More on Argentina

2004-03-10 Thread Marvin Gandall
Im not that knowledgeable as others on this list about these matters,
but an interesting sidelight for me has been the reported role played by
the Bush administration which has, in effect, inadvertently (or perhaps
not so inadvertently) run interference for the Argentineans.

North American football fans will recognize this as the expression which
describes how big linemen clear the way for smaller running backs to
skirt past the opposition. The US doesnt reportedly want to see a big
IMF bailout of the banks; its Britain, Japan, and Italy who do. The
conservative Republicans apparently have decided to draw the line here
as concerns moral hazard  the breakdown of lending self-discipline by
the banks confident that governments and international financial
institutions (IFI's)like the IMF will always be there to bail them out
in the case of debt default.

Paul ONeil, the former Treasury Secretary, was keen that if the banks
wanted to speculate in risky emerging market debt, they should expect,
as speculators, to be subject to the discipline of the market without
expecting government/IFI relief. Leaving aside whether this is actually
how the system works, the Kirchner government has taken advantage of
this emergent US view to deepen the ideological split within the IMF.

The FT article I referred the list to yesterday quoted the Argentinas
economy minister Roberto Lavagna as follows: I agree that you must not
use the money of American plumbers and carpenters or German dentists to
bail out Argentina, Turkey or any other country. But if you take that
decision many other things have to happen too.

One of those things, he says, is that the world has to get used to
lower debt-recovery levels. the FT article continues. And quotes
Lavagna again: That is the reality. It was not Argentina's decision. It
was the US's, and it means we have to carry out a restructuring deal
with our own resources.

The opponents of the US line cite Lavagna's stance, of course, as an
example of how this approach just encourages defaults and bankruptcies
and debt reductions by poorer nations, knowing that theyre not going to
be subject to US heavy pressure to pay up. They say this ultimately puts
the big banks  and by extension the worlds financial system  at risk,
and these are simply too big to fail. The banks, of course, have
always used this Cassandra cry to their advantage.

Anyone else have any further information or special
insights to offer about this reported ideological split?

Todays FT report on Argentinas decision to pony up an IMF repayment,
as had mostly been expected, follows.

Marv Gandall


Argentina agrees to meet IMF debt deadline
By Adam Thomson
Financial Times
March 10 2004

Argentina on Tuesday agreed to make a $3.1bn payment to the
International Monetary Fund, narrowly avoiding what would have been the
biggest single default in the fund's history.The move broke a deadlock
between President Nstor Kirchner's government and the IMF.

Argentina is already in default with its private creditors after the
country stopped servicing almost $100bn of debt in December 2001.It is
expected IMF management will recommend that the fund's board members
formally approve Argentina's second review under the current standby
programme. Formal approval, expected within about two weeks, would
unlock funds about equivalent to yesterday's payment.

Argentine investors expressed relief at the agreement. The peso
strengthened against the dollar while Argentine stocks and bonds were
also higher. But there was no reaction in global markets, where some
kind of deal had been expected. Global markets have generally been
immune to this crisis, perhaps foolishly so, said Guillermo Estebanez,
emerging markets currency strategist at Banc of America Securities.

The agreement comes as the IMF searches for a new managing director
after Horst Khler, the fund's current head, resigned last week after he
was proposed as Germany's next president.Jean-Claude Juncker,
Luxembourg's prime minister, said on Tuesday he would back the
nomination of Rodrigo Rato, Spain's economy minister, to spearhead
global attempts to head off financial crises.

Details of how the IMF and Argentina broke the impasse were unclear on
Tuesday afternoon. But people close to the negotiations told the
Financial Times that Argentina had agreed to several IMF demands over
the country's treatment of its private creditors.

The most important of these is that Argentina should agree to enter
formal negotiations with its private creditors to restructure the
country's defaulted sovereign debt. Until now, Argentine authorities
have gone out of their way to avoid using the word negotiation and,
according to creditors, have done everything possible to delay the
process.

As part of the deal, Argentina will formally recognise the Global
Committee of Argentina Bondholders (GCAB), a group claiming to represent
institutional and retail investors holding about $37bn of defaulted
Argentine bonds

IMF-Argentina: from bully to weakling

2004-03-10 Thread Eubulides
Argentina helps keep up facade

By coming to a last-minute deal with Buenos Aires, the International
Monetary Fund has avoided showing how powerless it really is

Charlotte Denny and Larry Elliott
Thursday March 11, 2004
The Guardian

It was like a boxing match which goes to the final bell on Tuesday evening
in Washington as the two sides in the long drawn-out battle between
Argentina and the International Monetary Fund withdrew to their corners,
punchdrunk.

Both were telling the judges, the world's media, that they had won on
points. At almost the last moment, Argentina had stumped up the $3.1bn
(£1.7bn) it owed the Fund - on the face of it a victory for the
Washington-based lender, the country's last remaining financial lifeline.
But Buenos Aires said it had only signed the cheque after securing a
promise from the Fund of further lending without new and more stringent
conditions.

The strings the Fund was hoping to attach involved the $90bn Argentina
owes to private-sector creditors. The country has been offering to repay
just 25 cents in every dollar borrowed, an offer seen as unacceptable by
the IMF. Further lending, the Fund said, was conditional on Argentina
negotiating in good faith with its private-sector creditors.

Having slugged it out for days, at the post-match press conferences
yesterday it was time to kiss and make up. The last minute telephone call
from the IMF's acting director, Anne Krueger, to Argentina's president,
Nestor Kirchner which clinched the deal with just hours to go before the
deadline was cordial and respectful, a presidential spokesman said.

Both sides have made face-saving concessions. Argentina yesterday signed a
new agreement with the Fund, conceding to several of its demands over the
treatment of private creditors. The IMF said its agreement with Argentina
included a specific course of action for negotiations with creditor groups
and a tentative timetable for the talks.

Argentina's economy minister Roberto Lavagna made it clear however that
Argentina's September offer to repay private creditors 25 cents in the
dollar still stood. Tellingly, groups representing investors in
Argentinian debt were less impressed with the commitments the IMF has
secured on their behalf.

Argentina and the Fund are making the best fist of what is a situation
fraught with danger for both. Mr Kirchner has staked his reputation on
standing up to the IMF and had to take the fight to the wire in order to
maintain his populist credentials. But he had to weigh up the risks of
triggering the largest ever default to the Fund.

Failing to make its IMF payment would have relegated Argentina to the
bottom league of creditworthy countries, alongside Sudan, Zimbabwe and
Somalia, putting at risk future borrowing on world capital markets. When
Argentina defaulted to its private creditors in December 2001 it triggered
a financial crash during which the country's economy shrunk by a fifth.
The resulting political and social chaos saw four occupants of the
presidential palace in a month, unemployment of more than 20% and half of
Argentinians falling below the poverty line.

While the short-term impact would undoubtedly be painful, Mr Kirchner
could have gambled that the capital markets would eventually open their
lending books again to one of the world's most important developing
economies. The lesson from the Russian debt default in September 1998 is
that if a country is big enough, investors will come back. Capital
markets have short memories, admits one IMF official.

The Fund is usually portrayed as having the upper hand in negotiations.
Argentina's debts are, however, so big that a default would have a
damaging effect on the Fund's balance sheet. Of the $95bn in outstanding
loans to the Fund, Argentina accounts for 15%. The Fund says it would be
forced to charge other borrowers higher rates to make good its losses.
That threat seems unlikely to be realised, given that two other countries,
Brazil and Turkey, account for a further 57% of its loans portfolio.
Higher borrowing charges would risk tipping two more countries into
default. More likely the Fund would have to turn to its major
shareholders, the rich countries of the west, for a cash injection.

For the Fund, the confrontation with Argentina risked exposing the
confidence trick on which its role as the world's financial fireman has
been built. In reality, there is not enough money in its coffers to rescue
a country facing imminent bankruptcy, which is why the Asian countries
burnt by the series of financial crises of the late 1990s have decided to
build up their own foreign exchange reserves instead. Argentina did the
Fund a favour by not unmasking the illusion.

But in the long term, the only solution is a proper mechanism for sharing
the burden of dealing with sovereign bankruptcies more equally between the
stakeholders, as Ms Krueger has argued. When she first advanced the plan,
just months before Argentina spiralled into crisis in late 2001

Argentina v IMF: another round of the game of chicken

2004-03-08 Thread Eubulides
Argentina and IMF in duel over $3.1bn loan

Larry Elliott and Charlotte Denny
Tuesday March 9, 2004
The Guardian

Argentina was last night on a collision course with the International
Monetary Fund after the heavily indebted Latin American country signalled
it was preparing to default on a $3.1bn (£1.7bn) payment to the
Washington-based lender.

In the biggest trial of strength between the fund and a debtor country in
the fifty-year history of the global lender, the crisis will come to a
head today when Buenos Aires must decide whether to pay the fund.

The dispute is not really over the $3.1bn - the fund promised last October
to rollover its outstanding loans to the country, so Argentina does not
have to make any net repayments this year to Washington.

Argentina also owes $90bn to banks and private investors in Europe and
North America. It has made no payments on these debts since December 2001,
and the fund is insisting the country negotiates a fair deal with its
private creditors before extending its credit line.

I don't think Argentina is going to pay us without there being a
commitment from us and the board will not give it that, an IMF source
told Reuters last week.

So, Argentina has a choice: to pay us and take their chances or continue
playing hardball. Latin America's second largest economy is only just
recovering from a slump caused by following the fund's advice throughout
the 1990s, but is now being pressed by its private sector creditors to
start making repayments on its enormous debt.

So seriously is Buenos Aires taking these threats that President Nestor
Kirchner cancelled a trip to Europe earlier this year on his official jet,
Tango One, afraid it could be seized as collateral by aggrieved
bondholders.

Mr Kirchner is taking a huge gamble. His stance is winning applause from
Argentina's hardpressed population, but the confrontation with the fund
could end in the country becoming a financial pariah. Argentina has been
living in a false honeymoon, paying no interest, but the creditors are
banging on the door, said Professor Marcus Miller of Warwick University.

Mr Kirchner and economy minister Roberto Lavagna have offered creditors
25¢ in the dollar. Any more, they argue, would force them to cut spending
on schools and hospitals. The creditors are demanding 65¢ in the dollar
and say Argentina can afford to pay them, now the country is enjoying
healthy growth.

Discussions between the two sides have been deep frozen for months, but
the departure last week of the IMF's managing director Horst Köhler is
likely to bring the crisis to a head. Standing in as acting chief is Anne
Krueger, the fund's deputy director, who is likely to take an
uncompromising line over how much Argentina can afford to pay.

Ms Krueger's tough love stance is receiving backing from some of the
fund's leading shareholders, the rich countries of the West. The issue has
already split the group of seven industrialised countries: in a rare
revolt against the rest of the G7, Britain, Italy and Japan all abstained
from rolling over Argentina's lending programme last January.

There are three possible ways out of the current impasse: either Argentina
capitulates and offers creditors a better deal; the fund backs down and
continues its lending programme despite Buenos Aires's intransigence or a
compromise is agreed.

Prof Miller says the impasse could be resolved without harming Argentina's
recovery. Buenos Aires should float new bonds with returns linked to the
performance of its economy to repay its creditors. If the economy grows
strongly over the next few years, creditors will get a slice of the action
without starving other parts of the economy.

Argentina likes the idea of growth linked bonds but Mr Kirchner has
ratcheted up the rhetoric so it will be difficult give creditors a break.
For the fund, however, Argentina's defiance raises the ultimate spectre: a
domino effect of defaulters that could bankrupt it.


Re: Argentina:; protection rackets and busted binaries

2004-01-25 Thread Michael Perelman
Politicians almost invariably disappoint me, failing to meet even my new
expectations.  Kirschner may be an exception.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Argentina:; protection rackets and busted binaries

2004-01-24 Thread Eubulides
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/
In Argentina, the law and lawless seen to merge
By Reed Lindsay, Globe Correspondent, 1/24/2004

BUENOS AIRES - Police Corporal Mariano Lewicki has made a habit of looking
over his shoulder. Seated in an upscale cafe in a suburb north of Buenos
Aires, the 31-year-old glanced nervously at passing waiters and a handful
of other customers.

In the past three years, he said, he has been knifed on a train,
threatened at gunpoint in his house, and beaten and burned with cigarettes
in a police station. Such is the price one pays for turning on one of the
most powerful criminal organizations in Argentina: maldita policia,
literally ``the damned police,'' a network of corrupt officers that
patrols the dense urban sprawl in Buenos Aires Province, which surrounds
the capital.

In April 2000, Lewicki blew the whistle on a ranking officer, whom he
suspected of masterminding a bank robbery. Within two weeks, Lewicki was
charged with driving a stolen car, suspended indefinitely from the police
force, and thrown in jail for two months.

The band of corrupt police is the biggest mafia in the country,''
according to Ricardo Ragendorfer, who has written two books on the abuses
of the Buenos Aires provincial police.

The police profit from every crime in the penal code. The narcotics
police deal drugs, the police in charge of auto thefts steal cars, the
police that deal with robberies rob, and so on,'' Ragendorfer said. ``In
other countries in Latin America, parts of the police force are on mafia
payrolls. Here, it's the other way around.''

Not even the president, it seems, is immune from the gangster-like tactics
of the corrupt officers.

Within days of publicly accusing the Buenos Aires provincial police of
complicity in a recent spate of kidnappings, President Nestor Kirchner
told reporters that his family had received threats.

Kirchner has coasted relatively unscathed through his first eight months
as president of this crisis-torn nation, winning popular support by
leading an assault on an entrenched political elite dominated by his own
Peronist party.

But analysts say his attack on corruption in the Buenos Aires provincial
police could be his riskiest initiative yet. The move also threatens to
unleash a power struggle within the political party that brought Kirchner
to the presidency and that, until now, has provided him with critical
support.

The profits the provincial police receive from rake-offs and direct
participation in criminal activities provide a major source of funding for
the Peronist party, the dominant force in Argentine politics, according to
former police officers and political analysts.

For the first time since Kirchner assumed the presidency, a rift appears
to have developed between him and former president Eduardo Duhalde, a
Peronist who once called the Buenos Aires provincial police ``the best in
the world'' while governor of the province in the 1990s.

Most of the province's 14 million people and around half of its 46,000
police officers are concentrated in the suburbs of Buenos Aires, a vast
urban area with triple the capital's population. Once an industrial belt,
the area is now a slum-strewn haven for organized crime that has been
swept by a spate of headline-grabbing kidnappings.

The abductions, unabated crime, and poverty have provoked protests and
marred Kirchner's efforts to convince a wary public that Argentina is
finally recovering from the worst economic depression in its history.

Analysts say the protests have served as a wake-up call for the new
administration, which has assigned blame to the very police force charged
with fighting the kidnappers.

``In the majority of the kidnappings, police have been discovered, and
many times, police from Buenos Aires Province,'' Kirchner said in
November. ``Argentines are waiting for a profound purging of that police
force.'' He added: ``If 10 have to go, then 10 will go. If 100 have to go,
then 100 will go.''

According to Marcelo Sain, former deputy minister of security in the
province of Buenos Aires, the provincial police have been profiting from
illegal activities such as prostitution, gambling, quack medicine, and
other miscellaneous, nonviolent crimes for decades. But since the 1990s,
the police have become increasingly involved in violent crimes, such as
drug trafficking, kidnappings, car thefts, and armed robberies.

The police have also been accused of recurring human rights abuses,
including tortures, extrajudicial executions, and the unnecessary
shootings of suspected criminals as well as innocent bystanders, a
practice dubbed ``easy trigger.''

The provincial police force is technically under the purview of Governor
Felipe Sola, a Peronist, not the president. But Kirchner has nonetheless
made his influence felt.

Last month, Sola accepted the resignation of his security chief, who was
seen as a political ally of Duhalde and as an opponent to reforming the
police force. The shake-up was interpreted

protection rackets redux; Argentina

2003-12-14 Thread Eubulides
[Los Angeles Times]
2000 Argentina Bribe Scandal Reopens After New Confession
By Héctor Tobar
Times Staff Writer
December 14, 2003

BUENOS AIRES - A congressional official's emotional confession in a report
published Saturday has reopened one of Argentina's most notorious
scandals, shedding light on the behind-the-scenes dealings that doomed a
president and set off years of political instability.

In an interview with Buenos Aires magazine TXT, former Senate Secretary
Mario Pontaquarto described how he personally delivered a $5-million bribe
to nine senators at the behest of President Fernando de la Rua in April
2000.

The money, Pontaquarto said, was provided from the Argentine intelligence
service's secret funds and delivered in two briefcases to senators of the
nation's dominant political parties, the Radicals and the Peronists.

I asked him why me, why couldn't someone else do this, Pontaquarto told
TXT, remembering the moment a senator told him he would be the go-between
delivering the money. But I didn't turn him down. They were telling me it
had to be done, the government needed it to be done.

Pontaquarto spoke to the magazine three weeks ago and repeated his story
late Friday to a judge investigating the case. He has been granted
immunity from prosecution, and the judge has called his testimony
convincing and very precise.

Several senators were named as defendants when the scandal first broke in
2000, but over the years all charges in the case had been dropped for lack
of evidence. The charges could be reinstated, however, as a result of the
new testimony.

The bribery allegations split De la Rua's ruling center-left coalition.
Frustrated with De la Rua's apparent unwillingness to pursue the case,
Vice President Carlos Alvarez resigned and his leftist Frepaso movement
left the government. The weakened De la Rua was himself forced from office
amid rioting and protest in December 2001.

The alleged bribes bought yes votes for a business-backed employment
reform law demanded by the International Monetary Fund but which faced
strong resistance from organized labor and its allies in the Argentine
Congress.

Elected president in 1999, De la Rua inherited a country that was burdened
with a growing public debt and was increasingly dependent on IMF loans.
The IMF insisted that Argentina implement reforms.

De la Rua denied Saturday that he authorized bribing anyone, calling the
accusations absolutely false. He accused current President Nestor
Kirchner's government of planting the story as part of a political
operation against him.

Kirchner's government announced that it has provided protection to
Pontaquarto - who says he fears for his life - and has helped his family
seek refuge abroad.

Presidential Cabinet chief Alberto Fernandez said Kirchner had been aware
of Pontaquarto's confession for several days before its publication.
Those who are responsible must fall, Fernandez said.

Pontaquarto was the highest-ranking bureaucrat in Congress, a 20-year
functionary who had won the trust of the legislature's many factions.
Despite media reports naming him as a likely conduit for the suspected
bribes, he had always denied involvement.

In the TXT interview published Saturday, he describes the bribery episode
as a cloak-and-dagger operation that included visits to the president's
office and to a vault inside the Argentine intelligence agency, known by
its Spanish initials, SIDE.

Argentina's powerful labor movement had been pressuring lawmakers for
months to vote against the law that, among other things, made it easier
for businesses to dismiss employees. Pontaquarto says that at that point,
he was summoned to the president's office for a meeting with a small group
of key senators.

Classical music was playing loudly in the background - apparently, the
president feared his office might be bugged, Pontaquarto said.

Something more was needed to pass the law, one of the senators said.

Arrange it with Santibanes, the president responded, referring to his
intelligence chief, Fernando de Santibanes.

A few weeks later, Pontaquarto was summoned to a meeting with the
intelligence chief. He was told to return later that evening to pick up
the money. Inside the vault, he was given two briefcases, Pontaquarto told
TXT.

After placing them in his car, he drove to Congress, a SIDE security
escort trailing behind him. But some complications arose, he said, and he
ended up hiding the money in his house for a few days before turning most
of it over to Sen. Emilio Cantarero, a Peronist.

Pontaquarto said he watched in the senator's apartment as the lawmaker
counted the bills. When he was done, Cantarero handed him a list detailing
how he and other Peronist senators would divvy up the bribes, Pontaquarto
said.

He told me to keep it as a receipt, Pontaquarto said, adding that he hid
it in a secure place. He said he delivered the second briefcase to
Radical Party Sen. Jose Genoud, then provisional president of the Senate.


Argentina: playing chicken

2003-12-11 Thread Eubulides
Who will blink first - Argentina or its creditors?
Reuters, 12.11.03, 10:22 AM ET
By Hugh Bronstein and Brian Winter

NEW YORK/BUENOS AIRES, Argentina, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Call it an $88
billion game of chicken.

On one side is Argentina, the proud and once-prosperous nation that two
years ago staged the biggest sovereign debt default in history. On the
other are the country's jilted bondholders, appalled by the government
saying it can repay no more than 25 cents on the dollar.

The investors, asking 65 cents for every dollar they lent, are forming a
global committee to negotiate a restructuring.

But, despite the assumptions that Wall Street makes about the way
defaulters must behave in order to reestablish credit, Argentina may go
forward with an offer sure to be rejected.

An increasingly impatient U.S. federal judge meanwhile says investors may
start trying to seize government property as early as February.

This will get very ugly for both sides unless they reach a solution
soon, said Ruben Pasquali, an economist for Mayoral brokerage in Buenos
Aires.

Argentine officials have stared down furious bondholders from Tokyo to New
York, and said that the offer on the table is not negotiable, arguing that
the first priority for the government's money is to shore up a country
that spiraled into poverty last year after its finances collapsed.

It may not be a bluff. President Nestor Kirchner, who took office in May,
is under political pressure at home to reach a deal that leaves
Argentina's economy enough breathing room to build on this year's
surprisingly brisk recovery.

Argentines see themselves as the victims here, said James Neilson, an
Argentine political analyst. Many people believe the default was
splendid, that the debt was somehow imposed on us and now we're free. It's
a bizarre cultural attitude.

I think Kirchner will be much tougher than anybody believes during the
(debt) restructuring, if only because he's popular and that's what most
Argentines want him to do. He may be perfectly serious when he says he's
not negotiating.

Wall Street has been left asking itself how Argentina can promote a
restructuring doomed to be rejected by investors.

One interpretation is that they are not particularly worried about
launching an exchange that will fail, said Abigail McKenna, a portfolio
manager at Morgan Stanley Investment Management and a member of the
steering committee of the Argentina Bondholders Committee.

The other possibility is that the government feels it needs to stand
tough on the terms until the last minute when a negotiation will
ultimately take place.

Argentina has said it wants to have the restructuring done by mid-2004. If
it drags on longer, Argentine banks holding debt will still not know the
worth of their assets, meaning credit will be scarce and the real economy
will start to fade.

Markets seem to think Argentina will eventually sweeten the deal, judging
by the fact bond prices are at about 27 cents on the dollar. That is above
the 25 cents implied in Argentina's current offer, even without factoring
in past-due interest payments and the risk of another default.

People seem to think this will eventually get worked out, Alberto
Bernal, analyst for IDEAGlobal, Bernal said. But it will be interesting
to see who makes the first move.

Copyright 2003, Reuters News Service


FW: Nestor on Blackout in Argentina

2003-08-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ian,

This is also an expropriation, as it comes from the A-LIST.
However, it is not shamless because I asked permission from one
of the moderators, who happens to be myself.

Sabri

+++


On Jan/Feb 1999, a blackout left between 1 and 3,000,000 people
(depending on the moment) without electric service across the
Central-Western area of Greater Buenos Aires --FOR 15 DAYS!

It was a particularly hot summer in usually very hot and wet
Buenos Aires summers. Don´t have the dead count handy. But there
were many. Sums paid for reparations were ridiculous.

The privatized electrical companies of Argentina were, during
those years, among the most profitable enterprises in the world.
But they obtained these profits not only from unbelievably high
prices (in dollars) but also from unconceivably anti-social
savings.

Of course, all the blame falls on the electrical companies after
privatization. In order to reap more profits, they simply had
reduced the levels of safety in the insulation within refurbished
(imported, of course...) transformers, against the warnings of
their own engineers and workers, many of who came from the
State-owned SEGBA which had been serving the area wonderfully
well for decades.

Black outs, PCB-ridden neighborhoods, dangerous above the ground
transformers that any car can crash into, plenty of accidents
with dead people falling in open or wrongly closed pits in the
distribution network, are some of the newly acquired boons that
Argentineans have obtained from privatizations.

It looks like many chickens are returning home to roost!

Sorry for all cdes. and friends in the Northeastern USA - Eastern
Canada area. In Buenos Aires, we know how it is like. Of course,
there will always be some technical explanation about a stroke
of lightning. Shit. You cannot save money on people´s everyday
energy needs.  A stroke of lightning cannot trigger such a
disaster. It simply can´t, unless the network is
underfit.

Lic. Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
I N D E C



Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
my feeling is that for a book to have a big impact, it has to fall on a fertile 
field. That is, the societal situation -- including the balance of class forces -- 
has to be such that people are looking for the kinds of ideas that the book presents. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




 -Original Message-
 From: Jurriaan Bendien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] What is to be done in Argentina
 
 
  do you think that writing a book can have that big an effect?
 
 Whether or not a book has a big effect, depends I think on numerous
 factors, and a publisher would affirm this:
 
 - its content and form
 - who wrote it
 - the life and doings of the author
 - the specific context it is written in, or written for
 - who it is written for
 - how the book is marketed
 - whether it is bought in order to read it, or for some other 
 reason or
 fashion (a book might have an effect which has nothing to do 
 with its real
 content, or it might sell lots of copies without its content 
 influencing
 anybody very much).
 
 I have commented on the anthropology of the uses of books as cultural
 artifacts already once before on Marxmail, referring to postmodernist
 culture. If you consider Marx's book Capital, it had very 
 little readership
 in the 19th century, and if it did, this owed more to Marx's political
 engagements or reputation probably. It became a hit in, of all places,
 Russia. Pamphlets or short books by Kautsky, Lafargue, 
 Engels, Mehring,
 Bebel, Jaures, Lenin etc. were far more popular, and there 
 were literally
 hundreds in that genre.
 
 Rosa Luxemburg, Isaac Deutscher and Ernest Mandel all 
 remarked upon the
 fact, that even among selfstyled Marxists in the 1920s, 
 Marx's magnum opus
 had mostly not been read beyond the first volume or extracts 
 thereof (it
 wasn't exactly holiday reading of course), never mind digested and
 understood. Only after the founding of the Marx-Engels Institute and
 subsequently the transformation of Marxism into a state 
 ideology, were large
 quantities of the book sold.
 
 To this day, communication theory remains a very much 
 under-researched topic
 in Marxist circles.
 
 References:
 Ernest Mandel, The place of Marxism in history
 Paul Dukes, October and the World
 
 (According to the Guiness book of records, the bestselling 
 book of all time
 is the Bible, the highest circulation magazine is the US 
 Parade, and the
 honour of the highest circulation attained by a newspaper went to
 Komsomolskaya Pravda selling just under 22 million copies in 1990.)
 



Forwarded from Nestor Gorojovsky (Argentina update)

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
INTRODUCTION

I owe the list a long posting on Argentinean politics. Rodríguez Saá, the 
Peronist candidate my own group supported critically during the campaign, 
seems to have been shattered by electoral defeat, and my silence may be 
understood as an indication that I have been shattered with my candidate.

Well, news on my shattering are greatly exaggerated (and if we are to 
listen to the hardest core of the imperialist press, even those on 
Rodríguez Saá's, but this is something I can´t discuss here now). As a 
result of my not being shattered at all, however, I am extremely busy, and 
IMHO a good report in English on the Argentinean situation in the last 
couple of months needs more than some minutes snatched off my employer´s time.

Today, I will give my views on Lou Pr.´s posting on what should be done in 
Argentina. But in order to answer, I will have to begin with some comments 
on the general political situation. Since no serious comment of it can fail 
being traced back to the April 27th election and the performance of 
Rodríguez Saá and his MNyP during the election and, particularly, AFTER it, 
in part at least, I am beginning to give my own account of what has 
happened here during these two eventful months.

THE GENERAL SETTING OF THE CURRENT SITUATION: A BOTCHED POST-ELECTORAL 
SITUATION FOR THE LEFT OF THE NATIONAL CAMP

During the Presidential campaign, and against the forebodings of many among 
his followers, Rodríguez Saá expected to arrive to a runoff with Menem and 
overwhelm him. There were times when he would even dream with a result on 
the first round that made the runoff unnecessary. He didn´t accept that 
there would exist a possibility not to be (at the very least) second after 
Menem, and April 27th, which left him out of the Great Game, took him 
completely unawares.

He felt it had been a terrible defeat, a veredict by the Argentinean 
people that they do not want our program now, and decided that for the 
time being, this is Kirchner time. He made many other mistakes, all of 
which in the end turned what was no defeat at all but a grand beginning 
into an actual -post-electoral- defeat.

The MNyP, in spite of many organizative and political shortcomings, in 
spite of the venomous attitude of the media, in spite of the relative 
desire for tranquility that had gained the spirit of the Argentinean masses 
once the worst exponents of neo-liberalism were ejected, managed to impose 
the agenda of the electoral debate, had been unable to beat the immense 
forces conjured up against it. But it had obtained a 15% of the vote for a 
hard, national-revolutionary set of immediate measures (not a general 
programme, but a hundred or so of concrete measures, sometimes even stating 
the date when they would be taken) in a very complex election where the 
strongly government-backed winner obtained 22%.

