). It's name's Phantom, and the ex got it in the divorce. Well, not really, I left it there, you know, for the kids and all. But, I digress (as I often do...). Welcome back, Tom. I seem to recall you from my early days on the list. If you've been lurking, you'll know that there's plenty of *istD and digital talk these days. I don't have one (and am unlikely to for some time - see previous post about proper paying job g), but many here seem thrilled with theirs - or maybe they're just thrilled that Pentax finally came out with a DSLR! g Glad to see ya back in the fold. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Keith WHALEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A prodigal returns Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 08:59:15 -0800 Hi Tom! Welcome back among us! You're getting an *istD? Wonderful! Ah, Devon. . .been a couple of years, maybe more, since i was in that part of the country! Lovely part it is, too! g Let us know when the -D arrives! keith whaley Tom Addison wrote: Hi there all you pentaxers, it must be a few years since I last subscibed to the list, but a meeting with Clive and the iminent arrival of a istD have prompted me to return to the fold. Looking forward reading the many and varied opinions, ideas, moans and groans Happy days from (wet and windy) Devon, UK, Tom _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
RE: are crabs not glamorous?
Personally, I think it's sad that people think that they can find fulfillment or make some sort of artistic statment by placing fuzzy fake animals or animal parts on their heads. vbg -frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: are crabs not glamorous? Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 23:46:18 -0600 (CST) Does your model know she has a crab on her head? http://www.itasca.net/~edwin/imgp0244.html Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com It's a bit of an in joke in some ways, but it was also a bit of rebellion against standard glamor and an attempt to see what happened when an incongruous element was added. She said it was a bit interesting to try to do a glamor pose as if the crab was not there when it is so prevalent visually. In fact, it is also the case that I wanted to include some of the shots done without the diffusion filter and the crab sequence was some of the better of the sharp shots. DJE _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: clever virus attack
We got a bunch of these at work allegedly from our admin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but again they were spoofed addresses. After you've been around email for a while you get a pretty good feel about which are legit and which aren't. chris On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Stan Halpin wrote: I just received the following from someone spoofing me. But it is very believable... --- Dear user of Stans-photography.info e-mail server gateway, Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account. Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions. For further details see the attach. For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is 16120. Have a good day, The Stans-photography.info team http://www.stans-photography.info I am sure you will all be happy to know that there is now a Stans-photography.info team I did not know that before either. Be careful - you can get hurt out there. Stan
Tanja's Butt; Was: Re: Just wanted to say...
I'm sure you meant bonny, not bony, right? ;) chris On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Cotty wrote: On 2/3/04, STENQUIST PROMOTIONS disgorged: Now Tatiana is very close to Titania, who is, of course, the fairy queen in Midsummer Night's Dream. So I think that since our Tan is also fairy girl, Tanja is most fitting and proper. Not to mention very feminine and quite alluring. Paul Yeah, but how do you figure in the bony butt ? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads http://www.macads.co.uk
Re: Just wanted to say...
Kylie has a very nice face, but Agnetha is reeking class all the way. . . That reminded me to put on an ABBA recording. . . g keith whaley Lasse Karlsson wrote: From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, talk of my butt (and fanny, that is not a great term here in Aus, as Rob pointed out, lol!) is now officially OVER!!! Ok. I hear you. In that case I just unofficially want to point out that having your butt globally discussed is the ultimate sign of having hit stardom (see Kylie Minogue, remember Agnetha Fältskog of ABBA). I think you should add B.B. (as in bony butt) to your artist name - Tanya B.B. Mayer. (See B.B. King (blues boy I believe) ). lol, I promise you all, it isn't a very exciting topic, Say you... and I'd hate you all to be disappointed when you actually meet it at GFM... I hate you all and that meeting at GFM... tan. Not much of a tan yet, but working on it. Lasse
A few flash questions
1) Just got a mint Super Program in dirt cheap and everything seems to be fine, EXCEPT, my Metz (40MZ3i + SCA372) flash cannot sync with the camera whenever the lens is set to 'A'. It works fine when the lens is not set to 'A'. The same settings work fine with Z-1p. Is my Super Program faulty, or this is the limitation of the SCA372 adaptor? 2) Did I remember correctly that someone said AF360FGZ does TTL flash with LX? How about Super Program? I have gone through the manual (from the web) but could find no such info. It said Auto flash works with LX only, not TTL flash. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Name pronounciation was RE: Just wanted to say...
So, the big question... how do you pronounce it? I say see-zer in my head, but I'm sure that's way off. :) chris On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I have heard so many variations on my name over the years. And that is just my first name - we will not even go into my last name :-) But I do try to correct people when they first meet me. From that point on I don't try to be picky about it. I know they are referring to me. It almost identifies the circle of friends based on how they pronounce it. Though some still cannot get it right. And if we talk of family, I am known there as Abdul since my father is the one known as Cesar. It makes people remember you that is for sure as they try to get the name right. I do not believe it would traumatize any child by not Anglicizing the name. I am proud of my name for it comes from my grandmother. I never met her, but there is still my connection to her via my name. Most interesting is how certain people call me based on the language used... Cesar Panama City, Florida