It would moreover be added that Kirchner got to the Presidency thanks to 
Rodríguez Saá. Without him, Duhalde would have chosen another, more 
moderate, candidate. In order to fight off the man of the default (more 
on this latter on), he had to strike an agreement with the most progressive 
of the mainstream Peronist candidates, a candidate who would have never got 
to Presidency without the MNyP on the streets.

Nothing of the above was enough, however, for Rodríguez Saá, and during the 
first two months after the elections he heaped mistake. That is why I 
stated above that he had not suffered was an _electoral_ defeat, but a 
_post-electoral_ (to a great deal self-inflicted) one. (Some day I hope I 
have the time to go on deeper on this issue, but today cannot do so: those 
who can read Spanish may have interesting insights through the debates 
collected on the Reconquista Popular archives). What really matters here is 
that the net result of Rodríguez Saá's self-injuring blunders was that no 
organized left-wing opposition to Kirchner has appeared _on the national 
camp_, and Kirchner´s first interesting signals won the attention of most 
of the anti-neoliberal voters in Argentina. This is the general setting of 
my reply to Lou´s observation on what is to be done.

THE WHAT IS TO BE DONE ISSUE: CAN THE LEFT OF THE ANTI-NATIONAL CAMP 
FARE BETTER?

Lou Proyect writes:

The more I read about Argentina, the more it appears that the political 
crisis on the left stems from the failure of the Marxist groups to rid 
themselves of sectarian and dogmatic habits. The challenge to the Marxist 
left seems to come primarily from autonomist and libertarian socialist 
figures like Adamovsky who fetishize localized forms of resistance. If you 
stop and think about it, the autonomist left has the same kind of 
micropolitical orientation that the Russian economist current had in the 
early 1900s. All Argentina needs is a few latter-day Lenins who can write a 
What is to be Done updated for the current struggle.

IMHO, this is partly accurate partly wrong.

First, the _accurate_ side. The failure

Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
All Argentina needs is a few latter-day Lenins who can write a What is to be Done 
updated for the current
struggle.

do you think that writing a book can have that big an effect?

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Doug Henwood wrote:
When I interviewed Naomi Klein, who spent most of the past year in
Argentina, she said that there were so many sectarian Trot parties
trying to tell the spontaneous mass assemblies what to do that they
turned lots of people off from politics. Instead of following the
vanguard into revolution, the masses went home.
Yeah, but Naomi Klein has little to offer Argentina herself. In a Nation 
Magazine article, she criticizes sectarian Trotskyist formations but she 
also says that autonomism is a problem as well:

Rather than challenge sectarian efforts at co-optation head-on, many 
of the assemblies and unemployed unions turned inward and declared 
themselves autonomous. While the parties' plans verged on scripture, 
some autonomists turned not having a plan into its own religion: So wary 
were they of co-optation any proposal to move from protest to policy was 
immediately suspect.

full: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030526s=klein

I think that Argentina does need a socialist revolution. It is too bad 
that this is not part of her vocabulary. In the final analysis, the 
global justice movement not only does not address the question of 
state power in a particular country, it is ideologically hostile to that 
sort of project.

I would recommend the astute James Petras for a balance sheet on Argentina:

While the unemployed workers movement initially proved promising in 
pressuring for jobs and funding for local projects, it soon confronted a 
series of serious problems. First the movement appealed to only a 
fraction of the unemployed workers  less than 10% of the 4 million. 
Secondly while the MTDs were quite militant, their demands continued to 
focus on the 150 peso a month public works contracts  there was little 
political depth or political-class consciousness beyond the leaders and 
their immediate followers. The assumption of many of the 
leftist-anarchist and Marxists was that the crises itself would 
radicalize the workers, or that the radical tactics of street 
blockages would automatically create a radical outlook. Particularly 
harmful in this regard were a small group of university students who 
propagated theories of spontaneous transformations based on not 
seeking political or state power but retaining local allegiances around 
small scale projects. Their guru, a British professor devoid of any 
experience with Argentine popular movements, provided an intellectual 
gloss to the practices of his local student followers. In practice, the 
deep structural problems persisted  and the new Duhalde government soon 
initiated a major effort to pacify the rebellious townships of 
unemployed workers, providing over 2 million job contracts for 6 
months, distributed by his loyal point men and women in the barrios. 
This move undercut the drawing power of the radical leaders of the MTD 
to extend their organizations and provided the Peronist party the 
organizational links to the poor and unemployed for future elections, 
particularly since the movement leaders rejected electoral politics and 
neglected any sort of political education. Over time most of the initial 
followers of the anarchist, spontaneist and no-power grouplets 
abandoned them for the Peronist-controlled unemployment committees.

full: http://www.rebelion.org/petras/english/030604petras.pdf

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Re: The Collapse of Argentina, part one

2003-08-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Santiago wrote:
Dear Mr. Proyect,

I came across your comment about a marxist explanation
about my country's collapse and I found it really
interesting. While studing for my degree in
International Trade I had the luck to have professors
of marxist thinking.
Santiago, I hope you don't mind if I reply to you on the listserv I
moderate, where my posts first appeared. I will leave off your last name in
the interest of privacy.
I think it will be hard to find a marxist explanation
to this country's collapse because I think that the
reasons that led this country to disaster had been
little discussed in Marxism. As Marx stated, to reach
socialism, a feudal society must become capitalist
first.
Well, not exactly. I would recommend Teodor Shanin's The Late Marx, which
discusses Marx's correspondence with Russian populists and socialists who
believed that a peasant based revolution could be a springboard for a
continent-wide assault on capitalism. In fact, he disassociated himself
from his more orthodox followers, including Plekhanov, who did believe
that capitalism was a prerequisite for socialism.

First of all I wouldn't say Argentina is a capitalist
country. I think it is a country that has been trying
to convert to capitalism without success for about 400
years. Socially Argentina can be divided in two parts:
Buenos Aires and Inland Argentina. During the Spanish
Empire, due to the leather trade (and smuggling)
Buenos Aires was a city where the bourgeoisie, not the
aristocracy, mattered. This fact was unique in the
Spanish Empire. As we know, to reach development a
country must change from a feudal society to a
capitalist one. Spain, the metropolis took 200 years
to complete that change, Buenos Aires was a trading,
proto-capitalist society already in 1800. To
illustrate this I will tell you that Buenos Aires in
spite of being a very marginal part of the Empire, at
the time of the Napoleonic Wars had the second
merchant navy of the Empire. The Spanish monopoly and
the feudal and low populated hinterland being major
obstacles for its development.
I imagine that I have a more rigorous definition of feudalism than you do.
I regard this as a system based on the circulation of use-values organized
around fiefdoms. Marc Bloch's studies of feudal society are a good place to
understand how class relationships were organized there. By contrast,
Spanish colonialism was organized around commodity production. Despite the
prevalence of forced labor of one sort or another, goods such as cattle,
wheat and cotton were produced for the world market. For an extended
analysis of these questions, I recommend a look at articles I have written
at: http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/economics.htm under the heading
Brenner thesis.
Today things have not changed a lot, although the
capitalist Argentina expanded towards northern
Buenos Aires Province and southern Santa Fe and
Cordoba, the rest of Argentina is still feudal. In a
feudal society the population work for the lord, in a
feudal Argentine province you will see that the
governor is responsible for most of the jobs: It may
be the most important landowner, he may be also the
owner of the most important produce-processing
industries and of course, he administrates the
provincial governement that is the local main
employer!. What about the other capitalists that
should participate in the government? They donnot
count: if they exist, their business activities depend
on the existing governor activities so they will be
part of the ruling party and will agree with any
decission that makes the governor's business prosper.
If there is any industrial investment it is surely
foreign (i.e. from a Buenos Aires industrialist or a
true foreign investor) and does not participates in
the local politics. Isn't this feudalism? (Just see
Carlos Menem, his province of origin (La Rioja) and
the ruling party, Peronista). This fight between
feudalism and capitalism has been the origin of the
civil war in 1820-1860. Although feudalism won the
war, it was Buenos Aires that effectively rule.
Being a semi-capitalist country, Argentina found its
way towards development until 1914. 1914 was the year
when universal sufrage was put into practice and was
the beginning of the retirement of the bourgeoisie
from politics.
Well, if you want to describe Argentine society as feudal, who am I to
stand in the way. Let's agree to disagree on definitions.
In any case, good luck with your studies. I know that graduate school can
be a real bitch.

I find a close relation between populism,
neo-feudalism and imperialism. The foreign capital
works with local caudillos who collaborate with
them, creating a symbiotic association that obstrucs
the upsurge of a local capitalist class which are
economic competitors for the foreign capital and the
political ones for the caudillo.
But how did this all originated? My answer is
Latifund, by creating such a dispair wealth
distribution it obstacles democracy and capitalism

Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-12 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
 do you think that writing a book can have that big an effect?

Whether or not a book has a big effect, depends I think on numerous
factors, and a publisher would affirm this:

- its content and form
- who wrote it
- the life and doings of the author
- the specific context it is written in, or written for
- who it is written for
- how the book is marketed
- whether it is bought in order to read it, or for some other reason or
fashion (a book might have an effect which has nothing to do with its real
content, or it might sell lots of copies without its content influencing
anybody very much).

I have commented on the anthropology of the uses of books as cultural
artifacts already once before on Marxmail, referring to postmodernist
culture. If you consider Marx's book Capital, it had very little readership
in the 19th century, and if it did, this owed more to Marx's political
engagements or reputation probably. It became a hit in, of all places,
Russia. Pamphlets or short books by Kautsky, Lafargue, Engels, Mehring,
Bebel, Jaures, Lenin etc. were far more popular, and there were literally
hundreds in that genre.

Rosa Luxemburg, Isaac Deutscher and Ernest Mandel all remarked upon the
fact, that even among selfstyled Marxists in the 1920s, Marx's magnum opus
had mostly not been read beyond the first volume or extracts thereof (it
wasn't exactly holiday reading of course), never mind digested and
understood. Only after the founding of the Marx-Engels Institute and
subsequently the transformation of Marxism into a state ideology, were large
quantities of the book sold.

To this day, communication theory remains a very much under-researched topic
in Marxist circles.

References:
Ernest Mandel, The place of Marxism in history
Paul Dukes, October and the World

(According to the Guiness book of records, the bestselling book of all time
is the Bible, the highest circulation magazine is the US Parade, and the
honour of the highest circulation attained by a newspaper went to
Komsomolskaya Pravda selling just under 22 million copies in 1990.)


Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-11 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote:

do you think that writing a book can have that big an effect?
When I interviewed Naomi Klein, who spent most of the past year in
Argentina, she said that there were so many sectarian Trot parties
trying to tell the spontaneous mass assemblies what to do that they
turned lots of people off from politics. Instead of following the
vanguard into revolution, the masses went home.
Doug


What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-10 Thread Louis Proyect
This is a snippet from a dialog between Z Magazine publisher Michael
Albert and Argentine radical Ezequiel Adamovsky at:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41ItemID=3995.
The more I read about Argentina, the more it appears that the political
crisis on the left stems from the failure of the Marxist groups to rid
themselves of sectarian and dogmatic habits. The challenge to the
Marxist left seems to come primarily from autonomist and libertarian
socialist figures like Adamovsky who fetishize localized forms of
resistance. If you stop and think about it, the autonomist left has the
same kind of micropolitical orientation that the Russian economist
current had in the early 1900s. All Argentina needs is a few latter-day
Lenins who can write a What is to be Done updated for the current
struggle.
===

Albert: You mentioned the existence of various Leninist, Trotskyism, and
otherwise old style parties with members interacting amidst all the
other undertakings. No doubt there have been serious frictions. Do you
think widespread clarity about rejecting coordinatorism, often called
market or centrally planned socialism, would have strengthened the more
participatory and democratic parts of the movement as against the more
centralized parts? Would the injunction that our projects should have
structures embodying our values and consistent with attaining our aims
have put pressure on the behavior and structures of these parties, do
you think, thereby helping contrary approaches?
Adamovsky: Without a doubt. In the experience of my Assembly, some
people had an initial prejudice against left wing parties, some others
had not. But in both cases, they would defend the autonomy and
horizontality of the Assembly against left wing coordinatorism, as you
call it. This was and still is a permanent issue in the meetings of most
Assemblies --I've just read an email from the Assembly of another
neighborhood, with the announcement that, after innumerable problems,
the members of the Trotskyite Partido Obrero were asked to leave the
Assembly and never come back!
As members of the Assembly resisted left coordinatorism, we came across
some texts and ideas that helped us gain awareness that non-hierarchical
strategies were possible and that, actually, the left is pretty much
divided about this issue all over the world. Undoubtedly, Parecon would
have had a similar influence. It would help more people to become
confident in our own non-hierarchical politics and in the principle that
the way we struggle today must look the way we want the future to look.
Means and ends cannot disagree.
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Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-05 Thread Michael Perelman
If there were a simple formula for making revolution, they would be more
frequent.  Many of the great revolutions would have seemed to be
relatively unlikely early on.  Castro began with a bungled raid.
Neither Lenin nor Mao had widespread support early in their
revolutionary activities.

My own sense of history is that things happen in very unexpected ways.
I wish that I understood such things better, but if they were that
understandable, people whom I would not like to have such understanding
would be sharing it and making ugly things happen.

I once asked Nestor about his situation in Argentina.  Downward mobility
seems a tragic understatement.  Under such conditions, I suspect most
people are worried about basic needs.  A revolutionary movement would
have to be able to touch their imagination and ignite their dwindling
hopes.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901


Re: What is to be done in Argentina

2003-08-05 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I would agree with that, but, pomo style, I cannot say in advance whether I
would deny it or not. I left out of my remarks explicit references to
bookreading as such. I think UNESCO publishes some statistics on it, but I
think they refer to books sold mainly which tells you very little. My
impression in Holland is that women read more published books than men, but
that men write marginally more than women. A feminist companion of mine, who
was a professional writer, said to me in 1990 that you should write a book
if you are convinced that it needs to be written, that it ought to be
written, and for no other reason.

J.

- Original Message -
From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] What is to be done in Argentina


 my feeling is that for a book to have a big impact, it has to fall on a
fertile field. That is, the societal situation -- including the balance of
class forces -- has to be such that people are looking for the kinds of
ideas that the book presents.

 
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




  -Original Message-
  From: Jurriaan Bendien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:05 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PEN-L] What is to be done in Argentina
 
 
   do you think that writing a book can have that big an effect?
 
  Whether or not a book has a big effect, depends I think on numerous
  factors, and a publisher would affirm this:
 
  - its content and form
  - who wrote it
  - the life and doings of the author
  - the specific context it is written in, or written for
  - who it is written for
  - how the book is marketed
  - whether it is bought in order to read it, or for some other
  reason or
  fashion (a book might have an effect which has nothing to do
  with its real
  content, or it might sell lots of copies without its content
  influencing
  anybody very much).
 
  I have commented on the anthropology of the uses of books as cultural
  artifacts already once before on Marxmail, referring to postmodernist
  culture. If you consider Marx's book Capital, it had very
  little readership
  in the 19th century, and if it did, this owed more to Marx's political
  engagements or reputation probably. It became a hit in, of all places,
  Russia. Pamphlets or short books by Kautsky, Lafargue,
  Engels, Mehring,
  Bebel, Jaures, Lenin etc. were far more popular, and there
  were literally
  hundreds in that genre.
 
  Rosa Luxemburg, Isaac Deutscher and Ernest Mandel all
  remarked upon the
  fact, that even among selfstyled Marxists in the 1920s,
  Marx's magnum opus
  had mostly not been read beyond the first volume or extracts
  thereof (it
  wasn't exactly holiday reading of course), never mind digested and
  understood. Only after the founding of the Marx-Engels Institute and
  subsequently the transformation of Marxism into a state
  ideology, were large
  quantities of the book sold.
 
  To this day, communication theory remains a very much
  under-researched topic
  in Marxist circles.
 
  References:
  Ernest Mandel, The place of Marxism in history
  Paul Dukes, October and the World
 
  (According to the Guiness book of records, the bestselling
  book of all time
  is the Bible, the highest circulation magazine is the US
  Parade, and the
  honour of the highest circulation attained by a newspaper went to
  Komsomolskaya Pravda selling just under 22 million copies in 1990.)
 




Wall Street's role in Argentina collapse

2003-08-03 Thread Louis Proyect
Argentina Didn't Fall on Its Own
Wall Street Pushed Debt Till the Last
By Paul Blustein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, August 3, 2003; Page A01
BUENOS AIRES -- Ah, the memories: Feasting on slabs of tender Argentine
steak. Skiing at a resort overlooking a shimmering lake in the Andes. And
late-night outings to a gentlemen's club in a posh Buenos Aires
neighborhood.
Such diversions awaited the investment bankers, brokers and money managers
who flocked to Argentina in the late 1990s. In those days, Wall Street
firms touted Argentina as one of the world's hottest economies as they
raked in fat fees for marketing the country's stocks and bonds.
Thus were sown the seeds of one of the most spectacular economic collapses
in modern history, a debacle in which Wall Street played a major role.
The fantasyland that Argentina represented for foreign financiers came to a
catastrophic end early last year, when the government defaulted on most of
its $141 billion debt and devalued the nation's currency. A wrenching
recession left well over a fifth of the labor force jobless and threw
millions into poverty.
An extensive review of the conduct of financial market players in Argentina
reveals Wall Street's complicity in those events. Investment bankers,
analysts and bond traders served their own interests when they pumped up
euphoria about the country's prospects, with disastrous results.
Big securities firms reaped nearly $1 billion in fees from underwriting
Argentine government bonds during the decade 1991-2001, and those firms'
analysts were generally the ones producing the most bullish and influential
reports on the country. Similar conflicts of interest involving analysts'
research have come to light in other flameouts of the bubble era, such as
Enron Corp. and WorldCom Inc. In Argentina's case, though, the injured
party was not a group of stockholders or 401(k) owners, it was South
America's second-largest country.
Other factors besides optimistic analyses impelled foreigners to pour funds
into Argentina with such reckless abandon as to make the eventual crash
more likely and more devastating. One was Wall Street's system for rating
the performance of mutual fund and pension fund managers, who were major
buyers of Argentine bonds. Bizarrely, the system rewarded investing in
emerging markets with the biggest debts -- and Argentina was often No. 1 on
that list during the 1990s.
Within the financial fraternity, some acknowledge that this behavior was a
major contributor to the downfall of a country that prided itself on
following free-market tenets. That is because the optimism emanating from
Wall Street, combined with the heavy inflow of money, made the Argentine
government comfortable issuing more and more bonds, driving its debt to
levels that would ultimately prove ruinous.
The time has come to do our mea culpa, Hans-Joerg Rudloff, chairman of
the executive committee at Barclays Capital, said at a conference of bank
and brokerage executives in London a few months ago. Argentina obviously
stands as much as Enron in showing that things have been done and said by
our industry which were realized at the time to be wrong, to be self-serving.
full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15438-2003Aug2.html

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Argentina: struggling for the emergence of workers control

2003-07-05 Thread Eubulides
[NY Times]
July 6, 2003
Workers in Argentina Take Charge of Abandoned Factories
By LARRY ROHTER


BUENOS AIRES, July 5 - The workers at the IMPA aluminum plant here all can remember 
when their
company was privately owned, and a few veterans even recall when it was the property 
of the
state. But these days, as the result of the worst economic crisis in the country's 
history, it
is the workers themselves who are the factory's stockholders and managers.

When the economy collapsed here 18 months ago, the situation was so bad that the 
owners of many
factories simply shut their doors and walked away, in most cases owing their employees 
months
and months of back pay. Rather than accept that situation, workers - backed by 
neighborhood
associations and left-wing groups enamored with the idea of people's capitalism - 
have
sometimes been able to persuade bankruptcy courts to let them take over the company's 
assets.

The only boss here now is the customer, said Plácido Peñarieta, one of nine 
employees at the
Chilavert Artes Gráficas cooperative, which prints art books and posters, calendars 
and concert
programs. We've learned to depend on ourselves and nobody else.

Across this nation of 37 million people, at least 160 factories employing an estimated 
10,000
people are now being run as cooperatives by their employees, ranging from a tractor 
factory in
Córdoba to a tile and ceramics plant in Patagonia. But the largest concentration is 
here in the
capital and its suburbs, where the nucleus of the country's industrial production is 
located.

With 172 workers making aluminum cans, foil and wrappers, IMPA is the largest of the 
so-called
retrieved factories here. Production is still far from the peaks of the 1990's, but 
since
workers took over with an initial 50 employees under contract, production has tripled, 
to 50
tons a month.

We could easily be turning out 90 tons a month, because we've got the orders but not 
the
working capital, said Guillermo Robledo, chosen by the workers to be the plant 
manager.
Instead, he added, we're in the ironic position of having to extend 60-day credit 
lines to our
customers, some of whom are large multinationals with much easier access to capital 
than a
workers' cooperative.

Like most of the cooperatives, this factory is run by an administrative council, whose 
members
are elected by the workers. Monthly assemblies are held to discuss issues like 
salaries - which
have nearly doubled since the low point as the economy collapsed - how many new 
workers to hire
and who they should be.

The IMPA workers have even voted to turn space that was not being used into a 
neighborhood
cultural and arts center.

The positive response to the cultural activities, said Eduardo Murúa, a leader of the
cooperative, provides an umbrella that prevents the banks from acting against us and 
has
gained the factory favorable publicity and financial support from the city government.

Faced with the loss of jobs and tax revenues, the municipality has sought to help by 
taking
legal title to abandoned or derelict factories and the machinery inside. Under new 
legislation,
it rents the premises to the workers' cooperatives and supports them in their efforts 
to
negotiate with creditors.

Our responsibility as elected representatives is clear, said Delia Bisutti, 
president of the
City Council's economic development commission and the main sponsor of the law. Given 
a choice
between bankruptcies, many of which are fraudulent and intended simply to loot assets, 
and
maintaining some job postings, we have moved to reduce the social costs of this awful 
crisis.

But with the Argentine economy - especially companies that export goods - finally 
showing some
signs of recovery, the original owners of some plants have resurfaced. That has led to 
legal
struggles with workers and, in one recent case, even violence.

In April, the police sought unsuccessfully to enforce a court order and evict workers 
from the
Brukman textile factory, a producer of men's suits, jackets and pants. The 56 
employees who
have been running the plant since the end of 2001, though owed wages, had not followed 
the
procedures established by the city ordinance to gain control. That provided a legal 
basis for
owners' complaints that they are merely trespassers and thieves.

At factories where ownership is not in dispute, the employee-managers confront other 
problems.
Initially, workers say, some longstanding suppliers and clients were reluctant to do 
business
with them, and even now, bank loans and supplier credits are nearly impossible to 
obtain.

It was difficult to get started because even though the company had a reputation, 
people did
not believe that we workers were capable of managing things, said Jorge Luján 
Gutiérrez, an
employee of the Chilavert print shop. We had to show that the high level of quality 
was still
intact and that the only thing missing was a few executives in the front office.

Workers

Argentina

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
IMF Chief Meets with Troubled Argentina
Reuters
Monday, June 23, 2003; 11:05 PM
By Hugh Bronstein

BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - The head of the International Monetary Fund began
talks with Argentina's President Nestor Kirchner Monday, as the country's
new government made a fresh start at pulling the economy out of its debt
crisis.

IMF Managing Director Horst Koehler also met Economy Minister Roberto
Lavagna, as well as bankers and businessmen.

The two-day meetings come 18 months after Argentina staged the world's
biggest debt default and were seen by Wall Street as a preliminary step in
the country's financial rehabilitation.

We would hope that the IMF encourages Argentina to move quickly on the
debt restructuring and presses upon the Argentine authorities the need to
make more of a fiscal effort, said Abigail McKenna, a portfolio manager
at Morgan Stanley Investment Management and member of the steering panel
of the Argentina Bondholders Committee.

As the meetings took place, several hundred protesters from left-wing
groups gathered in downtown Buenos Aires to protest Koehler's presence.
Some demonstrators burned a U.S. flag.

Officials in the government, the IMF and the United States -- the top IMF
shareholder -- have said the country would benefit from a long-term
lending deal to replace an intermediate accord set to expire in August.

But the Kirchner government is keen to protect its citizens from IMF-style
austerity after a four-year recession pushed millions of middle class
workers into poverty and joblessness.

Lavagna, under a previous government last year, engaged in a war of words
with the IMF over his softly-go-softly approach to austerity programs.

In a possible sign of progress, the government said on Monday it would
give state help to thousands of poor Argentines unable to make mortgage
payments. That may allow the government to end an emergency measure that
prevents banks from foreclosing on mortgages -- a measure that irked the
IMF.

With bond restructuring talks yet to start and the economy just beginning
to grow, expectations were muted as Koehler made the rounds in Buenos
Aires. Market players did not expect a new IMF program for Argentina to be
announced this week.

Koehler was expected to speak publicly about his trip late Tuesday
afternoon after meeting with legislators, provincial governors and Central
Bank chief Alfonso Prat Gay.

Considered a star pupil of free-market policies in the 1990s, Argentina
fell from grace with the IMF and United States after mismanagement led to
economic collapse at the end of 2001 when the country defaulted on $95
billion in debt.

The IMF drew heavy fire for its role in the crisis -- with many Argentines
saying their country made a major mistake by following the lender's
advice -- and for its failure to bail out the country. But six months ago,
the two sides managed to strike a $6.8-billion debt rollover deal, which
expires in August.

Latin America's No. 3 economy is one of the largest debtors to
multilateral lenders. Argentina owes $14 billion to the IMF and $31
billion to multilaterals as a whole.


The Good Life Is No More for Argentina

2003-02-18 Thread Louis Proyect
LA Times, Feb. 18, 2003

The Good Life Is No More for Argentina
The nation rode high on a free-market system, backed by the IMF and tied 
to the dollar. Then the global economy spun it into disaster.
By Héctor Tobar, Times Staff Writer

SAN ISIDRO, Argentina -- More than any other developing nation in the 
1990s, Argentina embraced the free market and the global economy.

For top officials at the International Monetary Fund and economic gurus 
of the American right, Argentina was a star pupil. It sold off most 
government enterprises and loosened banking restrictions and controls on 
foreign investment. The IMF backed the strategy with billions of dollars 
in loans.

For a few years, people lived better than ever. Many Argentines believed 
that their country, already the most prosperous in Latin America, was 
finally graduating into the First World.

Then, in December 2001, the bottom fell out, causing a run on the banks 
that wiped out billions of dollars in deposits.

Nearly six months later, on a May morning that happened to be her 59th 
birthday, Norma Albino stepped into her bank branch in this Buenos Aires 
suburb of cobblestone streets, famous for its affluence and the tall 
spires of its 100-year-old church. She asked — for the third or fourth 
time since December — for her family's money. When the teller told her 
that he couldn't help her, she blurted out: I'm going to kill myself.

As horrified bank employees looked on, she poured a bottle of rubbing 
alcohol over her head and snapped at a cigarette lighter.

Albino became, at that instant, a symbol of the rage and hurt smoldering 
inside millions of Argentines. Rushed to a hospital, she survived with 
third-degree burns. Months later, she has found that the best therapy is 
simply to forget.

The politicians robbed us, she said. But I don't care anymore. I try 
not to think about it.

Argentina's official unemployment rate stands at 22%, about the same as 
in the United States during the Great Depression. Poverty afflicts 53% 
of Argentines, triple the rate of just five years ago.
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Argentina

2003-02-18 Thread Devine, James
Title: Argentina





http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-fg-argecon18feb18001440,1,1676421.story 


The Good Life Is No More for Argentina
The nation rode high on a free-market system, backed by the IMF and tied to the dollar. Then the global economy spun it into disaster.

By Hector Tobar
Times Staff Writer

February 18, 2003/L.A. TIMES

SAN ISIDRO, Argentina -- More than any other developing nation in the 1990s, Argentina embraced the free market and the global economy.

For top officials at the International Monetary Fund and economic gurus of the American right, Argentina was a star pupil. It sold off most government enterprises and loosened banking restrictions and controls on foreign investment. The IMF backed the strategy with billions of dollars in loans.

For a few years, people lived better than ever. Many Argentines believed that their country, already the most prosperous in Latin America, was finally graduating into the First World.

Then, in December 2001, the bottom fell out, causing a run on the banks that wiped out billions of dollars in deposits.

Nearly six months later, on a May morning that happened to be her 59th birthday, Norma Albino stepped into her bank branch in this Buenos Aires suburb of cobblestone streets, famous for its affluence and the tall spires of its 100-year-old church. She asked -- for the third or fourth time since December -- for her family's money. When the teller told her that he couldn't help her, she blurted out: I'm going to kill myself.

As horrified bank employees looked on, she poured a bottle of rubbing alcohol over her head and snapped at a cigarette lighter.

Albino became, at that instant, a symbol of the rage and hurt smoldering inside millions of Argentines. Rushed to a hospital, she survived with third-degree burns. Months later, she has found that the best therapy is simply to forget.

The politicians robbed us, she said. But I don't care anymore. I try not to think about it.

Argentina's official unemployment rate stands at 22%, about the same as in the United States during the Great Depression. Poverty afflicts 53% of Argentines, triple the rate of just five years ago.

We're not the poorest country. There are places that are much worse off, said Raul Queimalinos, an unemployed economist and writer. What's hard for us is that we've known something better. We've lived well.

How Argentina came to suffer such a fall is an emblematic tale of the global economy's power to spur sudden prosperity in developing countries, and then, even more swiftly, to bring disaster.

It is never easy to apply the formulas of free markets to struggling countries, each with its own mix of politics and economic vulnerabilities. Some of the best candidates fail. In Argentina, corruption, political wrangling and a baroque system of public spending meant that reforms demanded by the IMF were never fully implemented. Over the course of a boom-and-bust decade, about $17 billion in IMF loans went largely to waste.

Several economists -- including Nobel Memorial Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz -- believe that the IMF based its policies on unrealistic expectations of Argentina's ability to reform and that it knew trouble was coming. Still, for a decade, the IMF endorsed Argentina's economic policies, giving a seal of approval that built confidence in its institutions. 

[[etc.]]


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IMF technical assistance advisor nabbed in Argentina

2003-02-17 Thread Tom Walker
IMF man facing graft charge bailed in Argentina
Reuters, 02.15.03, 5:45 PM ET

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (Reuters) - An International Monetary Fund employee, arrested 
on corruption charges linked to his stint as
Peru's economy chief under disgraced ex-President Alberto Fujimori, was freed on bail 
Saturday pending checks on whether he will
face extradition, a court official said.

Jorge Baca Campodonico, Peru's economy minister from June 1998 to January 1999, was 
arrested Thursday by Interpol on charges police
say are linked to Peru's ex-spy chief, Vladimiro Montesinos, in a case of misdirected 
public funds.

The IMF Friday voiced concern at the detention of its technical assistance adviser, 
who came to Buenos Aires as part of a mission
to review crisis-ravaged Argentina's fiscal accounts, and arranged legal 
representation for him.

He cannot leave the country, the court official said, adding Baca Campodonico had 
paid around $10,000 bail. The Federal Judge
overseeing the case was trying to ascertain whether he had diplomatic immunity.

Baca Campodonico is accused by Peruvian authorities of illegally enriching himself and 
violating the public's trust. An Argentine
federal police spokeswoman said after his arrest that he was linked to the corruption 
network of Vladimiro Montesinos.

Federal Judge Rodolfo Canicoba Corral said Friday Baca Campodonico had a U.N. 
passport, but added that did not necessarily mean he
had diplomatic immunity. IMF officials benefit from such immunity depending on their 
rank and the jobs they were carrying out, he
added.

The Argentine government, which has only just managed to clinch a deal to delay having 
to pay nearly $7 billion in debt it owes the
fund in coming months after a year of tortuous negotiations, has sought to distance 
itself from the arrest.

Copyright 2003, Reuters News Service

Tom Walker
604 255 4812




From Argentina, looking for Ambulance-Homicide Theory

2003-02-11 Thread marce
Dear members of Pen-L,

My name is Marcela Perelman, I live and work in Buenos Aires. I work at
Center for Social and Legal Studies (Centro de Estudios Legales y
Sociales/ CELS), an NGO with a large tradition in the fight for human
rights since last dictatorship.

I work for a program named Institutional Violence and Public Safety. I
have read about Anthony Harri's work on the Ambulance-Homicide Theory,
published by NYTimes last december 15th, I think (I haven´t seen the
article, though).

We are looking for information related to that theory.

Please, if anyone has the article or could tell me about it or think that
other material might be of my interest, I will greatly appreciate it.

Kind regards from the Southest South,

Marcela




Argentina

2003-01-13 Thread Ian Murray
washingtonpost.com
IMF Readying 'Transitional' Loan to Head Off Argentine Default


By Paul Blustein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 14, 2003; Page A07


More than a year after cutting off its lending to Argentina, the
International Monetary Fund is poised to grant a transitional loan to
the country, a move that is generating intense controversy because part
of the motivation is to stave off a threatened default by Buenos Aires
on its obligations to the IMF and other official institutions.

The loan could be approved by the IMF's executive board as early as
Friday, when Argentina is due to make a payment of about $1 billion to
the fund, although it might have to wait until next week, officials in
Washington and Buenos Aires said yesterday.

Argentine officials have been warning that in the absence of an IMF deal
they would refuse to make either the IMF payment or another $1 billion
owed this week to the World Bank and Inter-American Development Bank.
But one high-ranking official said the country will pay if we think
there is enough evidence that the IMF agreement is certain to be
finalized.

Terms of the loan, under which Argentina would get only enough to repay
about $3 billion it owes to the IMF between now and August, are still
being negotiated by IMF and Argentine officials. But the loan is drawing
criticism from private economists who worry that it may set a poor
precedent by showing that a default threat can force the fund to lend to
a country that hasn't spelled out a coherent plan for restoring growth
and stability.

Some IMF staff members share those concerns. According to sources
familiar with the situation, the loan is going forward at the insistence
of several powerful member countries of the IMF, notably the United
States, at least in part because of a desire to avoid the repercussions
of a big borrower's default to the multilateral lending institutions.

Both sides realize they have a lot to lose by failing to strike a
deal, said Kristin Forbes, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology and former official in the Bush administration's Treasury
Department. But at the same time, to just give more money, even if
there's a low chance that Argentina will do what is needed to recover,
is hard to justify.

The idea behind the loan is to tide over Argentina's crisis-stricken
economy until after a presidential election April 27. That makes sense
for the IMF politically, said Christian Stracke, head of
emerging-markets research at CreditSights, an independent credit
research firm, because it may help defuse mounting sentiment within the
country to sever ties completely with the fund and the international
financial system.

But economically, while Buenos Aires has made progress in getting its
budget and inflation under control, if you look at most of the reasons
why the IMF has resisted entering into an agreement over the past year,
most of those reasons still stand, Stracke said, citing as an example
the lack of a long-term plan to restructure the ailing banking system.
The IMF and its political masters just don't want Argentina to
default, he said.

Argentine officials hotly disputed those assessments. The agreement is
going to be far more ambitious than many people envisage, Guillermo
Nielsen, Argentina's finance secretary, said yesterday in a telephone
interview. He added that the country has a clear strategy for tackling
its major problems, including those of the banking system, as witnessed
by the fact that depositors have been returning funds to the banks after
fleeing in 2001.

An IMF spokesman said he could confirm that the talks are continuing
but have not been concluded. Tony Fratto, a Treasury Department
spokesman, said that we continue to encourage the fund and Argentina to
arrive at a short-term, transitional program, which would allow for
some breathing room for Argentina to continue making the reforms
necessary for them to move forward.

Already stagnating amid a long recession, Argentina's economy was sent
reeling early last year when the government, facing a financial panic,
abandoned the peg linking the peso to the U.S. dollar. It defaulted on
nearly $100 billion in debts owed mostly to commercial banks and private
bondholders.

The country's credit standing worsened even further in November when it
defaulted on all but a fraction of an $805 million payment due to the
World Bank; countries that default to the official institutions -- a
list that mostly includes failed states such as Somalia -- risk
becoming full-fledged international pariahs.

Securing an IMF loan could be Argentina's first step toward reversing
the deterioration in its creditworthiness, a step the government badly
wants to take because many of its exporters cannot get financing to ship
their goods abroad. Nielsen disclosed that this week, the government
will take another step toward restoring its foreign credit by naming a
short list of firms that may be selected as the government's

Greg Palast, Venezuela and Argentina: A Tale of Two Coups

2002-12-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Venezuela and Argentina: A Tale of Two Coups
New Internationalist Magazine
Sunday, July 7, 2002
by Greg Palast

The big business-led coup in Venezuela failed, where international 
finance's coup in Argentina has succeeded. Greg Palast gives us the 
inside track on two very different power-grabs.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=169row=1
--
Yoshie

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Argentina

2002-11-24 Thread Ian Murray
Child hunger deaths shock Argentina

Economic crisis sharpens poverty in world's fourth biggest food exporting
country

Hannah Baldock in Tucuman, Argentina
Monday November 25, 2002
The Guardian

Children are dying daily of malnutrition in Argentina as a result of the
catastrophic economic crisis in the world's fourth biggest exporter of food.

In the past week, images of stunted, emaciated children have scandalised
Argentina, long known as the grainstore of the world.

Meanwhile the vast, fertile country has increased exports of meat, wheat,
corn and soya this year.

Some of the children pictured in north-eastern Tucuman province had the
bloated stomachs, blotchy skin and dry hair associated with severe protein
deficiency.

The national charity Red Solidaria said that 60 children a month were being
taken to hospital with severe malnutrition, and 400 were being treated as
outpatients.

The Centre for Child Nutrition Studies, which advises the World Health
Organisation, has said 20% of children in Argentina are suffering from
malnutrition.

Dr Oscar Hillal, the deputy director of the children's hospital in Tucuman,
said: This is not Africa, this is Argentina, where there are 50 million
cattle and 39 million people - but where we have a government which is
totally out of touch with the people's needs.

In an astonishing admission, the production minister, Anibal Fernandez, last
week attributed the child deaths to a sick society and a ruling class that
are sons of bitches, all of them, myself included.

If not, this would not be happening, he said.

It is a chronic and cumulative problem. It has been going on for many years
and everyone has been turning a blind eye.

However, Chiche Duhalde, who is responsible for social programmes and is
also married to the president, shifted the blame on to the provincial
government for mismanaging social emergency programs.

We are not Biafra, she said, pledging to oversee an official search for
medical emergencies in the poorest provinces.

Five non-governmental organisations from Tucuman province last week filed a
legal suit against Tucuman's governor Julio Miranda for wilful neglect of
the children who have died of malnutrition in his province, where 64% of
people live in extreme poverty.

They accused him of diverting national funding for social programmes into
clientelism and corruption.

The organisations were supported by the archbishop of Tucuman, Hector
Villalba, who warned in a public address more than four months ago: Many
children are dying in the face of the inaction of the authorities, when the
human and technical means exist to avoid it. Mr Miranda himself attended
the meeting.

However, Tucuman is not the only province affected. It emerged this week
that 49 children have died in Misiones province this year, 23 in Santa Fe
and more in the poor northern provinces.

Some 450,000 jobs have been lost in Argentina since October last year,
leaving one in every five people unemployed, one in two living in poverty,
and one in four destitute. Salaries have lost 70% of their value and the
economy is shrinking at a rate of 14%, while inflation is running at 40%.

In Tucuman, parents admitted to feeding their babies and infants with sugary
green tea instead of milk or food, which they often cannot afford.

Four of the children who died there last week, aged between two and six,
weighed under 10kg.

Four or five pesos (£1) is the most that many people in the shanty towns can
scrape together from a day's labour.

I hardly had any breast milk said 24-year-old Roxana de Benedetti, whose
five-year-old son Hector died three weeks ago in Villa La Carmela, a shanty
town outside Tucuman, and whose six-month-old daughter Milagros, who weighs
only 2.8kg (just over 6lb), is in the children's hospital in Tucuman.

They told me I needed fortified milk powder, but it costs 10 pesos a box.
Thank God they'll give it to her in there.

The government has defaulted on an $805m (£500m) debt with the World Bank,
which will cut it off from $1.8bn extra aid earmarked for poverty relief and
social programmes.

It seems certain that any new deal with the IMF on debt repayments will be
conditional on severe belt-tightening by the provinces - meaning no new
social spending.




Argentina defaults on loan repayment

2002-11-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Are there any Argentines here who can comment on this? Sabri

++

Financial Times

Argentina defaults on loan repayment
By Alan Beattie in Washington
November 15 2002 0:29

The Argentine government on Thursday took the extraordinary step
of defaulting on a loan repayment to the World Bank, in a sign of
its intense frustration over negotiations with the bank's sister
institution, the International Monetary Fund.

The decision not to make a due payment of $805m places Argentina
in the company of countries such as Iraq, Zimbabwe and Liberia in
defaulting on loans from international institutions.

It makes Argentina ineligible for any new lending from the bank
or reductions in interest rates on outstanding loans.
Disbursements from existing loans, around $2bn of which has yet
to be paid, will also be stopped if the country does not pay
within 30 days.

Alfredo Atanasof, chief of the cabinet, said: The country's
level of reserves prevents it from paying the total of the quotas
that expire today. An interest payment of $79m would be made, he
said.

The World Bank confirmed it had received a partial payment. The
World Bank welcomes statements from government officials that
Argentina remains committed to rectifying the situation as soon
as possible.

Economists said the decision showed Argentina's determination to
raise the stakes in negotiations with the IMF.

The government wants to have its $13bn debt to the fund rolled
over until the end of next year.

The IMF said on Thursday that it would allow Argentina to defer
its next loan repayment, due on November 22.






IMF plays down Argentina debt default

2002-11-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Financial Times

IMF plays down Argentina debt default
By Peter Hudson in Buenos Aires and Caroline Daniel in Washington

November 16 2002

The International Monetary Fund on Friday played down the
significance of Argentina's default on debt repayments to the
World Bank, its sister institution.

A statement by Anne Krueger, the fund's first deputy managing
director, declared: We expect discussions will continue in the
coming days. It added that the fund's management would recommend
to the executive board an extension on a loan payment due on
November 22.

We are not shocked, a fund spokesperson said. We were not
operating under any deadline and we never tried to set the stage
for this week being a big decision.

Argentina paid only $79.2m against a scheduled repayment of
$805m. Although that means it is no longer eligible for fresh
loans or reduced interest rates on current debt, the bank will
continue to disburse funds for 30 days under existing agreements.

Argentina remains optimistic that it can reach a deal with the
fund. Our impression is that we moved forward a great deal on
technical issues, a senior government official said.

The Argentine Congress was in danger of undermining that
progress, however, with attempts to pass laws protecting bank
debtors from foreclosure and allowing them to use government
bonds to pay their debts. President Eduardo Duhalde took the
decision to postpone payment to the World Bank in order to force
politicians to back the accord, the official said.

Paul O'Neill, the US Treasury secretary, expressed hope for a
deal. Our position continues to be supportive of the IMF and the
Argentinians reaching an agreement that will provide for
sustainable economic growth in Argentina, and as quickly as
possible, putting that country back into a position where its
people have an opportunity to grow and be employed again.


Article at:
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/
FullStoryc=StoryFTcid=1035873342016p=1012571727088




An NLR article on Argentina

2002-10-29 Thread Louis Proyect
The latest NLR has an article 
(http://www.newleftreview.net/NLR25104.shtml) by a liberal professor 
named David Rock on the economic crisis in Argentina that covers the 
same terrain as the series of articles I posted here some months back 
(http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution.htm).

Although it contains some very useful information, it betrays a certain 
waffling on the decisive question of imperialism. This does not surprise 
me completely, since Nestor warned me about David Rock when I began my 
research. Although Rock's book on Argentina (Argentina, 1516-1987: from 
Spanish colonization to Alfonsin) appears authoritative and can be 
found in all your better bookstores, you would be advised to take it 
with a grain of salt.

In the NLR article, the word imperialism does not occur once. Although 
this in itself is not proof of anything, the fact that Rock can write 
Only the Baring Crisis of 1890 disrupted the development of the export 
economy is utter nonsense. As I pointed out in copious detail, Great 
Britain's imperial control was manifested through the railway system 
which Rock does not even mention.

When it comes to Peronism, Rock describes it as near-totalitarian, 
which should come as a complete surprise to anybody who is familiar with 
the period. If anything, the Peron era represented a democratic advance 
in social terms, in the same fashion as Chavez's presidency in 
Venezuela. I suppose that as the author of Authoritarian Argentina: the 
Nationalist Movement, its History and its Impact, Rock would be 
ill-disposed to any attempt by a Latin American country to determine its 
own destiny. If they aren't careful, they could easily end up slipping 
into fascism.

In the concluding section of the article, Rock manages to avoid any 
mention of the grass-roots mobilizations that are transforming the 
country. Instead, he seems intent on offering advice to the dissident 
Radical congresswoman Elisa Carrió who has emerged as a leftish 
alternative, having gained a reputation as a scourge of corruption. It 
is somewhat sad that NLR has such limited horizons when it comes to 
changing Argentine society. I guess they want to be careful not to 
betray any unfashionable ideas about proletarian revolution.


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Argentina: Hebe at Zanon Factory

2002-10-28 Thread Sabri Oncu
Forwarded from the PGA list. Sabri

+++

The following are excerpts from the speach Hebe de Bonifini,
leaders of the organization  Mothers of Plaza de Mayo  gave on
October 24,2002:



Companeros, you no doubt know that last week I was at the Zanon
factory.  I went in representation of the Mothers,  of our
University,  and the Plaza itself which the Mothers represent.



It was an incredible dayA year and a half ago the companeros
took over the factory.  They were for some time outside, in
tents, and had nothing to eat. But thanks to a group of men and
women  that is called Sainuco who work in the jail,  the
ordinary prisoners gave up half of their food.  The strikers had
nothing to eat and did not want to give up their tents where they
were.



I was surprised when I entered the factory because it is a
factory of 74 thousand cubic meters, more than four blocks long.
It is now working at least 20% of capacity creating new ceramics.
These have to be watched  over because the trade union bureacrats
want to take it away to give to the government so that the
government sells it  for nothing to the Chileans, and then the
government will say its just losing money.



Nevertheless, with 20% functioning,  it is making a profit.  This
shows the bosses really just want to throw the workers in the
street.  There are more than 200 companeros working and they have
given work to 10  more unemployed workers.



Everybody earns the same:  800 pesos  (about  $230 dollars)  But
the unemplyed said  we prefer to earn 400 peosos apice and then
we can create 10 more jobs.

Now there is 20 unemployed earning  400 pesos each.

They eat there.  They have a spectacular dining room, clean,  a
well kept, irrigated garden.  We are seeing a demonstration of a
new form of governing, a new form of showing we don't need the
bosses, that we don't need the powerful, that we are capable of
many more things if we believe we can do them



We believe a solidarity commission is very important with these
companeros, but it shouldn't be tied to the political parties:
we have to be the most independent possible:  The parties can
come but they cannot take over



On another issue, the students have taken over the Rectory of the
University. They have 5 points which they are not going to
negotiate.  They want to impose a negotiating commission on them,
but the kids do not want it.  The Mothers are marching at 8PM to
the demonstration...



There are a lot of things happening:  the Peoples Assemblies,
the piquetero unemployed movement  We tried to get into the
Court today, but they didn't want to let us in.  I pushed a
policeman against the wall and all the Mothers got inThe
police and everybody there couldn't believe that we had such
strength to get in

Finally they let me  into courtroom.  But they told me I had to
take off the handkerchief that I have worn for  25 years. Then a
judge and a prosecutro told me that no one can go into a
courtroom wearing a political symbol.



I told him to stick it up his ass...The handkerchief identifies
us,  that handkerchief stregthens us,  it shows our struggle of
25 years still bothers the powerful.  If it bothers the judges,
and bothers the prosecutors,  and bothers the politicians and the
cops,  it bothers them all.

It it bothers them,  it serves a function.

(translated by Earl Gilman)




Argentina: Alternative Media Social Movements (Oct. 17) OtherUpcoming Events

2002-10-06 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

Thursday, October 17
Argentina:  Alternative Media and Social Movements / Argentina: 
Medios Alternativos y Movimientos Sociales
Lecture by Marie Trigona, with Videos  Slides / Conferencia por 
Marie Trigona, con proyeccion de videos y diapositivas
Marie Trigona, an independent journalist and alternative media maker, 
will present two videos by independent media collectives in 
Argentina: La Bisagra de la Historia [At the Hinge of History] by 
venteveovideo, a member org of Argentina Arde; and Las Madres en la 
Rebelión Popular del 19 y 20 de Diciembre de 2001 [The Mothers in 
the Popular Rebellion of 19-20 December 2001] by Grupo de Cine 
Insurgente.  The videos document firsthand accounts from the streets 
during the popular rebellion of December 19 and 20, 2002.  Trigona 
recently spent three weeks in Argentina investigating current events 
and networking with alternative media groups.  She will discuss the 
current Argentine economic crisis and comment on the waves of social 
movements growing in Argentina, focusing on alternative media, the 
piqueteros (unemployed workers' movement), popular assemblies, 
reoccupied factories, police repression, and popular protest. 
Trigona's work, covering the Zapatista Caravan and the Plan Puebla 
Panama, has been published in Z Magazine: 
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/may01trigona.htm  
http://www.zmag.org/Zmag/articles/february02trigona.htm.
Time: 7:30 - 9:30 PM
Location: 300 Journalism Building, Ohio State University, 242 West 
18th Ave., Columbus, OH
Campus Map: http://www.osu.edu/map/linkbuildings/journalismbuilding.html
Sponsors: Student International Forum  Social Welfare Action Alliance
Contact: Yoshie Furuhashi, 614-668-6554 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Saturday, October 19, 9:30 AM - 1:00 PM
Citizens' Grassroots Congress
Harvey Wasserman, the internationally known environmentalist will 
speak about the proposed plan to dump 77,000 tons of radioactive 
waste at Yucca Mountain.  If Yucca Mountain opens in 2010, as 
scheduled, all that waste must travel American highways or railroads 
to get there -- some 100,000 shipments over three decades through 
thousands of American communities.  The potential for a serious 
accident or terrorist hijacking has opponents to the transport plan 
calling it Mobile Chernobyl.  Find out if nuclear waste will be 
transported through your neighborhood and what you can do about it. 
Location: Eastminster Presbyterian Church, 3100 East Broad St. (On 
the COTA bus line).
More information: Rick Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Connie Hammond 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].

Sunday, October 20
War Without End? Not In Our Name!
Demonstrate against Bush's Endless War!
Time: 5-6 PM
Location: 15th Ave. and High St., Columbus, OH
Contact: 614-252-9255

Thursday, October 24
Palestine Truth Tour 2002
Featuring:
* New Video From Palestine by Big Noise Films (the producer of 
Showdown in Seattle, Black and Gold, Zapatista, 9.11) featuring 
Mustafa Barghouthi, Hanan Ashrawi, and recent footage from Jenin, 
Hebron, and more.
* Reports from International Solidarity Movement activists who 
recently returned from Freedom Summer in Palestine, and activists 
from Palestine solidarity and other movements.
Time: 7:30 - 9:30 PM
Location: 300 Journalism Building, Ohio State University, 242 West 
18th Ave., Columbus, OH
Campus Map: http://www.osu.edu/map/linkbuildings/journalismbuilding.html
Sponsors: Student International Forum  Social Welfare Action Alliance
Contact: Yoshie Furuhashi, 614-668-6554 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Saturday, October 26
NATIONAL MARCH on WASHINGTON DC to STOP the WAR ON IRAQ.  For 
details, see http://www.InternationalANSWER.org.
For info about transportation from Columbus to D.C., call the 
Community Organizing Center at 614-252-9255.

Sunday, October 27
War Without End? Not In Our Name!
Demonstrate against Bush's Endless War!
Time: 5-6 PM
Location: 15th Ave. and High St., Columbus, OH
Contact: 614-252-9255

Thursday, October 31
Screening: _The Gaza Strip_ (Dir. James Longley, 2001)
*   Like most news reports and television images coming out of 
the Middle East these days, _Gaza Strip_, an unsparing new 
documentary by James Longley, offers little reason for optimism.  The 
film, which opens today at the Anthology Film Archives in the East 
Village, was shot in the winter and spring of 2001, and it provides a 
grim, upsetting glimpse at the lives of some of the 1.2 million 
Palestinians who live in the crowded cities and refugee camps of 
Gaza.  Mr. Longley makes powerful use of the techniques of cinéma 
vérité. The absence of voice-over narration and talking-head 
interviews gives his portrait of daily life under duress a riveting 
immediacy.  Much of _Gaza Strip_ follows Mohammed Hejazi, a 
13-year-old newspaper vendor.  This youth, who left school after the 
second grade, spends much of his spare time with other boys throwing 
rocks at Israeli soldiers, even though his best friend was killed by 
the gunfire that is the inevitable response

Argentina

2002-09-26 Thread Sabri Oncu

For what its worth, here is a recent Stratfor analysis. Sabri

+

Argentina: Duhalde May Have More To Gain in Default
24 September 2002

Summary

The chance that the International Monetary Fund will sign an aid
agreement with Argentina's government appears slim at best.
Senior fund officials believe the government lacks the support
needed to guarantee compliance with any possible conditions,
while the absence of an agreement increases the pressure for
President Eduardo Duhalde to default on about $6.7 billion in
debt owed to multilateral entities.

Analysis

The executive director of the International Monetary Fund, Horst
Kohler, urged Argentina's society and political classes Sept. 23
to set aside their differences and give President Eduardo Duhalde
the support he needs to negotiate a binding financial aid
agreement with the fund.

The remarks underscored the fact that nine months after
defaulting on $95 billion in international bonds, Argentina is no
closer to an agreement with the IMF today than it was in December
2001, when the peso was devalued and the country stopped paying
its debts to private international lenders.

The IMF has not offered Duhalde's government a firm aid agreement
because senior fund officials have said they believe that any
deal signed now would fall apart in three months or less.
Moreover, the fund's concerns about the sustainability of an aid
agreement with Duhalde's government appear justified.

As time passes without any progress in negotiations, Argentina's
financial bind is growing much worse. During the fourth quarter
of 2002, Argentina's government must repay $2.4 billion it owes
to the IMF, World Bank and Inter-American Development Bank. This
is nearly a quarter of its current international reserves of $9.4
billion. Another $4.5 billion owed to these multilateral entities
comes due in the first quarter of 2003.

So far in 2002 the IMF has granted Argentina one-year delays on
the repayment of $4.6 billion it owes the fund. However, nearly
all of the $2.2 billion due to lenders in the final three months
of this year is owed to the World Bank and IADB, and payment
cannot be pushed back under the existing loan agreements with
both entities.

This means that Duhalde's government confronts a grim choice. If
Argentina pays its debts to the IMF, the World Bank and IADB, it
will remain in their good graces. This would facilitate the
granting of new loans from these multilateral entities,
eventually helping to launch debt-restructuring talks with
private international creditors who hold the $95 billion in
defaulted government bonds.

However, draining Argentina's international reserves likely would
weaken the peso and accelerate inflation even more. This could
further aggravate social hardship in a country where unemployment
now tops 25 percent, more than 50 percent of the populace is poor
and the economy contracted more than 14 percent during the first
half of 2002.

As a result, last week senior Argentine officials hinted publicly
that Duhalde's government might default on the country's debt
obligations to lenders such as the IMF in order to protect its
international reserves and currency. The statements prompted the
IMF's second-ranking official, Anne Krueger, to warn that the
international financial community would punish the country if
it defaults on its multilateral debts.

This week Argentine officials softened their position. Cabinet
Chief Alfredo Atanasof said Sept. 24 that the Duhalde government
would pay $329 million due by the end of September and continue
negotiations with the IMF. Argentina owes the IMF, World Bank and
IADB another $836 million in October, $295 million in November
and $790 million in December, according to its Economy Ministry.

Duhalde's government is divided internally over making these
scheduled repayments without first signing a firm agreement with
the IMF, Buenos Aires daily La Nacion reports. However, Kohler's
Sept. 23 remarks indicate that the IMF will not sign an aid deal
with Duhalde that would carry Argentina through the end of 2003
without political guarantees that all of the conditions attached
to such an agreement would be fully complied with by Duhalde as
well as his successor, who won't be elected until March 2003 and
will not assume the presidency until next May.

Although the IMF's position may be financially and politically
prudent from the fund's perspective, Duhalde simply does not have
sufficient popular and political support to assure that his
government could fully comply -- for longer than a few weeks --
with any agreement it signs with the IMF. Recent opinion polls
show that Duhalde is unpopular with more than 90 percent of the
adult population, and Congress and the courts have undermined his
economic reform policies.

The impasse between the IMF and Duhalde's government cannot be
solved in Buenos Aires, because Argentina's unpopular and
isolated president does not have the political influence to
compel

argentina

2002-09-25 Thread Ian Murray

Latest Columns
 09/25 00:19
Argentine Workers Seize Factories, Assets as Recession Deepens
By Helen Murphy


Buenos Aires, Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Domingo Ibanez has a new boss:
himself. Six months ago he and 44 other workers seized the bankrupt
ice-cream flavoring factory where they worked.

Now the plant in Barracas, a Buenos Aires neighborhood of derelict food
factories, runs at about one-tenth capacity to produce 2 tons of flavorings
a day. Supervisors, administrative staff, laborers and cleaners share
profits equally, each earning about 25 centavos ($0.07) an hour.

``All we want is to keep the factory open,'' said Ibanez, 53, as he mixed a
vat of butterscotch syrup. ``The alternative is unemployment, and I'd
probably never get another job.''

As Argentina's four-year recession forces companies out of business, workers
have commandeered the factories, machinery and inventories of more than 100
former employers in the last nine months, either to save their jobs or in
lieu of back pay. Authorities turn a blind eye to such seizures in a country
with unemployment at 22 percent and half the population in poverty.

``Argentina is going back to the Dark Ages,'' said Oscar Liberman, chief
economist at Fundacion Mercado, a think tank. ``When the government doesn't
provide solutions to the people's problems they will look for their own
solutions.''

Factory seizures are just one consequence of the economic crisis in
Argentina, sparked when the government defaulted on $95 billion of debt,
restricted withdrawals from bank accounts and devalued the currency eight
months ago.

Unable to pay debt or raise financing, and with demand for their goods
dwindling, more than 500 companies have gone bankrupt and thousands of
others closed down, swelling the number of workers who are either unemployed
or with only part-time jobs to 5.6 million.

Thousands Comb Streets

Many who have taken over the means of production receive little more than
their bus fare to work and a hot meal in the canteen. Ibanez, who has worked
at the flavorings plant since it opened 30 years ago, says he counts himself
lucky not to be one of the thousands who comb the streets of Buenos Aires
each night for food, newspapers, cardboard and cans to sell.

The 100 cooperatives created this year employ about 10,000 people, or 2
percent of Argentina's actively employed workforce. Many are part of the
country's food industry, including Frigorifico Yaguane, a slaughterhouse in
Gonzalez Catan, a town just south of Buenos Aires, and the Cooperativa
Lactea dairy products company in Las Flores, a rural community in Buenos
Aires province.

Other people have turned to crime. More than one violent crime is committed
every minute in Argentina, according to police figures, and theft is
spreading. Between January and June, kidnappings in the greater Buenos Aires
area rose six-fold from a year earlier.

Crime Supports Business

Some of that crime supports business. At Pablo Fromini's metal workshop on
the shantytown outskirts of Buenos Aires, Fromini pays 3.2 pesos a kilo (2.2
pounds) for copper wire he says is probably stolen.

``I don't care where it comes from as long as I can make a living,'' said
Fromini, adding that he receives hundreds of offers a day from people
selling wire.

Argentina's telephone, railroad and electricity companies say theft of
copper wire is rife. Edenor SA estimates 7 kilometers (4.4 miles) of wire is
stolen from it each month, said Alberto Lippi, a spokesman for the Buenos
Aires electricity distributor.

Dismissed workers pressure former employers to make good on unpaid salaries
by holding assets for ransom. At Lavalan, a wool processor that went
bankrupt in February, sacked workers have blocked 500 tons of unwashed
fleece from leaving the company's plant in Avellaneda, on the outskirts of
Buenos Aires.

Fight With Police

``They owe us money,'' said Santiago Maldonado, who worked at the plant for
22 years.

Early this month, Maldonado and other pickets fought off police who had been
sent to enforce a court order to return the wool to one of its owners,
Marcelo Fowler. He values it at $300,000.

``Nowadays the mob can appropriate goods and the authorities are afraid to
do anything,'' said Fowler. ``We're heading back to the days after the
Russian Revolution.'' Police now stand guard outside the plant, though they
haven't made further efforts to recover the wool.

Luis Cara, a lawyer who gives legal advice to workers seeking to set up
cooperatives and acts as an intermediary between them and former employers,
says plant seizures sometimes are the only way employees can receive their
due.

``The owners usually owe at least 10 months in back pay, and that's almost
impossible to get back,'' said Cara. ``I help them get organized in secret
and make the most of their situation.''

Ownership Granted

If the past is a guide, workers at the flavorings factory and elsewhere may
be able to hold onto their appropriated assets. Courts gave workers

Argentina

2002-09-25 Thread Michael Perelman

Well, my source was wrong.  Argentina says that it will not use its bank
reserves to bail out the IMF.  Come on, Mat, tell us more about it.
-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Argentina capitulates???

2002-09-24 Thread Michael Perelman


Does  yesterday's story that Argentina had agreed to use its bank reserves
to pay that the IMF mean that that the government has capitulated?
-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Argentina capitulates???

2002-09-24 Thread Forstater, Mathew

Michael - There are mixed signals. Some officials said they would use
reserves to make payments, some said they would under certain
conditions, some said they would make their September payment, but not
October, etc. See, e.g.,:

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20020924-033746-5194r

If you have something different, please share the link.

Mat




PBS on Argentina

2002-08-09 Thread Louis Proyect

Last night's Wide Angle Public TV documentary on Argentina was an 
eye-opener. Eschewing any kind of political or economic analysis of how the 
country ended up in the desperate situation it is in today, it focused on a 
handful of individuals who are emblematic of the country's fitful attempt 
to adjust to what amounts to Great Depression type conditions.

The title of the show was The Empty ATM since it concentrated mostly on 
the inability of Argentinians to withdraw money from frozen savings 
accounts that--in addition--have lost most of their value since the 
government enacted a series of financial reforms. One woman's savings 
plummeted from $118,000 to $18,000 in a single year. Even then, she could 
not withdraw more than a pittance from an ATM in a single week.

In an attempt to survive, many are involved in a barter economy which uses 
an informal currency based on credits. People congregate at huge indoor 
spaces to exchange services like haircuts or household goods. A barter 
kingpin who is shown racing from town to town to set up new centers tells 
us that this is the best way to deal with the hardships and not to waste 
time protesting.

It also included contestants participating in Human Resources, a TV show 
where one competes for a modest job, like a sales clerk, instead of one 
million dollars or a trip around the world. Tuesday's NY Times had an 
article on the show:

On Camera, Jobless Argentines Vie for a Livelihood
By LARRY ROHTER

BUENOS AIRES, Aug. 6 — Other countries may have television programs that 
lure entrants with offers of a million dollars, a new car or a luxury 
vacation in a tropical clime. But in this nation of broken finances and 
shattered dreams, contestants on a popular new game show compete for a 
prize that is increasingly rare and precious: a paying job.

Broadcast five days a week, the hourlong program known as Human Resources 
pits two unemployed people in a contest to win a guaranteed six-month work 
contract. They relate their life stories and answer questions that test 
their ability to perform the duties they are seeking. Then viewers vote by 
telephone to decide which of the two should get the coveted job.

On Monday, the prize was a position as a sales clerk at a bakery in a 
suburb of the Argentine capital. Both contestants were pleasant young women 
who have been unable to find work since finishing high school. Fátima 
Rueda, an 18-year-old single mother, and Nadia Bravo, 20, pleaded tearfully 
with the viewing audience.

I feel helpless without work, said one. I feel empty, confessed the 
other. After every commercial break, a well-groomed blond hostess, much in 
the mold of Vanna White, urged viewers to call a toll-free number to 
support their favorite.

On the air since mid-April, Human Resources is a reflection of a new 
national obsession in a country of 37 million that until recently was the 
most prosperous in Latin America. As the Argentine economy continues to 
contract in a collapse that is now the statistical equivalent of the Great 
Depression, fears of being pulled into the black hole are growing, 
especially among the middle class.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/07/international/americas/07ARGE.html

---

Afterwards Joseph Stiglitz spoke to an interviewer for about 10 minutes in 
a phony, hand-wringing exercise. He blamed IMF shortsightedness for 
Argentina's woes and emphasized the need for expanded trade to get the 
country on its feet again. He specifically cited Mexico's rebound after 
1995 as what Argentina needed, implicitly giving his approval to NAFTA and 
other forms of free trade liberalization. You can watch this excerpt at: 
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/argentina/index.html

You can also get an analysis of what went wrong in Argentina from Daniel 
Yergin, the author of The Commanding Heights, a paean to the kind of 
privatization and deregulation that has had such devastating results. 
Yergin says:

 When did Argentina embark on this distinctive path? After all, 
Argentina was once one of the richest countries in the world. The answer 
starts with Juan Perón. Now best remembered as the husband of Evita, Perón 
emerged as Argentina's strongman in the years after World War II. The 
embodiment of nationalistic populism, Perón built on the prewar legacy of 
fascist ideas, turning Argentina into a corporatist country, with powerful 
organized interest groups -- big business, labor unions, military, farmers 
-- that negotiated with the government for position and resources. Perón 
nationalized large parts of the economy, put up trade barriers, and cut 
Argentina's links to the world economy -- long the source of its great 
wealth. Perón was also wildly popular -- until Evita's death in 1952. 
Thereafter, however, the economy became so chaotic that he prudently went 
into exile.

Of course, Argentina's troubles begin with the overthrow of Peron. Contrary 
to the mendacious Yergin, Perón was much more of a social

Re: Re: PBS show on Argentina

2002-08-09 Thread Carl Remick

From: Anthony D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Carl Remick wrote:

  I just saw that PBS show on Argentina that Lou recommended earlier, The
  Empty ATM.  Quite interesting, especially the Stiglitz interview at the
  end.  One memorable quote from an Argentine:  In a land where everyone
  protests, nothing gets done.  Of course, looking at the US, it seems 
clear
  that in a land where few protest, nothing productive gets done either.
 
  Carl

Now what does productive mean, to poke a hornet's nest?

Cheers, Anthony

As I define it, it means virtually any action at all aimed at repairing the 
ravages of 20+ years of free-market idolatry.

Carl



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Re: PBS on Argentina

2002-08-09 Thread Carl Remick

From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It also included contestants participating in Human Resources, a TV show 
where one competes for a modest job, like a sales clerk, instead of one 
million dollars or a trip around the world.

Human Resources was a sad spectacle -- as grotesque as the show Queen for 
a Day that appeared on US TV many years ago.

Afterwards Joseph Stiglitz spoke to an interviewer for about 10 minutes in 
a phony, hand-wringing exercise. He blamed IMF shortsightedness for 
Argentina's woes and emphasized the need for expanded trade to get the 
country on its feet again. He specifically cited Mexico's rebound after 
1995 as what Argentina needed, implicitly giving his approval to NAFTA and 
other forms of free trade liberalization.

Plus, JS noted that Argentine beef is very tasty, a pitch certain to 
appeal to ever-widening US viewers ;-)

Carl

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Re: Re: PBS on Argentina

2002-08-09 Thread Louis Proyect


Plus, JS noted that Argentine beef is very tasty, a pitch certain to 
appeal to ever-widening US viewers ;-)

Carl

If I run into Stiglitz on the Columbia campus, I might ask him what he 
thinks of Cuba, especially in light of his successor James Wolfensohn has 
to say: ''Cuba has done a great job on education and health.They have done 
a good job, and it does not embarrass me to admit it.''  It is interesting 
that both Stiglitz and fellow chastened economist Jeffrey Sachs end up 
here. I suspect that being a former gung-ho privatizer and deregulationist 
enhances one's career nowadays.




Re: Re: Re: PBS on Argentina

2002-08-09 Thread Doug Henwood

Louis Proyect wrote:

Plus, JS noted that Argentine beef is very tasty, a pitch certain 
to appeal to ever-widening US viewers ;-)

Carl

If I run into Stiglitz on the Columbia campus, I might ask him what 
he thinks of Cuba, especially in light of his successor James 
Wolfensohn has to say: ''Cuba has done a great job on education and 
health.They have done a good job, and it does not embarrass me to 
admit it.''  It is interesting that both Stiglitz and fellow 
chastened economist Jeffrey Sachs end up here. I suspect that being 
a former gung-ho privatizer and deregulationist enhances one's 
career nowadays.

I'm going to have Stiglitz on my radio show next Thursday, so I'll ask him.

Stiggy didn't need anything to enhance his career. There was a 
reason he was long regarded as a certain Nobel prize winner. You 
could argue that it's rather amazing that his reputation has survived 
his apostasy.

Doug




Re: Re: Re: PBS on Argentina

2002-08-09 Thread Carl Remick

From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If I run into Stiglitz on the Columbia campus, I might ask him what he 
thinks of Cuba, especially in light of his successor James Wolfensohn has 
to say: ''Cuba has done a great job on education and health.They have done 
a good job, and it does not embarrass me to admit it.''  It is interesting 
that both Stiglitz and fellow chastened economist Jeffrey Sachs end up 
here. I suspect that being a former gung-ho privatizer and deregulationist 
enhances one's career nowadays.

[You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows, so to 
speak.  From Paul Krugman's column in today's NY Times:]

Why hasn't [Latin American free-market] reform worked as promised? That's a 
difficult and disturbing question. I, too, bought into much though not all 
of the Washington consensus; but now it's time, as Berkeley's Brad DeLong 
puts it, to mark my beliefs to market. And my confidence that we've been 
giving good advice is way down. One has to sympathize with Latin political 
leaders who want to temper enthusiasm for free markets with more efforts to 
protect workers and the poor.

[http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/09/opinion/09KRUG.html]

Carl




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PBS show on Argentina

2002-08-08 Thread Carl Remick

I just saw that PBS show on Argentina that Lou recommended earlier, The 
Empty ATM.  Quite interesting, especially the Stiglitz interview at the 
end.  One memorable quote from an Argentine:  In a land where everyone 
protests, nothing gets done.  Of course, looking at the US, it seems clear 
that in a land where few protest, nothing productive gets done either.

Carl

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Re: PBS show on Argentina

2002-08-08 Thread Anthony D'Costa

Now what does productive mean, to poke a hornet's nest?

Cheers, Anthony

xxx
Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor
Comparative International Development
University of WashingtonCampus Box 358436
1900 Commerce Street
Tacoma, WA 98402, USA

Phone: (253) 692-4462
Fax :  (253) 692-5718
xxx

On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Carl Remick wrote:

 I just saw that PBS show on Argentina that Lou recommended earlier, The
 Empty ATM.  Quite interesting, especially the Stiglitz interview at the
 end.  One memorable quote from an Argentine:  In a land where everyone
 protests, nothing gets done.  Of course, looking at the US, it seems clear
 that in a land where few protest, nothing productive gets done either.

 Carl

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Re: Re: We're becoming another Argentina

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect


Thanks Lou,

Your contributions are inestimable. We are at another juncture, which you 
grasp and expresses in your contributions.

Thanks!

You have singularly altered my perception of what I thought was the 
Trotskyite movement and individuals. I hope that an old Stalinist dog such 
as I have shown that a dog can learn new tricks.

Trotsky wasn't that bad. Trotskyists are horrible, however.





We're becoming another Argentina

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect

Washington Post, Thursday, August 1, 2002; Page A01
Economic Crisis Swells in S. America

By Anthony Faiola
Washington Post Foreign Service

MONTEVIDEO, Uruguay, July 31 -- Several additional South American countries 
have been swept up in what is becoming the region's worst economic crisis 
in two decades, igniting fears of a replay of the Latin American financial 
collapses of the early 1980s.

The crisis, which analysts had hoped would be contained to Argentina's 
financial meltdown six months ago, has now spread to its neighbors Brazil, 
Uruguay and Paraguay. It has threatened to engulf other politically 
unstable economies in the region as well, including Bolivia and Venezuela, 
where analysts predict deep recessions for this year.

But this week, investor flight has particularly hit Argentina's immediate 
neighbors. In Brazil, Latin America's largest economy, government bonds 
have fallen to half their face value in recent weeks because of fears of a 
government default. The Brazilian real, in a tailspin that has lowered its 
value against the dollar by 19 percent this month, today touched its lowest 
point since going into circulation as the national currency in 1994.

Paraguay has come face-to-face with the prospect of a banking collapse and 
a deepening recession. Here in tiny Uruguay, dubbed the Switzerland of 
Latin America for its rock-solid financial system, government officials 
trying to stave off a debt default are seeking an immediate loan from the 
International Monetary Fund, the U.S. Treasury and other major foreign lenders.

To ease the pressure, the Uruguayan government was forced to close banks 
Tuesday for the first time in 20 years. It decided today to extend the 
banking holiday until Monday. The closure left many Uruguayans lining up in 
front of ATMs.

We're becoming another Argentina, said Maurice Lopez, 45, a Montevideo 
store clerk who waited today to withdraw cash from an ATM. I can't believe 
it has come to this.

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28776-2002Jul31.html




[Fwd: Venezuela and Argentina: A Tale of Two Coups]

2002-07-08 Thread Bill Rosenberg



Venezuela and Argentina:  A Tale of Two Coups

by Greg Palast
New Internationalist Magazine - July 2002

The big business-led coup in Venezuela failed, where international finance's coup in 
Argentina has succeeded. Greg Palast gives us the inside track on two very different 
power-grabs. 

**
Come see Greg Palast at Politics  Prose July 17 
or at
Border's July 18th at 7 PM
Details below 
**

Blondes in revolt 


On May Day, starting out from the Hilton Hotel, 200,000 blondes marched East through 
Caracas' shopping corridor along Casanova Avenue. At the same time, half a million 
brunettes converged on them from the West. It would all seem like a comic shampoo 
commercial if 16 people hadn't been shot dead two weeks earlier when the two groups 
crossed paths. 

The May Day brunettes support Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez. They funnelled down 
from the ranchos, the pustules of crude red-brick bungalows, stacked one on the other, 
that erupt on the steep, unstable hillsides surrounding this city of five million. The 
bricks in some ranchos are new, a recent improvement in these fetid, impromptu slums 
where many previously sheltered behind cardboard walls. 'Chávez gives them bricks and 
milk,' a local TV reporter told me, 'and so they vote for him.' 

Chávez is dark and round as a cola nut. Like his followers, Chávez is an 'Indian'. But 
the blondes, the 'Spanish', are the owners of Venezuela. A  group near me on the 
blonde march screamed 'Out! Out!' in English,  demanding the removal of the President. 
One edible-oils executive, in high  heels, designer glasses and push-up bra had turned 
out, she said: 'To fight for democracy.' She added: 'We'll try to do it 
institutionally,' a phrase that meant nothing to me until a banker in pale pink 
lipstick explained  that to remove Chávez, 'we can't wait until the next election'. 

The anti-Chavistas don't equate democracy with voting. With 80 per cent of Venezuela's 
population at or below the poverty level, elections are not attractive to the 
protesting financiers. Chávez had won the election in  1998 with a crushing 58 per 
cent of the popular vote and that was unlikely  to change except at gunpoint. 

And so on 12 April the business leadership of Venezuela, backed by a few 'Spanish' 
generals, turned their guns on the Presidential Palace and  kidnapped Chávez. Pedro 
Carmona, the chief of Fedecamaras, the nation's confederation of business and 
industry, declared himself President. This  coup, one might say, was the ultimate in 
corporate lobbying. Within hours, he set about voiding the 49 Chávez laws that had so 
annoyed the captains of industry, executives of the foreign oil companies and 
latifundistas, the big plantation owners. 


The banker's embrace
 

Carmona had dressed himself in impressive ribbons and braids for the inauguration. In 
the Miraflores ballroom, filled with the Venezuelan élite, Ignazio Salvatierra, 
president of the Banker's Association, signed his name to Carmona's self-election with 
a grand flourish. The two hugged emotionally as the audience applauded.

Carmona then decreed the dissolution of his nation's congress and supreme court while 
the business peopled clapped and chanted, 'Democracia!  Democracia!' I later learned 
the Cardinal of Caracas had led Carmona into the Presidential Palace, a final 
Genet-esque touch to this delusional drama.  This fantasy would evaporate ?by the 
crowing of the cock,? as Chávez told me in his poetic way.

Chávez minister Miguel Bustamante-Madriz, who had escaped the coup, led 60,000 
brunettes down from Barrio Petare to Miraflores. As thousands marched against the 
coup, Caracas television stations, owned by media barons who supported (and possibly 
planned the coup) played soap operas.  The station owned hoped their lack of coverage 
would keep the Chavista crowd from swelling; but it doubled and doubled and doubled.  
On l3 April, they were ready to die for Chávez. 

They did not have to.  Carmona, fresh from his fantasy inaugural, received a call from 
the head of  a pro-Chávez paratroop regiment stationed in Maracay, outside the 
capital.  To avoid bloodshed, Chávez had agreed to his own 'arrest' and removal by the 
putschists, but did not mention to the plotters that several hundred loyal troops had 
entered secret corridors under the Palace. Carmona,  surrounded, could choose his 
method of death: bullets from the inside, rockets from above, or dismemberment by the 
encircling 'bricks and milk' crowd. Carmona took off his costume ribbons and 
surrendered. 


Taking on the oil giants 


I interviewed Carmona while I leaned out the fourth floor window of an  apartment in 
La Alombra, a high-rise building complex. I spoke my pidgin Spanish across to his 
balcony on the building a few yards away. The one-time petrochemical mogul was under 
house arrest - the lucky bastard. If  he had attempted to overthrow the President

The next Argentina?

2002-07-02 Thread Steve Diamond

Wednesday, July 3, 2002
Is China the Next Argentina?

China's sagging economy is threatening to turn China into an Asian version
of Argentina, a top financial journal warns.

Unless it can patch up the situation, China risks becoming Asia's
Argentina... the people's Republic can go from boom to bust in just a few
short years, wrote Gordon Chang in the June 19, Asian Wall Street Journal
as quoted by the authoritative American Foreign Policy Council.

According to Chang, both countries crammed their banks full of bonds,
created growth by playing money games and attracting foreign direct
investment... Argentina, he wrote deferred reforms by living on foreign
capital, and China is playing this same game, too... When the flow of
international capital tightens again, China's deteriorating fiscal and debt
conditions will come under international scrutiny.

High expectations for the Chinese economy are grossly exaggerated he
warned, explaining that China's economic growth is declining and its banking
system is disarray, posing a threat of destabilization to the international
economy. .

Chang reported that Beijing authorities describe China's economic outlook
with words such as 'grim' and 'grave,' yet some foreign experts are
continuing to say that everything is just fine and dandy in the People's
Republic of China.

He cited the official figures - which he said tend to exaggerate China's
output yet still show growth declined in each quarter of last year... There
is also a more fundamental matter of how could a country record high growth
when it is experiencing worsening deflation and massive unemployment.

Signs of China's economic problems described by Chang:


The central government amounts for more than two-thirds of investment in the
country, which he says is alarming by any standard;

China's ever-larger budget deficits as shown by the record one of $37.5
billion announced for the coming year

China's annual deficit has already zoomed past 3% of the GDP, the
international recognized safety limit.
The current pace is unsustainable and out of control, he wrote. Finance
Minister Xiang Huaicheng has just one word for China's recent spending,
calling it 'reckless.'

China as the next Argentina?' he asks, adding that even though it sounds
preposterous today, it is worth remembering that Argentina did not have to
go through the shock therapy of joining the World Trade Organization which
resulted in China's losing control of the timetable to reform its banking
system.

The largest state banks are insolvent, as a group perhaps the weakest in
the world, he reports, adding that Beijing must either rehabilitate them in
the next five years to the tune of $500 billion - or face the failure and
the collapse of the economy itself.

Beijing talks a lot about structural reform but has implemented very little
of it these past few years, Chang concludes.

In this upcoming period of political transition, [with jockeying for the
upcoming Communist Party leadership changes at hand]the paralysis will
become even more evident... The critical issue is time. Peasants and workers
are impatient... Despite progress, many Chinese today are hungry, angry and,
worst of all, desperate. Beijing's leaders know how to use the coercive
power of the state to keep a lid on unrest. Yet, force is only a short-term
solution. Time is running out.




Re: The next Argentina?

2002-07-02 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message -
From: Steve Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Unless it can patch up the situation, China risks becoming
Asia's
 Argentina... the people's Republic can go from boom to bust in
just a few
 short years, wrote Gordon Chang in the June 19, Asian Wall
Street Journal
 as quoted by the authoritative American Foreign Policy Council.

===

Right wing China bashers.

http://www.afpc.org




 According to Chang, both countries crammed their banks full of
bonds,
 created growth by playing money games and attracting foreign
direct
 investment... Argentina, he wrote deferred reforms by living
on foreign
 capital, and China is playing this same game, too... When the
flow of
 international capital tightens again, China's deteriorating
fiscal and debt
 conditions will come under international scrutiny.

 High expectations for the Chinese economy are grossly
exaggerated he
 warned, explaining that China's economic growth is declining and
its banking
 system is disarray, posing a threat of destabilization to the
international
 economy. .

 Chang reported that Beijing authorities describe China's
economic outlook
 with words such as 'grim' and 'grave,' yet some foreign experts
are
 continuing to say that everything is just fine and dandy in the
People's
 Republic of China.

 He cited the official figures - which he said tend to exaggerate
China's
 output yet still show growth declined in each quarter of last
year... There
 is also a more fundamental matter of how could a country record
high growth
 when it is experiencing worsening deflation and massive
unemployment.

 Signs of China's economic problems described by Chang:


 The central government amounts for more than two-thirds of
investment in the
 country, which he says is alarming by any standard;

 China's ever-larger budget deficits as shown by the record one
of $37.5
 billion announced for the coming year

 China's annual deficit has already zoomed past 3% of the GDP,
the
 international recognized safety limit.
 The current pace is unsustainable and out of control, he
wrote. Finance
 Minister Xiang Huaicheng has just one word for China's recent
spending,
 calling it 'reckless.'

 China as the next Argentina?' he asks, adding that even though
it sounds
 preposterous today, it is worth remembering that Argentina did
not have to
 go through the shock therapy of joining the World Trade
Organization which
 resulted in China's losing control of the timetable to reform
its banking
 system.

 The largest state banks are insolvent, as a group perhaps the
weakest in
 the world, he reports, adding that Beijing must either
rehabilitate them in
 the next five years to the tune of $500 billion - or face the
failure and
 the collapse of the economy itself.

 Beijing talks a lot about structural reform but has implemented
very little
 of it these past few years, Chang concludes.

 In this upcoming period of political transition, [with
jockeying for the
 upcoming Communist Party leadership changes at hand]the
paralysis will
 become even more evident... The critical issue is time. Peasants
and workers
 are impatient... Despite progress, many Chinese today are
hungry, angry and,
 worst of all, desperate. Beijing's leaders know how to use the
coercive
 power of the state to keep a lid on unrest. Yet, force is only a
short-term
 solution. Time is running out.





Repression in Argentina

2002-07-01 Thread Louis Proyect

Dear Louis,

Could you forward this text about the repression in Argentina to a variety
of US leftist lists/sites, and request further publicity. It's in Spanish,
which means there it might be difficult for some, but there are many who
speak it, so... If anybody is interested in making a quick translation of
it, that would be great.

Thanks.

Gregory Schwartz

===

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:47:44 -0300 
From: Mabel Bellucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Reply-To: Mabel Bellucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: SEAMOS TODOS COSTEKI Y SANTILLAN

SEAMOS TODOS COSTEKI Y SANTILLAN

Mabel Bellucci - Ana Dinerstein

Frente a la dramática represión llevada a cabo contra la toma del Puente
Pueyrredón en Avellaneda, por parte del Movimiento de Trabajadores
Desocupados (MTD) de la Coordinadora Aníbal Verón, básicamente la mayoría
de los programas políticos y noticieros televisivos pusieron al desnudo la
mirada más reaccionaria de las clases medias hacia este movimiento
autónomo, con prácticas de democracia directa y reactivo a las políticas
clientelísiticas que implementa tanto el Estado como los partidos políticos.

No obstante, se podía esperar que los dirigentes del movimiento Piquetero
que tienen prensa, se hicieran cargo de una responsabilidad fundamental:
develar, ante una opinión pública que aún duda de quien es el enemigo, esta
jugada del poder contra los desocupados y por ende contra todos!. No
obstante, queda claro que dichos referentes del ala más institucionalizada
del movimiento piquetero se han convertido en figuras prolijas y
asimilables para ciertos sectores como es el caso de Luis D´Elía, titular
de la Federación de Tierra y Vivienda y dirigente de la Central de
Trabajadores Argentinos (CTA). Asimismo, fuerte opositor del Bloque
Piquetero Nacional- de cuño de izquierdia partidaria- en el cual la Aníbal
Verón no lo integra por disidencias metodológicas y políticas.

Luis D´Elía representa lo que el establisment quiere ver de este
movimiento: inclinación al diálogo y a la negociación, con una postura no
confrontativa y antidisturbio. Cultivar este perfil otorga beneficios: se
calcula que D´Elìa maneja aproximadamente 60.000 Planes Trabajar, con todo
lo que ello significa en acumulación de poder en una argentina arrasada por
la pobreza y el hambre. Debido al tremendo peso de los desocupados en la
luchas populares, fue concentrando un rol cada vez más protagónica en el
interior de la CTA. Existe el riesgo de que la Central, que se inició como
un intento de producir unidad en la diversidad y articulación en un gran
movimiento social con diferentes sectores en lucha, se hunda en un clima de
internismo que no refleje las prácticas políticas nacidas a partir de la
revuelta del 19 y 20 de diciembre.

Las declaraciones de D´Elía en torno a la sangrienta jornada escenificada
en el Puente Pueyrredón fueron entre patéticas y poco afortunadas contra
otro modo de resistir y enfrentar organizativamente el conflicto de la
desocupación. Los medios de comunicación utilizaron la clásica muletilla de
analizar los acontecimientos desde la violencia generada por los piqueteros
de la Coordinadora Aníbal Verón y en cuestionar una puesta en escena de lo
esperable. No obstante, son pocos los que replican ese mismo planteo frente
a la reacción violenta y, desde ya, justificada de los colectivos de
ahorristas que pierden su cordura de clase cuando implementan
maratónicamente acciones directas contra las instalaciones bancarias.
Incluso, estos modos irruptivos son vistos con buenos ojos ya que la estafa
y la violación a la propiedad privada son argumentos que justifican dichas
acciones virulentas .

En otras palabras, la batería mediática de la teoría de los dos demonios
aggionada a los nuevos tiempos, coincide con las últimas declaraciones de
Luis D´Elía. Vale decir: no están dirigidas contra el movimiento de
piqueteros en general sino contra la Coordinadora Anibal Verón en
particular, en tanto que la misma no se ajusta disciplinadamente a las
reglas sistémicas e institucionales. Ahora, ya no son víctimas sino
victimarios. Si no llevasen capuchas, piedras o palos para defenderse, si
no saliesen a poner el cuerpo en un enfrentamiento de lucha desigual,
serían ciudadanos pacíficos reclamando por sus derechos perdidos. La sola
existencia del piquetero como figura real y simbólica más allá de su
discurso y accionar, es violenta porque él es producto de la violencia del
capitalismo, la violencia de la moneda y del trabajo alienado.

Ante el asesinato despiadado de Maximiliano Costeki y Darío Santillán, sólo
podemos decir: Seamos todos Darío y Maximiliano en el momento de su muerte.
Sus muertes simbolizan nuestras muertes, fisicas o virtuales. Seamos todos
Piqueteros!

Mabel Bellucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ana Dinerstein
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Buenos Aires, 30.6.02 


Louis Proyect
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Forwarded from Nestor (murder in Argentina)

2002-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect

I don´t have all the facts checked to the last point, but it seems that
during repression of a group of road blockers on the Pueyrredón bridge in
Buenos Aires there has been a casualty. Although none of my cdes. was hit,
so far as I know, there are other cdes. of sister and related organizations
who have been at the block. The government seems to have decided not to
allow a single road block again, probably under strong pressure from the
banks and IMF. This should be a signal for those who are still banging on
the banks´ doors every day.
  
That is, not only they are killing newborns daily in the hospitals, they
have begun to kill people on the streets again. The consequences of the
cowardice and perversity of this bourgeois govm´t (and you know that I am
very precise in the usage of the word bourgeois) are beginning to rise to
the public.
  
We in the PIN are trying to organize something as an answer (maybe a
general strike tomorrow, at least this is what we are trying to get the
union leaders to decide, both in CTA and MTA -Moyano´s group in the rebel
CGT).
  
Please keep the list informed and please suggest cdes. in the First World
to help us by mobilizing as much as they can in order to force your govmts
to have the IMF out of Argentina!!
  
This time, we need you all more than we ever needed you all.
  
  
Hug,

Nestor

Louis Proyect
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An explanation for new repression in Argentina?

2002-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect

NY Times, June 26, 2002
Blows Keep Coming for an Argentina Long in Crisis
By LARRY ROHTER


BUENOS AIRES, June 25 — The president says it may be impossible to reach
any agreement with the International Monetary Fund, the head of the central
bank is giving up and going home, and the economy minister embarked tonight
on a desperate quest to pry $18 billion from foreign lenders. 

For Argentina, an already disastrous economic crisis is suddenly
threatening to become even more calamitous. 
 
Argentina needs a very rapid agreement, but it doesn't depend on us, a
dejected President Eduardo Duhalde said in a television appearance here
late on Monday. I hope we don't have to wait until September, because the
situation in the region is getting worse every day.

Mr. Duhalde spoke shortly after Mario Blejer, the president of the central
bank and a former I.M.F. official with extensive contacts on Wall Street,
said he was stepping down. His departure leaves the economy minister,
Roberto Lavagna, who departed tonight for three days of meetings with the
country's creditors in New York and Washington, as the undisputed chief of
the government's economic team.

The resignation of Mr. Blejer, 53, an economist with a doctorate from the
University of Chicago, was not a great surprise. His health problems and
his desire to rejoin his family, which lives in the United States, were
widely known here, and he had earlier told Mr. Duhalde that he would stay
in his post only until an agreement could be reached with the fund.

But clashes with Mr. Lavagna, especially over how to end a freeze on bank
deposits that has crippled Argentina's banking system since December,
hastened Mr. Blejer's decision; he is to leave his post at the end of the
week. Investors reacted by pushing the value of the Argentine peso down 2.5
percent today to 3.86 to the dollar; it was pegged at one to the dollar for
a decade until early January.

Mr. Blejer is to be succeeded by his deputy, Aldo Pignanelli, a
little-known Peronist party loyalist who played a role in recent efforts to
keep several banks from collapsing.

In his letter of resignation, Mr. Blejer complained that the central bank's
independence has been weakened repeatedly in recent times and urged the
government not to submit it to self-interested pressures.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/26/business/worldbusiness/26ARGE.html

Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org




Argentina: capitalism is a dirty word

2002-05-22 Thread Sabri Oncu

In Argentina capitalism is a dirty word, so executives set up
'feed the kids' website

By TONY SMITH, AP Business Writer

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) - With Argentina slumped in its
fourth year of recession, cash-strapped banks can't pay out their
customers' savings. Ordinary folk are reduced to bartering for
basic foods. Unemployment is so high that 3,500 people a day join
the ranks of the officially poor.

Who's to blame? Capitalism, according to many Argentines.

Rightly or wrongly, many of this once prosperous country's
residents hold free-market policies responsible for much of their
misery so a group of young professionals is finding it pays to be
an ethical executive. Or it would be if they accepted wages.

Adapting the business model of The Hunger Site, a U.S.-based
charity website, a group of young, professionals volunteered to
launch www.porloschicos.com — which translates as
forthekids.com — to feed hungry children in a fast-growing Villa
Miseria, or shantytown, on Buenos Aires' outskirts.

Every time a visitor clicks on the site's donate a free meal
button, one child gets fed. In return, sponsors get advertising
space.

Simple. And, it seems, effective.

In the first month, corporate giants such as Citibank and Coca
Cola financed 82,000 rations in Margarita Barrientos' 'Los
Piletones' food kitchen in Villa Soldato. The site currently gets
between 12,000 and 15,000 hits a day, according to co-founder
Bryan Droznes. The average age of the volunteers is 25 and their
professions range from architect to accountant.

After four years of bitter recession, 18 million Argentines —
nearly half the population — now live below the official poverty
line, measured as families of four with incomes of less than 485
pesos ($160) a month, enough to pay for basic food and housing.

Even those who can still afford to eat are furious at a banking
freeze that has cooped up most of their hard-earned savings in
the tottering financial system. The government wants to pay them
back in long-term bonds.

All this is producing a popular outpouring of rage against
free-market policies that started to transform Argentina's
economy in the 1990s. But because the government did not rein in
public spending and financed largesse with foreign debt, the
economy finally collapsed late last year.

The country defaulted on its $141 billion public debt and the
peso has slumped 70 percent against the dollar.

Capitalism in Argentina has become a dirty word, profit has
become a dirty word, said Droznes, a young investment banker at
Salomon Smith Barney.

As a result, he says, corporate social responsibility is a top
priority among companies in Argentina today.

So far, Droznes has signed up Coca-Cola, Citibank and local
candy-maker Arcor as sponsors. But he is most interested in
getting small and medium-sized companies involved, traditionally
the backbone of Argentina's economy.

With banner-sharing and ad rotation, smaller companies can
contribute as little as 200 pesos ($65) a month, he said. In
the past they have felt the need to help but also felt they
didn't have the means.

The site is fiercely independent of government agencies and
religious groups. It has devised a foolproof way of sidestepping
a problem faced by many charity organizations in developing
nations — endemic corruption.

All sponsors' payments to the site are done by traceable wire
transfer and are immediately converted into meal tickets
supervised by French company Accor and given to the food kitchen.
Food companies, which can donate rations in exchange for ad
space, must deliver them to the kitchen's door, cutting out any
go-betweens, Droznes said.

Tough times have also brought a rising sense of social
responsibility among the population, according to Mariana
Battaglini of leading newspaper La Nacion's charitable
foundation.

For nearly two years, the paper has published for free
clasificados solidarios — a page of small ads by nonprofit
organizations seeking medical supplies, food, clothing and other
donations.

It also publishes solidarity supplements advising people on
nutrition and hunger, and giving nonprofit organizations advice
on fund-raising in times of crisis.

Capitalists? Bankers? I have no words to describe them, said
Ana Rodriguez, a furrier at an informal barter market in the
heart of Buenos Aires' financial district.

We set up our stalls here to show the bankers what they have
done to our economy, she said, closing her last trade of the
day — swapping an orange fur stole she made for three bread
rolls. All we want is to be paid for an honest day's work.

It's that sentiment that has made a hit out of a new weeknight
game show called Human Resources that interviews contestants
for the top prize — a job.

What we are trying to do here is underscore the importance of
work, so our politicians realize that citizens have a right to
work and that work gives them dignity, said Nestor Ibarra, the
show's host. On this program, we secure 22 jobs a month

The Collapse of Argentina part 4 (conclusion): the incredible shrinking economy

2002-05-20 Thread Louis Proyect

On July 15, 1955, two months before he was overthrown by the 
military, Juan Perón said:

The Perónist Revolution has ended; now begins a new constitutional 
stage without revolution … I have ceased to be the leader of the 
National Revolution in order to become President of all the 
Argentines.

The notion that he could unite all Argentines regardless of class is, 
of course, false. While Perón was not what one could call a 
theoretician, he did try to put forward a rudimentary class analysis 
in Force is the Right of Beasts. According to Donald Hodges, he 
interpreted the 1955 military coup as a showdown between two classes. 
In Hodges's words, there was the productive class of manual, 
technical and intellectual workers who allegedly consumed only what 
they produced; and the parasitic class consisting of the oligarchy, 
the clergy, and the professional politicians who lived off the 
surplus created by the productive class.

This alignment, which evoked the political philosophy of Saint-Simon, 
could not begin to do justice to the complex social relationships 
within Argentina and on an international level in the mid-1950s. 
Rather it evoked the French Revolution with its notion of a parasitic 
class. Missing from this account is any explanation why the fraction 
of the national bourgeoisie based in manufacturing, as well as large 
segments of the professional middle-classes, would abandon his 
Justicialist project. Surely, the answer was not treason, but 
rather diverse classes acting on distinct material interests.

Perón had failed to realize that the national industrial bourgeoisie 
had already begun to become integrated with North American capital. 
In some ways this paralleled the symbiotic, but dependent, 
relationship the pampas bourgeoisie had to British capital a century 
earlier.

During his years in exile, Perón always believed that the alliance 
between the working class and the industrial bourgeoisie could be 
reconstituted, but inexorable economic processes would militate 
against that outcome. From 1955 until his return to power in 1973, 
the Argentine bourgeoisie would find itself more and more co-opted by 
US imperialism or--alternatively--put out of business. The objective 
conditions for a neo-Perónist project would have been eroded beyond 
repair long before his arrival at the Ezeiza airport in 1973.

To start with, Perónism had opened the door a crack to US business 
for reasons that had nothing to do with an ideological affinity for 
Uncle Sam. Of course, once that door was opened, the jackboot of the 
US multinational would come crashing through. We should recall that 
Perón had instituted a sweeping program of nationalizations that 
affected European interests generally and Great Britain in 
particular. As such, the US became the logical trading partner, 
despite the fact that Great Britain conspired with Washington to 
block the ability of Argentina to buy American capital equipment as I 
discussed in my last post.

Argentina was also forced to look to the United States because of the 
limitations of Perónist economic policy, which fell far short of 
socialism. By failing to carry out radical land reform and failing to 
nationalize agro-export related industries, such as meatpacking and 
sugar refining, etc., Argentina failed to provide an adequate 
financial basis for future industrial development. By contrast, the 
seizure of Cuban sugar, tobacco and cattle production had not only 
created a strong base of support for the revolution among 
field-hands, it had also helped to make foreign exchange available 
for native industry such as the new bioengineering enterprises.

In the aftermath of the overthrow of Perón, solutions were put 
forward that combined deeper integration into imperialism with 
half-baked developmentalist theories. Perhaps nobody exemplified 
these contradictory impulses more than Raul Prebisch, whose Prebisch 
Plan was adopted both by the military coup that removed Perón in 
1955 and by the Arturo Frondizi government that succeeded it 
(1958-1962).

Prebisch was the commissioner of the United Nations Economic 
Commission for Latin America (ECLA) prior to his involvement with the 
post-Perón regimes. In this capacity, he developed a theory of 
import substitution which urged peripheral countries to foster 
native industry in a protectionist framework or else risk being 
swamped by the vastly superior power of core nations. He was a 
major influence on other UN economists, including Brazil's Celso 
Furtado, Samir Amin and Andre Gunder Frank--all of whom would become 
identified with the dependency school of the 1960s grouped around 
the Monthly Review.

Unlike those whom he influenced, Prebisch was no leftist. As an 
economic adviser to the military government that ruled Argentina 
prior to Perón, he proposed the creation of a central bank, whose 
directorship he would occupy between 1935 and 1943. During this 
period, Prebisch was deeply involved

paper on Argentina

2002-05-01 Thread Sam Pawlett


http://www.dieoff.com/page229.pdf


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Re: Argentina sacrificed for bankruptcy reform

2002-05-01 Thread Sabri Oncu

Here is the thing Michael,

It is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. I live quite
peacefully with many people I disagree with and indeed am known
by many as quite a gentle person.

Here is what I heard from someone when I defended Michael
Pugliese the other day, when that person, also a friend, accused
him with some silly thing without any proof:

 Sabri, thanks as always for your kind and considerate comments.

Also, on another occasion, after I made an appeal to Michael
Pugliese to correct an unintentional mistake he made, here is
what he wrote to me:

 after all I know you to be a good comrade and gentleman.

Now, if I am such a gentleman, why am I not the same gentleman
when it comes to Chris?

If you attack people, intentionally or unintentionally, they will
attack you back. If you ask them an intelligent question, most
likely they will think for an intelligent answer. Chris needs to
learn this and I don't care if he is offended or not. He offends
more people than he can comprehend.

If we are going to change the world, we better start with
ourselves. But I don't see in him that kind of an ability.

Sabri

THE STRANGEST CREATURE ON EARTH

You’re like a scorpion, my brother,
you live in cowardly darkness
like a scorpion.
You’re like a sparrow, my brother,
always in a sparrow’s flutter.
You’re like a clam, my brother,
closed like a clam, content,
And you’re frightening, my brother,
like the mouth of an extinct volcano.

Not one,
not five-
unfortunately, you number millions.
You’re like a sheep, my brother:
when the cloaked drover raises his stick,
you quickly join the flock
and run, almost proudly, to the slaughterhouse.
I mean you’re strangest creature on earth-
even stranger than the fish
that couldn’t see the ocean for the water.
And the oppression in this world
is thanks to you.
And if we’re hungry, tired, covered with blood,
and still being crushed like grapes for our wine,
the fault is yours-
I can hardly bring myself to say it,
but most of the fault, my dear brother, is yours.

Nazim Hikmet - 1947


+

I hope that Sabri was not being serious when he wrote his post.
We can
differ on politics without getting upset with each other.  The
delete key
is a more pleasant way to communicate under some circumstances.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 10:47:31PM +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
   Sabri Oncu

 I am offended that you address me as My friend and sign your
letter
 love (or as on another list, hugs), when you say you
usually try to
 avoid reading my emails.

 Please avoid them, bin them, or filter them out. If you wish
the reply to
 the point in question either agree or disagree with reasoned
arguments, not
 with patronising personal forms of address.

 We differ on some important questions. That is not the end of
the world. It
 is usually impossible to read all the posts on a email list. We
are not
 compelled to read each others posts. If it is more productive
to pursue
 debates with other list members, so be it.


 Chris Burford




Re: Argentina sacrificed for bankruptcy reform

2002-04-30 Thread Sabri Oncu

Chris writes:

 As the petering out of Argentinean revolutionary
 hopes now shows. So much for revolutionary bravado
 that fails to look at the actual balance of
 forces. Demoralising and demobilising

My Friend,

I told you once, I am telling you for the second time: your style
is annoying and hardly helps you achieve your goal, whatever your
goal is. I try to avoid your e-mails usually but as an archive
reader, clicking on that blue line is so easy that sometimes I
fail to control myself. I wish I had subscribed to the two list I
see your posts on in the individual mails mode so that I could
have filtered your mails out.

Forget about revolutionary, or even reformist, response to global
finance capital. It is not going to happen. The response will be
nationalist in my opinion and, no matter what you and I say, we
will not be able to change much. Further, I don't think there
exists anything like global finance capital. Global finance
capital is just a myth. There are finance capitals, some
regional, some national and they are not as integrated as you
think they are. They just look integrated to an outsider.

Love,

Sabri




Re: Argentina sacrificed for bankruptcy reform

2002-04-30 Thread Louis Proyect

Chris Burford:
As the petering out of Argentinan revolutionary hopes now shows. So much 
for revolutionary bravado that fails to look at the actual balance of 
forces. Demoralising and demobilising.

What in the world are you talking about? There has been little evidence in
Argentina of support for a socialist revolution. There is a crisis of
confidence in existing institutions, from the political parties to the
trade unions. This does not translate into the sort of movement that
existed, for example, in Weimar Germany where there was a Communist Party
numbering 350,000 members that attempted to take power numerous times.

Louis Proyect
Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org




Re: Re: Argentina sacrificed for bankruptcy reform

2002-04-30 Thread Chris Burford

  Sabri Oncu

I am offended that you address me as My friend and sign your letter 
love (or as on another list, hugs), when you say you usually try to 
avoid reading my emails.

Please avoid them, bin them, or filter them out. If you wish the reply to 
the point in question either agree or disagree with reasoned arguments, not 
with patronising personal forms of address.

We differ on some important questions. That is not the end of the world. It 
is usually impossible to read all the posts on a email list. We are not 
compelled to read each others posts. If it is more productive to pursue 
debates with other list members, so be it.


Chris Burford




Re: Re: Re: Argentina sacrificed for bankruptcy reform

2002-04-30 Thread Michael Perelman

I hope that Sabri was not being serious when he wrote his post.  We can
differ on politics without getting upset with each other.  The delete key
is a more pleasant way to communicate under some circumstances.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 10:47:31PM +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
   Sabri Oncu
 
 I am offended that you address me as My friend and sign your letter 
 love (or as on another list, hugs), when you say you usually try to 
 avoid reading my emails.
 
 Please avoid them, bin them, or filter them out. If you wish the reply to 
 the point in question either agree or disagree with reasoned arguments, not 
 with patronising personal forms of address.
 
 We differ on some important questions. That is not the end of the world. It 
 is usually impossible to read all the posts on a email list. We are not 
 compelled to read each others posts. If it is more productive to pursue 
 debates with other list members, so be it.
 
 
 Chris Burford
 

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Argentina sacrificed for bankruptcy reform

2002-04-29 Thread Chris Burford

If marxists disdain to take an interest in reform of global economic 
structures  on the grounds of focusing on revolutions within countries 
alone, they will leave the agenda at best to capitalist reformers like 
Gordon Brown. Brown is rationalising the already highly socialised 
functions of global finance capital. This report is based on British 
sources and is about how the USA is following Gordon Brown's lead.

It *would* make a difference whether the new system of bankruptcy for 
individual countries should be run by the IMF or the United Nations.

Even though either way no revolutionary response to the demands of global 
finance capital is possible.

As the petering out of Argentinan revolutionary hopes now shows. So much 
for revolutionary bravado that fails to look at the actual balance of 
forces. Demoralising and demobilising.

Chris Burford

London

 

Charlotte Denny Monday April 29, 2002 The Guardian

...



Now the G7 is trying to prove that it is tough enough to stand aside and 
watch a country suffer and unfortunately for Argentina, it has become the 
guinea pig.

Limiting big bailouts is a necessary reform, but there is as yet no 
alternative system in place for dealing with sovereign bankruptcies. Last 
weekend G7 finance ministers discussed a twin-track approach, however, 
with changes to bond contracts and a new international legal framework for 
dealing with bankrupt countries.

The US is keener on the pursuing the first approach, which it sees as more 
market orientated. In future, all bond contracts will contain collective 
action clauses allowing for a majority of creditors to agree to a 
restructuring deal. Such clauses are common in bonds issued in London but 
not in the New York market, with the result that so-called rogue creditors 
can hold out for full payment. In some cases, by threatening legal action, 
they have been able to secure a better deal for themselves at the expense 
of other lenders. One such creditor, Elliott Associates, a New York hedge 
fund, recently held up the restructuring of Peru's debts with a court 
challenge.

As the IMF's deputy managing director, Anne Krueger, argues, however, new 
arrangements in bond contracts are not enough to tackle the problem of 
insolvent countries.

Collective action clauses apply to all the creditors in a particular bond 
contract - but an indebted country may have many different bonds 
outstanding as well as bank loans and official debts. Agreement still has 
to be secured between different classes of creditors.

Ms Krueger has called for an international legal framework which uses some 
of the features of domestic bankruptcy systems. Countries would be able to 
declare a payments standstill while they negotiated a restructuring deal 
with creditors.

Litigation would be prohibited while the deal was being worked out. It 
would only be able to be used if a country's debt burden were clearly 
unsustainable.

The idea of an international bankruptcy system is as old as Adam Smith and 
most recently was proposed by the debt campaigners, Jubilee 2000. While 
Jubilee would prefer to see a UN appointed body adjudicate over 
restructurings, Ms Krueger proposed that the IMF should be in the driving seat.

Neither idea was received with any great enthusiasm by the US. 
Unsurprisingly, the private sector is not a big cheerleader for reform 
either, although the official representatives of the banking sector seem 
to have accepted that it is inevitable.

Privately, British officials are optimistic about the chances of progress 
this time, after years in which reforming the international financial 
architecture has been on every G7 agenda. Previously the discussion was 
deadlocked, with the Europeans insisting that fundamental reforms were 
necessary so that the private sector had to take some of the pain of debt 
writedowns and the previous US administration preferring to take a case by 
case approach to crises.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4403334,00.html

Chris Burford

London






[Fwd: Argentina update: Free fall for Duhalde's Peronism,rebel CGT breaks away]

2002-04-27 Thread Carrol Cox


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A few lines.

A week ago the Argentinean Parliament, seemingly under the inchoate
pressure of the multitude (let us quote Negri when it is worth it), and
fearing a prairie fire which would burn down to ashes even the personal
homes of the Senators and Deputies, voted against a particular law by
Remes Lenicov, the most openly pro-IMF Minister of Economy that could be
obtained after December 19th.[1] 

[The above was a _fraction_ of the truth, though an important one. The
other parcels worth considering are Duhalde's brutish demeanour vis a
vis the Parliament (in fact, he issued an ultimatum against the very
body which put him in charge), some defensive reflexes of progressive
Peronist deputies -such as Díaz Bancalari- and, most important from what
could be seen afterwards, the direct pressure of the pro-IMF governors
of the large and heavyweight provinces of Córdoba and Santa Fe, who
easily dragged Governor Solá of the definitory Province of Buenos Aires
behind them].

Remes was thus forced to resign, and Duhalde was forced to pay attention
to the Parliament when ruling. We were facing a new political crisis,
and his own Presidency was at stake. 

Eduardo Duhalde responded to the crisis by returning to the uses of
Argentina during the 1830s (and recognizing the actual situation to
which the destruction of the national state has brought us): he summoned
a meeting of the governors of the provinces who were ready to enter
talks with the central government (he even sent some military plane to
fetch a couple of governors who -most probably not lying- argued that
their provinces were so starved of funds that they could not pay for
their own trips to Buenos Aires).

The meeting lasted three days or so, and although Duhalde attempted (or
is said to have attempted) some kind of mild resistence against the
brutal impositions of the IMF, the final result was a completely pro-IMF
package. A modification of the laws of economic subversion -which
would take, such as it is now, most 
bankers to jail-, of bankrupcies -in order to make it easier for the
banks to grab companies who have failed-, further reduction of the State
structures, and a complete stop to the dripping away of the playpen
funds -which will make sure that it is the Argentinean middle classes
who pay for the megaswindle known as neoliberal economic policy.

It will probably not be known whether Duhalde actually resisted these
measures or not. If one takes into account the broad face of happiness
of the American Ambassador after the meeting agreed on all these
sinister points, then one might arrive at the conclusion that he
actually did attempt some opposition. 

[Actually, the intervention existed, it was timely, and had tremendous
effect. It came through a telephone call with the Córdoba governor J. M.
de la Sota. I do not know if the call was made _by_ de la Sota or he
received it during the meeting. But the message, which seems to have
arrived _exactly at the moment when Duhalde was exposing his interest in
an independent (that is, from IMF) plan for Argentina_, turned things
black and white: If you follow such a course, don't expect to have
anything to do with Washington any more, or words to that effect. This
anecdote portrays the degree of rotten demoralization of the Argentinean
traditional leadership]

But it is not essential.

The fact is that the most openly pro-USA governors (particularly De La
Sota, the one who Rodríguez Saá blamed personally for the Coup of State
which overthrew him early in January) explained Duhalde that if
Argentina did not reinsert herself in the international community, our
destiny was to become Albania. And the idiot -or criminal, or whatever-
caved in! No offence intended towards Albania, but the sheer comparison
is stupid. What we have here is the phenomenon of pedagogic
colonization at work.

In the meantime, about 65% or 70% of our population is against anything
that the points of agreement imply. These figures are the fraction that
every survey shows as willing to break up with the IMF forever. 

So that we will have ever stronger confrontations ahead. Of course, with
such a flimsy minded man as Duhalde at the top, one never knows what new
ridiculous alleys this tragedy will move along.

In the meantime, I am sorry I can't give more info to the friends, but I
am very busy organizing some two or three confrontational fronts. We
have achieved some successes, and we expect to be quite impressive
during the first anti-IMF mobilisation summoned by the rebel CGT of
Moyano. In fact, the left wing of Moyano's constituency is openly
airing points of view that any serious revolutionary would support.
Things are a-changing. [2]

N O T E S

[1] [The law intended to finish the playpen issue -private deposits in
dollars captured by the banking system- by imposing a forcible

The Collapse of Argentina, part 3: Juan Perón

2002-04-27 Thread Louis Proyect

Coming to terms with Juan Perón is necessary for two reasons. 
Firstly, Perónism remains an important element of Argentine politics 
today, especially in the labor movement. Secondly, in many ways Hugo 
Chavez is a Perón-like figure. For Marxists, such figures present a 
significant challenge. If we are for socialism, what is our attitude 
toward figures struggling against imperialism but who are not 
socialists? For some socialists, however, Perón was not in a 
progressive struggle with imperialism. He is seen as some kind of 
Bonapartist caudillo at best, or fascist at worst.

Before attempting to address the question of what Perón stood for, it 
is necessary to review the economic problems that faced Argentina 
prior to his ascendancy. By the early 20th century, Argentina had 
already become dominated by a coalition of the local ruling classes 
based on the ranching, grain growing in the pampas; and the 
import-export and financial sectors in Buenos Aires, which supported 
the agrarian economy. The city's proximity to the pampas made it the 
political and commercial hub of the country, just as New York City 
was for the USA. These local fractions of the bourgeoisie had 
developed a very close relationship to Great Britain that relied on 
Argentina for its agricultural exports. The emergence of refrigerated 
ships ensured that meat could arrive in British seaports without any 
loss. Prior to this technical innovation, you had to ship livestock 
that naturally lost weight during the arduous trans-oceanic voyage.

While this arrangement made Argentina relatively prosperous and 
allowed an upsurge of immigration, the economy was ultimately 
dependent on Great Britain. It also stunted local industrial growth 
since the relationship with Great Britain implied favoritism toward 
imported British manufactured goods. Local industry remained somewhat 
primitive and wage labor tended to be of an unskilled and part-time 
nature.

The Radical Party mounted the first challenge to the entrenched class 
relationships. Their social base was in the petty proprietors, 
shopkeepers, intelligentsia, professionals and labor aristocracy of 
the cities and towns. The leadership, however, came mainly from 
landed interests that were shut out of the Argentina-England 
connection. Hipólito Yrigoyen, the Radical who became president in 
1916 and again in 1928, was himself a small landowner.

Despite the name Radical, the party was incapable of breaking 
completely with the pre-existing class system. Basically, it sought 
to extend both geographically and socially the system that had 
defined Argentina's past. As long as the economy continued to expand, 
the Radical Party did not pose a threat to the status quo. The 
dominant ranchers and bankers probably understood that the system 
needed loosening up for it to survive over the long haul. With such a 
low level of class struggle in a period of rising economic 
expectations, it is no wonder that some segments of the labor 
movement developed reformist illusions. Corradi writes:

The undisputed economic hegemony of the landed elite throughout this 
period of middle-class government is even more clearly revealed by 
the vicissitudes of the Argentine socialist movement. That movement 
was born in the 1880's when inflation devoured the incomes of the 
incipient working class. With the subsequent expansion of Argentine 
exports, the favorable terms of trade stabilized the currency. Thus, 
the success of the elite's economic program won for them the support 
of the socialists, who from then on sought reform and not revolution. 
Social mobility also contributed to the bourgeois tendencies of the 
socialists. Eventually they became junior partners of the 
establishment. These are the historical roots of a spectacle that 
would puzzle some observers in 1945, when socialists and communists 
demonstrated against Perón in the company of reactionary landlords.

After Yrigoyen's re-election in 1928, things changed radically. With 
the stock market crash, the prices of meat and grain fell. 
Consequently, Argentina's gold reserves flowed outward to pay for 
imported goods. Multiplier effects worsened the economy overall and 
before long Argentina was in a deep social and economic crisis 
comparable to the one being suffered today. General discontent 
provoked the dominant landed and banking sectors to back a military 
coup against Yrigoyen and on September 6, 1930 General José Felix 
Uriburu came to power.

Despite being thrust into power by the old agrarian ruling class, the 
military junta was forced willy-nilly to address Argentina's 
underlying economic weaknesses. This led to the adoption of public 
works projects of a Keynsian nature. It also forced Argentina to 
begin a policy of national industrialization based on what is 
commonly known as import substitution. This policy is associated 
with the name of Raul Prebisch, an Argentine economist who strongly 
influenced the dependency

Argentina

2002-04-23 Thread Ian Murray


[From the BBC]
Tuesday, 23 April, 2002, 19:11 GMT 20:11 UK
Argentine economy chief quits


Argentina's economy minister has quit after less than four months in the post, as
concerns grew over Argentina's economic crisis.

Jorge Remes Lenicov's resignation followed a decision by Argentine politicians to
delay a vote on his last-ditch package for preventing a collapse in the country's
banking system.

He also failed in meetings to secure loans from the International Monetary Fund to
tackle Argentina's grave economic crisis.

President Eduardo Duhalde has accepted Mr Remes Lenicov's resignation, an economy
ministry spokesman said.

The minister's rescue plan proposed allowing Argentine banks to convert about 60%
of deposits into government bonds - in effect forcing people to lend money to the
government.

Economic reforms

Protesters had gathered earlier on Tuesday outside the upper house of Argentina's
parliament to register their unease at the progress of economic reform.

Argentines were told that banks, closed since the weekend, would remain shut until
Friday, when Congress was set to have completed its debate of the proposed legal
changes.

The bank closures were ordered to prevent panic withdrawals by account holders who,
rightly, feared that high-level talks to restart aid payments to Argentina would
fail.

The account holders were also spooked by the rapidly falling value of the country's
currency, the peso.

The move to close the banks partially succeeded, in that the withdrawals were
indeed stopped.

But the public mood turned sour when Mr Duhalde promised the International Monetary
Fund that he would push ahead with economic and legal reforms and a serious
belt-tightening exercise.

Thousands of Argentines took to the streets on Monday, raising fears of a return of
the kind of unrest which prompted President Fernando de la Rua to resign in
December.

Reaction

Mr Remes Lenicov, a long-time political partner of Mr Duhalde, was welcomed as a
low-profile, calm and non-confrontational economy minister following the reign of
his flamboyant predecessor, Domingo Cavallo.

But Mr Remes Lenicov's decision to allow the continued slide in the peso provoked
disquiet.

He must realize the devaluation, which was his bright idea, has been an appalling
failure, said political analyst James Neilson.

Confidence in Mr Remes Lenicov was severely undermined when he returned empty
handed from talks with the IMF.

And concerns over the deposits-for-bonds swap proved the final straw.

It's essentially a reflection of the failure of his bonds plan, said Ben Laidler,
Argentine equity strategist at UBS Warburg, who described the resignation as bad
news.

Whereas the bond plan was going to be really grim for the man on the street, it
was generally seen as the orthodox way out of a really nightmarish situation.

Rafael Ber, an analyst at Argentine Research said the investor reaction to the
resignation would depend much on who was chosen to replace Mr Remes.

How the market reacts depends on who it is. If it's Energy Secretary Alieto
Guadagni, the market will take it as something positive.






Re: Argentina

2002-04-23 Thread Sabri Oncu

Here is one more. Sabri

==

Police Shield Argentine Congress From Public Fury
Tue Apr 23, 1:24 PM ET
By Stephen Brown

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (Reuters) - Armed police ringed
Argentina's Congress Tuesday to protect legislators from public
anger at plans to convert their bank deposits into government
bonds in a last-ditch effort to save banks from collapse.

Mobs taunted and chased Congressional staff late Monday,
prompting police to escort frightened senators and deputies from
the building. Tuesday, hundreds of police blocked roads near the
Congress to keep back protesters who began to gather again,
furious at the prospect of their savings being converted into
low-interest bonds.

We won't accept these bonds under any circumstance. We want our
dollars back, said one man rallying a growing crowd of
protesters banging pots and pans.

Legislators planned to wait until nightfall to debate the
unpopular government bill that would convert savings into bonds
issued by a state which inspires little confidence, having
defaulted on part of its $140 billion of sovereign debt in
January after four years of recession.

On the second day of a four-day bank holiday imposed to halt the
panicky exit of money from the financial system while the law is
processed, the misery for ordinary people deprived of access to
cash deepened with shopkeepers announcing they were suspending
purchases with credit and debit cards until the banks reopen.

The suspension is general, not just in gas stations, but in the
rest of the shops as well, said Ruben Manusovich, head of the
shopkeepers' association Fedecamaras, as merchants do not want to
assume the risk of payments with cards issued by the banks.

BLACKMAIL

Latin America's No. 3 economy was plunged into chaos in early
January when it ditched a decade-old one-to-one peg to the U.S.
dollar.

Despite a freeze on term deposits and limits on cash withdrawals
imposed in December, the peso currency has since tumbled to over
3 per dollar while the banks lose tens of millions of pesos in
deposits every day.

Some judges have ruled the freeze unlawful and ordered savings
returned. One judge even had the safe of a bank cut open Monday
to return a depositor's money.

But will all the banks closed, those with any money left, were
forced to comb the streets Monday and Tuesday looking for ATMs to
withdraw cash.

Some legislators see the protracted bank holiday as a way of
forcing them to speed through the drastic legislation Saying the
banks will be closed until Congress votes is an unacceptable form
of blackmail, said Sen. Juan Carlos Passo of the opposition
Radical Party.

But President Eduardo Duhalde said Monday the bank holiday and
bond swap were the only way to secure minimum financial support
from the International Monetary Fund (news - web sites), and told
Congress, which made him caretaker president until 2003 amid the
January upheaval, that it could remove him if it disagreed.

The IMF has conditioned any new aid on Argentina stabilizing the
banking system and bringing spendthrift provinces to heel. The
reported $5 billion of aid in the pipeline would only be enough
to roll over Argentina's IMF debt, but would likely open other
channels of aid.

The World Bank (news - web sites)'s envoy to Argentina, Myrna
Alexander, told a business conference Tuesday she believed
Duhalde was trying to give people the chance to get back their
savings in the future.

BANKS' ROLE

Most legislators have agreed to pass the bill, but do not want
banks to get away scot-free, offloading depositors on the state
via the issue of government bonds.

One inescapable condition is that the banks don't evade their
responsibilities, said Sen. Marcelo Lopez Arias of Duhalde's
Peronist Party.

There are two positions: either we take the side of the banks or
we take the side of the people, said Peronist deputy Mario
Becerra.

Meanwhile, foreign banks here blame local authorities for dashing
faith in the financial system by declaring a freeze on deposits
in December in order to save Argentine-owned banks suffering
liquidity problems.

Making huge provisions for Argentine operations, foreign banks
are not keen to recapitalize them, raising doubts they will stay.

British banking giant HSBC said Tuesday it had no plans to pull
out of Argentina, but senior executive David Eldon added: We
will not be inclined to put any more money into Argentina at this
stage. We would like to be in a position to work with the IMF,
with the government, with the regulators to see if there are ways
in which we can assist.

Bankers are about as popular as politicians in a country that has
seen daily protests since the peso was devalued, triggering sharp
inflation and memories of the 5,000 percent hyperinflation seen
here a decade ago.

In a country of 36 million people bowed by 20 percent
unemployment and 45 percent poverty, the growing desperation was
evident.

About 1,000 unemployed people marched on the town hall of
Duhalde's home town

Re: Argentina

2002-04-23 Thread Devine, James

speaking of Argentina, pen-pals may enjoy the recent movie from Argentina,
The Nine Queens (in Spanish, with subtitles). It's an interesting film
about con artists, including some mild social commentary. One thing is how
much Buenos Aires looks like a North American city... JD




Argentina: Crocodile Tears

2002-04-22 Thread Sabri Oncu

Sympathy, but no cash
Apr 22nd 2002
From The Economist Global Agenda


As Argentina’s financial crisis continues to deepen, any hopes
that new help might soon be forthcoming from the International
Monetary Fund have quickly faded. Argentina will have to deliver
concrete reforms first


CROCODILE tears. That must be how the Argentine government views
the messages of sympathy for the country’s economic and financial
plight which emerged from a series of meetings in Washington, DC,
at the weekend. The Argentine finance minister, Jorge Remes
Lenicov, had hoped that the G7 finance ministers and the
International Monetary Fund (IMF) would provide some hard cash.
Instead, he got little more than lunch.

Viewed from Buenos Aires, this reluctance to commit new financial
support is hard to take. The government of President Eduardo
Duhalde inherited a catastrophic collapse of Argentina’s economy
and its financial system. Latin America’s third-largest economy
was forced to default on its huge public debt (the largest
sovereign-debt default in history) and to break a decade-old
currency peg with the American dollar. The Argentine peso is now
worth less than one third of its value of just a few months ago.
The economy is in its fourth year of recession and unemployment
is at least 20%, possibly much higher. On April 19th, the day
before Mr Remes’s rendezvous with the G7 ministers, the
authorities closed all banks indefinitely in a desperate attempt
to stop the continuing drain on bank reserves. The banks are
unlikely to reopen until emergency legislation has been passed
obliging depositors to accept government bonds instead of cash.
How can the international community remain unyielding?

The sympathy of senior IMF officials and G7 finance ministers
appears genuine. There is recognition of the upheaval that
Argentina is now experiencing. But there is also frustration that
Argentina still seems unable or unwilling to take the action
necessary to reform its economy. Without the changes demanded by
the IMF in return for further help, both the Fund and its
principal rich-country shareholders take the view that any extra
cash they stump up would disappear down a black hole.

There is relatively little difference in opinion between the IMF
and the government in Buenos Aires on what ultimately needs to be
done. The argument is about whether reform or new assistance
should come first. The Argentine government appears to believe
that some of the conditions demanded for the provision of new
money are unreasonable and unrealistic. In particular, both the
government and the IMF recognise the need to curb overspending by
provincial governments, although the Fund insists reform is a
precondition of further help.

Hanging over the current negotiations is the stinging criticism
of many economists: that the IMF should not have bailed out
Argentina last August, when it supplied a further $8 billion as
part of a deal which should have included reform of public
finances. In the event, the package simply postponed Argentina’s
default and the de-coupling of its currency from the dollar—a
move which economists had said was inevitable. And public finance
reform has yet to be tackled effectively.

The IMF’s relatively new first deputy managing director, Anne
Krueger, said recently that even with hindsight it is possible to
defend the August decision. And other economists have pointed out
that it was particularly in the last quarter of last year, as
Argentina’s fate became obvious—except to the then government in
Buenos Aires—that the risk premium on the country’s debt started
to rise sharply above that for other emerging-market economies.
This differentiation of risk played an important part in limiting
the fall-out from Argentina’s collapse. So far, the contagion
that was so apparent in previous emerging-market crises has been
noticeably absent in Argentina’s case.

Whatever the merits of the August bail-out, there now seems to be
unanimity that any new package should involve unbreakable
commitments from Argentina to undertake reforms. That seems to
mean delivering those reforms, or at least making a convincing
start to them, up front. This is now something Mr Remes will have
to reflect on with President Duhalde. The IMF’s managing
director, Horst Köhler, said on April 20th that he did not expect
further negotiations until the IMF team returns to Buenos Aires
next month.

The World Bank, meanwhile, is examining the scope for providing
humanitarian aid to Argentina to ease the plight of the poorest
citizens. And all those involved are trying to draw lessons from
the Argentine experience. The G7 has agreed to change the way
emerging-market governments issue sovereign debt in order to
reduce the risk of default or make them less disruptive. The IMF
is working on other far-reaching proposals.

IMF economists have also been examining why Latin American
countries seem unusually susceptible to disruptive financial
crises. One key finding

Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-22 Thread Bill Burgess

At 11:17 AM 21/04/2002 +0800, Grant wrote:

That wasn't my contention, which is more accurately that except for actual
formal/military imperialism, (e.g. Britain in India) imperialist and
imperialised have always been poles on a notional axis, rather than being
distinct and permanent things. I mean are you saying that there is little
difference between the present positions (relative and absolute) of the
economies and overseas political influence of Malaysia and Indonesia,
compared now with what they were 50 years ago?

Nothing is pure or permanent, but yes, Malaysia and Indonesia are still 
imperialist-dominated countries (and also still in a different way than 
lesser imperialists Australia and New Zealand).

  The best recent candidate for the 'imperial' club is probably s. Korea, 
 but, hello, this country is divided in half, occupied by US nukes...

Forces which, some would argue, have assisted the South Korean national
bourgeoisie in the same way that the capitalist economies of Japan, Taiwan
and the old West Germany grew significantly as armed camps.

S Korea ...
 could do
  _nothing_ if Japan, Europe and the US stopped imports from s. Korea with a
  stroke of a pen.

Why would they do that? And there's always China...

For protectionist reasons, like the current US tariffs on s. Korean steel. 
Korean capitalists are impressive, but they are more vulnerable than 
capitalists in Japan or Germany. s. Korea and Taiwan were assisted to stop 
'communism', but I don't see either of them being let into the imperialist 
club. It is possible, but a lot of this kind of talk has been cooled by the 
'Asian' financial crisis.

One point of the stats was that the highly imperialised Kenya is
imperialist in regard to neighbouring countries, as shown (e.g.) by the
restrictions on Kenyan investment. Nigeria is an even stronger case.

Yes, imperialized countries often dominate weaker neighbours, but I think 
the concept of imperialism should be reserved for geo-politics at a larger 
scale. And Kenya's outward FDI/GDP is only 1.5%; one-fifth of the inward 
rate. Nigeria's outward FDI/GDP is an impressive 31%, but still less than 
inward FDI/GDP at 51%. I mentioned South Africa before, but forgot to 
include the rates - inward FDI/GDP is 13.4% and outward FDI/GDP 24.8%. We 
need to look at other criteria, but the FDI numbers suggest that in Africa 
the only candidate for imperialist status is South Africa.

  As you can see, Belgium and Switzerland show high rates of outward FDI, 
 and most FDI is to and from Europe - and almost nothing is _from_ the 
 likes of Argentina, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia.

I note that the HK and Singaporean outward FDI figures cited are higher 
than any of the European states you have cited, except Switzerland.

Fair enough, but, again, I think 'real' imperialist status requires a 
bigger real-estate base than these city-states. They are 
historical/geographical accidents/exceptions who lack the (more) 
independent economic base characteristic of  'real' imperialists. Bill R. 
also notes that it is important to consider the extent to which their FDI 
data reflects investors from other countries (this is probably also very 
relevant for the Swiss data).

Substitute longer term declines in prices
for wheat (which in the 1950s was worth more than three times what it is
now), beef and other commodities and you have substantial structural
problems for Argentina and Australia, both of which (unlike Indonesia or
Malaysia) have also both experienced a withering of their manufacturing
industries in the last 30 years.

The source I cited also reports a decline in the index for Australian coal 
from 55.9 in 1980 to 32.6 in 1997. However, in general terms the point is 
that the prices of goods produced by the rich imperialist countries have 
risen relative to those produced by poor imperialized countries. The 
Argentina-Australia comparison is very much on point. Have their 
manufacturing sectors really followed similar paths in recent decades? I 
don't have the data for Argentina on hand, but the OECD STAN database shows 
that per capita manufacturing output in Australia in 1997 was over US$8000, 
and total manufacturing output was over 5 times greater than in 1970, and 
about 25% greater than in 1989. (current US$). I think this suggests a 
different kind of 'withering' than in Argentina.

There are obviously more non-thieves and fewer thieves in imperialised
countries than in imperial ones; we will never stop thievery by
encouraging the smaller thieves.

It is my fault for having started this inelegant metaphor, so...

Bill




Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada (Entrepôts)

2002-04-22 Thread Grant Lee

Bill R:

Thanks for a very interesting post and the references, which I haven't had
time to check yet.

I haven't been able to pinpoint the exact quote, but somewhere in _Capital_
Marx (slightly tongue-in-cheek) quotes Adam Smith saying that all entrepôts
are barbaric; Marx's point being that monopolies of foreign trade were the
main way in which metropolitan bourgeoisies exploited colonial bourgeoisies.
How times change.

Regards,

Grant.


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Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada (and US foreign investment)

2002-04-20 Thread Bill Rosenberg

Charles Brown wrote:

 Profits aside, two features of FDI which seem to clearly differentiate developed
 and developing countries (in the context of the US foreign investment thread,
 imperial vs neo-colonies) appear to be the balance between inward and outward
 investment stock (biased towards outward for developed countries; overwhelmingly
 inward for developing
 
 
 
 CB: Might this be termed export of capital   ?

It could be expressed as net export of capital, but that would cover up the fact
that most capital exports are from one developed country to another.

Bill




Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-20 Thread Grant Lee

Louis:

 For the
 foreseeable future, places like Argentina and Venezuela are on the
 front lines. In places such as these, anti-imperialist consciousness
 will fuel the proletarian revolution just as it did in Vietnam, Cuba,
 China and many other countries where victory was not achived.

The main advantage held by revolutionaries in Russia in 1917, China in the
1940s, Cuba and Vietnam in the 50s was class consciousness and/or the
opposition of weak/unpopular states. What they did not have were the fully
developed capitalist economies which would have ensured the long term
success of their revolutions.

 I wouldn't compare what
 happened in Australia to what happened to Nicaragua, however.

Me either.

 The USA
 could have lived with a Labor government in Australia. It was on the
 other hand ready to break laws and risk a constitutional crisis to
 topple a government that it feared would become another Cuba.

You have correctly identified the percieved threat to important US
satellite/communications bases (e.g. Pine Gap, Nurrungar and North West
Cape) as the main reason why the US state wanted rid of Whitlam. His
government was also a direct threat to accumulation by US companies; there
were strong left nationalists in his cabinet who were committed to
nationalisation of mineral/petroleum ressources owned by US companies. There
were other reasons as well, such as Whitlam's embarrassment of Nixon's
foreign policy (e.g. unilateral withdrawal of Australian troops from Vietnam
and his criticism of US foreign policy generally.)

 In a letter to Marx, dated October 7, 1858, Engels wrote: ...The
 English proletariat is actually becoming more and more bourgeois, so
 that this most bourgeois of all nations is apparently aiming
 ultimately at the possession of a bourgeois aristocracy and a
 bourgeois proletariat alongside the bourgeoisie. For a nation which
 exploits the whole world this is of course to a certain extent
 justifiable.

 In a letter to Kautsky, dated September 12, 1882, Engels wrote: You
 ask me what the English workers think about colonial policy. Well,
 exactly the same as they think about politics in general. There is no
 workers' party here, there are only Conservatives and
 Liberal-Radicals. and the workers gaily share the feast of England's
 monopoly of the world market and the colonies.

What these quotes do not show is that Marx's view, especially at the end of
his life, was very long term. English wage labourers in 1858 were --- apart
from Australia and other settler societies --- the best paid working class
in the world. English workers benefited directly from the economic growth
driven by formal/military imperialism and directly from cheap consumer goods
produced overseas. These things could hardly lend themselves to
revolutionary class consciousness. But the end had to come and it did. No
one could say in 2002 that class consciousness or pauperisation is absent in
England.

Regards,

Grant.




Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-20 Thread Grant Lee

Bill B.:

 Hong Kong   65.772
 Saudi Arabia22.71.3
 s. Korea6.1 6.5
 Taiwan  7.8 14.7
 New Zealand 66.211
 Israel  11.16.8
 Spain   21.512.5
 Austria 11.38.2
 Sweden  22.541.3
 Belgium 61.750.2
 Switzerland 26.569.1

 I cited the FDI/GDP ratios against the suggestion that FDI from the likes
 of Malaysia and Indonesia is dissolving the cardinal difference between
 imperialist and imperialized countries.

That wasn't my contention, which is more accurately that except for actual
formal/military imperialism, (e.g. Britain in India) imperialist and
imperialised have always been poles on a notional axis, rather than being
distinct and permanent things. I mean are you saying that there is little
difference between the present positions (relative and absolute) of the
economies and overseas political influence of Malaysia and Indonesia,
compared now with what they were 50 years ago?

 HK and Singapore are entrepots, and
 they are city-economies, which indicates the need to qualify the
 significance of their numbers

It seems to me that if no western state is very similar --- and I'm not
convinced this is the case --- to HK and Singapore it would  have a lot to
do with the latter being extremely small, densely populated city states and
therefore more focused on foreign trade.

 The
 best recent candidate for the 'imperial' club is probably s. Korea, but,
 hello, this country is divided in half, occupied by US nukes...

Forces which, some would argue, have assisted the South Korean national
bourgeoisie in the same way that the capitalist economies of Japan, Taiwan
and the old West Germany grew significantly as armed camps.

S Korea ...
could do
 _nothing_ if Japan, Europe and the US stopped imports from s. Korea with a
 stroke of a pen.

Why would they do that? And there's always China...

 I think the difference between
 presenting a NZ passport and a Malaysian passport helps clarify the social
 relationships in world imperialism.

That would depend on where they travelled to I think.


 Don't know what you mean with the Kenya stats, but there is _zero_  danger
 of Kenya going imperialist in any serious use of the term.

One point of the stats was that the highly imperialised Kenya is
imperialist in regard to neighbouring countries, as shown (e.g.) by the
restrictions on Kenyan investment. Nigeria is an even stronger case.


 As you can see, Belgium and Switzerland show high rates of outward FDI,
and
 most FDI is to and from Europe - and almost nothing is _from_ the likes of
 Argentina, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia.

I note that the HK and Singaporean outward FDI figures cited are higher than
any of the European states you have cited, except Switzerland.

 Trade/GDP in Austria is 44% and 38% in Switzerland, again, most trade is
 with fellow imperialist countries, not semi-colonial countries. They enjoy
 'free' trade, not the imperialist protectionism and unequal exchange faced
 by Malaysia or Indonesia. The price index for their manufactured goods
 _rose_ from 72 in 1980 to 108 in 1997, while logs from Malaysia dropped
 from 272 to 221, Indonesia's coffee producers faced a coffee index decline
 from  450.4 to 161.2  !!! The index for cotton fell from 284.3 to
162.2
 and for rubber from 197.9 to 94.5 (indexes from World Bank, World
 Development Indicators).

Yes, these are striking downturns. Substitute longer term declines in prices
for wheat (which in the 1950s was worth more than three times what it is
now), beef and other commodities and you have substantial structural
problems for Argentina and Australia, both of which (unlike Indonesia or
Malaysia) have also both experienced a withering of their manufacturing
industries in the last 30 years.

 If we can't distinguish between a big thief taking from a smaller thief
and
 theft from non-thieves we will never stop thievery.

There are obviously more non-thieves and fewer thieves in imperialised
countries than in imperial ones; we will never stop thievery by
encouraging the smaller thieves.

Regards,

Grant.




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-20 Thread Bill Rosenberg

Grant Lee wrote:

  HK and Singapore are entrepots, and
  they are city-economies, which indicates the need to qualify the
  significance of their numbers
 
 It seems to me that if no western state is very similar --- and I'm not
 convinced this is the case --- to HK and Singapore it would  have a lot to
 do with the latter being extremely small, densely populated city states and
 therefore more focused on foreign trade.

The international stats (e.g. World Bank, WTO) seem to highlight only Singapore
and Hong Kong as being major re-exporters. This is presumably due to historical,
colonial and geographical factors as much as their size.

If you want a fascinating glimpse into how it works in Hong Kong (the tolling
operations, rundown of manufacturing, use by transnationals etc) have a look at
Intermediaries in Entrepôt Trade: Hong Kong Re-Exports of Chinese Goods, by
Robert C. Feenstra Department of Economics, University of California, Davis and
National Bureau of Economic Research, and Gordon H. Hanson, Department of
Economics and School of Business Administration, University of Michigan and
NBER, December 2000. Also published as NBER paper W8088. It's on both Hanson's
(http://webuser.bus.umich.edu/gohanson/gohanson.html#WorkingPapers) and the NBER
web sites.

I wrote up some of this when looking at the consequences for New Zealand of a
FTA with HK (currently under negotiation but faltering) - see
http://canterbury.cyberplace.org.nz/community/CAFCA/publications/Trade/GlobalisationByStealth.pdf

 
  The
  best recent candidate for the 'imperial' club is probably s. Korea, but,
  hello, this country is divided in half, occupied by US nukes...
 
 Forces which, some would argue, have assisted the South Korean national
 bourgeoisie in the same way that the capitalist economies of Japan, Taiwan
 and the old West Germany grew significantly as armed camps.
 

Though what is happening to the S Korean national bourgeoisie post-1997
financial crisis, with many of the most powerful corporations being wound up or
sold to European and US TNCs?

  I think the difference between
  presenting a NZ passport and a Malaysian passport helps clarify the social
  relationships in world imperialism.
 
 That would depend on where they travelled to I think.

What do social relationships mean when discussing imperialism? New Zealand
(along with Australia) takes an imperialist position in the South Pacific, where
it is a relatively big fish amongst tiny ones. But that is hardly a fertile
source of resources: New Zealand's income and living standards would barely
change if that role disappeared. New Zealand's main role is as a footman to the
imperialists, and its role in the S Pacific reflects that - carrying the good
words of neoliberalism to the governments there, acting as policeman when needs
be. But as footman, it mainly gets crumbs from the imperial table in terms of
trade access and dependence on their capital. Australia has a stronger imperial
role (especially north of it in PNG, E Timor, etc) but in reality is not much
different in the pecking order to New Zealand.

 I note that the HK and Singaporean outward FDI figures cited are higher than
 any of the European states you have cited, except Switzerland.

Again, I suspect a large part of their outward FDI is in fact from branches of
companies from other countries. In Hong Kong's case that is esp mainland China,
but also all the usual suspects. I looked at that in New Zealand's case:
In 12 of the 72 cases I listed from statutory approvals over the last decade, no
genuine Hong Kong investment was involved, and an additional five included Hong
Kong investors among third country investors. Countries represented whose
investors were using Hong Kong as a base to invest in New Zealand (in addition
to investors from Hong Kong itself) include Australia, Bangladesh, China,
Indonesia, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Monaco, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Switzerland,
the U.K., and the U.S.A. In addition, in two instances, New Zealand investors
were using Hong Kong companies to invest here.

In addition, a large part of HK businesses' time seems to be spent circulating
their capital through tax havens (see
the info I gave in my previous post). Even 15-16% corporate tax rates still
provide incentives for tax avoidance apparently. 

But that certainly does not mean all, or even the majority of their outward
FDI is sourced elsewhere - both HK and Singapore (in that case, often the
Singapore government) now have very strong national capital.

Bill




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada (and US foreign investment)

2002-04-19 Thread Bill Rosenberg

Ratios of inward and outward FDI stock to GDP, and FDI flows to gross fixed
capital formation are tabulated for most countries in the various World
Investment Reports of UNCTAD. They also calculate a transnationality index of
FDI host countries, which averages the four shares: FDI flows (as a percentage
of GFCF), FDI inward stocks as a percentage of GDP, value added of foreign
affiliates as a percentage of GDP, and employment of foreign affiliates as a
precentage of total employment. The developed countries which the 2000 report
tabulates (with New Zealand at the top!) average around 13%, and the tabulated
developing countries 14%.

Unfortunately they don't seem interested in tabulating profits!

It's difficult to say what profit figures would show. The ability of TNCs to
transfer their profits from one country another for tax, political or internal
reasons must make the profit attributed to their operations in any one country
arbitrary to a degree.

Even without deliberate transfer pricing, it is conceivable that (say) Nike
would put up with lower rates of profit in Indonesia because the manufacture of
its shoes is such a small part of the cost. Most of the profits may well be made
elsewhere in the chain of distribution and sale. I'm not saying that it
necessarily happens like that, but it is quite conceivable.

To say TNCs chase cheap labour is to oversimplify. Certainly that is an
important part of their motivation, but since around 76% of FDI was to developed
countries (in 1999) - and 90% of mergers and acquisitions - it isn't the whole
story. Other motivations include domination of their selected markets,
increasing scale for competitive reasons, and security of investment.

Profits aside, two features of FDI which seem to clearly differentiate developed
and developing countries (in the context of the US foreign investment thread,
imperial vs neo-colonies) appear to be the balance between inward and outward
investment stock (biased towards outward for developed countries; overwhelmingly
inward for developing); and greenfield vs mergers/acquisition investment (over
80% of FDI was MAs for all countries in 1999; but about one third of FDI to
developing countries).

Grant Lee remarks below that Singapore's inward FDI is still  well above
outward FDI in this city-state where annual trade is also 160%  !!!  of GDP.
Singapore has unusually high FDI, but its high level of trade is no mystery.
Like Hong Kong, it has a huge entrepot function, with high levels of
re-exports - importing for the purpose of re-exporting with little or no work
done on the goods on the way through. In 1999 Hong Kong (popn about 6 million)
had the world's 10th largest international trading volume (mainland China was
9th). In 2000 88.5% of its exports were re-exports, a third of these to mainland
China. Its foreign investment is even more remarkable (and
statistics-distorting!): with the exceptions of China and its former colonial
master, the U.K., the top-ranked sources and destinations of Hong Kong
investment are the tax havens of the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands,
and Bermuda (1998 figures). The ownership of this investment is certainly
elsewhere, including the U.S., Europe, Hong Kong itself, and China.

Bill


Grant Lee wrote:
 
 Bill Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  country inward FDI stock/GDPoutward FDI stock/GDP
  Canada  23.9%   26.9%
  Australia   28.117.1
  UK  23.335.9
  France  11.715.9
  Singapore   85.856.1
  Malaysia67.022.7
  Indonesia   73.32.4
  Argentina   13.95.4
  Brazil  17.11.4
 
 Interesting figures. I haven't had time to look at the comparable figures
 for other countries. In any case they don't prove a permanent/structural
 exclusion from imperial activity. For example, what about Hong Kong
 (pre-1997, not that it is yet a homogenous part of China)? The last I heard
 there was hardly any manufacturing left in Hong Kong because proprietors had
 shifted operations to the mainland. South Africa? Saudi Arabia?
 
  Note the
  obvious difference in rates of outward FDI, plus the fact that most FDI by
  Canada, France, etc. is in other imperialist countries while most FDI by
  Indonesia, Argentina, etc. is in fellow semi-colonies.
 
 Every bourgeoisie has to start somewhere. For example --- and I'm not going
 to revisit the complexities and vitriol of the Kenya Debate --- but I just
 came across this on the web:
 
 Andrea Goldstein and Njuguna S. Ndung'u, OECD Development Centre Technical
 Paper No. 171: New Forms Of Co-Operation And Integration In Emerging Africa
 Regional Integration Experience, March 2001.
 
 quote: (p. 16) Table 5. Import Sources (1997)*
 
 (From)Kenya Tanzania Uganda
 
 (To)Kenya-0

Re: Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada (and US foreign investment)

2002-04-19 Thread Louis Proyect

On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 00:37:28 +1200, Bill Rosenberg wrote:

It's difficult to say what profit figures would
show. The ability of TNCs to transfer their
profits from one country another for tax,
political or internal reasons must make the
profit attributed to their operations in any one
country arbitrary to a degree.

It is absolutely necessary to dispense with the idea that imperialism 
is identical to multinationals seeking out countries where labor is 
cheap and profits are high. Imperialism is operative even when there 
is not a single US corporation or subsidiary on foreign soil.

Take the petroleum industry, for example, an essential piece in the 
jigsaw puzzle of imperialism. Saudi Arabian and Venezuelan oil wells 
are owned by the government, but are forced to deal with 
Anglo-American corporations that market the finished product. With 
pliant governments, the US can continue to bleed these countries dry 
even if it is not operating on foreign soil.

This is also true of agro-export. For example, Colombia capitalists 
own all of the plantations but are forced to deal with much bigger 
and more powerful US marketing operations that buy and process the 
raw beans. In general, third world cartels for products like coffee 
beans, etc. are at a much bigger disadvantage than oil exporters, who 
can at least cause shocks to the world system if they cut back on 
production. Higher coffee prices might cause grumbling at Starbucks, 
but they won't bring the advanced countries' economy crashing down.

Finally, many maquilas are typically not owned directly by US 
corporations or subsidiaries. Nike would prefer to line up local 
subcontractors who it can then blame for abuses to the work-force.

This, of course, is not to say that North American auto production in 
places like Mexico is driven by the need to compete with Korea and 
Japan. There is a drive to the bottom. However, to fully understand 
the operations of imperialism, you have to look at the full 
constellation of class relations not just multinational behavior.


-- 
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Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Jannuzi

LP:

But I wouldn't compare what happened in Australia to what happened to
Nicaragua, however. The USA could have lived with a Labor government in
Australia. It was on the other hand ready to break laws and risk a
constitutional crisis to topple a government that it feared would become
another Cuba.

US policies toward New Zealand came damn close when NZ objected to US ships
not confirming whether or not they carried nukes in NZ waters and harbors.
In the case of Australia, the US has taken the place of GB as key 'military
ally' and you could argue the post-war US-Australia relationship has become
neo-imperial.
I found it interesting that a US firm so closely linked to the US imperium
should be operating the immigrant prisoner camps in Australia. But then
again, it was also interesting that this security firm got sold to a Danish
company (which I know nothing about, though).

Charles Jannuzi





Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-19 Thread Louis Proyect

On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 22:46:00 +0900, Charles Jannuzi wrote:
US policies toward New Zealand came damn close
when NZ objected to US ships not confirming
whether or not they carried nukes in NZ waters
and harbors.
In the case of Australia, the US has taken the
place of GB as key 'military ally' and you could
argue the post-war US-
Australia relationship has become neo-imperial.

Perhaps we have a different definition of imperialism. I don't regard 
US bullying and imperialism as the same thing. Switzerland and Sweden 
have never bullied anybody in recent years, but they are imperialist 
powers. US imperialism rules the roost, but it has junior partners 
including Australia and New Zealand. One of the unfortunate 
consequences of the humanitarian intervention in East Timor is that 
it has legitimized the imperial ambitions of the Oceania powers.

-- 
Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/19/2002

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Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Jannuzi

LP:

 Perhaps we have a different definition of imperialism. I don't regard
 US bullying and imperialism as the same thing. Switzerland and Sweden
 have never bullied anybody in recent years, but they are imperialist
 powers. US imperialism rules the roost, but it has junior partners
 including Australia and New Zealand. One of the unfortunate
 consequences of the humanitarian intervention in East Timor is that
 it has legitimized the imperial ambitions of the Oceania powers.

 --
 Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on

I guess my point was that exploiter can easily become the exploited when the
US involved. As any US citizen should know.

C. Jannuzi




Re: Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-19 Thread Michael Pugliese

   April 5, 1998

THE SWISS, THE GOLD, AND THE DEAD
By Jean Ziegler.
Translated by John Brownjohn.
322 pp. New York:
Harcourt Brace  Company. $27.

(Review)

Gnomes and Nazis
An account of Switzerland's role in financing Germany's war machine.
By PETER GROSE

(Peter Grose, a research fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, is 
the biographer of Allen Dulles. He is completing a book on covert action in 
East Europe during the cold war.)


The day of reckoning for mighty Switzerland has been long in coming. In the 
manner of a post-modern Zola, an angry man of letters, Jean Ziegler, has thrown 
down his J'accuse with The Swiss, the Gold, and the Dead, and brigades of 
auditors, financiers, factors, historians, lawyers and publicists are trying to 
cope with it.

During the cold war, successive Swiss generations wrote off the ambiguities of 
the World War II era as the time-honored way of neutrality. The enormous self-
enrichment that grew from the financing of Hitler's war machine came, it was 
always said, through Switzerland's normal banking acumen. The disappearance 
into Swiss public and private coffers of assets seized by the Nazis from Jews 
and other victims was beneath polite discussion. For half a century, 
Switzerland lived as a nation in denial.

But the country has been set aflame by this modest volume, published last year 
by a petulant professor of sociology at Geneva University, a longtime Member of 
Parliament and a socialist, too left wing for the bankers' tastes yet Swiss 
through and through. Readers of English can now savor his polemic for 
themselves (in a fine translation from the German by John Brownjohn).

The awesome, world-encompassing financial power wielded today by the major 
Swiss banks is founded on wartime profits, Ziegler writes. And, he says, the 
Swiss public, those who benefited directly or indirectly from these profits, 
accept this outcome with pride and an absolutely clear conscience.

Ziegler's fundamental aim is one that no board of auditors would presume to 
undertake: to analyze sociological factors and human behavior, complicities 
and constraints. His is a book about the Swiss people, his own countrymen, a 
nation of guilty innocents and innocent guilty, consumed in a mania for 
self-righteousness, guiltlessness and perpetual purity.

What never fails to fascinate me about Swiss business tycoons, industrial 
magnates and bankers is their combination of great professional ability and 
infinite political naivete, Ziegler declares. We Swiss are 'available,' as 
Bernese political jargon still calls it. We have no political opinions, we 
merely offer our services.

Ziegler is no stranger to the Swiss banking community. His scholarly works over 
three decades have dwelt on capitalist exploitation in the third world. More 
than 20 years ago, he turned his acerbic scrutiny inward, to lift the story of 
his own society out from under the stifling and alienating blanket of fog 
which is produced by the ruling discourse and produces the silence and 
uniformity of consent. This first tentative foray was published in 1976, but 
attracted little notice in or out of Switzerland; an English edition entitled 
Switzerland Exposed found no American publisher.

But in the changed mood of 1997 Ziegler's latest broadside has provoked anguish 
among the Swiss. At best they are astonished; more often they are outraged. 
Geneva television held a three-hour town meeting on the issues raised by 
Ziegler's book; the studio audience jeered its author and applauded his 
critics. The Foreign Minister instructed all our embassies to persuade 
'friendly' journalists to denigrate the book in the foreign press, Ziegler 
writes in an afterword for this American edition.

He also reports on a long-scheduled parliamentary debate about dormant Jewish 
bank accounts that was canceled in September 1996, a few moments before it was 
to start. The presiding officer seems puzzled by my indignation, says 
Ziegler, one of those listed to speak in the debate.

His rosy face registers profound surprise, his response strikes a reproachful 
note: 'You surely don't want us to make an exhibition of ourselves in front of 
all these foreigners?' The press galleries were indeed crowded with American, 
French, British and German correspondents; the Ambassadors from Israel and the 
United States were settled in the diplomatic gallery. They were incredulous as 
word spread of the cancellation.

The issues that have to be aired have mounted far beyond the capacity of any 
single debate or author. Even as Ziegler was writing his book, the British 
Foreign Office put out a hastily assembled review of evidence from its official 
archives. In May 1997 the United States weighed in with a more thorough 
investigation led by Stuart Eizenstat, then an Under Secretary of Commerce; 
disputing Eizenstat's conclusions (which largely coincided with Ziegler's), the 
Swiss Government nonetheless declared the research factual 

BATA SHOES (stems from Argentina, Australia and Canada)

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Jannuzi

Louis P. pointed out that shoe production in SE Asia for western companies
is often done through subcontractors. Bata Shoes has production and retail
worldwide and it tries to sell shoes locally based on the income of the avg.
worker so as to keep the shoes affordable. Everytime I go to Malaysia I pick
up a pair of Bata sandals for use back in Japan (where no one sells Bata).
Interestingly Bata is consistently rated a better company than Nike or
Reebok or Adidas, but it becomes most exploitative when it is producing for
such companies as those.

---
http://www.nikeworkers.org/reebok/compare.html

How does Reebok add up?

1. How does Reebok compare with other MNCs or footwear companies?

Since Reebok contracts out all shoe-making operations, the treatment of
the workers by the contractors is pretty much the same, whether it is Nike,
Reebok, adidas or Fila. It is a model based on the lowest wage/least
rights formula that concentrated almost all shoe production in Indonesia,
China and (later) Vietnam.

Another model -- NOT contracting out -- offers a different result. Bata
(based in Toronto) runs its own factories which produce cheap sneakers for
local markets. Ten years ago, the Bata factory in Jakarta had already had a
union contract for eighteen years and was paying triple the minimum wage.
Ironically, when Bata started to produce expensive shoes for export (for
Reebok and others) around 1993, a two-tier system developed and workers
making expensive shoes for export were treated as contract (temporary)
workers with far inferior conditions and lower wages. Still, a 1999 survey
done with the Urban Community Mission showed that there was less abusive
treatment in the 2 Bata factories, compared to the factories producing
exclusively for export. See full report of interviews with 4,000 Indonesian
workers:

Click here to find out more

There is another mixed model, represented by companies such as U.S.-based
New Balance and Saucony (Hyde Athletic). While both companies produce mostly
in China, a significant amount of production takes place in the U.S. This
means that some sports shoe workers earn more in two hours than Indonesians
can earn in a forty-hour week! (Converse also continued to make some sport
shoes in the U.S., until mid-2001.)

2. How does the cost/profit of a pair of Reeboks break down? Relation labour
costs/publicity?

Though the sports shoe business is highly competitive, profits are quite
good. It must be remembered that profits are taken by the contractor that
makes the shoes, by Reebok and by the retailer. The contractors that produce
for Reebok (mostly Taiwanese and Korean companies) have been very successful
for the past twenty to twenty-five years -- especially since the production
moved to China and Indonesia around 1987. Several years ago, the investment
giant Goldman Sachs bought a huge stake in Yue Yuen (one of these
contractors), giving an indication of profitability. These profits are
derived from a selling cost of around eight dollars (the labor cost being
just about one dollar). Last year, a Wall Street Journal article quoted a
Yue Yuen manager asking NOT to be quoted saying that Yue Yuen's profits were
better than the buyers' (Reebok or Nike) profits.

Next, profits are taken by Reebok. Gross margin before taxes is pretty
standard at 9%. The spending aimed at increasing sales -- the marketing
costs of shoe companies -- has been estimated at about ten percent of final
sales price, by Professor Robert J. Ross at Clark University. This is more
than TEN times what companies such as Wal-Mart spend on marketing and
promotion, Prof. Ross says. In addition, Reebok was severely criticized by
the pension fund managers for California's public employees (Calpers) for
the ridiculously high salary paid to CEO, Paul Fireman during most of the
90s.

The standard practice of retailers such as FootLocker is to mark up the
shoes 100% over what it pays to Reebok. That is, a $50 pair of shoes will
sell for $100. If it does not sell for full retail, it is discounted, of
course. During the sneaker industry's boom years (1992- 97), FootLocker
expanded rapidly, going from 2,000 shops to something like 7,000.

3. Who buys Reeboks, where and why? What alternatives are there to buying
Reeboks?

Currently, Reebok sells about 15% of the sports shoes sold in the world ・
about the same as adidas. Nike has well over 40% of the world-wide market.

Reebok had its greatest success with an aerobics shoe for women in the
late 1980s ・for a short time, the company was ahead of Nike. Since that
time, performance has been pretty dismal. Last year, a Boston Globe
columnist called Fireman the worst CEO in America, in a column which
reviewed the company's performance over the past decade.

Reebok sales are strong in the U.S. and W. Europe; the demographic skews
slightly older than Nike痴. Alternatives for running shoes: the U.S.
magazine, Consumer Reports rated some New Balance and Saucony shoes above
Reebok and 

Argentina, Australia and Canada (and US foreign investment)

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Brown

 Argentina, Australia and Canada (and US foreign investment)
by Bill Rosenberg

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Nice synthesis of these threads, Bill.


Profits aside, two features of FDI which seem to clearly differentiate developed
and developing countries (in the context of the US foreign investment thread,
imperial vs neo-colonies) appear to be the balance between inward and outward
investment stock (biased towards outward for developed countries; overwhelmingly
inward for developing



CB: Might this be termed export of capital   ?




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-19 Thread Bill Burgess

Grant wrote:

  country inward FDI stock/GDPoutward FDI stock/GDP
  Canada   23.9% 26.9%
  Australia   28.117.1
  UK   23.335.9
  France   11.715.9
  Singapore  85.856.1
  Malaysia67.022.7
  Indonesia   73.32.4
  Argentina   13.95.4
  Brazil 17.11.4

Interesting figures. I haven't had time to look at the comparable figures
for other countries. In any case they don't prove a permanent/structural
exclusion from imperial activity. For example, what about Hong Kong
(pre-1997, not that it is yet a homogenous part of China)? The last I heard
there was hardly any manufacturing left in Hong Kong because proprietors had
shifted operations to the mainland. South Africa? Saudi Arabia?

Hong Kong   65.772
Saudi Arabia22.71.3
s. Korea6.1 6.5
Taiwan  7.8 14.7
New Zealand 66.211
Israel  11.16.8
Spain   21.512.5
Austria 11.38.2
Sweden  22.541.3
Belgium 61.750.2
Switzerland 26.569.1

I cited the FDI/GDP ratios against the suggestion that FDI from the likes 
of Malaysia and Indonesia is dissolving the cardinal difference between 
imperialist and imperialized countries. I don't see any real shift in the 
last 75 years or so in this division. Hong Kong has 'moved up' a couple of 
rungs on the product ladder, and a large part of the 'outward' FDI above is 
the labour-intensive factories that were opened nearby in the (rest of) PR 
China. But it lacks other characteristics, e.g. trade/GDP in Hong Kong is 
135% - as Bill R. noted, emphasized, HK and Singapore are entrepots, and 
they are city-economies, which indicates the need to qualify the 
significance of their numbers (Malaysia has the third highest trade/GDP; 
these three are the only countries with annual trade greater than GDP). The 
best recent candidate for the 'imperial' club is probably s. Korea, but, 
hello, this country is divided in half, occupied by US nukes, and could do 
_nothing_ if Japan, Europe and the US stopped imports from s. Korea with a 
stroke of a pen.

The balance of inward-outward FDI in Saudi Arabia tells the same story as 
we know about other realities of foreign-dominated oil producers.

I'd be interested in more rounded characterizations of South Africa, but 
the FDI data is consistent with the 'white'-settler state-now-lesser 
imperialist status of New Zealand, Israel, etc. Bill R. and I have 
discussed the NZ FDI stats before; I still have a hard time accepting the 
66.2% inward rate in NZ as one that provides a realistic comparison to that 
in other countries, but in any case, I think the difference between 
presenting a NZ passport and a Malaysian passport helps clarify the social 
relationships in world imperialism.

Every bourgeoisie has to start somewhere. For example --- and I'm not going
to revisit the complexities and vitriol of the Kenya Debate --- but I just
came across this on the web:
Don't know what you mean with the Kenya stats, but there is _zero_  danger 
of Kenya going imperialist in any serious use of the term.

  Singapore's inward and outward rates are both high, but note that inward 
FDI is still well above outward FDI in this city-state where annual trade 
is also 160%  !!! of GDP.
That trend is not unusual for countries with small populations and highly 
developed economies. What are the comparative figures for Belgium and 
Switzerland?

As you can see, Belgium and Switzerland show high rates of outward FDI, and 
most FDI is to and from Europe - and almost nothing is _from_ the likes of 
Argentina, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia.

Trade/GDP in Austria is 44% and 38% in Switzerland, again, most trade is 
with fellow imperialist countries, not semi-colonial countries. They enjoy 
'free' trade, not the imperialist protectionism and unequal exchange faced 
by Malaysia or Indonesia. The price index for their manufactured goods 
_rose_ from 72 in 1980 to 108 in 1997, while logs from Malaysia dropped 
from 272 to 221, Indonesia's coffee producers faced a coffee index decline 
from  450.4 to 161.2  !!! The index for cotton fell from 284.3 to 162.2 
and for rubber from 197.9 to 94.5 (indexes from World Bank, World 
Development Indicators).

C. Jannuzi wrote:
 I guess my point was that exploiter can easily become the exploited when 
the US involved. As any US citizen should know.

If we can't distinguish between a big thief taking from a smaller thief and 
theft from non-thieves we will never stop thievery.

Bill Burgess





Argentina

2002-04-19 Thread Sabri Oncu

Top Financial News


04/19 19:44
Argentina Closes Banks Indefinitely to Block Deposits (Update4)
By David Plumb


Buenos Aires, April 19 (Bloomberg) -- Argentina closed banks
indefinitely in an effort to block a rising outflow of deposits.

Central Bank Vice President Aldo Pignanelli told the Argentine
Banks Association that banks would remain shut until Congress
approved legislation halting withdrawals, according to a copy of
an internal association memo obtained by Bloomberg News. A
central bank spokeswoman declined to comment beyond confirming
that banks had been closed.

Argentines have withdrawn as much as 350 million pesos ($111
million) a day this week, in part by obtaining court injunctions
against the government's freeze on accounts, economists estimate.
The withdrawals threaten to bring down the financial system, the
government has said.

``Banks have melted down from lack of confidence among the
population,'' said Andrew Cummins, chief investment officer of
Explorador Capital Group, with $45 million under management in
Latin America. ``President Eduardo Duhalde doesn't seem to be
able to articulate a plan that can generate confidence.''

Argentina froze deposits in December in an effort to prevent a
collapse of the banking system as savers rushed to pull funds,
anticipating the government's $95 billion debt default and
currency devaluation.

Several banks have already run out of cash needed to repay
deposits, including Scotiabank Quilmes SA, a unit of Canada's
Bank of Nova Scotia. The central bank late last night closed
Scotiabank Quilmes for 30 days a week after it shut down another
bank.

Total Deposits

Total deposits have dropped 11 percent to 71 billion pesos this
year even as the government imposed withdrawal restrictions, said
Standard  Poor's analyst Gabriel Caracciolo. Financial
institutions have obtained central bank loans to fund a portion
of the withdrawals and overcome the cash shortfall.

``No rational person would entrust his money to the banking
system at this point, just as no-one trusts the peso,'' said
Scott Grannis, chief economist at Western Asset Management Co.,
with helps manage $1.5 billion in emerging market debt at Western
Asset Management Co., with $1.1 billion in emerging market debt.

The bank holiday follows two shut downs earlier this year to
implement a currency devaluation.

Congress expects to receive a bill from Duhalde on Monday that
would convert blocked deposits into government bonds and halt
further withdrawals, said Jorge Matzkin, president of the lower
house's budget committee. Legislators may approve the proposal by
as early as Wednesday, he said.

Great Depression

Franklin D. Roosevelt took a similar step in the U.S. to halt a
banking panic during the Great Depression.

On March 4, 1933, the day after taking the oath of office, he
declared an indefinite banking ``holiday'' until Congress passed
legislation giving him emergency powers over financial
institutions. The bill was passed and the following week the
healthiest banks were allowed to reopen while weaker banks were
shuttered.

The deposit drain has increased pressure on the peso as
Argentines buy dollars with local currency. The peso weakened 3.9
percent to 3.12 per dollar and has lost over two-thirds of its
value this year.

Argentine officials have said they are concerned that printing
more pesos to help banks meet withdrawal demands will lead to a
deeper devaluation and inflation. Argentina has already issued
3.3 billion pesos this year, 94 percent of its yearly target.

Economy Minister Jorge Remes Lenicov and Central Bank President
Mario Blejer arrived in Washington D.C. today for the
International Monetary Fund's spring meeting, where they hope to
convince the fund and U.S. officials the country can meet
conditions for new loans.

Remes Lenicov has scheduled some 19 meetings over three days,
including with U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill and National
Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice today. Remes declined to make
comments to reporters after his meeting with O'Neill.




Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-18 Thread Charles Jannuzi

Louis Proyect writes:

 there are degrees. Japan isn't going to become a neo-colony in the near
 future, but it's clear that US-based companies use their clout to push
for
 opening the Japanese economy to freer flow of capital, etc., so that US
 companies can buy Japanese assets, etc., at advantageous terms.

The US's strategic advantage in this little war so far has been the value of
the equity markets, which places Japan at a distinct disadvantage and makes
US and UK firms, at least until they buy high in a bubble, masters of the
acquisitions universe.


In some ways it's possible to argue the US-Japan relationship is
'neoimperial'. Japan's strategic resource base is tied to US foreign policy,
and Japan in most ways has no independent foreign policy--this is why there
is so little progress with the Koreas, China or even Russia.

Japan's 'defense' is tied into a US-Japan agreement that is more limiting
and extraterritorial than NATO is in Europe (though the US military has
always appreciated things like Mitsubishi avionics).

The new phase (which I correlate with a stalled stock market in the US along
with liberalization of capital movements, the phony war against terror
notwithstanding) , though, is the US push to get inward direct investment
into Japan--especially banks, insurance, finance and real estate (which
reflects the 'strengths of the US economy in these areas--FIRE industries).
This became so obvious when US representatives were proclaiming in public it
was time for US interests to re-capitalize Japan's failed banking system (a
claim which seemed ridiculous to everyone but the grasping Americans, since
it is Japan with all the savings not going anywhere).

However, little has been said about what is regulation for these new forces
(US led and owned private equity, which finds its apotheosis perhaps in
Carlyle Group using CALPERS money). And the need has become glaring with
things like Enron and Andersen and the inherhent conflicts of interests at
the investment banks (over analysis, consultation, the banks' own
investments, and interests of its private equity clients).

 Indeed, inter-imperialist rivalry provoked WWI and WWII. For background on
 the last attempt by US imperialism to push Japan against the wall, see
 Jonathan Marshall's To Have and Have Not: Southeast Asian Raw Materials
 and the Origins of the Pacific War.

Yes, this is an excellent analysis. Many Americans are still in denial over
what led to that disastrous war. Dower's 'War Without Mercy' is an excellent
analysis of the ideologies used to justify the conflict.

Charles Jannuzi





Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-18 Thread Grant Lee

Louis:

 Basically, I
 advocate anti-imperialist slogans in places like Argentina and Venezuela,
 in combination with demands against the local comprador bourgeoisie. The
 most powerful revolutions in this hemisphere over the past 50 years have
 identified with the historical colonial revolution, even though the
 countries were nominally independent: Cuba, Nicaragua, Colombia and El
 Salvador. This means identifying and fighting against all attempts to
 control the country from outside, starting with the US Embassy to the oil
 companies that are bleeding Colombia dry.

We have quite different understandings of what constitutes a powerful
revolution. In short, I think Marx was right in the first place: a
_proletarian_ revolution has a much greater chance of success and longevity
if it takes place (or begins) in a society with an advanced economy.

 BTW, do you know why there has
 never been a coup in the USA? Because there is no US Embassy here.

Well you might be interested to know that Australia probably has among the
highest numbers of US diplomats per capita, at four US govt missions
(Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne, Perth) in a country of 19 million. There is
some evidence to support allegations of CIA involvement in the dismissal of
Gough Whitlam as PM in 1975.

 I am talking about maquiladoras,
 mines and plantations owned by the bourgeoisie of the 3rd world employing
 white Canadians and Australians at sub-minimum wage while goons beat up or
 kill trade union organizers.

There are large companies owned by third world (however you want to define
that) proprietors in both Australia and Canada. I think history shows that
capital (whether national, comprador or global) will do anything necessary
and/or possible, including slavery and murder, wherever it operates. I don't
know about Canada but in Australia capital has been constrained by unusual
historical factors: e.g. long term shortages of skilled/experienced labour,
immigration dominated by an aristocracy of labour, workers familiar with
organisation (i.e. in Britain and Ireland) and who --- thanks to all of
these factors --- were relatively militant. (This also led to the world's
first ever governments by an avowed party of the working class [but as Lenin
himself noted, not really _for_ the working class]: in the Colony of
Queensland in 1899 and at the federal level in 1904.]  Nevertheless, for
many years now union membership has been declining, the deregulation of
labour has increased and so has the rolling back of the welfare system.

 You are describing capitalism as it involves the two major classes in
 society. I am describing imperialism, which involves one nation
subjugating
 another. It combines class and national oppression.

If it hasn't been clear yet, I don't think that the oppression of one
_whole_ society by another _whole_ society exists. There is no real
universal in this case. To me imperialism is (1) a question of degree and
(2) only meaningful when it refers to a particular class or classes from one
national society exploiting labour in another national society. (In fact
Marx _never_ used the word imperialism and did not distinguish between the
logic of capital in metropolitan countries and in their empires, which is
not to say the activities of capital in both were identical. cf Charles
Barone, 1985,  _Marxist_Thought_on_Imperialism:_Survey_and_Critique_) As I
said above, what capital needs to do, it will do, to the greatest possible
degree, to the nearest available workers in the weakest position.

 When a single African country
 begins to play this role, then maybe we can revisit the question.

South Africa has attributes of both the third world and first world.
Including multinational corporations. (If it matters --- and I'm not sure it
does --- I would expect to see an increasing number of black shareholders
and executives within these companies. Perhaps someone else has facts on
this.)

Regards,

Grant.




Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada (Comparative FDI)

2002-04-18 Thread Grant Lee

Bill Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 country inward FDI stock/GDPoutward FDI stock/GDP
 Canada  23.9%   26.9%
 Australia   28.117.1
 UK  23.335.9
 France  11.715.9
 Singapore   85.856.1
 Malaysia67.022.7
 Indonesia   73.32.4
 Argentina   13.95.4
 Brazil  17.11.4

Interesting figures. I haven't had time to look at the comparable figures
for other countries. In any case they don't prove a permanent/structural
exclusion from imperial activity. For example, what about Hong Kong
(pre-1997, not that it is yet a homogenous part of China)? The last I heard
there was hardly any manufacturing left in Hong Kong because proprietors had
shifted operations to the mainland. South Africa? Saudi Arabia?

 Note the
 obvious difference in rates of outward FDI, plus the fact that most FDI by
 Canada, France, etc. is in other imperialist countries while most FDI by
 Indonesia, Argentina, etc. is in fellow semi-colonies.

Every bourgeoisie has to start somewhere. For example --- and I'm not going
to revisit the complexities and vitriol of the Kenya Debate --- but I just
came across this on the web:

Andrea Goldstein and Njuguna S. Ndung'u, OECD Development Centre Technical
Paper No. 171: New Forms Of Co-Operation And Integration In Emerging Africa
Regional Integration Experience, March 2001.

quote: (p. 16) Table 5. Import Sources (1997)*

(From)Kenya Tanzania Uganda

(To)Kenya-0**0**
  Tanzania   10.4 -0
  Uganda 25.90**-

* These are percentages of total imports for the respective country.
**The percentages are very small.
Source:Report of the permanent Tripartite Commission for East African
Co-operation: 1996-98.

Obviously exports are not investment but the above suggests one reason why
(p. 24) ... there are also restrictions on Kenyan investment in Uganda and
Tanzania... (24)

 Singapore's inward
 and outward rates are both high, but note that inward FDI is still  well
 above outward FDI in this city-state where annual trade is also 160%
 !!!  of GDP.

That trend is not unusual for countries with small populations and highly
developed economies. What are the comparative figures for Belgium and
Switzerland?

Regards,

Grant.




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect

Grant Lee wrote:
Louis,

I'm sorry you feel that way. I took your reference to Lenin meant that you
favoured the national front tactics of the early 1920s, which did involve
bourgeois nationalists (in dependent countries).

This only confuses things further. Lenin advocated support for nationalist
movements as a means to an end: communism. This becomes clearer when you
read his article on ultraleftism, which urges support for social democrats
in terms of the way a rope supports a hanging man. 

I suggest nearly all of the world remains under the control of imperialism
in the sense in which you use the word.

This dissolves the concrete into the universal. If imperialism is the
latest stage of capitalism, then of course it exists everywhere. However,
we need to be able to distinguish between exploiter and exploited. For
example, as I understand it, Michael Perelman is working on a book that
will look at ecological imperialism. When Bolivian peasants were being
forced to pay for water, it was a multinational corporation that was doing
the charging. Bolivian corporations do not generally come to places like
the USA and Australia to seize control of natural resources, do they?

In 1900, Australia had a much higher standard of living relative to the rest
of the world --- in fact probably the highest --- when it was officially six
British colonies and dominated by British finance capital. The standard of
living has declined significantly since then. 

I am puzzled. I just posted the UN data that indicated that Australia ranks
SECOND in the world in terms of standard of living indicators. What kind of
drop is this supposed to be then? Argentina ranked among the top nations in
the world in the early 1900s but ranked SEVENTY-FIFTH in 2001. It has
probably dropped lower. That is what we are dealing with, isn't it?

What would the highest stage
of colonialism/imperialism mean if not direct rule for the purposes of
economic exploitation? (Exploitation being inherent in all capitalist
relations of production.)

Lenin spoke in terms of super-profits. In third world countries, you have a
reserve army of the unemployed and repression against trade unionists and
the left. This leads to maquiladoras and all the rest. If Guatemalan
multinationals were coming to Canada in order to pay the natives 3 dollars
a day to sew dresses for K-Mart, we'd be entitled to speak about all
capitalist relations of production being generalized or some such thing.
This does not happen, however.


Louis Proyect
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Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-15 Thread Grant Lee

Louis:

You said:

 But I am trying to address the question of whether Argentina is
 qualitatively different from Great Britain. My purpose in these posts
 is to answer a current within Marxism that asserts that there is no
 difference.

In that case you were complicating matters by referring to other cases (e.g.
Canada and Australia). I simply responded to what I perceived as a critique
of the (very widely held) view that there are significant historical
similarities between the economies of Argentina and Australia.

In regard to the following:

 I am trying to help
 Marxists make elementary distinctions that will help them carry out
 solidarity work, not develop a class analysis of Great Britain or
 Canada.

and

 I am dealing with the question of national oppression

and

 You don't seem to find the category imperialist meaningful in the
 sense that Lenin did.

Not necessarily. I would ask: why would Marxists any longer seek solidarity
with bourgeois nationalists, except in the now rare circumstances where the
formal national question has never been resolved? The world has changed a
great deal since Lenin's lifetime: in particular, there are now very few
cases of formal/legal/military/direct control. Do you not see decolonisation
since 1945 as a major historical event? Isn't there a world of difference
between imperialism in India in 1920 and Argentina in 2002?

 But Australia is not a semicolony in the sense that Argentina is.

Why not?

 Pushing countries around is not the same as imperialism. Because the
 USA is hegemonic, it can influence economic and political affairs
 across the globe. But it has a different kind of relationship to
 Latin American countries than it does to European countries.
Does European include Australia? That will be good news to the miniscule
conservative faction that has floated the idea of EU membership. If your
Europe does include Australia, then there is evidence of more than
hegemonic interference by the US in economic and political affairs here.

 There is a wealth of literature that has explained this, from Baran-Sweezy
to
 Wallerstein. Those are my ideological influences. What are yours?

I agree strongly with the classic formulation that ideology is false
consciousness. If you mean theoretical influences, then my view is that
there is no substitute for Marx's own method (even if I disagree with the
way he used it on some occasions).

 There is also a powerful bourgeoisie that includes people like Rupert
Murdoch.

This is not a good example; News Corporation has been based in New York for
years. Murdoch is also now a US citizen, if that means anything. I'm sure
there are ex-Argentine billionaires as well.

 Let Argentine capitalists off the hook? If you want to have a
 discussion with me, don't put words in my mouth.

I apologise and hope to read a full discussion of their activities.

Regards,

Grant Lee.




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-15 Thread Louis Proyect

On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:29:15 +0800, Grant Lee wrote:
I would ask: why would
Marxists any longer seek solidarity with
bourgeois nationalists, except in the now rare
circumstances where the formal national question
has never been resolved?

In my last reply to you, I urged you not to put words in my mouth. 
Now, once again, you would accuse me of seeking solidarity with 
bourgeois nationalists. Therefore, after replying to you this final 
time, I will ignore your future remarks on this thread. I have not 
accused you of seeking solidarity with imperialist powers, have I?

 The world has changed
a great deal since Lenin's lifetime: in
particular, there are now very few cases of
formal/legal/military/direct control.
Do you not see decolonisation since 1945 as a
major historical event? Isn't there a world of
difference between imperialism in India in 1920
and Argentina in 2002?

No, I do not see decolonization as a major historical event. 
Imperialism deals with class relations, not which flag is flying over 
a country. This is the reason that Hugo Chavez calls his movement 
Bolivarist. He understands that all of Latin America remains under 
the control of imperialism, despite formal independence. 

Why not?

Why is Australia not a semicolony? Because it ranks number 2 in the 
world in terms of Human Development, according to the UN 
(http://www.undp.org/hdr2001/), with a GDP per capita of $24,574. If 
it were a semicolony, these figures would not obtain.

-- 
Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/15/2002

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Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-15 Thread Grant Lee

Louis,

I'm sorry you feel that way. I took your reference to Lenin meant that you
favoured the national front tactics of the early 1920s, which did involve
bourgeois nationalists (in dependent countries).

 Imperialism deals with class relations, not which flag is flying over
 a country.

I agree. But why then would Lenin have bothered to seek ties with bourgeois
independence movements in the European overseas empires? Because he believed
there could be no workers' revolution until formal national questions had
been solved. In nearly all cases they have been, showing both the emptiness
of nationalism and the futility of alliances between marxists and
nationalists.

 This is the reason that Hugo Chavez calls his movement
 Bolivarist. He understands that all of Latin America remains under
 the control of imperialism, despite formal independence.

I suggest nearly all of the world remains under the control of imperialism
in the sense in which you use the word.

 Why is Australia not a semicolony? Because it ranks number 2 in the
 world in terms of Human Development, according to the UN
 (http://www.undp.org/hdr2001/), with a GDP per capita of $24,574. If
 it were a semicolony, these figures would not obtain.
In 1900, Australia had a much higher standard of living relative to the rest
of the world --- in fact probably the highest --- when it was officially six
British colonies and dominated by British finance capital. The standard of
living has declined significantly since then. What would the highest stage
of colonialism/imperialism mean if not direct rule for the purposes of
economic exploitation? (Exploitation being inherent in all capitalist
relations of production.)

Regards,

Grant Lee.




Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-14 Thread Louis Proyect

On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:23:17 +0800, Grant Lee wrote:
Louis:

If it isn't already clear, I find references to
monolithic, single-minded exploitative entities
called Great Britain or the United States to
be untenable generalisations, which ignore the
complexity of real class structures and the
historical agency of indigenous layers of
capital (in particular).

But I am trying to address the question of whether Argentina is 
qualitatively different from Great Britain. My purpose in these posts 
is to answer a current within Marxism that asserts that there is no 
difference. Not surprisingly, these currents flourish in Great 
Britain and were either neutral during the Malvinas war, or damned 
Argentina with faint praise. I am also trying to explain why the 
national question is on the agenda for Argentina, while it would 
not be for Canada, for example. Recently, a founder of Canadian 
Trotskyism named Ross Dowson passed away. He developed the rather 
novel theory late in life that Canada was semicolonial and promoted a 
kind of left-nationalism. He was quite wrong. I am trying to help 
Marxists make elementary distinctions that will help them carry out 
solidarity work, not develop a class analysis of Great Britain or 
Canada. If I were to do so, I would be posting for the next 10 years. 
My time is limited.

No, Whitehall didn't have to send gunboats to
Australia because British state force was there
in large numbers from day one. And they were
also quite willing to use force against their
own subjects.

I am not sure what you are driving at. The USA used state force 
against miners in Colorado and Philippine freedom-fighters in the 
early 1900s. But the USA was qualitatively different from the 
Philippines. I am dealing with the question of national oppression, 
which became the focus of revolutionary socialism during the early 
years of the Comintern:

At the fourth session of the Baku Conference on July 26, 1920, Lenin 
said, First, what is the cardinal idea underlying our theses? It is 
the distinction between oppressed and oppressor NATIONS. He also 
referred to Comrade Quelch of the British Socialist Party who said 
that the rank-and-file British worker would consider it treasonable 
to help the enslaved NATIONS in their uprisings against British 
rule.

These are the sorts of distinctions I am trying to make.

To say that you have never heard anybody refer
to Australia as a victim of imperialism is to
also overgeneralising;
obviously millions of Australians were and are
victims of imperialism, if not necessarily in
the same ways that workers in Nepal or the
Netherlands are victims.

But Australia is not a semicolony in the sense that Argentina is.

British finance capital used its market
dominance to rip off everyone in the 19th
Century, including other layers of British
capital. One kind of rip off was bullying weak
states to pay exorbitant amounts for
infrastructure.

You don't seem to find the category imperialist meaningful in the 
sense that Lenin did.

Yes, they did this to the weak 19th Century
colonial states in Australia. Is that
surprising? US-based capital still does it to
Australian governments.

Pushing countries around is not the same as imperialism. Because the 
USA is hegemonic, it can influence economic and political affairs 
across the globe. But it has a different kind of relationship to 
Latin American countries than it does to European countries. There is 
a wealth of literature that has explained this, from Baran-Sweezy to 
Wallerstein. Those are my ideological influences. What are yours?

Was Australia based on something like the
latifundia? Not in the sense of peasant
agriculture; however in some ways Australia was
arguably more backward prior to 1850 and until
well into the 20th Century in northern
Australia, since the main productive activities
in those times/regions, especially large scale
pastoralism, relied on unfree labour: at first
British convicts, later Aborigines, South East
Asians and Pacific Islanders.

That is only aspect of Australian class society. There is also a 
powerful bourgeoisie that includes people like Rupert Murdoch.

A pertinent metaphor, since the
economies focused on exports of raw materials,
like Argentina, Australia and Canada were
actually the worst affected by the Great
Depression. Eventually a mass radical movement
gave them the understanding that the fault is in
capitalism, not theirs. This is the lesson I am
trying to impart for Argentina. I fully
appreciate that; but why let Argentine
capitalists off the hook?

Let Argentine capitalists off the hook? If you want to have a 
discussion with me, don't put words in my mouth.

-- 
Louis Proyect, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/14/2002

Marxism list: http://www.marxmail.org




Re: Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-14 Thread Ken Hanly

Left nationalism is nothing new in Canada and it certainly not a novel
theory of Ross Dowson. Left nationalism was a strong current in the NDP (New
Democractic  Party) a social democratic party that ruled in BC,
Saskatchewan, Manitoba and even Ontario for a while. It still governs
Manitoba and Saskatchewan.  This is a federal manifesto though of 1969

Cheers Ken Hanly

The Waffle Manifesto
Waffle Resolution 133



Our aim as democratic socialists is to build an independent socialist
Canada. Our Aim as supporters of the New Democratic Party is to make it a
truly socialist party.

The achievement of socialism awaits the building of a mass base of
socialists in factories and offices, on farms and campuses. The development
of socialist consciousness, on which can be built a socialist base, must be
the first priority of the New Democratic Party.

The New Democratic Party must be seen as the parliamentary wing of a
movement dedicated to fundamental social change. It must be radicalized from
within and it must be radicalized from without.

The most urgent issue for Canadians is the very survival of Canada. Anxiety
is pervasive and the goal of greater economic independence receives
widespread support. But economic independence without socialism is a sham,
and neither are meaningful without true participatory democracy.

The major threat to Canadian survival today is American control of the
Canadian economy. The major issue of our times is not national unity but
national survival, and the fundamental threat is external, not internal.

American corporate capitalism is the dominant factor shaping Canadian
society. In Canada American economic control operates through the formidable
medium of the multinational corporation. The Canadian corporate elite has
opted for a junior partnership with these American enterprises. Canada has
been reduced to a resource base and consumer market within the American
empire.

The American empire is the central reality for Canadians. It is an empire
characterized by militarism abroad and racism at home. Canadian resources
and diplomacy have been enlisted in the support of that empire. In the
barbarous war in Vietnam, Canada has supported the United States through its
membership on the International Control Commission and through sales of arms
and strategic resources to the American military-industrial complex.

The American empire is held together through world-wide military alliances
and by giant corporations. Canada's membership in the American alliance
system and the ownership of the Canadian economy by American corporations
precluded Canada's playing an independent role in the world. These bonds
must be cut if corporate capitalism and the social priorities it creates is
to be effectively challenged.

Canadian development is distorted by a corporate capitalist economy.
Corporate investment creates and fosters superfluous individual consumption
at the expense of social needs. Corporate decision making concentrates
investment in a few major urban areas which become increasingly
uninhabitable while the rest of the country sinks into underdevelopment.

The criterion that the most profitable pursuits are the most important ones
causes the neglect of activities whose value cannot be measured by the
standard of profitability. It is not accidental that housing, education,
medical care and public transportation are inadequately provided for by the
present social system.

The problem of regional disparities is rooted in the profit orientation of
capitalism. The social costs of stagnant areas are irrelevant to the
corporations. For Canada the problem is compounded by the reduction of
Canada to the position of an economic colony of the United States. The
foreign capitalist has even less concern for balanced development of the
country than the Canadian capitalist with roots in a particular region.

An independence movement based on substituting Canadian capitalists for
American capitalists, or on public policy to make foreign corporations
behave as if they were Canadian corporations, cannot be our final objective.
There is not now an independent Canadian capitalism and any lingering
pretensions on the part of Canadian businessmen to independence lack
credibility. Without a strong national capitalist class behind them,
Canadian governments, Liberal and Conservative, have functioned in the
interests of international and particularly American capitalism, and have
lacked the will to pursue even a modest strategy of economic independence.

Capitalism must be replaced by socialism, by national planning of investment
and by the public ownership of the means of production in the interests of
the Canadian people as a whole. Canadian nationalism is a relevant force on
which to build to the extent that it is anti-imperialist. On the road to
socialism, such aspirations for independence must be taken into account. For
to pursue independence seriously is to make visible the necessity of
socialism in Canada.


The Collapse of Argentina, part 2: The golden age

2002-04-14 Thread Louis Proyect

Marxists have to maintain a constant vigilance against stereotypical 
thinking, especially when it comes to Latin America. In researching 
the Brenner thesis, I observed a kind of 'Iberiantalist' imagery 
about vainglorious hidalgos in Peru or New Spain who wasted gold and 
silver on luxuries in contrast to thrifty, hardworking British 
colonists. Recent research, however, reveals that the Spanish were 
fully capable of capitalist growth despite not being raised in the 
Protestant faith. D.A. Brading states that there was little to 
distinguish 18th century Mexico City from Boston of the same time. In 
fact, the textile mills of Mexico City, capitalized by mining 
revenues, put Boston to shame.

Ironically, the opposite kind of stereotype seems to have developed 
around Argentina. Instead of seeing it as a semicolony whose 
development has been stunted by imperialism, much of the left seizes 
upon superficial aspects and groups it with Australia, Canada or New 
Zealand. Granted, all these countries have lots of prairies and 
European immigrants, and enjoyed a modicum of prosperity in the 20th 
century, but much more analysis is required. This post will try to 
supply that.

To begin with, we have to acknowledge that at first blush Argentina 
did give the impression of being on the fast-track to capitalist 
success in the early 20th century. Between 1869 and 1929, 
productivity rose at an average of nearly 5 percent, while total 
capital rose at an average of nearly the same rate. Income per capita 
jumped from 2,308 pesos (at constant 1950 prices) in 1900-1904 to 
3,207 pesos in 1925-1929.

The national censuses of 1869, 1895 and 1914 also display impressive 
growth. By 1914, 5.9 million immigrants, of whom 3.2 million became 
permanent residents, joined the 1.9 million who were resident in 
1869. The city of Buenos Aires grew by 786 percent (!) between 1869 
and 1914.

The land under cultivation increased from 1.5 million hectares in 
1872 to 25 million hectares in 1914. The railroad network, albeit a 
tentacle of British control, was 35,800 km. long in 1914. Reflecting 
British confidence in the economy, their investments in Argentina 
increased fro 5 million pounds in 1865 to 365 million in 1913. 
(Corradi, 335)

Yet, this rapid growth would eventually hit the wall for a simple 
reason: the engine propelling the vehicle was based on the latifundia 
agro-export model. Argentina had become the main supplier of beef, 
hides and grain to Great Britain. The profits from such sales were 
not, however, re-invested in industry. Although far less class 
polarized than Cuba or Brazil, whose economies also revolved around 
the plantation or ranch, Argentina's difficulties--even to this 
day--reflect the domination of a class alliance between the landed 
gentry and foreign capitalism. For Argentina to have enjoyed 
long-term prosperity, it would have to institute radical land reform, 
foster the growth of local industry in a protectionist setting and 
develop a balanced internal market for both agrarian and urban goods. 
Needless to say, that is impossible under capitalism.

Michael Johns describes the class relations that determined the 
Argentine economy in the following terms:

In sum, the agrarian rent that anchored Argentina's ruling class, 
the merchant's capital that exported the Pampa's produce and imported 
European commodities, and the finance capital that enabled the elite 
to profit from an erratic economy and sustain a monopoly hold on land 
governed the Argentine economy. These three factors thwarted the 
formation of a more rigorous economic logic by frustrating the 
development of a strong manufacturing sector and, consequently, the 
discipline that a commanding circuit of industrial capital would have 
imparted to the economy as a whole. Argentina, I show, lacked a 
consummate industrial capital that disseminated its logic throughout 
the economy, a logic critical to capitalist development because it 
demands continuous investments of fixed capital, technological 
improvements (and thus increases in labor productivity), an 
accelerated turnover of capital, and greater competitiveness. 
Argentina's turn of the century capitalism was consequently 
parasitic, inefficient, and led by a coalition of rentiers, 
financiers, and merchants who relied on Argentina's truly 
comparative, if fleeting, advantage in the world market. (194)

The consumption/investment habits of the Argentine ruling class was 
typical of those of other Latin American economies dominated by the 
latifundia. Based mostly in Buenos Aires, the bourgeoisie received as 
much as 25 percent of Argentina's GDP through land rent. With this 
revenue, they spent a significant portion on goods manufactured in 
the USA or Europe. As Johns points out, The elite's ardent desire to 
prove its cosmopolitan stature translated into a fetishism of foreign 
goods. No doubt such consumption habits shaped the cultural views of 
a sector of Argentine

RE: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-13 Thread phillp2


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yea, there is a lot of superficial truth in this account, at least as
relative to Canada.  But there is also a lot of  overgeneralization 
and
obfuscation in this account also.  Since I have already published 
several
hundreds of pages and articles on this subject

Where? I'd like to read some of this.

Doug


Since Doug Asked,

Here is the list of my publications in the area of Canadian 
economic development with particular reference to regional impacts 
on class formation and the distribution of the gains of development. 
 Concentration is on the 1860--1920 period though there are a 
couple from an earlier period (on land tenure) and on the later 
period involving the shift from Can-GB economic dependency to 
Can-US dependency.

I have not included those specifically on staples or on labour.

Paul Phillips

Books:

Regional Disparities.  (Toronto: Lorimer, 1978).  (Revised 
edition, 1982).

Labour and Capital in Canada: 16401860, by H.C. Pentland, 
edited and with an   introduction by Paul Phillips.  (Toronto: 
Lorimer, 1981).

Essays in the Historical Political Economy of Canada 
(Winnipeg: Society of Socialist Studies Publications, 2001)

Published Articles and Chapters:

Confederation and the Economy of British Columbia, British 
Columbia and Confederation, ed. by George Shelton.  (Victoria: 
University of Victoria Press, 1967).

The National Policy and the Development of the Western 
Canadian Labour Movement, Prairie Perspectives 2, ed. by A.W. 
Rasporich and H.C. Klassen.  (Toronto: Holt, Rinehart and 
Winston, 1973).

Land Tenure and Development in Upper and Lower Canada, 
Journal of Canadian Studies,May, 1974.

The Mining Frontier in B.C. 18801920, Visual History Series. 
 (National Museums of  Canada and the National Film Board, 1975).

Vernon C. Fowke and the Hinterland Perspective, Canadian 
Journal of Political and Social Theory, Vol. 2, No. 2, 
SpringSummer, 1979.

The National Policy Revisited, Journal of Canadian Studies, 
Autumn, 1979.

The Prairie Urban System, 19111961: Specialization and 
Change, Town and City: Aspects of Western Canadian Urban 
Development, ed. by A. Artibise.  (Regina:  Canadian Plains 
Research Centre, 1980).

From Mobilization to Continentalism: The Canadian Economy 
19391972, (with Stephen Watson), Modern Canada, ed. by G. 
Kealey and M. Cross, CanadianSocial  History Series, Vol. 5. 
(Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1984).

Unequal Exchange, Surplus Value and the 
CommercialIndustrial Question,Explorations in Economic 
History: Essays in Honour of Irene Spry, ed. by Duncan Cameron.  
(Ottawa: University of Ottawa Press, 1985).

Retrospection and Revisionism: Dependency and Class in 
Canadian Political Economy,Journal of Canadian Studies, 
October, 1987.

The Underground Economy: The Mining Frontier to 1920, 
Workers, Capital, and the State in British Columbia, ed. by Rennie 
Warburton and David Coburn (Vancouver: UBC Press, 1988).

Easternising Manitoba: The Changing Economy of the New 
West, London Journal of  Canadian Studies, vol. 5, 1988.

Manitoba in the Agrarian Period: 18701940, The Political 
Economy of Manitoba, ed. by J. Silver and J. Hull (Regina: 
Canadian Plains Research Centre, 1990).


The Canadian Prairies  Once Economic Region or Two, The 
Constitutional Future of the Prairie and Atlantic Regions of Canada, 
ed. by James McCrorie and MarthaMacDonald (Regina: 
Canadian Plains Research Centre, 1992).

PostMortem for Canadian Regional Policy, Acadiensis, 
Summer 1992.

Unpublished Papers:

The 'Great War' and Primitive Accumulation: War Finance and 
Class Formation in Canada 19141923, University of Manitoba 
Economics Department Seminar Series, November 14, 1997.

Canada and the West: Then and Now, Paper to the 
Territorial Grain Growers Association Centenary Symposium, 
Regina, November 245, 2001.









Re: RE: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-13 Thread Michael Perelman

Louis tells us that that the British behaved differently toward Argentina
than Canada.  Why?  Was it because the settlers were ethnically different
in Argentina from those in Canada?  Did Britain have to behave differently
toward Commonwealth countries?

Paul, could you give us a brief outline of the answer?

I also enclosed a quote from very interesting book that I know Lou has
read.

Drayton, Richard. 2000. Nature's Government: Science, Imperial
Britain, and the Improvement of the World (New Haven: Yale
University Press).
104: The American Revolution taught the British that they should
desire colonies with dissimilar climates to their own so that the
colonies with the complements rather than competitors.


--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Re: RE: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-13 Thread phillp2

Michael,

I don't know enough about Argentina to do a proper comparison, 
but a few points on Canada -- since the break with British 
colonialism in Canada's case was initiated by Britain over the 
opposition of the ruling elite in Canada.

1.  The British were losing money on the Canadian colonies since 
the cost of defense for such a few isolated colonies against 
American imperialism was heavy. (e.g. war of 1812-14).

2.  There were 'liberal' revolts (incipient revolutions) against the 
colonial elite by the farmers and small business in 1837 which led 
Britain to appoint a commission to find an answer to the failing 
colonial administration.  A particular problem was Quebec which 
held no allegience to Britain and was opposed by the increasing 
numbers of British (Irish) immigrants and Empire Loyalists from the 
US.  There was also a self-rule movement in the Maritimes.  
Remember, at this time, Canada existed as essentially 8 different 
colonies each under different forms of rule (from the Chartered 
Company rule of the Hudson's Bay Company over the Northwest 
Territories and over Vancouver Island and British Columbia until the 
gold rush) to the various forms of semi-independent colonial 
regimes in the Maritimes and Upper and Lower Canada.

3.  The rise of the free trade (anti-corn law) movement in Britain 
meant the end of colonial preference for Canada's major staple 
industries -- end of timber preferences, end of the corn laws, end of 
the navigation acts -- completely gutted the commercial empire of 
the St. Lawrence, the merchant-capitalist system based on 
exports to Britain, the leading one being timber.  US grain shipped 
through Canada was given preference as Canadian grain and with 
that, Canadian merchants had financed canal and railway systems 
(1840s-1850s) backed by British bondholders.  This all came 
crashing down with the end of the Br. Imperial System.  The 
Canadian colonies were told to go on their own and the British tried 
to negotiate the cheapest deal possible.

4.  The Canadian alternative was to a. join the US; b, negotiate a 
'free trade agreement'; c. amalgamate into an independent country. 
 B. was tried but the US repudiated the treaty as a result of the civil 
war.  A. was rejected by the Canadian population.  C was the final 
result with the formation of Canada with the British North America 
Act of 1867.  Confederation was the compromise solution of 
domestic commercial-financial capital.  To the extent there was 
any industrial capital interest it was tied up with the railways which 
were financed in Britain but run for the benefit of Canadian 
commercial capital.  

The evolution of industrial capital is a much more complicated 
question but really post-dates Canadian 'independence'.  However, 
this is the subject of a major debate of interpretation of Canadian 
development which I won't go into here.

Paul Phillips

Date sent:  Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:31:55 -0700
From:   Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[PEN-L:24882] Re: RE: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Louis tells us that that the British behaved differently toward Argentina
 than Canada.  Why?  Was it because the settlers were ethnically different
 in Argentina from those in Canada?  Did Britain have to behave differently
 toward Commonwealth countries?
 
 Paul, could you give us a brief outline of the answer?
 
 I also enclosed a quote from very interesting book that I know Lou has
 read.
 
 Drayton, Richard. 2000. Nature's Government: Science, Imperial
 Britain, and the Improvement of the World (New Haven: Yale
 University Press).
 104: The American Revolution taught the British that they should
 desire colonies with dissimilar climates to their own so that the
 colonies with the complements rather than competitors.
 
 
 --
 
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 




Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-13 Thread Grant Lee

Louis:

If it isn't already clear, I find references to monolithic, single-minded
exploitative entities called Great Britain or the United States to be
untenable generalisations, which ignore the complexity of real class
structures and the historical agency of indigenous layers of capital (in
particular).

For example, you say Great Britain built railways in Argentina as though
it was
the British state/society and not a few British companies, backed by the
occasional gunboat. (BTW Is the Argentine parliamentarian you cite a
Marxian political economist?)

No, Whitehall didn't have to send gunboats to Australia because British
state force was there in large numbers from day one. And they were also
quite willing to use force against their own
subjects.

To say that you have never heard anybody refer to Australia as a victim of
imperialism is to also overgeneralising; obviously
millions of Australians were and are victims of imperialism, if not
necessarily in the same ways that workers in Nepal or the Netherlands are
victims.

British finance capital used its market dominance to rip off everyone in
the 19th Century, including other layers of British capital. One kind of rip
off was bullying weak states to pay exorbitant amounts for infrastructure.
Yes, they did this to the weak 19th Century colonial states in Australia. Is
that surprising? US-based capital still does it to Australian governments.

Was Australia based on something like the latifundia? Not in the sense of
peasant agriculture; however in some ways Australia was arguably more
backward prior to 1850 and until well into the 20th Century in northern
Australia, since the main productive activities in those times/regions,
especially large scale pastoralism, relied on unfree labour: at first
British convicts,
later Aborigines, South East Asians and Pacific Islanders.

What I wrote to my Argentine friend in consolation was pretty much what I
said to you: it is a failure of the global bourgeoisie, the Argentine
bourgeoisie in particular and the Argentine bourgeois state, not Argentine
wage earners.

During the early years of the Great Depression, unemployed men would blame
themselves for their failure. A pertinent metaphor, since the economies
focused on exports of raw materials, like Argentina, Australia and Canada
were actually the worst affected by the Great Depression. Eventually a mass
radical movement gave them the understanding that the fault is in
capitalism, not theirs. This is the lesson I am trying to impart for
Argentina. I fully appreciate that; but why let Argentine capitalists off
the hook?

Regards,

Grant Lee.








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